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CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_
Reported by Sue Hares/Merit
Minutes of the Network OSI Operations Working Group (NOOP)
Agenda
o RFC 1139 and ISO Echo
o Tools RFC
o Transport MIB
o IP v7
o TUBA - Ross Callon (DEC)
o INTEROP Issues - Richard Collela (NIST)
o Skinny Stack and X windows over OSI - Jim Quigley HP
Notes: At the request of the Chair, these Minutes should be considered
``unapproved''.
RFC 1139
No one thinks the short-term option in RFC 1139 is good. The long-term
option is the only desired. This long-term ping function was taken into
ISO in June of 1991, and is going on PDAM ballot. The IESG needs to do
something with RFC 1139. Since the ISO work is coming a long, and a
little different than the RFC, the RFC will be re-written to match the
ISO text. A copy of this will be forwarded to the Working Group.
Dave Piscitello, Sue Hares and Cathy Wittbrodt will re-write RFC 1139 to
match the ISO text.
Tools RFC
The tools RFC will go through a final revision, and be published in
August as an Internet Draft. Comments are really needed about the
variables selected in the end of the text.
A long discussion ensued here about whether a few variables are enough
or the whole MIB. Mostly, the people thought a few variables would be
enough. Also, a discussion occurred about SNMP over connectionless
transport. Why don't you just use SNMP over IP to manage your node.
The problem some people face is that IP paths and CLNP paths do not go
the same way.
Transport MIB
A discussion was held to see if this work was useful in the NOOP Working
Group. The Group generally agreed that they would be interested in
reviewing the MIB. The following general things were suggested as things
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to monitor: checksum errors, protocol errors, counts on octets sent.
Dave Piscitello will do TCP MIB/Transport MIB comparison. Transport MIB
will be sent to mailing group.
TUBA Presentation
Ross Callon (DEC) gave a presentation of his TUBA/TUCAN document.
Please refer to that document for the full details.
INTEROP Spring '92
Richard Collela (NIST) and Doug Montgomery (NIST) spent a day at
hot-stage on IS-IS, and found a couple of bugs. Due to other problems,
the operational show network used static routing and cisco IGRP-OSI
routing. The OSI connectivity to the rest of the world was stable.
Also, one evening, IS-IS was brought up on all the show floor as a trial
and went reasonably smoothly.
The demos were: NIST routing Lab and Infrastructure. The NIST routing
Lab had 7 vendor implementations if IS-IS with a network monitor showing
the topology. The equipment was configured in 4 L1 areas and connected
to the show network.
The Infrastructure demonstration had 8 sites in US, and 8 sites in
Europe. The network monitor station showing End system connectivity and
status. The tools used on the Infrastructure network monitor were:
clnp ping, clnp trace, and FTAM to remote sites.
The October '92 INTEROP has no spot for an InfraStructure demonstration.
IS-IS may be operational on the show network The Spring '93 INTEROP will
have an OSI Technology Showcase.
Skinny Stack and OSI Presentation
Jim Quigley (HP) gave an excellent presentation of what the OSI
applications need as upper layers. In fact most applications only need
a basic communications. Three types of this basic communication has
been defined by the OSI Implementor's workshop (NIST OIW) by the upper
layer Special Interest Group (ULSIG): Migrant (non-OSI such as TCP), X
windows, and kernel (OSI applications). Prototypes of X windows over
skinny stack over TP-4 have been produced and demonstrated by ULCC and
Dr. Peter Furniss. This code will be released into the public domain.
Watch for x-windows over OSI code announcement.
Attendees
Ed Albrigo ealbrigo@cos.com
William Barns barns@gateway.mitre.org
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Ross Callon callon@bigfut.enet.dec.com
Alan Clegg abc@concert.net
Marc Cochran mjc@vnet.ibm.com
Richard Colella colella@osi.ncsl.nist.gov
John Curran jcurran@bbn.com
Richard desJardins desjardi@boa.gsfc.nasa.gov
Tom Easterday tom@cic.net
Dino Farinacci dino@cisco.com
Stefan Fassbender stf@easi.net
Osten Franberg euaokf@eua.ericsson.se
Joan Goldstein j_goldstein@tnpubs.enet.dec.com
Susan Hares skh@merit.edu
Paulina Knibbe knibbe@cisco.com
Mark Knopper mak@merit.edu
Walter Lazear lazear@gateway.mitre.org
Bill Manning bmanning@rice.edu
J. Scott Marcus smarcus@bbn.com
Dennis Morris morrisd@imo-uvax.disa.mil
Brad Passwaters bjp@sura.net
David Piscitello dave@sabre.bellcore.com
Lars Poulsen lars@cmc.com
James Quigley Jim_Quigley%YD@hp6600.desk.hp.com
David Reiser dsr@codex.prds.cdx.mot.com
April Richstein abm@tycho.ncsc.mil
Erik Sherk sherk@sura.net
William Warner warner@ohio.gov
Luanne Waul luanne@wwtc.timeplex.com
Linda Winkler lwinkler@anl.gov
Steven Winnett swinnett@bbn.com
Cathy Wittbrodt cjw@nersc.gov
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