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- Multiparty Multimedia Session Control (MMUSIC) Working Group
- Minutes from the 38th IETF
- Memphis, Tennessee
- April 8-9, 1997
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- Chairs
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- Mark Handley, mjh@isi.edu
- Ruth Lang, rlang@sri.com
- Eve Schooler, schooler@cs.caltech.edu
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- The Multiparty Multimedia Session Control Working Group (MMUSIC) met
- for two sessions on April 8th and 9th at the 38th IETF. These notes,
- prepared by Ruth Lang, summarize the presentations given and recount
- issues raised and their resolution, if any, during these
- presentations. An on-line copy of the minutes and the accompanying
- The minutes and slides are available from the MMUSIC archive area
- ftp://ftp.isi.edu/confctrl/minutes in the files ietf.4.97 and
- slides.4.97.(tar, tar.Z}. Individual slide presentations can be
- obtained from the directory slides.4.97.
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- Mark Handley reiterated the WG Last Call placed for the Session
- Description Protocol (SDP) and offered his time in sidebar meetings to
- discuss any open issues. See the slides sdp.ps.
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- Rob Lanphier and Anup Rao discussed the current status and open issues
- of the Real Time Streaming Protocol (RTSP). They reviewed changes made
- since our last meeting in December including the merger of the
- original RTSP (Lanphier/Rao) and RTSP' (Schulzrinne), the maintenance
- of the HTTP orientation of RTSP', and the simplification of the
- protocol's state machine. See the slides rtsp.ps.
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- The results of open issue discussions were as follows:
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- - Use of two HTTP mechanisms (cookies for managing core RTSP server
- state and PEP, an option negotiation method as a replacement for
- the current "Require" field) were discussed. The former was
- discouraged as it provided too broad of a solution (i.e.,
- overkill) for the RTSP server. For the latter, the issue of PEP
- maturity with respect to the timeframe for forwarding RTSP to
- Proposed Draft was questioned. Further deliberation on the this
- topic will occur on the mailing list in light of gaining a better
- knowledge of PEP.
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- - A speed field whose application would imply fluctuating bandwidth
- usage during a session was encouraged as long as appropriate
- warnings about its potential misuse were included.
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- - The use of absolute URIs (cf relative URIs) in the Request-URI
- message to reference content was strongly encouraged.
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- - Further discussion will occur on the mailing list regarding the
- control of multiple streams. It was encouraged, however, that a
- single stream transmitted to n destinations be broken up into n
- separate sessions.
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- - Sending data to a destination that is not the control source was
- oked for client-defined multicast address oked given inclusion of
- appropriate cautionary statement, and was discouraged (for now)
- for client-defined unicast address.
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- A more detailed account of these issues may be found at
- http://www.real.com/prognet/rt/memphis.html.
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- Mark Handley presented the Session Announcement Protocol open issues
- including:
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- - use of a UUID vs IPv4 address for message id + source addr (the
- latter is currently specified). The recent availability of an
- I-D describing UUIDs will seed well-thought discussion on this
- topic on the mailing list.
-
- - expansion of the current set of payload type fields. Although
- this adds flexibility (i.e., being able to convey other than SDP
- payloads), in practice it does not permit the presumption that
- the multicast address allocation scheme implemented by sdr --
- currently, the most widely-used tool for advertising MBone-based
- sessions -- is being used. The more general issue of separating
- and documenting this address allocation mechanism arose.
- Although this work is needed, the downside of addressing it in
- the context of the current SAP is that redesign of the current
- mechanism and SAP protocol would be required, thus slowing-down
- progress of an already widely-used protocol to Experimental
- Standard status.
-
- - elimination of key identifiers for encryption as they serve as
- hints to the bad guys. This move was supported by the group.
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- Mark also presented a proposal to the group to progress the current
- SAP, with its security issues intact, to be an Experimental Standard.
- With the movement of the SAP Security I-D to Proposed Standard, SAP or
- a revision thereof would also then be forwarded to Proposed Standard.
- This was met with agreement with the exception of a plea for
- documentation of the current address allocation mechanism. Mark
- encouraged that this be brought to the attention of the Transport
- Services Area Directors. See the slides sap.ps.
-
- Colin Perkins presented an overview of and open issues for the I-D
- "Specification of Security in SAP Using Public Key Algorithms" aka
- "SAP Security." See the accompanying slides sap_security.ps.
- SAP itself provides authentication hooks; this
- document attempts to define mechanisms that can be put on those hooks.
- Open issues included whether the key id field in the SAP header was
- required: it was felt that this could move into a specific
- authentication block as both PGP and PKCS#7 have key id fields.
- Discussion of the need to define a standard privacy header, and
- whether the simple public key format defined in the document
- (simplified form of PKCS#7) or full PKCS#7 (or both) should be used
- was deferred to discussion on the mailing list.
-
- Joerg Ott presented "Panel-style Conferencing with H.323 based on
- H.332" which described the use of H.332 for loosely coupled
- conferences -- a protocol that can be used to create
- IETF/MBone-interoperable sessions. Use of SDP, SAP, and RTP are keys
- to this interoperability. Open issues presented included: SDP/SAP
- does not permit dynamic changes to conference parameters as H.332
- does, the potential for "floor request" implosions (a Join request on
- the H.332 side which would allow the participant to generate content),
- and the integration of data protocols -- T.120 style vs SRM style
- application protocols -- different applications and application
- protocol styles. Joerg will circulate the H.332 specification to the
- mailing list to encourage further discussion. See the slides
- h332over.{ppt, ps}.
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- Mark Handley presented the changes and open issues related to the
- Session Invitation Protocol (SIP). Changes included: "capabilities"
- method was changed to "options" to align with RTSP, sequence numbers
- were removed from the "path" field, and the "path" field was changed
- to "via" to align with RTSP and HTTP (but the semantics are different
- so this change is questionable). Mark noted that the invitation of an
- RTSP server into a conference needs explanation in the document. Time
- was spent discussing the relationship between SIP and H.323 sessions.
- Advantages of SIP were pointed out and discussions about H.323's
- shortcomings ensued. The general notion of SIP providing a more
- lightweight mechanism and a different model were what justified its
- independent existence but further study and discussion on this is
- needed. It was proposed by Mark that further implementation
- experience be gained to aid the "shakedown" process of this proposal
- (e.g., continued inclusion or exclusion of some HTTP headers which
- have added complexity to the protocol). See the slides sip.ps.
-
- Joerg Ott presented some early results from a MERCI project on the
- "Development of a Gateway for SIP/SCCP and H.323 Interaction." Use of
- SIP alone created a set-up mismatch which necessitated some string
- pulling by the project team and creation of a situation where the
- H.323 conference could be assumed established while the SIP-based side
- was not yet established. Introduction of SCCP to establish a
- "control" conference aided this transition and created a workable
- model. Mark Handley questioned what changes to SIP would make this
- call model more compatible? Discussion will occur on the mailing list
- on this. See the slides merci-gw.{ppt, ps}.
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