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- Info-Atari16 Digest Wed, 16 Oct 91 Volume 91 : Issue 526
-
- Today's Topics:
- Can't get anything from the digest
- help
- Help, Stalker-BackTALK
- help:HP Deskjet 500 utils
- Installing applications for multiple file types
- Looking for Red Output Transistor
- Lots of things...
- Mac v Atari WP
- NTSC->RGB?
- People dumping machines (was.. Atari Mega 2 system.. for sale)
- Problem with user-defined objects and the AES
- Railroad Tycoon experiences
- Ship program that works with NEODESK
- SPECTRE GCR and mac.archive-getting started
- STacy specific information
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- Date: Wed, 16 Oct 91 10:05:35 MST
- From: "Mark F. Rhyner" <mrhyner@huachuca-emh2.army.mil>
- Subject: Can't get anything from the digest
- To: info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- If anyone had some answers to my question concerning which transistor(s) drive
- the red output in a 520STfm ca. 1990 could they email to this address:
- mrhyner@huachuca-emh2.army.mil or mrhyner@huachuca-emh8.army.mil as I don't
- seem to be able to get the Digest any longer.
-
- SOme kind of hardware and software problem.
-
- Probably has something to do with low bid. ;-)
-
- Mark
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 9 Oct 91 17:21:25 EST
- From: "Thomas Neser" <zeus@zeus3.sozialwissenschaften.uni-mannheim.de>
- Subject: help
- To: info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- help
-
- ***************************************************************
- * Thomas Neser, Zeus im MZES, Universitaet Mannheim, *
- * Steubenstr. 46, D-6800 Mannheim, Germany *
- *-------------------------------------------------------------*
- * bitnet: fs91@dmarum8 *
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- * tel: +49-621-292-8473 *
- ***************************************************************
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Oct 91 10:10:01 +0100
- From: pinstall%bbrbfu60.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
- Subject: Help, Stalker-BackTALK
- To: info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- Hello Stalker fan,
-
- I have got my Stalker V 3.00 last week. The first BackTALK script I write
- give me problems. I have write a small script to prove it, but
- I don't know if other configuration (computer, TOS, language)
- it have the same behaviour.
-
- When I run the enclosed script compiled in STalker the "time_out" (cf
- pg 106) doesn't seems to be effective. The script doesn't wait for the
- prompt. That doesn't seems to be normal to me.
-
- This is very, very annoying.
-
- // Modified script from p 21 Advanced BackTALK Tutorial, Getting started.
- function main()
- wait_for("Name?",0);
- printf("myname\r\n");
- wait_for("word:",0);
- printf("myword\r\n");
- endfunction
-
- Patrick, INSTALLE
-
- > V.U.B BITNET :pinstall@BBRBFU60.BITNET<
- > Free University Brussels FAX : 32 2 65099 99 <
- > Plantengenetica Voice : 32 2 650 99 45 <
- > 69, rue des Chevaux <
- > B-1640 Rhode St Genese (BELGIUM, EC) <
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 08 Oct 91 18:51
- From: "heinZ Zerbes"
- <UJ12%DKAUNI2.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
- Subject: help:HP Deskjet 500 utils
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- A couple of days ago, I bought an HP Deskjet 500. But there came no
- software for my ST with it. Could anyone out there post some hints,
- where I can find the necessary (and useful) programs for this printer ?
-
- Many thanks in advance.........................................heinZ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 07 Oct 91 13:52:33 CDT
- From: Mike Dorman <MDORMAN1@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
- Subject: Installing applications for multiple file types
- To: Atari List <Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu>
-
- You can install applications for multiple filetypes, just by editing the
- desktop.inf file. Install for one application, and then save the desktop,
- and then use any ASCII editor to edit the file. Find the line that
- referenced the application that you just installed (the "@"'s and such are
- *very* important), copy it, and change the last bit, the "*.TXT" line, for
- instance, to whatever other doc type you want installed, say, "*.DOC".
-
- Save the file and reboot.
-
- There is a picture viewer out ther (VIEW, I think is the name) that has an
- installation facility that does this for you, for all the file types it
- recognizes. Pretty nifty.
-
- Mike.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 9 Oct 91 22:50:20 MST
- From: "Mark F. Rhyner" <mrhyner@huachuca-emh2.army.mil>
- Subject: Looking for Red Output Transistor
- To: info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- I'm still having problems with my 520STFm. I upgraded it quite awhile ago with
- a JRI 4 meg board. The 4 megs are great and work fine. But after installing
- the board, I found I had lost all reds! When I move the red slider in the
- control panel there is no change in the screen. I was using a Mitsubishi TV
- for color along with a mono Atari monitor. I'm now using a NEC3D for both color
- and mono so I know it's not the RF modulator.
-
- I talked to John Russel and he thought it most likely that the red output
- transistor was somehow munged up. They all look ok when I take the board that
- plugs
- into the video shifter out.
-
- I have a schematic that came with my developer's kit but it is ancient history.
- I'd like to replace it just to make sure. Anyone got a clue as to which is
- which?
-
- Thanks
-
- Mark
-
- mrhyner@huachuca-emh2.army.mil
- DSN:879-7440
- COMM: (602) 538-7440
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 09 Oct 91 17:03:32 CDT
- From: Mike Dorman <MDORMAN1@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
- Subject: Lots of things...
- To: Atari List <INFO-ATARI16@naucse.cse.nau.edu>
-
- I've got a list of questions for people who are familiar with GNU C and
- Emacs, and the MiNT-aware port of BASH:
-
- First--Is there any way I can actually set the environment variable
- GCC-EXEC-PREFIX under BASH? I have tried a zillion different ways of
- quoting the variable, but it just can't seem to be convinced that that is
- a valid variable, and as a result, I can't seem to use GCC. Is there any
- workaround for this?
-
- Next--Is there any documentation for Emacs' elisp? Using the version found
- in the file ++jrbemacs.zoo on atari.archive, I consistently get a report that
- there's a problem with one of the init files. Since I have no idea what I'm
- looking for, I have no way to find it.
-
- Also--is there any easy way to rebind keys for Emacs? Switching around the
- backspace and delete keys and such is starting to annoy.
-
- And more--is there any particular reason that the binaries have to be built
- with the lib sources included with the program? That seems wierd to me, since
- we're trying to move to one standard library (witness the gradual mergeing of
- the MiNT and GNU libraries).
-
- Has anyone done a port of 18.5.7? Is it, by chance, a bit more TOS friendly?
-
- Is the port of GNU make 3.60 any sort of official release? It states in the
- FSF documentation that it's a beta--what is the status of make 3.6?
-
- Is there any easy way to go from .texinfo files to a line printer? I don't
- need all the neat stuff that a full-up TeX station would give me, and I don't
- have a laser printer, so I don't think it's a good idea to try, but I would
- like to use .texinfo stuff, and get that output to a line printer.
-
- Thanks.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 9 Oct 91 15:52:25 BST
- From: "D." Summerbell
- <d-summer@national-institute-for-medical-research.mrc.ac.uk>
- Subject: Mac v Atari WP
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- David Butler replies to David Halliday:
-
- DH
- >>I am thinking of buying a new ST Wordprocessor (I currently use First
- >>Word) what do you recommend bearing in mind that I would like it to be
- >>MS Word compatible.
-
- DB
- > As far as I know there is no ST wordprocessor that is compatible with and Mac
- >word processor except through text files. Why get an ST wordprocessor if you
- >have the GCR? Wordprocessing is one area in which the Mac really shines, beats
- >the ST software hands-down. Try Write Now or Nisus, Write Now is faster and
- >less complex, but Nisus has features to blow your mind (far better than MSWord,
- >and it does write MSWord files). Really, these are as far above ST word
- >processors as an ST is above a calculator (a cheap one anyway).
-
- I might have agreed with David up until a few weeeks ago. I have Spectre but
- still tended to use First Word Plus in ST mode because of the superior perfor-
- mance of TOS (using Neodesk as a user interface). Nevertheless I still coveted
- the multiple fonts and proportional spacing of the Mac. I bought several "se-
- cond generation" WP packages as they became available but was always disappoin-
- ted. Recently a colleague bought Write-On (Compo Software). I borrowed it and
- liked it and have just bought its big brother That's Write. I much prefer it to
- the Mac software that I have tried. (My wife is a Mac User). I haven't encoun-
- tered Nisus so I can't fairly compare it with TW. However I strongly recommend
- the latter. Write-On competes happily with the simpler Mac packages and That's
- Write has the bells and whistles.
-
- WO retails at about 45.00 Sterling
- TW retails at about 80.00 Sterling
- Write-Now retails at about 120.00 Sterling
- Nisus I couldn't find an ad.
-
- Anyone interested I have a (growing) summary list of ST WP software.
-
-
- Dr.D.Summerbell INTERNET: d-summer@nimr.mrc.ac.uk
- Limb Development Group or: d-summer%nimr.mrc.ac.uk@earn-relay
- Nat. Inst. Medical Research DARPA:d-summerbell%nimr.mrc@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk
- The Ridgeway, Mill Hill JANET: d-summer@uk.ac.mrc.nimr
- LONDON NW7 1AA Tel: 081-959 3666 ext2366
- U.K.
-
- The short Internet address does not always work from the US
- Indirection via earn-relay is more reliable
- nimr is an unofficial alibi, some nodes do not have it in their YP.
- Real address is: @national-institute-for-medical-research.mrc.ac.uk
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 8 Oct 91 08:28:47 -0400
- From: marks@AIVAX.RL.AF.MIL (David Marks)
- Subject: NTSC->RGB?
- To: info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- [Note: I am not [yet] an INFO-ATARI16 reader, so apologies if this just came up.
- Also, of course, please respond directly to me e-mail address. ]
-
- Has anyone seen/used an NTSC->RGB converter that works with the Atari
- 1224 Color Monitor? I don't need a genlock capability to position the
- video image on the screen in conjunction with a computer generated RGB image,
- I just want to be able to use the Atari Color Monitor with a VCR to watch
- some class videotapes and let my wife & son watch the household TV.
-
- Dave Marks
- Rome Laboratory
- marks@aivax.rl.af.mil
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 3 Oct 91 23:24:59 GMT
- From:
- noao!asuvax!ukma!widener!iggy.GW.Vitalink.COM!pacbell.com!att!linac!uwm.edu!cs.
- utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!think.com!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!bunyi
- p.cc.uq.oz.au!uqcspe! (Warwick Allison)
- Subject: People dumping machines (was.. Atari Mega 2 system.. for sale)
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- In <1991Oct2.143825.26339@philce.ce.philips.nl> meulenbr@nlvs31.ce.philips.nl
- (Frans Meulenbroeks) writes:
-
- >TT ram is faster than the (regular) ST ram. This is due to the
- >fact that the processor is slowed down by the video hardware when
- >accessing ST ram. The video can only live in ST ram, and every 250 ns
- >or so the video accesses the ST ram.
-
- This is true? Then if a program Mallocs memory for use as a displayable
- screen, it will have to malloc from ST ram, right? How does one ensure
- this?
-
- Worried,
- Warwick.
- --
- _-_|\ warwick@cs.uq.oz.au
- / * <-- Computer Science Department,
- \_.-._/ University of Queensland,
- v Brisbane, AUSTRALIA.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1991 04:57:39 PDT
- From: sgoldthorpe.wgc-e@rx.xerox.com
- Subject: Problem with user-defined objects and the AES
- To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- This is a question for all you GEM experts out there...
-
- I'm having a problem with user-defined objects in GEM. I have written
- a small utility, that when given an IBOX's ID, will patch the object,
- so that it 'turns' it into a user-defined object. It does this simply
- by patching the ob_spec of the object to the address of my USERBLK,
- containing my object handler and changing the object type to G_USERDEF
- (or whatever your gem headers call it).
-
- Logically it seems fine, but when I come to display the 'fixed' tree
- with objc_draw, the AES appears to run out of stack space (my object
- handler isn't even called!). I am missing something? - Code available
- on request.
-
- Thanks,
- -Steve Goldthorpe
- P.S. Sorry if this appears twice, but the original post seems to have
- bounced (so this is a resend to a different address).
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-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 7 Oct 91 01:49:34 PDT
- From: boyce@sifvs3.SINet.SLB.COM (David Boyce)
- Subject: Railroad Tycoon experiences
- To: info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
-
- Yup, I've had problems too....
-
- First thing is that the installation to hard disk doesn't work properly.
- I had to manually copy the files over to a \railroad directory, overwriting
- files as necessary.
-
- Second problem is the mouse. The game can't be played with it, since it
- crashes if the mouse touches the bottom of the screen! (Heavy bummer...)
- I've tried all sorts of things, like leaving the mouse alone till I've
- got past the protection, but nothing helps. I'm having to use the program
- with keyboard only which isn't too bad, but it makes moving around
- pretty tedious.....
-
- I haven't seen any other real problems with the game.
-
- I've got a 4Mb STFM, with UK Rainbow TOS.
-
- - Dave
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 07 Oct 91 15:50:37 ADT
- From: Alyre CHIASSON <CHIASSA%UDEM@UNBMVS1.csd.unb.ca>
- Subject: Ship program that works with NEODESK
- To: N <info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu>
-
- I have just installed NEODESK-really great. However, the
- ship program I have to park my MEGAFILE 30 results in NEODESK
- trying to reload. Is there a program that will park the heads
- and halt excution of all other program and operate under
- NEODESK.
- Thanks
- CHIASSA@UMONCTON.CA
- .
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 09 Oct 91 10:53:39 ADT
- From: Alyre CHIASSON <CHIASSA%UDEM@UNBMVS1.csd.unb.ca>
- Subject: SPECTRE GCR and mac.archive-getting started
- To: N <info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu>
-
- Having just obtained Spectre GCR I though I would have a look
- at the mac.archive at umich. A help command got me all
- the index files but it is not evident how to obtain the
- initial file to uuencode the files(BinHEX 4.0). Everthing in
- the index file already seems to be in hdx form. Secondly,
- what is the compression used "stuffit"?
- Thanks
- CHIASSA@UMONCTON.CA
- .
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 10 Oct 91 13:37
- From: "Thomas Koenig"
- <UI0T%DKAUNI2.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
- Subject: STacy specific information
- To: Info-Atari16 Discussion <info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu>
-
- A friend of mine owns a STacy, and he would dearly like to
- have some information about it.
-
- What he'd like to do, ultimately, is to write an accessory
- to
-
- 1) dim, switch on and off the background lighting for the screen
-
- 2) switch the hard disk drive off (reversible) when he wants to
-
- For this, he also needs to know how to
-
- 3) establish wether or not this program is running on a STacy
-
- How can this be done?
-
- Any help appreciated.
- --
- Thomas Koenig
- EARN/BITNET : UI0T@DKAUNI2.BITNET
- INTERNET : UI0T@IBM3090.RZ.UNI-KARLSRUHE.DE
- X.400 : S=UI0T;OU=IBM3090;OU=RZ;P=UNI-KARLSRUHE;A=DBP;C=DE
-
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