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- Atari 540ST Questions (2 msgs)
- Atari TT (4 msgs)
- COBOL on Atari STe
- German PCB-CADs
- LASER PRINTERS AND THE ST
- Legal action against STrabble game. (2 msgs)
- Mega STe Question (or Problems) (4 msgs)
- MPE2+ or Platon
- My stupidity (2 msgs)
- Rainbow TOS Bombs again
- ST User Virus!
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- Date: 28 May 91 10:25:51 GMT
- From: mcsun!inesc!unl!unl!spa@uunet.uu.net (Salvador Pinto Abreu)
- Subject: Atari 540ST Questions
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- on 28 May 91 05:43:31 GMT,
- mforget@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Michel Forget) said:
-
- [stuff deleted]
-
- >> 3) How good is the mouse system on the unit?
-
- > The mouse isn't bad at all. It has two buttons, and looks fairly good.
- > It is a nice mouse, but there are third party mice available if you don't
- > like it. The Atari mouse is FAR BETTER than the Mac mouse, which I have
- > to use at school. It has a better response and moves faster.
-
- I wonder which Atari mouse you're talking about. All Atari mice I've
- used are the most dreadful rodents I've ever come across, second to
- none, not even the "original" VAXstation-100 mouse (ever seen one of
- these?) feels as bad.
-
- Finding a replacement mouse seems to me one of the first priorities of
- an Atari owner. I recently ordered a Naksha mouse, and await it
- eagerly.
-
- I'm saying this based on the general slowness of the mouse (a mouse
- accelerator is a possible way around this particular problem), the
- unbelievable way it resists being effectively cleaned (the metal
- rollers inside seem to get corroded or something, and will tend to
- stick, for instance my mouse has this tendency to not go left), and
- the number of times you have to press the buttons (and the strength
- you have to apply too) before it considers your gesture as a click.
-
- [stuff deleted]
-
- > << ---------------------------------- >>
- > << ersys!mforget@nro.cs.athabascau.ca >>
- > << mforget@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca >>
- > << Michel Forget >>
- > << ---------------------------------- >>
-
- --
- -- Salvador Pinto Abreu spa@fct.unl.pt
- Universidade Nova de Lisboa, PORTUGAL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 May 91 14:31:01 GMT
- From:
- noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!fauern!faui
- 43.informatik.uni-erlangen.de!csbrod@arizona.edu (Claus Brod)
- Subject: Atari 540ST Questions
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- mforget@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Michel Forget) writes:
-
- >Yes, there is a 720K floppy drive built in. The older systems had 360K
- >floppies, but the newer ones don't. It is fairly fast, but don't expect
- >miracles. It seems faster than the IBM counterparts, though. There are
- >also the usual assortment of Hard Drives available. I haven't seen any
- >CD-Roms yet or Optical Drives yet, though. There are removable Hard
- >Drive cartridge systems and 10 MEG floppies, though.
-
- Atari sells two kind of CD-ROMs. The CDAR504 has a ACSI port, the CDAR505
- is a SCSI device. There is also a MOD from Sony.
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Claus Brod, Am Felsenkeller 2, Things. Take. Time.
- D-8772 Marktheidenfeld, Germany (Piet Hein)
- csbrod@medusa.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
- Claus_Brod@wue.maus.de
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 May 91 15:19:57 GMT
- From:
- noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!agate!linus!philabs!crpmks
- !wizkid!admiral!slammy@arizona.edu (Dave Litchman)
- Subject: Atari TT
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- Ok, I'm sure we've all SEEN the TT, at shows and such, but does anyone
- HAVE one yet?
-
- //
-
- slammy@admiral.UUCP (Dave Litchman)
- The Grid/Magpie and /Waffle BBS
- (HST/V32) 203-661-1279 (PEP/V32) -2873 (V32) -0450 (V29/MNP6) -2967
- Multiplayer Games, Multicolor Chat, Multibbses, Multifun!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 May 91 12:15:45 GMT
- From:
- noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!psuvax1!psuv
- m!dbngmd13!dmswwu1c!onm07@arizona.edu (Julian F. Reschke)
- Subject: Atari TT
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- In article <yF9J32w164w@admiral.UUCP>, slammy@admiral.UUCP (Dave Litchman) says:
- >
- >Ok, I'm sure we've all SEEN the TT, at shows and such, but does anyone
- >HAVE one yet?
- >
- Yes. Since September 1990. Most professional developers in Germany have one.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 May 91 17:10:52 GMT
- From: ogicse!milton!alexd@uunet.uu.net (Alex Danilchik)
- Subject: Atari TT
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- For years I have been waiting for a TT.. but when I finally
- saw one at my local dealer's, I wasn't impressed enough to
- plop down the cash for a TT/8... since the TT/2 is almost
- worthless.
-
- My dealer has had TT's for months and hasn't sold a single one
- yet... though he tells me IB computers has been selling them mail
- order. BTW: my dealer price on the TT/2 sans monitor is $2,100.
- Could this be the problem? Seem like a reasonable price. But..
- to get into 8 megs at an additional $800 or so... i wonder...
-
- Are dealers selling these things?
-
-
- cheers!
- gunnar
- alexd@milton.u.washington.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 May 91 14:27:49 GMT
- From:
- noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!fauern!faui
- 43.informatik.uni-erlangen.de!csbrod@arizona.edu (Claus Brod)
- Subject: Atari TT
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- slammy@admiral.UUCP (Dave Litchman) writes:
-
- >Ok, I'm sure we've all SEEN the TT, at shows and such, but does anyone
- >HAVE one yet?
-
- Yep. Since October 1990.
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Claus Brod, Am Felsenkeller 2, Things. Take. Time.
- D-8772 Marktheidenfeld, Germany (Piet Hein)
- csbrod@medusa.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
- Claus_Brod@wue.maus.de
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 May 91 09:55:14 GMT
- From:
- noao!ncar!hsdndev!wuarchive!psuvax1!psuvm!dbngmd13!dmswwu1c!zv0009@arizona.edu
- Subject: COBOL on Atari STe
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- I need a COBOL - System for the Atari STe .
- Who can tell me, where to get one?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 May 91 15:04:43 GMT
- From: bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!fuug!news.funet.fi!news@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- (Antila Marko)
- Subject: German PCB-CADs
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- Hello there all PCB-designers!
-
- Here is short review of some German PCB-cad packages for Atari ST.
- I evaluated the demo versions the authors of those programs sent me.
-
- The biggest drawback (or advantage to some of you:=) is that all these
- programs are in German and the documents are also in German.
-
- ---
-
- program: Layout 1.3 PD
- author : Uwe Klatt
- price : PD
-
- This is a working public domain PCB-cad package . There
- is output support only for 9-pin printer and it's limited to 2-sided
- boards. But it's very good starting point. It is somewhat slow but it
- has adequate zooming and object handling functions. I liked this one
- (especially the price range is OK :=).
-
- You can't really use accessories with this program (it tends to crash
- then).
-
- ---
-
- program : Connecti_CAD
- author : Uwe Klatt
- price : about DM 50,-
-
- Connecti_CAD is basically expanded version of Layout 1.3. It is
- faster, can output to 24-pin printer (+ other formats) and it has more
- line widths and sizes of soldering dots. Nice "Mac-type" fonts.
-
- ---
-
- program: PCB-Edit
- author : Rosin Software
- price : about DM 200,-
-
- This program is different from all the other programs in the way it
- handles graphic objects. It's not vector oriented (when scaling is
- relatively easy) but raster (or pixel) oriented so it "draws" the whole
- layout to the memory and outputs to screen the visible portion of
- that layout. Because of this concept it is very fast but all the
- zooming function etc are seriously limited.
-
- You can edit objects pixel by pixel and thus generate some weird
- pad-forms and lines. To a certain degree it's only general drawing
- program but this means that you can also draw schematics with this
- package.
-
- ---
-
-
- program: PCB-Layout
- author : Thomas Praefcke
- price : about DM 200,-
-
- This is very similar to Connecti-CAD but the routing options are
- better (program does intelligent routing).
-
- Doesn't support 9-pin printer (but supports 24-pin printer).
-
- Accessories work well with this program.
-
- ---
-
- program : Platon 1.4
- author : VHF-Computer
- price : about DM 300,-
-
- This is the most comprehensive PCB-CAD package of all these reviewed.
- Almost all of its parameters are user-configurable (line widths,
- pad sizes etc). There are plenty of output formats, dot-matrix
- printers, laserprinters and possibly gerber (that may cost extra).
-
- You can also build a component libraries and extract the
- bill-of-materials.
-
- The user interface is somewhat confusing (drop-down + hierachical
- pop-up menus + icons) but there really are plenty of options.
-
- There is also version 2.0 available (it costs about DM 500,-) and
- its evidently enchanced version of the v1.4 :=).
-
- ---
-
-
-
- I could send demos of these programs to atari.arch or some
- similar place provided that
-
- a) they aren't there already
- b) there is enough general interest to the demos
- c) it is totally legal (maybe have to check from the authors)
-
-
- I haven't used these programs for real designing, just gone through
- the menus & options and checked what's available so if there are real
- users of these programs around they may have different opinions and
- views of many things.
-
- Comments & corrections are welcome.
-
-
- Obligatory disclaimer:
- I'm not connected with any of the previously mentioned PCB-CAD:s :=)
-
-
- * Marko Antila (ma62141@tut.fi) ! PhoHome +358-31-183539 *
- * Tampere University of Technology ! PhoWork +358-31-161900 *
- * Signal Processing Lab, P.O.Box 527 ! ====================== *
- * SF-33101 Tampere, Finland ! Vacuum tube rules OK *
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 28 May 91 09:13:14 ADT
- From: Alyre CHIASSON <CHIASSA%UDEM@UNBMVS1.csd.unb.ca>
- Subject: LASER PRINTERS AND THE ST
- To: N <info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu>
-
- I wish to purchase a printer that will give better copy than
- my star NX-2400 when used in combination with CALAMUS. I am
- a bit confused about the speed of printing using laser
- printers other than ATARI'S and the amount of printer memory
- needed. If I was to purchase a HP Laserjet or compatible
- printer how much printer memory would I need to print at
- 360 dpi? I have 4 MEGs of computer memory. How fast would the
- printing be, long waits will really affect my productivity. I
- could just purchase the ATARI'S laser print but it would
- leave will little funding left for the remainder of my project,
- so I am looking for the best printing speed and quality for
- the money. I not too sure about the price for the new Atari
- Laser printer but was told it was around $1,550.00 Canadian.
- I would appreciate any recommendations on this purchase.
- Thanks
- CHIASSAL@udem.bitnet
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 May 91 14:06:45 GMT
- From:
- noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu
- !utgpu!cunews!bnrgate!bigsur!bcars241!brad@arizona.edu (Brad Shapcott)
- Subject: Legal action against STrabble game.
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- In article <1991May27.210009.16927@lsuc.on.ca> jimomura@lsuc.on.ca (Jim Omura)
- writes:
- >In article <4cVH31w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> mforget@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
- (Michel Forget) writes:
- >>As a side note, it has happened in the past that an author will take a
- >>story, change a few superficial details, and then re-release it. On the
- >
- > A nice general statement without specific facts to back it
- >up.
-
- Actually I was just reading a collection of essays by Isaac Asimov in which he
- refers to an incident in which a plagairized story was published in his maga-
- zine (or at least the one that bears his name) without the editor's knowledge.
- This sort of thing does happen quite often (well, compared to the frequency
- with which I would suspect that people would be stupid enough to think they can
- get away with it).
-
- >Look, take this discussion to 'net.legal' or whatever it's
- >called. You're not saying anything that's "special" to the Atari
- >community, so you may as well talk to people who are more likely
- >to be interested in the discussion than those in this group.
-
- I think the legal issues related to software have always been of particular
- interest to the Atari community, from piracy to copyright and so on. Because
- the Atari market is so heavily dependant on shareware, legal decisions regard-
- ing copyright status and licensing do have a special interest for us.
-
- For instance if a licence is held by a large software corporation for a part-
- icular application which has done quite well on other computers, yet the
- corporation has no intention of developing it on the Atari, to what extent
- would a piece of shareware which closely approximates that application be a
- copyright violation? And how close do you have to come before you are
- infringing on a copyright? Reverse engineered? File compatibility? Look-
- and-feel (see Unix Review, Vol. 8, No. 12 on that one)?
-
- I mean if it is obvious to the court that Scrabble is just a variant on
- crosswords, and while entitled to its particular format and graphics the
- company owning this game cannot extend its copyright to EVERY crossword variant
- (regardless of medium), then close duplicates would have legal grounds to
- refute the owning company's claims.
-
- So this particular issue does have a lot of relevance to Atarians, since it is
- a piece of software for their machine being jeopardized, and because these
- alternate distribution systems (shareware, etc) are so important to the Atari
- community. While I haven't generally been interested in playing computer games
- since high school, and so have never even seen STrabble, I AM interested in
- the legal results in this case.
-
- >Jim Omura
-
- brad
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 May 91 07:57:49 GMT
- From: mcsun!ukc!edcastle!hwcs!neil@uunet.uu.net (Neil Forsyth)
- Subject: Legal action against STrabble game.
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- In article <1624@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> warwick@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
- >Even if the Laws are wrong, or the library's actions are legal, they may not
- >receive justice, simply because of a lack of funds.
-
- True. In this case however Spears were justified, although a little heavy
- handed.
-
- >>I'm surprised Dave gets off with Hacman 2.
- >
- >I'm GLAD.
-
- Me too.
-
- >> ... if PD stuff competed really
- >>strongly with commercial products then companies would go out of business.
- >
- >So what? I think if someone is willing to give you something BETTER for
- >FREE, then they shouldn't be punished. The problem is too many people like
- >that poster have the attitude "It would be nice, but the Law doesn't allow
- >it".
-
- It could hurt some companies every bit as much as piracy, which is the illegal
- version of free software. Say a company comes out with a new and very
- innovative game for the ST in the UK. Some other group produce a clone,
- a BETTER clone and start distributing it via the net. Soon the world will have
- the PD version before some have even heard of the commercial one. When the
- commercial version turns up reviewers would be saying "Not as good as the PD
- version" and so no sale. Does that sound extreme? Maybe, but that is what
- worries companies and that is what they are trying to prevent.
-
- If a company lets things slip by then things can get out of hand. Look at
- NEOchrome from Atari. Lots of people got version 0.5 free with their ST way
- back. Despite the documentation clearly stating that it was a preview version
- and the fact that later versions were on sale, PD libraries see it as free.
- I have a letter from Atari saying that it is not.
-
- >Laws can be wrong.
-
- Ain't that the truth! Nuff said.
-
- >Warwick.
- >--
- > _-_|\ warwick@cs.uq.oz.au
- > / * <-- Computer Science Department,
- > \_.-._/ University of Queensland,
- > v Brisbane, AUSTRALIA.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 May 91 11:37:35 GMT
- From:
- math.fu-berlin.de!mailgzrz!opal!fauern!faui43.informatik.uni-erlangen.de!csbrod
- @uunet.uu.net (Claus Brod)
- Subject: Mega STe Question (or Problems)
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- johnj@knor.prl.philips.nl (John Janssen) writes:
-
- >Is the following normal?
-
- >1. When I switch on the computer, it takes very long (>30s)
- > until it boots from hard disk.
-
- Wait ca. 5s after coldboot, then press a key. The Mega will then
- boot immediately.
-
- >2. When there is no floppy disk in the floppy drive
- > the light of that drive stays on forever (after booting).
-
- This is perfectly normal for any ST.
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Claus Brod, Am Felsenkeller 2, Things. Take. Time.
- D-8772 Marktheidenfeld, Germany (Piet Hein)
- csbrod@medusa.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
- Claus_Brod@wue.maus.de
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 May 91 11:40:07 GMT
- From:
- noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia
- .edu!ira.uka.de!fauern!faui43.informatik.uni-erlangen.de!csbrod@arizona.edu
- (Claus Brod)
- Subject: Mega STe Question (or Problems)
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) writes:
-
- >Jerry Pournelle in his 'review' in Byte also commented on this delay. He
- >made it seem like his TT waited for several minutes however.
-
- Which sheds some light on the way he likes to test gadgets. He would only
- have to press any key...
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Claus Brod, Am Felsenkeller 2, Things. Take. Time.
- D-8772 Marktheidenfeld, Germany (Piet Hein)
- csbrod@medusa.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
- Claus_Brod@wue.maus.de
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 May 91 10:43:15 GMT
- From: mcsun!hp4nl!phigate!prle!prles2!knor!johnj@uunet.uu.net (John Janssen)
- Subject: Mega STe Question (or Problems)
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- My question about the boot sequence of the Mega STe
- seems to be not totally clear. So I try to add the
- correct information here and come straight to the point:
-
- 1. My Mega STe waits 30 seconds before it boots from hard disk,
- although I do have an empty (formatted) floppy disk in the
- floppy drive.
-
- 2. The special point of my start-sequence was, that I could
- only decrease the idle time (in front of the booting process)
- by pressing the 'return' key on the correct moment.
-
- This correct moment is immediately after the 3rd switch-on of
- the FD-light after switching on the computer, or immediately
- after the 2nd switch-on of the FD-light incase of a reboot
- by means of the Ctrl-Alt-RightShift-Del key press.
-
- Note that the first flash of the three flashes mentioned above
- is very short, and not noticable if you do not pay attention,
- while the other two flashes (in both re-boot situations)
- are very obvious as they last for a second or so.
-
- So please let me know if these two procedures are correct.
-
- As I stated before, I will be off the net for a few(?) days
- from Friday May 31th onwards, so I probably won't be able
- to read replies on the net, as they sometimes take a few days...
- and my money back guarantee expires in a few days!
-
- So please REPLY BY EMAIL .
- I will summarise
- when I'm back on the net.
-
- --
- John Janssen Check the email address in the header, as this
- J.v.Deventerstr.1 may have been filled in wrong by the system.
- Venlo Holland
- +31 77 513177 Reply to: johnj@idms.prl.philips.nl
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 May 91 14:10:43 GMT
- From: mcsun!corton!laas!ralph@uunet.uu.net (Ralph P. Sobek)
- Subject: Mega STe Question (or Problems)
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- In article <1991May28.113735.22168@informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
- csbrod@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Claus Brod) writes:
-
- | >2. When there is no floppy disk in the floppy drive
- | > the light of that drive stays on forever (after booting).
- |
- | This is perfectly normal for any ST.
-
- As just a reminder, there exists KILLDRV which turns off that darn
- floppy disk light. It was either posted to USENET or is available
- from atari.archive. Both source and binaries should be available:
-
- -rw-r--r-- 1 ralph 3188 Jan 2 11:22 lzh/killdrvb.lzh
- -rw-r--r-- 1 ralph 1618 Jan 2 11:24 lzh/killdrvs.lzh
-
- Cheers,
-
- --
- Ralph P. Sobek Disclaimer: The above ruminations are my own.
- ralph@laas.fr Addresses are ordered by importance.
- ralph@laas.uucp, or ...!uunet!laas!ralph
- If all else fails, try: sobek@eclair.Berkeley.EDU
- ===============================================================================
- Proud owner of a Mega 4 ST. Wishing it was a Mega STe! :-|
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 May 91 10:47:41 GMT
- From: mcsun!hp4nl!ooc.uva.nl!nils@uunet.uu.net (Nils Arbeitstein)
- Subject: MPE2+ or Platon
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- does any of you know, and or have worked with either one of
- these programs, cause i'm now making my pcb's on a pc, but it's kind
- of a bother to drive all the way down to my friends, to make a pcb on his
- computer.
-
- nils.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 May 91 08:22:41 GMT
- From: mcsun!unido!laura!tommy!klute@uunet.uu.net (Rainer Klute)
- Subject: My stupidity
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- In article <16582@helios.TAMU.EDU>, n160ao@tamuts.tamu.edu (Mark Lehmann)
- writes:
- |> I looked at the man pages and
- |> tried the followin command:
- |>
- |> zoo {x}[//] d:\term\download\sozobon1.zoo
- |>
- |> But zoo doesn't understand and just give me the usage line.
-
- Hmm, well, you should not actually type the braces and brackets. They are
- metasymbols meaning you *must* type one of the characters in the braces and
- you *may* take one (or more) from those in brackets. You should try the
- command:
-
- zoo x// d:\term\download\sozobon1.zoo
-
- --
- Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute klute@irb.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
- Univ. Dortmund, IRB klute@unido.uucp, klute@unido.bitnet
- Postfach 500500 |)|/ Tel.: +49 231 755-4663
- D-4600 Dortmund 50 |\|\ Fax : +49 231 755-2386
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 May 91 14:19:55 GMT
- From:
- noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!bu.edu!m2c!jjmhome!hunt@arizona.edu
- (Tad J. Hunt)
- Subject: My stupidity
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- Yes!! Please post the info about the modem control lines!
- Thanks!
- Tad
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- Date: 28 May 91 15:15:16 GMT
- From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!rpi!crdgw1!gecrdvm1!syspmzt@arizona.edu
- Subject: Rainbow TOS Bombs again
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- In article <12020002@hpspdra.spd.HP.COM>, freds@hpspdra.spd.HP.COM (Fred
- Saavedra) says:
- >
- >I have recently installed the new? rainbow TOS in my mega2.
- >
- >*flameon*
- >It seems to run less software than the old version, which
- >is depressing since the my older 1040 which I sold for the Mega
- >ran the largest set of software.
- >
- >Well is it my imagination???
- >
- >Is there a solution to all this bombing?
- >*flame off*
- >
-
- I just bought a 1040 STe and upgraded the memory to 4 meg. I've noticed that
- a lot of pd software others have suggested as great programs do not run or
- bomb my system. Examples so far are CAL 5.0, which will not run, and MELT,
- which melts the screen then bombs the system. Some of the software that I
- wrote with Personal Pascal long ago (I gave up writing for the machine about
- 3 years ago) has some odd reactions on the STe that my old 1040 did not.
-
- I'm also interested in what the architectural differences are between an ST and
- an STe.
-
- Phil Z
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-
- Date: 28 May 91 15:16:28 GMT
- From: mcsun!ukc!stl!crosfield!imt@uunet.uu.net (ian taylor)
- Subject: ST User Virus!
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- (This is probably only of interest to UK netters, although I believe ST User
- magazine is available internationally by mail order)
-
- Has anyone had problems with this months (June) ST User cover disk?
- I think that there is a free virus included on the coverdisk, which mangled
- the directory of two of my disks before I eradicated it. This is the second
- time that ST User has done this, and frankly I am bloody unimpressed. Anyone
- who's got this disk, beware.
-
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