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- CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_
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- Reported by John Moy/Cascade Communications
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- Minutes of the Open Shortest Path First IGP Working Group (OSPF)
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- ``Extending OSPF to Support Demand Circuits''
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- The Internet-Draft, draft-ietf-ospf-demand-00.txt, was reviewed. John
- Moy gave an overview of the features provided and the mechanisms
- employed. The intent is to enhance OSPF so that it runs efficiently
- over dial-up networks. The mechanisms get rid of all periodic OSPF
- protocol traffic (i.e., Hellos and flooding refreshes). Comments on the
- draft included:
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- o John warned that the last paragraph in Section 2.3 of the
- Internet-Draft is incorrect, and that implementors should skip this
- for now.
-
- o People wanted to document the assumption that either side of the
- circuit can dial. Apparently this is not true for all modems.
-
- o There was a great deal of discussion about the support for
- oversubscribed interfaces (e.g., a single basic rate ISDN channel
- that supports more than two endpoints over time). The draft
- mentions increasing the cost of a connection that cannot be opened
- due to being blocked (i.e., oversubscribed), in hope of getting the
- established links to form a spanning tree. Some people were
- opposed to changing costs in this fashion. Others were in favor.
- The draft will be expanded to describe the functionality in more
- detail.
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- o Also on the subject of oversubscription, some network designs are
- incapable of forming a spanning tree, thereby preventing
- simultaneous access of all destinations. The draft should explain
- this.
-
- o It was proposed that, instead of LSAs that do not age, the endpoint
- of a demand circuit should refresh LSAs (originating from the other
- side of the circuit) by proxy. It was John's contention that this
- is actually more complicated.
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- o Fred Baker offered to add an object to the OSPF MIB that indicates
- whether a particular OSPF interface is a ``demand interface.''
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- Technical Changes to the Base OSPF Specification
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- The representation of point-to-point links will be enhanced to allow the
- point-to-point link to be advertised as a subnet (a la RIP). This change
- had been previously discussed on the OSPF mailing list.
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- The specification already requires a router to reject LSA updates that
- arrive more frequently than interval X (step 5a of Section 13). This
- is to rate-limit neighbors that are not obeying the 5 second limit on
- LSA originations. The current value of X is 5 seconds. It is proposed
- to change X to 1 second. This makes it less likely that a router will
- reject an update that it should not (because of differing clock speeds
- and granularities).
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- Also in flooding (Section 13, Step 8), if a router receives a less
- recent LSA, instead of the current behavior of silently ignoring the
- LSA, it will now flood back its database copy. This helps in two cases
- involving MaxAge LSAs: 1) where they are stuck in a retransmission
- queue on a slow link and 2) where a router is not properly flushing them
- from its database. In both of these cases, if the router responds back
- with the MaxAge LSA, the originator will then pick the next highest
- sequence number and the LSA will be overwritten. (In addition, this
- change is needed for the demand circuit additions).
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- John also proposed to get rid of the PostScript in the next update of
- the OSPF specification, but this was soundly defeated.
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-
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- A New Authentication Mechanism for OSPF Based on MD5
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- Fred Baker presented a new authentication mechanism for OSPF based on
- MD5. This has since been published as an Internet-Draft,
- draft-ietf-ospf-md5-00.txt. Comments on the proposal included:
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- o There was some confusion over the amount of padding required for
- MD5 as specified in RFC 1321.
-
- o It was felt that specifying a non-decreasing sequence number was
- good, both for replay detection and to avoid delaying for
- RouterDeadInterval seconds upon restart. It was suggested that a
- router have some way to ensure a non-decreasing send sequence
- number across restarts (e.g., a time of day clock).
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- o Ran Atkinson said that secure SNMP is probably not the best way to
- do key distribution. He suggested that we simply specify manual
- key distribution and leave key management to the Security Area
- (contact person Steve Bellovin).
-
- o It was noted that since there is a secret per-LAN, you cannot
- really verify who the sender is, just that it is one of your
- trusted neighbors.
-
- o It was requested that, for efficiency reasons, the OSPF packet
- checksum be avoided when MD5 authentication is being used. The MD5
- algorithm already performs a checksum of packet contents.
-
- o Dennis Ferguson was interested in having an inexpensive way to
- indicate that two OSPF routers are in different Autonomous Systems,
- and therefore should not communicate via OSPF. This is generally
- done by giving them different secrets, but it was feared that the
- additional overhead of MD5 might get onerous. A suggestion was to
- allocate space in the ``authentication'' part of the OSPF header
- (not all of which is used when doing MD5) for this purpose.
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-
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- ``Point-to-MultiPoint Interface''
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- Fred then revisited his ``OSPF Point-to-MultiPoint Interface''
- Internet-Draft (draft-ietf-ospf-pmp-if-00.txt). The purpose of this new
- interface type is to simplify configuration on non-mesh-connected Frame
- Relay networks. The draft specifies use in a star topology, but will be
- updated to address a general topology of PVC connections. Dennis
- suggested that the right way to look at the point-to-multipoint
- interface is as a way of profiling the representation of a Frame Relay
- network as multiple point-to-point connections that (1) are always
- numbered, (2) have an associated mask and (3) whose own addresses are
- advertised in LSAs (instead of the neighbors'), with a cost of 0. John
- mentioned that the point-to-multipoint interface does not obsolete NBMAs
- -- NBMAs are still more efficient in full mesh connected networks (e.g.,
- X.25 or Frame Relay with SVCs).
-
- The following comparison was made between the three ways of representing
- a Frame Relay network: a) as one or more NBMAs, b) as multiple
- point-to-point networks and c) using the point-to-multipoint interface.
- This is from the point of view of a router connecting to a Frame Relay
- network through n PVCs. The point-to-point networks can be either
- numbered or unnumbered. The point-to-multipoint interface provides a
- ``non-standard'' subnet model since two routers on the same subnet do
- not have to be directly connected by a PVC.
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- Feature 1-n NBMAs n P-Ps P-MP
- ______________________________________________________________
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- router links (router LSA) 0 n n
- stub links 0 0-n 1
- transit net links 1-n 0 0
- ______________________________________________________________
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- # OSPF ifcs 1-n n 1
- # ifc addresses 1-n 0-n 1
- # OSPF adjacencies 1-n n n
- ______________________________________________________________
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- subnet model 1-n subnets none 1 non-standard
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- Document Disposition
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- The OSPF Working Group has twelve documents currently in RFC or
- Internet-Draft form. The group decided on the disposition of each. In
- general, it was decided that rather than wait for implementation
- experience on several of the new proposals, they would be published as
- Experimental RFCs.
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- o RFC 1583: OSPF specification - Will submit for Full Standard
- status, after folding in the Point-to-point interface, MD5
- authentication and some small technical changes (see above).
- Responsible: John Moy.
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- o RFC 1245: OSPF Analysis - Does not need to be updated.
- Informational RFC.
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- o RFC 1246: OSPF Experience - Does not need to be updated.
- Informational RFC.
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- o RFC 1587: OSPF NSSAs - Currently at Proposed Standard. We desire
- to advance, but need more experience. Network Systems indicated
- that they have an implementation. We need another independent
- implementation, and some deployments. Right now the text does not
- need to be updated.
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- o RFC 1586: Frame Relay Guidelines - Informational RFC. Desire
- reissue since affected by the new Point-to-Multipoint interface.
- Responsible: need volunteer.
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- o RFC 1253: OSPF MIB - Want to advance to Draft Standard. Being
- updated by Fred Baker.
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- o Point-to-multipoint Internet-Draft - Merge with base OSPF
- specification. Responsible: John Moy.
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- o External attributes LSA Internet-Draft - Update and publish as
- Experimental RFC. Responsible: Dennis Ferguson.
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- o Demand circuit support Internet-Draft - Update and publish as
- Experimental RFC. Responsible: John Moy.
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- o MD5 Authentication - Update and merge into base OSPF specification.
- Responsible: Fred Baker and John Moy.
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- o OSPF Database Overflow - Still unwritten. John Moy to write and
- publish as Experimental RFC.
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- o OSPF for IPng - See below.
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- OSPF for IPng
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- Finally, the IPng Working Group requested that we update Paul Francis'
- OSPF for SIPP document, and turn it into an OSPF for IPng specification.
- Fred Baker and Dennis Ferguson volunteered to spearhead this effort.
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