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Subject: TELECOM Digest V14 #301
TELECOM Digest Tue, 28 Jun 94 04:35:00 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 301
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
Bidding War For - Western Union ?! (James H. Haynes)
MCI Used NEXTSTEP For "Friends and Family" Campaign (Robert La Ferla)
AT&T, Paris and Freedom (Jean-Bernard Condat)
NYNEX 1+10D; EasyReach 700 International (Jeffrey W. McKeough)
Need New ESN For my Cellphone (Douglas Reuben)
Trunk Switch Bypass Device Needed (Leroy Casterline)
Africa Email via X.25? (Ed Moore)
TELECOM 95 Space Available (Jerry Skene)
Industry Numbering Committee to Meet (Greg Monti)
International Calls to Taiwan; Sometimes System Says "Not Valid" (R. Casey)
Looking For Cell Phone Parts (gleason@mwk.com)
How to Put '*' in Phone Number (Modem) (Henry Alan Segal)
Washington Post Article (Stephen Goodman)
(Very) Sorry Wrong (800) Number (Dave Thompson)
Re: O.J. Simpson Case (David G. Cantor)
Re: O.J. Simpson Case (TELECOM Digest Editor)
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From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (James H. Haynes)
Subject: Bidding War For - Western Union ?!
Date: 28 Jun 1994 05:20:22 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Item in the Sunday paper says two companies, First Data Corp. and
Forstmann Little & Co. are bidding for Western Union. First Data is
described as an information-and-transaction-processing company that
transfers money. Forstmann Little & Co. is a leveraged buyout firm.
First Data bid $896 million, Forstmann Little bid $951 million, and
First Data added $65 million to its bid. A bankruptcy court judge
ruled friday that the company will be auctioned in September. (Get
your bid in by Sept 2.)
"Millions of people in the United States do not have bank accounts.
Western Union, now 144 years old, wires money out of town for them and
sells them money orders." Western Union Financial controls estimated
90% of the money-transfer business, took in about $400 million last
year. (I guess that means the retail money-transfer business. First
Data transfers money between bank accounts.)
"Western Union created New Valley in 1991 and transferred all debt to
it. [Some of us prefer to call it New Abyss.] New Valley, based in
Paramus, N.J. went into Chapter 11 bankruptcy proceedings in 1993." -
haynes@cats.ucsc.edu
------------------------------
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: MCI Used NEXTSTEP For "Friends and Family" Campaign
Reply-To: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Organization: Hot Technologies
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 04:46:34 GMT
I just got back from NEXTSTEP Expo where Steve Jobs mentioned in his
keynote that MCI was able to steal tens of millions of customers away
from it's competitors using a custom billing application developed
under NEXTSTEP. He said that the object oriented NEXTSTEP gave MCI an
18 month jump on it's rivals. He also demonstrated an application
(similar if not the MCI one) and I must say it was quite impressive.
A marketing manager could send electronic mail with a "business
object" (in this case a new marketing campaign) and the sales staff
could simply drag it out of the mail application and drop it into the
marketing application - the application would instantly have the
"smarts" about "Friends and Family" or whatever the new campaign was.
Incredible stuff. He said that "Enterprise Objects" is the most
important innovation that NeXT has produced since they designed
"NEXTSTEP" itself.
Robert La Ferla Hot Technologies
Registered NEXTSTEP Developer and Consultant
Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
------------------------------
From: JeanBernard_Condat@Email.FranceNet.FR (JeanBernard Condat)
Organization: FranceNet
Reply-To: JeanBernard_Condat@Email.FranceNet.FR
Subject: AT&T, Paris and Freedom
Date: 28 Jun 1994 07:22:36 GMT
PARIS, France - June 27, 1994 18:30-22:00. AT&T salutes the one thing
that brings people together better than we do.
Freedom.
Yesterday, I was invited to look at 'a sound sculpture for the Arc de
Triomphe by Bill Fontana' in Paris.
" This sound sculpture sponsored by the French Ministry of Culture, the
City of Paris and AT&T includes three installations relating to the
visual and aural experience of the Arc de Triomphe in the pedestrian
access tunnels, at ground level, and on the observation level. In the
pedestrian tunnels, the sound of the sea creates an acoustical passage
for the traffic island as a sound island. On ground level, the same
sound serves as a white sound to transform and hide the traffic noise
occuring in the immense traffic circle. On the observation level where
visitors have a panoramic view of Paris, an installation explores the
idea of hearing as far as one can see, acoustically viewing Paris.
" The Arc de Triomphe is part of one of the most dramatic visual perspective
in Paris, being in the axis defined by the Pyramide at the Louvre and
La Defense. Visitors standing on the upper observation level have
dramatic panoramic views of Paris."
--------------------
I invite all the reader of this message to appreciate during the next
holidays in France, the Arc de Triomphe of Place de l'Etoile and to
drink a beer on the Champs-Elysees without the poor Bill Fontana'
sculpture and the English-written AT&T Direct Services publicity.
Phone me directly with your "AT&T Calling Card" to +331 47874083, ok?
Jean-Bernard Condat
Chaos Computer Club France
47 rue des Rosiers, 93400 St-Ouen, France
Phone: +331 47874083, Fax: +331 49450129
Email: JeanBernard_Condat@email.FranceNet.FR
------------------------------
From: jwm@student.umass.edu (Jeffrey W. McKeough)
Subject: NYNEX 1+10D; EasyReach 700 International
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 03:36:02 -0400
Last Friday seems to have marked the end of the permissive dialing
period in the 413 NPA. Since then, all intraLATA calls outside my
local calling area must be dialed 1-413-NXX-XXXX. This includes calls
that were formerly seven digits, which I hadn't expected from what I
had read. One nice side-effect of this is that seven-digit calls are
now entirely local (and included in my basic service fee), while all
toll calls are now dialed via 1+. Having used a similar setup at
UMass/Amherst, where local calls were 9 + 7D, and toll calls required
use of a security code, I grew to like the reminder that the call I
was dialing was in fact a toll call.
Monday marked the beginning of International calls via AT&T EasyReach.
When I entered the forwarding menu, I was told to enter AC + seven
digits for a domestic number, and 011 + Number (it didn't specify
Country Code, City Code, etc.) for international numbers. The help
menu indicated that if I forwarded to an AT&T World Connect Country,
all US and World Connect calls would be forwarded. If I forwarded to
a non-World Connect country, only US calls would be forwarded.
Jeffrey W. McKeough jwm@student.umass.edu
------------------------------
From: dreuben@netcom.com (Cid Technologies)
Subject: Need New ESN For my Cellphone
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 00:59:49 PDT
My old Audiovox CMT-450 is in the shop - after five years it stopped
working and shows "NO SVC" even in excellent coverage areas. Audiovox
is going to tell me how much it will cost to fix (I can't wait till
they see the Novatel ESN in there and ask me why I have a 142/Novatel
ESN instead of a 138/Audiovox one! ;) )
So I may need to get a new phone. However, in the past, I've sent my
phones out to get them cloned, and although generally reliable, it
takes a week and I have to lay out like $200 *each* for the process,
so that I can have a variety of phones for differing situations, all
with the same number(s). (But never on at the same time, of course ...)
Is there any shop or service provider out there who will burn a chip
for me if I give them the proper ESN? I can easily put the new chip in
the phone myself, and thus save on the cost and time of not having my
phone.
I'd like to get all my phones onto one ESN, and if I do get a new
phone I don't want to send all three (or four, depending on how much
Audiovox wants to fix the old CMT-450) phones away and pay $800 to do
the ESN changes.
Obviously I'd like a reputable place, and I'd be glad to substantiate
that I am the TRUE owner of the phone, ie, provide sales receipts,
etc., so that no one suspects that I am trying to commit cell fraud by
cloning other people's phones. (Although this would be a really dumb
and slow way to do it, and most cell fraud criminals have phones which
they can just put whatever ESN they want into ... Hey, actually, I'd
like a phone like that, but for my own legitimate purposes...)
So if anyone knows of a place where I can call in an ESN and a
manufacturer's model, send some sales receipts or something, and have
them mail me a new chip, PLEASE save me $800 and let me know! :)
Thanks in advance,
Doug CID Technologies (203) 499 - 5221
------------------------------
From: casterli@csn.org (Leroy Casterline)
Subject: Trunk Switch Bypass Device Needed
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 21:06:54 -0600
Organization: Cahill Casterline Limited
Reply-To: casterli@csn.org
Hello once again, telecom experts!
I am looking for a device that I can use on a multi-line PC-based
switch to bypass the switch in the event of a malfunction. The PC
goes between the CO and the PBX on several trunks, so bypass in the
event of failure is important.
I'd like the bypass to operate in a 'watchdog' mode, where I send it
confirmation every few seconds that I am alive and working, presumably
via an RS-232 port. In the event that I stopped 'tickling' the port,
it would switch the CO line directly to the PBX, bypassing my PC-based
system.
Ideally, the bypass device would be intelligent enough to switch each
line individually, and could be set to NOT switch a line while it
carried loop current, waiting for loop current to cease before
switching that particular line. Lines which carried no loop current
would be switched immediately. I need to handle between 12 and 48
lines (on each side of the PC box) per installation.
What I have now:
-------------------
| |
CO ---------| PC-based Switch |--------- PBX
| |
-------------------
What I'd like:
-------------------
| |
CO ---------|-| - - - - - - |-|--------- PBX
--| | Bypass | |
| -------------------
RS-232 | | |
Control | | |
Line | -------------------
| | |
--| PC-based Switch |
| |
-------------------
Thank you for your kind assistance.
Leroy Casterline Cahill Casterline Limited
303/484-2212 casterli@csn.org
------------------------------
From: edmoore@vcd.hp.com (Ed Moore)
Subject: Africa Email via X.25?
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 03:32:17 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
Friends of mine will soon move to Togo (West Africa). We are
exploring possibilities for them to establish email service. In
another forum I'm discussing the email services available locally in
Africa. Togo also has international X.25/X.28 service. My extremely
limited knowledge of X.25 comes from hearing people talk about TYMNET
and SPRINTNet, plus one paragraph in the O'Reilly book "Connecting to
the Internet." I have no idea what X.28 is.
1) What kinds of email service providers in the US could be reached via
X.25/X.28? I saw something that said MCIMail is reachable.
Probably CompuServe. One site in Togo runs UUCP over X.25. Should
I expect to find US Internet service providers who provide UUCP
accounts, who are reachable via X.25?
2) This is the scenario I believe to be true. My friend calls a phone
number in Togo to connect to X.25. I presume he logs in with a user
ID and password. Then it seems he must identify what remote system
he wants to connect to. That system prompts for another login. So
he uses a standard, voice grade phone line to get to the X.25 entry
point. What is the advantage of using X.25 to reach outside the
country rather than continuing the call through ordinary voice grade
phone lines? Clarity, cost?
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Ed Moore Hewlett-Packard
Vancouver, WA, USA edmoore@vcd.hp.com
------------------------------
From: Jerry Skene <jskene@delphi.com>
Subject: TELECOM 95 Space Available
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 16:49:03 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
---------------Telecom 95 space available.--------------------
If your company would be interested in having access to a fully
appointed presentation room in the USA pavilion of Telecom 95
in Geneva next year, read on.
We have two conference rooms which will be available to other
companies for daily presentations or meetings. These rooms seat 16
people, and have video/slide projector, etc. Connection to PC or
videoconference lines would also be possible.
If your company cannot provide sufficient meeting space on your own
stand, or you are on the long waiting list for exhibit space, or
cannot afford a dedicated booth at Telecom, this would be an ideal way
to ensure your company of a presence at this large and prestigious
international telecommunications exhibition.
If you are interested, please send me an Email to discuss.
jskene@delphi.com
------------------------------
From: Greg Monti <GMONTI@npr.org>
Subject: Industry Numbering Committee to Meet
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 17:51:59 EDT
The June 24, 1994 issue of {Communications Daily} notes that the
Telephone Industry Numbering Committee will meet July 24-29. Among
the topics to be considered: personal communications system (PCS)
number portability, assignment of 800-555 numbers and assignment
guidelines for interchangeable area codes that no longer use 1 or 0 as
the second digit. The story shows the contact for TINC to be Ron
Havens, 913-634-6881. The meeting will be held in Toronto.
Greg Monti, Tech Mgr, FISPO, Distribution Division
National Public Radio Phone: 202 414-3343
635 Massachusetts Av NW Fax: 202 414-3036
Washington, DC 20001-3753 Internet: gmonti@npr.org
------------------------------
From: wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey)
Subject: Int'l Calls to Taiwan; Sometimes System Says "Not Valid"
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 02:52:19 GMT
Called a friend in Taiwan lately, in the middle of the call, the line
cuts out. (Backround noise went to zero, nothing unusual, as this
happens when he's not talking, but this pause was longer. When I got
no response, then I knew the connection was lost), OK, no biggie, it
happens. Called the number again, got an error message saying that I
had dialed a non-valid international number. Tried again, same
message. After trying several times in around 20 minutes, the call
went thru, and had my friend back. He says the same thing would
happen when he (when living in the USA) tried to call his family from
USA to Taiwan. He'd end up waiting a day or so before the problem
would clear. He says telephone service in Taiwan is not too reliable.
But why did the telephone system say that I dialed a not valid
international number, and not say "lines to Taiwan are down now, try
later"? Also, do they still have analog lines from here to there? I
would have thought everything's digital now? Or is the Taiwan phone
system noisy?
------------------------------
From: Lee K. Gleason <gleason@MWK.COM>
Subject: Looking For Cell Phone Parts
Date: 27 Jun 94 23:06:53 CST
Organization: M. W. Kellogg, Houston TX
I'm looking for a mail order source for cell phone parts such as
power cords and antennae, for my Panasonic TP-500.
The local stores charge proces for parts that are beyond outrageous
... anyone know of a source for this stuff?
Lee K. Gleason N5ZMR Control-G Consultants gleason@mwk.com
------------------------------
From: segalh@ecf.toronto.edu (SEGAL HENRY ALAN)
Subject: How to Put '*' in Phone Number (Modem)
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 02:20:00 -0400
I have call waiting on my line, and if a call comes in when I am using
the line for my modem, it causes a disruption, sometimes logging me
out.
The solution is to dial *67 (I may have that wrong, but I know what it
is) before the phone number. Now, I am using Procomm, and it doesn't
accept the '*' character. Is it just the software? Is there an
alternative code I can use?
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: In most telecom jurisdictions, the asterisk
can be replaced with '11', as in 'eleven' -- not 'one, one' (to the dismay
of some puritans, although you accomplish dialing 'eleven' by pressing the
digit '1' twice in a row, granted. That is to say, '1167' will generally
be accepted in lieu of *67. In fact, 11-anything generally can be used
in place of *-anything if you are using Procomm or have one of those very
old *ten* button touchtone sets where there is nothing on either side of
the zero key. Try it on your phone and see. PAT]
------------------------------
From: Stephen Goodman <0003945654@mcimail.com>
Subject: Washington Post Article on Free Access Wanted
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 10:41:00 EST
The {Washington Post} had a story on either the 6/22 or 6/23 edition on
page 1 about how Maryland is offering Free Internet access. Is this
article available online? Does anyone have a copy of it they can either
post on the Digest or send to me? I'm curious to read it.
Thanks!
Stephen_Goodman@MCIMail.com
------------------------------
From: Thompson, Dave <davet@fpg.logica.com>
Subject: (Very) Sorry Wrong (800) Number
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 16:49:00 PDT
{Network World} June 20 1994 page 2 has a "Correction" to an item June
6 page 2 about Bell Atlantic announcing new AIN features for 1-800
subscribers, with the subhead "Dial 1-800-OPTIONS". The correction
says this "was believed to be a fictitious 800 number ... [but] is
actually in service by another company and should not be used ....
[For Bell Atlantic use] (703) 974-4507." Oops! I wonder if they
actually tested it -- or maybe it's for an area that doesn't include
their location (probably Framingham MA)?
Come to think of it, is there a standard or convention for the
intercept you get if you dial a 1-800 number from outside its
subscribed area (or any of the areas for a geographically reused
"local" number), as opposed to one not in service at all? I carefully
follow the instructions given (sometimes approaching "from CONUS,
PR/VI, and Ontario, except NYC and Ossining, dial ..." ;} so I've
never paid attention to this behavior!
Dave Thompson, davet@fpg.logica.com
Logica North America, +1 617-890-7730
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: "I'm sorry, the number you have dialed cannot
be reached from your calling area. This is a recording, <switch ID>." PAT]
------------------------------
From: David G. Cantor <dgc@ccrwest.org>
Subject: Re: O.J. Simpson Case
Reply-To: dgc@math.ucla.edu
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 21:25:57 -0700
In TELECOM Digest, Mon, 27 Jun 94, Volume 14, Issue 300, Robert L.
McMillin, in an article full of opinion, makes a number of comments
about the O. J. Simpson case. Frankly, I don't see what the O. J.
Simpson case has to do with telecommunications (except, perhaps that
it was reported over telecommunications media). Moreover, his posting
has numerous minor, but significant, errors.
For example, he refers, twice, to the "Los Angeles City District
Attorney". TELECOM Digest readers should be aware that the City of
Los Angeles doesn't have a District Attorney. Gil Garcetti, the
person to whom he is referring, is the Los Angeles COUNTY District
Attorney.
The difference between Los Angeles County and Los Angeles City is not
trivial. While the City is the largest of over 80 cities in the
County, the population of the County is roughly three times that of
the City. Los Angeles City does have an elected City Attorney who
handles, among other things, misdemeanor matters in the City.
As another example, McMillin refers to "the municipal courts building
in Santa Monica (or Beverly Hills)" as if one of those places is where
the case will be heard. The case is, in fact, being tried in the Van
Nuys SUPERIOR Court, the same Court in which the Menendez case was,
and continues to be, heard.
David G. Cantor Department of Mathematics
University of California at Los Angeles dgc@math.ucla.edu
------------------------------
From: TELECOM Digest Editor <telecom@eecs.nwu.edu>
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 21:08:46 CDT
Subject: Re: O.J. Simpson Case
In article <telecom14.300.8@eecs.nwu.edu> I noted:
> Idiots are everywhere it seems; people were at the house the other day
> trying to snatch up any bloody souveniers they could find; bits of the
> carpet, etc. One fellow had a carpet-cutting tool with him to remove a bit
> of the carpet. They in turn were arrested for trespassing; probably none of
> them have any idea what they did wrong.
Someone reading this mentioned to me that when the 'Los Angeles' crashed and
burned in 193<mumble>, souvenier hunters swarmed over the site snatching
up anything they could, including the captain's Naval Academy ring (which
was still attached to his cold dead finger).
There seems to be nothing new under the sun, but sometimes I forget what
all is under the sun to begin with. How's this one for exquisite taste
and fine citizenship? A couple days ago a woman on the west side of
Chicago was crossing the street pushing her shopping cart full of whatever
she had purchased and leading her four year old daughter by the hand.
A car swerves out of control and heads straight at her. She had the presence
of mind to shove her daughter out of the way in the nick of time but she
wound up getting hit by the car (with her daughter safely to the side) and
her shopping cart overturned in the street. As she laid there unable to
get up and unconscious, passers-by on the sidewalk came out into the
street -- not to help her, mind you -- but to help themselves to the
contents of her shopping cart and her purse which was laying nearby. All
the while, the little girl was trying to protect her mother and telling
people to 'leave us alone'. All of her groceries were stolen as well as
whatever she had in her purse. The paramedics showed up within a couple
minutes or less and hauled her off to the hospital along with the little
girl who by now was totally terrified.
Like one of my heroes Henry Ward Beecher, I've never believed in the
concept of a place called Hell, but sometimes *I wish I did* because if
anyone deserves to burn there it would be the nasty, greedy people who
go to the site of disasters (either small personal ones or the more
major type) and pick through the possessions of the helpless victims.
That's life in Chicago and I guess its standard operating procedure for
some in the City of Angeles as well. Truly, a nation of idiots.
Thanks to David Cantor for his corrections to McMillin's article yester-
day, but none the less, McMillin's comments are well-taken, at least
by some of us. PAT]
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Subject: TELECOM Digest V14 #302
TELECOM Digest Tue, 28 Jun 94 11:47:00 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 302
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
ITU-TSS vs. ANSI (Stephen Williams)
Bilingual Telephone Numbers? (Andrew C. Green)
Satellite Phone Wanted (John Biederstedt)
Who's That Voice? (Jeffrey W. McKeough)
Information Wanted on `Set-Top Box' (Lim JaiJin)
Motorola Digital Cellular Phone (Ian Daniel Plotkin)
Cellular Phones and Lightning (Shawn Gordhamer)
Cellular Phone and Tower Handshaking (Shawn Gordhamer)
Pointers to Information on Cable Modem Details (Steve Cogorno)
Information on Transponders and Cable Network Development (Kevin Apperson)
Need 300 mSec Phone Line Delay For Modem Testing (Dave Mc Mahan)
17.5 No-Surcharge Travel Service (Van Hefner)
Info: Telephone Country/Area Codes: Anywhere:by Gopher|FTP (Monty Solomon)
MS-Windows based Centrex Attendant Console (Robert J. Kinder)
Testing Tool For Tele-Software Wanted (Filip Vertommen)
SMR Licensees Wanted (Alex Cena)
Hungarian Portables (Robert Scott)
Modems for Kenya (Jason M. Githeko)
Non-Tariffed Long Distance Telecommunications Carriers (Aaron Woolfson)
GSM Coverage of Indonesia? (Ben Anderson)
Sending Cross-Stitch by Telegraph: Did Anyone Ever do it? (Peter Rukavina)
Phone Scrambler, Caller ID Information (John Lundgren)
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From: stephenw@Newbridge.COM (Stephen Williams)
Subject: ITU-TSS vs. ANSI
Reply-To: stephenw@Newbridge.COM
Organization: Newbridge Networks Corporation
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 10:08:43 -0400
I am having trouble getting any definitive answers on the differences
between the ITU-TSS and ANSI specifications for Frame Relay, etc.
ANSI T1.602 says that it is identical to ITU-T's Q.920/921 combined.
Fine. ANSI T1.617 says that it is similar to Q.933 and an extension
to Q.922. And ANSI T1.618 says that it is similar to Q.922 and an
extension to Q.921.
It's those words "similar" that I don't like. What ARE the similarities,
and differences? Are there any? I have never been able to figure this out
by looking at any documentation, the ATM-FAQ, RFC 1490, etc.
IE: If I want to implement the data link layer for frame relay, do I
need to even look at the ANSI specs?
Thanks,
Stephen Williams
(Please respond by e-mail: stephenw@newbridge.com)
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From: Andrew C. Green <ACG@dlogics.com>
Subject: Bilingual Telephone Numbers?
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 10:40:07 CDT
Was waiting in line at the downtown Walgreen's this morning, and
noticed a Caller Name and Number ID box on prominent display. The big
marketing triumph which warranted its $59.99 price was trumpeted in a
large, bilingual (English and Spanish) sticker on the box: "BILINGUAL
NAME AND NUMBER DISPLAY!"
Now, perhaps I'm missing something here, but I must admit I don't know
how I would translate "Green, Andrew C." and "(312) 266-xxxx" into
Spanish without the assistance of this thing. Clearly a bargain at
twice the price!
Andrew C. Green
Datalogics, Inc. Internet: acg@dlogics.com
441 W. Huron Chicago, IL 60610-3498
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From: John@VAX1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU
Subject: Satellite Phone Wanted
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 16:52:57 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University
Is there a phone on the market that can use a satellite (not a cell)
to communicate? Some friends and I want to take a trip to where there
are no phones (obviously) and no cells. We thought maybe we could
rent a satellite phone, if possible.
John Biederstedt John@VAX1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU
Mankato State University Mankato, MN 56002
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Wouldn't the ship to shore (or high seas)
service work out in John's case? I am thinking of Marisat or Maristat?
Can you get portable phones to carry around which use that service? PAT]
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From: jwm@student.umass.edu (Jeffrey W. McKeough)
Subject: Who's That Voice?
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 04:26:25
After reading an interesting discussion in the archives about Jane
Barbe, the former voice of the Bell System, the voice of the time in
several cities, and of many Octel systems (at least those that have
not upgraded to a Marsha Graham software release), I was wondering if
anyone has any information about yet another of those famous voices.
The woman in question has done many recordings including the
ubiquitous AT&T carrier identification chime and calling card auto
attendant, the EasyReach voice prompts, RBOC recordings (including
NYNEX's return call/repeat call prompts, and the new "You must dial 1+
the area code intercepts). I've always found it interesting to be
able to put a name with a voice, so I thought I'd ask.
Jeffrey W. McKeough jwm@student.umass.edu
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From: jjin@olive.snu.ac.kr (Lim JaiJin)
Subject: Information Wanted on 'Set-Top Box'
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 94 09:09:07 GMT
Hi, everyone !
Is there anyone or anysite from whom or where I can get in contact
with some informations about set-top box used in VOD (Video-On-Demand)
as a customer information appliance like VCR ?
Currently I'm studying the OS of set-top box. I'd like to know `OS
requirements' of set-top box. I'd like to know why `real-time OS'
is requred for set-top box.
Any hints and notices would be greatly appreciated.
NAME: Lim, Jai-jin
EMAIL: jjin@olive.snu.ac.kr
ADDRESS:
Department of Computer Science & Statistics,
Seoul National University,
Sinlim-Dong, Gwanak-Ku, Seoul,
151-742, Republic Of Korea
PHONE: +82-02-880-6582
FAX: +82-02-871-4912
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From: idp3286@hertz.njit.edu (Ian Daniel Plotkin)
Subject: Motorola Digital Cellular Phone
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, New Jersey
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 08:47:45 GMT
Does anyone have any experience with Motorola's new Digital flip-fone?
Is digital cellular as widespread as analog yet? The local carrier
here in central NJ is Comcast/CellularOne. Does anyone know if NJ is
covered by a digital network? While the other (analog) flipfones go
for around $50 /w signon deal, is it worth it at this point in time to
shell out the $300 or so (/w signon deal) for the digital phone? Any
info would be appreciated!
Thanks,
Ian Daniel Plotkin idp3286@hertz.njit.edu
(201)824-4701 (800)333-5729 x110 (908)246-3365
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From: shawnlg@netcom.com (Shawn Gordhamer)
Subject: Cellular Phones and Lightning
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 03:04:33 GMT
Someone told me that in a lightning storm, lightning can follow the
radio waves given out by your cellular phone. I assume this is
because the air is more ionized where the waves are strong. Is this
true? Is it unsafe to use a handheld cellular phone in a lightning
storm? I'm not talking about a mobile phone with a tall antenna.
Shawn Gordhamer shawnlg@netcom.com Rochester, Minnesota USA
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From: shawnlg@netcom.com (Shawn Gordhamer)
Subject: Cellular Phone and Tower Handshaking
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 03:26:00 GMT
I can tell when my cellular phone talks to the tower, because my tape
player near it slows down and buzzes loudly whenever my phone
transmits. Therefore, I know about how often my phone and the towers
communicate when the phone is on but not being used.
Sometimes when I turn my phone on, it doesn't bother talking to the
tower at all. Sometimes, it transmits for a short period of time.
But it usually does this once and not at set intervals. With this in
mind, I have come up with the following theory about how a phone and
tower keep track of each other. Someone please let me know if there
is any truth in this.
When you turn on a cellular phone, it knows what tower is nearest it.
Each tower must have some unique ID so that your phone knows if it
approaches a different tower. A tower does not ask a phone if it is
there. Instead, the phone tells the tower it is there. Thus, if I
turn on my phone for the first time and it is near tower A, it will
tell tower A that it is near it. Tower A then assumes, until the
cellular network tells it differently, that my phone is still near it.
I can turn off my phone and turn it back on. It has in its memory the
tower it last talked to. Thus, if I turn it off and back on, if it
still picks up tower A as the strongest, it won't even tell tower A it
is there again. It assumes that tower A still thinks it is there.
There must be some timeout value. If I left my phone off for a year,
it would probably tell tower A it was back when turned on.
When the phone is on and not being used, it continually checks the
different frequencies of the towers. If I move closer to tower B, my
phone, and not the tower, realizes this. My phone then tells tower B
it is there. Tower B is now the one that will deal with my phone, and
the cellular network will tell tower A that I'm gone.
When actually talking on my phone, the towers themselves must monitor
my signal strength. I can hear my phone change frequencies quite
often while I talk, even when I am just pasing around one room. The
phone never transmits tower changes that often when it is not being
used.
Do I have this basically right?
Also, why does my phone change frequencies so often? I can tell
because the conversation cuts out for about 1/4 second and one or the
other party usually misses a word in the conversation. Is this
because I am between two towers and they can't decide who gets me? Or
is this to thwart scanning by moving my conversation all over the
frequency band? Either way, it's quite annoying, and I'd prefer the
scan risk then always being cut off while my phone changes
frequencies.
Thanks for any info.
Shawn Gordhamer shawnlg@netcom.com
Rochester, Minnesota USA
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think what is happening is that the tower
you were on has decided it is time to pass you on to the next tower, but
the next tower has no channels available at that precise moment and it tells
the first tower to continue holding you as long as possible. It is not so
much a question of deciding who gets your call as it is finding a vacant
channel on the tower you should be with. If it has nothing available for a
few seconds or a minute even though logically you are in its range, then
the earlier tower has to keep holding you, and when it can do so no longer
then it has to give your call to some tower somewhere, even if the most
likely one (nearest you, getting your signal the strongest) has no room
for you. So, it then finds some tower someplace which can hear you at
least a little better than it can and hands off your call if possible,
otherwise you simply get dropped. PAT]
------------------------------
From: cogorno@netcom.com (Steve Cogorno)
Subject: Pointers to Information on Cable Modem Details
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 00:07:40 PDT
Michael S. Pontecorvo said:
> I am looking for information on cable modems. How the technology
> works, baud rates, error recovery, etc. Any pointers would be helpful.
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What is a 'cable modem'? PAT]
A cable modem is a device that transmits/receives data over two-way
cable lines (cable as in cable TV).
Steve cogorno@netcom.com
------------------------------
From: kap@netcom.com (Kevin D. Apperson)
Subject: Information on Transponders and Cable Network Development
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 03:24:07 GMT
When is it ever better to lease than purchase a transponder when starting
a cable channel?
I really appreciate any references on this, and related information.
Thanks.
------------------------------
From: mcmahan@netcom.com (Dave Mc Mahan)
Subject: Need 300 mSec phone line delay for modem testing
Organization: Dave McMahan @ NetCom Services
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 06:16:00 GMT
I need to test a product that contains a modem. One of the
requirements is that it work over a satellite. This requirement can
be tested if we use a delay line between modems that has up to 300
milliseconds of delay in each direction.
1) The quality of the delayed signal must be such that a 2400 baud modem
is able to operate over it.
2) Ideally, the delay would be adjustable over the range of 200 milliseconds
to 300 milliseconds. If it is fixed, I think we can live with it.
3) The delay equipment must have the necessary 2-to-4 wire conversion
circuitry to convert from telco signal to whatever is required
internally by the delay. Ideally, we would just plug in an RJ-11 jack
to obtain the desired delay.
4) Dialing and ringing via standard telco methods is not required. All
I'm looking for is the delay function that is accessible via RJ-11
jacks.
We are not looking to purchase this piece of test gear. We would like
to rent it instead. If you know of a company that makes this type of
equipment or one that rents it, please let me know.
In the interests of brevity, please respond via e-mail directly to the
poster at:
mcmahan@netcom.com
Dave McMahan mcmahan@netcom.com
------------------------------
From: VANTEK@aol.com
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 94 03:29:10 EDT
Subject: 17.5 No-Surcharge Travel Service
> The article was quite brief, but it seemed to indicate that ATN was
> offering a Calling Card service charging 17.5 cents per minute DAY
> rate, which is pretty good compared to the 23 cents which I am paying
> now.
> There is no surcharge associated with this service, and they didn't
> mention any monthly fees. (Although maybe there are - I'll see when I
> get their literature.)
ATN doesn't have any monthly fees for their calling card. And yes, the
17.5 cents per minute is accurate. As a matter of fact, they will also
provide you with your own personal (800) number (residential, or
business) for $.18/min., also with no minimums, and no monthly fees.
They just recently added a 'message service' to their calling card,
which will deliver a recorded voice message to any number you dial
that is busy, or has no answer. The actual long-distance service is
provided by LDDS/MetroMedia.
> I don't know if they offer six-second billing as does ConTelCom
Yes, all billing for the calling card and (800) service uses six
second incriments (30 sec. minimum). ATN resells long distance
services for LDDS, MCI, AT&T, etc. If you'd like any free applications,
or further info on the company you can also e-mail me. ATN is based
in Buffalo, NY and I'm currently contracted with them to market their
commercial and residential services.
Van Hefner VANTEK Communications vantek@aol.com
------------------------------
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.COM>
Subject: Information: Telephone Country/Area Codes: Anywhere:by Gopher|FTP
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 03:12:51 GMT
Passed along FYI:
From: jayarama@chaph.usc.edu (Prakash Jayaraman)
Newsgroups: comp.archives
Subject: [soc.culture.tamil] INFO: telephone country/area codes:anywhere:
by go pher|ftp.
Followup-To: poster
Date: 15 Jun 1994 15:53:27 +0200
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Archive-Name: auto/soc.culture.tamil/INFO-telephone-country-area-codes-anywhere-by-gopher-ftp
Hi,
Telephone Country codes/area codes are available through gopher or
ftp.
The gopher path that I went through was,
Gopher (USC, LA client)
Other gophers
Gopher by subject
Gopher by subject from Rice university
Geography
Telephone country /area codes
Telephone country/area codes from U.of.Oregon
search for country code/area code
U need to specify the place to get the country/area code. Spelling is
a problem.
(I searched for Trichy, Tiruchy, Tiruchirappalli and Tiruchirapalli in
vain. Tiruchirappally is there. :) Even places like Somarasampettai,
Tirupparaaiththurai have been listed. There are two 'Hyderabad's. One
in India and another in Pakistan. Both Indian Salem and American Salem
are reported when u search for 'salem')
(README file has some more info.)
If u can't find out the area code by searching (because of wrong
spelling), use ftp.
README file can be read through Gopher. Each zone has been given a
number. For example South Asia has been given the number 9. Download
the corresponding file by ftp in the following site. (You can do it
through gopher again.)
The ftp site is:
lcs.mit.edu:/telecom-archives/country-codes
There is a file for each zone. Each is a .Z file.
'uncompress' the file u downloaded and load it in emacs editor. Now do
a search. It is easy now. :)
Hope it helps.
_J._Prakash
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, I don't know *where* this fellow
is getting the country code files (which started out in the Telecom
Archives) but as I have them posted they are *not* .Z or compressed
files. They are straight ASCII text as filed in the public directory
he mentions above. Carl Moore and David Leibold maintain this part
of the Archives, and have for a few years now. PAT]
------------------------------
From: rkinder@gate.net (Robert J. Kinder)
Subject: MS-Windows based Centrex Attendant Console
Date: 28 Jun 1994 13:00:49 GMT
I am searching for an MS-Windows based Centrex Attendant Console.
Especially one which uses ISDN as the interface to the switch. Does
anyone know if this is available?
Thanks!
Robert Kinder rkinder@gate.net
Software Engineer Siemens Stromberg-Carlson
Boca Raton, Florida
------------------------------
From: filipv@arti.vub.ac.be (Filip Vertommen)
Subject: Testing Tool For Tele-Software Wanted
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 13:11:15 GMT
Organization: VUB AI-LAB
We are a medium sized company in Belgium. We have developed
tele-software for our customers.
We are currently looking for a testing and monitoring tool: this tool
should allow us to control this tele-service from a customer's point
of view and to test new developments in this area before bringing them
to our customers.
The tool should be able to:
1. easily register test-flows and the wanted results: in fact to
simulate a customer
2. make comparisons between expected and real results
As the software should be able to make telephone-calls as well as
connection through a LAN, we think that a PC-program (running in
MS-Windows(?)) would be the best solution.
Does anyone know of such a program or does anyone have other
suggestions?
We are willing to pay a reasonable price for such a package.
You can contact us by phone (Belgium: +32.2.422.75.29, Mr. Vertommen) or
by E-mail (filipv@arti.vub.ac.be).
Thank you, it would help us a lot.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 94 07:27:09 EST
From: Alex Cena <acena@lehman.com>
Subject: SMRs Licensees Wanted
Can anyone supply me with a good source to locate SMR licensees in
foreign markets?
Alex M. Cena, Lehman Brothers, acena@lehman.com
------------------------------
From: rbs@cs.city.ac.uk (Robert Scott)
Subject: Hungarian Portables
Date: 28 Jun 1994 16:59:05 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, City University, London
Reply-To: rbs@cs.city.ac.uk
I noticed that quite a lot of people in Hungary have portable phones,
maybe even approaching the percentage per population as in the UK
(pure speculation from watching posers with portables on the street).
Apparantly people are turning to portables because it still takes 10
years to get a phoneline installed in Hungary (unless you are a new
convertable currency earning company).
I was thinking that it might be handy to be able to roam between
Hungary and the UK. Does anyone know anything about such roaming? It
looked to me like many of the phones were GSM900 type with the smart
card.
Rob Scott, City University, London
------------------------------
From: githeko@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu (Jason M. Githeko)
Subject: Modems For Kenya
Date: 28 Jun 1994 21:06:48 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois
I am part of an effort to promote the use of simple computer networks
to overcome the great difficulties that people in Kenya (and Africa in
general) have in acquiring information.
A number of sel-help organizations are involved in the effort
including the Kenya Association for the Advancement of Computer
Technolgy (KAACT) to which I belong.
We appeal to anyone interested to help with procurement of modems
(2400 to 9600 baud external) which are badly needed but not affordable
by the health and educational institutions we seek to help. Modems may
be new or used.
You may contact me for further info regarding this effort. Thanks.
Jason M. Githeko University of Illinois
1310 S. 6th, #345 Champaign, IL 61820
e-mail: githeko@uiuc.edu
------------------------------
From: awoolfso@uop.edu (Aaron Woolfson)
Subject: Non-Tariffed Long Distance Telecommunications Carriers
Date: 28 Jun 1994 04:26:28 -0700
Organization: University of the Pacific
I would like to discuss SLAMMING, and ask for your help to help us
stop it. Long Distance Carriers, just like consumers, DO NOT like
having subscribers SLAMMED to their networks. It is generally the
work of UNTARIFFED resellers who work on Commission and Flat-Fee per
account only, not the work of fully tariffed Long Distance Carriers.
SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SLAMMED, IN FACT, that I thought I would
address this problem and ask for your assistance in helping solve it.
Delta Telecommunications, based in Stockton, California, has recently
submitted all of the respective paperwork to become a fully tariffed
long distance telephone carrier to handle calls within the State of
California.
A certain carrier based in Hawaii, which I will not mention for fear
of being sued for slander, has boxes in almost every establishment
here in Stockton, California, advertising "Win a new Car!" What
people who enter don't realize is the small text on THE BACK and on
the bottom which says that WilTel will become the primary carrier.
I phoned the president of the company and asked them if they were
tariffed. They said "no" and that they just get a percentage from
WilTel on billings. This would appear to a lot of people as
"slamming". I called the Public Utilities Commission and asked them.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE SIGNING UP SUBSCRIBERS WITHIN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA AND YOU ARE A SEPARATE ENTITY FROM THE RESPECTIVE CARRIER,
THEN YOU MUST FILE A TARIFF. UNLESS, HOWEVER, YOU ARE JUST AN AGENT
REPRESENTING THE RESPECTIVE TARIFFED CARRIER AND ARE OPERATING UNDER
THEIR TARIFF. I.E. Phoenix Network D.B.A. Office Depot Communications.
This is fine and legal. But ABC Resellers slamming subscribers to
WilTel, Sprint, or AT&T is NOT fine.
IF anyone has any questions regarding the technicalities of California
Public Utilities Code or any of the procedures which Carriers must go
through to become Tariffed, please call the California State Public
Utilities Commission.
IF anyone has a complaint, according to Joe McIlvane of the California
Public Utilities Commission; the commission takes it very seriously.
PLEASE complain if you get SLAMMED.
------------------------------
From: ben@pipkin.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Ben Anderson)
Subject: GSM Coverage of Indonesia?
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 10:28:49 GMT
Reply-To: B.Anderson@loughborough.ac.uk
Organization: Loughborough University of Technology
Hello,
Does anyone know if GSM covers parts of Indonesia - specifically
southern Sumatra. Or is it just a European service?
Thanks,
Ben Anderson
<a href="http://pipkin.lut.ac.uk">LUTCHI Research Centre</a>
Department of Computer Studies Loughborough University
Loughborough Leicestershire UK B.Anderson@lut.ac.uk
------------------------------
From: Peter Rukavina <peter@crafts-council.pe.ca>
Subject: Sending cross-stitch by telegraph: did anyone ever do it?
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 09:48:52 +0100
As part of a "what is digital information, anyway?" spot for local
radio I put together, I used the process of creating a cross-stitch
pattern from a photograph -- essentially, you lay a grid on tracing
paper over top and fill in the 'black' squares with an 'X' and leave
the 'white' squares blank -- as an example of digitizing a picture.
Earlier I had used the example of Morse Code as an example of the same
sort of thing applied to text.
It occured to me that "in the old days" it would have been possible to
send a cross-stitch pattern (or any sort of similar "digitized picture")
by telegraph just by using a 'dash' to represent an 'X' and a 'dot' to
represent a 'blank.'
Does anyone know whether anything like this was ever actually done?
Peter
------------------------------
From: jlundgre@ohlone.kn.PacBell.COM (John Lundgren)
Subject: Phone Scrambler, Caller ID Information
Date: 28 Jun 94 09:40:01 GMT
Organization: Pacific Bell Knowledge Network
I found a couple items of interest. Sorry about the blatant commercialism.
TELEPHONE CALL SCRAMBLER
from Vol 29 Supplement & Price List
Manufacturer: TT Systems
* Intercepts incoming calls with a synthesized voice message asking
for secret code. * Auto disconnect when code is not entered
* Three digit secret code is easily programmed by user between
000 and 999 * One button on/off control * LED allows user to
see if incoming calls are being processed * Does not effect
outgoing calls. * Simply plugs into telephone jack and AC outlet.
Product No. TT-PS1000, Price: $79.83
Also many other catalog items available. Such as:
Northern Telecom NT-XT Caller ID module $15.99, NT XT+ $18.97
Tele-Com Products, Inc.
1070 Hamilton Rd. Duarte, CA 91010 USA
(800) 888-7466 / (818) 303-1183
Judi Lomas X413 FAX (818) 358-8485
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Oh, don't worry about commercializing the
net ... I do it all the time :) ... trouble is, the folks who complain
about it had better hope -- they should be so lucky -- that my feeble
little 'commercials' in the past are the worst it gets; but I don't think
so. You should see all the stuff I am junking unused these days if you
want to see what 'commercializing the net' is all about. It comes through
heavily some days. Farewell to Usenet as we knew it ... :( PAT]
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Caller ID and the FCC Ruling (Monty Solomon)
Caller ID; the Argument Continues (John R. Levine)
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From: dwn@dwn.ccd.bnl.gov (Dave Niebuhr)
Subject: New Dialing Plan in New York
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 94 09:28:10 EDT
My latest NYNEX (NYTel land) bill insert has instructions on how to
dial until September 24, 1994, when the cutover to 1+ dialing will
become mandatory.
This is what is given for the Metropolitan New York LATA which is
defined as New York City (ACs 212, 718, 917), Long Island (Nassau and
Suffolk Counties - AC 516), Upstate NY (Rockland, Westchester, Putnam,
Counties, and Greenwood Lake, Highland Falls and Tuxedo in Orange
County). No mention of the tiny portion of Connecticut (AC 203) that
is served by NYTel and is in the NY LATA.
Current Dialing:
Calls to Other Area Codes:
AC + 7D or 1+ AC + 7D
Calls Within Area Code:
7D
New Dialing:
Calls to Other Area Codes:
1+ AC + 7D
Calls Within Area Code:
7D (no change)
Credit Card and Operator-Assisted Calls
(within your area code)
Current Dialing:
0 + 7D
New Dialing:
0 + AC + 7D
I'm making the assumption that the rest of NY will change in this
manner; however, I don't know about Rochester Tel, Fisher's Island Tel
and any other independents that are in the state.
Dave Niebuhr Internet: dwn@dwn.ccd.bnl.gov (preferred)
niebuhr@bnl.gov / Bitnet: niebuhr@bnl
Senior Technical Specialist, Scientific Computing Facility
Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton, NY 11973 1+(516) 282-3093
FAX 1+(516) 282-7688
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Date: Wed, 29 Jun 94 19:50:54 CDT
From: clifto@indep1.chi.il.us (Clifton T. Sharp)
Subject: Ameritech Playing Games?
AT&T's advertising in the Chicago area, saying that for a limited time
tye would carry "C" and "D" band calls cheaper than Ameritech, has
been talked about before in this newsgroup. I decided just now to try
it for the first time.
I dialed 10288 708 974 ...
... and an intercept told me, "When dialing a call outside your area
code or an 800 number, dial 1 first. ..."
Naturally, I tried 10288 1 708 974 ... got the same results.
Ameritech's switch is grabbing my call! Well, let me try 1 800 222 0300
next ...
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From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.COM>
Subject: Caller ID and the FCC Ruling
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 11:27:12 -0400
Excerpts from EPIC Alert 1.03
[3] FCC Caller ID Decision Appealed
Several state utility commissions, including New York's and
California's, have petitioned the Federal Communications Commission to
reconsider its controversial Caller ID decision. The petitions ask the
FCC to reverse its decision mandating per-call blocking for interstate
calls and its preemption of state regulations. The commissions are
concerned that the federal regulation will limit consumer privacy
protection for intra-state calls.
It is uncertain if the FCC will take the unusual action of accepting
the petitions. Since the Caller ID decision was released in April, two
new commissioners have joined the FCC. A total of 48 parties,
including telephone companies who are concerned about which party is
charged the cost of transmitting the information, have filed petitions
asking the FCC to reconsider its decision.
Per-call blocking, which is favored by telephone companies, requires
that a caller to enter a series of numbers into their telephone before
each call to prevent their number from being distributed. Under
per-line blocking, privacy blocking is the default and the caller may
opt to release their number.
The New York Public Utility Commission's petition notes that "there is
no technological bar to enabling each state to designate per line or
per call blocking and have that privacy notation affixed to that
caller's phone calls both intra and interstate." The PUC calls on the
FCC, which did not hold a single hearing on Caller ID, to review the
decisions of the many states that did hold hearings.
Professor Rohan Samarajiva of Ohio State University, who also filed
for reconsideration, found that 46 states held hearings on Caller ID
before the FCC issued their final decision. He found that as
information became more available on Caller ID, the state utility
commissioners increasingly required that per-line blocking be offered
in addition to per-call. By 1994, 33 jurisdictions developed rules
with stronger privacy protection than the FCC decision. 18 states
require per-line blocking be offered to all consumers, including
Pennsylvania, Ohio, California and New York.
CPSR has also filed a petition asking the FCC to revise its decision.
CPSR calls for free per-line blocking and note the additional burden
of per call blocking will cost consumers who have unlisted telephone
numbers $1.2 billion each year through the disclosure of unlisted
numbers. They describe the FCCUs suggestion that consumers who wish
to ensure that their numbers remain private purchase equipment as
unreliable and discriminatory.
In addition, the California PUC has filed suit in the 9th Circuit
Court of Appeals, asking the court to overturn the ruling and prevent
its implementation.
The FCC decision on Caller ID and the CPSR Petition for
Reconsideration are available from cpsr.org. See below for details.
[4] NY PUC Letter to FCC on Caller ID
The following is a letter set by New York State Public Utility
Committee Chairman Peter Bradford to FCC Chairman Reed Hundt on the
FCC's Caller ID decision. For more information, contact Stacey Harwood
at 518-473-0276.
STATE OF NEW YORK
PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION
ALBANY 12223
PETER A. BRADFORD THREE EMPIRE STATE PLAZA
CHAIRMAN (518)474-2530
June 1, 1994
Reed Hundt, Chairman
Federal Communications Commission
1919 M Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20554
Dear Chairman Hundt:
I am writing to express My concern about the Federal Communications
Commission's recent decision (Docket #91-281) limiting the range of
privacy protections available to telephone callers in connection with
Call ID service. The potential preemptive features of this decision
undermine sensible allocation of responsibility between state and
federal jurisdictions, namely that the federal government preempt only
where issues of overriding national concern are clearly at stake and
then only after strong proof that no alternative approach will protect
the national concerns.
All of these essential elements (clear national concern, strong
proof, and the absence of other alternatives) are lacking here.
Instead, the casual reasoning and the destructive remedy mock stated
Clinton Administration eagerness to work with the states to assure
that telecommunications decisions are sensitive to important consumer
issues.
The FCC's decision appears to ignore the states' considerable
experience with Call ID. Prior to its authorization of Call ID, the
New York Public Service Commission (like many other states) conducted
extensive customer outreach and education programs to determine how
best to balance the privacy interests of the calling and called
parties. many witnesses, including psychiatrists, social workers,
police, other public safety officials, as well as family violence
crisis centers, saw danger and/or nuisance in Call ID without the
option of per line blocking.
These hearings established that privacy protection consisting only of
per call blocking represents the worst of all worlds. The harassing
caller is unlikely to forget to use per call blocking. It is the
customer who does not realize the implications of the availability of
Call ID to commercial number gatherers (or others who may abuse it)
who is likely to make his or her telephone number inadvertently
available. As a result, we concluded that in New York callers should
have the option of both per call and per line blocking. Since Call ID
service was approved with these options two years ago, no complaints
have been received from either Call ID subscribers or callers on the
issue of blocking. Furthermore, the market for Call ID does not seem
to be hurt by the availability of per line blocking, for subscription
rates are at least as high in states with per line blocking as
elsewhere.
Nevertheless, the FCC decision contemplates preemption of state
requirements inconsistent with a federal per-call-blocking- only
regime. Since per line blocking only for intrastate calls does not
seem feasible, New York's standard (and those of some 40 other states)
will be preempted. Protracted litigation over the FCC decision is
certain and may impede the introduction of interstate Call ID service.
Several states, including New York are seeking reconsideration of the
FCC decision and California has challenged the FCC order in court.
Customer confusion and disappointment with limitations on privacy
options will spawn a host of complaints.
Furthermore, it will be hard for state regulators, to justify the
current surcharge for unpublished listings while telephone companies
market a service that compromises the value of those listings. I have
enclosed a recent New York notice raising this concern for parties in
two major cases. Telephone companies are not likely to go forward with
Call ID if they must forego tens of millions of dollars per year in
charges for unpublished numbers.
I hope that the FCC will think again about the impact of this
decision. It is likely to damage the prospects for Call ID, and it is
certain to damage federal-state relations in the communications area
at a time when much depends on our mutual trust and cooperation.
Sincerely,
/sig
Peter Bradford
[6] Files Available for retrieval
The CPSR Internet Library is a free service available via
FTP/WAIS/Gopher/listserv from cpsr.org:/cpsr. Materials from Privacy
International, the Taxpayers Assets Project and the Cypherpunks are
also archived. For more information, contact ftp-admin@cpsr.org.
Files on Caller ID: /privacy/communications/caller_id/
The FCC decision - fcc_caller_id_decision_94.txt.
CPSR Petition for Reconsideration - CPSR_RFR_on_FCC_Caller-ID_Order.txt
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From: johnl@iecc.com (John R Levine)
Subject: Caller ID; The Argument Continues
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 94 9:34:12 EDT
The New York Public Utility Committee Chairman Peter Bradford sent a
letter dated June 1 to Reed Hunt at the FCC challenging the CLID
decision. Major points:
* Many states have had hearings on CLID, the FCC didn't, and the FCC
didn't appear to take into account the states' experience with it.
Claims that nobody will buy CLID if line blocking is available are
not borne out by experience, subscription rates are similar in states
with and without.
* If unlisted subscribers can't get line blocking, state regulators
are likely to reduce or eliminate the charge for an unlisted number,
since the privacy it provides will have been considerably reduced.
This last one could be interesting, since the amount of money telcos
are likely to make from CLID is dwarfed by what they make from unlisted
numbers.
Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, jlevine@delphi.com, 1037498@mcimail.com
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From: Lynne Gregg <lynne.gregg@mccaw.com>
Subject: Calling Number ID for Cellular Users
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 94 02:07:00 PDT
johng@ecs.comm.mot.com wrote:
> Caller ID service is among several services that have been available
> to analog subscribers on narrow band AMPS (NAMPS) systems since 1991.
> See the April 1991 issue of {Communications} magazine for more on NAMPS.
Not so! Cellular services based on NAMPS do not deliver CPN. They
rely upon the caller's willingness and inclination to key in their
telephone number. These services can be a hassle for callers.
Regards,
Lynne
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From: taranto@panix.com (James Taranto)
Subject: Cross-Country Caller ID
Date: 30 Jun 1994 01:04:26 GMT
Organization: The Bad Taranto
At 8:20 this evening, my phone in Brooklyn rang. I glanced at my
Caller ID device and saw the number was unfamiliar, so I prepared
myself for a surprise. I picked up the phone, and was indeed
surprised -- it was my friend Rich from California. I looked more
carefully at the Caller ID readout: 310-843-XXXX. It seems at least
some numbers are being transmitted across LATA boundaries via Caller
ID.
I experimented a bit, calling through various long-distance carriers
to my voice line. Sprint, MCI, AT&T, and ITT did not pass Caller ID
data, even on an intra-LATA (intra-room, for that matter) call. I
found one company that does, however. "Wiltel" (I don't know the
spelling), whose access code is 10555.
Cheers,
James Taranto taranto@panix.com
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From: tym%infoage%sdnpk@sdnhq.undp.org
Date: 30 Jun 94 04:25:15
Subject: SOS For Online Telecom Consultants
Dear Mr. Townson,
My organization is attempting to introduce advanced telecom facilities
in Pakistan for the first time.
We desperately require online consultants to assist in ushering the
Information Age into our country.
You are requested to post this message onto the appropriate BBS/s
because we have very limited connectivity for the time being.
Thank you,
Tayyab Yazdani.
CEO, INFOAGE
ISLAMABAD, PAKISTAN
FAX:92-51-212796
EMAIL:TYM%INFOAGE%SDNPK%SDNHQ@NYGATE.UNDP.ORG
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From: bwgti16v@telerama.lm.com (Brian Wicks)
Subject: Norstar Phone System for Sale
Date: 29 Jun 1994 11:47:15 -0400
Organization: Telerama Public Access Internet, Pittsburgh, PA
For Sale: Bell Atlantic Meridian Phone System Includes: 1 Norstar DR5
6 Line CPU/Software Unit 3 Black M7208 Programmable Multi-line Phones
This is a full featured, user programmable, expandable phone system.
It would be perfect for any small business or startup. Purchased new
for $2660 4-19-94. Asking $1495.
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From: shree@maple.cse.ucsc.edu (Shree N. Murthy)
Subject: DECT Standards
Date: 29 Jun 1994 15:52:10 GMT
Organization: UC Santa Cruz CIS/CE
I am looking for an on-line source for the DECT standards put out by
the European Telecomm Standards Institute (ETSI). Any information on
an FTP site or CD-ROM vendor for these would be very much appreciated.
Thank you,
Timothy A. Gonsalves, Associate Professor
Department of Computer Science and Engineering
Indian Institute of Technology
Madras - 600 036, India
(91) (44) 235-1365 x 3512 E-mail: tag@iitm.ernet.in
FAX: (91) (44) 235-2120
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From: c32dvj@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Donald V Johnson)
Subject: ANSI and Bellcore Telecom Specs Wanted
Organization: Delco Electronics Corp.
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 17:51:06 GMT
A friend of mine -- his name is Dave -- is looking for on line
documentation for ANSI and Bellcore telecom specs. If anyone knows of
any sites with such documentation please email him at:
scheer@lts.sel.alcatel.de
You may also e-mail to me and I will forward to him, but direct is
obviously preferred. Since I do not regurlarly read this newsgroup, I
will not see any followup postings, so please e-mail.
Thank you,
Donald V. Johnson
Delco Electronics Corp.
c32dvj@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com
The REAL Don Johnson (not some actor who stole my name!)
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From: jrefling@rosslare.ece.uci.edu (John Refling)
Subject: KERMIT Through an Intermediate Telnet Node? How?
Date: 29 Jun 1994 23:22:19 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Here's the situation:
+-----+ +---------+ +-----------+
| PC | - phone----> | UNIX BOX| -- INTERNET-->| UNIX BOX |
+-----+ +---------+ +-----------+
Now, after you dial the first unix box over the phone and are logged
in, you telnet to the second unix box. On the second unix box, you
start kermit to server mode. Then you escape back to the pc and try
to transfer files and the whole thing dies.
I can sort of see why things won't work -- maybe the boxes get
confused over where thier input is coming from ... then again it's not
a problem normally.
Is there a way to get this to work?
Thanks in advance.
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From: mcampbe8@mason1.gmu.edu (Matthew B Campbell)
Subject: Telex Information - Good Sources Wanted
Date: 30 Jun 1994 13:08:39 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Hello,
I am working on a project that involves controlling Telex lines within
a larger network control system. I know a little about Telex, but I
really need to know what to listen for on each side ("marks", and
"spaces", etc.), what these things look like psysically (80v burst =
"mark"?), and possibly information on what type of devices would be
ideal for listening to the Telex channels, as well as controlling the
"make or break" for each call.
Any help, or references would be great!
Matt Campbell Senior Engineer
Synergistic Technologies, Inc.
------------------------------
From: mckeever@vax2.cstp.umkc.edu (Brian McKeever)
Subject: IEEE Infocom '95 Announcement
Date: 29 Jun 1994 15:17:20 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City, CSTP
Reply-To: mckeever@vax2.cstp.umkc.edu
IEEE INFOCOM'95
The Conference on Computer Communications
Bringing Information to People
April 2-6, 1995 Boston, MASS., USA
CALL FOR PAPERS
Fourteenth Annual Joint Conference of the
IEEE Computer and Communications Societies
Sponsored by the Computer Communications Technical Committees of the
Societies.
Authors are invited to submit full papers on recent advances in computer
communications. Areas of interest include, but are not limited to:
Gigabit Networks Congestion Control
Internetworking (LAN/WAN) Switch Architectures
ATM Wireless Networks
Video Communications Protocols for High-Speed Networks
Personal Communication Systems Network Management
Protocol Design and Analysis Distributed Network Algorithms
Network Design and Planning Computer Security and Privacy
Photonic Switching Lightwave Networks
Broadband ISDN Network Reliability
Routing and Flow Control Multimedia Protocols
Scheduling Testbeds and Measurements
Network Standards Multimedia Terminals and Systems
Traffic Management Multiple Access
Signaling and Control Network Restoration
SCHEDULE
Full Paper (6 Copies, Double Sided Preferred) - August 1, 1994
Notification of Acceptance - November 1, 1994
Camera Ready Copy - January 13, 1995
Conference - April 4-6, 1995
Tutorials - April 2-3, 1995
General Chair: Jeffary M. Jaffe
Technical Chairs: Aurel Lazar and Khosrow Sohraby
Submit six double-spaced, double sided copies of the manuscript to:
Prof. Khosrow Sohraby, Technical Program Co-Chair, IEEE INFOCOM '95
CSTP, University of Missouri-Kansas City
5100 Rockhill Rd., Kansas City, MO 64110
Email: infocom@cstp.umkc.edu, Telephone: (816) 235-2361
Fax: (816) 235-5159 (FAXED SUBMISSIONS WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED)
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From: sonicnet@panix.com (Michael Hauben)
Subject: Need to Hook a Unix machine to a BBS on a PC
Date: 30 Jun 1994 12:27:38 -0400
Organization: SonicNet BBS
We are in the process of renting a T1-Leased Line in order to connect
our BBS, SonicNet, to the Internet. In order to do this we are in the
process of purchasing a Unix machine in order to connet to the
incoming T-1 line. What I do not know how to do is how to connect the
Unix machine to my PC. SonicNet runs on a 486/66 PC using the TBBS
software. We currently have 8 phone lines connected via modems to a
multiport Digiboard serial board.
At this point I am unsure how I will connct the unix machine, which
will support multiple telnet sessions, to the serial ports on the PC
Digiboard. Of course we will be expanding the number of serial lines
on the PC once we solve this problem.
What I need is to somehow convert the incoming telnet connections on
the unix machine into an RS-232 line on the BBS PC. Ideally it would
be like connecting two serial ports via null modem cables.
Others have suggested that I install an ethernet card to the PC
running the bbs, but then I would be unsure how to redirect the
incoming IP packets to the TBBS software.
Also someone else suggested hooking up the unix machine up to a
terminal server and the serial lines to the lines from my digiboard.
The problem is that I know very little about the terminal servers, and
less who to purchase them from.
Can anyone offer any suggestions on how to deal with my problem? I
would also be interested in how other TBBS sysops have hooked their
BBS's up to the Internet for telnet access.
Thanks!
Michael
------------------------------
From: crooksie@aol.com (CROOKSIE)
Subject: CONVERSANT Problem - Help!!!
Date: 28 Jun 1994 20:57:01 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Help Help Help!!!
Relaying problem from TELECOM TECH SUPPORT (hope I got message right)
- they cant seem to resolve - have ORACLE Server (Remote MAC
Database) feeding a CONVERSANT (MAP100 V4.0) script - CONVERSANT
accesses (queries) the ORACLE table - CONVERSANT needs to know what
ORACLE table structure is to maintain integrity - during power
surges, table structure dies as if ORACLE table was not defined - why
is this happening?
When power is restored, the structure should recover the table should
recover the ORACLE table information.
Any assistance would be appreciated from the net telecom "brain
trust".
------------------------------
From: Matthew Lucas <matt@telestrat.com>
Subject: Call For Participation: TeleStrategies' Internet '94 Conference
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 08:13:13 +0000
TeleStrategies' is hosting "Internet: The New Way To Publish, Market
and Advertise" on October 10-12, 1994 at the Sheraton Crystal City
Hotel in Arlington, Virginia.
The program will have both a conference and workshop track. The
conference track will focus on new opportunities for publishing,
advertising and marketing in the commercialized Internet. The
workshop track will feature tutorials and live demonstrations of
Internet applications, products and services.
We are soliciting those in the telecommunications industry who have
interest in demonstrating their products and services live on the
Internet to our attendees.
Approximately 450 people attended our March, 1994 program and we
expect attendance to be even higher in October. If you have an
Internet-based service or product and are interested in leading a
workshop/demonstration session or exhibiting, please call
TeleStrategies at (703) 734-7050.
For workshop and demonstrations, ask for Lynn Stern. For exhibit or
further information, ask for Jackie McGuigan.
Thank you,
Matthew Lucas TeleStrategies, Inc. (703 734-7050
------------------------------
From: gupta@prlhp1.prl.philips.co.uk (Ashok Gupta)
Subject: Workshop: User Interfaces of Communications systems
Date: 29 Jun 94 12:19:07 GMT
Reply-To: gupta@prl.philips.co.uk
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories, Redhill, UK
Workshop Programme
"User Interfaces of Communication Systems"
Workshop of Special Interest Group 2.1.2
"Interactive Systems"
German Computer Society (GI)
to be held
in Hamburg, Germany,
during the Annual Conference of GI
and IFIP-Congress'94
"Computer and Communications Evolution
- The Driving Forces -"
Wednesday, August 31, 1994, 14:00 - 17:30 pm
On the occasion of the 25th anniversary of the Gesellschaft fuer
Infor- matik, the German Computer Society GI, the 13th International
IFIP World Congress will be held in Hamburg, Germany, together with
the Annual Conference 1994 of the GI from August 28 through September
2, 1994.
In the settings of the Congress/Conference the German Special Interest
Group 2.1.2 of GI, "Interactive Systems", will organize in its 22nd
year of work a workshop "User Interfaces of Communication Systems"
covering topics related to the use of computer systems based on modern
communication technologies.
Modern communication technologies used in public digital networks or
distributed computer systems demand new requirements in user
interfaces of applications, both for network management organisations
and for network users. Specifically there exist problems in the
partly desired transparency of functional distribution, in explicit
network management by the user, as well as in the manner in which
users and system compo- nents cooperate in local and global networks.
The workshop concentrates on aspects of the user interface, rather
than the design, construction and running of networks themselves.
The workshop addresses problems and issues in such areas as electronic
mail and publication services, user interfaces to control and to
access scientific and other information networks, user interfaces of
communica-tion devices, and user interfaces in multi-user applications.
Examples to be covered are new interaction techniques for operating
telephones, user interfaces for wide-area networks, video-conferencing
in its different forms, tools and techniques for designing and
implementing multi-user applications, mobile computing, and knowledge-
based communication systems.
Relevant problems and vital issues of the computer and communication
evolution are addressed in this workshop -- two fields which continue
to grow together and influence each other in this decade and the next.
The papers to be presented deal with the human-computer interaction of
these existing and future computer-communication systems as seen from
different angles, presenting various views of the field.
Programme Committee: Coordinator:
K. Froitzheim, Ulm, Germany Prof. Dr. Gerd Szwillus
P. Gorny, Oldenburg, Germany Universitaet - GH -
H.-J. Hoffmann, Darmstadt, Germany Paderborn,
D. Jaepel, Zuerich, Switzerland FB Mathematik/Informatik
P. Schulthess, Ulm, Germany D-33095 Paderborn
G. Szwillus, Paderborn, Germany Phone intl+49+5251+60+2077
(Chairman) Fax intl+49+5251+60+3836
E-mail szwillus@uni-paderborn.de
Programme
Session 1 August 31, 14:00 - 15:30 pm Chair Prof. G. Szwillus
On the way to Knowledge-based Human-Computer-Human-Communication
R. Gunzenhaeuser, W. Dilly, M. Ressel
University in Stuttgart, Dept. of Computer Science
(in German)
Usage of Communication Services with Drag-and-drop Techniques
K. Froitzheim, P. Schulthess
University in Ulm, Unit Distributed Systems
(in German)
Adaptive User Interfaces for Electronic Net Services
H. Dieterich, M. Schneider-Hufschmidt, N. V. Carlsen
Siemens AG, ZFE ST SN 51, Munich
(in German)
Session 2 August 31, 16:00 - 17:30 pm Chair Prof. P. Schulthess
Interfaces for handling Multimedia Communication Systems
M. Zajicek, X. Cao, D. Shrimpton, A. Tagg, J. Lehuby,
D. Parish, P. Coventry, I. Phillips, J. Griffiths
Oxford Brookes University & Loughborough University of Technology
(in English)
Aspects in User Interface Design for Mobile Multi-user Applications
H.-W. Gellersen
University in Karlsruhe, Telecooperation group
(in German)
The Virtual Office as a User Interface for Cooperative Working
M. Sohlenkamp
Gesellsch. f. Mathematik und Datenverarbeitung (GMD),
Sankt Augustin
(in German)
Inquiries regarding the workshop to
Prof. Szwillus, Univ. Paderborn, szwillus@uni-paderborn.de
Inquiries regarding the IFIP Congress and the GI-Conference to
Prof. Wolfinger, Univ. Hamburg,
wolfinger@rz.informatik.uni-hamburg.d400.de
------------------------------
From: dave.leibold@superctl.tor250.org (Dave Leibold)
Subject: Recent BCI/Jones Intercable dealings
Reply-To: dave.leibold@superctl.tor250.org
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 94 00:41:00 -0500
[from Bell News, 27 June 1994; content is Bell Canada's]
BCI, Jones Intercable fine-tune deal
Bell Canada International Inc. (BCI), responsible for the international
telecommunications investments and telecommunications consulting
services for our parent company BCE, and Jones Intercable, Inc. of
Colorado, have formally completed and signed a share purchase and
shareholder agreement.
Closing of the transaction is expected by late 1994, subject to certain
conditions including the acquisition by Jones Intercable of the assets
of Jones Spacelink, Ltd.
The closing will include the following transactions:
* BCI will purchase newly issued Class A shares of Jones Intercable
for $206 million U.S., thereby increasing its total investment in
Jones to $261 million U.S. for a 30 per cent interest.
* BCI will purchase from Jones International, Ltd. and Glenn Jones an
option worth $52 million U.S. for a controlling interest in Jones
Intercable, exercisable in the future.
* BCI will invest $35 million U.S. in other assets of Jones
International, including Jones Lightwave, Ltd., a competitive access
telecommunications service provider; Jones Education Networks, Inc.,
which operates the only distance network on basic cable television
offering academic degree programs; and Jones Entertainment, Ltd.,
which acquires, produces and distributes original film and television
entertainment programming.
Jones Intercable, Inc. is one of the largest cable television
operators in the United States. It is also the world's largest cable
television management company, managing cable operations for publicly
held entities. It manages operations in 20 states and three
countries.
------------------------------
From: dave.leibold@superctl.tor250.org (Dave Leibold)
Subject: Tele-Direct Comes to Hong Kong
Reply-To: dave.leibold@superctl.tor250.org
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 94 00:41:00 -0500
[from Bell News, 27 June 1994; content is Bell Canada's]
Hong Kong fingers will do the walking through BCE's pages
Tele-Direct (Publications) Inc., our sister subsidiary in the BCE
family, has formed a joint venture with Hongkong Telecom CSL to
provide white pages and Yellow Pages directories for Hong Kong.
Total revenue anticipated over the 10-year period of the agreement is
US $1 billion.
"The Hong Kong directories market is one of the fastest-growing in
the world, and the association with Hongkong Telecom opens
opportunities in southeast Asia and in the People's Republic of
China," said Thomas Bourke, president and chief executive officer of
Tele-Direct and group vice-president, Directories, of BCE.
Tele-Direct will provide general management services and technical
support to the joint-venture company, which will have a staff of some
200 employees.
The Hongkong Telecom Group is currently the territory's sole provider
of fixed telephone services, with some three million telephone
exchange lines and a growing presence in the People's Republic of
China. The company is 57.5 per cent owned by Cable and Wireless plc,
the international telecommunications company.
BCE and Cable & Wireless are also partners in two companies in the
United Kingdom, Mercury Communications Limited and Bell Cablemedia
Limited.
------------------------------
From: dave.leibold@superctl.tor250.org (Dave Leibold)
Subject: The Telco as Broadcaster?
Reply-To: dave.leibold@superctl.tor250.org
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 94 00:41:00 -0500
[from Bell News, 27 June 1994; content is Bell Canada's]
Telcos to enter the broadcasting business?
Canadian telephone companies would be able to hold broadcasting
licences if the recommendations of a confidential report of the
federal government are enacted.
The report, prepared by the Industry Department, was obtained by the
press under the Access to Information Act.
Also recommended in the 12-page report entitled: The Cable and
Telephone Networks: Proposals for a New Policy Approach is a
revamping of the Bell Canada Act that presently prohibits us [Bell
Canada] from holding a broadcasting licence.
------------------------------
From: Jim Burkitt <CCMAIL.JBURKITT@A50VM1.TRG.NYNEX.COM>
Subject: SONET/SDH Comparision TR Available From Committee T1
Date: 29 Jun 1994 08:49:08 GMT
From: Committee T1
Contact: Jim Burkitt, T1X1 Chair
(914) 644-5075
ccmail.jburkitt@nynex.com (Internet)
Subject: Technical Report on Comparison of SONET and SDH
Committee T1 has just published a new technical report, "A Comparison of
SONET (Synchronous Optical NETwork) and SDH (Synchronous Digital
Hierarchy)." This technical report, Report #36, documents the differences
between SONET and SDH as described in the applicable standards pertaining
to the two hierarchies.
SONET and SDH are compatible but not identical digital hierarchies.
Though both define similar sets of overheads and functions, there are
differences in the usage of the two overhead structures. The purpose of
this technical report is to identify the areas where SONET and SDH
differ:
- in overhead/format definition, and
- in usage/interpretation of overheads.
Once the differences are clearly identified, it is possible to assess
the appropriate actions to be taken to insure smooth interworking
between networks based on the two hierarchies.
Committee T1 is sponsored by the Alliance for Telecommunications
Industry Solutions (ATIS) and is accredited by the American National
Standards Institute (ANSI). Copies of Report #36 can be purchased
from ATIS or a postscript version can be obtained by anonymous ftp
from test.t1bbs.org (192.187.216.3) using the file name:
/pub/techrpts/tr.0/tr-36.zip
------------------------------
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "NetWare Troubleshooting" by Hader
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 03:08:46 MDT
BKNTWTRB.RVW 940414
Addison-Wesley Publishing Company, Inc.
Heather Rignanesi, Marketing, x340, 73171.657@Compuserve.com
P.O. Box 520
26 Prince Andrew Place
Don Mills, Ontario M3C 2T8
416-447-5101 fax: 416-443-0948
or
Tiffany Moore, Publicity tiffanym@aw.com
Bob Donegon bobd@aw.com
John Wait, Editor, Corporate and Professional Publishing johnw@aw.com
Tom Stone, Editor, Higher Education Division tomsto@aw.com
Philip Sutherland, Schulman Series 74640.2405@compuserve.com
Keith Wollman, Trade Computer Group keithw@aw.com
1 Jacob Way
Reading, MA 01867-9984
800-822-6339 617-944-3700
Fax: (617) 944-7273
5851 Guion Road
Indianapolis, IN 46254
800-447-2226
"Netware Troubleshooting", Hader, 1991, 0-201-57737-2, U$34.95/C$44.95
The format of the book is a combination of problem orientation,
listing problems with explanations and solutions, and a general
didactic approach. The format varies with the topic under discussion.
In general, the problem outline method is most useful, and would be
very helpful to those who are beginning to use or manage NetWare
systems. The additional material can be used as reference as the new
administrator grows into the task.
The material covers a broad range of topics. File server optimization
deals with memory, configuration, internal bridges and file attributes.
Workstation topics discuss the shell configuration files, and logging
in. Application software discussions are limited to Lotus 1-2-3 and
WordPerfect, unfortunately. There is also coverage of security,
printing and management.
Overall, the material is well written, but it does fall down in places.
In particular, tables, figures and examples often are poorly chosen or
designed for illustrating the points they are supposed to clarify.
Another example is the treatment of effective rights: although the
author states that this is a difficult subject and spends extra time
here, the concept is not presented in a clear and accurate manner.
A disk is included with a number of small, but potentially useful,
utilities. You will, however, have to read the whole book to find out
what is there and how to use it. There is no listing of the files
collected anyplace in the book. The programs are described (very
briefly) at points in the book where they address specific needs.
The book, published in 1991, is slightly dated and covers only the ELS
I, ELS II, Advanced NetWare, SFT and NetWare 386 versions. Many of
the problem scenarios, however, are common to all NetWare versions,
and address problems arising from the experienced DOS user unaware of
some of the DOS/Netware interactions. A useful guide for the
beginning sysadmin.
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1994 BKNTWTRB.RVW 940414. Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated newsgroups/mailing lists.
DECUS Canada Communications, Desktop, Education and Security group newsletters
Editor and/or reviewer ROBERTS@decus.ca, RSlade@sfu.ca, Rob Slade at 1:153/733
DECUS Symposium '95, Toronto, ON, February 13-17, 1995, contact: rulag@decus.ca
------------------------------
From: weisen@alw.nih.gov (Neil Weisenfeld)
Subject: Bell Atlantic Marketing
Organization: NIH Div of Comp Rsrch and Technology
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 16:59:02 GMT
Well, as many of you probably know, C&P Telephone in the Washington
D.C. area has recently dropped the C&P name and is now using Bell
Atlantic (Potomac?). Along with having Darth Vader welcome me to B.A.
on those rare occasions when I call directory assistance, I'm also
being assaulted by B.A. telemarketers who are trying to sell me extra
services. Now, here's the interesting part. For three mornings in a
row, they called me right after I called out to check my voice mail
before leaving the house. Of course this could be coincidence and
timing, but I'm wondering if the would (and if they could) set up a
system so that my number popped up in front of one of their telemarketers
shortly after I completed a call. This would practically ensure that
I was home to take their call.
Fortunately, three mornings of "late to work" as a response to "How
are you today?" has sent them away, but just out of curiousity, I'm
wondering: could they?, would they?, and do they? with regard to the
scheme I proposed above.
Regards,
Neil
------------------------------
From: James L. Yan <jingli@rahul.net>
Subject: Looking For 386DX 32bits Operating System
Organization: a2i network
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 21:37:57 GMT
I need suggestions concerning 386DX 32 bits operating system for PBx.
James L. Yan <jingli@rahul.net>
------------------------------
From: jspinnow@netcom.com (John Stewart Pinnow)
Subject: Outgoing Call Lockout, But Enabling it For One Call
Organization: Tmoh Research, Milwaukee, WI
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 04:14:23 GMT
Is there a feature on telephones which allows disabling outgoing
calls, but allowing an authorized person to call out like with a PIN?
We currently have a lock out on the phone and dial out via cell
phone, but is there away to do the above authorization type feature,
instead of racking up large cellular bills?
Thank you,
Tmoh Research Internet: jspinnow@netcom.com Phone: (414) 761-1537
John S. Pinnow jspinnow@world.std.com Disclaim: Opinions==Mine
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Most telcos allow toll-restriction on long
distance calls, where LD calls are denied entirely. There is a method
such as you describe where a PIN is required, but I don't know which telcos
have this and which do not. The best course of action would be for you to
get one of the call restriction devices from Radio Shack and install it
on your line. It can do exactly what you want in a variety of combinations
where dialing is concerned. A PIN is used to override the restrictions. It
can be mounted in a secure, obscure and out of easy reach place so that it
becomes (almost) tamper-proof. Inquire at your local Radio Shack. Another
vendor of similar equipment is Hello Direct at 1-800-HI-HELLO. PAT]
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TELECOM Digest Thu, 30 Jun 94 13:57:00 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 305
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
Cellphone Tracking and O.J. Simpson (Willis H. Ware)
O.J. Simpson and Telecommunications (Steve Bunning)
Calling Cards - IXC vs LEC (Aaron Woolfson)
GSM Countries (Juha Veijalainen)
3Com MIB(s) Sought (Paul Ferguson)
Call Back w/X25, Direct Dialers (Martin Varsavsky)
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From: Willis H. Ware <Willis_Ware@rand.org>
Reply-To: willis@rand.org
Subject: Re: CELLFONE TRACKING
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 94 10:32:44 PDT
PAT: As requested ...
The recent "Freeway Chase" of O.J.Simpson's white Ford Bronco has
brought into public consciousness the issue of whether a cellular
telephone network is technically able to track a subscriber's handset
and report its physical location.
The {Los Angeles Times} published an article stating that the
cellphone system had been used to track the vehicle. On the other
hand, local TV stations also interviewed the young couple who, on
their way to the beach, had visually sighted the car and used a
roadside emergency phone to report it to authorities. The role of the
cellular provider or its technical ability to track is not wholly
clear; but on the basis of all the facts that appeared in local media,
it does seem clear that the vehicle tracking was largely visual, not
electronic. In fact later in the chase, the driver reported where he
was and when he intended to make turns off/on the freeway network.
The first technical observation would appear to be that a handset is
either handling a call, is on standby, or is switched off. If the
last, it must be invisible to the network. In standby, there must be
some periodic communication between handset and the network -- perhaps
polling, perhaps challenge and response -- that allows the cellphone
net to know in which cell an active or standby handset is presently
located. Otherwise the network could not know to which cell to direct
an incoming call, or to hand off an outgoing call from one cell to the
next as the handset moves from cell to cell.
Therefore, one readily concludes that the cellphone network can track a
unit to its current cell location and from cell to cell. Presumably,
such location information could be available to the system operators
as a matter of routine oversight of the system, to the creation of
operational records and audit trails, and to billing records. So the
cellular operator, AirTouch in this case, could probably report to
authorities which cell the Bronco currently occupied.
Probably, the present-cell-location information is available within
the network whether the handset is active or in standby.
As a matter of legalities, the {Los Angeles Times} article did say
that the provider -- AirTouch -- had been "subpoenaed to cooperate"
and it did also say that a wiretap court order had been obtained. The
subpoena was probably to cover what is known as "transaction records"
which in a cellular system might include location information but
certainly caller and callee numbers and billing information. The
wiretap order would be required to monitor and record the content of
the calls.
Next, however, there is a point of technical uncertainty. At
cell-phone frequencies, the antennas are usually made up of multiple
elements in order to get the desired azimuthal coverage and to avoid
wasting energy by confining the transmitted energy to the desired
service area, which for cellphones transmitters probably is a roughly
round flat saucer of radiation. There would be no point in wasting
energy by squirting it straight overhead or to unusually high angles.
It is well known that broadcast transmitters -- AM/FM/TV -- control the
radiation pattern of their antennas to maximize the transmitted energy
into the service area.
But, does a cellular transmitter control and manipulate the individual
antenna elements for each transmission in order to maximize the energy
directed toward the handset of interest? Is the phasing among the
many elements adjusted dynamically to point a given transmission
toward a handset and to track its motion? Are there even multiple
transmitters so that individual calls can be assigned to particular
antenna beams? Or is there a single transmitter that is used for all
calls concurrently in progress and that deals with the multiple
elements of the antenna as a single composite entity that has a fixed
radiation pattern adapted to its particular location?
In the present state of electronics, multiple transmitters and dynamic
electronic beam pointing would be easily achieved. But how has the
system been designed?
If angular adjustment is indeed utilized for each transmission, then
two cell sites that can hear the transmission could, in principle,
function as a form of triangulation, and tracking could be more
precise than just "the handset is in cell xx". IF angular positioning
of the transmitted beam for a given call-in-progress is indeed used,
then it's a collateral question of whether such information can be
extracted from the system by its operational personnel.
The Times article quoted a security consultant from Houston TX as
saying that triangulation had been used by the authorities and that it
had also been used to track down a drug figure in Columbia. In the
latter case, I can imagine the DEA and other authorities having high
quality triangulation equipment, but it would seem unlikely that local
law authorities would. So if the triangulation story is correct, then
it must follow that the cell transmitters themselves are able to
provide some level of triangulation.
What are the technical facts about the cellphone network, its ability
to track, and its ability to report location?
Willis Ware Santa Monica, CA
------------------------------
From: Steve Bunning <sbunning@DGS.dgsys.com>
Subject: O.J. Simpson and Telecommunications
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 14:24:16 EDT
In TELECOM Digest, Tue, 28 Jun 94, Volume 14, Issue 301, David Cantor
comments "Frankly, I don't see what the O.J. Simpson case has to do
with telecommunications ...". How about the use of scanners to
monitor cellular phone calls?
I caught a few minutes of coverage as Simpson was being driven down
the expressway. As the TV screen showed the vehicle, a graphic on the
screen said something about a "scanner" report. The person reporting
proceeded to reveal who Simpson had just called and a summary of their
phone conversation. At least they didn't patch it directly on air.
As has been said in the Digest before, don't count on your cellular
phone calls being private.
------------------------------
From: awoolfso@uop.edu (Aaron Woolfson)
Subject: Calling Cards - IXC vs LEC
Date: 30 Jun 1994 02:05:31 -0700
Organization: University of the Pacific
I have a question ... it sort of is something I need to think about
here at Delta Telecommunications, since we will be issuing calling
cards.
What happens if your 1) AT&T card, 2) Pacific Bell card, and 3) Sprint
card all have the same number on them -- i.e. for instance, my pacific
bell card may be 209 956 4765 1111 and AT&T may be 209 956 4765 2222
and my Sprint may be 209 956 4765 3333. However, what happens when
they are all the same number, including PIN, and I make a call over
AT&T or Sprint. Does the respective IXC card get charged to, or does
the Pacific Bell LEC card get charged to, or what?
Thanks. Any information would be extremily helpful.
Aaron Woolfson (awoolfso@unix1.cc.uop.edu)
------------------------------
From: juha.veijalainen@compart.fi (Juha Veijalainen)
Subject: GSM Countries
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 94 08:16:00 +0200
Organization: ComPart BBS - Helsinki, Finland - +358-0-506-3329 (V.32bis)
Here's a list of some (if not all) countries and operators using GSM.
It's interesting to note that all continents, except America, have GSM
networks.
When is USA, for example, going to catch up ;-)
Information is from 'GSM 940 - Roaming guide for countries and
networks serving Telecom Finland's GSM customers 1994'.
AUSTRALIA
MOBILNET
AUSTRIA
E-NETZ
BELGIUM
MOB-3
DENMARK
TDK-MOBIL
SONOFON
ESTONIA
TELE FIN (Telecom Finland)
FINLAND
TELE FIN (Telecom Finland)
(RADIOLINJA)
FRANCE
FRANCE TELECOM
SFR
GERMANY
TELEKOM D1
D2 PRIVAT
GREAT BRITAIN AND N.IRELAND
VODAFONE
GREAT BRITAIN
CELLNET
GREECE
PANAFON
SET HELLAS
HONGKONG
TCSL GSM
SMARTONE
HUNGARY
PANNON
WESTEL 900
IRELAND
EIRCELL-GSM
ITALY
SIP
LATVIA
LMT GSM
LIECHTENSTEIN (Switzerland network)
NATEL D GSM
LUXEMBOURG
LUXGSM
MONACO (France network)
FRANCE TELECOM
SFR
THE NETHERLANDS
PTT TELECOM
NEW ZEALAND
<no network name in list>
NORWAY
TELE-MOBIL
NETCOM GSM
PORTUGAL
TELEMOVEL
TELECEL
SINGAPORE
ST-GSM-SGP
SOUTH AFRICA
TELECOM SA
SPAIN
TELEFONICA
SWEDEN
TELIA MOBILTEL
COMVIQ
EUROPOLITAN
SWITZERLAND
NATEL D GSM
TURKEY
PTT/TURKCELL GSM
PTT/TEKNOTELL
Prices vary a lot. Cheapest prices are in Scandinavia (Finland and
Sweden). Operators may charge 0 - 15 % roaming charge. Some operators
charge by second, some by other 'units'. When roaming, you'll also pay
a surcharge for received calls (from 0,75 FIM/min in Scandinavia to
9,75 FIM/min in Hongkong).
New GSM networks are also planned for at least: Russia (St.Petersburg),
second network for Estonia, Arab Emirates.
Juha Veijalainen Helsinki, Finland
tel. +358 40 500 4402
------------------------------
From: paul@sprintlink.net (Paul Ferguson)
Subject: 3Com MIB(s) Sought
Date: 30 Jun 1994 14:15:45 GMT
Organization: Sprint Managed Network Engineering
Reply-To: paul@hawksbill.sprintmrn.com
Does anyone know an FTP site where I can find the 3Com MIBs's for the
following:
<3Com NetBuider II>
SW/NBII-FF,7.0
X25 - 3.2
Frame Relay - 2.0
CLNP - 2.0
nb2 REM: 1.0.5
Copyright 1985-1994, 3Com Corporation
<3Com NetBuilder-Remote Office>
SW/NBRO-BA,7.0
SPMON Version 1.0.2
Copyright 1985-1994, 3Com Corporation
An archie search doesn't provide anything useful.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Please respond via e-mail
to <paul@hawk.sprintmrn.com>.
Thanks,
Paul Ferguson US Sprint
Managed Network Engineering tel: 703.904.2437
Herndon, Virginia USA internet: paul@hawk.sprintmrn.com
------------------------------
From: martinvars@aol.com (MARTINVARS)
Subject: Call Back w/X25, Direct Dialers
Date: 30 Jun 1994 09:59:02 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Does anybody know of a platform to recommend to interface a call back
system with X25 messaging?
Does anybody have a platform to recommend that provides Call Back
service with voice recognition, voice mail and fax mail interface,
call back with greeting, ability to network different call back
switches in different countries, multicurrency billing?
Does anybody know what are the best dialers that can be installed at
the clients premises so the client dials normally and these dialers
request the call back and dial without the client being aware of it?
These dialers should be able to be programmed from the switching
center.
Martin Varsavsky Viatel, NYC.
------------------------------
From: grstone@delphi.com
Subject: Request Info: Distinctive Ring Phone Line Switches
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 94 02:03:48 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
I want a BBS to answer on distincitive ringing, and to no other
incoming calls with standard ringing. COMSHARE 450 costs $89 but has
other bells and whistles I don't need.
Anyone know of a simpler, cheaper product that does this?
Oh, yes, the BBS is MAC.
Thanks.
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From: pegges@teal.csn.org (Paul L. Egges)
Subject: Connecting a Sound Card to a Telephone Line
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 16:44:45 GMT
Has anyone ever connected a sound cards input to a telephone line (via
the speaker wires on modem preferably)? Does anyone know of a device
sold for doing this (I'm feeling lazy and would rather not design
anything).
Thanks,
Paul L. Egges
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From: jas@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Jan Schiefer)
Subject: Mobile Phone Cabling (was: "Re-readiating" Car Cellular Antennas)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 17:57:39 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, England
John Gilbert (johng@ecs.comm.mot.com) wrote:
> for by the 3 db of gain the outside antenna provides.
> Use a cable between the radio and the outside antenna. You will have much
> better results.
Just wondering: What cables do the people fitting mobile phones normally
use? When the phone operates at 900MHz or even 1.8GHz, you could have
much more cable loss than 3dB, for a roof-mounted aerial. And how many
people are prepared to shell out real money for high-quality cable?
And then there is the toy-coax-connector-on-bottom-of-handset problem.
I guess a lot of people experience that the built-in aerial works much
better than the 'professionally fitted' car-mount one.
Cheers,
Jan Schiefer, g0trr, jas@hplb.hpl.hp.com,
HP Labs Bristol, UK. +44 272 228344
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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 14:46:34 EDT
From: CTDN53B@prodigy.com (MS SANDRA M LEVY)
Subject: Need KSUless Music On Hold Adaptor
A prospective customer has a simple two-line telephone and no KSU.
He'd like to have us custom-create an informational tape for his
callers on hold.
Last I heard Radio Shack had a dandy little Music On Hold adaptor for
up to two lines for right around $50. They've discontinued the product.
Does anyone know where I can find a device that will allow a KSUless
phone with a hold button to deliver audio when the hold button is pushed?
Please answer to CTDN53B@prodigy.com.
Thank you,
Sandra (call me Sam) Levy
Ideas On Hold
4300 NW 23rd Ave., Suite 299
Gainesville (home of the student murders, and today a toxic chemical cloud
due to an accident -- oh, what a city!;) FL 32614-7050
Vox 1-800-879-4332 Fax 1-904-367-8339.
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There are a lot of Radio Shack people who
read this Digest; maybe one or more will find the product you are seeking
in their left-overs and discontinued products department in their stores.
Regards Gainesville being such a bad place to live, all we here in Chicago
should have to deal with are a few students murdered now and then plus
toxic chemical clouds once in a while. We typically have three or four
murders per day here; 1994 is running well ahead of previous years-to-date
in that category. Violence is rampant all over the United States but it
is worst in the large urban areas, with Chicago one of the leaders. You
wanna move here and I will move there? Its all quite relative, you see.
At least I was able to move out of Chicago permanently several months ago
and it is a lot more peaceful here where I live now, albiet harder than
ever to pay the bills living at the edge of Skokie/Wilmette. PAT]
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From: norleyc@pwfl.com (Chris Norley)
Subject: Voice-to-Text Answering Board
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 94 13:11:31 EDT
I am looking for an answering machine that will provide voice-to-text
capability. Is there such a beast available?
I will summarize the answers that are sent to me.
Thanks in advance,
Chris Norley norleyc@pwfl.com
Advanced Materials phone: 407-796-6561
Powdered Metal, Anyone? O/V (Profs) : norleyc
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 94 09:35:26 EST
From: Alex Cena <acena@lehman.com>
Subject: BAM's Digital Footprint
Does anyone know how widespread Bell Atlantic's digital cellular
service is in its major markets such as Washington DC and Philadelphia?
In addition to service quality and availability, I am also interested
in finding out what percent of cell sites contain digital radios.
Regards,
Alex
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From: broy@k12.ucs.umass.edu (Brandon Roy)
Subject: Programming Help Needed With Tandy CT 1030
Reply-To: broy@k12.ucs.umass.edu
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 20:40:50 -0400
Can anybody out there give me any information about programming
this cellular phone? I'm pretty sure it can be programmed through the
handset. I have information about the equivilant Radio Shack model,
but apparently there are some differences. Thank you.
------------------------------
From: twc0@gte.com (Thomas W. Christoffel)
Subject: TDMA Phones RF Interference
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 15:06:15 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories Incorporated
Anyone heard about RF interference from TDMA cellular telephones
causing problems with automotive or medical electronics? Please send
replies to tchristoffel@gte.com.
Thanks.
------------------------------
From: mcdevitt@pip.oci.utoronto.ca (Laura McDevitt)
Subject: Digital Cellular Data Transmission
Organization: Ontario Cancer Institute, University of Toronto
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 09:41:03 GMT
Anyone familiar with digital cellular high-speed data transmission?
Specifically, I would like to hear about anyone's knowledge or experience
concerning its application for videoconferencing.
Please send your response to my e-mail address:
mcdevitt@oci.utoronto.ca
Thank you.
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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 94 12:20:21 EDT
From: Carl Moore <cmoore@ARL.MIL>
Subject: 811 Used For Business Office
Front Royal, Virginia is served by (703)635,636, and newer 622. I was
just down there, and found that it is served by Centel, and that 811
or an 800 number are used for the business office in Charlottesville.
Is the new Virginia area code public yet?
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From: ccuppern@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Cyndi Cuppernell)
Subject: Wanted: Comm System For Nursing Floor
Date: 30 Jun 1994 14:51:58 GMT
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
I work on a floor at a hospital. Currently we use an overhead page
during the days and evenings to communicate with nurses and others,
telling the person they have a phone call; need to come to the nurses'
station; asking that the person turn on a bedside call light, etc.
We're trying to find an alternative system. Other floors use vibrating
pagers, but we've heard that the pagers often break down.
What system can you recommend? What would be both the advantages and
the drawbacks of your system?
Please e-mail me if possible.
Thanks for your help.
Cyndi Cuppernell RN ccuppern@s.psych.uiuc.edu
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From: jamerd@nbnet.nb.ca (Don Jamer)
Subject: Re: Satellite Phone Wanted
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 12:29:54 GMT
Organization: NBTel
In article <telecom14.302.3@eecs.nwu.edu> John@VAX1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU
writes:
> Is there a phone on the market that can use a satellite (not a cell)
> to communicate? Some friends and I want to take a trip to where there
> are no phones (obviously) and no cells. We thought maybe we could
> rent a satellite phone, if possible.
Try "INMARSAT" (International Maritime Satellite), but boy! is it
expensive ! You might be better off with an HF SSB (high frequency
--3 - 30Mhz --, single sideband unit). They carry several thousand miles
and are regularly used in remote areas including barges on the Mississippi
(for long haul communications).
------------------------------
Subject: Re: Satellite Phone Wanted
From: kevin@realtyme.com (Kevin McConnaughey)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 94 18:30:48 EDT
Organization: Retrograde Motion BBS - Oakton, VA.
John@VAX1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU writes:
> Is there a phone on the market that can use a satellite (not a cell)
> to communicate? Some friends and I want to take a trip to where there
> are no phones (obviously) and no cells. We thought maybe we could
> rent a satellite phone, if possible.
There are a number of companies that make briefcase size portable
telephone earth stations. Scientific Atlanta comes to mind, I think I
recently saw an advertisement in a trade journal.
You will want to arrange for INMARSAT "M" or "B" service with a
service provider. The only two that I am aware of in the US are: IDB
Mobile and Comsat Mobile. Both have offices in Rockville, MD.
COMSAT has a promotional plan going with an introductory rate of about
$4.95/minute. The non-discounted rate is regularly $5.50. I always
get the two service names mixed up -- but they are both digital
services that compress voice and encode it on the digital carrier.
I think that you might be able to arrange to rent or lease a terminal
through either of these providers. It would probably be a good idea
since the terminals retail from $10,000 to $20,000.
In addition to voice service there is also the significantly less
expensive INMARSAT C teminals for low speed data. I am not sure what
sort of services besides TELEX are offered but I would assume that you
could get e-mail access. These terminals and the rates would be less
than the voice services but I don't know prices.
Regards,
kevin@realtyme.com (Kevin McConnaughey)
Retrograde Motion BBS - Oakton, Virginia +1-703-758-9084
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From: dnewcomb@whale.st.usm.edu (Donald R. Newcomb)
Subject: Re: Satellite Phone Wanted
Date: 29 Jun 1994 18:18:52 -0500
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Yep! We have a couple of them in my office. About the size of a small
suitcase. Has an umbrella-like dish antenna you set up and point at
the satellite. For some strange reason, they call this an 'Ultra-light'.
I guess the heavy-weight is van-mobile. I've been asking for training
on how to use them but it hasn't happened yet. As I remember they said
that the price was around $10K per unit (don't quote me on that.)
OBTW, calls are $10 per minute.
Donald R. Newcomb * University of Southern Mississippi
dnewcomb@whale.st.usm.edu
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From: pturner@netcom.com (Patton M Turner)
Subject: Re: Satellite Phone Wanted
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 01:53:15 GMT
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Wouldn't the ship to shore (or high seas)
> service work out in John's case? I am thinking of Marisat or Maristat?
> Can you get portable phones to carry around which use that service? PAT]
It's called INMARSAT and uses briefcase sized phones. Cost can be as
low as $5/min for the newest phones.
Ship to Shore is usually used to refer to the AT&T high seas HF service.
Patton Turner KB4GRZ pturner@netcom.com FAA Telecommunications
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From: robjan@rabo.nl (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: Satellite Phone Wanted
Date: 29 Jun 1994 13:14:08 +0100
Organization: Rabobank Nederland
There are "portable" phones that use Inmarsat. Not something you
carry in your pocket, but at least they are transportable. They
should work anywhere between ~ 75 degrees north and south.
However, the cost of calls is huge. The rent probably just as well.
So, this is only realistic for purposes like sponsored expeditions,
not for your average holiday trip ...
Rob
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From: Adam Gruen <0006449096@mcimail.com>
Subject: Some Random Thoughts From a Reader
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 14:47:00 EST
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through back issues than I could have ever hoped to glean from
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refugee from the Space Station program, so moving from aerospace to
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I find, by the way, that both fields have the same problem: translation
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Sidenote on the Simpson case, PAT. In the U.S. today, it's not
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Even the prospect of a justice system with no justice pales before the
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From: king@wildebeest.cig.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist)
Subject: Re: Cellular Phones and Lightning
Date: 29 Jun 1994 14:24:17 GMT
Organization: Motorola Cellular Infrastructure Group
Reply-To: king@cig.mot.com
shawnlg@netcom.com (Shawn Gordhamer) publicly declared:
> Someone told me that in a lightning storm, lightning can follow the
> radio waves given out by your cellular phone. I assume this is
> because the air is more ionized where the waves are strong. Is this
> true? Is it unsafe to use a handheld cellular phone in a lightning
> storm? I'm not talking about a mobile phone with a tall antenna.
Oh yes, it's absolutely true. In fact, this is where the real risk of
brain cancer lies. The cellphones don't directly cause it, but
getting hit by lighting is a *definite* cause of cancer. Even if you
don't feel it, you've probably been hit by a "microspark" if you've
ever used the phone during a lighting storm.
Cordless phones aren't an issue. As we all know (based on legal
rulings in the U.S.) cordless phones are broadcast emissions while
cellular phones are point-to-point between the phone and base station.
You can't get zapped while talking on a cordless phone for this
reason.
By the way, don't *ever* use a cellular phone in New Jersey. The Red
Lectroids from the Eighth Dimension can slip along the radio waves and
take over your brain. Ever see the movie "Buckaroo Banzai"? 'Nuff
said!
Okay, enough fun. No, lighting won't "follow the radio waves" back to
your phone. At least, I've never heard of that effect. I really doubt
that 600 mW of omnidirectional RF can ionize anything, let alone make a
more conductive path between the clouds and ground. It does make a nice
urban legend, though.
Steven King <king@cig.mot.com> -- Motorola Cellular Infrastructure Group
------------------------------
From: king@wildebeest.cig.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist)
Subject: Re: Cellular Phone and Tower Handshaking
Date: 29 Jun 1994 18:18:29 GMT
Organization: Motorola Cellular Infrastructure Group
Reply-To: king@cig.mot.com
shawnlg@netcom.com (Shawn Gordhamer) publicly declared:
> Sometimes when I turn my phone on, it doesn't bother talking to the
> tower at all. Sometimes, it transmits for a short period of time.
> But it usually does this once and not at set intervals. With this in
> mind, I have come up with the following theory about how a phone and
> tower keep track of each other. Someone please let me know if there
> is any truth in this.
Here's what goes on. This may be slightly inaccurate; I haven't needed
to look at the air interface spec for a number of years. Some of the
relevant brain cells have undoubtedly been recycled by now.
When you turn on your phone, it checks its memory to see if you're on
the "A" carrier or the "B" carrier. It then starts scanning the
signalling channels for the appropriate carrier to see which has the
strongest signal. (If it can't find a channel on the home carrier it'll
scan the other carrier's signalling channels, and then turn on the "No
Service" lamp if it still can't find anything.) The phone will
continually rescan the signalling channels to stay tuned to the
strongest one.
Depending on how your cellular system is set up, your mobile may have to
periodically register with the system. Keeping track of your mobile
saves effort when you have an incoming call -- the system can direct the
page instead of blasting it across all cells. Periodically the base
sites will send out a "registration check" command. This command
contains a time stamp. Your mobile remembers the last time it
registered and will re-register if it's past the registration period.
Typically systems will want the mobile to register once an hour or so,
but that's configurable by the cellular operating company.
If the mobile has been turned off for more than an hour, it will always
notice that it's past its registration time and will re-register. If it
has been turned off for less than an hour it will wait until the full
hour has elapsed before re-registering. This explains why your mobile
"sometimes" sends data to the cell on power-up.
The phone does *not* re-register each time it moves into a new cell,
just when the timer expires. The timers are set up on a per-system
basis. If you're moving along a corridor serviced by several companies
(say, a freeway between two cities) it will probably re-register when it
moves into a different system.
> When actually talking on my phone, the towers themselves must monitor
> my signal strength. I can hear my phone change frequencies quite
> often while I talk, even when I am just pasing around one room. The
> phone never transmits tower changes that often when it is not being
> used.
While you're talking, the cell signals your phone by blanking the voice
path and sending a burst of digital data on the same channel. You hear
this as a momentary blank spot in conversation. However, the only
things the cell should be telling your phone at this time are "go to
another channel" or "change your power level".
You shouldn't be handing off just walking around a room. There's some
hysterisis in the signal strength determination to keep mobiles in the
fringe between two cells from handing off back and forth rapidly. Ditto
for changing power levels. I don't know why you're hearing frequent
drop-outs while you're talking, but I suspect your phone (or the cell)
shouldn't be doing that. Can you borrow someone else's phone and test
it under the same conditions?
Steven King <king@cig.mot.com> -- Motorola Cellular Infrastructure Group
------------------------------
From: zanolla@agouti.cig.mot.com (Donald J. Zanolla)
Subject: Re: Motorola Digital Cellular Phone
Date: 29 Jun 94 18:00:58 GMT
Organization: Motorola Cellulsr Infrastructure Group
idp3286@hertz.njit.edu (Ian Daniel Plotkin) writes:
> Does anyone have any experience with Motorola's new Digital flip-fone?
> Is digital cellular as widespread as analog yet? The local carrier
> here in central NJ is Comcast/CellularOne. Does anyone know if NJ is
> covered by a digital network? While the other (analog) flipfones go
> for around $50 /w signon deal, is it worth it at this point in time to
> shell out the $300 or so (/w signon deal) for the digital phone? Any
> info would be appreciated!
NO, digital is not vary widespread, as yet; my guess would be about 5%
of the cellular services are digital.
If you are considering a digital phone then:
1 - Make sure it is a dual-mode phone; dual-mode phones will operate
as either digital or analog. When the phone powers-up in the default
mode (either digital or analog) it will look for service in that mode;
if there is no service available then it will search for service in
the other mode. This is important when you are out of your home
service area; the phone will be able to find you service in either
mode.
2 - The default mode is controlable by the phone user NOT the service
provider. This would be useful if you are not happy with the current
mode and YOU can change to the other mode to see if the service is
better there.
The cellular provides are pushing digital because it gives better call
security AND they can get more calls on the same piece of copper as
with analog.
Unless, the cellular provide is giving you much lower cost/minute as
compared to analog then probably you should stay with a analog phone.
Donald Zanolla zanolla@agouti.cig.mot.com
------------------------------
From: rupe@wombat.cig.mot.com (Bernard Rupe)
Subject: Re: Motorola Digital Cellular Phone
Date: 29 Jun 1994 15:31:29 GMT
Organization: Cellular Infrastructure Group, Motorola
In article <telecom14.302.6@eecs.nwu.edu> idp3286@hertz.njit.edu (Ian Daniel
Plotkin) writes:
> Does anyone have any experience with Motorola's new Digital flip-fone?
> Is digital cellular as widespread as analog yet? The local carrier
> here in central NJ is Comcast/CellularOne. Does anyone know if NJ is
> covered by a digital network? While the other (analog) flipfones go
> for around $50 /w signon deal, is it worth it at this point in time to
> shell out the $300 or so (/w signon deal) for the digital phone? Any
> info would be appreciated!
TDMA (digital cellular) is not as near wide spread as analog yet. In
fact, Ameritech has decided that TDMA does not meet its needs and so
will not deploy it. They are instead waiting for CDMA (a competing
form of digital).
The main user difference (ie. outside of the obvious operator
benefits) between digital and analog is that digital will maintain a
higher signal quality but will suddenly drop where analog would
continue the call with degraded signal quality. With a strong signal,
I don't think most people would notice much of a difference between
the two.
Motorola Cellular Infrastructure (I'm not offically speaking for the
company, but am just relaying information as I understand it) has
taken the position that CDMA is a superior technology to TDMA. We
will be deploying CMDA systems (ie. non-trial, full commercial) at the
beginning of next year. US West and AirTouch (formerly PacTel
Cellular) will be deploying CDMA.
I'm sure there are people around who would argue that TDMA meets all
of our needs. We may very well end up with both technologies being
widely deployed. One of them could also win out. In that case,
either TDMA or CDMA phones might be worthless four or five years from
now.
Bernie Rupe 1501 W. Shure Drive Room 1315
Motorola, Inc. Arlington Heights, IL 60004
Cellular Infrastructure Group +1 708 632 2814
rupe@cig.mot.com
------------------------------
From: jskene@news.delphi.com
Subject: Re: Motorola Digital Cellular Phone
Date: 29 Jun 1994 21:28:11 -0000
Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation
Digital cellular has several advantages over the older analog systems.
You will suffer much less congestion, typically have clearer voice,
and will not be susceptible to illegal phone taps from someone with a
Radio SHack scanner.
The extra cost may well be worth it if these are important issues to
you.
------------------------------
From: Greg Monti <gmonti@npr.org>
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 15:57:26 EDT
Subject: Re: Satellite Telephone Wanted
Here are manufacturers I know of that sell phones that can be used to
communicate on the worldwide Inmarsat system. In this business,
"portable" is a relative term. Ask what they have; they are getting
lighter and cheaper with time.
A demo I saw last week was of a 40 or 50-pound aluminum suitcase with
a phone and all transmit and receive electronics in it. To use it,
you must asssemble and deploy a "parasol" antenna made of metal fabric
and attach it to the RF electronics. The antenna is about 2 feet in
diamter when deployed. You must then find one of the four Inmarsat
satellites using approximate pointing instructions that are included.
At the frequency used, about 1.5 GHz, the beam width of a 0.6 meter
antenna is fairly wide so "finding" the spacecraft is not as hard as
it sounds. The antenna must still be peaked for best signal.
Once "commissioned" (given an account) with Inmarsat or a reseller,
the phone is assigned a seven-digit number and can make incoming and
outgoing calls. Outgoing calls are dialed 00 + country code + city
code + local number. Incoming calls to the phone are dialed as if
each Inmarsat satellite is its own "country". The country codes for
Inmarsat for the Atlantic Ocean region are 871 and 874 (I forget which
is east and which is west). The country codes for Pacific and Indian
Ocean regions are 872 and 873, maybe not in that order. Sort of like
old-fashioned "roaming" with cellular; you must know which market (in
this case, spacecraft) the phone is "in" to reach it.
The phones are in the $10,000 to $50,000 range each if bought new. I
have no idea if any of these companies have leasing programs. The
"air time" is between $8.00 and $10.00 per minute. But, hey, it will
work atop the Himalayas or on Gilligan's Island. Inmaresat birds are
geostanionary satellites and cannot be communicated with north of
about 83 N nor south of about 83 S latitude.
Battery not included. You either plug it in to 120 or 240 volts or
you bring a battery pack or maybe a motorcycle battery -- and some way
of charging it.
I understand that climbers who did one of the big mountains in Asia
hauled one of these things up there and called to report their success,
as well as -- presumably -- to retrieve their messages from voice mail
back home.
Mobile TeleSystems, Inc., 300 Professional Drive, Gaithersburg, MD 20879;
301 590-8500; fax 301 590-8558.
Olivia Communications Group, 1 Park Place, 621 NW 53rd Street, Boca Raton,
FL 33487-8211; 407 995-1422; fax 407 995-1499.
Mackay Communications, 300 Columbus Circle, Edison, NJ 08837; 908
225-0909; fax 908 225-2848.
Calian Communications Systems, Ltd., 300 Leggett Drive, Kanata, Ontario
K2K 1Y5 Canada; 613 592-3020; fax 613 592-3378.
Comsat Mobile Communications, 22300 Comsat Drive, Clarksburg, MD 20871; 301
428-2222; fax 301 601-5951.
GTE Government Systems, don't have address. Suggest starting with 1700
Old Meadow Road, McLean, VA 22102; 703 848-1000; fax 703 848-0004.
Greg Monti, Tech Mgr, FISPO, Distribution Division
National Public Radio Phone: 202 414-3343
635 Massachusetts Av NW Fax: 202 414-3036
Washington, DC 20001-3753 Internet: gmonti@npr.org
------------------------------
From: ssatchell@BIX.com (ssatchell on BIX)
Subject: Re: Another National N11 Code Request
Date: 30 Jun 94 06:19:17 GMT
Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation
Greg Monti <GMONTI@npr.org> writes:
> With 011 and 111 unavailable, and with 411 and 911 in use in most
> places, that leaves only six N11 codes unused (211, 311, 511, 611,
> 711, 811). 611, 811 (and if applications from newspepers are
> approved, 311 and 511) are already used in some places. The article
> notes that the FCC has opened a pleading cycle on the subject.
> Comments to the Commission are due Aug. 19. "Reply comments" are due
> Sept. 23.
There are some other common usages. 611 has been used extensively for
"repair servie", while "811" is used to reach the telephone office.
You find these in RBOCs as a rule.
------------------------------
From: ssatchell@BIX.com (ssatchell on BIX)
Subject: Re: Help on Dial Line Protection From Storms
Date: 30 Jun 94 06:24:38 GMT
Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation
mike_foltz@sgate.com writes:
> I am experiancing problems on our BBS and Internet dial-in lines when
> there is wicked lighting storms. We have a total of 30 lines both
> local and 1800 numbers all feeding Multitech a rack mount card cage
> with MT1432BR modems. On the RS-232 the modems feed a Shiva lan rover
> for ARA or a cisco CS-516 for Internet access. We also have other
> vendors modems such as Intel, ZyXel and Scout modems for testing, SLIP
> and fax services.
> I seems that the storms do most harm on the Multitech modems, but it
> appears not to bother the other modems. The past 2 storms i have had
> to reprogram the Multitechs most lost what they were originally setup
> with. Some did not recover even with reprogramming. I am able to
> connect but either get no data or just garbage.
> Is there some type of pads, isolators etc that can be used on the
> dialup lines to protect the modems from getting trashed and also let
> 14.4K rates pass? Is there guides to BBS or Modem installations that
> address this issue? I am a bit confused why the other modems didn't
> have problems? They have phone lines that come in over the same
> copper bundle that feeds the Multitechs.
Here are some tips: you can get surge suppressors which mount on 66
blocks. Punch down the lines from the telco onto the 66 block. The
surge suppressors then bridge the pair; connect the earth side to a
really good ground. (Indee, locate the 66 block near a very good
ground point to keep the ground wire short.)
Here's the trick: make sure you have AT LEAST 50 feet of inside wire
between your 66 block and the modems. 100 feet is better. If you
decide to use 100 feet but the distance between the 66 block and
modems is less, mount the wire on the wall in a serpentine manner,
keeping each run at least 6 inches apart.
The 66-block surge suppressors keeps the spikes down to a reasonable
level. The extra wire added enough distributed series inductance and
parallel capacitance that any spikes that *do* get through are
attenuated nicely.
The stuff to make this happen is available from Anixter and others.
------------------------------
From: lreeves@crl.com (Les Reeves)
Subject: Re: Who's That Voice?
Date: 30 Jun 1994 12:21:57 -0700
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest]
Jeffrey W. McKeough (jwm@student.umass.edu) wrote:
> After reading an interesting discussion in the archives about Jane
> Barbe, the former voice of the Bell System, the voice of the time in
> several cities, and of many Octel systems (at least those that have
> not upgraded to a Marsha Graham software release), I was wondering if
> anyone has any information about yet another of those famous voices.
> The woman in question has done many recordings including the
> ubiquitous AT&T carrier identification chime and calling card auto
> attendant, the EasyReach voice prompts, RBOC recordings (including
> NYNEX's return call/repeat call prompts, and the new "You must dial 1+
> the area code intercepts). I've always found it interesting to be
> able to put a name with a voice, so I thought I'd ask.
Her name is Pat Fleet.
Les lreeves@crl.com Atlanta,GA 404.874.7806
------------------------------
From: steve.bauer@boardwatch.com
Organization: Boardwatch Magazine
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 94 06:19:39 MST
Subject: Her Voice Comes in Warm and Clear (was Re: Who's That Voice?)
In TELECOM Digest 14, 302 the question was posed regarding who the
female voice is on many telephone systems.
Jeff,
You asked about who the female voice on phone systems was, well, I think I
have the answer. The following should answer any questions you may have.
HER VOICE COMES IN WARM AND CLEAR
Note: This article is reprinted with permission from the Associated Press.
OAKLAND, Calif.--Joan Kenley sometimes talks to herself, but that's
understandable. After all, millions of people listen to her.
Among other things, Kenley is the ubiquitous voice of Voice Mail,
Pacific Bell's computerized answering service that more businesses are
turning to instead of human operators.
When you pick up the phone at a hotel, Kenley could be on the other
end. She's the voice of Guest Messenger, a Sheraton Hotel chain
service similar to Voice Mail. Or you might hear her pear-shaped
tones rattling off the prices at computerized grocery store checkout
counters.
"I'm even the English-speaking voice on pay phones in Japan," said
Kenley, who is also the voice on software designer Northern Telecom's
Meridian Mail and the interstate long distance voice for several
companies, including Michigan and Ohio Bell.
One reason her voice is so popular is that the melody "tends not to go
away" and so allows sound technicians to mix old tapes with new ones.
If there is a criticism of her voice, it's that "it's too real."
"People can easily start talking to it, but that's a compliment as well."
She even does it herself.
Kenley said she was checking into a hotel recently "and when I picked
up the house phone I ended up talking to myself. It's kind of
spooky."
Kenley has done price-voicing for 50 grocery store chains. The
automated service sounds out the cost of an item when it is passed
over the checkout machine.
"My uncle in Cleveland was leaving a checkout where I say "thank you"
and he answered, "You're welcome, Joan," she said. Kenley, who has a
Ph.D. in psychology, said her big break came ten years ago when she
was contacted by University of California professor Forrest Mozer, who
developed a way to put the human voice on a computer chip. Mozer felt
the best way for humans to "interface" with computers would be
vocally. "He said he wanted a voice that was warm, but not too sexy,"
Kenley recalled.
Kenley says her work is "a kind of immortality." "A hundred years from
now, I'll be long gone. But my voice will still be going out into the
stratosphere saying, "Two dollars and fifty cents, please."
------------------------------
From: dfilkins@iastate.edu (Donald W Filkins)
Subject: Water Sensors For Equipment Rooms
Date: 30 Jun 1994 18:40:28 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA)
I work for the Iowa State University Telecommunications Dept. We have
several equipment rooms we would like to monitor for water intrusion.
I have only one product in mind so far (Dorlen Products Water Alert)
and would like to be able to evaluate a few more. So far none of our
equipment vendors has come up with an alternate source so any
additonal info would be helpful.
We already have autodialers in place to monitor door alarms and other
environmental parameters so all I require is a sensor with a contact
closure ( or open ) and the approprate power supply if the unit is not
battery powered. I would prefer some sort of ac or switch battery
powered device to avoid the hassle of periodically changing batteries.
Please post to this group or email me directly.
Thanks in advance,
Don Filkins
------------------------------
From: lreeves@crl.com (Les Reeves)
Subject: Personal PBX Construction Article
Date: 30 Jun 1994 12:11:17 -0700
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest]
The July issue of {The Computer Applications Journal} has a construction
article for a build-it-yourself personal PBX. The article describes
an eight-station PBX which uses standard 2500 type sets. The little
PBX is designed around industry-standard IC's, and uses solid
telephony design techniques. The controller is an 8031, and the
switching matrix is a M093 IC.
All the circuit elements of the PBX, such as the Ring Generator, Subscriber
Line Interface Circuit (SLIC), DTMF receiver and tone generator, are
described in detail. Even if you are not at all interested in building a
PBX, this article is an excellent tutorial on how they are designed.
Les lreeves@crl.com Atlanta,GA 404.874.7806
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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 16:35:37 +0000
From: US ACM, DC Office <usacm_dc@acm.org>
Subject: USACM Calls for Clipper Withdrawal
U S A C M
Association for Computing Machinery, U.S. Public Policy Committee
* PRESS RELEASE *
Thursday, June 30, 1994
Contact:
Barbara Simons (408) 463-5661, simons@acm.org (e-mail)
Jim Horning (415) 853-2216, horning@src.dec.com (e-mail)
Rob Kling (714) 856-5955, kling@ics.uci.edu (e-mail)
COMPUTER POLICY COMMITTEE CALLS FOR WITHDRAWAL OF CLIPPER
COMMUNICATIONS PRIVACY "TOO IMPORTANT" FOR
SECRET DECISION-MAKING
WASHINGTON, DC The public policy arm of the oldest and largest
international computing society today urged the White House to
withdraw the controversial "Clipper Chip" encryption proposal. Noting
that the "security and privacy of electronic communications are vital
to the development of national and international information
infrastructures," the Association for Computing Machinery's U.S.
Public Policy Committee (USACM) added its voice to the growing debate
over encryption and privacy policy.
In a position statement released at a press conference on Capitol
Hill, the USACM said that "communications security is too important to
be left to secret processes and classified algorithms." The Clipper
technology was developed by the National Security Agency, which
classified the cryptographic algorithm that underlies the encryption
device. The USACM believes that Clipper "will put U.S. manufacturers
at a disadvantage in the global market and will adversely affect
technological development within the United States." The technology
has been championed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the
NSA, which claim that "non-escrowed" encryption technology threatens
law enforcement and national security.
"As a body concerned with the development of government
technology policy, USACM is troubled by the process that gave rise to
the Clipper initiative," said Dr. Barbara Simons, a computer scientist
with IBM who chairs the USACM. "It is vitally important that privacy
protections for our communications networks be developed openly and
with full public participation."
The USACM position statement was issued after completion of a
comprehensive study of cryptography policy sponsored by the ACM (see
companion release). The study, "Codes, Keys and Conflicts: Issues in
U.S Crypto Policy," was prepared by a panel of experts representing
various constituencies involved in the debate over encryption.
The ACM, founded in 1947, is a 85,000 member non-profit
educational and scientific society dedicated to the development and
use of information technology, and to addressing the impact of that
technology on the world's major social challenges. USACM was created
by ACM to provide a means for presenting and discussing technological
issues to and with U.S. policymakers and the general public. For
further information on USACM, please call (202) 298- 0842.
=============================================================
USACM Position on the Escrowed Encryption Standard
The ACM study "Codes, Keys and Conflicts: Issues in U.S Crypto Policy"
sets forth the complex technical and social issues underlying the
current debate over widespread use of encryption. The importance of
encryption, and the need for appropriate policies, will increase as
networked communication grows. Security and privacy of electronic
communications are vital to the development of national and
international information infrastructures.
The Clipper Chip, or "Escrowed Encryption Standard" (EES) Initiative,
raises fundamental policy issues that must be fully addressed and
publicly debated. After reviewing the ACM study, which provides a
balanced discussion of the issues, the U.S. Public Policy Committee
of ACM (USACM) makes the following recommendations.
1. The USACM supports the development of public policies and
technical standards for communications security in open forums in
which all stakeholders -- government, industry, and the public --
participate. Because we are moving rapidly to open networks, a
prerequisite for the success of those networks must be standards for
which there is widespread consensus, including international
acceptance. The USACM believes that communications security is too
important to be left to secret processes and classified algorithms.
We support the principles underlying the Computer Security Act of
1987, in which Congress expressed its preference for the development
of open and unclassified security standards.
2. The USACM recommends that any encryption standard adopted by the
U.S. government not place U.S. manufacturers at a disadvantage in the
global market or adversely affect technological development within the
United States. Few other nations are likely to adopt a standard that
includes a classified algorithm and keys escrowed with the U.S.
government.
3. The USACM supports changes in the process of developing Federal
Information Processing Standards (FIPS) employed by the National
Institute of Standards and Technology. This process is currently
predicated on the use of such standards solely to support Federal
procurement. Increasingly, the standards set through the FIPS process
directly affect non-federal organizations and the public at large. In
the case of the EES, the vast majority of comments solicited by NIST
opposed the standard, but were openly ignored. The USACM recommends
that the standards process be placed under the Administrative
Procedures Act so that citizens may have the same opportunity to
challenge government actions in the area of information processing
standards as they do in other important aspects of Federal agency
policy making.
4. The USACM urges the Administration at this point to withdraw the
Clipper Chip proposal and to begin an open and public review of
encryption policy. The escrowed encryption initiative raises vital
issues of privacy, law enforcement, competitiveness and scientific
innovation that must be openly discussed.
5. The USACM reaffirms its support for privacy protection and urges
the administration to encourage the development of technologies and
institutional practices that will provide real privacy for future
users of the National Information Infrastructure.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 16:34:47 +0000
From: "US ACM, DC Office" <usacm_dc@acm.org>
Subject: ACM Releases Crypto Study
Association for Computing Machinery
PRESS RELEASE
Thursday, June 30, 1994
Contact:
Joseph DeBlasi, ACM Executive Director (212) 869-7440
Dr. Stephen Kent, Panel Chair (617) 873-3988
Dr. Susan Landau, Panel Staff (413) 545-0263
COMPUTING SOCIETY RELEASES REPORT ON ENCRYPTION POLICY
"CLIPPER CHIP" CONTROVERSY EXPLORED BY EXPERT PANEL
WASHINGTON, DC A panel of experts convened by the nation's
foremost computing society today released a comprehensive report on
U.S. cryptography policy. The report, "Codes, Keys and Conflicts:
Issues in U.S Crypto Policy," is the culmination of a ten-month review
conducted by the panel of representatives of the computer industry and
academia, government officials, and attorneys. The 50-page document
explores the complex technical and social issues underlying the
current debate over the Clipper Chip and the export control of
information security technology.
"With the development of the information superhighway,
cryptography has become a hotly debated policy issue," according to
Joseph DeBlasi, Executive Director of the Association for Computing
Machinery (ACM), which convened the expert panel. "The ACM believes
that this report is a significant contribution to the ongoing debate
on the Clipper Chip and encryption policy. It cuts through the
rhetoric and lays out the facts."
Dr. Stephen Kent, Chief Scientist for Security Technology with
the firm of Bolt Beranek and Newman, said that he was pleased with the
final report. "It provides a very balanced discussion of many of the
issues that surround the debate on crypto policy, and we hope that it
will serve as a foundation for further public debate on this topic."
The ACM report addresses the competing interests of the various
stakeholders in the encryption debate -- law enforcement agencies, the
intelligence community, industry and users of communications services.
It reviews the recent history of U.S. cryptography policy and
identifies key questions that policymakers must resolve as they
grapple with this controversial issue.
The ACM cryptography panel was chaired by Dr. Stephen Kent. Dr.
Susan Landau, Research Associate Professor in Computer Science at the
University of Massachusetts, co-ordinated the work of the panel and
did most of the writing. Other panel members were Dr. Clinton Brooks,
Advisor to the Director, National Security Agency; Scott Charney,
Chief of the Computer Crime Unit, Criminal Division, U.S. Department
of Justice; Dr. Dorothy Denning, Computer Science Chair, Georgetown
University; Dr. Whitfield Diffie, Distinguished Engineer, Sun
Microsystems; Dr. Anthony Lauck, Corporate Consulting Engineer,
Digital Equipment Corporation; Douglas Miller, Government Affairs
Manager, Software Publishers Association; Dr. Peter Neumann, Principal
Scientist, SRI International; and David Sobel, Legal Counsel,
Electronic Privacy Information Center. Funding for the cryptography
study was provided in part by the National Science Foundation.
The ACM, founded in 1947, is a 85,000 member non-profit
educational and scientific society dedicated to the development and
use of information technology, and to addressing the impact of that
technology on the world's major social challenges. For general
information, contact ACM, 1515 Broadway, New York, NY 10036. (212)
869-7440 (tel), (212) 869-0481 (fax).
Information on accessing the report electronically will be posted
soon in this newsgroup.
------------------------------
From: wollman@ginger.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman)
Subject: BOC Name Changes (was Re: Bell Atlantic Marketing)
Date: 30 Jun 1994 21:56:15 GMT
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
In article <telecom14.304.10@eecs.nwu.edu>, Neil Weisenfeld
<weisen@alw.nih.gov> wrote:
> Well, as many of you probably know, C&P Telephone in the Washington
> D.C. area has recently dropped the C&P name and is now using Bell
> Atlantic (Potomac?).
I don't recall seeing this in the Digest, so ... a few weeks ago, the
Rhode Island PUC announced that NYNEX would not be permitted to charge
customers for the costs associated with their marketing campaign to
get people to forget `New England Telephone'.
(Now, of course, this is a complete sham, since ratepayers end up
paying for everything anyway, but at least the RI PUC has got some
independent-minded people on it ...)
Garrett A. Wollman wollman@lcs.mit.edu
------------------------------
From: krazykev@panix.com
Subject: Cheapest Cellular Carrier in NYC?
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 18:31:54 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Hi,
Who has the cheapest rates for cellular calls in NYC? I am
considering getting a cellular phone. I already have the phone, so it
is just a question of who has the best deal.
If you could email me at: krazykev@panix.com
that would be great.
------------------------------
From: anl433!cimet@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com (Arieh Cimet)
Subject: Info on TDD Devices
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 02:18:57 GMT
I need information on how TDDs (Telecommunication Devices for the
Deaf) work. I have checked the Bellcore catalog and with the phone
company but have come up with very little.
In particular, I need to know the protocols, interfaces, speed, and
modulation types that such devices use. Also, if these devices have
been adapated for cellular use.
I would appreciate any pointers to standards, documents or any books
available on the subject. Thanks in advance for any response.
I. Arieh Cimet e-mail: cimet@comm.mot.com
Motorola ESMR Infrastructure phone: (708) 576-4565
1301 E. Algonquin Road fax: (708) 538-3472
Schaumburg, IL 60196
------------------------------
From: carlson@xylogics.com (James Carlson)
Subject: Re: KERMIT Through an Intermediate Telnet Node? How?
Date: 30 Jun 1994 16:40:43 GMT
Organization: Xylogics Incorporated
Reply-To: carlson@xylogics.com
In article <telecom14.303.11@eecs.nwu.edu>, jrefling@rosslare.ece.uci.
edu (John Refling) writes:
> Here's the situation:
> +-----+ +---------+ +-----------+
> | PC | - phone----> | UNIX BOX| -- INTERNET-->| UNIX BOX |
> +-----+ +---------+ +-----------+
> Now, after you dial the first unix box over the phone and are logged
> in, you telnet to the second unix box. On the second unix box, you
> start kermit to server mode. Then you escape back to the pc and try
> to transfer files and the whole thing dies.
> I can sort of see why things won't work -- maybe the boxes get
> confused over where thier input is coming from ... then again it's not
> a problem normally.
> Is there a way to get this to work?
The problem is most likely that either (1) one of those links isn't
transparent or (2) flow control is broken somewhere.
Start by making sure that the telnet is transparent. Break to the
telnet prompt and turn off the escape character:
set escape off
Then make sure that the rest of the line is transparent ...
James Carlson <carlson@xylogics.com> Tel: +1 617 272 8140
Annex Software Support / Xylogics, Inc. +1 800 225 3317
53 Third Avenue / Burlington MA 01803-4491 Fax: +1 617 272 2618
------------------------------
From: kmorrill@strauss.udel.edu (Kenneth J Morrill)
Subject: Re: KERMIT Through an Intermediate Telnet Node? How?
Date: 30 Jun 1994 14:58:00 -0400
Organization: University of Delaware
In article <telecom14.303.11@eecs.nwu.edu>, John Refling <jrefling@
rosslare.ece.uci.edu> wrote:
> Here's the situation:
> +-----+ +---------+ +-----------+
> | PC | - phone----> | UNIX BOX| -- INTERNET-->| UNIX BOX |
> +-----+ +---------+ +-----------+
> Now, after you dial the first unix box over the phone and are logged
> in, you telnet to the second unix box. On the second unix box, you
> start kermit to server mode. Then you escape back to the pc and try
> to transfer files and the whole thing dies.
I connect from home under the same circumstances. I found that the
zmodem protocol works for one file, but not for a batch of files. I
have been following the practice of uuencoding binary files and
capturing them as text files, then uudecoding them back to binaries.
I known that this is not the ultimate solution.
Ken Morrill <kmorrill@strauss.udel.edu>
------------------------------
From: jeffb@audiolab.uwaterloo.ca (Jeff Bamford)
Subject: Re: Bilingual Telephone Numbers?
Organization: Audio Research Group, University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 14:42:22 GMT
In article <telecom14.302.2@eecs.nwu.edu>, Andrew C. Green <ACG@dlogics.
com> wrote:
[Found a Caller I.D. box that was bilingual]
> Now, perhaps I'm missing something here, but I must admit I don't know
> how I would translate "Green, Andrew C." and "(312) 266-xxxx" into
> Spanish without the assistance of this thing. Clearly a bargain at
> twice the price!
Well, Call Display boxes here are bilingual (at least they are
from the telco). En francais the time is in 24 hour, the date is
obviously French. The message that you have new callers is in French,
albeit shortened (nouv appel) etc. However, if your box only
displayed name and number there would be no difference. If I had Call
Display I'd run the display in French just to get 24h times. Any
boxes have that choice?
Jeff Bamford jsbamford@uwaterloo.ca -- NeXT Mail welcome
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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 06:40:00 -0400
From: joharris@io.org (John Harris)
Subject: Re: Bilingual Telephone Numbers?
The customer is the person to decide if a product makes her/him feel
good. If a person's native tongue is Spanish, s/he may prefer to see
"Nueva Llamada" instead of "New Calls" on an alpha-capable display.
How much can a few bytes of ROM cost? It's just good design/marketing
to add low incremental cost features.
John O. Harris BEL-Tronics Ltd. Mississauga, ON
joharris@io.org (905) 828-1002
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From: melvin@netcom.com (Stephen Melvin)
Subject: Re: AT&T, Paris and Freedom
Organization: Zytek, Lda. - Paris
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 20:03:12 GMT
In article <telecom14.301.3@eecs.nwu.edu> JeanBernard_Condat@Email.France
Net.FR writes:
> Yesterday, I was invited to look at 'a sound sculpture for the Arc de
> Triomphe by Bill Fontana' in Paris.
I went down there today to check it out, actually I thought it was
pretty neat. This was not obvious from the blurb, but the speakers at
the observation level are transmitting *live* sounds picked up from
microphones around the city. For example there is a speaker labeled
"Cafe Les Deux Magots" through which you can hear dishes clattering
and people talking as you are looking out in the general direction of
that place. There are about 15 microphones in cafes, train stations,
etc. I think it's an interesting idea. The street level speakers are
transmitting ocean surf sounds. (NB: it costs FRF 31 (~USD 6) to go up
to the top).
> I invite all the reader of this message to appreciate during the next
> holidays in France, the Arc de Triomphe of Place de l'Etoile and to
> drink a beer on the Champs-Elysees without the poor Bill Fontana'
> sculpture and the English-written AT&T Direct Services publicity.
I don't understand your objection Jean-Bernard. I don't see this as
an AT&T publicity thing. They just funded part of it and their name
only appears in small letters at the bottom of the poster describing
the exhibit, I had trouble even finding it. So what if they have both
French and English descriptions, lots of exhibits in Paris do.
Steve Melvin melvin@netcom.com
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From: Daryl Gibson <DRG@du1.byu.edu>
Subject: Re: Bidding War For - Western Union ?!
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 19:36:09 MST
> Item in the Sunday paper says two companies, First Data Corp. and
> Forstmann Little & Co. are bidding for Western Union. First Data is
> described as an information-and-transaction-processing company that
> transfers money. Forstmann Little & Co. is a leveraged buyout firm.
> First Data bid $896 million, Forstmann Little bid $951 million, and
> First Data added $65 million to its bid. A bankruptcy court judge
> ruled friday that the company will be auctioned in September. (Get
> your bid in by Sept 2.)
Just a note on First Data. First Data is a fairly major firm these
days ... it was spun off of American Express a little over a year ago,
I believe; at any rate, if you send American Express money transfers
(as opposed to Western Union money transfers), you're dealing with
First Data. I believe I read something that said they were also the
company that was doing the 1-800-COLLECT operator work for MCI, but I
could be wrong. They are a big transaction processing firm, a large
telemarketing firm, and also do a huge amount of credit card transaction
processing for smaller banks. They also do American Express' billing, and
I believe have Amex Money Orders, as well.
American Express spun off the company as an independent entity; I
think it made First Data's bank customers rest easier, knowing that a
competing credit card company wasn't taking care of their customers;
Before the First Data spinoff, that put Amex in the unlikely position
of being one of the biggest issuers of Visa and Mastercards in the
United States.
And while I'm blathering on about Amex, I remember reading that as one
of the first ISDN sites, Amex wired their computers so that when an
agent in their Phoenix office answered the phone, they already knew
who it was on the other end, and had your account on their screen
(assuming you were calling from a number they knew, of course) they
had to ban their customer reps from picking up the phone and saying
"American Express ... how can I help you, Mr. Jones," because it was
bothering too many customers ...
Daryl
(801) 378-2950 (801) 489-6348
drg@du1.byu.edu 71171.2036@compuserve.com
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From: tmcreek@eos.ncsu.edu (Tobin M. Creek)
Subject: Re: Cellular Phones and Lightning
Date: 29 Jun 94 14:57:41 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University
shawnlg@netcom.com (Shawn Gordhamer) writes:
> Someone told me that in a lightning storm, lightning can follow the
> radio waves given out by your cellular phone. I assume this is
> because the air is more ionized where the waves are strong. Is this
> true? Is it unsafe to use a handheld cellular phone in a lightning
> storm? I'm not talking about a mobile phone with a tall antenna.
I call "Urban Legend" on this one. I doubt that that statement has
any scientific basis whatsoever.
If it does, then one of these days, my Motorola will go ZOT! and so
will I. :)
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TELECOM Digest Fri, 1 Jul 94 15:44:00 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 308
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
Maryland, Free Internet Access (Richard Layman)
Automatic HF Channel Allocation (S.A. Iskenderian)
Underseas Cable Data (Pat McClure)
Modem Test Equipment Wanted (Scott Platenberg)
Reasonably Priced In-State Calls? (Ed Gehringer)
Unitel Switched Ne a Little Early! (Jeff Bamford)
AT&T Keep In Touch (William J. Rehm)
17.5 No-Surcharge Travel Service: Details (Ed Gehringer)
New FTP Site/Test (Nate Zelnick)
Is There a Market For PC Voice Mail Developers Card? (Chris B. Sakkas)
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Last Laugh! OJ/Telecom-Related Commercials (Michael P. Deignan)
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From: Richard Layman <rlayman@cap.gwu.edu>
Subject: Maryland, Free Internet Access (fwd)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 12:14:06 EDT
Forwarded FYI to the Digest.
Richard Layman
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 18:03:28 LCL
From: "Kaplan, Dan" <dkaplan@CHIREADER.COM>
Subject: Maryland, Free Internet Access
For those of you who had not heard. The State of Maryland announced
earlier this week, that it would offer free Internet access to its
residents. Brian Reilly sent me the following Washington Post article
on the subject. This public announcement should act as a catalyst to
propel CCIA to the forefront of this issue in Chicago (Illinois), if
we react appropriately. We need your input on how to best capitalize
on this window of opportunity. Send comments to myself, Dan Kaplan at
DKaplan@ChiReader.com or (312)-828-0350 or to Brian Reilly
Reilly.21@nd.edu or (312) 868-4227. Looking forward to your input!
Copyright 1994 The Washington Post
The Washington Post
June 23, 1994, Thursday, Final Edition
SECTION: FIRST SECTION; PAGE A1
HEADLINE: Information Highway Without Tollbooths;
Maryland Is the First State to Offer Free Access to the Internet
BYLINE: Tabitha M. Powledge, Special to The Washington Post
Maryland next month will become the first state in the nation to
offer its residents direct connections to the Internet for free.
The Internet is the massive network of networks that connects an
estimated 20 million computer users by telephone lines to thousands of
electronic information storehouses worldwide.
At no cost except for a local phone call, state officials say, anyone
in the area with a computer and a modem will eventually be able to
connect with a state-run "gopher" site -- a computer that provides the
most popular tool to link up with some of the Internet's vast
resources. The mind-boggling array ranges from pictures of poultry
from Texas A&M University to the bagpipe archives of Dartmouth to a
definitive list of kosher restaurants in Sydney, to up-to-the-minute
Commerce Department statistics on employment, energy or industrial
productivity.
The new noncommercial service, called "Sailor" in tribute to
Maryland's maritime heritage, is a project of the state's library
system. Maryland will place no time constraints on Sailor users at
the outset. But Sailor's organizers expect the service to be so
popular that strain on the system's 192-telephone-line capacity may
eventually force limits.
Free Internet connections are available in some cities such as
Cleveland where community-based links to the giant network began. A
similar service in the Washington area is called CapAccess, but it is
supported by contributions. At least half the states are exploring
hooking their library systems up to the Internet, and some have
already done so. But their Internet resources are used chiefly by
the librarians, not the patrons.
A full complement of additional Internet services via Sailor (e-mail
plus the ability to transfer files, the site-to-site connections known
as telnet and the hundreds of special-interest electronic discourses
called Usenet newsgroups) will cost $ 100 a year. Electronic mail
service as a single option will cost $35 a year, library officials
say.
A commercial provider of full Internet connections such as Digital
Express Group Inc. of Greenbelt charges $ 20 for setup, plus a $ 250
yearly fee and $1 an hour for use in excess of six hours per day. Of
the major information services, America Online is arguably the most
technically advanced, and it does not yet offer the full line of
Internet services. Access to America Online costs $ 9.95 a month, plus
$ 3.50 an hour after the first five hours in a month.
Because its services will be free or low-cost, Maryland library
officials hope Sailor will entice into the on-line universe people who
have so far taken little part in the computerizing of American life.
"Part of the function of the library is to keep the playing field
level," says Maurice Travillian, assistant state superintendent for
libraries. "That's becoming harder in our digitized world, where
people with the power of machines can really bring in a lot more
stuff" than can the poor.
A random cruise through the layers of gopher menus accessible through
Sailor is a short course in the allure and frustrations of the
electronic meandering that has come to be known as cybersurfing. On
the Internet, the opening menu of choices on the gopher leads to other
menus of choices that lead to yet more menus in a fashion that
ultimately guides a user to information. But resources mutate from
moment to moment. Sources of information open and close, appear and
disappear, for no discernible reason. There is no card catalogue.
Authoritative, in-depth, highly reliable knowledge sits side-by-side
with trivia and sometimes drivel.
Select "Federal Government Resources" from Sailor's main menu, for
example, and then the "National Institutes of Health" from the next
menu, and you can retrieve information about NIH grants, search the
NIH phone book -- and also get a weather forecast.
The Library of Congress's MARVEL service offers, in addition to the
library's incomparable catalogue, a database of pending federal
legislation, information about Congress, and connections to the
offices of Rep. Sam Coppersmith (D-Ariz.)and Rep. John Kyl (R-Ariz.),
two congressmen who have established a formal presence on the
Internet. But MARVEL is also a gateway to help-wanted ads all over
the Internet, as well as to information about openings at the library.
The library was looking outside its own ranks to fill four jobs as of
Sunday. The King of Thailand was reportedly seeking 120 mechanical
engineers, some to do robotics research.
Although Sailor significantly undercuts the prices of commercial
Internet access providers, neither they nor Maryland library officials
see themselves as competitors. "Libraries have always been in
competition with bookstores and video stores," says Travillian. "We
stimulate interest. If people get on and like this and want more
access, they'll switch over to a commercial vendor, who will probably
get more customers than he would if we didn't exist at all." "I
really do think they will complement one another," says Debra Young,
spokeswoman for CompuServe Information Service. The largest of the
commercial on-line services, CompuServe is not scheduled to offer a
full Internet connection until later this year.
Peaceful coexistence of both commercial and noncommercial conduits to
the Internet is desirable to preserve free access to the information
on it, said Daniel Weitzner of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, the
Washington-based champion of computer users' civil rights. "I would be
very concerned if all Americans' access to the Internet was controlled
by government-funded institutions, because they already have a record
of censoring controversial content," he said. Commercial providers, by
contrast, have little motive to censor. "They just want more
business," he said.
"By the same token, I think libraries over time have been absolutely
vehement about protecting the privacy rights of their users," Weitzner
said. "I'm sure that's a value that they'll bring to this system."
The price tag on Sailor's start-up and first year of operation is just
under $ 2 million, all of it federal money. Spurred on by the
administration's enthusiasm for building the National Research and
Education Network -- often called the information superhighway -- the
funds came from the Department of Education's Office of Educational
Research and Improvement (OERI), under the Library Services and
Construction Act (LSCA).
Sailor's LSCA money will run out by September 1995. The library system
must then turn to Maryland taxpayers for continued support. When the
state legislature returns to Annapolis next winter, it will be asked
for $ 825,000 for fiscal 1996 to continue Sailor.
Sailor is up and running in test mode now. However, phone numbers
that the public can use will be made available on a county-by-county
basis as lines are hooked up and librarians are trained. The city of
Baltimore and Carroll County are scheduled to go public by the end of
July. Anne Arundel, Prince George's and Charles counties plan to be
on-line in August and Montgomery County in September. Most of the rest
of the state will be connected by the end of the summer, according to
Barbara G. Smith, chief of the State Library and Information Services
Section, who heads the project. Phone numbers for reaching Sailor will
be available from local public libraries.
The exceptions are Calvert County and southern St. Mary's County in
southern Maryland; the state's westernmost county, Garrett; and Kent
County on the Eastern Shore. In those areas, access via a local phone
number will not be possible until next year at the earliest. Their
residents can use Sailor if they are willing to make a toll call to a
nearby Sailor number.
Connections to the Internet are two-way, which means that while
Marylanders are using Sailor to depart the state on planet-wide
electronic cruises, computer users anywhere else on Earth can enter
Sailor to explore much that a Maryland librarian could access. Many of
these unique databases house information about Maryland. But they
also include, for example, what is believed to be the world's most
complete bibliography on occupational diseases of musicians,
maintained by the Music Medicine Clearinghouse at the Medical &
Chirurgical Faculty Library, and a guide to the Jane Austen collection
at Goucher College, Travillian is particularly enthusiastic about the
impact Sailor is likely to have in schools -- especially schools where
funds for books and other sources of information have been cut back.
Maryland libraries are also being urged to add computers so that
Sailor will be handy for people who lack the hardware at home. The
organizers say they are even fantasizing about Sailor kiosks in malls
and supermarkets.
Travillian predicts what he calls "a flood in the modem pool." At the
outset, the system will accommodate only 192 dial-in users at one
time, in addition to those who arrive via direct connections from
local libraries and from sites elsewhere on the Internet. Although
library officials point out that it is impossible to estimate the
likely demand for such a novel service, no one involved in the project
really believes present capacity will be anything close to adequate.
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From: saisk1@mdw074.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr SA Iskenderian)
Subject: Automatic HF Channel Allocation
Date: 1 Jul 1994 02:48:14 GMT
Organization: Monash University
As part of my final year Electrical Engineering thesis project at
Monash University in Melbourne, Austrlia, I have undertaken to
research into 'Self Tracking Automatic HF Optimisation of Voice and
Data'. The project work is on behalf of Melbourne based company, BHP
Petroleum that make great use of telecommunication equipment in remote
locations both locally and overseas.
The latest equipment I came across that handles automatic allocation
of HF channels is the Automatic Link Establishment (ALE) 1045 controller.
I managed to get a copy of a brochure on ALE 1045 detailing its
possible arrangement in conjunction with a PC, high speed data modem
and an HF radio.
Having also read through the US Federal Standards 1045 on ALE titled
'Telecommunications: Radio Automatic Link Establishment', I would
greatly appreciate further information on ALE or relevant equipment
and about the possibility of transmitting voice as well as data using
this system.
Could someone please clarify the following points:
AA) Is it viable to digitize and compress voice before transmitting
it as data blocks but switching off the 'retransmission' mode to
prevent echoes? What type of Codec might be suitable for voice
digitisation?
BB) Can an ALE system be used to allocate the optimum
HF channel at regular intervals and switch over to normal analog
voice communication?
Any references to literature or technical articles would also be much
appreciated.
Thanking in advance,
Shiraz Iskenderian, Monash University.
saisk1@ccds.cc.monash.edu.au
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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 20:19:27 -0700
From: pmcclure@netcom.com (Pat McClure)
Subject: Underseas Cable Data
To: Patrick Townson, TELECOM Digest Editor, telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu
Fm: Pat McClure, Consulting Engineer, pmcclure@netcom.com
Mr. Townson:
I got you name from an interesting history of underseas cables which I
obtained from ftp.lcs.mit.edu.
I'm doing a forecast of communications (private line) costs over the
next ten years, particularly international costs.
Do you know where I can find data on the underseas cables that have
been installed in the last ten years, plus the capacity and cost of
each? Any references or leads you could give me would surely be
appreciated.
Regards,
Pat McClure, pmcclure@netcom.com
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Perhaps some readers will write to
Pat McClure with the requested details. Thanks. PAT]
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From: ecci@nic.cerf.net (Scott Platenberg)
Subject: Modem Test Equipment
Date: 01 Jul 1994 01:41:05 GMT
Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer
I am just starting to look for equipment that will help me test
several (10 to 100) modem lines simultaneously. Does anyone have any
good recommendations for telco eliminators? Any help is greatly
appreciated. Please email response to "scottp@ecci.com".
Scott scottp@ecci.com
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From: gehringe@eos.ncsu.edu
Subject: Reasonably Priced In-State Calls?
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 13:42:29 -0400
Thanks to info gleaned from the TELECOM Digest, I now have services
that provide reasonably priced interstate "calling-card" calls during
the daytime (ATN: 17.5c/min. interstate, 23c/min.) and night/wknd.
(AT&T Reach Out America with Calling-Card Option: $3.15/mo. +
10c/min.) calls.
Does anyone have any ideas on how to--
- avoid a surcharge and get reasonable rates on intra-LATA
"calling card" calls?
- get lower rates on inter-LATA intrastate "calling card" calls?
- beat the 17.5c/min. rate for long interstate "calling card"
calls in the evening (low rates, minimal surcharge needed),
- get lower 1+ rates for intrastate calls (within NC)?
If you do not know where I can obtain cheaper service, can you at
least give me some pointers to follow?
Thanks,
Ed
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From: jeffb@audiolab.uwaterloo.ca (Jeff Bamford)
Subject: Unitel Switched Me a Little Early!
Organization: Audio Research Group, University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 08:05:03 GMT
After only three hours of equal access in Canada I've been
switched to Unitel from Bell Canada. The only strange thing is that,
I never actually requested the change! I got in earlier and thought,
well it's July 1st and equal access is here so I'll give it a try. I
dialed 1-700-555-4141 and was extremely surprised to find that I was
now with Unitel. I also tried 10323-1-700-555-4141 (323 is Bell
Canada) and was even further surprised that this worked!
At this point, I thought gotta call Unitel, gotta call Unitel.
So, I called them up and informed the operator at Unitel that I called
the 1-700 number to check your carrier and was surprised to be already
switched to Unitel. I then added that I was even more surprised as I
never actually requested the change. She then put me on hold. When
she came back she said that they could switch me back to Bell if I
wanted. I said that I wanted Unitel, I just wondered why they
switched me without asking. She said it must've been an error. I
hope they aren't just switching all their customers! In any case, I
gave her my name and phone number to make it official.
Since I had them on the phone, I asked her what Unitel's
carrier number is. She didn't quite know what I meant at first. I
said, "In the states you can use another carrier by dialing
10xxx-1-rest of number". She then knew what I meant but had to look
up the number, turns out that it is: 869.
Jeff Bamford jsbamford@uwaterloo.ca -- NeXT Mail welcome
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From: wjrst1+@pitt.edu (William J Rehm)
Subject: AT&T Keep In Touch
Date: 1 Jul 1994 14:59:35 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Reply-To: wjrst1+@pitt.edu
Will the AT&T Keep In Touch PCMCIA modem work with an acoustic
coupler? We have a group of salesmen who need to connect from phone
booths. We have a call in to AT&T customer service, but we're in a bit
of a jam, so I thought I'd try here. Obviously, if it is possible, we
haven't managed to do it. If anyone could post/mail directions, I'd
appreciate it.
TIA,
Bill Rehm wjrst1+@pitt.edu
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From: gehringe@eos.ncsu.edu
Subject: 17.5 No-Surcharge Travel Service: details
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 13:18:48 -0400
Just phoned ATN's Buffalo office and got the details. I hope I have
copied all of the intricacies correctly.
Their "calling card" has rates of 17.5c/min. interstate at all times,
no minimum. Intrastate charges are higher, e.g., 23c/min. at all
times in NC.
Their 1+ service has basic rate of 23c/min. peak (0800-1700 M-F only)
and 12.5c/min. off-peak (all other times). There is a surcharge of
$7.50/mo.
However, if you make at least 60 min. of *interstate* calls per month
with the service, the rate *for calls to your "top 5" area codes only*
drops to 18.4c/min. peak and 10c/min. off-peak. ("Top 5" is determined
by number of minutes. Hey, here's a company that realizes additional
revenue on every NPA split! :-) Also, the $7.50 surcharge is waived.
So, yes, Virginia, it is much cheaper to call for 60 min. in a month
than for 40 min.
Again, intrastate rates are higher, e.g., in NC, 25c/min. peak and
15.5c/min. off-peak.
Ed
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From: BRP Publications <brp@access.digex.net>
Subject: New FTP Site/Test
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 12:09:07 EDT
FYI, Business Research Publications has made an initial move toward
getting its 18 publications on the Net. BRP has set up an FTP site
(ftp.digex.net /pub/access/brpinc) with newsletter issues, in both raw
ASCII and Common Ground formats, as well as other research reports, a
conference calendar and other related information.
Topics cover information and online services, email, telecom
regulation and legislation, interactive TV/cable TV, security
technology, wireless and mobile technologies, data communications, and
labor and human resources matters.
Once we gauge the use and usefulness of the information, we'll
consider posting more information to the Net in the future. My
publishers tell me that they're still concerned about unauthorized
distribution of copyrighted information, but for now they say the
information at the FTP site can be copied and distributed as long as
the full text of each newsletter is kept intact and the copyright
notice is included. Any comments on whether this will work?
Nate Zelnick
Editor
Information & Interactive Services Report
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From: sakkascb@ucunix.san.uc.EDU (Chris B. Sakkas)
Subject: Is There a Market For PC Voice Mail Developers Card?
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 1994 12:11:58 -0400
I recently developed a PC-compatible voice mail card with the
abilities to record and playback voice messages to the telephone,
receive and transmit DTMF tones, and other general telephone control.
My hardware also has a microphone input and an amplified output for a
speaker. A volume control is provided to adjust playback level to the
speaker. The interface to the telephone is through a pre-approved FCC
Part 68 device. The single quantity price for the components used in
this project are under $65.
I have developed a software library to support the above functions,
and have generated a limited voice mail application. Although my
design was made to support only a single telephone line, I believe it
would be possible to use multiple cards in a PC for several lines.
The question that I have is this: With the advent of inexpensive
PC-compatible voice mail cards, especially the new low-cost DSP based
systems that incorporate modem/fax capabilites, is there a market for
a reasonably priced card for developers like the one I described
above? I believe that there may be many opportunites for interactive
voice applications, and the software I have would make it easy for
others to develop voice mail apps, fax-back systems, control of other
systems via telephone, etc. So, do you think there is a market for
what I have? Would it be reasonable to think that several
hundred/year could be sold?
I thank you for your opinions!
Chris B. Sakkas (sakkascb@ucunix.san.uc.edu)
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From: tjj@chinook.halcyon.com (T. J. Jardine (Ted))
Subject: Calling Card Cancellation
Date: 1 Jul 1994 14:52:11 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
In January, 1994 we received a notice from GTE that allowed us to
decline to have our name, address, and telephone number sent to other
long distance carriers when we used our GTE Calling Card. This is for
a telephone number which is unlisted. On May 1, 1994, GTE (without
any notification, even in the January letter) cancelled our Calling
Card.
Has anyone else had a similar experience (with GTE or another carrier)?
Is this something which would warrant a complaint to the FCC?
Ted Jardine E-mail: tjj@halcyon.com
Voice: 206 788 6305 (Voice mail/FAX)
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: They probably should have sent you notice
of cancellation and will probably claim that they did sent it even it
if was somehow lost in the mail, etc. The reason they cancelled your
calling card was because they are obligated to provide your billing
name and address to other telcos who extend you credit based on your
GTE account. You can forbid them to exchange that information, but then
the other telcos have no way to protect themselves against fraudulent
usage which might be incurred on your PIN. Personally, I can't see why
anyone would make such a prohibition since the other telcos are expressly
forbidden by the same regulations (which require sharing of names and
numbers for billing purposes) from using the information for anything
other than their billing. I've had credit cards from Ameritech, Sprint,
and AT&T for ages and never once have been improperly solicited. Numerous
federal regulations pertaining to billing, credit and collection practices
protect us quite well ... making that prohibition to telco on the exchange
of names and numbers simply gums up the works and makes it more difficult
to make calls from other locations where the use of telco credit cards is
concerned. To each his own I guess, but it seems excessively paranoid
to worry about it as a privacy issue. Yes, I know the idea that the phone
may ring some evening with a telemarketer on the other end strikes fear
in the hearts of many of you also, but its really a non-issue to me. PAT]
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From: md@pstc3.pstc.brown.edu (Michael P. Deignan)
Subject: Last Laugh! OJ/Telecom-Related Commercials
Date: 1 Jul 1994 16:51:13 GMT
Organization: Brown University
How long before we see OJ/Telecom-related commercials, ie:
"Ever smell OJ burn...
You will.
And the company that will bring it to you?
California Power and Light Co."
or
footage of White Bronco driving down Rt. 405, w/ voiceover:
"Cellular-One 'Follow-Me Roaming'. No matter where you run, we'll be
right there with you..."
Michael P. Deignan
Amalgamated Baby Seal Poachers Union, Local 101
"Get 'The Club'... Endorsed by Baby Seal poachers everywhere..."
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Poor OJ ... he's gotten part of his
anatomy in the wringer, that's for sure. According to this week's
issue of {The Globe} -- a truthful newspaper sold at better newstands
everywhere -- OJ Was Framed! Yes, that's the headline in this
week's issue of the supermarket tabloid. The story says that someone
else committed the murders most foul and then left as OJS was getting
there (the first time) to make it look like he was responsible.
As we prepare for a three-day holiday in the United States, I wish all
our USA readers a happy Independence Day; do take care when playing
with your firecracker over the weekend; no messy explosions or anyone
getting hurt if you please; and do drive safely and all that. I'll
see if its possible to get an issue or two of this rag out to you over
the weekend, otherwise Tuesday for sure! PAT]
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Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
New Telephone Numbers in the Netherlands (Dik T. Winter)
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Big SS7 Problems (was Re: Int'l Calls to Taiwan) (Jim Gottlieb)
IP to X.121 Translation? (Tudor Jebelean)
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From: Dik.Winter@cwi.nl (Dik T. Winter)
Subject: New Telephone Numbers in the Netherlands
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 00:23:04 GMT
In October 1996 most telephone numbers in the Netherlands will change
(approximately 75% of all current telephone numbers). The changes
occur for a number of reasons:
1. To make all telephonenumbers equally long (when counting area code
plus local number).
2. To make most area codes shorter.
3. To remove local numbers starting with the digit 1 (and also 7 to 9).
This is due to a directive by the European Union where emergency
numbers and other general numbers will start with 1 (digits 7 to 9
will be reserved for competitors of the now monopolistic PTT).
4. To remove area codes starting with 8. Also due to an EU directive
where area code 0800 will be used for toll-free numbers.
The changes do not apply for mobile telephones, free numbers and
premium numbers; although I suspect they will all change later.
Some history. (Note: when I talk about n-digit area codes I include
the access digit, 0, because that is common practise overhere). When
automatic non-local dialing was introduced the country was split in a
hierarchical system of area codes. All codes were five digits, the
first the access digit, the next two the code for the district
exchange, and the following two were used for further refinement. So
Muiden (in the neighborhood of Amsterdam) had area code 02942; a
subsection of sector Weesp (02940) which in turn was in the district
of Amsterdam (with area code 02900). There were in total nearly 2000
area codes in use, distributed amongst about 15 districts.
Even before the automization was complete changes had taken place, the
area codes of the largest cities were reduced to three digits; since
that time Amsterdam has area code 020. After completion a lot more
sectors have gotten three digit area codes, so currently there is a
mixture of three and five digit area codes. Also since old times
local numbers were not equally long. When a sector grew out of
numbers some numbers would get an additional digit prefixed freeing up
a lot of initial digits. That is how the Amsterdam number 53121 was
changed to 953121 and later to 6953121. Previously it probably was
3121. This was not done for all numbers in an area code at once, so
it was very usual to have different length numbers within a single
area code. Currently numbers are six or seven digits when the area
code is three digits, or three to five digits when the area code is
five digits. This will change to universally a three digit area code
with a seven digit local number or a four digit area code with a six
digit local number.
This means that *all* numbers that do not fit this pattern will change
next year. And that is all of the country except the three big cities
(Amsterdam, Rotterdam and the Hague), the (probably for you unknown)
entity of Almere and the small township of Almelo which will change
already this year. There is no simple rule for number changes. PTT
has issued a 44 page booklet describing the changes, and you need all
those pages; it will be distributed country wide next year. A feature
of the change is that all old numbers will go through for six months
after the change (unlike when Belgium changed all numbers overnight,
quite some years ago.) But this permissive dialing has its problems
(i.e. more changes are made than would otherwise be needed).
How does it change (a global overview):
If the old area code was three digits (except 080 and 085) the area
code remains unchanged, and if the old number was six digits, a single
digit is prepended. The digit prepended depends on the area code and
in some cases also on the initial digit of the old local number. Area
codes 080 and 085 will additionally be changed to 024 and 026
respectively.
Otherwise the old area code was five digits. There are two possibilities:
1. The area is incorporated in a neighboring three digit area code area.
In that case the local number will be prefixed by a number of
digits to make the local number seven digits.
2. The last digit of the area code is dropped. The local number is
prefixed to make the number six digits.
In all cases the prefix must be found in the conversion table and may
also depend on the initial digit of the original local number; and in
most cases the first digit of the prefix has no relation to the
dropped digit from the area code.
In addition, area codes in the range 083xx will move to the range 031x
and area codes in the range 088xx will move to the range 048x.
Moreover, Almelo (which changes this year) will go from 0549x to 0546.
And finally, rule two is not totally general, there are cases where
two or more new four digit area codes are combined, so that also the
final digit of the new area code is not totally predictable.
I think we will have some fun over here.
dik t. winter, cwi, kruislaan 413, 1098 sj amsterdam, nederland, +31205924098
home: bovenover 215, 1025 jn amsterdam, nederland; e-mail: dik@cwi.nl
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Date: Wed, 06 Jul 1994 12:52:14 MDT
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "TCP/IP Network Administration" by Hunt
BKTCPADM.RVW 940328
O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.
103 Morris Street, Suite A
Sebastopol, CA 95472
800-998-9938 707-829-0515
fax: 707-829-0104
info@ora.com or nuts@ora.com
"TCP/IP Network Administration", Hunt, 1992, 0-937175-82-X
The growth of the Internet, in terms of the number of computers
connected, has been doubling each year for at least the last ten.
This means that in this coming year about three million computers will
get connected, and in the year following, approximately six million.
This growth cannot continue indefinitely. One constraint is the
number of computers in the world, and another is the limit on the
number of numeric Internet IP addresses available. One of the most
important limiting factors, however, is the availability of knowledge
about the connection and configuration of computers to the Internet.
This book addresses this latter problem.
If you are a UNIX system manager, this book is a thorough guide to
configuring an Internet connection. (Even if you are not on the
Internet, it is an excellent overview of the requirements for using
TCP/IP to network your own machines.) For some, the guide may be on
the technical side -- but then, network administration is a formidably
technical task.
The first three chapters discuss the concepts behind TCP/IP, routing,
and the domain name and name service. The next four cover the basics
of connections and configuration. Chapters eight to ten give details
on the primary network services. There are also chapters on
troubleshooting, security and appendices, including Internet service
contacts, and the various application forms for registration.
If you are not working in UNIX, many of the low level specifics will
not be of much use. Many of the items, however, can either be used as
rough outlines, or adapted to non-UNIX systems. Many programs may be
different, but a lot of the structure, data and concepts will be the
same.
For those charged with the practical details of bringing a system into
the Internet, this book is uniquely helpful.
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1994 BKTCPADM.RVW 940328, Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated newsgroups/mailing lists.
Vancouver ROBERTS@decus.ca
Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca
Research into rslade@cue.bc.ca
User p1@CyberStore.ca
Security Canada V7K 2G6
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From: jimmy@tokyo07.info.com (Jim Gottlieb)
Subject: Big SS7 Problems (was Re: Int'l Calls to Taiwan)
Reply-To: jimmy@denwa.info.com (Jim Gottlieb)
Organization: Info Connections, Nakano-ku, Tokyo, Japan
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 06:22:36 GMT
A recent article talked about problems calling Taiwan. I would like
to propose that the carriers are all having severe problems with
regard to SS7 connectivity with foreign carriers.
Although I have almost no problems when calling to the U.S. from
Japan, I have had many problems calling Japan from the U.S. recently.
For example, I find that when trying to call a number in Japan that is
busy, instead of a busy signal I often get "The call you have made can
not be completed in the country you have dialed" from AT&T while
Sprint just gives a reorder.
A few weeks ago, I kept getting a "not valid" recording when trying to
call a Tokyo mobile number. I got it to work only by adding a '0'
after the country code, something you're not supposed to have to do.
A few days later, it was working again, with or without the '0'.
The carriers need to take a serious look at these problems.
Jim Gottlieb <jimmy@denwa.info.com> Info Connections, Tokyo, Japan
Chuo 1-27-8, Nakano-ku, Tokyo 164
Fax: +81 3 5389 0188 Voice Mail: +81 3 5389 1099
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From: tjebelea@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Tudor Jebelean)
Subject: IP to X.121 Translation?
Organization: RISC, J.K. University of Linz, Austria
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 16:20:26 GMT
Dear colleagues,
This is a request for help. Do you know how to translate IP address
into X.121 address?
More specifically (since I no nothing on the matter): I address
computers (for instance by telnet or ftp) with something like
"melmac.risc.uni-linz.ac.at", which is equivalent to a number, for
instance 193.170.36.100. Apparently this is called IP address.
However some computers are connected to the world in a way which does
not recognize this addresses. I know somebody in Romania who receives
mail through Sprint, and can also do telnet or ftp, however the
addresses he has to use look different: he told me this is called
X.121 format, and there should be a translation scheme -- but we do not
know it.
So the question is: does this make sense? Is there such a translation
scheme? How does it work?
Thank you very much for any help. Please send it directly by e-mail
since I do not read this group.
Dr. Tudor Jebelean phone:(Austria)7236-3231-50
RISC-Linz, A-4040, Austria fax: (Austria)7236-3231-30
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From: News@goliath.france.NCR.COM
Subject: Automatic Machines on a Network
Date: 6 Jul 94 14:19:31 GMT
Organization: ATT GIS France
I want to connect automatic can dispenser machines on a network. I
need advices to help us to investigate extraordinary solutions like:
wireless network transmissions on 110 volts wires spread spectrum, etc.
The rules of the "game" are simple:
There is NO telephone line near the machine. Data collection is
triggerred by a jam, empty state, etc or by a visit of technician for
cleaning and filling. It's a one way communication from a machine to a
server.
If anybody has an idea even special feel free to contact me
GUILLOPE EMMANUEL / CSSD SUPPORT OCC / ATT-GIS France
BP101 98 RUE DE PARIS / 91301 MASSY CEDEX / FRANCE
PHONE #: (33)1 69-93-36-51 VOICEPLUS 3253651
FAX #: (33)1 69-93-36-01 VOICEPLUS 3253601
EMAIL #:Emanuel.Guillope@France.NCR.COM
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Date: Tue, 5 Jul 94 16:04:04 -0400
From: jnoorder@julian.uwo.ca (Judy Noordermeer)
Subject: Telecommunications Developments at Western
LEADING-EDGE MEDICAL NETWORK TO RECEIVE $2.2 MILLION
IN PROVINCIAL FUNDING
June 13/94
An innovative fibre optic network linking London's leading medical
institutions will receive $2.2 million from the provincial government,
Frances Lankin, minister of economic development and trade, announced
at Western today.
LARG*net -- London and Region Global Network -- will connect The
University of Western Ontario, Robarts Research Institute, University
Hospital, St. Joseph's Health Centre, Victoria Hospital, the London
Regional Cancer Centre and Fanshawe College.
The high technology network will allow the seven health care delivery,
education and research institutions shared access to medical imaging
databases, research data, information resources, video training and
teaching cases. By sharing information, they will save invaluable
time and money and learn from each others' expertise.
"The network represents the collective excellence that London
possesses in terms of telecommunications, health care delivery and
education," says Dr. Trevor Cradduck, professor and chair of the
division of nuclear medicine at Western and general manager of
LARG*net.
"Quite distinct from the developmental and research aspects of the
network, I believe the infrastructure will also be crucial to helping
the health care and educational institutions collaborate more
effectively and efficiently," he says.
The LARG*net experience will be watched carefully across North America.
"LARG*net will benefit not only Western, but the entire community,"
says Michael Gourley, vice-president of administration at the
University.
"The network brings London to the forefront of the information and
telecommunications revolution. The implementation of this initiative
leads to the type of high technology investment and jobs which the new
economy demands," he says.
The provincial government contribution to LARG*net represents 40 per
cent of the total cost of the project. The funds were made available
through the Ontario Network Infrastructure Program, a jobsONTARIO
initiative.
For more information, contact Dr. Trevor Cradduck, LARG*net general
manager, at (519) 667-6574, or Judy Noordermeer, Public Affairs Officer, at
(519) 661-2046.
Judy Noordermeer Public Affairs Officer
University Relations and Information
(519) 661-2046 Fax: (519) 661-3921
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Date: Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:02 JST
From: jimmy@denwa.linc.or.jp (Jim Gottlieb)
Subject: COCOTs Lose Again (was Re: AT&T Keep In Touch)
Organization: Info Connections, Nakano-ku, Tokyo, Japan
In article <telecom14.308.7@eecs.nwu.edu> is written:
> Will the AT&T Keep In Touch PCMCIA modem work with an acoustic
> coupler? We have a group of salesmen who need to connect from phone
> booths.
Here in Japan, NTT is rapidly replacing all public telephones with a
new model containing both digital (ISDN) and analog data jacks. I
would say that about 80% of the public phones near where I live have
already been upgraded. Companies like Sharp and Casio are introducing
products to take advantage of this ubiquitous data connectivity.
Under current conditions this will never happen in the U.S. The
telcos can't afford to do this when they are competing against sleazy
private pay phone operators who would never make this kind of
investment. So while the Japanese will be able to plug in anywhere,
U.S. residents are still stuck with acoustic couplers. Yuck!
Jim Gottlieb <jimmy@denwa.info.com> Info Connections, Tokyo, Japan
Chuo 1-27-8, Nakano-ku, Tokyo 164
Fax: +81 3 5389 0188 Voice Mail: +81 3 5389 1099
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 1994 07:15:28 -0400
From: jwm@student.umass.edu (Jeffrey W. McKeough)
Subject: NYNEX Says No Ringmate With Call Answering
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
While I had intended to read replies to the post I sent in regarding
Ringmate before ordering, I decided yesterday to call NYNEX to verify
that the service is indeed available in my area. I was told by two
individuals that Ringmate is incompatible with Call Answering on the
5ESS. I remember reading in the archives that at least one person
(was it you, PAT?) in fact had both features and was served by a 5E.
I am assuming that the interaction is between Ringmate and the
Busy/Don't Answer forward that is installed along with Call Answering.
(Since the switch really shouldn't care what the Octel system does.)
My aunt at SNET said that this feature combination works fine on the
5ESS switches that she oversees. She speculates that it could be a
tariff issue, i.e. NYNEX never got approval to offer B/DA forwarding
in combination with Ringmate.
So, does anybody out there have these two features on a 5ESS? And if
it isn't a technical problem, is there anything I can do to try and
get the service that I would like?
Jeffrey W. McKeough jwm@student.umass.edu
P.S. Responses to my other questions would still be appreciated!
------------------------------
From: Bob Smith <bsmith@rahul.net>
Subject: RFD: comp.dcom.cdpd
Organization: a2i network
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 16:48:31 GMT
REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
comp.dcom.cdpd
(This is **NOT** a Call For Votes. A Call For Votes will be issued in
the groups to which this message is posted 21 to 30 days from the date
that this message first appears. Voting is to be recorded by a neutral
third party.)
Group Name: comp.dcom.cdpd
Status: Unmoderated
Summary: Discussion of all aspects of Cellular Digital Packet
Data (CDPD), including discussions of carriers, services,
applications, specifications, and noteworthy events.
Distribution: World
CHARTER
CDPD is wireless protocol which offers low cost and ubiquitous radio
coverage to TCP-IP networks. The technology uses the idle voice
channels available in the existing cellular telephone system for
packet data transmission. Application interface to CDPD can be via
telnet, SLIP, UDP, or TCP. A CDPD modem uses the AT command set and
has an IP address which is assigned by the local cellular company
(just as your cellular carrier assigned the phone number to your
cellular phone). CDPD may be the preferred remote/mobile WAN since the
time and cost overhead of a cellular call establishment is not
present.
The aim of comp.dcom.CDPD would be to provide an informal electronic
conference for anyone curious about, or involved with CDPD. It is hoped
that the group may further the understanding and awareness of CDPD.
CDPD's success requires the cooperation and coordination of many
diverse players: application developers, system integrators, cellular
carriers, infrastructure manufacturers, and modem manufactures. A
newsgroup where ideas, suggestions, and questions can be freely
exchanged is needed to help tie these players into an industry.
The FAQs would be an important part of the newsgroup and would include
as a minimum:
FAQs about the nature and scope of CDPD
a list of CDPD carriers and services offered
a list of CDPD modem manufacturers
a list of other CDPD products available
This newsgroup would allow the rapid and timely discussion of CDPD
related issues and events which might otherwise never be fully
disseminated.
Topics for discussion would include :-
Product announcements
Press releases of interest to the CDPD community
Innovative CDPD applications
CDPD deployment issues and plans
Interpretation of the CDPD specification
Infrastructure hardware: NMS, MDBS, MD-IS, ...
Infrastructure software: NMS, MDBS, MD-IS, ...
Modems - specifications, opinions, etc.
New product ideas
Databases, lists of...
CDPD security, encryption, and firewalls
Announcements/reviews of papers/conferences
Comparisons to alternatives such as RAM, Ardis
General discussion/opinions/questions.
Positions vacant
Professional news
Economic issues
We hope that you will support this group, and look forward to your
comments and participation in the discussions in news.groups.
Please distribute this proposal to your friends and colleagues.
This RFD has been posted to:
alt.digital.radio
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comp.os.ms-windows.programming.networks
comp.protocols.misc
comp.protocols.tcp-ip
comp.std.wireless
news.announce.newgroups
sci.geo.satellite-nav
Thank you.
The Process of Creating a Newsgroup
(a) RFD: Request for Discussion, i.e.., public hearing to take place in
the newsgroup news.groups on Internet for approximately one
month
(b) CFV: Call for votes (the voting period will be about 25 days)
(c) Counting of votes and public display of votes
(d) Announcement of new newsgroup
(a)-->(b) assumes no major disagreements about this newsgroup during
discussion.
(c)-->(d) assumes that the vote is favorable, i.e., Y > N+100 .and.
Y > (2/3)(Y+N)
Y being the number of YES votes, N being the number of NO votes for the
creation of the proposed newsgroup.
Bob Smith <bsmith@rahul.net>
------------------------------
From: Alan_Sieben@mindlink.bc.ca (Alan Sieben)
Subject: Film to Video Transfer Unit
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 94 16:38:05 PDT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
I'm looking to purchase an ELMO TRV S8 film to video transfer unit.
This unit is no longer made by ELMO. It transfers Super 8 film to a
video signal thatu can be recorded on tape. Also interested in
anything else that transfers home movie film to video. Post here
or reply to alan_sieben@mindlink.bc.ca.
------------------------------
From: dalk@login.dkuug.dk (Lars Kalsen)
Subject: Info Highway - Virtual Factories
Date: 6 Jul 94 21:12:43 GMT
Organization: DKnet
Hi - out there,
I have a question concering what is called the The National
Information Infrastructure in US - the Information Superhighway.
I have a feeling that with such an infrastructure you could have a
more decentralized production. You could link factories together and
production could be where the workers and raw materials are. In fact
you could think of VIRTUEL FACTORIES where many production facilities
were linked together acting as one ordinary factory. The different
production facilities could of course have different owners.
Have you heard about similar ideas or seen articles about this
subject? Please email me with any peace of information -- or send an
articles to this newsgroup with your thoughts.
Greerting from Denmark,
Lars Kalsen dalk@login.dkuug.dk
------------------------------
From: VANTEK@aol.com
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 94 18:57:52 EDT
Subject: Last Laugh! Dial 999 For Trouble!
WIRES CROSS AS LOVERS DIAL M FOR MOTHER
LONDON, July 2 (Reuter) - A terrified British mother put police on red
alert after mistaking the sound of lovemaking for a cry for help from
her daughter.
The Independent newspaper said on Saturday that two accidental phone
calls woke the woman in Devizes, southern England, in the small hours
of the morning.
Hearing moaning, groaning and shouting, she dismissed the first as an
obscene call, but in the second she recognised her daughter crying:
"Oh my God," and heard a man's voice.
Convinced her daughter was being attacked in her bedroom 100 miles
(160 km) away, she dialled the emergency number 999 and a police squad
sped to the daughter's home to investigate.
"Officers rushed round and found she wasn't being attacked -- in fact
she was quite willing," a police spokesman said.
"They explained that during the moments of passion one of the couple
accidentally pushed the last-number redial button on the bedside
telephone with a toe. Unfortunately on both occasions it was the
girl's mother's phone number," he said.
"This is a warning for other people -- if you're going to indulge in
this sort of thing, move the phone."
The mother and daughter have apologized to police for the confusion.
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TELECOM Digest Thu, 7 Jul 94 00:42:00 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 310
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
NYTimes, err, FBI, Looking For Telco Hacker (Danny Burstein)
AT&T Calls Between 312/708 Area Codes (Jayne C. McGrath)
Theoretical Maximum Limits of Packets Per Second (Rachana D. Patel)
Bell Atlantic Cuts Long Distance Rates (Phillip Dampier)
Two Antennas For One Car Phone (Ben Wright)
LAN Certification Process (John Ray)
Ridgeley, W.Va. - No Dialing Changes Found (Carl Moore)
Wanted: Voice Mail System (Masakazu Nakano)
ISDN Residential Use? (Keith Knipschild)
Dial 114 For Dial-A-Verse Service (Van Hefner)
Washington Post Article on Free Access Wanted (Doug Granzow)
Looking for US Radio Pager Information (Julian Edwards)
AlphaNumeric Paging via Email (Patrick Larkin, Jr)
Are Any Bellcore or ITU Docs Available via FTP? (John Morey)
Looking For a TMN Compatable Object Builder But Having no Luck (John Morey)
Royal Dutch PTT Telecom Wins Unisys Customerize Award (Randy Gellens)
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From: dannyb@panix.com (danny burstein)
Subject: NYTimes, err, FBI, Looking For Telco Hacker
Date: 6 Jul 1994 03:10:11 -0400
The following article is based on a {New York Times} story of Monday,
July 4th, 1994 and was distributed over the SCIFRAUD list.
It has quite a bit of telco (and computer) relevance. Check out my
comments after the main body ...
From: ACHiggins <ACH13@ALBNYVMS.bitnet>
Subject: A Darkside Hacker
A Darkside Hacker
Here is a report in the Times concerning a notorious darkside
hacker, Kevin Mitnick. This is the young man who, among other things,
was the model behind the 1983 movie, "War Games." He's been in touble
with authorities since high school where, for example, he broke into
the school's computer. Since then, he has served time in prison and
in treatment programs designed to "cure" his "addiction" to computer
hacking.
Mitnick is not reported to be after money. Rather, his rewards
seem to derive from his "being in charge" of computers, mainframes,
and phone companies. He has not sold anything he's stolen, just used
what he has stolen to best the authorities and to escape detection.
He's very good at what he does.
With access to the mainframes the authorities are using to track
him, he manages to avoid detection. With access to motor vehicle
mainframes, he is able to create new identities for himself and to
follow his enemies. Finding him has not been easy nor will it get
easier.
It is reported that he delights in making his pursuers look
bad.
++++++++++
\Markoff, John "Cyberspace's Most Wanted: Hacker
Eludes F.B.I. Pursuit," {New York Times}, 4 July 1994,
pp. 1, 36.\
Here on the front page of the Times is the news that
long-time darkside hacker Kevin Mitnick is again in
trouble with the law and the federal authorities can't
seem to catch up with him. Authorities are looking for
him for violating probation and, perhaps, stealing
software and data from more than a half dozen leading
cellular telephone manufacturers.
Kevin Mitnick was a major figure in Hefner and
Markoff's book, Cyperpunk (Touchstone, 1992) where
Mitnick is described as a kid on a power trip and
described as "...an obese, nearsighted twenty-five-year-
old dropout from L.A. whose diet consisted of greasy
cheeseburgers and Big Gulp colas from the nearby 7-
Eleven..." (p. 132-133)
Mitnick has eluded capture now for nearly a year and
a half and "'he has created a lot of frustration inside
the bureau.'" (p. 36)
"It is not clear if Mr. Mitnick has computing skills
that are unusual in the world or programming, but he is
clearly adept at what is known in the computer
underground as 'social engineering.'
"By masquerading as a company executive in a
telephone call, he frequently talks an unsuspecting
company employee into giving him passwords and other
information that makes it possible for him to gain entry
to computers illegally. Using a personal computer and a
modem, he then connects to a company's computer and, with
his knowledge of how operation system work, commands it
to copy software illegally, display confidential
electronic messages of alter a telephone switch so he can
silently monitor a call.
"There is no evidence that Mr. Mitnick has used his
computer skills illegally to make money, although the
cellular phone companies say the person who stole their
software could sell it to competing manufacturers in Asia
or to criminals who want to offer free phone calls.
F.B.I. and Justice Department officials said they were
still uncertain of his motives and did not have absolute
proof that he was behind the attacks on cellular phone
companies..." (p. 36)
Mitnick's been arrested time and time again, since
his high schools days for various computer crimes.
"After Mr. Mitnick's 1988 arrest, his lawyer convinced
the judge that Mr. Mitnick's problem was similar to a
drug or gambling addiction. He served a year in prison
at the low-security prison in Lompoc, Calif. He then
spent six months in a small residential treatment program
that emphasizes the 12-step Alcoholics Anonymous.
"During his treatment program, Mr. Mitnick was
prohibited from touching a computer or a modem. He began
exercising regularly and lost more than 100 pounds.
Later he briefly obtained a job as a programmer for a
health care provider."
"The California Department of Motor Vehicles has
also issued a warrant for his arrest. The warrant,
issued in September, states that Mr. Mitnick wiretapped
F.B.I. agents' calls to the state agency. He then used
law-enforcement access codes he had obtained by
eavesdropping on the agents to make illegal requests for
drivers' licenses, state investigators say.
"The information from such drivers' licenses could
help him gain a false identity and help him find out
where his enemies live. It is just such tactics that
will make Mr. Mitnick very hard to find." (p. 36)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ A. C. Higgins +
+ SS 359 SUNYA Albany, New York 12222 +
+ E-mail: ACH13@ALBNYVMS; ACH13@UACSC1.Albany.edu +
+ Phone: (518) 442 - 4678; FAX: (518) 442 - 4936 +
+ SCIFRAUD@ALBNYVM1 +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
to which Dannyb adds:
Haven't the telcos (and the federales) been claiming for years that
there is no way for the central office switches/computers to 'dupe
out' the audio portion of a phone call? And, of course, even if they
could do this, there's no way you could remotely program the CO to
send the talk path to you in your office, could you?
Amazing what undocumented features can be found in these systems...
dannyb@panix.com (or dburstein@mcimail.com)
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From: jcm8@midway.uchicago.edu (jayne c mcgrath)
Subject: AT&T Calls Between 312/708 Area Codes
Reply-To: jcm8@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 18:47:04 GMT
Pat,
It does seem that AT&T will save you approximately 10% on calls
between the 708/312 area codes over the local Ameritech rates when the
mileage is greater than fifteen miles (excluding local volume
discounts). I recently received a phone bill for two "local" calls
routed through AT&T using 10288+ dialing. My calculations using rates
provided by AT&T over the phone also indicate that they overbilled me
by approximately 6% on one call for an overcharge of 5 cents (my rates
or method of calculation may be incorrect). It appears that I was
charged for two initial minutes, one in each rate period for a
multiple rate period call. I thought the initial minute charge was a
one time per call charge.
Anyone for requiring the Bells to provide rate tariffs to any person
requesting them (instead of going through FCC copies in Washington or
local Public Utility Commissions)?
If anyone can verify or correct my calculations, please let me know
(via post or e-mail).
Below is the relevant bill information, rates, and my calculations.
Did I make an error? Should there only be one initial minute (or first
minute) charge per call?
Thanks.
AT&T billed vs Ameritech Calculated:
Ameritech
Code AT&T Billed Calculated
Call 1 6-9-94 (Thur) AEM 8:58P 21 minutes $ .46 $ .505
Call 2 6-22-94 (Wed) AEM 1:51P 30 minutes $ .95 $ 1.056
Ameritech Rates: (from front of local phone book)
Miles Mon-Fri 9am-11am Mon-Fri 8am-9am Other hrs
2pm-8pm 11am-2pm & 8pm-9pm Sat-Sun-Hol
15-40 First Minute $ .104 $ .094 $ .062
Additional Min. $ .034 $ .031 $ .020
Day Evening Nights
AT&T rates:
First Minute $ .094 $ .085 $ .055
23 miles Additional Min. $ .030 $ .023 $ .0186
(Note: approximate rates from 1-800-222-0300 operator.)
How AT&T may have over billed me for Call 2. My calculation of the
charges amounts to $ .899 or $.90 -- but I think they truncate instead
of round so it might even be $.89
My calculated break down of Call 2:
151P Initial minute $ .085 (1) * (.085)
152-200P 8 addl mins $ .184 (8) * (.023)
200-221 21 addl min $ .63 (21) * (.030)
=======
$ .899
What I think happened is that AT&T charged me for two Initial Minutes.
One when the call was started and one when the rate period changed.
How it might have been billed by AT&T:
151P Initial minute $ .085 (1) * (085)
152-200P 8 addl mins $ .184 (8) * (.023)
200-201P Initial minute $ .094 (1) * (.094)
201-221P 20 addl min $ .60 (20) * (.030)
=======
$ .963
(Well, they were approximate rates)
(or maybe they truncate for each calculation)
151P Initial minute $ .08 (1) * (085)
152-200P 8 addl mins $ .18 (8) * (.023)
200-201P Initial minute $ .09 (1) * (.094)
201-221P 20 addl min $ .60 (20) * (.030)
=======
$ .95 (the actual amount billed)
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From: rpatel@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Rachana D Patel)
Subject: Theoretical Maximum Limits of Packets per Second
Date: 6 Jul 1994 13:57:14 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
I was wondering if anyone knew how theoretical maximum packets per
seconds are computed given a certain size packet. For example, 64 Byte
packets have a limit of 14,880 pps in ethernet.
If one computes this by hand even with an overhead of 14 or 18 bytes,
one cannot reach the given number.
The limit for ethernet is 10Mbps:
10,000 bits per sec / [ (64 Bytes + Overhead Bytes) * (8bits per byte) ]
The numbers I get are much larger than 14,880. Am I missing something?
Thanks in advance,
Rachana D. Patel University of Pennsylvania
rpatel@eniac.seas.upenn.edu Telecommunication Systems &
Management and Technology Program Strategic Management
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From: phil@rochgte.fidonet.org (Phillip Dampier)
Reply-To: phil@rochgte.fidonet.org
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 1994 10:41:02 -0500
Subject: Bell Atlantic Cuts Long Distance Rates
BELL ATLANTIC CUSTOMERS BENEFIT FROM REDUCED TOLL RATES BETWEEN 302
AND 215/610 AREA CODES - July 5, 1994
Wilmington, DE -- Bell Atlantic customers in Delaware and southeastern
Pennsylvania can now make toll calls between the 302 and 215/610 area
codes at significantly reduced rates. Customers will save $3.7
million annually as the result of the lower toll rates.
The reductions are the sixth by Bell Atlantic in the last four years
for toll calls between the 302 and 215/610 area codes. The new rates
were implemented July 2, 1994 following FCC approval.
"We believe our customers will benefit from the new lower toll rates,"
said Carolyn S. Burger, president and CEO of Bell Atlantic - Delaware.
"The fact is that Bell Atlantic's standard toll rates for calls
between 215 and 610 area codes and Delaware are lower, on balance,
than our competitors' standard rates."
For example, the new day rate for a four minute call between Newark,
Delaware and Philadelphia is 92 cents, a 12.4% reduction. The new day
rate for a five minute call between Valley Forge and Dover is $1.15, a
15.4% reduction.
Burger said Bell Atlantic's night and weekend toll rates have been
reduced as well. "Our goal is to delight our customers by providing
the highest quality service at competitive prices. We are pleased
that the FCC has approved our rate reduction proposal."
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From: benwright@lsupoz.apana.org.au (Ben Wright)
Subject: Two Antennas For One Car Phone
Date: 6 Jul 1994 22:12:59 +1000
Organization: Linux Support OZ +61-2-418-8750
I've seen some cars with two antenna for their one phone. Apparently
one antenna transmits while both antenna receive. The guy at the
service centre said that with this antenna system you can get up to
four times the distance over a normal antenna, plus, you get less
static on the line when the car is moving slow.
Is there anything in this, should I go out and get it installed?
Ben
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From: johnr@meaddata.com (John Ray)
Subject: LAN Certification Process
Date: 6 Jul 1994 19:41:30 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Hello LAN Gurus, I am in need of help.
I have been tasked with the effort of developing a certification
process for introducing new components/technology (i.e. new hubs,
routers, LAN attached printers, NIC's etc).
If anyone has some documentation on such a process, or an outline, or
anything I would be very grateful.
Any help or information would be very much appreciated -- Thanks !!
John Ray (513) 865-1077
Mead Data Central Distributed Net. Eng.
P.O. Box 933 johnr@meaddata.com
Dayton,Ohio 45401 ...!uunet!meaddata!johnr
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 94 12:51:26 EDT
From: Carl Moore <cmoore@ARL.MIL>
Subject: Ridgeley, W.Va. - No Dialing Changes Found
Ridgeley, W. Va. is served by 726 and 738 in area code 304. I have
found the old instructions (1+7D for long distance within 304 and 7D
for local to other area) still in use, with the new instructions (7D
for long distance within 304 and 1+NPA+7D for local to other area) not
even useable. Ridgeley is local to Cumberland (Md.).
In addition, a pay phone 738-xxxx had area code 301 on it! (In an
unrelated item: a store window showed a poster for someone running for
sheriff of Allegany County, MARYLAND; perhaps many people going down
to Ridgeley from Maryland?)
------------------------------
From: mack@win.or.jp (Masakazu Nakano)
Subject: Wanted: Voice Mail System
Date: 6 Jul 1994 03:58:46 GMT
Organization: Internet provider WIN (World-wide Information Network),JAPAN
[wanted] Telephone line module for PC/AT.
Now I'm looking for any boards, dealers and more development
information.
Dialogic
Model DMX Digital Multiline Mixer ?
LSI-C Line amplifier ?
D/121B 12 line interface ?
D/41B 4 line interface ?
Vocalnet
ATI-24 , AG-24
Make offer , If you sell for me.
Please e-mail.
Masakazu Nakano e-mail: mack@yokohama.win.or.jp pxh03521@niftyserve.or.jp
------------------------------
From: keith.knipschild@asb.com
Organization: America's Suggestion Box - BBS (516) 471-8625
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 94 23:33:29
Subject: ISDN Residential Use?
I am interested in ISDN, and was wondering could it be used in
residential use?
From what I read I understand that there are 2 64k lines and a 16k.
What is a standard analog line?
Also, do you have one phone number with three lines for incomming and
outgoing? Would it be possible to be having a VOICE conversation,and
be online with your local BBS and beable to recieve a FAX all at the
same time with only one pair of wires coming into your house?
If I am asking to many DUMB questions, please refer me to a file that
I should DOWNLOAD.
Thanks,
Keith.knipschild@asb.com <<<<<<<<<<< Internet
70302,2701 <<<<<<<<<<< Compuserve
(516) 979 5348 <<<<<<<<<<< Voice
------------------------------
From: VANTEK@aol.com
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 94 03:56:40 EDT
Subject: Dial 114 For Dial-A-Verse Service
DIAL-A-VERSE SERVICE FOR TEHRAN KORAN LOVERS
NICOSIA, June 29 (Reuter) - Sex-phone lines offering erotic
conversations may be the rage in other countries, but in Iran the
latest telephone service features recitations from the Moslem holy
book, the Koran.
Tehran residents can now dial 114, then punch the chapter and verse
number to listen to one of the best Iranian Koran reciters go through
their favourite part of the Moslem holy book, Iranian television said
on Wednesday.
The number was chosen because there are 114 chapters in the Koran.
There are plans to expand the computerised service to 28 telephone
lines from the current 12. The report did not say if the service was
accessible to subscribers outside the Iranian capital or overseas.
------------------------------
From: doug.granzow@cynosure.clark.net (Doug Granzow)
Subject: Washington Post Article on Free Access Wanted
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 1994 00:00:57 GMT
Organization: Cynosure Online - 410-781-6271
-> The Washington Post had a story on either the 6/22 or 6/23 edition on
-> page 1 about how Maryland is offering Free Internet access. Is this
-> article available online? Does anyone have a copy of it they can eit
-> post on the Digest or send to me? I'm curious to read it.
Sorry, I don't have the article, but I did read it. Maryland is *not*
offering Free Internet access. Maryland is offering free Gopher
access, with slightly under 200 dialup lines for the entire state.
Full internet accounts will be available for a price. (Gopher + email
only costs $35/year, which is more than the $20 I charge my users for
email and Usenet.)
Doug Granzow - Ask me about Cynosure Online - 410-781-6271
Access to email and Usenet in Baltimore, MD - $20/year
dig@cynosure.clark.net - granzow@midget.towson.edu - dig@clark.net
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From: wjedwd@wmaster.isl.com (Julian Edwards)
Subject: Looking For US Radio Pager Info
Date: 06 Jul 1994 16:39:10 GMT
Organization: Internet Systems Ltd
I'm posting this on behalf of Martin Pitwood (s0tmp@exnet.com), who is
looking for any information he can get on US radio pagers. If there's
anyone out there that can help, he'd appreciate a mail, and explain in
more detail as to what he wants.
Reply set to s0tmp@exnet.com.
Thanks,
Julian Edwards, Internet Systems Ltd. Woking, Surrey, UK.
Internet: wjedwd@isl.com (preferred) or julian.edwards@isl.com (MSMAIL, aagh)
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From: plarkin@iphase.com (Patrick Larkin Jr)
Subject: AlphaNumeric Paging via Email
Date: 06 Jul 1994 10:50:41 -0500
Organization: Interphase Corporation - Dallas Texas
We are looking into a system supplied but SWB "MobileComm" that
provides alpha-numeric pagers and some software you install on a
MS-Windows system with a modem. The "operator" runs this program and
fills in the blanks, then the PC dials up some system and transmits
the page info.
What I WANT to do is put some program/script on my SMTP hub (a Sparc
system) and setup some email aliases so that anyone can mail to
'user-pager@domain' and it will send the Subject: and From: headers to
the pager as if it were a person keying in this info on that PC.
This seems like it would be much more useful for after hours paging
than physically using this 'magical' PC.
Has anyone done this? I am interested in ALL possibilities be they
freeware, commercial ($$) or just specs on what these systems expect
when you connect to them.
Thanks,
<plarkin@iphase.com> PATRICK LARKIN - System Administrator
#include <std_disclaimer.h> /* Interphase Corporation
#include "clever_quote_de_jour.h" /* Dallas TX - USA
------------------------------
From: jmorey@crl.com (John Morey)
Subject: Are Any Bellcore or ITU Docs Available via FTP?
Date: 6 Jul 1994 06:59:28 -0700
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
I was wondering if Bellcore or ITU documents are available via FTP?
Thanks for any info.
John Morey - jmorey@crl.com
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yes there are, and this question is asked
very frequently. Users can respond to you directly with the information
if they wish. PAT]
------------------------------
From: jmorey@crl.com (John Morey)
Subject: Looking For a TMN Compatable Object Builder But Having no Luck
Date: 6 Jul 1994 07:02:38 -0700
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
I have been told to find a TMN (?) compatable object builder. Not
sure what it is except that it has something to do with SONET. I have
not had any luck so far. Anyone have any pointers?
Thanks for any info.
John Morey - jmorey@crl.com
------------------------------
From: RANDY@MPA15AB.mv-oc.Unisys.COM
Date: 06 JUL 1994 15:01:00 GMT
Subject: Royal Dutch PTT Telecom Wins Unisys Customerize Award For Excellence
THREE CLIENTS NAMED WINNERS OF CUSTOMERIZE AWARD FOR EXCELLENCE
Signet Banking Corporation of Richmond, Virginia, the Social Security
System of the Republic of the Philippines and the Royal Dutch PTT
Telecom B.V. of the Netherlands have been recognized as winners of the
1994 Unisys Customerize Award for Excellence, recognizing the leading
customer-oriented organizations from entries submitted from among
Unisys 60,000 worldwide customer base.
Two years ago, Unisys embarked on a global program designed to assist
its clients in providing better service to their customers. As part
of this initiative, the 1994 Customerize Award winners were selected
because of their exemplary commitment to customer requirements, the
operation and efficiency of their customer service organizations, the
aligning of their information strategy to better meet customer needs
and their overall understanding and dedication to helping the customer
work closer with their customers.
Unisys Customerize program is more than just selecting award
recipients. The Customerize concept is based on the premise that
customers deserve, and today demand, that companies and government
agencies treat them for what they are -- the source of revenue for the
organization and the reason for the organization's existence.
"Without clients, there is no business, no service industry, no
justification for running an operation," says Victor Millar,
president, Unisys Worldwide Information Services, which sponsors the
international competition. "We have taken the original idea that our
client is number one and added additional components, believing that
if our client is important, then our clients' clients are just as
important."
Unisys has implemented customer-oriented activities around the world,
including extensive training programs, special events and an ongoing
series of symposia and workshops designed to help organizations learn
more about what it takes to put customers' needs first and to be
successful at it. The selection of the three winners for the 1994
Customerize awards is a key element in this program.
Top executives in each winning organization are being honored at
special events in their country or area. The winners will be presented
with a unique Steuben Crystal Customerize Award and invited to
participate in or send an executive to a special one week customer-
centered course co-sponsored by Unisys, on "Managing Service:
Reengineering for Customer Satisfaction" at the University of
Pennsylvania's Wharton School of Business.
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FCC Callback Ruling (Leroy Casterline)
Book Review: "Using C-Kermit" by ds Cruz/Gianone (Rob Slade)
Recommendations For Lightning Protection (Bert Roseberry)
Questions About NYNEX Ringmate (Jeffrey W. McKeough)
Workshop - User Interfaces for Communications Systems (Ashok Gupta)
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Seeking Info on TAPI/TSAPI SDK (Ed Pimentel)
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From: casterli@csn.org (Leroy Casterline)
Subject: FCC Callback Ruling
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 1994 13:18:48 -0600
Organization: Cahill Casterline Limited
Reply-To: casterli@csn.org
Pat,
Sorry it took me so long to post this. I was hoping to OCR it from a
fax, but no such luck. I typed it in, so any errors are mine ...
Leroy
Report No. CC-572 Common Carrier Action April 22, 1994
FCC AUTHORIZES THREE APPLICANTS TO PROVIDE
RESOLD INTERNATIONAL SWITCHED VOICE SERVICE
The Commission has granted the applications of VIA USA, Ltd.
(Viatel), Telegroup, Inc., and Discount Call International Co. (DCI),
to resell the public switched services of other U.S. carriers, over
the objection of AT&T.
Viatel is a Colorado corporation that sought authority to
offer resold, tariffed international switched voice and facsimile
service between the United States and various international points.
Telegroup, an Iowa corporation, sought authority to offer resold
international switched voice and data service between the United
States and various international points. DCI, a Florida corporation,
sought authority to operate a "typical telephone dialback operation"
between points in the United States and various South American and
Central American countries.
AT&T, in its petition to deny, alleged that the applicants
intended to engage in a "call turn-around" or "call-back" service.
AT&T opposed the applications to the extent that the applicants
proposed to use the resold services to provide call-back services
using a "code-calling" configuration. AT&T stated that a reseller
using "code-calling" instructs its customers in foreign locations
to dial a U.S. telephone number, hang up after a pre-arranged
number of rings, but before the call is completed, and wait for the
reseller (usually through a conferencing unit) to return a call to
the predesignated foreign telephone number, providing U.S. dial
tone to the foreign customer. The connection between the calling
and the called party is established via a U.S-originated switched
service call to the called location. The customer does not pay the
foreign carrier for the initial uncompleted call.
After reviewing the applications and pleadings, the Commission
found that the public convenience and necessity will be served by
granting the applications to resell the international switched voice
services of various U.S. common carriers. Moreover, the Commission
could not find, based on the record, that uncompleted call signalling
("code-calling") constituted an unreasonable practice under Section
201(b) of the Communications Act.
The Commission has long recognized that increased competition
in the international marketplace benefits U.S. ratepayers, and has
routinely granted applications for Section 214 authorizations for the
resale of international switched voice services to further that goal.
The Commission believes the proposed services would provide
similar benefits associated with increased competition, in line with
its statutory mandate to establish a rapid, efficient, nation- wide,
and worldwide wire and radio communications service. The Commission
noted that use of the resold services for international call-back
activity could place significant downward pressure on foreign
collection rates, to the ultimate benefit of U.S. ratepayers and
industry.
The commission disagreed with AT&T that uncompleted call
signalling constituted an unreasonable practice under Section 201 of
the Act, or otherwise was not in the public interest. The Commission
reemphasized, however, that resellers of U.S. switched voice services
are common carriers and continue to be subject to obligations of
common carriers, including those in Sections 201(b) and 214.
AT&T alleged that this activity imposed costs on its
ratepayers through use of its facilities without compensation.
However, the Commission agreed with the applicants that AT&T had
presented no evidence that uncompleted call signalling occurred often
enough or made sufficient us of the network to impede
revenue-producing use of the network by AT&T or to otherwise impose
costs on AT&T or its ratepayers. The Commission noted that AT&T and
its foreign correspondents have the ability to address uncompleted
call signalling practices that are imposing costs on them.
In response to concerns expressed by AT&T and by certain
foreign carriers about the effect of uncompleted call signalling on
principles of international comity, the Commission required that the
applicants provide service in a manner that is consistent with the
laws of countries in which they operate. However, the Commission
recognized that the legality of the proposed activities under foreign
law is a matter for foreign authorities and courts to decide.
Action by the Commission April 12, 1994, by Order,
Authorization and Certificate (FCC 94-96). Chairman Hundt,
Commissioners Quello and Barrett.
-FCC-
News Media contact: Patricia A. Chew at (202) 632-5050.
Common Carrier Bureau contact: Adam L. Kupetsky at (202) 632-1305.
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Date: Wed, 06 Jul 1994 12:47:48 MDT
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Using C-Kermit" by ds Cruz/Gianone
BKUSCKMT.RVW 940404
Digital Press / Butterworth-Heinemann
225 Wildwood Street Woburn, MA 01801
Voice: 1-800-366-BOOK Fax: 1-617-933-6333
or
Kermit Distribution Columbia University
612 West 115th Street New York, NY 10025
Voice: 1-212-854-3703 Fax: 1-212-663-8202
Email: kermit@columbia.edu
"Using C-Kermit", da Cruz/Gianone, 1993, 1-55558-108-0
fdc@columbia.edu cmg@columbia.edu
Kermit is the most widely available communications software in the
world. Versions on some platforms, however, may lack features
available on others. Also, there may be a few computers to which
Kermit has not been ported. This is where C-Kermit comes in.
C-Kermit is the C language source code for a very feature-rich version
of Kermit, very similar in function to the highly mature MS-DOS
version of Kermit. This is the native version for at least four of
the Kermit versions on major platforms, and there is no longer any
reason not to have a Kermit for *your* machine.
This is the user level manual for C-Kermit. (General advice on
porting, configuration and compiling is included with the source,
available from the Kermit distribution centre at Columbia University.
Extensive documentation and back issues of the Info-Kermit digest are
also available.) Well thought out, well presented, well written, the
book is an excellent addition to the previous "Kermit: a file transfer
protocol" (BKKERMIT.RVW) and "Using MS-DOS Kermit" (BKUMSKMT.RVW).
The structure and order of the book is logically organized for users,
new and old. Chapter three states that it assumes you are familiar
with the basic data communications parameters. If you are not, it
directs you to a comprehensive tutorial in appendix two. The only
minor oddity in the arrangement is that scripting, possibly of most
use to non-programming users, comes after the chapters on macros and
programming. This is intended to give some basic programming concepts
prior to introducing scripts, since the book assumes no programming
background. It is, however, possible to write simple scripts without
much in the way of conditional structures, controls or variables, and
it would be a pity if non-programmers gave up too early to find this
out.
C-Kermit will likely become, as far as possible, the standard for the
Kermit interface and functions. This, therefore, will be the standard
Kermit user guide.
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1994 BKUSCKMT.RVW 940404. Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated newsgroups/mailing lists.
Vancouver p1@arkham.wimsey.bc.ca "If a train station
Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca is where a train
Research into rslade@cue.bc.ca stops, what happens
User p1@CyberStore.ca at a workstation?"
Security Canada V7K 2G6 Frederick Wheeler
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From: Bert Roseberry <ROSEBERRY@Eisner.DECUS.Org>
Subject: Recommendations For Lightning Protection
Organization: Digital Equipment Computer Users Society
Date: 6 Jul 94 14:52:04 -0400
Any recommendations on in-line lightning protection for the typical
residential phone?
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Date: Wed, 06 Jul 1994 04:01:12 -0400
From: jwm@student.umass.edu (Jeffrey W. McKeough)
Subject: Questions About NYNEX Ringmate
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
I'm considering getting Ringmate from NYNEX to help me screen calls.
I have caller ID, but for the time being it only works on intra-LATA
calls. I also get a large number of local calls (both business and
personal) from UMass/Amherst's MD-110 PBX, all of which show up as
"out of area." I would like to give one Ringmate number to my family
and distant friends, one to my friends locally, and use my main number
for all other callers.
I have a number of questions about the way the Ringmate feature is
handled in NYNEXville (and elsewhere):
1) Does NYNEX charge to have the Ringmate numbers nonpublished, or can
they be set up as "special non-listed" as with a second line?
2) If I choose to have all three numbers assigned to Call Forwarding
Variable, will the distinctive ringing pattern be preserved through
the forward? (If it helps, my line is on a 5ESS.)
3) I have been considering getting collect/third party blocking on my
main number. (This after an incident last summer when my housemate's
friend called several 900 and 800 callback-collect phone numbers. 900
blocking is already in place.) I have been reluctant, since there are
certain people from whom I would accept collect calls in an emergency.
Would it be possible to block only my main published number, while
still allowing collect calls to the Ringmate numbers? This would
eliminate any further housemate/friend incidents, since the callback
would be to the ANI of the main number, but it would allow those in
possession of my Ringmate numbers to call collect if necessary.
4) I have Call Answering with busy/no answer forwarding. Can I have
the Ringmate numbers programmed to forward to call answering even if I
decide not to have them assigned to variable forwarding?
5) There has been discussion in the Digest about selecting vanity
numbers. Every company seems to have a different policy about what
numbers they will offer the customer and what fee, if any, they
charge. Does anybody have any experience with NYNEX (MA) in this
area? (I guess I could call my aunt, who's an area operations manager
in Eastern MA, and see if she could do anything, but I'd rather not
bother her if it's a simple matter.)
6) An AT&T EasyReach question: Will AT&T allow me to assign one of the
Ringmate numbers as my default number? It would make sense since I
give that number out to the same people who I would give my Ringmate
number to, and they might call via EasyReach if they thought I wasn't
at home. I could also forward PIN calls to the non-default Ringmate
number, which would allow me to tell if, say, my brother had called
with or without his PIN. (I know that the calls are EasyReach because
the "gee whiz" factor always causes people to mention that they used
the 700 number.)
Thanks in advance for any information.
Jeffrey W. McKeough jwm@student.umass.edu
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From: gupta@prlhp1.prl.philips.co.uk (Ashok Gupta)
Subject: Workshop - User Interfaces for Communications Systems
Date: 6 Jul 94 09:14:55 GMT
Reply-To: gupta@prl.philips.co.uk
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories, Redhill, UK
Workshop Programme
"User Interfaces of Communication Systems"
Workshop of Special Interest Group 2.1.2
"Interactive Systems"
German Computer Society (GI)
to be held
in Hamburg, Germany,
during the Annual Conference of GI
and IFIP-Congress'94
"Computer and Communications Evolution
- The Driving Forces -"
Wednesday, August 31, 1994, 14:00 - 17:30 pm
On the occasion of the 25th anniversary of the Gesellschaft fuer
Infor- matik, the German Computer Society GI, the 13th International
IFIP World Congress will be held in Hamburg, Germany, together with
the Annual Con- ference 1994 of the GI from August 28 through
September 2, 1994.
In the settings of the Congress/Conference the German Special Interest
Group 2.1.2 of GI, "Interactive Systems", will organize in its 22nd
year of work a workshop "User Interfaces of Communication Systems"
covering topics related to the use of computer systems based on modern
communication technologies.
Modern communication technologies used in public digital networks or
distributed computer systems demand new requirements in user
interfaces of applications, both for network management organisations
and for net- work users. Specifically there exist problems in the
partly desired transparency of functional distribution, in explicit
network management by the user, as well as in the manner in which
users and system compo- nents cooperate in local and global networks.
The workshop concentrates on aspects of the user interface, rather
than the design, construction and running of networks themselves.
The workshop addresses problems and issues in such areas as electronic
mail and publication services, user interfaces to control and to
access scientific and other information networks, user interfaces of
communica- tion devices, and user interfaces in multi-user
applications. Examples to be covered are new interaction techniques
for operating telephones, user interfaces for wide-area networks,
video-conferencing in its diffe- rent forms, tools and techniques for
designing and implementing multi- user applications, mobile computing,
and knowledge-based communication systems.
Relevant problems and vital issues of the computer and communication
evolution are addressed in this workshop -- two fields which continue
to grow together and influence each other in this decade and the next.
The papers to be presented deal with the human-computer interaction of
these existing and future computer-communication systems as seen from
diffe- rent angles, presenting various views of the field.
Programme Committee: Coordinator:
K. Froitzheim, Ulm, Germany Prof. Dr. Gerd Szwillus
P. Gorny, Oldenburg, Germany Universitaet - GH -
H.-J. Hoffmann, Darmstadt, Germany Paderborn,
D. Jaepel, Zuerich, Switzerland FB Mathematik/Informatik
P. Schulthess, Ulm, Germany D-33095 Paderborn
G. Szwillus, Paderborn, Germany Phone intl+49+5251+60+2077
(Chairman) Fax intl+49+5251+60+3836
E-mail szwillus@uni-paderborn.de
Programme
Session 1 August 31, 14:00 - 15:30 pm Chair Prof. G. Szwillus
On the way to Knowledge-based Human-Computer-Human-Communication
R. Gunzenhaeuser, W. Dilly, M. Ressel
University in Stuttgart, Dept. of Computer Science
(in German)
Usage of Communication Services with Drag-and-drop Techniques
K. Froitzheim, P. Schulthess
University in Ulm, Unit Distributed Systems
(in German)
Adaptive User Interfaces for Electronic Net Services
H. Dieterich, M. Schneider-Hufschmidt, N. V. Carlsen
Siemens AG, ZFE ST SN 51, Munich
(in German)
Session 2 August 31, 16:00 - 17:30 pm Chair Prof. P. Schulthess
Interfaces for handling Multimedia Communication Systems
M. Zajicek, X. Cao, D. Shrimpton, A. Tagg, J. Lehuby,
D. Parish, P. Coventry, I. Phillips, J. Griffiths
Oxford Brookes University & Loughborough University of Technology
(in English)
Aspects in User Interface Design for Mobile Multi-user Applications
H.-W. Gellersen
University in Karlsruhe, Telecooperation group
(in German)
The Virtual Office as a User Interface for Cooperative Working
M. Sohlenkamp
Gesellsch. f. Mathematik und Datenverarbeitung (GMD),
Sankt Augustin
(in German)
Inquiries regarding the workshop to
Prof. Szwillus, Univ. Paderborn, szwillus@uni-paderborn.de
Inquiries regarding the IFIP Congress and the GI-Conference to
Prof. Wolfinger, Univ. Hamburg,
wolfinger@rz.informatik.uni-hamburg.d400.de
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From: wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith)
Subject: Looking For a Phone Number: Country-Wide Instead of Area-Code
Date: 5 Jul 1994 02:51:46 GMT
Reply-To: wlsmith@heartlab.rri.uwo.ca
I'm trying to locate a particular company (Periscoptics) but all I
have to go on is the name. I have no clue as to where they might be
located. I've tried 1-800-555-1212, but, since I'm in Canada, all I
can verify is that this company has no 1-800 number that works up
here.
So, instead of going through all the possible combinations of 1-xxx-555-1212,
is there any way I can find out where this company is, or what their phone
number is?
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Possibly some reader familiar with the
company will write and give you their address and/or phone number. PAT]
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From: epimntl@netcom.com (Ed Pimentel)
Subject: Seeking Info on TAPI/TSAPI SDK
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 01:11:34 GMT
I am seeking information on pc based voice/fax/data software toolkits.
Who is supporting MS TAPi and or AT&T/ Novell TSAPI? Who supports
Vbasic vbx? or Powerbuilder, Novell App Ware? What are there
licensing arrangements? Are there any who provides drivers/vbx that
supports the AT+ V options for modems? Who has low cost PC based dsp
boards that support fax/voice/v.fast and or the latest voice view
standard?
Thanks in advance,
Ed Pimentel
p.o. box 95901 epimntl@netcom.com
Atlanta, Ga. 30347-0901 epimntl@cybmondo.atl.ga.us
404-985-1763 voice 70611,3703@compuserve
404-985-1198 Fax/Data/CMC
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From: wangdo@ecf.toronto.edu (WANG DONG-JUN)
Subject: Looking For Source Code ...
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 22:20:20 -0400
Hi, folks:
I am looking for C library functions which provide interrupt driven
RS-232 communications up to 115k baud for up to 34 COM ports, and
support: hardware handshaking and Xon/Xoff;NS 16550 UART; ANSI and
VT52/100 terminal emulation; Kermit, ZModem and YModem and YModem
protocols.
Does any one have the above source code or know the ftp site?
Thank you for your time.
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Date: Thu, 07 Jul 1994 05:34:44 GMT
From: jwm@student.umass.edu (Jeffrey W. McKeough)
Subject: 1-800-COLLECT vs. 1-800-OPERATOR/CALL-ATT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
After seeing the 8934th ad touting the benefits of COLLECT vs.
CALL-ATT, I decided to call the respective carriers and find out who
really has the lowest collect surcharge. The result: it's a tie.
Both MCI and AT&T charge $1.50/call (plus the appropriate per-minute
rate) for parties receiving collect calls through these services.
AT&T charges $.55 more for a "live" operator ($2.05), and I forgot to
ask what MCI charges.
An interesting note: AT&T said that they will discount 1-800-CALL-ATT
collect calls for True USA customers, while MCI said that 1-800-COLLECT
calls are charged at the full rate to their customers, since the
collect calls do not come from a calling circle member. MCI calls
accepted by AT&T customers will not receive any discount. So I guess
that if you are an AT&T True USA subscriber (which I am), 1-800-CALL-ATT
offers you a better deal.
Of course the ads try to persuade the caller, and not the recipient,
so I guess I only get a discount if AT&T's ads work. It's interesting
that here you have a case in which the billed party has no control
over the carrier selection. (Other than to refuse the call, but
depending on the circumstances that might not be a good idea.)
Jeffrey W. McKeough jwm@student.umass.edu
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From: chui@netcom.com (Cedric Hui)
Subject: China-HK Telecom Development
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 06:38:39 GMT
Last month Motorola announced that it is investing US$40 million in
Hong Kong to develop a high speed wireless computing network based on
the latest microcellular packet switched technology.
In the meantime Northern Telecom introduced the Proximity family of
wireless access equipment for telephone networks at the Pan-Asia
Wireless Local Loop Summit Conference in Hong Kong.
Since China and HK are tied closely both politically and economically,
these recent telecommunications developments are significant that it
shows the readiness of the China-HK telecom market in deployment of
new technology and the growth potential of the market.
The June 94 issue of the LAN magazine cited that "Both (Chinese)
gov't and private enterprise are including computer and telecommunications
businesses among the industries to receive top priority in financial
backing." and "the International Data Corp studies project a
growth rate in China's information technology market of between 14.5%
and 18.5% per year between 1991-1995%".
Amidst the growth potential of the vast market and the absent of
telecommunications infrastructure in some area, China will enjoy the
advantage of transfering advance technologies from the West, avoid
pitfalls and obsolete technologies.
By the way, the Computer Network Center of Chinese Academy of Science
has recently established direct connected to the Internet to the US.
The people's Republic of China's top level domain is CN-DOM.
Initially, the CAS, Tsinghua & Beijing University' campus networks
will be connected to Internet via Stockton(US). China has also
decided to construct nation wide education computer networks which
connect six universities by the end of this year thru X.25 network.
Perhaps, not too far off, we will see a China offramp sign on the
Information superhighway.
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TELECOM Digest Fri, 8 Jul 94 13:44:00 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 312
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
China's Telecom Structure (Cedric Hui)
Telco's Records - Do They Include CNID? (Danny Burstein)
Exchanges Local to Entire LATA (Steve Arlow)
Sprint to Face the Wrath Of Ernie!! (Jack Winslade)
Forwarded Mail From Russia (Lars Poulsen)
Help on Research (Fausto Zambrano)
USA Area Code Databases w/Zip (Cory Krell)
Long Distance Telemarketers (David A. Moe)
DECT - Datacommunications ? (Lars Kalsen)
Strange CNID Name Text (Clifton T. Sharp)
AT&T Response to Sprint (DeFantom@aol.com)
Comparisons of U.S. and Canadian Telecommuinication Costs (Mitch Dawson)
Cheapest Way to Call Israel and South Africa From the USA? (krazykev@panix)
Billing Software for LD Company (Hindra Irawan)
SL-1 PBX Information Needed (login_name@hookup.net)
Cyber Sabre Giveaway - Enter and Win NOW! (Earl Christy)
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From: chui@netcom.com (Cedric Hui)
Subject: China's Telecom Structure
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 07:33:18 GMT
In responding to some enquiries on China telecommunications
infrastructure, I found an excellent reference published in the
September 1993 issue of the "Electronics News for China". This is
my first attempt in Chinese to English translation. Please let me
know if I have used the wrong technical term in the translation (I
am sure the experienced will spot the error by context).
This part of the article covers the structure of the
telecommunications network of China and an overview of China's
telecommunications policy.
Cedric
---------
The critical moment as China entering the booming era of telecommuni-
cations development.
Economic reform, the opening of the market economy and the top
pripority placed in telecommunications as strategic economic policy,
provides the favorable conditions for improvement and expansion in
China's telecommunications industry, as well as foreign investment
opportunity in China.
written by Tan, Shu Cheng
Deputy Chief Engineer
Technology Intelligent Center
Ministry of Posts & Telecommunications of PRC
------------------
As the modern world is entering the Information Age, the
development of the society become more relying on the support of
information. Economic activities, like manufacturing,
distributing, trading and comsumer spending, generate enormous
information. They are manipulated, processed and transported
through the communication networks which in turn connect societies
into an unified virtual entity. Telecommunication as the society's
infrastructure and the essentail element in supporting the economic
development has received top priority in the national development
policy in China.
Since the reform and the opening of the Chinese market,
Chinese economy has achieved prominent improvemnets. The
increase of economic activities incite the growth of information
exchange. In fact, the growth rate of the telecommunications
industry has exceeded the national economic growth and is the
major factor in the high growth of the Chinese economy.
Currently, China's reform is entering another new era of
development. As new demands for telecommunications services come
to light, China's telecommunications industry is once again facing
the challenge of new demands and requiremnets. This is the
critical moment as China entering the booming era of
telecommunications development.
The Structure of the Telecommunications Network and its
Management System
China's telecommunication network consist of the national
public network and the departmental proprietary networks (Rail,
Power, Oil etc). The public Network is the backbone of the
national telecommunications network. Propeitary networks are
supplemental to the public network.
The public network is based on the long distance telephone
network and is organised into 5 levels of hierarchical network
structure. The first levels exchange centers are directly
connected to form the network in the highest hierarchy and each
lower level exchange centers connect directly to the higher level
exchange centers. Lower level connection within the same
hierarchy are mainly handled by switching with supplemented some
number of direct circuits.
Level 1 exchange centers serve between and among capital
and provinces (Wide-Area Center). They are the communication
hub for provinces(including Autonomy) within a Wide-Area. There
are also supplemental inter-provincial exchange center in some
geophically larger or economically more developed area.
Level 2 are provincial centers. Being the communication
hub for the province or autonomy, a level 2 exchange center
serves regional areas and cities within the province. Supplemetal
provincial center may be established if needed.
Level 3 center is regional exchange center serves between
and among counties. It's location is usually confined to its
services area.
The main function of the level 1 to level 3 exchange
center is to facilitate long distance telephone service within
its service area.
Level 4 is the terminating point for long distance
telephone services. Its service area includes the towns and
villeges within the same county. Level 5 is the local central
office switches.
In recent years, digital electronic systems are more
widely used in China and the expansion of the regional
economies lead to the increase of local telephone networks.
The telephone network structure will gradually be simplified
and the levels in the hierarchy be reduced.
Local telephone network as opposed to the national long
distance telephone network is confined to a regional area.
Its service area may include a certain number of central
offices and exchange centers which forms a dialing zone.
There is a long distance telephone network access point
in the local telephone network and its level is defined by
its hierarchy in the long distance telephone network. Thus,
based on the concept of local and long distance telephone
network, the long distance telephone access point is not
part of the local telephone network structure.
The local telephone network model may seems to resemble
the traditional municipal telephone system. However, the local
telephone network has a much wider service area compare to the
municipal telephone system. For instance, the Beijing municipal
telephone system includes Beijing city and the near suburban
area while the Beijing local telephone network also includes the
surround 10 counties.
With China's telecommunications development as a national
policy and the long term interest of the national
telecommunications infrastructure in mind, knowing that the
telecommunications infrastructure is relatively backward, the
management and development of the national public telephone
network will be the responsibility of the government. In order
to accelerate telecommunications development and centralized
limited resouces, the Ministry of Posts & Telecommunications
of the People's Republic of China will centralize the regulating,
development and the management of the most of the
telecommunications services for the public telephone network
with some services open to the private sector. The Ministry of
Posts & Telecommunications will seek a cooperative relations
with the proprietary networks in network development and
integration based on the priciple of mutual benefit and
acess compensation.
------------------------------
From: dannyb@panix.com (danny burstein)
Subject: Telco's Records - Do They Include CNID?
Date: 8 Jul 1994 04:13:06 -0400
As all folk who read TELECOM Digest know, the majority of United
States telco central office switches now have full detail records of
all calls made from your phone (i.e. time it was made and the number
you called), and also keeps track of calls made -to- you.
This is, of course, something which has been phased in over the past
few decades as the switches have become more and more advamced. (In
the old days, as far too many of us recall, billing was done by
mechanical counters which were photographed each month, but I
digress ...)
Which brings to mind a question about what data fields are actually
kept. Specifically, what I'd like to know (and hopefully someone out
in digest land may know the answer) is if these records, now that CNID
is phasing in nationwide, store the number calling you.
We've had a couple of high profile cases involving telecom in NYC, i.e.
the World Trade Center bombing, and telco records were one of the things
used in the investigation and prosecution. For example, they got the
records from the suspects' home telephones which showed, let's say, a
call coming in at 16:45.
Given this specific case, I'm sure the gendarmes had the people and
computer access to have every CO in the tristate area queried with a
'what calls were made between 16:44 and 16:46 and were any of tehm made
to this phone number?" type of check, but what about a more routine and
less public investigation?
(One of the results of this was that the federales tracked calls back to
a coin phone in a convenience store, which was fortuitously videotaped -
and they then got photos of teh suspects. Of course there are lots of
other things that were done which have never been disclosed, but that's
another story)
So if anyone knows if a) current CO programming keeps the CNID in one of
the fields, or b) this is an available "feature" which hasn't been
implemented or c) while not yet implemented it will be, etc., etc., could
you advise?
Thanks muchly,
Danny dannyb@panix.com (or dburstein@mcimail.com)
------------------------------
From: sea@umcc.umcc.umich.edu (Steve Arlow)
Subject: Exchanges Local to Entire LATA
Date: 7 Jul 1994 12:16:54 -0400
Organization: UMCC, Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Somehow, some providers of cellular, pager, and voice-mail services
get phone numbers in exchanges which are a *local* call from anywhere
within the LATA. And some of these companies are charging a flat rate
for their service, which seems to imply that these numbers can be had
for a flat monthly (or annual?) rate, regardless of usage.
How can one go about getting such a number? (My RBOC is Ameritech). I
suspect that this arrangement is only available to companies which are
willing to purchase an entire exchange. Does anyone know the details
of how this works? I can think of quite a number of other profitable
ways such an exchange could be used.
Steve Arlow, Yorick Software \ sea@umcc.umich.edu
39336 Polo Club Dr. #103, \ (810) 473-0920
Farmington Hills, MI 48335-5634 \ FAX select box 3
------------------------------
From: jsw@gonix.gonix.com (Jack Winslade)
Subject: Sprint to Face the Wrath Of Ernie!!
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 00:53:37 CDT
(For those of you not familiar with Omaha politics, State Senator
Ernie Chambers has represented Omaha's second district for as long as
I am aware. Ernie (he does not like to be addressed as 'Senator') has
developed a reputation as a gloves-off and very outspoken guy who is
very effective in representing his constituents. As far as I know, he
has never had a serious challenger for his office. Ernie is
originally a barber, and he holds a law degree from Creighton
University, but has never sought to be admitted to the Bar.)
State Senator Ernie Chambers invites his constituents to phone him
directly at his office in Lincoln, collect, if they ever have any need
to get in touch with him. (State offices in Lincoln are a toll call
from Omaha, and such a call will often cost more than a similar-length
call from Omaha to either coast. Such 50-mile calls are intrastate,
but inter-LATA, so they are handled by any of several carriers.) He's
had this policy for years, and receives many collect calls from
constituents, other taxpayers, and other elected officials.
Beginning June 22, for reasons that are still not clear, those trying
to phone Ernie collect using Sprint received an intercept stating that
collect calls were not permitted to that number. Users of other
carriers had no difficulty making collect calls to Chambers' office.
Ernie was made aware of this block on Wednesday, when a constituent
reported the intercept. He then asked a fellow Senator to try a
collect call from outstate, confirming the fact that Sprint was indeed
blocking those calls.
Ernie immediately contacted Sprint and demanded an explanation. He
also filed a complaint with the Public Service Commission. Sprint's
initial response (according to television station KETV) was that
Sprint had some trouble with a previous holder of Ernie's office phone
number. Ernie was enraged at the response, since Ernie has had that
number for more than ten years. He told a reporter "I will show them
(Sprint) what it is like to have their corporate throats attacked by
an enraged legislative pit-bull."
Historically, Ernie is well known for NOT letting things drop, and
carrying things through to the end when he believed he is right.
The department that oversees the state telephone system was not aware
that Sprint placed a block on the line. Chambers stated that he would
file a formal complaint with the PSC and explore the possibility of
legal action against Sprint.
Good day JSW
(Information above included material presented by the {Omaha World-Herald}
and television stations KETV and WOWT.)
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 03:27:02 PDT
From: lars@reggae.RNS.COM (Lars Poulsen)
Subject: Forwarded Mail From Russia
Date: 01 Jul 94 03:39:27 EDT
From: Ivan Bobrovnikov <75020.337@compuserve.com>
To: Lars <lars@spectrum.RNS.COM>
Subject: ISDN providers. please help
Lars,
I got your e-mail address in one of the telecom groups. Can ask you
for a favor to post an article on my behalf in comp.dcom.isdn or in
telecom digest (is Pat still around?)? I wish I could do that myself,
but do not know how to use the damn newsreader.
Thanks.
I'm trying to establish basic ISDN link between our office in Seattle,
WA and Moscow, Russia. Which companies should I go to for the service?
Is it all possible?
Please respond via e-mail: 75020.337@compuserve.com
Thanks,
Ivan Bobrovnikov
----- End Included Message -----
------------------------------
Date: 08 Jul 94 10:37:54 EDT
From: Fausto Zambrano <FZambran@Telecomm.MHS.CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Help on Research
Hello everyone!
I am helping a friend doing a research paper on the affects on
personnel productivity when the corporation decides to go multisite;
i.e. R&D is located in California and Headquarters in Michigan. How
telecommunications are affected in order to keep the sense of unity.
I have some books about this topic, but we need more input so If you
have any titles or articles that could help us, please send me an
E-Mail note.
Thanks again!!
Fausto Zambrano
Amway Telecommunications
Voice: 616-676-7039 ccMail: fzambran
E-Mail: fzambran@amwayusa.mhs.compuserve.com
------------------------------
From: cory@akix.cts.com (Cory Krell)
Subject: USA Area Code Databases w/Zip
Organization: BOI Inc.
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 1994 01:12:29 GMT
Hi, I'm looking for a database of USA areacodes and prefixes that also
includes Zip code and if needed, more address info. For example:
619-471-xxxx = 92069, San Marcos, CA
Does anyone know where I can find this?
Thanks in advance,
- Cory
(p.s. please e-mail me - my net connection is marginal.)
Cory Krell
cory@akix.cts.com - or - {nosc,ucsd,hplabs!hp-sdd}!crash!akix!cory
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The answers you want are right here with
long time Digest reader Carl Moore. I'm sure Carl will see this and be
in touch with you soon. PAT]
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 11:48:37 CDT
From: dmoe@ted.cray.com (David A. Moe)
Subject: Long Distance Telemarketers
I'm tired of being called by AT&T, MCI and Sprint asking to switch my
long distance phone service. I've (politely) asked to have my name
removed from their telemarketing list, but that doesn't seem to work.
My question is: Is there a list - similar to the "take my name off the
junkmail mailing list" - I can get my phone number added to to
avoid/stop these telemarketers (ALL telemarketers would be even
better, but I'm not greedy). Any and all responses would be
appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Dave
------------------------------
From: dalk@login.dkuug.dk (Lars Kalsen)
Subject: DECT - Datacommunications?
Date: 8 Jul 94 14:34:17 GMT
Organization: DKnet
Hi - outthere,
Can DECT systems be used for datatransmission - for example for
setting up a wireless LAN.
Plaese E-mail if you have any information.
Greetings,
Lars Kalsen dalk@login.dkuug.dk
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 01:43:14 CDT
From: clifto@indep1.chi.il.us (Clifton T. Sharp)
Subject: Strange CNID Name Text
The past couple of days, the name information that comes along with
CNID has been ending (sometimes) with " 0R", i.e. "Doe,John 0R". It's
intermittent and even calls from the same person might or might not
have it.
Does this ring a bell with anyone?
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Sure it does. Someone programming the
output at the central offices in question has one or more misplaced
or mismatched quote marks in a print statement. Maybe a semi-colon is
there instead of the correct terminator for a print statement. So when
it is sent out to your box, the text gets printed but the junk on the
end is some value; maybe the value of some string; they did not close
the quote correctly. Instead of the instruction being 'Print "name";
then do something' they screwed it up to be 'Print "name; do something".'
Well you get the idea. Is 0R possibly the value of a carriage return
or something like that in the language being used? Instead of taking
whatever action is accomplished by the opcode 0R (I assume it is an
operand to whatever comes before it or after it) its getting printed
out instead because of the way the quote was incorrectly closed. It is
intermittent because CNID comes from various servers or locations and
over various circuits, etc. Only one (hopefully) is screwed up. Get
handled by that equipment and you get the bug.
Ummm ... call 611 and tell 'em, will ya. <grin> ... If ya wanna send
information about your central office and the calling numbers, etc it
maybe some tech from the area will see it and try to help. PAT]
------------------------------
From: DeFantom@aol.com
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 94 22:09:15 EDT
Subject: AT&T Response to Sprint
Thought everyone would be interested in what AT&T had to say about the
Sprint deal.
(From AT&T Online)
AT&T COMMENTS ON SPRINT DEAL WITH FRENCH AND GERMAN CARRIERS
NEW YORK -- AT&T issued the following statement following an
announcement this morning by Sprint that it has signed a
memorandum of understanding with France Telecom and Deutsche
Telekom "to offer seamless global telecommunications services to
business, consumer and carrier markets worldwide."
"There's something very wrong when telephone companies
like the France Telecom and Deutsche Telekom monopolies can
buy into the U.S. telecom market while keeping their home
markets closed tighter than a drum.
"French and German businesses and consumers will be
denied lower prices and service innovations until there is
fair and open competition in their countries.
"We urge the United States government to condition
approval of the proposed equity investment in Sprint on the
French and German governments opening their
telecommunications markets on the same terms as the United
States market is open to France Telecom and Deutsche
Telekom."
------------------------------
From: Dawson, Mitch <DAWSONM@i7e.istc.ca>
Subject: Comparisons of U.S. and Canadian Telecommunication Costs
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 94 16:29:00 EST
Hello ... just a shot in the dark.
I am looking for any studies(or data) which compares the cost of
telecommunications in Canada and the U.S. Anything available on the NET
would be great!
Thanks for your time,
Mitch Dawson
dawsonm@i7e.istc.ca
------------------------------
From: krazykev@panix.com
Subject: Cheapest Way to Call Israel and South Africa From the USA?
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 1994 02:08:54 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Hi,
I make a lot of calls to Israel and South Africa.
Currently the only really cheap time for me to call is on the weekends
with Sprint's Most Worldwide Plan.
Normally weekends cost $.76/minute to Israel and $.75/minute to South
Africa.
Right now, until the end of 7/94 or so I can call for $.38/minute to
Israel and $.375/minute to South Africa, but only on the weekends.
I have seen rates dropping like crazy internationally and flat rate
plans seem to be popping up all over the place with calls to Europe as
low as 35 cents per minute, with six second billing and thirty seconds
minimum.
Has anyone seen low rates to Israel and South Africa for calling during
the week during our business day (9-5 EST)?
------------------------------
From: irawan@netcom.com (Hindra Irawan)
Subject: Billing Software for LD Company
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 1994 16:33:20 GMT
I am researching for my company looking for billing software, not call
accounting software for PBX. I need to find out if there publishers
out there that deals with billing software. Does anybody have a
recommendation or experience to share?
Thanks in advance,
Hindra MIS Manager
Bittel Telecommunications, inc.
------------------------------
From: login_name@hookup.net
Subject: SL-1 PBX Information Needed
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 1994 18:43:30 GMT
Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA
I am looking for tests to determine proper installation for Sl-1 PBX
specifications in areas where PBX security can be compromised and what
can be done to compensate. Lists of any publications that are
available on this topic would be appreciated.
This information is required for a PBX Audit.
------------------------------
From: bladerunner@ping (Earl Christy)
Subject: Cyber Sabre Giveaway - Enter and Win NOW!
Date: 7 Jul 1994 20:19:10 GMT
Organization: Amateur Radio Gateway WA4MEI, Chamblee, GA
There's an old saying about contests- "if you can't give away really
cool prizes don't even bother." So before starting this Internet
contest a group of Ohioans in pursuit of excellence invented the only
prize that would be totally new, extremely cyber, and absolutely
cutting edge. And now you can win it!
Introducing the Cyber Sabre -- the only cutting edge product ever
designed to be given away in cyberspace. Cyber Sabres are beautiful
limited-edition versions of the world famous Christy sliding-blade
pocket knife. Like all Christy knives, Cyber Sabres are handmade at
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Even with hundreds of Cyber Sabres up for grabs there's still no time
to waste. Quickly turn the page and enter now by filling in all the
fields including the number of knives [from one to one million] that
you'd like to see the Christy Company sell during 1994. Then send your
entry to: bladerunner@ping.com. Good luck and remember, Barnum Lives!
To get a picture of the Cyber Sabre, do an anonymous FTP to
ftp.netcom.com (/pub/contest). You can also find it in alt.binaries.
pictures.misc.
--- Official Cyber Sabre Contest Entry Form ---
name:
address:
city:
state:
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country:
phone:
e-mail:
# of knives:
This is a contest not a commercial. It is void where prohibited,
taxed, or otherwise restricted. The decision of the judges is final.
------------------------------
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TELECOM Digest Fri, 8 Jul 94 13:44:00 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 312
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
China's Telecom Structure (Cedric Hui)
Telco's Records - Do They Include CNID? (Danny Burstein)
Exchanges Local to Entire LATA (Steve Arlow)
Sprint to Face the Wrath Of Ernie!! (Jack Winslade)
Forwarded Mail From Russia (Lars Poulsen)
Help on Research (Fausto Zambrano)
USA Area Code Databases w/Zip (Cory Krell)
Long Distance Telemarketers (David A. Moe)
DECT - Datacommunications ? (Lars Kalsen)
Strange CNID Name Text (Clifton T. Sharp)
AT&T Response to Sprint (DeFantom@aol.com)
Comparisons of U.S. and Canadian Telecommuinication Costs (Mitch Dawson)
Cheapest Way to Call Israel and South Africa From the USA? (krazykev@panix)
Billing Software for LD Company (Hindra Irawan)
SL-1 PBX Information Needed (login_name@hookup.net)
Cyber Sabre Giveaway - Enter and Win NOW! (Earl Christy)
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From: chui@netcom.com (Cedric Hui)
Subject: China's Telecom Structure
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 07:33:18 GMT
In responding to some enquiries on China telecommunications
infrastructure, I found an excellent reference published in the
September 1993 issue of the "Electronics News for China". This is
my first attempt in Chinese to English translation. Please let me
know if I have used the wrong technical term in the translation (I
am sure the experienced will spot the error by context).
This part of the article covers the structure of the
telecommunications network of China and an overview of China's
telecommunications policy.
Cedric
---------
The critical moment as China entering the booming era of telecommuni-
cations development.
Economic reform, the opening of the market economy and the top
pripority placed in telecommunications as strategic economic policy,
provides the favorable conditions for improvement and expansion in
China's telecommunications industry, as well as foreign investment
opportunity in China.
written by Tan, Shu Cheng
Deputy Chief Engineer
Technology Intelligent Center
Ministry of Posts & Telecommunications of PRC
------------------
As the modern world is entering the Information Age, the
development of the society become more relying on the support of
information. Economic activities, like manufacturing,
distributing, trading and comsumer spending, generate enormous
information. They are manipulated, processed and transported
through the communication networks which in turn connect societies
into an unified virtual entity. Telecommunication as the society's
infrastructure and the essentail element in supporting the economic
development has received top priority in the national development
policy in China.
Since the reform and the opening of the Chinese market,
Chinese economy has achieved prominent improvemnets. The
increase of economic activities incite the growth of information
exchange. In fact, the growth rate of the telecommunications
industry has exceeded the national economic growth and is the
major factor in the high growth of the Chinese economy.
Currently, China's reform is entering another new era of
development. As new demands for telecommunications services come
to light, China's telecommunications industry is once again facing
the challenge of new demands and requiremnets. This is the
critical moment as China entering the booming era of
telecommunications development.
The Structure of the Telecommunications Network and its
Management System
China's telecommunication network consist of the national
public network and the departmental proprietary networks (Rail,
Power, Oil etc). The public Network is the backbone of the
national telecommunications network. Propeitary networks are
supplemental to the public network.
The public network is based on the long distance telephone
network and is organised into 5 levels of hierarchical network
structure. The first levels exchange centers are directly
connected to form the network in the highest hierarchy and each
lower level exchange centers connect directly to the higher level
exchange centers. Lower level connection within the same
hierarchy are mainly handled by switching with supplemented some
number of direct circuits.
Level 1 exchange centers serve between and among capital
and provinces (Wide-Area Center). They are the communication
hub for provinces(including Autonomy) within a Wide-Area. There
are also supplemental inter-provincial exchange center in some
geophically larger or economically more developed area.
Level 2 are provincial centers. Being the communication
hub for the province or autonomy, a level 2 exchange center
serves regional areas and cities within the province. Supplemetal
provincial center may be established if needed.
Level 3 center is regional exchange center serves between
and among counties. It's location is usually confined to its
services area.
The main function of the level 1 to level 3 exchange
center is to facilitate long distance telephone service within
its service area.
Level 4 is the terminating point for long distance
telephone services. Its service area includes the towns and
villeges within the same county. Level 5 is the local central
office switches.
In recent years, digital electronic systems are more
widely used in China and the expansion of the regional
economies lead to the increase of local telephone networks.
The telephone network structure will gradually be simplified
and the levels in the hierarchy be reduced.
Local telephone network as opposed to the national long
distance telephone network is confined to a regional area.
Its service area may include a certain number of central
offices and exchange centers which forms a dialing zone.
There is a long distance telephone network access point
in the local telephone network and its level is defined by
its hierarchy in the long distance telephone network. Thus,
based on the concept of local and long distance telephone
network, the long distance telephone access point is not
part of the local telephone network structure.
The local telephone network model may seems to resemble
the traditional municipal telephone system. However, the local
telephone network has a much wider service area compare to the
municipal telephone system. For instance, the Beijing municipal
telephone system includes Beijing city and the near suburban
area while the Beijing local telephone network also includes the
surround 10 counties.
With China's telecommunications development as a national
policy and the long term interest of the national
telecommunications infrastructure in mind, knowing that the
telecommunications infrastructure is relatively backward, the
management and development of the national public telephone
network will be the responsibility of the government. In order
to accelerate telecommunications development and centralized
limited resouces, the Ministry of Posts & Telecommunications
of the People's Republic of China will centralize the regulating,
development and the management of the most of the
telecommunications services for the public telephone network
with some services open to the private sector. The Ministry of
Posts & Telecommunications will seek a cooperative relations
with the proprietary networks in network development and
integration based on the priciple of mutual benefit and
acess compensation.
------------------------------
From: dannyb@panix.com (danny burstein)
Subject: Telco's Records - Do They Include CNID?
Date: 8 Jul 1994 04:13:06 -0400
As all folk who read TELECOM Digest know, the majority of United
States telco central office switches now have full detail records of
all calls made from your phone (i.e. time it was made and the number
you called), and also keeps track of calls made -to- you.
This is, of course, something which has been phased in over the past
few decades as the switches have become more and more advamced. (In
the old days, as far too many of us recall, billing was done by
mechanical counters which were photographed each month, but I
digress ...)
Which brings to mind a question about what data fields are actually
kept. Specifically, what I'd like to know (and hopefully someone out
in digest land may know the answer) is if these records, now that CNID
is phasing in nationwide, store the number calling you.
We've had a couple of high profile cases involving telecom in NYC, i.e.
the World Trade Center bombing, and telco records were one of the things
used in the investigation and prosecution. For example, they got the
records from the suspects' home telephones which showed, let's say, a
call coming in at 16:45.
Given this specific case, I'm sure the gendarmes had the people and
computer access to have every CO in the tristate area queried with a
'what calls were made between 16:44 and 16:46 and were any of tehm made
to this phone number?" type of check, but what about a more routine and
less public investigation?
(One of the results of this was that the federales tracked calls back to
a coin phone in a convenience store, which was fortuitously videotaped -
and they then got photos of teh suspects. Of course there are lots of
other things that were done which have never been disclosed, but that's
another story)
So if anyone knows if a) current CO programming keeps the CNID in one of
the fields, or b) this is an available "feature" which hasn't been
implemented or c) while not yet implemented it will be, etc., etc., could
you advise?
Thanks muchly,
Danny dannyb@panix.com (or dburstein@mcimail.com)
------------------------------
From: sea@umcc.umcc.umich.edu (Steve Arlow)
Subject: Exchanges Local to Entire LATA
Date: 7 Jul 1994 12:16:54 -0400
Organization: UMCC, Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Somehow, some providers of cellular, pager, and voice-mail services
get phone numbers in exchanges which are a *local* call from anywhere
within the LATA. And some of these companies are charging a flat rate
for their service, which seems to imply that these numbers can be had
for a flat monthly (or annual?) rate, regardless of usage.
How can one go about getting such a number? (My RBOC is Ameritech). I
suspect that this arrangement is only available to companies which are
willing to purchase an entire exchange. Does anyone know the details
of how this works? I can think of quite a number of other profitable
ways such an exchange could be used.
Steve Arlow, Yorick Software \ sea@umcc.umich.edu
39336 Polo Club Dr. #103, \ (810) 473-0920
Farmington Hills, MI 48335-5634 \ FAX select box 3
------------------------------
From: jsw@gonix.gonix.com (Jack Winslade)
Subject: Sprint to Face the Wrath Of Ernie!!
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 00:53:37 CDT
(For those of you not familiar with Omaha politics, State Senator
Ernie Chambers has represented Omaha's second district for as long as
I am aware. Ernie (he does not like to be addressed as 'Senator') has
developed a reputation as a gloves-off and very outspoken guy who is
very effective in representing his constituents. As far as I know, he
has never had a serious challenger for his office. Ernie is
originally a barber, and he holds a law degree from Creighton
University, but has never sought to be admitted to the Bar.)
State Senator Ernie Chambers invites his constituents to phone him
directly at his office in Lincoln, collect, if they ever have any need
to get in touch with him. (State offices in Lincoln are a toll call
from Omaha, and such a call will often cost more than a similar-length
call from Omaha to either coast. Such 50-mile calls are intrastate,
but inter-LATA, so they are handled by any of several carriers.) He's
had this policy for years, and receives many collect calls from
constituents, other taxpayers, and other elected officials.
Beginning June 22, for reasons that are still not clear, those trying
to phone Ernie collect using Sprint received an intercept stating that
collect calls were not permitted to that number. Users of other
carriers had no difficulty making collect calls to Chambers' office.
Ernie was made aware of this block on Wednesday, when a constituent
reported the intercept. He then asked a fellow Senator to try a
collect call from outstate, confirming the fact that Sprint was indeed
blocking those calls.
Ernie immediately contacted Sprint and demanded an explanation. He
also filed a complaint with the Public Service Commission. Sprint's
initial response (according to television station KETV) was that
Sprint had some trouble with a previous holder of Ernie's office phone
number. Ernie was enraged at the response, since Ernie has had that
number for more than ten years. He told a reporter "I will show them
(Sprint) what it is like to have their corporate throats attacked by
an enraged legislative pit-bull."
Historically, Ernie is well known for NOT letting things drop, and
carrying things through to the end when he believed he is right.
The department that oversees the state telephone system was not aware
that Sprint placed a block on the line. Chambers stated that he would
file a formal complaint with the PSC and explore the possibility of
legal action against Sprint.
Good day JSW
(Information above included material presented by the {Omaha World-Herald}
and television stations KETV and WOWT.)
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 03:27:02 PDT
From: lars@reggae.RNS.COM (Lars Poulsen)
Subject: Forwarded Mail From Russia
Date: 01 Jul 94 03:39:27 EDT
From: Ivan Bobrovnikov <75020.337@compuserve.com>
To: Lars <lars@spectrum.RNS.COM>
Subject: ISDN providers. please help
Lars,
I got your e-mail address in one of the telecom groups. Can ask you
for a favor to post an article on my behalf in comp.dcom.isdn or in
telecom digest (is Pat still around?)? I wish I could do that myself,
but do not know how to use the damn newsreader.
Thanks.
I'm trying to establish basic ISDN link between our office in Seattle,
WA and Moscow, Russia. Which companies should I go to for the service?
Is it all possible?
Please respond via e-mail: 75020.337@compuserve.com
Thanks,
Ivan Bobrovnikov
----- End Included Message -----
------------------------------
Date: 08 Jul 94 10:37:54 EDT
From: Fausto Zambrano <FZambran@Telecomm.MHS.CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Help on Research
Hello everyone!
I am helping a friend doing a research paper on the affects on
personnel productivity when the corporation decides to go multisite;
i.e. R&D is located in California and Headquarters in Michigan. How
telecommunications are affected in order to keep the sense of unity.
I have some books about this topic, but we need more input so If you
have any titles or articles that could help us, please send me an
E-Mail note.
Thanks again!!
Fausto Zambrano
Amway Telecommunications
Voice: 616-676-7039 ccMail: fzambran
E-Mail: fzambran@amwayusa.mhs.compuserve.com
------------------------------
From: cory@akix.cts.com (Cory Krell)
Subject: USA Area Code Databases w/Zip
Organization: BOI Inc.
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 1994 01:12:29 GMT
Hi, I'm looking for a database of USA areacodes and prefixes that also
includes Zip code and if needed, more address info. For example:
619-471-xxxx = 92069, San Marcos, CA
Does anyone know where I can find this?
Thanks in advance,
- Cory
(p.s. please e-mail me - my net connection is marginal.)
Cory Krell
cory@akix.cts.com - or - {nosc,ucsd,hplabs!hp-sdd}!crash!akix!cory
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The answers you want are right here with
long time Digest reader Carl Moore. I'm sure Carl will see this and be
in touch with you soon. PAT]
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 11:48:37 CDT
From: dmoe@ted.cray.com (David A. Moe)
Subject: Long Distance Telemarketers
I'm tired of being called by AT&T, MCI and Sprint asking to switch my
long distance phone service. I've (politely) asked to have my name
removed from their telemarketing list, but that doesn't seem to work.
My question is: Is there a list - similar to the "take my name off the
junkmail mailing list" - I can get my phone number added to to
avoid/stop these telemarketers (ALL telemarketers would be even
better, but I'm not greedy). Any and all responses would be
appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Dave
------------------------------
From: dalk@login.dkuug.dk (Lars Kalsen)
Subject: DECT - Datacommunications?
Date: 8 Jul 94 14:34:17 GMT
Organization: DKnet
Hi - outthere,
Can DECT systems be used for datatransmission - for example for
setting up a wireless LAN.
Plaese E-mail if you have any information.
Greetings,
Lars Kalsen dalk@login.dkuug.dk
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 01:43:14 CDT
From: clifto@indep1.chi.il.us (Clifton T. Sharp)
Subject: Strange CNID Name Text
The past couple of days, the name information that comes along with
CNID has been ending (sometimes) with " 0R", i.e. "Doe,John 0R". It's
intermittent and even calls from the same person might or might not
have it.
Does this ring a bell with anyone?
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Sure it does. Someone programming the
output at the central offices in question has one or more misplaced
or mismatched quote marks in a print statement. Maybe a semi-colon is
there instead of the correct terminator for a print statement. So when
it is sent out to your box, the text gets printed but the junk on the
end is some value; maybe the value of some string; they did not close
the quote correctly. Instead of the instruction being 'Print "name";
then do something' they screwed it up to be 'Print "name; do something".'
Well you get the idea. Is 0R possibly the value of a carriage return
or something like that in the language being used? Instead of taking
whatever action is accomplished by the opcode 0R (I assume it is an
operand to whatever comes before it or after it) its getting printed
out instead because of the way the quote was incorrectly closed. It is
intermittent because CNID comes from various servers or locations and
over various circuits, etc. Only one (hopefully) is screwed up. Get
handled by that equipment and you get the bug.
Ummm ... call 611 and tell 'em, will ya. <grin> ... If ya wanna send
information about your central office and the calling numbers, etc it
maybe some tech from the area will see it and try to help. PAT]
------------------------------
From: DeFantom@aol.com
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 94 22:09:15 EDT
Subject: AT&T Response to Sprint
Thought everyone would be interested in what AT&T had to say about the
Sprint deal.
(From AT&T Online)
AT&T COMMENTS ON SPRINT DEAL WITH FRENCH AND GERMAN CARRIERS
NEW YORK -- AT&T issued the following statement following an
announcement this morning by Sprint that it has signed a
memorandum of understanding with France Telecom and Deutsche
Telekom "to offer seamless global telecommunications services to
business, consumer and carrier markets worldwide."
"There's something very wrong when telephone companies
like the France Telecom and Deutsche Telekom monopolies can
buy into the U.S. telecom market while keeping their home
markets closed tighter than a drum.
"French and German businesses and consumers will be
denied lower prices and service innovations until there is
fair and open competition in their countries.
"We urge the United States government to condition
approval of the proposed equity investment in Sprint on the
French and German governments opening their
telecommunications markets on the same terms as the United
States market is open to France Telecom and Deutsche
Telekom."
------------------------------
From: Dawson, Mitch <DAWSONM@i7e.istc.ca>
Subject: Comparisons of U.S. and Canadian Telecommunication Costs
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 94 16:29:00 EST
Hello ... just a shot in the dark.
I am looking for any studies(or data) which compares the cost of
telecommunications in Canada and the U.S. Anything available on the NET
would be great!
Thanks for your time,
Mitch Dawson
dawsonm@i7e.istc.ca
------------------------------
From: krazykev@panix.com
Subject: Cheapest Way to Call Israel and South Africa From the USA?
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 1994 02:08:54 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Hi,
I make a lot of calls to Israel and South Africa.
Currently the only really cheap time for me to call is on the weekends
with Sprint's Most Worldwide Plan.
Normally weekends cost $.76/minute to Israel and $.75/minute to South
Africa.
Right now, until the end of 7/94 or so I can call for $.38/minute to
Israel and $.375/minute to South Africa, but only on the weekends.
I have seen rates dropping like crazy internationally and flat rate
plans seem to be popping up all over the place with calls to Europe as
low as 35 cents per minute, with six second billing and thirty seconds
minimum.
Has anyone seen low rates to Israel and South Africa for calling during
the week during our business day (9-5 EST)?
------------------------------
From: irawan@netcom.com (Hindra Irawan)
Subject: Billing Software for LD Company
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 1994 16:33:20 GMT
I am researching for my company looking for billing software, not call
accounting software for PBX. I need to find out if there publishers
out there that deals with billing software. Does anybody have a
recommendation or experience to share?
Thanks in advance,
Hindra MIS Manager
Bittel Telecommunications, inc.
------------------------------
From: login_name@hookup.net
Subject: SL-1 PBX Information Needed
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 1994 18:43:30 GMT
Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA
I am looking for tests to determine proper installation for Sl-1 PBX
specifications in areas where PBX security can be compromised and what
can be done to compensate. Lists of any publications that are
available on this topic would be appreciated.
This information is required for a PBX Audit.
------------------------------
From: bladerunner@ping (Earl Christy)
Subject: Cyber Sabre Giveaway - Enter and Win NOW!
Date: 7 Jul 1994 20:19:10 GMT
Organization: Amateur Radio Gateway WA4MEI, Chamblee, GA
There's an old saying about contests- "if you can't give away really
cool prizes don't even bother." So before starting this Internet
contest a group of Ohioans in pursuit of excellence invented the only
prize that would be totally new, extremely cyber, and absolutely
cutting edge. And now you can win it!
Introducing the Cyber Sabre -- the only cutting edge product ever
designed to be given away in cyberspace. Cyber Sabres are beautiful
limited-edition versions of the world famous Christy sliding-blade
pocket knife. Like all Christy knives, Cyber Sabres are handmade at
the 104 year-old Christy Co. in Fremont, Ohio USA.
Even with hundreds of Cyber Sabres up for grabs there's still no time
to waste. Quickly turn the page and enter now by filling in all the
fields including the number of knives [from one to one million] that
you'd like to see the Christy Company sell during 1994. Then send your
entry to: bladerunner@ping.com. Good luck and remember, Barnum Lives!
To get a picture of the Cyber Sabre, do an anonymous FTP to
ftp.netcom.com (/pub/contest). You can also find it in alt.binaries.
pictures.misc.
--- Official Cyber Sabre Contest Entry Form ---
name:
address:
city:
state:
zip code:
country:
phone:
e-mail:
# of knives:
This is a contest not a commercial. It is void where prohibited,
taxed, or otherwise restricted. The decision of the judges is final.
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TELECOM Digest Fri, 8 Jul 94 14:59:00 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 313
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
CellOne/NY Problem (Stan Schwartz)
Older Siemens PBX Numbering Plan Question (swc!bruce@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov)
Calling All Calling Card/800 Number Resellers (Seng-Poh Lee)
Wanted: VoiceMail for Meridian System (Stephen Sayer)
Digital Spread-Spectrum Cordless Phone -- Experience? (Marion Hakanson)
Panasonic KX T2346 Phones (Larry Broat)
AT&T New 1-500 Service (AT&T True Connections) (dquist@ben3b01.attmail.com)
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From: stans@panix.com (Stan Schwartz)
Subject: CellOne/NY Problem
Date: 7 Jul 1994 20:26:53 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Last month, I posted about a problem I had while roaming in Montreal.
I am a Cell One NY/NJ customer, and I couldn't make any calls in
Montreal, although I was able to receive calls there through NACN
delivery. The CellOne rep's answer at the time was that I was roaming
on the wrong carrier. While it seemed impossible, I didn't pursue it.
*** UNTIL THE BILL CAME, THAT IS ***
I was charged almost $12.00 for calls I attempted to make in Montreal,
and the only preson I ended up talking to was a CanTel rep. At the
time, he said that there was an indicator on my account that he'd
never seen before that was not allowing me to make calls.
When I called for credit for the incomplete calls, a more-knowledgeable
CellOne rep figured out the problem. The stupid "Fraud Prevention"
feature indicator, which is not supposed to be passed to other
systems, was passed to CanTel and they didn't know how to handle it.
Cell One's solution is that if you know you're going to be roaming and
you have the feature, call and have them verify that it's not a city
that they're having a problem with or they'll have to temporarily
de-activate the fraud prevention service for the duration of your
trip.
Stan
------------------------------
From: swc!bruce@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov
Subject: Older Siemens PBX Numbering Plan Question
Date: 8 Jul 94 12:00:19 GMT
Organization: Standard Wire & Cable, Inc.
We have a Siemens SD-192MX PBX which has been working fine for years.
The software diskette is labeled:
SIEMENS 192MX
S30809-B1298-
D500-*-B900
GS1
We are concerned about the change to the new North American Numbering
Plan next year. The software will not allow us to add the new style
area codes to the LCR database, giving the following error:
CONFIGURATION MAIN LCR
D500-GS1 ENTER C OR M: C
WAIT - DISK OPERATION
ENTER KEY
WAIT - DISK OPERATION
HARD COPY REQUIRED? YES-1,NO-0 1
2 07/05/94 13:42:31
424
WAIT - DISK OPERATION
ENTER NEW AREA CODE: 324
ENTER PRIMARY ROUTE LIST FOR AREA CODE = 001
ERR-FLD 1 ANY KEY
I assume that Siemens will not itself be upgrading the software for
this system. Does anybody know if there is anybody out there who may
be producing an upgrade to offer the new necessary features?
Our repair vendor cannot seem to find any. Their solution was either
to disable all LCR features and restrictions, thereby allowing any
number to be dialed, or selling us a new system.
If the software is not available, any suggestions for a system with
similar capabilities but with the ability to handle the new numbering
plan?
System has 27 trunks, 64 stations, DID, LCR, 1 attendant console,
speed dialing, night answer plus other standard features.
We hate to have to buy a new systems since this one has been so
reliable, but we have some fairly large customers in some of the new
area codes.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions you might have.
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: How many outgoing trunk lines do you have
on the switchboard? A temporary fix which will hold things together for
the time being has been suggested to me recently. Unless the number of
ougoing trunks is so outrageously large as to make it financially out
of the question, get a bunch of toll restrictors -- one for each line
and maybe a couple of spares -- from a place like Radio Shack or similar
company. Put these on the line *before* the switchboard, at the place
where the telco lines first come into your premises. Program them one
by one to challenge/deny outgoing calls not of your liking such as 900
and 976, etc. Then disable all toll restrictions on the PBX itself,
letting the PBX pass everything it gets. That will of course enable the
new area codes while allowing the peripheral devices to stomp on and
kill whatever displeases them <g> ... when the PBX seizes a trunk for
an outgoing call the toll restrictor on that line is gonna see it and
deal with it. Beware of some possibly flaky interaction between the
two; especially at first in getting the wiring correct. This will prevent
you from being totally unprotected while still allowing calls to the
new codes. Where you draw the line of course is the cost of the devices
times the number of lines to be protected versus the cost of software
replacement (you should be so lucky) or god forbid, having to pull the
board and replace it entirely ... you'll want to get an overview of
fraud as it occurs through your PBX as well; how much protection do you
need now that you are gonna have to *pay someone dearly* to cure it
for you? <bg> (that's the same as <g> but with the word 'bitter' in
front of it) ... only you know your traffic and your exchange, but
throwing together some externals to make life more difficult for the
abusers can't hurt. PAT]
------------------------------
From: Seng-Poh Lee <splee@noel.pd.org>
Subject: Calling All Calling Card/800 Number Resellers
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 22:40:57 EDT
Ok, I'm soliciting information on as many calling card and 800 numbers
service as possible. If you are a reseller or service provider and
meet the criteria below, please send me information on your service;
Criteria:
1) Per minute rate less than 20 cents a minute.
2) Setup charge less than $20
3) No minimum usage, or month charge.
Thanks!
Seng-Poh Lee <splee@pd.org>
finger splee@noel.pd.org for PGP public key
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Jeeze, these collectors of information
on resellers, et al along with their distant cousins the folks who
need help with research papers are becoming as common around here as
the age/gender checks on Compuserve CB. If I get one person a day writing
to ask for help collecting information on resellers, etc. I must get
a dozen. I wonder if any of them read through the archives, or otherwise
check back issues, etc. PAT]
------------------------------
From: ssayer@garnet.msen.com (Stephen Sayer)
Subject: Wanted: VoiceMail for Meridian System
Date: 8 Jul 1994 04:10:07 GMT
Organization: Hijinx
Meridian phone system. We have line and station expansion units and
are using three digit DNs, which evidently eliminates one of the only
systems that would have otherwise been acceptable.
Please respond or request summary via email (either address in
SIG below).
Later,
<SS> { ssayer@mail.msen.com | ssayer@umcc.umich.edu }
------------------------------
Subject: Digital Spread-Spectrum Cordless Phone - Experience?
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 1994 18:08:17 -0700
From: Marion Hakanson <hakanson@bogart.cse.ogi.edu>
Folks,
I've recently seen an advertisement for the Escort model 9020 (and
companion 9010 with internal handset antenna) cordless telephone,
which uses digital spread-spectrum technology to do its magic. It
also claims to provide encryption between handset and base.
If I understand correctly the meaning of "digital spread-spectrum" and
"encryption", this phone should provide exceptionally noise-free and
private operation, and may entice me into overcoming my hesitance
regarding the privacy issues involved in taking advantage of the
convenience afforded by using cordless telephones. A colleague is
also interested in it for use in a EM-noisy machine room environment.
Since the price is rather steep for a personal experiment, by my
reckoning ($299 for the 9020, and $279 for the 9010, if memory serves
correctly), I'm hoping someone out there has some experience which
they can relate, regarding either this particular phone, or with one
using similar technology. A product review by someone knowledgeable
in the field (or pointer to same) would be especially appreciated, and
comments regarding range, noise, convenience, etc. are welcome.
If folks prefer to reply directly to myself, I will be happy to
collect and summarize here any responses I may receive. Thanks.
Marion Hakanson <hakanson@cse.ogi.edu>
Information Highway Maintenance -- OGI CS&E Division
------------------------------
From: larry broat <larryb@ic.net>
Subject: Panasonic KX T2346 Phones
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 8:12:07 PDT
Organization: ICNet The Innovative Concepts Network Your Link to the Internet
Does anyone know where I can buy Panasonic KX T2346 phones? My
present distributor says that the phones have been discontinued and
are no longer available. The Panasonic phones with their message
waiting indicators work very well with our Tadiran switch. I also am
looking for a good distributor that will sell to end users.
Thanks.
------------------------------
From: dquist@ben3b01.attmail.com (dquist)
Date: 7 Jul 94 23:07:47 GMT
Subject: AT&T NEW 1-500 SERVICE (AT&T True Connections)
ADVISORY: New Consumer 500 Service Introduced
ANNOUNCEMENT:
AT&T today announced a new service that will give consumers personal
long-distance numbers in the new "500 area code" beginning July 12.
Called AT&T True Connections(sm), the worldwide 500-number service
will give customers flexible, advanced, personal numbers that travel
with them. Because callers to AT&T 500 numbers will dial the same
number for one person every time, they won't need to know the location
of the person. But AT&T True Connections customers will be able to
decide when and if they want to be reached.
BACKGROUND:
AT&T True Connections customers will have access to a family of useful
services currently unavailable from any long-distance company. These
services range from call forwarding to call sequencing, which allows
the owner to program his or her 500 number to ring in several
locations in sequence.
For instance, a person could have calls made to his or her AT&T 500
number routed first to the office, then to a cellular phone, then to
home or even to a hotel. The person could change the sequence as often
as desired.
AT&T True Connections customers also will be able to place calls and
have their unanswered incoming calls go to voice mailboxes in the AT&T
Worldwide Intelligent Network.
This new service builds on AT&T EasyReach(R) 700 Service, which allows
customers to forward their calls to almost any location in the world.
AT&T True Connections will have the added benefits of call sequencing,
voice mail, customized feature selection and more.
The service will be available in the fall, pending tariff filing and
regulatory approval, and dialing availability of 500 numbers from
local telephone company networks.
With 500 service, customers will have more flexibility in managing
their personal communications. For example, with 500 numbers,
consumers will be able to have their calls follow them to more than
one location: subscribers will be able to program their numbers to
ring twice at home, twice at the office, twice in the car--and finally
go to their voice mailbox.
A 500 number gives customers the ability to be reached virtually
anywhere they are -- and they can choose to pay for those calls.
Customers will be able to keep the same 500 number if their local
telephone number changes.
Prices for the various personal number services will vary. In
general, there will be a low monthly fee, and the normal long-
distance rates associated with calls made to the number to which the
calls are forwarded.
... Will I be able to forward my 500 number to international
locations?
Yes. Calls may be forwarded to any country where AT&T provides AT&T
USA Direct Service.
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, this all sounds very nice, but
what about the existing Easy Reach 700 service? Wouldn't it have made
enhancements to that service instead? Such things as making it non-
network specific (so that 1+700 would work from any network without the
annoying 10288 that must be prepended each time); such things as adding
the sequence hunting and international calling ... why is AT&T coming
up with this whole new service instead of installing some badly needed
fixes in the existing Easy Reach? PAT]
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 7:27:44 EDT
From: Greg Monti <GMONTI@npr.org>
Subject: Virginia's New Area code: 540
It's apparently official. In a story on page A1 of the July 7, 1994,
{Washington Post}, the tale is told of Virginia's 703 area being
split. The new code will be 540. The dividing line will be very
close to Washington DC. Judging by the map published in the {Post},
the portion of Virginia which lies within the Washington LATA (Local
Access and Transport Area) will remain 703. This will include
Arlington, Fairfax and Prince William Counties, an eastern slice of
Loudoun County, a northern slice of Stafford County and a tiny slice
of Fauquier County -- plus Alexandria, Falls Church, Fairfax, Manassas
and Manassas Park cities. This area is served partly by Bell Atlantic
Virginia and partly by GTE Virginia.
The entire remainder of what is now 703, about 40 cities and counties,
will become 540. This area is served by numerous phone companies
including Bell Atlantic, GTE and Sprint (Centel).
The story spends quite a bit of copy explaining how this is among the
first area codes not to use a zero or a one as the second digit. The
writer even interviewed Ron Conners of Bellcore's numbering plan
administration who noted that Bellcore employees are hitting the hotel
seminar circuit to explain the new area code system to telephone
technicans who may need to modify hundreds of thousands of central
office and privately owned switches. The {Post} reporter notes that
Alabama's new area code, 334, duplicates the prefix within the 202
area that is used by the {Post}. If someone in DC forgets to dial the
1 in the string 1-334-555-1212 to reach southern Alabama directory
assitance, they will be connected to Post production employee Gary H.
Lucke, whose number is presumably 202 334-5551.
The split takes effect July 15, 1995. The end date of permissive
dialing was not noted.
Greg Monti, Tech Mgr, FISPO, Distribution Division
National Public Radio Phone: 202 414-3343
635 Massachusetts Av NW Fax: 202 414-3036
Washington, DC 20001-3753 Internet: gmonti@npr.org
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Date: Thu, 07 Jul 1994 12:34:15 MDT
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "TCP/IP Illlustrated" by Stevens
BKTCPIPI.RVW 940325
Addison-Wesley Publishing Company
P.O. Box 520 26 Prince Andrew Place
Don Mills, Ontario M3C 2T8
416-447-5101 fax: 416-443-0948
Heather Rignanesi, Marketing, x340, 73171.657@Compuserve.com
or
Tiffany Moore, Publicity tiffanym@aw.com
Bob Donegon bobd@aw.com
John Wait, Editor, Corporate and Professional Publishing johnw@aw.com
Tom Stone, Editor, Higher Education Division tomsto@aw.com
Philip Sutherland, Schulman Series 74640.2405@compuserve.com
Keith Wollman, Trade Computer Group keithw@aw.com
Lisa Roth Blackman, Trade Computer Group lisaro@aw.com
1 Jacob Way
Reading, MA 01867-9984
800-822-6339 617-944-3700
Fax: (617) 944-7273
5851 Guion Road
Indianapolis, IN 46254
800-447-2226
"TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 1", Stevens, 1994, 0-201-63346-9, U$47.50
rstevens@noao.edu
A clear, readable, well-organized, thorough, and detailed explanation
of the Internet Protocol Suite. The author has carefully constructed
his chapters on the layered model of the protocol, itself. Starting
with the data link layer, each chapter adds to what has gone before,
and relies solely on what has gone before.
For system managers, this gives a practical account of the operations
of the network and major applications. The "illustrated" part of the
title seems to refer to the fact that examples are given from a real
network. The network is given in the book, and is complex enough that
the network traffic analyzed can be indicative of real world
situations rather than idealized theory.
For instructors considering course texts, a very strong plus in the book are
the chapter exercises. The answers are not simply a check on whether the
student has read the text. They are well thought out questions which will need
a thorough understanding of the concepts--plus a bit of work.
For anyone looking for the details of the TCP/IP protocols, an excellent
choice.
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1994 BKTCPIPI.RVW 940325
Vancouver ROBERTS@decus.ca
Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca
Research into rslade@cue.bc.ca
User p1@CyberStore.ca
Security Canada V7K 2G6
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Date: Fri, 08 Jul 1994 12:47:10 EDT
From: fraser@ccl2.eng.ohio-state.edu
Subject: March 95 Conference in Nashville
Forwarded from BEZALEL GAVISH <GAVISHB@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu>:
C A L L for P A P E R S
3rd International Conference on Telecommunication Systems
Modelling and Analysis
March 16-19, 1995 Nashville, TN
The 3rd International Conference on Telecommunication Systems
Modelling and Analysis will be held in Nashville, Tennessee on March
16-19, 1995. With a few changes, the same basic format as the 1994
conference will be used. The general idea is to build on the success
of earlier conferences by limiting the number of participants,
concentrate on a few topics, present new problems and problem areas,
encouraging informal interaction and exchanges of ideas. The
objective is to advance the state of the modelling and analysis in
telecommunications by stimulating research activity on new and
important problems.
The conference will be divided into segments with each segment devoted
to a specific topic. This will allow for little conflict between
segments. All papers will be screened rigorously to ensure the
quality of presentations. The number of participants will be limited
in order to encourage interaction during and after the formal
presentations. In response to suggestions made by last year's
participants, social and cultural activities will be included in the
1995 agenda.
The Program Committee includes: Anant Balakrishnan - MIT, Jerome
Chifflet - CNET, Suk-Gwon Chang - Hanyang U., Imrich Chlamtac -
University of Massachusetts at Amherst, John Daigle - MITRE, Robert
Doverspike - Bellcore, Bezalel Gavish - Vanderbilt University
(Chairman), Andre Girard - INRS-Telecom, Richard Harris - Royal
Melborn Institute of Technology, Konosuke Kawashima - NTT, Raj Jain -
DEC, Jeff Mackie-Mason - U. of Michigan, Benjamin Melamed - NEC, USA,
Michelle Minoux - U. of Paris, June Park - U. of Iowa, Miguel A. Perez
- Katolique U. of Chile, Scott Rogers - Toronto U., William W. Sharkey
- Bellcore, David Simchi-Levi - Columbia University, Edward A. Sykes -
University of Virginia, Yutaka Takahashi - Kyoto University, Nicos Van
Dijk - U. of Amsterdam.
Listed below are some of the potential segments:
-- Topological Design and Network Configuration Problems
-- Design and Analysis of Local Access Networks and Outside Plant Problems
-- Low Earth Orbit Satellite communication systems
-- Time Dependent Expansion of Telecommunication Systems
-- Designing Networks for Reliability and Availability
-- Network Design Problems in Gigabit and Terabit Networks
-- LAN, WAN Global Network Interconnection
-- Quantitative Methods in Network Management
-- Pricing and Economic Analysis of Telecommunications
-- Impact of Telecommunications on Industrial Organization
-- Performance Evaluation of Telecommunication Systems
-- Distributed Computing and Distributed Data Bases
-- Cellular Systems and PCS Modelling and Configuration
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limit the number of parallel sessions to two. The conference is
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From: syshtg@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Tom Gillman)
Subject: Re: Cyber Sabre Giveaway - Enter and Win NOW!
Date: 8 Jul 1994 15:29:16 -0400
Organization: Georgia State University
Isn't this the same guy that lost his account over at netcom.com for
posting this exact same article to half the newsgroups on the planet?
l8r!
Tom Gillman, Unix/AIX Systems Weenie
Wells Computer Center-Ga. State Univ.
(404) 651-4503 syshtg@gsusgi2.gsu.edu
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I'm not sure if he is or not. I did
not follow that earlier episode. But you know, your name seems familiar
to me: aren't you the dude who writes all the time to various newsgroups
complaining about 'blatant commercial crap'? I was going to say something
about the contest when I published the earlier message today but then
I figured, hey iof they are going to give away a free knife to the winner(s)
of the contest then that's fine with me. Anyway, haven't you heard?
The Acceptable Use regulations are all but gone. Hardly anyone bothers
with them any longer, even in spirit if not in practice. PAT]
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China Telephone Service (Cedric Hui)
Virginia to Get Area Code 540 (Paul Robinson)
Internet Underground Music Archive (Robert L. McMillin)
Intelligent Buildings (Pablo del Amor Saavedra)
Call Accounting vs Service Bureau (Ann Genovese)
Televirtuality -- Looking For Labs Working in This Area (Robert Jacobson)
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From: chui@netcom.com (Cedric Hui)
Subject: China Telephone Service
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 03:07:22 GMT
This second part of the series covers the development of basic
telephone services in China for the last 8 years. (note that the
article was published in 1993). Some of the recent development might
sound like a late comer in telecommunications services, but yet, it is
never too late. Looking closely on various expansion basic telephone
services in China, international services represents the most
important and impressive development. It is understandable that
international trade is vital to the national economic growth, thus,
receives a higher priority than the resential needs. Moreover, it
probably will take some time before China could provide universal
access to telephone services to every citizen in every corner of the
nation.
Cedric
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The critical moment as China entering the booming era of
telecommunications development.
Economic reform, the opening of the market economy and the top
pripority placed in telecommunications as strategic economic policy,
provides the favorable conditions for improvement and expansion in
China's telecommunications industry, as well as foreign investment
opportunity in China.
written by Tan, Shu Cheng
Deputy Chief Engineer
Technology Intelligent Center
Ministry of Posts & Telecommunications of PRC
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The 8 years of accelerated expansion.
Since 1985, following the successful completion of the 7th
national economic development plan, telecommunications development
surpassed the target goals of the "7-5" plan and reached the first
stage of strategic plan of the tele- communications development.
For the last 8 years, China's telecommunications has expanded
at unprecedented rate. In integrated communications capacity, service
volume, or dollar sales volume, the annual growth rate has exceeded
20%. Especially in 1992, with the expansion of the market economy,
telecommunications has achieved the highest growth rate in China's
history. The national income improved by 12% and the number of
telephone has increased by 32%(1.9 million in 1992). From urban cities
to rural area, from the coastal market economy in the East and the
South, to the western inland China, telecommunications was undergoing
revolutary changes.
The explosive growth in telephone services
Telephone is the most basic telecommunications service. In
the past 8 years, the primary goal of China's tele- communications
policy was to satisfy the demand for telephone services. As of 1992,
there were 1.9 million installed tele- phone, a 64 times increased
compared to 1950. The average annual growth rate was 10.4% with an
impressive growth rate of 32% from 1991-1992. Obviously, the expansion
of telephone services was accelerated and China is now among the
nations with the highest public telephone network capacity. (see table
1)
Table 1: The first 10 nations in number of telephone trunks
Country # of trunks
US 127,178,122
Japan 52,453,493
Germany 32,000,000
France 28,000,000
Gr. Britain 25,000,000
Italy 22,350,000
S. Korea 13,513,523
Canada 13,206,233
Brazil 9,081,649
China 6,850,303
Source: Yearbook of Common Carrier Telecommunications
Statistics(1981-1991)
In 1992, there was 1.63 telephone per a hundred persons in
China. Up by 3.8 times from 1980 with 11.7% annual growth rate.
Compared to 1991, 1992 has seen a 26.3% increase. In the contrary, the
world's average annual growth in telephone service was 4-5%. Thus, it
is unusual for a nation with 1.2 billion population in maintaining a
continuous high rate of growth.
In 1992, long distance telephone calls via the public switch
telephone network increased from 25% in 1985 to 86.4% of the total
telephone services (1991 was 76%). International direct dial has
reached 876 cities (571 in 1991). National direct dial service is
available to 1,476 cities, an increase of 330 cities from 1991).
With the advent of the network digitization, the capacity and
capability of the public telephone network has greatly improved.
Valued-added services like conference-call, call forwarding, call
waiting, card pay phone are now avaliable. China has also established
64kbps satellite international link with US, Japan and Hong Kong in
order to meet the high bandwidth application requirement used by the
international organisations and foreign corporations in Beijing.
To remedy the lack of public pay phone, the Ministry has
expedited the installation of public pay phone. At the end of 1992,
public phones are available in transit terminals, piers, airports,
long distance bus terminals, hospitals, shopping malls and tourists
area in major urban areas. There are one public phone in every 200
meters along the main road in those areas.
Card phone is recently introduced into China. Guangdong
province is the pioneer in using card phones. They are now available
in more than 30 cities. For instance, in the province of Kiangsu,
universial card phone are installed in 9 major cities.
Development of other telecommunications services
In the past 8 years, besides the traditional telephone
services, other telecommunications services are also benefited by
utilizing advanced communication technologies. Various new services
like data communication, facimile, mobile communication, video phone,
electronic mail and other information services are also introduced
into China.
Medium to low speed data communication and divisional exchage
network are established nation wide. Transmission services under
300bps are handled by telegram network; 2400bps data transmission
service is provided by the PSTN. Currently, Shanghai, Beijing
,Guangchow and other major cities have established a divisional data
exchange network. The national In 1993, the backbone of the national
divisional data exchage network will be completed and the service will
be available to all provincial capitals, major cities, and perphaps to
some counties.
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Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 07:17:31 EDT
From: Paul Robinson <PAUL@TDR.COM>
Reply-To: Paul Robinson <PAUL@TDR.COM>
Subject: Virginia to Get Area Code 540
Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA
This article summarizes two articles, one from the {Washington Post} and
one from the {Washington Times}.
Summary, "Reach out and Touch...540?"
Front Page, {Washington Post}, July 7
Mike Mills front page article in Thursday's {Washington Post}
explaining that because of exhaustion of prefixes, the 703 area code
will be split into a new 540 area code, effective July 15, 1995, was
the first major-media article to be surprisingly comprehensive on the
entire story of the new area code, new format and why it is happening.
The article mentions about the new area code system - how 0 or 1
originally meant an area code - and that Alabama, Arizona, Illinois
and Washington state will also be getting new-style area codes. It
mentions how all software in telephone switches will have to be
modified to handle the new area code format, and mentions that Great
Britain had it worse because next year they have to add another digit
to their telephone system to handle the overflow.
It also mentions stop-gaps phone companies would use to delay issuing
an area code, such as the use of area-code style telephone prefixes
that have 0 or 1 in them. The District first started this in 1987
when the Library of Congress was issued numbers beginning with
202-707. The use of this feature in Virginia has allowed Bell
Atlantic to postpone adding an area code until next year.
It also discusses the issue of using "1" before a 7-digit short-haul
long distance number in the same area code, and that feature will no
longer be possible once the new area codes come into effect. DC does
not have toll calls within the 202 area code, and Virginia and
Maryland have already set up this feature of requiring 1 plus area
code on all toll calls.
The article has a personal slant to it: the phone numbers for the
Washington Post in area code 202 all start with 334, the same number
as the new area code in Alabama. If you want directory assistance
there, you have to dial 1-334-555-1212, but if you were in the
District and forget to dial 1 first, 334-5551 will ring through to the
desk "of Gary Locke, a nice guy who works in the Post's Production
Department."
It mentions Bellcore originally expected (in the 1940s, when the area
code system was created) to run out of area codes by 2000, and was off
by only five years.
--------------
Summary, "Region's on-the-go-phone fetish gives Virginia its third
area code", {Washington Times}, July 7, Page B7.
Doug Abrams' article has a more personal slant to it, explaining that
essentially every exchange in the 703 area outside of Arlington,
Fairfax and Prince William Counties in Virginia will be assigned to
area code 540.
This article also mentions that even with this split, the "new" area
code 703 will have to be split again in about 13 years. Area code 804
(the current area code in Southern Virginia) will need to be split
about 2002.
It mentions that the 803 area code was created in 1973 with Richmond
and the Tidewater areas being included and the rest of the state staying
in 703.
It also contains a list of prefixes being moved into the new 540 area code.
------------------------------
From: rlm@helen.surfcty.com (Robert L. McMillin)
Subject: Internet Underground Music Archive
Organization: Surf City Software/TBFW Project
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 07:02:16 GMT
(Author's Note: the following is an edited version of an article
recently appearing on the la-radio mailing list. I forwarded this,
sparked by the "101 best things you can do with an NII" post.)
In yet another random act of net.cluelessness by the mass media,
{Newsweek} ran a story on a band called the Whistle Pigs in their June
27, 1994 issue. Unless you know about the Internet Underground Music
Archive, you probably haven't heard about these guys. Of course,
{Newsweek} didn't give out the following helpful info that came to me
from Frederick Smythe, Esq., who responded to my query on
rec.music.misc:
> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 17:28:30 PDT
> From: jonl@hal.com (frederick smythe, esquire)
> To: rlm@helen.surfcty.com
> Subject: Whistle Pigs
> the whistle pigs are a local band out of santa cruz, and one of
> the first set of bands uploaded to IUMA (the internet underground music
> archive). you can access it through the following methods:
> ftp: ftp.iuma.com
> gopher: www.iuma.com
> web: http://www.iuma.com/index.html
> if you want to jump directly to the Whistle Pigs' info, you can get to it:
> ftp: ftp.iuma.com:/music/The_Whistle_Pigs/
> gopher: www.iuma.com -> music -> The_Whistle_Pigs
> web: http://www.iuma.com/band_html/The_Whistle_Pigs.html
The Pigs have done so well for themselves on the rotating magnetic
storage at iuma.com, rather than the spinning CDs at a radio station,
that an unnamed independent label signed them.
Stories like this one make record execs nervous. According to
{Newsweek}, Sony Music CEO Michael Schulhof posed the question in
March, "Is retail dead?". {Newsweek}: "He said no, but it took five
minutes to explain why." It should also make anyone owning a
broadcast license jittery.
Elsewhere on the Net:
In related (old) news, ex-MTV VJ Adam Curry's old site, mtv.com, has
moved to metaverse.com. (You can write Adam, or his right hand, Ken,
at adam@metaverse.com or ken@metaverse.com, but don't expect a reply
any time soon.) Apparently Viacom/MTV Networks didn't like the idea
of Curry using the mtv.com domain, and are suing him to get it back.
I checked into mtv.com yesterday; aside from a URL pointer to the new
site, it's an empty shell. Curry these days is busying himself with
his company On Ramp, which tries to help record labels get on the Net
"without getting ripped off".
To join la-radio: send a single-line e-mail message to
la-radio-request@helen.surfcty.com, containing the word "subscribe".
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Contact chris@surfcty.com for sales info.
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From: plas@sait01.plc.um.es (Pablo del Amor Saavedra)
Subject: Intelligent Buildings
Organization: Universidad de Murcia
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 09:43:59 GMT
A project on the integration of structured networks and the
distribution of technical services.
Background:
In recent years, we have seen the birth and development of a
new concept which is revolutionising the construction and
telecommunication sectors. This is known as Intelligent Buildings. In
this field, technical communication of the different data which is
involved in the control process of these so called buildings has
progressed in different ways. Today it has resulted firstly in a
communication network for the technical services and secondly it is
responsible for voice transmission, data and images under a structured
cable system.
Object of the project:
The project attemps to unite, under the same format, the two
communication philosophies that have been developed so far to give the
solution a universality and compatibility aspect that has been
inexistant so far. In order to do this market research will inicially
be carried out in two ways. Firstly, the aim is to obtain the
specialized opinions and suggestions of the key companies in this
field. Secondly, it is hope to compile all the existing preferences in
the present market which has been asked for by the buying companies of
the product, focusing on both the impact and the welcome that the
product would receive.
Message:
In this market research, we would be grateful for any opinion,
suggestion or information that you could contribuite to this project
based on its aims and which would be useful to obtain the best
solution.
Please send any suggestion to plas@plc.um.es, Thanks.
Direction:
D. Nicolas Hernandez Robles.
CEEIC. Aulas de Formacion.
Polgono Industrial Cabezo Beaza.
C/ Berln, Parcela 3-F.
30395 Cartagena ( Murcia ). SPAIN. Telf. : ( 968 ) 52 77 56
FAX: ( 968 ) 50 08 39
EMAIL: plas@plc.um.es
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From: AGENOVES@wpsco.gmu.edu (ANN GENOVESE )
Subject: Call Accounting vs Service Bureau
Date: Mon, Jul 11 08:44:58 1994
Hello to all:
I am working on a comparison of call accounting systems and telecom
service bureaus and would like your input on the "pros" and "cons" of
each. We are a medium sized University with a resident student
population of about 2,000 and a faculty/staff population of about
3,000. We are interested in student re-sale of telephone service and
want the flexibility to adjust rates charged to students "on demand".
Faculty/staff telephone charges are billed back on a department
(budget code) basis. We presently have Centrex service.
I am most interested in those that have call accounting and/or service
bureaus sharing with me what they like least and best about their
systems/services. You can respond to me directly through EMail at
AGENOVES@GMU.EDU
Thanks!
------------------------------
From: cyberoid@u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson)
Subject: Televirtuality - Looking For Labs Working in This Area
Date: 11 Jul 1994 09:22:16 GMT
Organization: WORLDESIGN, Seattle
Televirtuality is the use of telecommunications networks to link
virtual worlds generators, creating shared virtual worlds "in" the
net. I am looking for labs in the U.S. and elsewhere working in this
area for possible inclusion on a major conference panel.
Thanks.
Bob Jacobson
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From: stevef@wrq.com (Steve Forrette)
Subject: Re: NYNEX Says No Ringmate With Call Answering
Date: 11 Jul 1994 00:47:58 GMT
Organization: Walker Richer & Quinn, Inc.
Reply-To: stevef@wrq.com (Steve Forrette)
In <telecom14.309.8@eecs.nwu.edu>, jwm@student.umass.edu (Jeffrey W.
McKeough) writes:
> I was told by two individuals [at NYNEX] that Ringmate is incompatible
> with Call Answering on the 5ESS.
> I am assuming that the interaction is between Ringmate and the
> Busy/Don't Answer forward that is installed along with Call Answering.
> My aunt at SNET said that this feature combination works fine on the
> 5ESS switches that she oversees. She speculates that it could be a
> tariff issue, i.e. NYNEX never got approval to offer B/DA forwarding
> in combination with Ringmate.
I had a similar problem with Pacific Bell a few years back. In my
case, I wanted to have busy/no-answer transfer and call waiting on the
same line. They told me "can't be done." They said that the switch
could not do it. At the time, I was served by a 1AESS, and I had just
had service terminated in US West territory on a 1A that had exactly
that combination of services. So, I persisted with the knowledge that
the switch can do it just fine.
As is often the case, it came down to a tariff issue. Once I got to
the right person, I was quoted chapter and verse from the tariff.
There was a clause which specifically stated that "busy/no-answer
transfer cannot be used on any line that has call waiting." As is
unfortunately the case with many of these issues, the reason for the
tariff restriction is not stated in the tariff. Someone must have had
a reason for putting in a specific clause that forbids this combination,
but nobody seems to know why. Since my only solution to the problem
was to get another line, perhaps the motivation was to make sure that
heavy users who need a lot of features get mutiple lines (at a higher
cost of course).
I know a couple of long-time Bell engineers, and explained the situation
to them. They told me that this is not an unusual case. What happens
is that there is some good reason (such as many switches at the time
the tariff was written not supporting this combination) that the
restriction was put in. Since that time, the switches have advanced
to the point where it is no longer a problem, but nobody at Bell
notices this and so no proactive action to update the tariff is taken.
What usually causes a change is some big customer needing the service
and who has the clout to get in touch with a person with the power to
initiate a tariff change.
With my specific situation, I'm sure that the busy/no-answer tranfser
and call waiting restriction has been removed now that Pacific Bell
has their Message Center voicemail. After all, they would lose a lot
of business if they told customers that they had to cancel call
waiting in order to get telco voice mail. This is an excellent
example of how the telco's unregulated service division competes
unfairly with non-telco companies. Any outside vendor wishing to
provide voice mail had a hard time in doing so because none of their
customers could have call waiting because of the tariff specific
tariff provision. However, now that the telco wants to sell voice
mail, all of a sudden the tariff gets updated. Sure, "everybody" has
to abide by the same tariff, but it is quite possible for the telco to
engineer the tariff in order to prevent any competitor from getting a
head start in the market before the telco is good and ready to offer
their "unregulated" product.
Steve Forrette, stevef@wrq.com
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Sure they can modify the tariff when the
need arises, but some telcos have a tariff filed which allows for various
and sundry things not covered in other tariffs. Case in point: Back about
1973-75 when I was operating my telephone recorded message service I had
a huge number of lines all wired in a rotary hunt group with answering
machines rented from Illinois Bell on each line. I had a bunch of things
done on the lines such as having the machines all slaved to each other so
I could make my daily recording on just the first machine and the others
would all capture it. I had a provision to 'busy-out' all the lines during
the five minutes or so daily required to install the new three minute
message each day. Curious, but not wanting to press my luck I inquired of
the service rep handling my account what tariff(s) allowed for the chaining
together of the machines in the way they did it -- they said I was the
first customer in their history who had a configuration exactly the way
I had it set up with so many lines -- and the next day a man called me
back to say that IBT had Tariff <mumble> on file which was intended to
cover any circumstances not included in other tariffs ... sort of a 'just
in case we accidentally forgot to include something else,' tariff. NYNEX
may have the same thing, so that if something technically violates one
tariff they can handle it through a catch-all tariff elsewhere. PAT]
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From: waddell@iglou.iglou.com (Steve Waddell)
Subject: Re: NYNEX Says No Ringmate With Call Answering
Organization: The Internet Gateway of Louisville, KY
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 15:43:44 GMT
If that is the question ...
According to BellSouth technical documents, it is available, but only
the main number will be carried on the forwarded call, so only the
main number's Voice Mailbox can answer no matter which of the
RingMaster numbers were dialed/forwarded.
On other switches (1A) only main number is forwarded, or all numbers
are forwarded with appropriate numbers carried (DMS).
It may be that AmericaTech's "Methods and Procedures" do not address
the situation, and for the tech it is then "technically" impossible,
since he has never been told that he can do it. Creativity is not
allowed.
Steve :^> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
waddell@iglou.com 10307 St. Rene Rd. voice 502-266-5695
Louisville, KY 40299-4040
"It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for" Will Rogers
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Hey, Will Rogers was a third cousin of mine,
via the Rogers family which married the Martins and produced my grandmother
Susie Martin about 1890. Will Rogers was her cousin removed, I think.
Any quotes of his in .signature files are good enough to leave intact here
in the Digest. PAT]
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From: davep@u.washington.edu (Dave Ptasnik)
Subject: Re: NYNEX Says No Ringmate With Call Answering
Date: 11 Jul 1994 15:54:14 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
jwm@student.umass.edu (Jeffrey W. McKeough) writes:
> While I had intended to read replies to the post I sent in regarding
> Ringmate before ordering, I decided yesterday to call NYNEX to verify
> that the service is indeed available in my area. I was told by two
> individuals that Ringmate is incompatible with Call Answering on the
> 5ESS. I remember reading in the archives that at least one person
> (was it you, PAT?) in fact had both features and was served by a 5E.
The University of Washington has Centrex/Centron from a 5ESS, with an
Octel Voice Mail. Custom ringing (ringmate) does work well with this
configuration. When the caller reaches the Octel, the Octel answers
with the voice mail box for the number dialed. In other words, one
line, three phone numbers, three voice mail boxes. Everyone gets
their own messages, and only their own messages.
Dave Ptasnik davep@u.washington.edu
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Might have been me when I used to live
in Chicago. One thing to say about Chicago, they have modern phone service
even if everything else there stinks to high heaven. Here in Skokie we
are not so fortunate. I heard we are gonna get dial service sometime in
a year or so. <g> ... our little village does not rank as high in importance
as Chicago where telecommunications and Illinois Bell is concerned. Is
it true some people can dial calls direct all the way to Milwaukee without
having to go through an operator? <g> In the example you cited, remember
telco is dealing with a large institutional subscriber. They can have
whatever they want, when they want it. Not so the average subscriber. PAT]
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Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 05:55:03 -0400
From: jwm@student.umass.edu (Jeffrey W. McKeough)
Subject: An Answer From NYNEX (Re: NYNEX Says No Ringmate With Call Answering)
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
I spoke last week with a NYNEX rep who, after taking my Ringmate order
discovered that, in fact, I could not combine Ringmate with Call
Answering. She did a quick bit of research, though, and came up with
an explanation. It seems that the first rep with whom I spoke was
wrong when she said that I could order the feature, but that it
wouldn't work with Busy/Don't Answer forwarding. The second rep, who
said that the two features would only work in offices served by
switches other than the #5ESS, was also wrong. Apparently, the
problem is that the CO in Amherst is running an older version of the
5E generic (I don't know which one) that supports both Ringmate and
the setup needed for Call Answering, but not in combination. So now
all I have to do is get NYNEX to upgrade the generic. %-) (Actually,
is that even remotely possible?)
BTW, there was no setup fee for Ringmate. The monthly fee was $3 for
one number and $5 for two numbers. Call Forwarding Variable could be
set in the CO to forward any combination of the directory numbers.
Thereafter, *72 would forward the preprogrammed number(s) to whichever
number I selected. I couldn't get the numbers I wanted (NXX-9595 and
NXX-2525) because they were reserved by a company. I was given about
15 numbers to choose from, though, and I was fairly happy with the
ones I wound up with. The Ringmate numbers could be non-published
with no extra fee, as long as I had one published number. (One of the
earlier reps was from Rhode Island, and said that there was a fee. It
turns out that that is true--in Rhode Island.
Well, looks like no Ringmate for me just yet. :-(
Jeffrey W. McKeough jwm@student.umass.edu
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From: john@banzai.PCC.COM (John Canning)
Subject: Re: ISDN Residential Use?
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 20:40:36 GMT
Organization: The People's Computer Company, Essex Junction, VT
keith.knipschild@asb.com writes:
> I am interested in ISDN, and was wondering could it be used in
> residential use?
> From what I read I understand that there are 2 64k lines and a 16k.
> What is a standard analog line?
> Also, do you have one phone number with three lines for incomming and
> outgoing? Would it be possible to be having a VOICE conversation,and
> be online with your local BBS and beable to recieve a FAX all at the
> same time with only one pair of wires coming into your house?
> If I am asking to many DUMB questions, please refer me to a file that
> I should DOWNLOAD.
Keith -
Let me answer your questions backwards:
1. Your questions are quite reasonable. I do not know of a file that
can be downloaded that contains ISDN answers. However, Codex
publishes a very complete and easy to read overview of ISDN. The book
is called: The Basics Book of ISDN. It is from the Motorola
University Press (Codex is a division of Motorola), and is published
by Addison-Wesley. I purchased my copy at a Barnes and Nobles book
store in Vermont.
2. ISDN at home is called BRI for Basic Rate Interface. I use the
two wires that come into your house to provide three channels for
data. The first two are 64K bands and can be used for data or voice.
The third channel is 8K wide and is used for switching information.
In other words, when you are on the phone with your office and your
Mom calls you, the 8K channel is used to signal you, rather than those
annoying call-waiting clicks that we have now. Of course, the signal
includes the caller's phone number so that you know "wow - that's Mom,
I bet it's important..."
You can have two active calls, not three.
The calls can also be data calls. In other words, you could have a
64K BPS connection to your office's network and be on the phone with a
friend. Or, if you want to get into video conferencing, you can use
both 64K BPS channels to create one 128K BPS channel, which is what's
needed to send video back and forth.
My understanding is that you'll have one phone number unless you
specifically request one phone number for you, a different one for
your computer, and a third one for your roommate.
The other type of ISDN is PRI or Primary Rate Interface. This uses a
T1 connection to provide 23 64K BPS data channels and one 64K BPS
channel for signalling. Of course, the signalling channel can be
broken down into an 8K channel for signalling, and a 56K BPS channel
for something else. T1's use 2 twisted pairs (maybe it's just one
twisted pair, I apologize for having a cloudy memory).
The coolest part about ISDN is that you can use the channels for data
or voice or video. You get to decide what's going over the system
each time you pick up the phone (or turn on the computer, etc.).
3. Finally, here's an attempt at answering your question as to what
is a standard analog line...
With a standard analog line, you can, at best, have 2,400 baud. In
other words, you can transfer, at best, 2,400 BPS. Of course, we all
have modems that run at 14.4K BPS now, but that's because they've
figured out additional ways of encoding data into those 2,400 cycles
per second.
At some point, your analog phone line is converted into digital data
and is attached to a T1 that takes it into the "Central Office." From
there, it travels over other T1's to whomever you are calling. At
some point, of course, it gets tranferred back into an analog
conversation again.
It is interesting to note that ISDN can be added to your existing
phone line at home. All you need to do is purchase a $600-$900 ISDN
compatible telephone and convince your local phone representative that
ISDN is available in your town. Tarrifs and line amplifiers are the
biggest delay in making ISDN available to everyone in the US at this
time.
According to a posting on the net earlier in the week, Japan is pretty
much ISDN ready to the point that payphones offer ISDN data jacks for
people's laptops.
Well, there's an attempt at putting ISDN into a nutshell. Best of luck!
John Canning
The People's Computer Company
Essex Junction, VT 05452
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From: whs70@cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h)
Subject: Re: ISDN Residential Use?
Date: 11 Jul 1994 04:13:35 -0400
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
In article <telecom14.310.9@eecs.nwu.edu>, <keith.knipschild@asb.com> wrote:
> I am interested in ISDN, and was wondering could it be used in
> residential use?
> From what I read I understand that there are 2 64k lines and a 16k.
> What is a standard analog line?
Today's analog line can support up to 14.4Kb well (and there are also
28.8Kb modems also).
> Also, do you have one phone number with three lines for incomming and
> outgoing?
You can have one number or many.
> Would it be possible to be having a VOICE conversation,and
> be online with your local BBS and beable to recieve a FAX all at the
> same time with only one pair of wires coming into your house?
Yes, you could have one voice conversation on one B channel, you could
receive a FAX on the other B channel and the D channel could be
connected via packet data (X.25) to your BBS (if the BBS had a packet
capability).
To receive an ISDN information package, call us at our toll free
number (1-800-992-ISDN) or send an email request to:
isdn@cc.bellcore.com
Bill Sohl (K2UNK) BELLCORE (Bell Communications Research, Inc.)
Morristown, NJ email via UUCP bcr!cc!whs70
201-829-2879 Weekdays email via Internet whs70@cc.bellcore.com
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From: jcm8@midway.uchicago.edu (jayne c mcgrath)
Subject: Re: ISDN Residential Use?
Reply-To: jcm8@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 15:26:07 GMT
> I am interested in ISDN, and was wondering could it be used in
> residential use?
Yes, I nearly ordered ISDN for my residence so that I could experiment
and have certain calls forwarded/deflected under computer control to
other numbers based on incoming number or time of day.
The inital cost was $1000 to $2000+ depending on the ISDN equipment
you purchase, I expect these costs still hold today.
> From what I read I understand that there are 2 64k lines and a 16k.
> What is a standard analog line?
A standard analog line is between 32k and 64k, depending on how the
phone company wants to provide you with voice service. The human ear
can't detect the loss of analog signal from 64k to 32k, so this
technique allows the Bell to get double the Plain Old Telephone Set
capacity on its lines. Sometimes the phone company will detect when
you have data on the line requiring more than 32k will switch you to a
64k line, other times you need to have the line set up as a 64k line
only. And the 64k line may really only be a 56k line if the phone
company robs you of every 8th bit for such things as error checking
and signalling (sort of their own "D" channel).
> Also, do you have one phone number with three lines for incomming and
> outgoing? Would it be possible to be having a VOICE conversation,and
> be online with your local BBS and beable to recieve a FAX all at the
> same time with only one pair of wires coming into your house?
Well maybe. The 16k "D" line is usually used as a signalling channel
to make and break calls on the other two 64k "B" channels. I think it
is possible to send data over the 16k line in and X.25 mode, but I
don't know what happens to your signalling capabilities (are incoming
and outcoming calls frozen until the 16k is free for signalling or can
you time slice a signal in with the other X.25 traffic).
Yes, you get two wires into your house. ISDN will work on the
residential cable to your house. You will need the NT-1 interface
which splits to two wire signal into a four wire signal to the ISDN
set. You can put a Terminal Adapter (TA) in the line to allow the use
of analog equipment. And you also need to decide how you want the
lines provisioned (Voice-Voice, Voice-Data), I think you can have at
least one of the lines as a dynamic line (Voice or Data, you decide in
your call set-up).
> If I am asking to many DUMB questions, please refer me to a file that
> I should DOWNLOAD.
For Ameritech ISDN info, try 1-800-TEAM-DATA.
You can talk to a person, or have documents faxed back to you via
touch-tone prompts. I think document 9999 is a list of the other
documents. They even give you the rates for the service.
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From: lars@Eskimo.CPH.RNS.COM (Lars Poulsen)
Subject: Re: ISDN Residential Use?
Organization: Rockwell Network Systems, Copenhagen DENMARK
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 14:07:27 GMT
To begin with the simplest: A standard analog line is a pair of wires
from your house to the central office. With appropriate modems, you
can get up to 28800 bps of data traffic across it.
An ISDN circuit allows you to have TWO phone calls at a time. Each of
these can carry a normal phone call or 64 Kbps of data. It also has a
slow (16kbps) data circuit used for setting up calls. This allows you
(or rather your telephone gear) to talk to the exchange without
disturbing the active connections. This side traffic could be things
like the central office telling you there's another call coming in,
and would you like to put one of the current ones on hold while you
answer the new one?
In some central offices, you could also use this to talk to an X.25
network. It is unlikely that a BBS would want to be connected to that
packet network, though. Where this is used, it is more for really
low-volume applications like credit card authorizations.
If there are ISDN fax machines available yet, they are very expensive.
To just connect a telephone and an answering machine to an ISDN line
will cost you something like:
Network Termination unit, with power supply ... $250
ISDN Telephone (nice model with speakerphone) . $280
Analog terminal adapter (to connect std asw m). $400
This stuff is still quite expensive. But once you are over the price
hump, it is also quite nice.
Lars Poulsen Internet E-mail: lars@RNS.COM
Rockwell Network Systems Internets: designed and built while you wait
Hvidovre Strandvej 72 B Phone: (011-) +45-31 49 81 08
DK-2650 Hvidovre, DENMARK Telefax: +45-31 49 83 08
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From: cwg@mcc.com
Subject: Re: ISDN Residential Use?
Organization: Microelectronics and Computer Technology Corporation (MCC)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 14:41:50 GMT
> I am interested in ISDN, and was wondering could it be used in
> residential use?
> From what I read I understand that there are 2 64k lines and a 16k.
This is what's referred to as 2B+D.
> What is a standard analog line?
A standard analog line is something short of 64K.
> Also, do you have one phone number with three lines for incomming and
> outgoing? Would it be possible to be having a VOICE conversation,and
> be online with your local BBS and beable to recieve a FAX all at the
> same time with only one pair of wires coming into your house?
The D channel is generally used for switching information. It doesn't
have enough bandwidth for voice data. Basically, you can think of it
as two phone lines although it's possible for a data connection to use
both B channels at the same time. Conceptually, you might have a
situation something like this:
You're using Mosaic to browse on the net and you see something you
like, so you start a download. The download takes both B channels, so
it's cooking pretty fast. While this is happening, a ring for a FAX
comes in on the D channel, so the download falls back to using only
one B channel and the fax starts arriving. At this point, a ring for
a voice connection comes in on the D channel. Now you're kinda stuck
because both B channels are in use, but you can see what the number
is, and you know that it's important, so you drop the data connection
and take the phone call. The download hangs. The fax then completes
and frees up the other B channel, so the download can reestablish the
connection on that B channel. Fortunately, this happened before the
download timed out.
Note that I was *not* talking about a BBS, but instead was talking
about a real network connection over your ISDN circuit. Most local
BBSes will continue to be analog connections for a while and will
therefore appear to the ISDN equipment just like a voice line, and
even those which do bring up a ISDN circuit, will probably simulate a
modem line rather than really implementing a network style connection,
so they'll be hard to "pause" like this.
Chris Garrigues (MIME capable) cwg@mcc.com
Microelectronics and Computer Technology Corporation +1 512 338 3328
3500 West Balcones Center Fax +1 512 338 3838
Austin, TX 78759-5398 USA
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Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 08:41:46 EDT
From: Paul Robinson <PAUL@TDR.COM>
Reply-To: Paul Robinson <PAUL@TDR.COM>
Subject: Re: Calling Cards - IXC vs LEC
Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA
> What happens if your 1) AT&T card, 2) Pacific Bell card, and
> 3) Sprint card all have the same number on them
Won't happen unless you ask for it that way, and maybe not with
Sprint, I'm not sure.
Local telephone companies still issue calling cards where the number
is the subscriber's telephone number. AT&T's standard cards are a
random set of 10 digits plus PIN starting with "85", and don't match
the number.
Local telephone companies will accept AT&T's card, as will AT&T.
Nobody else will accept an AT&T Card number.
If you want, you can ask for one of the requested number cards where
they issue you a card with the specified number on it. In which case
you can ask for the PIN to be anything you want.
> However, what happens when they are all the same number, including PIN,
> and I make a call over AT&T or Sprint. Does the respective IXC card get
> charged to, or does the Pacific Bell LEC card get charged to, or what?
If your Long Distance Company card is identical with your local
telephone company card including PIN, (and since each company has its
own checking system for valid PINs, you would have had to request the
specific number) what's going to happen is the match will be based on
whichever database the long distance company looks up first, the
national one of local telephone company cards, or their own list of
their own cards.
My guess is that if you requested a long distance company card with
the same number and PIN as your local telephone company's credit card,
then the long distance company's computer probably will, when you dial
a number, assume it's the local company's card since they probably
check that database first.
Paul Robinson - Paul@TDR.COM
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From: dreuben@netcom.com (Cid Technologies)
Subject: Re: Cell One/NY Problem
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 13:31:50 PDT
On Thu Jul 7 17:26:53 1994, stans@panix.com (Stan Schwartz) wrote:
> I am a Cell One NY/NJ customer, and I couldn't make any calls in
> Montreal, although I was able to receive calls there through NACN
> delivery. The CellOne rep's answer at the time was that I was roaming
> on the wrong carrier. While it seemed impossible, I didn't pursue it.
... which is too bad -- the "wrong carrier" is a typical response you
get from poorly-trained customer service reps who simply want to
dismiss you and get on to the next call. Had they actually listened to
you, and noted that you WERE able to receive NACN calls, the "wrong
carrier" item on their "things which the customer can mess up" list
would be eliminated from consideration.
I am a bit surprised that this happened/ with CO/NY -- they usually
have better than average customer service reps, who will pass the
issue on to the right people if they can not answer it. It's a shame
that customers almost need to insist that they know what they are
doing before anyone pays attention to them. It just reflects poorly
upon customer service training and how the reps are updated with new
features to the local and NACN systems. There needs to be a mechanism
in place where cust. svc. reps. are mandated to keep up to date, ie,
reading service bulletins and being tested on what they read, and even
going so far as to mandate that they actually USE their (usually free)
carphones and roam with them "X" hours per month so they can see for
themselves what real customers are experiencing on a daily basis.
This isn't AS much a problem with CO/NY, but some other carriers even
have switch techs and customer service managers who have absolutely no
idea what is going on outside their offices! Bell Atlantic's B side
*troubleshooting* people (one rep called Anne in particular) had NO
IDEA that call-forwarding outside your home market was legal -- she
gave me that old standby "Oh, the FCC prohibits this ...", which made
me absolutely furious that I had to sit there and argue with someone
who supposedly was there to help!
And many times when a customer calls customer service, especially with
a roaming issue such as the above, the call concerns a problem which
is easily rectified, as long as the customer service representative
*understands* the nature of the problem. In the instant case, however,
this did not happen, and Stan Schwartz could have simply got fed up
and said "I'm switching to NYNEX, since my friend's NYNEX/B-Side
service works fine in Montreal, with no problems at all." If cell cos.
wish to remain competitive with each other as well as with newly
emerging alternate wireless services, it is incumbent upon them to
improve the degree of service rendered by cust svc., which in most
cases that I've been involved in is well below any reasonable standard
of customer satisfaction when dealing with even the most simple of
technical issues.
> *** UNTIL THE BILL CAME, THAT IS ***
> I was charged almost $12.00 for calls I attempted to make in Montreal,
> and the only preson I ended up talking to was a CanTel rep. At the
> time, he said that there was an indicator on my account that he'd
> never seen before that was not allowing me to make calls.
Hmmm ... weird ... the fraud prevention feature should have just
disallowed all calls and hit you with a re-order or "The telephone you
are calling from is restricted from calling the number dialed" or
something to that effect. If you were indeed billed for blocked calls,
it is either a CanTel billing problem or something weird on the NACN
in Canada where you are still billed for blocked calls. The same thing
happened to me and I was not billed, but maybe something new is going
on ...
> When I called for credit for the incomplete calls, a more-knowledgeable
> CellOne rep figured out the problem. The stupid "Fraud Prevention"
> feature indicator, which is not supposed to be passed to other
> systems, was passed to CanTel and they didn't know how to handle it.
The "feature" is in the NY switch -- when you make a call from the NY
market or from a system that gets a copy of your home user profile
(ie, what features you have) as do most (all?) NACN systems, the Fraud
Prevention indicator is sent with it (I think). Actually, I'm not sure
if the Fraud Prevention feature is actually part of the subscriber
profile in the visited market on the temporary assigned number, or if
the visited switch looks back to NY/00025 and says "Hey, can this guy
make this type of call?", or maybe both? I say this because you are
both blocked placing calls from Montreal, thus your temp. number (TDN)
in the Montreal switch is not allowing you to make calls, while at the
same time you can not access your forwarding features in NY, which I
*THINK* is based on the NY switch's refusal to allow CF modifications
rather than Cantel's TDN refusing feature act/deact codes as a result
of the presence of the fraud protection feature in the profile sent up
from NYC when you first registered in Montreal and were assigned a
TDN.
Basically, the *56/*560 codes should work ANYWHERE where you get
auto-call delivery and can use you other features. The only place
where this will not work is Connecticut and Western Mass, since
BA/Metro Mobile is NOT on the NACN, and will not accept the *56/*560
feature codes (or at least they didn't a few months ago). So you could
roam there, get calls just fine, but if you wanted to place any, or to
force calls back to voicemail (remember they just die in most areas if
you don't answer the phone as a result of DOJ rules :( ) then you will
get a re-order tone and the attempt will fail. I spend a good deal of
time in CT and this was unacceptable, so I told CO/NY to take the
fraud protection feature off of my account.
> Cell One's solution is that if you know you're going to be roaming and
> you have the feature, call and have them verify that it's not a city
> that they're having a problem with or they'll have to temporarily
> de-activate the fraud prevention service for the duration of your
> trip.
Ummm ... OK ... seems like a bit of a pain. It *should* work in any
NACN market, and not make a difference anywhere else, except CT for
CO/NY customers. I'd be interested in hearing from anyone on the NACN
with the fraud prevention feature who finds that they can not use it
in another NACN market.
Doug CID Technologies (203) 499 - 5221
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From: waddell@iglou.iglou.com (Steve Waddell)
Subject: Re: NYTimes, err, FBI, Looking For Telco Hacker
Organization: The Internet Gateway of Louisville, KY
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 15:58:13 GMT
Concerning the "Darkside Hacker":
Don't take the NYT's, or for that matter the FBI's, description of
technical matters too seriously. NYT employs reporters and editors of
all levels of technical ability. The chances of having an article
written _and_ edited by a knowledgable person is slim. ANd the
reporter's sources are unknown or suspect. The FBI wants to catch
this guy and cover their own ineptness, not give good information to
the press.
Frontal assualt to CO's and administrative computers is unlikely to be
at all effective, but this guy's methods seem to be much more elegant
and crude. The "Social Engineering" that is described is a huge
threat, to the Phone Companies, and *many* others. You do not need to
be technically adept to use it, just smooth. Have you ever seen "The
Sting"? ...
Steve
waddell@iglou.com 10307 St. Rene Rd. voice 502-266-5695
Louisville, KY 40299-4040
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From: brerdier@access.digex.net (NEA)
Subject: NEA-On Line Update
Date: 11 Jul 1994 07:18:01 -0400
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Cyberspace Beckons Educators
The Future is Now
NEW ORLEANS -- Until the annual meeting of the National Education
Association began July 1 MrECH, LindaTeach, Wee Moose, and scores of
other NEA activists around the country knew each other only by their
colorful "screen names."
After six days at the NEA meeting, these cyberspace pioneers have met
face-to-face and helped their 2.2 million-member Association take a giant
step into the Information Age.
NEA's 1994 Annual Meeting was the first to link -- via cyberspace --
the convention's over 9,000 elected delegates to NEA members around
the country. NEA is believed to be the largest national association
that offers its member colleagues their own access ramp to the
Information Superhighway. NEA Online was launched last September as a
special forum for NEA members within America Online, the nation's
fastest growing electronic network.
During the convention, NEA members around the country were able to
access NEA Online to discuss the issues debated by delegates in New
Orleans.
Articles from the daily convention newspaper distributed to every
delegate were also placed online each evening -- as were the complete
texts of addresses delivered to the RA by First Lady Hillary Clinton
and other convention speakers.
For many convention delegates -- and NEA members around the country --
access to the Information Superhighway is an important new issue that
deserves considerable attention. Teachers and other school staff who
live in non-metropolitan areas must currently make a toll call to
access America Online or any other electronic national data service.
To help remedy this gaping pothole on the Information Superhighway,
delegates at the NEA convention signed and mailed thousands of
postcards urging state public utility commissions and telecommunications
agencies to give educators an affordable "on ramp" onto the information
superhighway.
In other cyberspace-related action, delegates to the NEA Representative
Assembly also voted to have their Association begin placing Internet
addresses on all materials the Association circulates.
Throughout the NEA Annual Meeting, which ended July 6, delegates had a
chance to test-drive the Information Superhighway in a special,
computer-equipped demonstration area. By the end of the meeting, the
convention hall was peppered with delegates wearing flashy lapel
buttons -- "Hi. My screen name is ..." -- that asked fellow delegates
to meet them online.
If you have any questions or comments about the NEA's attempts to make
the internet more accessible to its members via NEA On-Line, please
direct them to:
NEATECH@aol.com (or) NEACOMM1@aol.com (or) NEAHELP@aol.com
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From: cjones@gse.ucla.edu (Chad Jones)
Subject: Apartment Complex is Getting its Own Phone Company
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 05:10:46 -0700
Organization: University of California, Los Angeles
I just moved into a large apartment complex (maybe 400 units) in
Culver City, CA. I got a note on the door yesterday from the
management that they are thinking of contracting out the telephone
service to a private company called ResCom, Inc. Apparently a survey
will be conducted next week among tenants. Currently our service is
provided by Pacific Bell.
I have a few questions about this service and maybe someone familiar
with this kind of service can answer them:
I have two phone lines. Can I keep both?
Will I have to change my phone numbers?
We were told we would get more services for less money. IS this true?
What about local long distance rates? Can I get the kinds of calling
plans offered by Pac Bell?
Will I have a choice of long distance companies?
Can I choose to stay with Pac Bell while everyone else is with ResCom?
Will ResCom offer ISDN- or ATM-capbable connections?
What about services such as call waiting?
I just bought new phones. Will they work with the new system?
Is ResCom regulated by the Public Utilities Commission?
I plan on asking these questions and more to ResCom when they call.
Chad Jones Network Manager
UCLA Graduate School of Education
cjones@gse.ucla.edu
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I would say most of those questions are
going to be difficult to answer until you see information provided by the
proposed vendor. When it arrives, please do share it here. One thing is
certain, they *all* say you will get more for less. MCI was giving its
very first customers back in 1973 that very same rap; they all lie -- there
is no such thing as more for less, just different ways of figuring out the
bill each month and various sneaky ways of hiding certain charges which
are bundled in with others, etc. So it won't be more for less; it will be
the apartment management gettipiece of the action at the expense of
the tenants by sticking them with this new scheme which may or may not
be mutally beneficial for the tenants involved. Wait and see, and please
keep us advised. PAT]
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Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 12:48:47 MDT
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Global Networks" ed. Harasim
BKGLBLNT.RVW 940330
The MIT Press
55 Hayward Street
Cambridge, MA 02142-1399
Robert V. Prior, Editor - Computer Science prior@mitvma.mit.edu
Maureen Curtin, Int'l Promo. - curtin@mit.edu
"Global Networks", Harasim, 1993, 0-262-08222-5, U$29.95
linda_harasim@sfu.ca
A few days before I got this book, I noted a news story which talked
about the slow growth of the Internet in Japan. A local pundit was
explaining that the Internet culture and mindset was inappropriate in
Japan, leaving the impression that the American mindset was different.
Well, not to worry, Japan. The Americans, by and large, don't
understand the Internet any better than you do.
This was also interesting in view of the article in the book by a
Japanese author. At one point he states that email is unsuitable for
the Japanese, because Japanese communication relies so much on
context. (Whose doesn't?) In the very next paragraph, he states that
email is most suitable for Japanese because email addressees can't
interrupt the sender.
The preface doesn't give a clear picture of the purpose of the book.
The book is interdisciplinary in nature and written by "experts in
their fields", but the nature of those fields is remarkably hard to
pin down. Chapter one is really an extension of the preface, and does
give us a description of four parts to the book, but, aside from
"Applications" (more properly very limited case studies), any article
could be said to fit the designations of "From Technology to
Community", "Issues in Globalizing Networks", or "Visions for the
Future".
I read the articles in the book with a growing sense of disbelief. It
seemed to be an almost deliberate parody on the uselessness of
academic research. Papers without premises, conclusions that don't
conclude, and articles by people all of whom presumably have Internet
access, but almost none of whom seemed to have used it to explore a
wider world. The preface states this is a multi-disciplinary study:
it seems to be a remarkably undisciplined one.
(I must excuse certain parties from this indictment. Quarterman is as
cogent as ever; Kapor and Weitzner, while prosletizing for the IPN, at
least know whereof they speak. Jacobson does, as well, and while his
piece has a decided "new age" flavour, it contains about the only
passion in the book.)
One possible indicator of the lack of network familiarity is the
continual use of analogies to other forms of "community". Computer
communications is a new medium, and a new type of community. The
articles are therefore bolstered by literature surveys and
ten-year-old studies. The only recent experiment cited is the Global
Authoring Network, which can't be said to be an overwhelming success:
it produced this book. Or perhaps it was the participants. Two note
(citing a prior study of some sort) that email is not suitable for
collaborative work. Having spent seven years in one particular
collaborative research project, I have some trouble with a statement
like that. (The design of the collaboration over the Global Authoring
Network may also be at fault here. Network activity is much more
suitable to concurrent, multi-threaded tasks and discussions than the
arbitrary, sequential activity described in the book.)
The range of topics covered is broad. The representations of
specialty and culture by the various authors is likewise impressive
and potentially useful. The papers, however, all seem to be the work
of network neophytes, or, if they have some experience, it is with a
single specialty system or topic. About half the articles must bring
us the surprising news that on the net, no one knows your height or
skin colour. All of this stuff would have been interesting--fifteen
years ago.
This book has a possible place as a text for a course in computer
mediated communications, preferably as a springboard to further
research or a discussion starter. I would have trouble recommending
it even to a newcomer to the online world. I may be judging it too
harshly out of a sense of deep personal disappointment. I have an
abiding interest in the social, as opposed to purely technical,
aspects of the net. I have been looking for a book of this type for a
long time. I wish it had been done better.
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1994 BKGLBLNT.RVW 940330. Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated mailing lists/newsgroups.
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From: enews@access.digex.net (enews)
Subject: Broadband Networking News
Date: 12 Jul 1994 12:28:38 -0400
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
The featured article from the June 28 issue of {Broadband Networking
News} looks at the use of ATM to provide video and audio clips of the
World Cup. Here is an excerpt from "WORLD CUP '94 GETS A KICK OUT OF
ATM."
_____
World Cup '94 is using ATM to link sites across the United
States to make real-time video and audio clips of soccer match
highlights available to fans. This represents the most sophisticated
implementation of communications technology at a sporting event ever.
At the games in Italy four years ago, daily updates of scores
and game statistics were transferred to diskettes and physically
transported to game headquarters in Rome. This year, ATM is being
used by the World Cup News Services as part of the World Cup
Multimedia Project. Four SynOptics' LattisCell ATM switches will be
linked to as many as 32 multimedia Sun workstations or kiosks at World
Cup venues in Dallas, Los Angeles, New York and San Francisco.
Games and high-lights are being videotaped at each site. The
analog video is being sent over high-capacity networks to Dallas where
the information is digitized, compressed and distributed to each of
the remote video servers. Dallas plays the role of host for the
central news bureau. Each Sun server is connected to Dallas via
multiple Sprint- supplied T1 connections operating at 1.544 Mbps.
World Cup attenders will be able to retrieve real-time, full-motion
color video clips from matches being held at the participating venues
at kiosks set up at press rooms, hospitality areas and VIP tents.
...Technology at Your Finger Tips
Also available are video clips of individual player highlights,
interviews with coaches, and other information. Typical clips will be
30 seconds to one minute long consuming anywhere from 15-20 megabytes
worth of electronic storage. Additionally, more than 150 minutes of
prepared video, representing approximately 9 gigabytes, will be
resident on each video server.
"Because highlights and video information viewed on each kiosk
requires full-motion (30 frames per second), and full-sized NTSC
(640x480) 24-bit color video, ATM technology is essential in pulling
this off," said John Jaeger, SynOptics ATM product manager.
"Another key advantage with using ATM over other network
technologies to link the multimedia kiosks is the low latency required
to support audio and video."
Sun SPARCstation 10 workstations will serve as the kiosks for users
linked via high-speed fiber optic connections operating at 155 Mbps to
SynOptics LattisCell ATM switches. Also connected to each ATM switch
will be a Sun video server containing the digitized information
available for viewing at each of the kiosks.
_____________________
So begins this issue's featured article from {Broadband Networking News}.
This article and others from Broadband Networking News and additional
publications can be viewed at no charge on The Electronic Newsstand, a
service which collects articles, editorials, and table of contents
from over 120 magazines and provides them to the Global Internet
community.
Access to The Electronic Newsstand is available 24 hours a day, 7 days
a week via Gopher, an information navigation and retrieval technology
from the University of Minnesota.
For those without a local Gopher client program, The Electronic
Newsstand provides a telnet account which will allow you to use a text
based Gopher client to access our service.
To access The Electronic Newsstand,
via Local Gopher Client:
Hostname: gopher.internet.com
Port: 2100
via the Gopher Home Menu at U of Minn:
Other Gopher and Information Servers/
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The Electronic Newsstand (tm)
via Gopher Link Information:
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--The Electronic Newsstand Staff
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From: plarkin@iphase.com (Patrick Larkin Jr)
Subject: AlphaNumeric Paging via Email (Follow-Up)
Date: 12 Jul 1994 09:00:26 -0500
Organization: Interphase Corporation - Dallas Texas
Previously I posted to these groups:
> We are looking into a system supplied but SWB "MobileComm" that
> provides alpha-numeric pagers and some software you install on a
> MS-Windows system with a modem. The "operator" runs this program and
> fills in the blanks, then the PC dials up some system and transmits
> the page info.
> What I WANT to do is put some program/script on my SMTP hub (a Sparc
> system) and setup some email aliases so that anyone can mail to
> 'user-pager@domain' and it will send the Subject: and From: headers to
> the pager as if it were a person keying in this info on that PC.
Well, I wish to thank all of those who replied (I won't publish the
list of people because I will certainly leave someone out!). Anyway,
here's what I've found. Most Alpha-Numeric pagers' "Pager Central"
talk 'ixo' via a modem line. The first thing you want to do is see if
YOUR pager uses IXO. Dial up the computer that the PC dials up (try
300, 1200, ... 19200 if you get garbage) and press <RETURN>. If it
speaks 'ixo' protocal, the system will return 'ID=' after several
C/Rs. Once you've confirmed that your pager company uses IXO, find
'tpage' or 'ixobeeper' in archie. (They are the same program). These
are a collection of Perl Scripts and a C-Program to do the actual
conversation. You may have to mess around with it a bit to make it
work (I had to do some minor tweaks for our modems and add a sleep so
that Pager Central would have time to respond before I gave up.
Here's a few lines from the INSTALL notes:
[quotes on]
If you run SunOS you won't have to edit ixocico.c. If you don't run
SunOS you're going to have the fun of porting this program. I put in
a couple of #defines to get you started. Anyway, compile it with a
simple "make ixocico" and you're done with it. Do you run SCO Unix?
Have you gotten ixocico to compile? Nobody else has! Please join the
ixo mailing list (ixo-request@warren.mentorg.com) and tell us what you
did! [quotes off]
I wish to thank Tom Limoncelli, tal@warren.mentorg.com
for writing this program! Keep Up the good work, Tom!
<plarkin@iphase.com> PATRICK LARKIN - System Administrator
#include <std_disclaimer.h> /* Interphase Corporation
#include "clever_quote_de_jour.h" /* Dallas TX - USA
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From: shawnlg@netcom.com (Shawn Gordhamer)
Subject: Cellular Towers and Frequencies
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 15:16:23 GMT
I understand that cellular towers with small cell radius allow the
cellular frequencies to be used over and over, allowing thousands of
simultanious cellular conversations. I also understand that no two
adjacent towers can use the same frequencies because there will be
interference.
Where I live, there are lots of small towns that have only one
cellular tower. Since there are 333 frequencies per carrier, this is
probably plenty of frequencies for now. However, as cellular
(hopefully) becomes cheaper, and more and more people get the phones,
even 333 channels for a small town may not be enough.
A one-tower town cannot just put up another tower, because the towers
will be adjacent, and they cannot use the same frequencies.
Therefore, they would get no benefit from two towers splitting the
same frequencies. Even three or four towers wouldn't help, because
they would all still be adjacent and would have to share the same 333
frequencies. I would think that there needs to be at least five
towers before any frequency reuse is possible. In fact, for a large
town with dozens of towers, each tower would have to use at most 1/4
of the channels, making a grid pattern like the following:
A B A B A B A B
C D C D C D C D
A B A B A B A B
C D C D C D C D
Am I correct in this assumption?
Shawn Gordhamer shawnlg@netcom.com
Rochester, Minnesota USA
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From: VANTEK@aol.com
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 02:16:04 EDT
Subject: New Bellcore Book on New Technologies and Services
New Bellcore guidebook gives inside track on what's new in
telecommunications; insights on technologies and services
LIVINGSTON, N.J. (JULY 6) BUSINESS WIRE - July 6, 1994 -- People who
need to know about the latest advances in telecommunications will find
Bellcore's A Guide to New Technologies and Services a "must-have" for
their reference libraries.
The Guide, previously available to Bellcore's owner/clients only, is now
being offered to the public for the first time.
"We tried to take complex technical material and broad public policy
issues, and make them easier to understand," notes Bob Whitefleet,
Bellcore Vice President, Business Analysis Services. "It was a real
challenge, but we think the result was well worth the effort."
The Guide is intended to provide people -- from network engineers to
public policy professionals -- with a quick and basic knowledge of
many new technologies and services currently being developed and/or
deployed by telephone companies, along with the accompanying
regulatory and public policy issues.
The 330-page, 14-section Guide is organized into three major parts:
Technologies, Services and Public Policy Initiatives. Descriptions of
the major technologies and services, and related public policy issues
are included in Parts 1 and 2, Technologies and Services, respectively
(Sections 1-9). Technologies covered include Advanced Intelligent
Network (AIN), ATM/Broadband Networks, and Integrated Services Digital
Networks (ISDN). Services discussed include Fast Packet Services,
Video Dial Tone, and Personal Communications Services.
Part 3, Public Policy Initiatives (Sections 10-14), discusses current
and emerging public policies which affect the implementation of new
technologies and services. Among those policies addressed are Open
Network Architecture, Price Cap Regulation, and the National
Information Infrastructure/Research Education Network.
"The telecommunications industry is changing fast," notes Whitefleet,
"and staying informed is getting harder and harder. This new Guide is
one easy way to make sure you're aware of what's happening."
To order A Guide to New Technologies and Services, contact Bellcore
Customer Services, 1-800-521-CORE (within the USA) and (908) 699-5800
everywhere else. The price is $150.
Bellcore provides research and technical support to the
telecommunications companies of Ameritech, Bell Atlantic, BellSouth,
NYNEX, Pacific Telesis, Southwestern Bell Corporation, and U S WEST,
as well as Cincinnati Bell Inc., The Southern New England Telephone
Company, and other leaders in industry and government.
CONTACT: Bellcore, Livingston
Ken Branson, 201/740-6111
Barbara Kaufman, 201/740-4324
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From: dannyb@panix.com (danny burstein)
Subject: Re: Apartment Complex is Getting its Own Phone Company
Date: 12 Jul 1994 00:39:37 -0400
Actually, back in 1973(?) when MCI first went public with its execunet
service, they -were- quite a bit cheapr than AT&T.
So was Sprint, which I started with back when it was a division of
Southern Pacific Railway. I remember the booklet they sent me giving the
area codes -and exchanges!- that I could dial before they went nationwide.
(I used it for calling my gilfriend who lived in New Haven. MCI did not
cover the area.)
So yes, they -used- to have rates that were much lower (in my case
about 40% less, and even better when using a coin phone). Of course
today they've been matched (if you know how to shop.)
dannyb@panix.com (or dburstein@mcimail.com)
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Nope, you are wrong. They were not any
cheaper back then unless you play games with the phone bill and juggle
the bill's components around. See my furthern comments below. PAT]
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From: jimmy@tokyo07.info.com (Jim Gottlieb)
Subject: Re: Apartment Complex is Getting its Own Phone Company
Reply-To: jimmy@denwa.info.com (Jim Gottlieb)
Organization: Info Connections, Nakano-ku, Tokyo, Japan
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 05:33:09 GMT
In article <telecom14.315.10@eecs.nwu.edu> cjones@gse.ucla.edu (Chad
Jones) writes:
> I got a note on the door yesterday from the management that they are
> thinking of contracting out the telephone service to a private company
> called ResCom, Inc.
I would be _very_ wary of such a move. Typically, they will come in
and offer service at lower cost and with a kickback to the apartment
owner. Like GTE, it may be just fine for POTS, but forget about
anything remotely advanced. I bet ResCom has no plans to offer ISDN
or digital entrance facilities. Ask them what kind of switch they are
using. And what about CLASS features? And and and ...
My apartment complex in West Los Angeles made a similar move. They
threw out the local cable TV company and brought in some fly-by-night
(and without asking us!). Sure, the rate was a few dollars cheaper,
but we went from having 70 channels to having 35 channels, and we lost
our local public access, educational access, L.A. City Council
meetings, UCLA campus radio station, and other specialized channels.
This company only came on-site once a week, so any problems had to
wait until their weekly Tuesday visit.
> Can I choose to stay with Pac Bell while everyone else is with ResCom?
This is crucial. I would insist that any tenant have the right to
have Pacific Bell service if they so choose. ResCom won't want to do
this, because they will only achieve their required volume if all
tenants are forced to switch.
They will probably provide a list of the features they offer and it
will look rather complete; Call Forwarding, Call Waiting, etc. But
what happens after you switch and you find that they are using ADPCM
compression to squeeze more voice channels in and you can't get data
through on your line reliably.
Competition in the local loop may be a good thing. But only if there
truly is competition such that the end user can choose.
Jim Gottlieb <jimmy@denwa.info.com> Info Connections, Tokyo, Japan
Chuo 1-27-8, Nakano-ku, Tokyo 164
Fax: +81 3 5389 0188 Voice Mail: +81 3 5389 1099
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You are right on the mark, Jim. All those
fly-by-night outfits which talk about equal access and local competition
don't really want that ... those are the words that make it look good. They
rely heavily on unsophisticated telephone subscribers anxious to get service
'cheaper' than local telco can provide it. Yes indeed, you were quite right
in advising correspondent to be very wary. PAT]
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From: Bailbutton@aol.com
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 23:47:01 EDT
Subject: Re: Apartment Complex is Getting its Own Phone Company
Today I received my first editions of the TELECOM Digest. I was
somewhat puzzled by Pat Townsend's response to the query about
alternative residential service. The comment "they all lie" seems a
bit harsh.
In 1973 I was responsible for a small data network at Westinghouse
which polled a number of remoted sites and collected information for
central processing (God am I old!). We were among the first to use
MCI for our carrier.
While we had some technical problems, our experience was that MCI
provided quality service for significantly less money. I no longer
recall the amounts, but my recollection was that when we used AT&T
Long Distance during system problems our bills went up by a factor of
ten.
It will be interesting to hear about the experience of the questioner.
Jim Lawson
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Welcome to the growing readership base
of the Digest Jim. Yours was one of about a dozen new additions to the
list on a daily basis ... a list which I'm hoping will exceed ten thousand
names by the end of the year.
Yes Jim, they were all liars. Here is the catch: Although they *did* charge
less per minute on long distance calls, they neglected to tell you -- until
at least in MCI's case they got sued -- that *local call charges would
apply when calling their switch*. Remember now, in those days twenty years
ago, calls via <S>outhern <P>acific <R>ailroad <I>nternal <N>etwork <T>elecomm-
unications (hey, that's SPRINT !!) or <M>icrowave <C>ommunications (I>ncorp-
orated were dialed as seven digit local numbers to their switch, *then*
outbound through the switch with tone dialers, etc. There was no one plus
or 950 or 800 access. Here in Chicago we dialed 876-0001 for the SPRINT
switch, listened for new dial tone then dialed the ten digit long distance
number. What this meant was we paid for a local call *whether or not the
long distance end completed (it might have been DA/BY) the call*.
MCI went after large companies knowing full well that Corporation X went
through a hundred thousand local call units per month, and a mere ten
thousand more would go unnoticed for all intents and purposes. If you
tried five times to get through on a long distance call via MCI/Sprint,
you paid for five local calls to the carrier's switch -- again, remember
they did not have local or equal access as now. So when the bill came
each month, they could point to the long distance portion of the bill
where all the *coin-rated* calls appeared and say, "see, we told you it
would be less by using MCI ..." but they glossed over the fact that the
*local part of the bill* -- the part known as 'monthly service' with
the charges for units or local calls if you lived in a place where
such applied -- went up by fifteen or twenty percent. Whether customers
paid it all to the local telco or paid some to local telco and some to
MCI, the fact was the same amount of money more or less was paid every
month; it was just divvied up differently. Yes, there were certain calling
patterns or configurations where there was some slight decrease in the
*overall monthly costs for telecom (regardless of who got paid how much
in total)* but generally this was not the case.
MCI knew that telecom managers 'knew' a lower long distance bill would
appeal to corporate executives and that the same executives would be
largely ignorant of the increase in local traffic, or would tend to
blame it on 'employees making more personal calls than ever on the company
phones during lunch hour ...' etc. MCI glossed over the fact that the
higher charges of AT&T in those days included a *free ride* from your
local exchange to the toll switch; or at least transparently so to the
users. In other words, when you (using local telco/ATT conventional
dialing of the day) pulled that 1 plus ten more, your local exchange
sent you right to the toll switch; it could be across town, it could
be in the next county ... wherever. The charge for that portion of the
call was built into the AT&T rate.
In 1974 I filed a formal complaint with the Federal Communications Comm-
ission, asking that MCI be required in its advertising to plainly state
that 'in many instances, local call charges will be applied to your
local telephone company bill for connection to the MCI toll switch.'
MCI resisted that mightily, but eventually they had to start doing it,
as there were others climbing on them with the same complaint. I used
Execunet in those days also; I know of what I speak. And have you
forgotten about the 'local access fee' MCI used to charge when your
call dropped off their network in the local community you were calling?
Real bald-faced, they announced one day there would be a five cent fee
added to each completed call 'because we have to pay the telco in the
town your call is terminating in ...' and yet ... and yet despite that
they still were busy claiming there would be great savings using them.
MCI/Sprint in those early days in the middle 1970s got as far as they
did through two things only: they built on the anger many people had
with AT&T; people who wanted to 'get something over on the Phone Company',
and with unsophisticated users who believed whatever they read, many
of whom also had no love lost for Mother and her children. Like the
fly-by-nights of today who express amazement when asking prospects, 'but
wouldn't you like to pay less on your phone bill', MCI was banking on
the fact that most users were unsophisticated enough about telephone
service that they would not know the difference between chicken salad
and chicken shit ... and y'all got what ya paid for.
Yeah Jim, they were liars. MCI's first petition for service, filed with
the Illinois Commerce Commission in 1968 was fraudulent on its face;
but no amount of appealing by Illinois Bell could convince the Commissioners
here of that fact. Today, twenty years later, they've changed their
tunes to sing a more sophisticated version of the same thing they used
to sing back then, but the fact still remains you can't beat Genuine
Bell when it comes to quality of service. Again my best wishes to you
and the dozens of new readers on board in the past month or so. Enjoy
the Digest. I'll be back tomorrow! PAT]
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TELECOM Digest Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:48:00 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 317
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
Bridge vs. Router Performance (Scott D. Thomas)
Book Review: "The Network Nation" by Hiltz/Turoff (Rob Slade)
FAQ - Panel Type (Wes Leatherock)
500 vs. 700 Numbers, Not the Same (Wesley Kaplow)
800 ANI Number Changed? (Charles Buckley)
*78/*780 Added to BAMS/DC (Douglas Reuben)
Globalcom 2000 -- Are They Still Alive? (Rosemary Warren)
History of Internet (Adam Gruen)
SW Florida Area Code 941 (James Taranto)
Pacific Bell Saves its Backside (Alan Millar)
Central and Eastern European Telecom (Jane Fraser)
What is Autodin (Thomas Hinders)
Cellular Network Systems Design Software (George Emeka)
Security Systems (Stewart Fist)
Information Wanted on USA 'Dial-It' Numbers (John Hacking)
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Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 14:38:12 GMT
From: sthomas@mitchell.hac.com (Scott D. Thomas)
Subject: Bridge vs. Router Performance
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company
I have a puzzeling (at least to me) situation. We have a simple
network with a satellite link included. Orginally, we bridged three
ethernet segments as shown below:
( ---- )
host bridge----sat. ---- /\ /\ ----sat.---bridge bridge---DSU
| | modem modem | | |
------------ --------- |
|
T1 |
|
|
host bridge---DSU
| |
-------------
(BTW, for those of you wondering, we could not connect the DSU
directly to the satellite modem because of signalling issues.)
We tested the above configuration, and got poorer that expected
results. We decided to replace the bridges with routers, one per
segment. The throughput was tripled!
I was under the impression that bridges were more efficient because of
lower overhead, less complexity, etc. and therefore would offer the
better performance.
Does anyone have thoughts on the matter?
Scott Thomas
Hughes Information Technology Corp.
e-mail: sthomas@mitchell.hitc.com
phone: (703) 759-1382 fax: (703) 438-8430
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Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 12:17:30 MDT
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "The Network Nation" by Hiltz/Turoff
BKNTNATN.RVW 940331
The MIT Press
55 Hayward Street
Cambridge, MA 02142-1399
Robert V. Prior, Editor - Computer Science prior@mitvma.mit.edu
Maureen Curtin, Int'l Promo. - curtin@mit.edu
"The Network Nation", Hiltz/Turoff, 1978/1993, 0-262-58120-5, U$24.95
This book was originally published in 1978. It was intended as an
interdisciplinary study of this new communications medium known as
computer conferencing (CC) or computer mediated communications (CMC).
Fifteen years later, the authors decided to reissue the book -- with
almost no changes!
Turns out to have been a sound decision.
The authors have made a remarkably timeless work in an area of
tremendous technological change. If not for the warnings in the
preface to the second edition, it would probably be some time before
even the astute reader realized the anachronisms of terminals as
opposed to personal computers or workstations, 300 bps modems, and
mainframes supporting thousands as opposed to networks supporting
millions.
Part of the value is the breath of topic. Basic concepts, social
processes, cultural impacts, public access, research to be done, human
interface studies, economics, politics and the human experience of
communications are all brought together here. The scholarship is
thorough. The writing is lucid. The analysis is prescient and
insightful. (Each chapter starts with an excerpt from the mythical
and futuristic "Boswash Times": some of the articles are startling in
their accuracy. All are amusing and thought-provoking.)
The original book was visionary. I appreciated the irony of the
ending of the preface to the first edition. This foresaw that by the
mid-1990s the home terminal would be as prevalent, and as commonly
used, as the telephone. The original book entreated you to imagine
that you were at breakfast with a cup of coffee-substitute (shades of
the "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"!) heated on your solar stove
and beginning to read your computer-generated daily news--in 1994!
Well, solar stoves are a rarity (especially around Vancouver) and it
was afternoon, but I had already read "news" for the day, plus all my
email and digests. I am, however, a rarity, myself. Even though
Vancouver is a fairly well "connected" community, only two others in
my townhouse complex have modems, and neither has access to the
Internet.
The authors recognize this as their major mistake. If they had to
make one, that is undoubtedly the preferred one. As they note in the
preface to the new edition, everything they foresaw originally will
probably come to pass -- it may just take a little longer.
They also note, in discussion of the fact that CMC is taking longer
than expected, the social inertia which resists changes to power and
authority at all levels of society. It is instructive that the
illustration they use comes from a corporate boardroom. Corporations
have embraced the new data bases, financial modelling and record
keeping capabilities of the computer. They have been less pleased
with the active, slightly anarchic and socially powerful tools of
computer mediated communications. A word of warning to boardrooms --
those who fail to master the new technologies for fear of losing place
will likely lose all to those who master the technologies because of
having nothing to lose.
An excellent book; a classic in the field, yet it points to the future
of a society as shaped by computer communications.
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1994 BKNTNATN.RVW 940331. Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated newsgroups/mailing lists.
Vancouver ROBERTS@decus.ca
Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca
Research into rslade@cue.bc.ca
User p1@CyberStore.ca
Security Canada V7K 2G6
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From: wes.leatherock@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 94 13:03:52
Subject: FAQ - Panel Type
Thank you for adding me to the TELECOM Digest list. And now
I have read the FAQ and I have a comment about what seems to be an
omission on it.
I have quoted below the section from the FAQ on the historical
development of switching. This jumps from step-by-step to crossbar,
and it seems to me there is an important omission where I have entered
"************************".
Step-by-step was limited in its routing flexibility and the fact
that the routing was directly tied to the subscriber number. This
made it particularly difficult to use in large metropolitan areas
where many different routes might be required and became almost
impossible to use the subscriber number for routing from many
different locations in the area.
Western Electric and IT&T devoted their attention to this issue.
(In fact, for a long time Western Electric ignored step-by-step
entirely and regarded it as something for towns too small to merit its
attention. So all early dial systems, even in the Bell System, were
step-by-step made by independent companies.)
These two companies came up with systems that were conceptually
similar although mechanically quite different. The subscriber number
was dialed into a "sender," which made necessary translations to route
the number, then signalled a distant power driven switch. The distant
switch signalled back its location, and the "sender" gave it
instructions where to slow down, then to stop and progress to another
switch or connect to the subscriber line and apply ringing current.
Both of these switches were motor-driven, with clutches, and were
controlled by a distant sender. The Western Electric version, called
"Panel Type," had wipers rising vertically through panels of contacts.
The IT&T version, called "Rotary," had wipers moving in a circle
through contacts arranged in a circle before them.
These systems were conceptually so similar that a sender of one
type could control a switch of the other type, and there were a few
places where this actually occurred. However, provision need to be
made for the fact that a Rotary switch could be arranged to hunt
indefinitely in its circle, while a Panel Type switch would reach the
top and have to stop. While a Rotary switch could be arranged to hunt
indefinitely, this was probably not a common arrangement.
These switches were widely applied. Most large cities in the
United States, such as New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, St. Louis,
Kansas City, San Francisco and many, many more had almost all Panel
Type dial equipment. (The Los Angeles metropolitan area was a notable
exception, which because of the way the area grew had almost all
step-by-step equipment at one time.)
Paris, France, was noted as a great Rotary switch location. No
doubt there were many others.
These were, of course, the first common control switches and
preceded crossbar by several decades. In fact, Panel Type was so
pervasive in large cities in the United States that the first crossbar
switches, No. 1 crossbar, designed for use in large cities, originally
signalled exclusively by emulating Panel Type revertive pulsing. For
a while that was true even when one No. 1 office was signalling
another.
It seems to me that leaving out these motor-driven mechanical
switches with a type of common control leaves out a significant
milestone in the development of later dial equipment. This is
particularly the case since this was the predominant dial equipment in
the nation's largest cities for several decades.
- - -
Q: How many different types of switches are there, how do they differ,
and what switches are most commonly found in use?
A: The original telephone switches were manual, operator-run switchboards.
Today, these are generally found in developing countries or in certain
remote locations as newer types of switches allow for connection to
automatic telephone service.
Step-by-step was the first widely-used automatic switching method. This
was an electro-mechanical system which made use of rotating blades and
mechanical selection of various levels. Dial pulses would be used to cause
the switches to select switch groups until the whole number was dialed.
Some step-by-step facilities still exist today, but will eventually be
replaced by more modern forms of switching (typically a digital facility).
Step-by-step, with its mechanical nature, can be difficult to troubleshoot
and maintain, and does not inherently support touch tones or special
calling features without special addition of equipment.
************************
Crossbar was the next step in electro-mechanical switching. Rather
than the rotary/level switches used in step-by-step, connections were
completed by means of a matrix of connectors. The configuration of
crossbar matrix elements was under "common control" which could route
the call along a variety crossbar elements. Step-by-step's
"progressive control" could not be rerouted to avoid points of
congestion in the switches but was rather at the mercy of which
numbers would be dialed by the telephone users.
Electronic switches were developed in the 1960's. These were often reed
..... etc.
Wes Leatherock wes.leatherock@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thanks very much for your additional
comments for the FAQ, or Frequently Asked Questions file for this
mailing list. The FAQ editor is David Leibold, a long-time participant
in the Digest, and I imagine he will be quite happy to include some or
all of your comments in the next revision of the FAQ, which is done
more or less once a year as his time and resources permit. David, I
know you are reading this, so please touch bases with Wes.
And welcome to the Digest, Mr. Leatherock. You and several others this
week. PAT]
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From: kaploww@cs.rpi.edu (Wesley Kaplow)
Subject: 500 vs. 700 Numbers, Not the Same
Date: 12 Jul 1994 23:08:39 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
I believe that there is a significant difference between 700 numbers
and 500 numbers. Each IXC has the full range of 700 numbers to
allocate any way they please. This means that if you are trying to
reach a person with an AT&T 700 number you must use 10+ATT, for
example, to reach the correct person. The 700 namespace is therefore
not unique, and this would probably cause confusion as the default IXC
for any phone may not be the one you want if you simply 1+ dial.
The 500 area codes are being distributed by Bellcore. This means that
each 500 number is unique, and any IXC will be able to handle it.
Wesley K. Kaplow Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
AT&T Bell Laboratories kaploww@cs.rpi.edu w.kaplow@att.com
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well yes, you are correct in your explanation
of the difference. My original comments were more of a question about the
duplication of service between AT&T's new program and the established Easy
Reach service. I wonder if the two will continue to run parallel of if they
will eventually be merged into the new 500 service, or what? PAT]
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 03:45:11 -0700
From: ceb@netcom.com (Ch. Buckley)
Subject: 800 ANI Number Changed?
1 800 852 9932 used to provide ANI service in the US, but now I get
"your call cannot be completed as dialed" (which is strange, because
usually with bogus or out-of-area 800 numbers, the message is
different). Does anyone know the new number (if any)? Or is my local
exchange (a PacBell 5ESS) doing something funny, and the original
number still valid but kept at arms length? Replies per mail
preferred, but digest postings read too. Thank you.
------------------------------
From: dreuben@netcom.com (Cid Technologies)
Subject: *78/*780 Added to BAMS/DC
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 23:57:32 PDT
I just got a call from Bell Atlantic Mobile, who recently assumed my
NYNEX/NY account since I have a Jersey number.
After months of trying to get the B-Side version of Do Not Disturb to
work in DC/Baltimore, they finally put the codes in this morning.
Previously, it you had a NYNEX/NY account and used voicemail or
No-Answer-Transfer, you could not turn Automatic Call Delivery "ON" or
"OFF" in the DC market (00018), and if you registered (had your phone
on) there, unanswered calls would not go back to voicemail or your NAT
destination for over 4 hours!
When I was a NYNEX customer, NYNEX maintained that they were having a
bit of a dispute as to which codes should be used: BAMS likes to use
the FMR *18/*19 codes for BOTH automatic call delivery and Follow Me
Roaming, while NYNEX wanted to use *78/*780 for automatic call
delivery, and *18/*19 for FMR (although *780 will deactivate ALL
remote call delivery, even FMR, which is an odd and awkward
implementation).
This back-and-forth buck-passing went on for four months or so, and
since the A side now has automatic call delivery to DC and apparently
no problem with their Do Not Disturb feature, I put NYNEX on my
"things to do list" and figured it wasn't worth the aggravation of
dealing with them.
Since I became a BAMS customer, however, I figured it was all one
company now (BAMS services Jersey and DC), so I gave them a call about
this, and after some "Oh, the FCC prevents this ... It's illegal ...
its not in our tariffs" (you can tell they are owned by a Bell Co! :))
I got the right person and apparently the *78/*780 codes are in
place as of now.
Hopefully they can now get their other features to work, such as Call
Forwarding in most of NYNEX's upstate area (unlikely -- NYNEX says
this can result if fraud...oooooh! I think NYNEX calling itself a
cellular carrier constitutes some sort of fraud ;( ), CF in SNET
territory (more likely), and Call Waiting in sections of the Boston
system. We'll see ...
Doug CID Technologies (203) 499 - 5221
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Doug, I honestly beleive many or most of
the bugs in the cellular phone networks of the USA and the improvements
in service have been due in large part to your very tenacious stance. You
attack them like a bulldog and just keep on barking and snapping at them
until you get your way ... and that's good. PAT]
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From: ra_warr@pavo.concordia.ca (Rosemary Warren, Logically Yours)
Subject: Globalcom 2000 -- Are They Still Alive?
Organization: Concordia University
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 03:25:00 GMT
Earlier this year, there was a notice from a gentleman who represented
the above-mentioned company. He was looking for representatives to
assist in marketing prepaid long-distance calling cards, particularly
with advertising.
I signed up to receive more information and a sample card. Eventually
I received the sample card, which I had some difficulty actually
getting to use. Anytime I phoned the number on the back, it was
"temporarily suspended". Calls to customer service were helpful,
although usually a tad vague, and I actually did get to place a call
-- bad reception, but placed nonetheless.
Then one day in May, I could get thru to the access number! But wait
a minute -- how come when I type in the pin number it says I have an
invalid card? Puzzled, I phone the customer service 800 number ... no
longer functioning from Canada. So I try the alternate number (area
code 310) collect ... accepted. It seems that there was a card theft
and they would like all their cards back so that new pin numbers could
be issued.
Being a phone card collector, I balked at the idea, explaining I'd
like to retain my card for my collection. Fine, I was told: I should
send a fax with the pin number and other information to get a new
card. I did so -- adding some comments about how the system could be
enhanced to serve Quebec, where I had been approached to sell these
cards. No word, no card. Weeks scrolled by slowly. The numbers I
had for Globalcom all quietly ceased to be in service, despite the
insistence of directory assistance (and having the nerve to CHARGE me
d.a. for non-servicing numbers). The salesrep who first introduced me
to Globalcom no longer returns my e-mail (from either account).
Is Globalcom 2000 still in business? The snail-mail address I have is
in West Los Angeles (area code 310). Even though the rates on their
cards are more expensive than Bell Canada and card caller debit cards,
they did have a very good idea -- with some small modifications, it
could compete well in Quebec. According to the sales rep, they had a
dozen "satisfied" Canadian reps, including one in Vancouver. (Names
were promised upon recipt of my sales app, which I hadn't mailed in
because I wanted to test the system first.)
Any details most appreciated. Any used phonecards appreciated too. :)
Rosemary Warren ra_warr@pavo.concordia.ca *please limit quoteback*
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:39 EST
From: Adam Gruen <0006449096@mcimail.com>
Subject: History of Internet
How do I find out more about the history of the creation and construction
of the internet? If you have any source information you can share, please
send it to me. Especially useful would be citations on secondary
source materials including books, journal articles, or media articles.
Less useful would be personal anecdotes. If you had direct working
experience with Bob Kahn, Vint Cerf, or the construction of ARPANET or
NSFNET, however, I'd like to hear the story.
Thanks!
Adam Gruen MCI Corporate Archives
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From: taranto@panix.com (James Taranto)
Subject: SW Florida Area Code 941
Date: 12 Jul 1994 23:09:45 GMT
Organization: The Bad Taranto
The 813 area code is being split, according to a July 1 article in the
{Orlando Sentinel}. Customers in Hillsborough, Pasco and Pinellas
counties (the northwest corner of 813, including Tampa and St.
Petersburg) will remain 813; the remainder of the area will become
941.
Cheers,
James Taranto taranto@panix.com
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From: Alan Millar <amillar@bolis.sf-bay.org>
Subject: Pacific Bell Saves its Backside
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1994 03:19:08 PDT
Reply-To: Alan Millar <AMillar@bolis.sf-bay.org>
My local phone company, Pacific Bell, started printing phone bills on
both sides of the paper this month.
A handy helpful paragraph was included in the phone bill, stating
how much paper and money this would save. It also reminded everyone
to check the back side of each page so they don't miss anything.
This reminder, of course, was printed on the back side of the page.
Alan Millar E-Mail: amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.org
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Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 14:02:11 EDT
From: fraser@ccl2.eng.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Central and Eastern European Telecom
Does anyone know anything about:
- the Alliance of Universities for Democracy,
- TeleCommerce Development Centers in Central and Eastern Europe, or
- an April 93 conference, financed by the World Bank, held at Christian
Brothers University, on telecommunications marketing issues in Central
and Eastern Europe?
Thanks for any leads.
Jane Fraser, Ohio State University, fraser.1@osu.edu, 614-292-4129
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Date: 13 Jul 1994 12:30:12 EDT
From: Hinders, Thomas <THINDER@SOFTSW.SSW.COM>
Subject: What is Autodin?
The subject says it all ... what is Autodin? I'm familar with Autovon
(voice) ... but not Autodin.
Thanks ... please reply directly and I'll summarize and re-post.
Tom Hinders/Soft-Switch
+1 610 640 7487 (v/vm) +1 610 640 7511 (f)
Internet: thinder@SSW.COM
X.400: C=US A=Telemail P=Softswitch S=Hinders G=Thomas
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From: uezechuk@mlsma.att.com
Date: 13 Jul 94 10:52:00 GMT
Subject: Cellular Network Systems Design Software
Hi,
I am looking for "THE CELLULAR ENGINEER" a software package by Neil J.
Boucher, which is claimed to be a comprehensive software package for
cellular systems design. Neil Boucher is also the author of "The
Cellular Radio Handbook" which I found very useful.
Any ideas as to who seels this package and for how much. Additionally,
are there any other similar packages which address design problems for
cellular network infrastructure. All help very deeply appreciated.
George Emeka Appollo Com UK.
------------------------------
From: Stewart Fist <100033.2145@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Finger Print and Retinal Image Security Systems
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 12:55:00 GMT
Can someone give me contacts for companies who are producing, or well
advanced in the development of finger-print or retinal-image (or other
high-tech) security systems.
Has anyone had any experience of how reliable and effective these are?
Has there been further development of home-bus or small-business
intelligent wiring standards which incorporate security features? The
last information I have is of the Philips D2B standard, and that's at
least two years old.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 14:19:00 +1000
From: JOHN.HACKING@telecom.telememo.au
Subject: Seeking Information on USA Dial-It Services
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Some mail I got recently. Anyone care to
answer Mr. Hacking? PAT]
Hi there.
My name is John Hacking and I got your Internet address from TELECOM
Digest. I wonder if you can help me?
I work for Telecom Australia as Product Manager for Premium Rate Calls.
The products I look after include Dial-it Information services (eg.
time, weather, sport results - 25 cents per call), 0055 services (recorded
voice announcements - competitions, horoscopes, up to 75 cents
per minute), and InfoCall 190 (live advice, fax on demand, data access - up
to $5 per minute or $30 per call).
I am trying to find a list of Canadian and American Dial-it type
services if such things exist up there. Any ideas? If you like, I
can send you a list of Australian Dial-it services in return. The
sort of thing I'm looking for might be the talking clock, weather
info, local news etc, but anything would be appreciated.
If you want to try out Australian dial-it services you could try calling:
+61 7 1194 Time (East Coast)
+61 7 1196 Weather (Brisbane)
+61 7 11661 Dial-a-hit
+61 7 11634 Your stars
These calls cost 25 cents (local call charge), in Australia, so it should
only cost you normal international call rates. It costs us $1.35 per minute
to call USA peak, so I assume your costs would be similar.
I am particularly interested in Canadian services as the Commonwealth Games
is coming up in April and I want Australians to call Canada!!!
If you can't help me could you please forward this message to a user
group or person who could.
My details: John Hacking
Product Manager Premium Calls
Telecom Australia
11th floor 131 Barry Parade
Fortitude Valley
Queensland 4120 AUSTRALIA
Voice: +61 7 8386426
Fax: +61 7 832 0891
Thank you.
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well John, let's see what the readers have
to say. I bet this time tomorrow you know more about the Information
Provider by Telephone business in the USA than you ever cared to know. It
is indeed a big business here and one that's made at least a few people
wealthy. Unfortunatly, publishing electronic Digests does not get one very
rich unless you have a very respected long time business (such as one of
the major news services) and charge a fortune of your readers. Neither
applies in my case. Corporate and individual sponsors of TELECOM Digest
continue to be welcomed and very appreciated. The International Telecomm-
unication Union in Geneva, Switzerland provides a monthly grant which
helps out tremendously here, but they cannot go it alone. If your company
would like to help with the cost of this Digest and be listed in the
masthead as a corporate sponsor, please contact me. PAT]
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TELECOM Digest Fri, 15 Jul 94 11:20:00 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 318
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
China Eyes Cellular Market (Cedric Hui)
A New Obnoxious Telecommunications Patent (Patents List via Monty Solomon)
Has Anyone Tried the New Voice Mail Modems? (Andrew S. Gelina)
IP Over Cable TV (Lubos Elias)
An Australian Modem in Germany? (Justin Bessell)
Mobile Communications (Lars Kalsen)
Long Distance Telemarketers (Ed Gehringer)
External Modems That Talk FAX (Dan J. Declerck)
Public Payphones (Bruce Maltz)
Wanted: Internet Access from a Rural Exchange (Tom Olin)
"Interactive Telecommunications"? (at5021s@acad.drake.edu)
Networld/Interop'94 in Atlanta (Atiwan Prakobsantisukh)
Wanted: Names of ISDN/ATM/FDDI Books (G.A. Grigoryants)
Sale: Northern Telecom Norstar Phone System (Christopher George)
Pager and Pager Network (Curtis E. Reid)
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From: chui@netcom.com (Cedric Hui)
Subject: China Eyes Cellular Market
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 06:30:03 GMT
While Baby Bells eye the wireless market by join forces to create new
ventures here, companies on the other side of the globe follow suit:
BEIJING (AP) -- Eight Chinese makers of cellular phones plan to set up
a joint company next month to compete with foreign manufacturers, an
official newspaper said Sunday.
The China Daily's Business Weekly said the new Jinfeng Telecommunications
Co. will seek to seize market share from Motorola Inc. of the United
States and Ericsson Telecom AB.
Those two companies dominate China's market in hardware and switching
equipment respectively, the newspaper said.
Portable phones and pagers have become a status symbol among the new
class of well-to-do Chinese created by the country's market-style
reforms.
China will have around 1.2 million cellular phone owners and ten
million pager users by the end of this year, the China Daily said.
The report didn't say how the products planned by Jinfeng would differ
from those currently manufactured separately by the eight companies.
It quoted Guo Youlu, an official at the Ministry of the Electronics
Industry, as saying the new company expects annual revenues of ten
billion yuan ($1.15 billion) by the year 2000.
China's government has sought to build up domestic high-technology
industries, sometimes with a coordinated strategy to limit the
penetration of foreign producers.
Last week, the government called for China to produce more than 90
percent of its automotive needs by 2000. The government already limits
car imports with tariffs and licenses.
In another news ...
BONN, July 4 (Reuter) - Germany agreed on Monday to help China
modernise its transport and telecommunications networks in a deal that
could eventually produce billions of dollars in orders for Western
companies.
At the start of a five-day visit by a Chinese delegation, Prime
Minister Li Peng and Chancellor Helmut Kohl set up a coordinating
committee of government and business representatives to examine
specific projects.
"The chancellor confirmed that the German government was prepared to
support the modernisation of the Chinese economy and the safeguarding
of the policy of reform by increasing cooperation, encouraging direct
German investment and expanding companies' cooperation with the
People's Republic of China," Kohl's spokesman Dieter Vogel said in a
statement.
Horst Teltschik, a board member of luxury carmaker BMW and Kohl's
former top former foreign policy adviser, will chair the committee
along with China's deputy planning chief Ye Qing.
Teltschik said four projects would be considered over the
next 18 months:
-- a 2,000-km (1,240 mile) rail and ferry link between the
port of Dalian in northern China to Shanghai, which would later
be extended to the southern province of Hainan;
-- a 600 km (330 mile) rail link from the coalfields south
of Peking to Huanghua;
-- a new transport and communications infrastructure in the
Huangshan region;
-- a new international airport in the Pudong special
economic zone near Shanghai.
China estimates that if the projects are implemented as part of its
economic planning up to 2010, they would have a value of around $5
billion, but German officials said the figure would be much higher.
"An initiative like this has never been known until today, either
nationally or internationally," Teltschik said.
If the projects went ahead, they could also serve as a model for
Germany. "We have so far not succeeded in Germany in organising, let
alone implementing, the sensible integration of different forms of
transport," he said in a statement.
German electronics giant Siemens AG signed a contract on Monday
setting up a joint venture in China to build and operate a coal-fired
power station in Hanfeng at a total cost of around $1 billion. Siemens
will have a 40 percent stake.
The company said it also expected to agree other lucrative Chinese
deals involving equipment for steel mills, telephone exchanges and
other manufacturing joint ventures, but hailed the power station
agreement as a milestone.
"After operating successfully in the country's telecommunications,
medical technology, plant construction and railway technology for
years, the breakthrough in power plant technology that we have now
achieved is a particularly important step," management board chairman
Heinrich von Pierer said.
Nine German companies are on the new coordinating committee:
-- BMW, Siemens, ASEA Brown Boveri, Daimler Benz, Lufthansa,
Deutsche Bundespost Telekom and Thyssen.
Teltschik said the firms hoped they would be well placed to win
Chinese orders if the projects go ahead.
The two governments also set up a railways working group which will
concentrate on building a high-speed rail link between Peking and
Shanghai and signed a financial cooperation agreement worth 192
million marks ($120 million).
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 03:59:07 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.COM>
Subject: A New Obnoxious Telecommunications Patent
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 08:58:04 -0400
From: srctran@world.std.com (Gregory Aharonian)
To: patents@world.std.com
Subject: NEWS: A new obnoxious telecommunications patent
OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just when you thought that telephone calling couldn't get any worse
(due to annoying phone mail systems, and other such "breakthroughs"), along
comes some technology that automatically switches your phone call, when it
encounters a busy signal, to a node that provides advertising to listen to
until the person you are calling is through, when it completes the connection.
Having to listen to phone Muzak is bad enough while waiting, but now we have
to listen to advertising?
OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Greg Aharonian
Internet Patent News Service
(for subscription info, send 'help' to patents@world.std.com)
(for prior art search services info, send 'prior' to patents@world.std.com)
US PAT NO: 5,321,740 [IMAGE AVAILABLE] ANS: 1
DATE ISSUED: Jun. 14, 1994
TITLE: Telephone marketing system
INVENTOR: Mark R. Gregorek, Mahwah, NJ
Jeffrey C. Dillow, Sparta, NJ
ASSIGNEE: Quantum Systems, Inc., Mahwah, NJ (U.S. corp.)
APPL-NO: 07/718,080
DATE FILED: Jun. 20, 1991
ART-UNIT: 261
PRIM-EXMR: Thomas W. Brown
LEGAL-REP: Panitch, Schwarze, Jacobs & Nadel
ABSTRACT:
A marketing system selectively modifies an existing telephone network
by modifying a portion of the call processing software of the existing
telephone network and by replacing at least a portion of an audible
call progress signal generated by the telephone network by a
prerecorded announcement. A calling party places a telephone call at a
first telephone to a second telephone having a particular calling
status. Once the call is made, a switch or an associated network
signaling system determines the busy/idle status of the second
telephone. In place of the usual ringback or busy signal, an
announcement indicates to the calling party the status of the second
telephone and a series of announcements are played for a predetermined
period of time. During the announcements, the system continues to
determine the status of the telephone line of the second telephone.
The announcements are played until the call is completed or abandoned.
We claim:
1. A marketing system for selectively modifying an existing telephone
network by modifying a portion of the call processing software of the
existing telephone network and by replacing at least a portion of an
audible call progress signal including either a busy signal or a
ringback signal generated by the telephone network by a generally
continuous prerecorded announcement, the system comprising:
means for placing a telephone call by a calling party at a first telephone;
means for connecting the telephone call to an identified called station at a
second telephone having a particular calling status;
means for initially determining the busy/idle status of the second
telephone, said determining means thereafter checking the busy/idle status
of the second telephone at predetermined intervals prior to completion of
the call;
means for playing at least one generally continuous announcement to the
calling party for a predetermined period of time during a time period when
an audible call progress signal would have been provided to the calling
party, said playing means determining the announcement to play based upon
criteria established exclusively by the marketing system and independently
of the identity of the called station; and
means for terminating the playing of the announcement and completing the
call to the called station, in the case of the second telephone having an
initial idle status, said announcement terminating and call completing
means completing the call when the second telephone is answered and, in the
case of the second telephone having an initial busy status, said
announcement terminating and call completing means completing the call when
the status of the second telephone changes to an idle status and the second
telephone is thereafter answered.
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Too bad the folks reading the Patents
mailing list are just finding out about this. We discussed it briefly here
in TELECOM Digest about two or three years ago. I believe some long
distance carriers may have already experimented with it. PAT]
------------------------------
From: GRIDE@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (ANDREW S GELINA)
Subject: Has Anyone Tried the New Voice Mail Modems?
Date: 14 Jul 1994 00:48:38 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Amherst
Does anyone, with a Macintosh particuliarly, have any
experience with Voice Mail modems and software? How well do they
perform? Are they a comparable personal version of commercial
services? If anyone has any feedback, especially on FaxMac (?) VM
software by Prometheus, please reply.
I would also be curious to see how well the IBM versions
worked. Can you have two modems running different versions of the
same application, using two different COM ports, but the same
messaging database? In other words, a two line version of the Voice
Mail system?
I asked some of the techs at Prometheus if they had ever tried
this and they said they had never thought of it. Have any of you?
Andrew
------------------------------
From: Lubos.Elias@uakom.sk (Lubos Elias)
Subject: IP Over Cable TV
Date: 14 Jul 1994 10:37:50 GMT
Organization: UAKOM Banska Bystrica
Hi,
I am looking for information about possibility to provide IP service
over cable TV wires. Are there any products?
Thanks,
Lubos Elias elias@uakom.sk
------------------------------
From: jbessell@mad.adelaide.edu.au (Justin Bessell)
Subject: An Australian Modem in Germany?
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 17:30:50 GMT
Organization: Department of Surgery, University of Adelaide
Hi,
I have a Hayes compatible 14.4 fax/modem which I use on the Australian
phone system. Can anyone tell me if, and how I might get this to work
on the European phone network. I am planning to visit Germany for
three to six months next year and will be powerless without communications
ability.
Justin Bessell jbessell@medicine.adelaide.edu.au
------------------------------
From: dalk@login.dkuug.dk (Lars Kalsen)
Subject: Mobile Communications
Date: 14 Jul 94 08:50:11 GMT
Organization: DKnet
Hi - outthere,
I am writing on a book (in Danish) about Mobile Communications. For
this I need a lot of inspiration and a good feeling of what is going
on in the area. The book will include the following subjects:
- Analog mobile telephony (PMR, Cellular)
- Digital Mobile Telephony (PMR, cellular) especially
GSM.
- Paging including ERMES.
- Cordless Telephones including DECT.
- Mobile Satellite Communications
- Mobile Datatransmission
- Wireless LAN's
- Future Trends
If you have any informations about:
- articles, overviews or documents of interest
- ongoing projects using mobile communications
- technologies in the area
- Internet sites with information.
then please send a copy of the information to me -- either by ordinary
mail or by E-mail. (You can also fax them to me -- my fax number is the
same as my telephone number, so just call me and tell me that a fax is
on the way -- then I will switch on my fax machine -- or if it fails
first time because I pick up the telephone -- just send it again and I
will know that it is a fax).
Thank you very much.
Greeting from Denmark,
Lars Kalsen
Kingosvej 5 D
9490 Pandrup
Denmark
Tel. (and fax) : +45 98 24 65 02
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Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 19:04:38 -0400
From: gehringe@eos.ncsu.edu
Subject: Long Distance Telemarketers
To get rid of junk calls ...
-- --- --- -- ---- -----
You can join an organization called Private Citizen, Inc., P. O. Box
233, Naperville, IL 60566, (708) 393-1555. It costs $20 to join.
They send a directory "twice a year to every firm that we believe to
be involved in the Junk Call Industry [sic] (including firms that sell
private information about you to telemarketers). The communication
basically says that you demand a $100 fee for each junk call you get.
Their brochure quotes the {Wall Street Journal} (among others), as
saying, "Their [Private Citizen's] strategy is michievous, ruthless,
and surprisingly effective."
Since I joined about two years ago, I've received only about three
telemarketing calls. However, during that time, I've received dozens
of phone calls asking for donations to this and that cause, so
apparently it only works for organizations who give you back something
for the money you send them.
Ed Gehringer, Dept. ECE & CSC, North Carolina State Univ. efg@ncsu.edu
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: We've discussed 'Private Citizen' here in
the past. The fellow operating the organization started it several years
ago, and among other times, a couple years ago here in the Digest we had
a rather detailed account of how it operates. The reason his plan cannot
be of assistance where calls from political and charitable organizations
is concerned (it only is effective with commercial sales pitches) has to
do in part -- maybe mostly -- with court rulings regarding the freedom
of speech issues involved where politicians are concerned. Take for example
the laws in some states which prohibit the use of autodialers to make
sales pitches: charitable, religious and political organizations are
specifically exempt from compliance. *They* can use such devices. I
think also newspaper solicitors may be exempt from the ban on autodialers
where such bans exist. Again, the exceptions are based on First Amendment
issues where the callers and called parties are concerned. The distinction
is made where 'commercial speech' is concerned. I think when 'Private
Citizen' attempted to collect money on behalf of its subscribers where
a political action group was concerned (making phone calls to everyone
they could), they lost the case for the above reasons. Generally though,
as the {Wall Street Journal} pointed out, it is an effective outfit. PAT]
------------------------------
From: declrckd@rtsg.mot.com (Dan J. Declerck)
Subject: External Modems That Talk FAX
Date: 13 Jul 1994 23:21:15 GMT
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
I need the address (e-mail or snail-mail) or phone numbers for
companies that manufacture or sell external modems that can recieve
and send Group 3 Facsimilies (FAX). Can anyone help me out??
Dan DeClerck EMAIL: declrckd@rtsg.mot.com
Motorola Cellular APD Phone: (708) 632-4596
------------------------------
From: bmaltz@euclid.com (Bruce Maltz)
Subject: Public Payphones
Organization: CNS On-line Services (800-592-1240 customer service)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 05:32:06 GMT
Anyone know where I can get a list of Public Payphones in the US?
Bruce
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Huh??? You want a list of all the
payphones everywhere, such as their phone number, the street corner
they are located on, etc? I don't think there is any such list
unless I am somehow misunderstanding what you are seeking. Maybe
you can explain further or better describe what it is you are seeking
to find. PAT]
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 12:25:01 +0500
From: tro@partech.com (Tom Olin)
Subject: Wanted: Internet Access from a Rural Exchange
If the subject line looks familiar, it's because I made essentially
the same query last fall. My previous Internet service provider,
Speedway, appears to be MIA and shows no signs of reappearing any time
soon. So, here I am again.
I want to find a reliable, relatively low-cost Internet service
provider that provides PPP or SLIP access. Unfortunately, my home is
located in a small exchange (315-861) that is long distance to
everywhere that's anywhere. Thus, I don't have local access to all
the usual major providers. Since I will have to pay long distance,
I'd prefer not to have to pay for a host account on top of that. I
realize that Freenets and similar systems generally don't provide PPP
or SLIP, so my choices are few.
That's why Speedway was perfect for me. They were free, but they
could be reached only by AT&T long distance. They made their money by
getting a cut of the LD charges. I've heard rumors of providers with
similar set-ups, but I've never been able to find any.
Any leads or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I'll be glad
to summarize if there is sufficient interest.
Tom Olin PAR Technology Corporation Voice: +1 315 738 0600 Ext 638
tro@partech.com New Hartford, NY Fax: +1 315 738 8304
------------------------------
From: at5021s@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Interactive Telecommunications?
Date: 14 Jul 94 23:47:37 CST
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa
I'm looking for info on where I can get a grad degree in the
field of "Interactive Telecommunications" or related (such as
Multimedia).
Does any anyone out here have any ideas as to where I can go to find
such information or even schools that offer such programs? Can anyone
tell me what "interactive telecommunications" really is?
Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! (Please reply
directly via e-mail if possile.)
Al. (AWT001@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU)
------------------------------
From: atiwan@nwg.nectec.or.th (Atiwan Prakobsantisukh)
Subject: Networld/Interop'94 in Atlanta
Date: 15 Jul 1994 16:09:08 -0700
Organization: Academic and research support host at NECTEC, Bangkok, THAILAND
Does anyone have any details about the program they could share with me?
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 02:46:16 EDT
From: Grigoryants G.A. <grig@cs.msu.su>
Reply-To: Grigoryants G.A. <grig@cs.msu.su>
Subject: Wanted names of ISDN/ATM/FDDI Books
Hello!
We are students from Moscow State University. Could you be so kind to
advise some books about ISDN, ATM, with detailed information about
Virtual Circuits and books about FDDI.
Please be so kind as to mail us information; we do not have means to
subscribe to newsgroup.
Thank you.
------------------------------
From: cgeorge@netcom.com (Christopher George)
Subject: SALE: Northern Telecom Norstar Phone System
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 13:55:20 GMT
FOR SALE: Northern Telecom Norstar Digital Phone System
Includes:
1 Norstar DR5 6 Line Expandable CPU/Software Unit.
3 Black M7208 Programmable Multi-line Phones.
1 Analog Convertor (for answering machine or fax modem).
Complete User and Programming Documentation.
The CPU/Software Unit has built in expandablity for additional lines
and phones. It is perfect for any small business or startup.
Features include:
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caller ID
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plus many many more...
Purchased New for $2,660.00 on 4-19-93. Price $1,495 or best offer.
Please email direct.
Thank you,
Chris George
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Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 00:21:08 EDT
From: Curtis E. Reid <CER2520@ritvax.isc.rit.edu>
Subject: Pager and Pager Network
PageNew York, a pager network company and is a division of Arch
Communications Group, offers TDD paging service for deaf and hard of
hearing customers. The TDD pager service is a dedicated TDD number
that you call on a TDD. The service automatically answers in TDD and
asks you for the pager number then asks you to type a text message and
hang up. Then, it is sent to an alphanumeric pager such as Advisor or
Memo Express.
PageNew York believes they are the only pager network company to offer
TDD service. I tried to call MobilComm but they would not accept a
voice relay call from me (says its their office procedure not to
accept third-party calls).
Do you, TELECOM Digest readers, know of any other pager network
companies in the U.S.A. that also offer TDD paging? If so, can you
give me their name, address, contact, and phone number (TDD if
possible)?
On another track, PageNew York says that a pager can only be used with
a single page network company you subscribe to. Their rationale is
that the pager frequency is specific to the company and is not
transportable to another pager network company. Not like the way
cellular phone company do. I told them I find it hard to believe
because I'm sure there are a lot of people who travel frequently and
would need to be paged wherever they are. Can anyone explain what
exactly is the restriction on the pager for certain coverage?
Thanks in advance for any information you can provide on paging and
pagers.
Curtis E. Reid CER2520@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Rochester Institute of Technology/NTID REID@DECUS.org (DECUS)
52 Lomb Memorial Drive 716.475.6089 TTY 475.5049 Voice
Rochester, NY 14623-5604 U.S.A. 716.475.6500 Fax
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TELECOM Digest Fri, 15 Jul 94 12:01:00 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 319
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
Book Review: "Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh" by Engst (Rob Slade)
Update to Country Codes Introduction in Archives (David Leibold)
Updated Canada Direct Listing (David Leibold)
IBM & HK Embark on Video-on-Demand Service (Cedric Hui)
Call For Participation: BOFs at NetWorld+Interop (Ole J. Jacobsen)
Is NYNEX (NYC) Expecting Competition? (Danny Burstein)
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Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 09:44:04 MDT
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh" by Engst
BKINTSKM.RVW 940425
Hayden Books
11711 N. College Ave., Suite 140
Carmel, IN 46032-5634 USA
317-573-2500 317-581-3535
800-428-5331 800-428-3804
hayden@hayden.com
"Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh", Engst, 1993, 1-56830-064-6,
U$29.95 / C$37.995
ace@tidbits.com
This is a very good introduction to the Internet; what it is, how it
works, and how to behave in relation to it. Regardless of your
system, you will find valuable information and resources.
Part one, comprising chapters one to four, is a fairly standard
introduction to the net. Engst, however, writes in a very friendly
and open style. He also gives a lot of coverage to the personal
aspects of the Internet, and doesn't limit himself to technologies and
applications. Part two starts to get into the major applications,
such as email, Usenet news, and others. (A minor, but very useful
feature, is "subdirectory" style headers at the top of each page,
which make it very easy to find a topic when quickly flipping through
the book.) Unfortunately, particularly given the later chapter
devoted to email gateways as access to the net, he does not give a lot
of coverage of email access to resources, although his coverage of
distribution and mailing lists is good.
Other areas fall short as well: archie is mentioned only to say that
it will be covered later in the book. The reference doesn't say
where, and the index is no help. It finally shows up in chapter nine,
which is a tutorial on access through UNIX systems. (The promised
coverage of email access to archie never does show up.) Part three,
ostensibly on making a connection to the Internet, contains some very
valuable material. Chapter eight gives a great comparison of Internet
access via America Online, Applelink, BIX, Compuserve, Delphi, GEnie,
MCI Mail, Prodigy and First Class. Chapter nine, as mentioned, gives
details of the UNIX Internet application clients, but also the
detailed workings of the applications. Chapters ten and eleven are
Mac specific, dealing with particular Mac connection and client
software. The only concern I have, is that I suspect Engst minimizes
the difficulty of connection setup, particularly over a modem.
The appendices are very useful material, collected and well organized.
The Internet Resources is perhaps not as large as some other lists,
but includes WAIS, ftp, mailing lists, telnet, gopher, and miscellaneous
sites. There is also Gene Spafford's annotated newsgroup list, and
two lists of Internet service providers.
Thoroughly readable, and with analysis which does not flinch from
mentioning problems, this book could still use some additional details
and a touch more organization. The included Mac software would be a
boon to anyone wanting to set up a direct Internet connection for a
Mac. The book itself, however, is well worth consideration as a
general Internet introduction.
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1994 BKINTSKM.RVW 940425. Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated newsgroups/mailing lists.
Vancouver ROBERTS@decus.ca
Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca
Research into rslade@cue.bc.ca
User p1@CyberStore.ca
Security Canada V7K 2G6
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Date: Fri, 15 Jul 94 02:50:00 -0500
From: dave.leibold@superctl.tor250.org (Dave Leibold)
Subject: Update to Country Codes Introduction in Archives
Patrick:
You may update the Archives' "read me" file for the country code
listings as follows:
[-----------8< cut here 8<-----------]
Detailed Country Code Listings for the TELECOM Digest Archives
July 1994
Detailed country code listings are available via the Internet courtesy
of the TELECOM Digest Archives. These may be found at site lcs.mit.edu
in the subdirectory telecom-archives/country.codes. Not only are the
country codes listed, but also area codes within each country where
applicable.
The list is designed to list the nationally significant area codes.
Local information such as exchanges within a country's area code are
not listed except in special instances. Some nations do not use area
codes, but rather the local number represents the complete national
number. In a few cases, these lists may show the initial digits of the
phone number that determine the particular city or region.
Format
The lists are broken up into files representing each world numbering
zone (i.e. country codes beginning with 2 are in one file, country
codes beginning with 3 are in another, etc). The zones are as follows:
1 - North America (Canada, USA, most Caribbean nations)
2 - Africa
3 and 4 - Europe
5 - South/Latin America
6 - Oceana including South Pacific
7 - Russia, Ukraine, most other ex-Soviet nations
8 - East Asia
9 - Middle East, western and southern portions of Asia
Note that some exceptions exist to the world numbering zones. Greenland
has country code 299, in the Africa country code series. This is due to
the lack of available country codes in the European and North America
zones, thus a country code was assigned from the nearest available
zone.
In the country.codes subdirectory on lcs.mit.edu (TELECOM Digest
Archives) the lists will appear as separate files for each zone. Some
zones are subdivided into separate files due to the amount of
information involved in some cases. The UK (country code 44) has its
own file, for instance. File names in the Archives directory listing
will reflect the zones, and indicate ranges of country codes where the
zones had to be subdivided.
The lists are ordered first by country code, then by area code within
the country (for international dialing purposes, without any long
distance access prefixes for domestic use), then ordered by place
names.
In some cases, more than one place name is represented per line for
given area codes. This is done to conserve space, especially where a
country has many area codes and places represented. In such cases, the
place names are generally listed alphabetically, and can be found on a
text search or through such utilities as (in Unix) "grep".
Limitations, Disclaimers and Conditions
The listings are incomplete in certain areas; conversely, it may seem
to be very complete for some nations. This reflects the availability
of detailed telephone information for particular countries. In some
cases, time constraints did not permit complete listings at this time,
especially when an abundance of detailed information was available.
Assistance in filling in such gaps or correcting outdated information
would be appreciated; please use one of the contact e-mail addresses
listed below. Not everything was treated consistently in the list,
either, owing much to the aforementioned discrepancies and time
constraints in compiling the lists.
********************************* NOTE **********************************
* This listing is subject to changes or errors in source or compilation *
* and is particularly subject to the numbering plan overhauls which are *
* taking place in many nations. *
* *
* This is a volunteer effort, and not an official list, the authors *
* assume no liability for errors or omissions; use at your own risk. *
*************************************************************************
These lists were compiled for the benefit of the Internet community,
the computer community at large, and especially for TELECOM Digest
readers. These lists may be freely distributed for non-commercial or
individual use. For-profit use or commercial reproduction will
require permission from the list compilers.
Features and Notes on the Lists
Some countries do not have area codes, but rather the local number is
the unique national number. A * designator appears with such country
codes, indicating that no area code precedes the given (local) number
(i.e. dial international access code, then country code, then number
only).
In few cases (France, Cuba) a main area code such as 1 needs to be
dialed before a number in the main metropolitan area (Paris, Havana)
but no area code would be needed for points elsewhere in the country.
(Note that France is expected to change its numbering plan to assign
area codes to areas outside of Paris.)
The area/city codes listed are provided as they would be used in
international dialing to the points concerned. That is, any domestic
leading access codes are not listed (e.g. 071 STD code in the UK would
be listed under country code 44 as 71, rather than 071, with the
common '0' STD access code removed).
Some countries have completely revised their domestic dialing systems,
or are about to, thus many STD codes available in previous years have
changed or are no longer available. Notes are included in the listings
where appropriate.
Spellings of place names is complicated by various spellings for given
places, often due to spelling within the language group of that place,
or due to varying renderings of place names when translated. The place
names listed were ones that would be deemed most familiar or
plausible. In some cases, a listing in an English-language directory
was accepted as a suitable spelling, especially if that directory came
from the nation concerned. In a few cases, the Encyclopaedia
Britannica or the Times Atlas was used to resolve a few place names.
There are a few entries such as "Lisbon (Lisboa)" or "Prague (Praha)"
where the common spellings are different domestically and
internationally. Meanwhile, there are often changes to community
names; while these are updated whenever possible, it is possible that
some listings may use former place names.
Credits
Much of the information was distilled from various telephone and
classified directories and information posted on TELECOM Digest.
Telephone directories from such places as Toronto, the UK and other
international points were helpful. Sometimes an English-language
business classified directory was available that could list the
various STD codes for a country. The Hotel & Travel Index and OAG
Travel Planner also provided some leads for area/STD codes. Some
international calling listings from AT&T and Stentor (Telecom Canada),
Teleglobe and BT were also helpful in verifying area codes.
Thanks to the following for their contributions:
Nigel Allen (ndallen@io.org)
Andreas Birgerson (Andreas.Birgerson@p1.f407.n200.z2.fidonet.org)
Serdar Boztas (serdar@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au)
Richard Budd
Warren Burstein (reviewed Israel codes)
Dr. Aivars Celmins (celms@brl.mil)
Jason Childers (childeja@UDAVXB.oca.udayton.edu)
John Covert (previous work done on country code listings)
Thomas Diessel (diessel@informatik.unibw-muenchen.de)
David Esan (de@moscom.com)
J. Gao (an extra China STD code)
Paul Gillingwater (paul@hp4at.eunet.co.at)
Bob Goudreau (some general corrections, observations)
Gymnazium Praha-9 Class 4I (PROSEK@cspgas11.bitnet)
Gert Jervan (gert@elis.va.ttu.ee)
Ben Kinchant (New Zealand information)
David Lemson (lemson@uiuc.edu)
Manuel Moguilevsky (Argentina; South American help)
Erik Thomas Mueller (etm@email.teaser.com)
A. Satish Pai (Pai-Satish@cs.yale.edu)
Valdo Praust (valdo@berta.ioc.ee)
Werenfried Spit (SPIT@vm.ci.uv.es)
David Wilson (david@cs.uow.edu.au, Australian information)
Frank Vance (fvance@wg.wail.com)
Gerben P Vos (gpvos@cs.vu.nl, Netherlands comments)
There are likely others who have contributed directly or indirectly to
the list. Anyone who was omitted from the credits is encouraged to
contact one of the e-mail addresses below so that such omissions may
be rectified. Credits also appear in the lists themselves for those
who submitted information on particular countries.
Correspondence
For any correspondence regarding these country code listings including
updates to information, corrections or suggestions, please send e-mail
directly to Carl Moore (cmoore@BRL.MIL) or David Leibold (Fidonet
1:250/730 (david.leibold@f730.n250.z1.fidonet.org) or djcl@io.org).
Occasional updates are expected to appear in the TELECOM Digest
archives as new or improved information can be compiled. As this is a
voluntary undertaking, updates cannot be provided on any fixed
schedule, and are often for one world zone at a time.
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This message from David will shortly be
placed in the Telecom Archives country.codes sub-directory, replacing
the exisiting 'read.me' file which is there now. PAT]
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Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 22:52:00 -0500
From: dave.leibold@superctl.tor250.org (Dave Leibold)
Subject: Updated Canada Direct Listing
Reply-To: dave.leibold@superctl.tor250.org
Here's another file offered for the Archives and/or Digest, a recent listing
of the "Canada Direct" numbers as they are dialed internationally.
[-----------8< cut here 8<-----------]
Canada Direct
The international access numbers to Canadian operators, as of May 1994:
Canada Direct information within Canada - 1 800 561 8868
Legend:
w - wait for 2nd dial tone
[D] - service on dedicated phones displaying Canada Direct symbol
[P] - only available at public payphones
[K] - public phones require coin deposit or use of card
[%] - service only available in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Tianjian,
Hangzhou, Shenzhen
Country Access Number
======= ====== ======
Anguilla [P] 1 800 744 2580
Antigua [P] 1 800 744 2580
Australia 1 800 881 150
Austria [K] 022 903 013
Bahamas 1 800 463 0501
Bahrain 80 01 00
Barbados [P] 1 800 744 2580
Belgium [K] 0800 1 0019
Belize 558 (Hotels) or #6 (payphones)
Bermuda [P] 1 800 744 2580
Bolivia [K] 0 800 0101
Brazil 000 8014
Cayman Islands [P] 1 800 744 2580
Chile 00 w 0318
China [%] 108 186
Colombia 980 19 0057
Costa Rica [K] 161
Cyprus [K] 080 900 12
Czech Republic 00 42 000151
Denmark [K] 80 01 00 11
Dominica [P] 1 800 744 2580
Dominican Republic 1 800 333 0111
Egypt [D]
Finland [K] 9800 1 0011
France [K] 19 w 0016
Germany [K] 01 3000 14
Greece [K] 00 800 1611
Grenada [P] 1 800 744 2580
Guadeloupe 19 w 0016
Guam 950 1604
Guatemala [K] 198
Guyana 0161 (in Georgetown, 161)
Haiti 001 800 522 1055
Hong Kong 800 1100
Hungary [K] 00 800 01211
Iceland [K] 999 010
India 000167
Indonesia [K] 00 801 16
Iran [D]
Ireland 1 800 555001
Israel 177 105 2727
Italy [K] 172 1001
Jamaica 800 222 0016
Japan [K] 0039 w 161
Korea (south) [K] 009 0015
Liechtenstein [K] 155 8330
Luxembourg 0 800 0119
Macau 0800 100
Malaysia [K] 800 0017
Martinique 19 w 0016
Mauritius 73110
Mexico 95 800 010 1990
Monaco [K] 19 w 0016
Montserrat [P] 1 800 744 2580
Morocco 00 211 0010
Netherlands [K] 06 w 0229116
New Zealand 000919
Nicaragua 168
Norway [K] 800 19 111
Paraguay 008 13 800
Philippines [K] 105 10
Poland 00 104 800 118
Portugal 05 017 1 226
Puerto Rico 1 800 496 7123
Qatar [D]
Romania 01 800 5000
Russia 8 10 800 497 7233
Saint Kitts & Nevis [P] 1 800 744 2580
Saint Lucia [P] 1 800 744 2580
Saint Vincent [P] 1 800 744 2580
Saint-Barthelemy 19 w 0016
Saint-Martin 19 w 0016
Singapore 8000 100 100
Slovakia 00 42 000151
South Africa 0 800 99 0014
Spain [K] 900 99 00 15
Sri Lanka 01 430077 (in Metro Colombo, 430077)
Sweden [K] 020 799015
Switzerland [K] 155 8330
Taiwan [K] 00 801 20012
Thailand 001 999 15 1000
Trinidad & Tobago [D]
Turkey 00 800 16677
Turks & Caicos [P] 01 800 744 2580
United Kingdom 0800 89 0016 (British Telecom)
Uruguay 000 419
Vatican City [K] 172 1001
Venezuela [K] 800 11100
Virgin Islands (British) [P] 1 800 744 2580
Zambia 00883
Zimbabwe 110897
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This file will soon be an addition to the
TELECOM Archives country.codes section. PAT]
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From: chui@netcom.com (Cedric Hui)
Subject: IBM & HK Embark on Video-on-Demand Service
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 06:19:19 GMT
SOMERS, N.Y. (Reuter) - International Business Machines Corp.
and Hong Kong Telecommunications Ltd. said Thursday they agreed to
test video-on-demand systems in Hong Kong this fall.
Financial terms were not disclosed.
The test will initially involve 50 homes and be expanded to
400 subscribers by the end of the year. The service will provide
movies, popular television hits and children's programmes at the
users' convenience.
During the test period, Hongkong Telecom said it will conduct
market research in November to determine which programmes most
interest Hong Kong consumers.
IBM said it will provide the video server system, including
the hardware and software, system architecture, specifications and
training programme. Hong Kong Telecom and IBM said they will work
together on systems integration.
Hong Kong Telecom is 57.5 percent owned by Cable and Wireless
Plc.
IBM stock ended up $1.625 at $58.25 on the New York Stock
Exchange.
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Date: Thu, 14 Jul 94 16:38:33 PDT
From: Ole J. Jacobsen <ole@CSLI.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Call For Participation: BOFs at NetWorld+Interop
Following a long tradition, we will once again offer the opportunity
for interested parties to meet and discuss topics of mutual interest
in Birds of a Feather (BOF) sessions. The venue is NetWorld+Interop 94
Atlanta. This time, BOFs will be held Monday and Tuesday nights,
September 12th an 13th, from 7:30pm until 9:30pm. All BOFs will take
place at the Georgia World Congress Center in Atlanta.
BOFs provide attendees with an opportunity to discuss networking
issues in an informal, after hours, atmosphere. BOFs have become a
forum for users to meet with other users and with implementation
experts. These sessions are not intended for formal presentations, and
certainly NOT for vendor product presentations, but rather as a forum
for discussions of "unsolved problems." BOFs are open to all
Networld+Interop attendees, including Exhibition attendees, and no
special registration is necessary. Examples of some BOF topics from
previous Interop events include:
o Network Device Performance Testing
o Internet information tools (WWW, Gopher, WAIS, Archie....)
o Internet Firewalls and Hackers
o SNMP Testing
o Fast Ethernet Standards
o Networked multimedia systems
o Resource Reservations Protocols
o Using Facsimile Devices around the World as Remote Printers
o The Internet and K-12 schools
To suggest a topic for a BOF at NetWorld+Interop 94 Atlanta
please send a 50 word abstract to Ole Jacobsen (ole@interop.com)
as soon as possible. Space is limited, first come, first served.
For your information, the following is a sample BOF description:
Internet Firewalls and Hackers
In the wake of recent well-publicized hacking attacks, interest has
grown in the hacker's methods and the tools used to exclude them. The
use of firewalls and one-time password schemes can foil most common
hacking schemes. This BOF will be an informal interactive discussion
of hacking techniques, and the various tools and approaches commonly
used to implement a denial-of-hacker service. It will undoubtedly
include war stories and firewall designs and philosophy.
Ole J Jacobsen, Editor & Publisher, ConneXions--The Interoperability Report,
Interop Company, a division of ZD Expos, 303 Vintage Park Drive, Foster City,
CA 94404-1138, USA. Phone: +1 (415) 578-6988 Fax: +1 (415) 525-0194.
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From: dannyb@panix.com (danny burstein)
Subject: Is NYNEX (NYC) Expecting Competition?
Date: 15 Jul 1994 00:09:17 -0400
from an advertisement/legal notice by NYNEX appearing on July 14, 1994:
(typos are probably mine)
Note: From my reading of this material it -looks- like Nynex is asking
for the authority to reduce rates in service areas (central office by
central office) where they're facing competition. Am I reading this
correctly? If so, then what about the rest of us?
Could one of our legal/tech eagles out there make head or tails out of
this?
Text follows:
Title: Notice of proposed tariff filing for the introduction of
residence individual case billing (ICB) arrangements, switched voice
grade analog link service and changes to flexible pricing regulations.
Tiny text: Notice is hereby given that a proposed tariff has been
filed with the public service commission, to be effective July 1, 1994
(sic, even though this ad was posted July 14 /db) for the introduction
of Residence Individual Call Billing (ICB) arrangements, Switched
Voice Grade Analog Link Service, and changes to flexible pricing
regulations.
The proposed revisions provide for the following:
* Unbundling of Residence Equivalent Link Rates for Flat Rate Service.
* Introduction of ICB arrangements for residence equivalent links.
* Introduction of Switched Grade Coice Analog Link Service as a new
class of service. Switchde Grade Voice Analog Link Service provides a
channel for the transmission of analog signals with an approximate
bandwidth of 300-300 Hz from a customer's premises to a point of
interconnection on the point of termination at the customer's
collocation node in a Company central office. Switched Coice Grade
Analog Link Service will be offered on a month to month basis and,
where appropriate, under ICB Arrangements.
* Revision of the Flexible Pricing provisions to permit changes in
rates for the following services on a wire center by wire center basis
in any wire center where a certified local exchange carrier has
established a presence.
Individual Message Business
Individual Trunk business
Public Access Line
Centrex III Service
Intellipath (tm) Digital Centrex Service
Intellipath (tm) Digital Centrex Service 5-99 lines
Direct Inward Dial Loops
Digital Automatic Call Distribution II Service
Switchway (tm) Service
Centrex III Airport Service
Airport Service
Rates and Charges
The rates and charges (are available at the telco offices or at the PSC).
-------------
dannyb@panix.com (or dburstein@mcimail.com)
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Subject: TELECOM Digest V14 #320
TELECOM Digest Fri, 15 Jul 94 13:34:00 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 320
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
Book Review: "Total SNMP" by Harnedy (Rob Slade)
Caller Pays Cellular Number? (Ken Jongsma)
International Settlement Agreements (John Cadeddu)
WilTel's New Ad Campaign (David Cordeiro)
Announcing New FCC BBS (FCC World)
Help and Information Wanted About Republic of Korea (Xiaofeng Wu)
Boston to Israel Services (Dean Mancini)
USA Direct Question (David G. Cantor)
Odd Announcement After Dialing *70 (Jack Hamilton)
Ringer Equivalence: How to Tell What's Too Much? (John Sullivan)
Call Blocking Bypass Scheme? (Jody Kravitz)
Baud vs. bps (Hugh Pritchard)
Write Congress For Public Lane on Info Highway (fwd) (Robert L. McMillin)
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Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 12:16:39 MDT
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Total SNMP" by Harnedy
BKTLSNMP.RVW 940420
CBM Books
101 Witmer Road
Horsham, PA 19044
215-957-4265 215-957-4287
Fax: 215-957-1050
76702.1565@compuserve.com
books@propress.com
"Total SNMP", Harnedy, 1994, 1-878956-33-7, U$45.00
For all the people who talk very knowledgeably about RISC these days,
few even know what the acronym means, much less the concepts behind
it. The Reduced Instruction Set Computer is founded upon the
principle that developers, in real life, will never be either
comfortable or fully familiar with enormously complex systems, and
will, therefore, never utilize those systems to full advantage. In
practice, RISC processors attempt to apply the Pareto principle, that
80 percent of the result comes from 20 percent of the resources, to
code. Find those operations which are really used in processing, and
then make sure your chip performs them exceedingly well.
By and large, this is the idea behind the Simple Network Management
Protocol (SNMP). First outlined in 1988 as a short-term stop-gap
measure, it saw initial implementations in 1989. In spite of
established products already on the market, and an international
standard in the wings, it has become a major factor in network
development. This growth is partly due to the elegance of the
concept, partly due to the ties with TCP/IP, and, possibly largely,
due to the fact that it works.
Simple, of course, is hardly the term that most people would use to
describe network management. As this book shows, five simple and
basic operations can result in a total complexity exceeding six
hundred pages. Harnedy has brought together a wealth of resources
discussing the basics of network management, the background to SNMP,
the information structure and base, the protocol, practice and tools.
The largest single item is actually one of the appendices which gives
details of the Management Information Base Groups.
For those developing network management systems, this is a necessary reference.
BKTLSNMP.RVW 940420.
Vancouver ROBERTS@decus.ca
Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca
Research into rslade@cue.bc.ca
User p1@CyberStore.ca
Security Canada V7K 2G6
------------------------------
From: Jongsma, Ken <kjongsma@p06.dasd.honeywell.com>
Subject: Caller Pays Cellular Number?
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 94 09:18:00 PDT
In the Albuquerque area, US West and Bell Atlantic Cellular both offer
plans where the caller pays for the call. This is enforced by making
the caller dial 1-505 in front of the regular cellular number.
When a call is placed from a local phone, I can see how the local
phone company can rate the call more expensively than an in-state call
based on the exchange.
What I don't understand is how this works when you use a long distance
company such as Sprint to make the call, either from in state or out
of state. Sprint *does* complete the call, but it is at the normal
distance rate for that time period.
Do the cellular companies take the four or five cents a minute for the
terminating end of the call, similar to how the local operating
companies collect for any other long distance call? Or do the cellular
companies just eat the calls that come in via IXC?
Thanks,
Ken kjongsma@p06.dasd.honeywell.com
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I doubt that anyone at the cellular end
eats anything. What probably happens is when Sprint gets the call they
complete it via the local telco at the terminating end in the same way
as all other calls. The local telco then hands it to the cellular carrier
and bills the additional charge to *Sprint*, presumably to be passed
along to Sprint's customer. Most likely no one at Sprint has yet caught
on to this, but when they do, the same thing will result as when you try
to dial a long distance 976 number: the carrier will tell you the call
cannot be completed. For example, try dialing 415-976-anything via MCI.
Force it with 10222 if necessary. The response you will get back is that
'MCI does not complete calls to 976 at this time ...'. You'll get the
same generic recording if you try to dial 212-540-anything (that MCI does
not complete calls to 976 ...). Once the long distance carriers find out
that they are the ones eating the charges -- and the bureaucracy is slow
and sluggish, but they will find out eventually -- then most likely they
will disallow the call or find some way to adjust their rates to include
the additional charges. If nothing else, the cellular carriers will try
to force the issue, the way the 976 Information Providers did. The IP's
were tired of having all their trunks tied up with (to them) non-revenue
calls tossed to them by long distance carriers. Finally the local telcos
and the IXC's mutually agreed to quit handling them. PAT]
------------------------------
From: jcadeddu@netcom.com (John Cadeddu)
Subject: International Settlement Agreements
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 04:20:45 GMT
I am looking for sources outlining the structure of international
telephone calling settlement agreements. I understand this information
is available to the public and was hoping someone could point me to an
on-line source/ftp site or any other electronic or hard copy source
detailing how international calling fees are allocated between the
various parties involved in completing the call.
Thanks very much,
jcadeddu@netcom.com
------------------------------
From: David_Cordeiro@WilTel.com (David Cordeiro)
Subject: WilTel's New Ad Campaign
Date: 15 Jul 1994 14:06:24 GMT
Organization: WilTel
This is a sneak-peek at the new Wiltel television ad campaign. Rita
Rudner, WilTel's new corporate spokesperson, will be appearing in
national television spots starting this weekend. Here is a sample of
some of the unique one-liners you'll hear in the commericials:
------------
"If you don't think it's important to have a specialist, try having a
vasectomy by your accountant."
"I grew up in a low-tech home. We had to actually get up to change
the TV channel. I suspect that's the main reason my parents had me."
"Good thing I killed him. Now I can go with WilTel and everyone will
think it's my idea."
------------------------------
From: avb@cais.com (FCC World)
Subject: Announcing New FCC BBS
Date: 15 Jul 1994 15:12:44 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service
The Washington, DC telecommunications law firm of Smithwick &
Belendiuk proudly announces the launch of a new BBS - FCC WORLD -
featuring information on the Federal Communications Commission. We
feature FCC documents on-line (many you cannot find on Internet),
texts of important FCC Reports and decisions (IVDS, PCS Auction info -
on-line now!), Forums on hot FCC issues, free Classified ads and more!
The best thing -- its free and without a daily time limit. Give it a
try at 202-887-5718 (14.4 baud - two lines)!
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From: Xiaofeng.Wu@fernuni-hagen.de (Xiaofeng Wu)
Subject: Help and Information Wanted About Republic of Korea
Date: 15 Jul 1994 09:09:36 GMT
Organization: FernUniversitt Hagen
Reply-To: wu@fernuni-hagen.de
Hallo everyone,
I am looking for Information about the Telecom Infrastructure and
Industrie in South-Korea. Any help would be appreciated.
Xiaofeng Wu
Please send your mail to: wu@fernuni-hagen.de
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From: dman@bu.edu (Dean Mancini)
Subject: Boston to Israel Services
Date: 15 Jul 1994 16:46:07 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Could someone recommend the best way to go to send voice, data and
video between Boston and Israel. Data rates would not need more than a
56kbps line. I am not sure if I should go via the Internet or use
fully commercial alternative like Sprint.
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Reply-To: dgc@math.ucla.edu
Subject: USA Direct Question
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 11:27:53 -0700
From: David G. Cantor <dgc@ccrwest.org>
I was recently in England making calls to the US using the AT&T
service "USA Direct". AT&T says to dial "0500-89-0011". However in
it s directories and on London Underground maps British Telecom (BT)
says that the number is "0800-89-0011".
When I dialed AT&T's USA Direct using the latter (BT) number, the AT&T
operator asked me where I obtained the number, and then told me to use
the first number instead.
What is going on?
David G. Cantor Department of Mathematics
dgc@math.ucla.edu University of California
Los Angeles, CA 90024
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From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Odd announcement After Dialing *70
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 03:46:47 GMT
I just ordered Call Waiting using Pacific Bell's automated ordering
system (I called the business office and went through a series of
prompts which included entering my Calling Card PIN number). The
announcement said that the service would be turned on within two hours.
I thought "I wonder what will happen if I try it now?", so I dialed
*70, the code to turn off call waiting for a particular call. To my
surprise, I got a message saying "Due to telephone equipment problems,
you call to the 713 exchange cannot be completed at this time."
Any idea what's going on? There's not even a 713 exchange in my area
code (916).
Jack Hamilton jfh@netcom.com packet: kd6ttl@n0ary.#nocal.ca.us.na
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 20:54:37 -0500
From: sullivan@geom.umn.edu
Subject: Ringer Equivalence: How to Tell What's Too Much?
I got Caller ID last week; don't have any interesting stories about
that yet. But adding my (rented for now) unit to my phone line seems
to be causing problems with things not ringing.
A couple of times, I've seen a new call registered on the Caller ID
unit, without having heard the phone ring, or having the answering
machine go on. This morning, one such call was from a friend, who I
called back. She had called twice, once getting a busy signal (which
since I have call waiting, and wasn't on the phone anyway, must mean
another call came in at the same time). We tested my line a few more
times, and usually no phones would ring, and the Caller ID box
wouldn't even register the call, but I could pick up a phone and
answer the call. Other times, Caller ID would come through, but no
rings or answering machine.
I figured I now have too much stuff connected to my phone line. I
looked at the bottom of all the equipment for ringer equivalence
numbers. Two phones at 0.4A, 0.9A; a cordless phone at 0.2B; an ATT
UnixPC at 0.5A and an external modem at 1.0B; the new caller ID box at
0.1B; and the answering machine, marked "0.2A, 0.5B".
I called US West. They asked what number I was calling from. I said
"Isn't your caller ID working". They said they have five lines, and
thus had to check with me. Oh well, they don't even know how to use
their own services.
I explained the problem, without going into all the details about the
various phones. They said they'd test my line and call me back. I
asked what the "ringer equivalence" numbers meant, and how much I
could have, but they didn't know anything about that. Just said I
should be able to have up to five phones.
An hour later, they called. By then, my phones were ringing when
calls came in. The woman on the line this time said she had tested my
line and it was fine, but suggested maybe I had faulty equipment. I
asked her what the "A" and "B" numbers meant, but she had no idea.
Just told me to try unplugging different things and see what helped.
Not much help when the problem is intermittent, and requires incoming
calls to be tested.
OK, so enough story telling. My questions are:
What is the difference between "A" and "B". Are they different units?
(Amps and Bells??) How do I add up those numbers, and how much should
I be able to have on my line? Is it possible that at different times
of day (under different loads) the phone line will actually provide
different amounts of power for the ring, thus explaining the intermittency
of the problem?
Thanks for any help,
John Sullivan
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 94 01:33:29 PDT
From: kravitz@foxtail.com (Jody Kravitz)
Subject: Call Blocking Bypass Scheme?
A couple of nights ago, while channel surfing, I caught a commercial
for what appears to be a $3.99/minute phone sex number. The phone
number looked REALLY STRANGE. We get some Mexican ads up here from
time to time, but it wasn't in an international format. Actually, it
wasn't (appearantly) in NANP format either.
The number was displayed on the screen (with one field xx'd out for
the obvious reason) as:
1065-804-xxxx-A-VAMP
After thinking about it, it does parse into NANP format:
10658-0-4xx-xxA-VAMP
Here's a number that avoids 976 and 900 number blocking, probably nets
the vendor a higher percentage, and may even benefit from differrent
rules if the caller disputes the charges.
Does the vendor have to have Feature Group D trunks?
How does the cost of doing this compare to establishing a 900 number?
Does this violate any rules (it seems slimey to me).
Is this the wave of the future ?
Jody
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, here is a guy who has cut a deal
with long distance carrier 10658 -- whoever that is -- to intercept his
calls and deliver them at the agreed upon price. His true number is
4xx-xxA-VAMP, but try one plus dialing it via the carrier of your choice
and see what happens: he'll answer it with an answering machine telling
you he does not accept calls which have not been routed via 10658, and
to please hang up and dial according to instructions given. When you then
dial it again zero-plus via 10658 that carrier sees the call and intercepts
it. They then route it over T-1 or something similar and deliver it to the
customer bypassing the local telco in area code 4xx. *He accepts those
calls*, but not the ones that come on his regular 4xx-xxA-VAMP line via
local telco. AT&T has a few similar arrangements going with 'information'
providers -- well they provide something, anyway -- where the call is
forced via AT&T and the IP gets a piece of the action. When mother and
dad complain to the local telco about the call their son made in the middle
of the night to that number and the charge on their bill for a hundred
dollars, telco will refer them to the customer service number for the
carrier ... "they are the only ones who can issue credit ...". Mom and dad
will call, the rep will twist their arm and make them pay, possibly by
agreeing to a 'one time goodwill credit of half the bill'. It may very
well be that the folks at Integratel act as billing/collection agents for
carrier 10658, in which case if mom and dad want, they can have their
number(s) added to Integratel's negative listing database so it won't
happen again. Lots of IPs are switching to this method of receiving calls
instead of 900/976 with the comsumer protection rules which go along
with them. Then too, what's a PBX administrator supposed to do? He can
block 900/976, but blocking 10xxx is supposed to be illegal these days.
<grin> ... Luv the way they diddle with the parsing to make the number
appear to be some mysterious international point, don't you? PAT]
------------------------------
From: Hugh Pritchard <hpritcha@snm.com>
Subject: Baud vs. bps
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 94 9:27:50 EDT
Reading the recent flurry of submissions on home ISDN, I noticed
several people referring to the telephone "limit" of 2400 "bps," while
acknowledging that higher rates are now standard. How can this be?
Everyone here seems to understand perfectly well the situation, but
some people write loosely enough so as to lose the following
distinction:
Baud: Rate of STATE CHANGES per second. In a channel with 8
possible states, each state means 3 bits (000, 001, 010,
011, 100, 101, 110, 111). So, the bits per second would
be three times the baud rate.
bps: Bits per second.
Now, I'm willing to accept that the copper phone wires will only
handle 2400 baud, and that the modem makers have come up with ways to
signify 6 bits (14,400 is 6 times 2400) for each different state
change. The modem makers have come up with 2 to the 6th = 64
different states (some combination of frequencies, phases, and phase
changes) to fit into the 2400 baud limit.
Hugh Pritchard, Smoke N' Mirrors hugh@snm.com
------------------------------
From: rlm@helen.surfcty.com (Robert L. McMillin)
Subject: Write Congress for Public Lane on Info Highway (fwd)
Organization: Surf City Software/TBFW Project
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 13:24:22 GMT
Recently, the following appeared on gnu.announce. I am forwarding
this article as a service to TELECOM Digest readers. I will make a
rebuttal argument in a separate article.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 15:25:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: email list server <listserv@snyside.sunnyside.com>
To: cpsr-announce@sunnyside.com
Subject: WRITE CONGRESS for Public Lane on Info Highway
*** ACTION ALERT! ***
*** WRITE TO YOUR SENATORS TO SUPPORT S. 2195! ***
Help create public space in cyberspace.
Prevent the NII from becoming simply an electronic shopping mall.
An unprecendented coalition of nonprofit, educational, arts, service,
labor, civil rights, consumer, public broadcasting, religious, community,
public interest, civic, and cultural organizations are working to get
Congress to designate a public lane on the information highway.
Toward this goal, an important new bill has just been released that
would open up media and communications networks to a wide range of
information and service providers. S. 2195 would ensure that television
and other media will have democratic and diverse offerings for the
public in the next decade.
But in the face of tough odds, the coalition needs _your_ help.
* Please write to your Senators ASAP in support of S. 2195:
The National Public Telecommunications Infrastructure Act of 1994.
Included in this post: * Fact Sheet on S. 2195
* Sample Letter to Your Senators
Please distribute this information widely.
PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY LEGISLATION (S. 2195)
Senator Daniel Inouye (D-HI), Chairman of the Communications
Subcommittee of the Senate Commerce, Transportation and Science
Committee, has introduced important legislation to require the
reservation of capacity on advanced telecommunications networks for
non-commercial educational and informational services and civic
discourse.
Telecommunications infrastructure legislation is generally
believed to have the potential to transform education,
self-governance, civic discourse and artistic expression. However,
this promise will not be fulfilled unless there is a guaranteed
right-of-way for the public to share non-commercial educational,
cultural, civic and informational services. Senator Inouye's
legislation seeks to address this problem by reserving up to twenty
percent of the capacity on advanced telecommunications networks for
use by state and local governments, educational institutions, public
broadcasters, libraries and nonprofit organizations organized for the
purpose of providing public access to noncommercial, educational,
informational, cultural civic and charitable services. The legislation
is not, however, intended to cover the Internet. Nor is it intended
to cover point to point telephone communications that are not intended
for the public.
While many people contemplate that at some point in the future
there will be ample capacity on these "switched" networks so that
technological and economic barriers to access would disappear, this
bill would insure such uses in the interim. If and when adequate
capacity is available, the legislative requirement to reserve space
would be phased out or terminated. The legislation also includes a
funding mechanism to give those entities for which the capacity is
being reserved sufficient economic support to use the capacity.
Absent legislation, the telecommunications industry is
unlikely to provide adequate, affordable, non-discriminatory access to
communications networks, and could potentially control the ideas and
information we all now receive and send over computer networks.
Information technologies are already having a profound impact on the
way we communicate with each other, keep abreast of and disseminate
important information, educate ourselves, receive health care, expand
our cultural horizons, and engage in political and civic discourse.
Politicians and members of the telecommunications industry have all
recognized the potential of the "information superhighway" expand the
delivery of noncommercial educational services and contribute to a new
era of democratic self-governance and to enrich the lives of those
people that have traditionally been left out. Senator Inouye's
legislation will provide the mechanism for the information
superhighway to realize these goals.
We need to support public right-of-way legislation. We
encourage you to begin lobbying efforts by writing letters to your
Senators immediately.
----------------
SAMPLE LETTERS IN SUPPORT OF PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY BILL (S. 2195)
* Please write your Senators as soon as possible on this urgent matter.
If you can, also write Senator Inouye and Senator Hollings.
The Honorable [your senator]
___ Senate ________ Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Dear Senator ____________:
We are writing to encourage you to support the legislation (S.2195)
introduced by Senator Inouye to provide space for non-commercial uses
on the "information superhighway." We hope that you will recognize the
importance of this legislation and consider becoming a co-sponsor.
Congress must ensure that as the legal landscape for the provision of
telecommunications services changes dramatically, those organizations
committed to providing informational, educational, cultural and
charitable services to the public are not left out.
Congress has an historic opportunity to shape the nation's
communications system for the future. But the promise of economic
development, educational reform and enhanced democracy will not happen
if the new technologies are utilized principally for home shopping and
movies on demand. It is crucial that any such legislation provides
for the reservation of capacity for open, non-discriminatory use by
state and local governments, libraries, schools, public broadcasters,
and other nonprofit entities. [If applicable, please state potential
uses for your organization.]
Sincerely,
--------------
The Honorable Daniel K. Inouye
Chairman, Subcommittee on Communications,
Committee on Commerce, Science & Transportation
722 Senate Hart Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Dear Mr. Chairman:
We are writing to commend your efforts to ensure that space is
provided for non-commercial uses on the "information superhighway."
We support your proposal (S.2195) regarding the reservation of
capacity and hope that your proposal will be considered simultaneously
with the Senate's debate on the broader telecommunications reform
bill, S. 1822.
Congress has an historic opportunity to shape the nation's
communications system for the future. But the promise of economic
development, educational reform and enhanced democracy will not happen
if the new technologies are utilized principally for home shopping and
movies on demand. It is crucial that any telecommunications reform
legislation provides for the reservation of capacity for open, non-
discriminatory use by state and local governments, libraries, schools,
public broadcasters, and other nonprofit entities. [If applicable,
please state potential uses for your organization.]
Sincerely,
-----------------
The Honorable Ernest F. Hollings
Chairman Committee on Commerce, Science
and Transportation
125 Senate Russell Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Dear Mr. Chairman:
We are writing in support of legislation (S.2195) introduced by
Senator Daniel Inouye to ensure that space is provided for
non-commercial uses on the "information superhighway."
You have been a leader in telecommunications reform efforts. Senator
Inouye's important legislation would advance your objectives by
insuring that the information superhighway provides more than home
shopping and movies on demand. We hope that you will help ensure that
S.2195 is included in the current debate on telecommunications reform
and considered contemporaneously with S. 1822.
Congress has an historic opportunity to shape the nation's
communications system for the future. But the promise of economic
development, educational reform and enhanced democracy will not happen
if the new technologies are utilized principally for home shopping and
movies on demand. It is crucial that any such legislation provides
for the reservation of capacity for open, non-discriminatory use by
state and local governments, libraries, schools, public broadcasters,
and other nonprofit entities. [If applicable, please state potential
uses for your organization.]
Sincerely,
A copy of the "public space" bill (S. 2195), and other supporting
materials will be placed online shortly.
Please distribute this post widely. Thank you for your support.
Anthony E. Wright cme@access.digex.net
Coordinator, Future of Media Project Center for Media Education
--------------------------
Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility is a national membership
organization of people concerned about the impact of technology on society.
For automatic or live info email to cpsr-info@cpsr.org; you may also contact
CPSR, P.O. Box 717, Palo Alto, CA 94302, (415) 322-3778.
Your membership, participation, and support is welcome.
-- END --
--------------------------
Robert L. McMillin | rlm@helen.surfcty.com | Netcom: rlm@netcom.com
Surf City Software | Purveying superior SCSI backup/utilities for the Mac
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Robert, I think I'll be far more interested
in seeing your rebuttal than I was in reading the same tired old story
from CPSR and their allies/cronies in Our Nation's Capitol. I've an idea
you'll set things straight on the topic, as you usually do. Please send
your rebuttal soon. PAT]
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TELECOM Digest Fri, 15 Jul 94 15:49:00 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 321
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Networks Course in Berkeley (Richard Tsina)
Wireless Communications Course in Berkeley (Richard Tsina)
Caller-ID in Phoenix, AZ (Kevin W. Reed)
T1 CSU/DSU Needed (Javier Henderson - VMS System Mangler)
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From: course@garnet.berkeley.edu
Subject: Networks Course in Berkeley
Date: 15 Jul 1994 19:29:01 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
U.C. BERKELEY Continuing Education in Engineering
Announces a short course on Communication Networks:
COMMUNICATION NETWORKS: FROM FDDI TO ATM
(August 9-10, 1994)
This course provides an overview of the operating principles and
design guidelines for communication networks, and includes a
description of the popular current networks and a discussion of major
industry trends. Topics include: History and Operating Principles,
Open System Interconnection, Overview of High-Speed Networks, Physical
Layer, Switching, Trends in Data Networks (FDDI, DQDB, Frame Relay,
SMDS), Trends in Telecommunication Networks (SONET, Fiber to the home,
ISDN, Intelligent Networks, ATM) , Topological Design of Networks,
Control of ATM Networks. Comprehensive course notes will be provided.
Lecturers:
PRAVIN VARAIYA, Ph.D., Professor of Electrical Engineering and
Computer Sciences, University of California, Berkeley. At Berkeley he
works on stochastic systems, communication networks, power systems and
urban economics. He is the author of "Stochastic Systems: Estimation,
Identification, and Adaptive Control" (Prentice-Hall, 1986) and
coeditor of "Discrete Event Systems: Models and Applications"
(Springer, 1988). He is a fellow of the IEEE.
JEAN WALRAND, Ph.D., Professor of Electrical Engineering and Computer
Sciences, University of California, Berkeley. He is the author of "An
Introduction to Queuing Networks" (Prentice-Hall, 1988) and
"Communication Networks: A First Course" (Irwin/Aksen, 1991).
For more information (brochure with complete course descriptions,
outlines,instructor bios, etc.,) send your postal address to:
Richard Tsina
U.C. Berkeley Extension
Continuing Education in Engineering
2223 Fulton St. Berkeley, CA 94720
Tel: (510) 642-4151 Fax: (510) 643-8683
email: course@garnet.berkeley.edu
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From: course@garnet.berkeley.edu
Subject: Wireless Communications Course in Berkeley
Date: 15 Jul 1994 19:33:59 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
U.C. BERKELEY Continuing Education in Engineering
Announces a short course on Wireless Technology:
WIRELESS COMMUNICATION NETWORKS
(July 26-27, 1994)
There are technical bottlenecks to developing a ubiquitous
wireless multimedia environment: the capacity of the radio link, its
unreliability due to the adverse multipath propagation channel, and
severe interference from other channels.
This course covers the principles and fundamental concepts
engineers need to tackle these limitations (e.g., a thorough treatment
of channel impairments such as fading and multipath dispersion and
their effect on link and network performance). Topics include:
Introduction to Wireless Channels, Cellular Telephone Networks, Analog
and Digital Transmission and Wireless Data Networks. Comprehensive
course notes will be provided.
Lecturer: JEAN-PAUL M.G. LINNARTZ, Ph.D., Assistant Professor of
Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences, University of
California, Berkeley. His work on traffic analysis in mobile radio
networks received the Veder Prize, an innovative research in
telecommunications award in the Netherlands. At Berkeley he works on
communications for intelligent vehicle highway systems and multimedia
communications. Professor Linnartz is the author of numerous
publications and the book "Narrow Land-Mobile Radio Networks" (Artech
House, 1993), the text for the course.
For more information (brochure with complete course descriptions,
outlines, instructor bios, etc.,) send your postal address to:
Richard Tsina
U.C. Berkeley Extension
Continuing Education in Engineering
2223 Fulton St. Berkeley, CA 94720
Tel: (510) 642-4151 Fax: (510) 643-8683
email: course@garnet.berkeley.edu
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From: kreed@libre.com (Kevin W. Reed)
Subject: Caller-ID in Phoenix, AZ
Date: 15 Jul 1994 12:37:11 -0700
Organization: Evergreen Communications
We are covered by US West here in Phoenix and recently, I hooked up
two lines for Caller-ID. One voice line and and one of my data lines.
I noticed pretty quickly that the only Caller-ID information that we
were getting was from the Metropolitan Phoenix area only with everything
else coming in as "OUT-OF-AREA".
I thought this was a bit strange as others (in other States) have
mentioned that they obtain Caller-ID information from other areas of
the country on their units.
So, I called US West to ask why we don't get Caller-ID information
from other areas like users in other states do.
First I was told it was because they were un-tarriffed to get such
information, then they said it was up to the long distance carrier to
provide such information and the reason why we don't get it is because
the callers are using a carrier that doesn't provide that information.
This is seems a bit weird because I get close to 60-70 calls a day
from all parts of the country and have never gotten a single out of
state number on the Caller-ID unit. I'm sure that there are many
different carriers being used and the callers are calling from all
over the US.
Anyone have an idea as to what is really going on here? Further
attempts at clarification of this with US West has ended up going
nowhere.
Kevin W. Reed (kreed) TELESYS DEVELOPMENT SYSTEMS (TNET.COM)
kreed@libre.com | kreed@TNET.COM 2359 W De Palma Ave, Mesa AZ 85202
System Administrator / Unix BBS Developer BBS/UUCP/DATA 602-649-9099
------------------------------
From: Javier Henderson - VMS System Mangler <henderson@mln.com>
Subject: T1 CSU/DSU Needed
Date: 14 Jul 94 09:47:12 PDT
Organization: Medical Laboratory Network; Ventura, CA
Hello,
I need to rent, borrow, lease, temporarily steal, or otherwise get the
use of a couple of T1 capable CSU/DSU's for about two months.
Any ideas? I haven't found any equipment rental houses that carry such
equipment (there seem to be a lot of laptops and fax machines
available for rent, though). Pac Bell has some that they'll gladly let
me lease for a price higher than two brand new units.
Thanks.
Javier Henderson (JH21) henderson@mln.com
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From: M. L. Huang <rin0mxw@bumed30.med.navy.mil>
Subject: Information Sought on SMR (Mobile Radio) and PCP (Pager)
Reply-To: <rin0mxw@bumed30.med.navy.mil>
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:50:15 GMT
Hi, all:
I'm looking into the industries of SMR (specialized mobile radio)
and PCP (personal carrier paging) for investment purposes. I'd
appreciate any information on the following:
1) How do they work? tower setup, transmission, user subscription,
etc.
2) Potential applications of SMR and PCP in information superhighway?
Future of the market?
Thanks in advance!
Mark L. Huang, Ph.D. E-mail: rin0mxw@bumed30.med.navy.mil
Naval Medical Research Institute Code 61, 8901 Wisconsin Ave.
Bethesda, MD 20889-5607 U. S. A. Voice: (301) 295-1122 Fax: -6857
Immune Cell Biology Program
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From: rlm@helen.surfcty.com (Robert L. McMillin)
Subject: Write Congress for Public Lane on Info Highway: a Rebuttal
Organization: Surf City Software/TBFW Project
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 10:00:36 GMT
In the prior article, the Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility
issue a request to write your senator and vote in favor of S. 2195,
which "would ensure that television and other media will have
democratic and diverse offerings for the public in the next decade."
It is not certain *what* this S. 2195 actually contains, but it is
certain that the CPSR believes that "adequate, affordable,
non-discriminatory access to communications networks" cannot happen
without federal legislation. This position seems to flow from the
idea that broadband digital networks will function in the same way
that cable and broadcast networks operate today: a firehose of useless
information shot into your home daily.
But such is not the case. What surprises me is CPSR's fundamental mis-
reading of the technology. Cable and broadcast outlets are sedentary,
one-way mediums. High speed many-to-many data networks -- of which,
the Internet is the forerunner -- will be interactive and two-way, and
will demand a very different view of content.
On the Internet, everyone may be a provider of text, audio, graphics,
and even (currently, in a limited way) motion pictures. Therefore,
the necessity of dictating content of the medium is irrelevant. In
fact, if the struggle to get California's legislative site
(leginfo.public.ca.gov) online is any indicator, getting substantive
government content on the *Internet* will prove a significant
challenge: sunlight and politics don't mix. It would be a welcome
change to see bills pending before the Congress available for
gophering, anonymous FTP, or Web access. (As it currently stands,
this information is all available -- on reel tape -- offline -- for a
price.)
So why, then, the demand for "up to twenty percent of capacity" of
future broadband networks? Should we pass a law demanding that the
various *.politics groups published on Usenet constitute 20% of
Internet traffic? No? Why not?
But if this bill were simply absurd without ill side effects, it
*would* be laughable. However, this proposal spawns some rather dark
and contrary side effects. For one thing, it's likely to scare off
the large capital formation needed to build an infobahn. Futurist
George Gilder has observed that the government does not want people to
make money with the Infobahn. Unfortunately, if people do not get
rich building it, it won't get built -- it's that simple. And the
government hasn't the money to spend, a fact for which we can be
grateful.
Another thing: this will drive up prices. Do we demand that the
airlines reserve 20% of their seats for flights by non-paying
government functionaries? If we did, what would happen to the price
of YOUR ticket? Would there be a Southwest Airlines? Or would the
clubby-with-the-government-regulators, full-service airlines dominate?
There is enough in this bill to damn its passage. It seems founded in
ignorance, well-meaning though it may be. But if you care about
whether you get that high-speed pipe into your house before the year
2000, I'd recommend you write your Senator and have him vote no on S.
2195.
Robert L. McMillin | rlm@helen.surfcty.com | Netcom: rlm@netcom.com
Surf City Software | Purveying superior SCSI backup/utilities for the Mac
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Indeed Robert, my feelings are much the
same as yours. Like yourself, I strongly recommend a NO vote on S.2195
and urge TELECOM Digest readers to let their representatives in Congress
know their feelings. You said it as well as myself or better perhaps, so
no further editorial comment from me needed. In addition to letting your
representative in Congress know how you feel, and why a NO vote is very
important, readers may want to correspond with the CPSR and let them know
the same thing. PAT]
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 94 16:31:02 EDT
From: kris@cris.com (Kristine Loosley)
Subject: CRC and AT&T Provide BBS Network Access
CONTACTS: CONCENTRIC RESEARCH
KRISTINE LOOSLEY (517) 895-0500
E-MAIL: KLOOSLEY@CRIS.COM
AT&T
CAROLYN TOMMIE (908) 221-8541
CRC AND AT&T TEAM UP TO PROVIDE EASY ACCESS TO NATIONWIDE ELECTRONIC
BULLETIN BOARD NETWORK
JULY 11, 1994. BAY CITY, MICH. - Concentric Research Corp. (CRC) and
AT&T are combining the attributes of two services that will enable
subscribers to gain access to hundreds of electronic bulletin boards
(BBSs) through the convenience of a nationwide seven-digit toll-free
number.
The new service is called BBS Direct. It combines the innovative
dial-up data access of AT&T's InterSpan Information Access Service
with CRC's high-speed CRIS network. CRIS is an on-line information
and entertainment wide-area network of commercial information
providers and BBSs throughout the country. CRIS also has full
Internet connectivity.
"BBS Direct gives information providers a way to make their service
more accessible and valuable to subscribers," said Marc
Collins-Rector, chief executive officer for CRC. "Subscribers will
prefer the cost savings and ease of reaching their favorite BBS from
their laptop or personal computer via AT&T's nationwide toll-free
number. Therefore, both the information providers and the subscribers
will benefit from BBS Direct."
The leading-edge service also gives reciprocal access between the 13.5
million subscribers of more than 60,000 BBSs and more than 20 million
users of the Internet.
"Until now, subscribers have not had low-cost, local dial-up access to
their special interest computer bulletin boards," said Kent Mathy,
AT&T National Sales Director, Data Communications Services. "We are
pleased to be involved with CRC in providing BBS Direct because it
strongly supports our desire to provide customers the best communication
service anytime, anywhere." BBS Direct will reside on a dial-up frame
relay network with more than 350 points of presence throughout the
United States.
Initially, BBS Direct will run at data rates up to 14.4 kilobits per
second, increasing to 28.8 Kbps in the third quarter of 1994.
Concentric Research Corp. headquarters is at 400 41st Street,
Bay City, Mich., 48708. For customer information please call
1-800-745-2747.
AT&T InterSpan Information Access is an enhanced public-switched
data service accessible to customers via a nationwide seven-digit
toll-free number. For customer information please call 1-800-248-3632.
------------------------------
From: Jim Burks <jburks@promus.com>
Subject: Re: Bridge vs. Router Performance
Date: 15 Jul 1994 14:33:50 GMT
Organization: The Promus Companies, Inc.
In article <telecom14.317.1@eecs.nwu.edu>, sthomas@mitchell.hac.com
(Scott D. Thomas) says:
> I have a puzzeling (at least to me) situation. We have a simple
> network with a satellite link included. Orginally, we bridged three
> ethernet segments as shown below:
> ( ---- )
> host bridge----sat. ---- /\ /\ ----sat.---bridge
bridge---DSU
> | | modem modem | | |
> ------------ --------- |
> |
> T1 |
> |
> |
> host
bridge---DSU
> | |
> -------------
> (BTW, for those of you wondering, we could not connect the DSU
> directly to the satellite modem because of signalling issues.)
> We tested the above configuration, and got poorer that expected
> results. We decided to replace the bridges with routers, one per
> segment. The throughput was tripled!
> I was under the impression that bridges were more efficient because of
> lower overhead, less complexity, etc. and therefore would offer the
> better performance.
If you're using the link for LAN-type stuff, you'll find that performace
suffers, while total utilization on the satellite link is low.
The problem is that LAN activity (file sharing, MS Mail, etc.) sends a
request for a relatively small packet to be returned (~1kb), and waits
for a response before sending the next request. This is the opposite
of a streaming protocol (such as TCP/IP FTP) that streams data without
waiting for an acknoledgement until a specified window is reached.
Depending on the configuration of the bridges, and software and
network use of them, they can be more efficient on a point-to-point
link, but may pass more broadcast packets between the networks than
necessary.
Jim Burks jburks@promus.com
Database Administrator / Systems Engineer
The Promus Companies, Inc. Memphis, TN USA
http://stargate.promus.com/public/jbb.html
------------------------------
From: sdaggett@netrix.com (Steve Daggett)
Subject: Re: Bridge vs. Router Performance
Organization: NETRIX Corporation
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 16:47:35 GMT
In article <telecom14.317.1@eecs.nwu.edu> sthomas@mitchell.hac.com
(Scott D. Thomas) saids:
> I have a puzzeling (at least to me) situation. We have a simple
> network with a satellite link included. Orginally, we bridged three
> ethernet segments as shown below:
Actually this is not a "simple network". Depending on the protocol
running on the LAN & WAN segments, the type of data, and the total
usage of each segment of the network things could get pretty strange.
> ( ---- )
> host bridge---sat.---/\ /\ ---sat.---bridge bridge--DSU
> | | modem modem | | |
> ------------ ---------- |
> *Segment #1* *Segment #2* |
> T1 |
> |
> host bridge---DSU
> | |
> -------------
> *Segment #2*
>
> (BTW, for those of you wondering, we could not connect the DSU
> directly to the satellite modem because of signalling issues.)
> We tested the above configuration, and got poorer that expected
> results. We decided to replace the bridges with routers, one per
> segment. The throughput was tripled!
You didn't include the speeds for each of the WAN segments but I'll
assume that the big bottleneck is the satellite hop. You will pick up
about 750 ms delay for every hop over a satellite shot. The delay does
nasty things to protocols like X.25 & TCP that are expecting a
acknowledgment from the far end that the data was transmitted without
error.
You may also have exceeded the capacity of your WAN segments to carry
data. When you exceed the capacity of the WAN your data will begin to
buffer up and increase the delay in the network. You can also
experience a condition called "thrash" were your data buffering up
causes retransmit timers to pop. The datagrams caught up in the
congestions are retransmitted causing even more congestion in the
network.
There are techniques for setting timers, frame sizes, and window size
to combat the delay and increase throughput on the WAN.
When the entire network was being bridged all datagrams on all
segments were transmitted to every segment in the network. Therefore
heavy usage between workstations on segment #3 could cause network
congestion between segment #1 and #2.
When you reconfigured to a routed network only those datagrams that
are addressed to a workstation on another segment are actually passed
on the WAN segments. Your traffic is now probably within the capacity
of the WAN segments to carry data and therefore you don't experience
the buffer or network delay.
> I was under the impression that bridges were more efficient because
> of lower overhead, less complexity, etc. and therefore would offer
> the better performance.
In some cases bridges offer better performance. Sometimes they are
murder on the network.
If segment #1 was an engineering office running high power
workstations and passing gigabytes of data between stations then a
bridged configuration won't work. If the entire network is an IPX
network with light traffic between users and NOVELL mail servers then
a bridged configuration might work.
As with most things in communications today the official answer is "
well, maybe yes ... maybe no ...".
> Does anyone have thoughts on the matter?
My personal opinion is that bridging in a WAN environment is probally
a bad idea. It's better to go with the routed configuration.
I be out of the office next week so I won't be able to respond to any
follow up posts. I hope this helps to clear things up a little.
Steve Daggett sdaggett@netrix.com Herndon, VA
------------------------------
From: alan.dahl@mccaw.com (Alan Dahl)
Subject: Re: Apartment Complex is Getting its Own Phone Company
Date: 14 Jul 1994 20:37:10 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
In article <telecom14.316.8@eecs.nwu.edu> Bailbutton@aol.com writes:
> Today I received my first editions of the TELECOM Digest. I was
> somewhat puzzled by Pat Townsend's response to the query about
> alternative residential service. The comment "they all lie" seems a
> bit harsh.
PAT replies:
> Yes Jim, they were all liars. Here is the catch: Although they *did* charge
> less per minute on long distance calls, they neglected to tell you -- until
> at least in MCI's case they got sued -- that *local call charges would
> apply when calling their switch*. Remember now, in those days twenty years
> ago, calls via <S>outhern <P>acific <R>ailroad <I>nternal <N>etwork <T>eleco
> unications (hey, that's SPRINT !!) or <M>icrowave <C>ommunications (I>ncorp-
> orated were dialed as seven digit local numbers to their switch, *then*
> outbound through the switch with tone dialers, etc. There was no one plus
> or 950 or 800 access. Here in Chicago we dialed 876-0001 for the SPRINT
> switch, listened for new dial tone then dialed the ten digit long distance
> number. What this meant was we paid for a local call *whether or not the
> long distance end completed (it might have been DA/BY) the call*.
Perhaps this was a big deal in Chicago, where I gather from PAT's
reply that measured service is the norm but here in the Seattle area
where we enjoy a very large free calling area (I can call for free
from the south boarder of King County to past the north city limit of
Seattle, which is over 35 miles) Sprint was definately cheaper. I
subscribed to Sprint back in the tone-dialer days (this was 1980 or
so) and it saved me big bucks vs AT&T. Even the argument that local
phone rates would be higher for everyone (because of increased number
local calls) doesn't hold water since that just ment that Sprint and
MCI were getting the same "free ride" that AT&T got. It should also be
noted that local telephone rates were highly regulated at the time and
that there were no $3.50 "Federal Access Charge" fees either.
So Sprint definately saved *me* money even if it didn't do so for everyone.
Alan Dahl | alan.dahl@mccaw.com
Analysts International Co. | (NeXTMail OK) -or-
10655 N.E. 4th St. Suite 804 | adahl@eskimo.com
Bellevue, WA 98004 | PH: (206) 803-4496
| FAX: (206) 803-7406
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Subject: Re: Apartment Complex is Getting its Own Phone Company
From: a_rubin%dsg4.dse.beckman.com (Arthur Rubin)
Date: 14 Jul 94 16:07:18 GMT
Reply-To: a_rubin@dsg4.dse.beckman.com
In <telecom14.316.8@eecs.nwu.edu> The Editor writes:
> Yes Jim, they were all liars. Here is the catch: Although they *did* charge
> less per minute on long distance calls, they neglected to tell you -- until
> at least in MCI's case they got sued -- that *local call charges would
> apply when calling their switch*.
Well, I don't know about you, but I had unlimited local calls at the time
(1973-7?), and the call to the US SPRINT switch was local, so ...
Even that doesn't account for the fact that then, it was cheaper to
call the switch in Las Vegas, NV, to call back to San Francisco, then
it was to call directly from Pasadena, CA (near Los Angeles) to San
Francisco. But that was a regulatory bypass, and they couldn't SAY
that you could do that. (It may have been technically illegal, but,
suppose you used Sprint to call MCI's switch in Las Vegas ...)
Arthur L. Rubin: a_rubin@dsg4.dse.beckman.com (work) Beckman Instruments/Brea
216-5888@mcimail.com 70707.453@compuserve.com arubin@pro-sol.cts.com (personal)
^---- new address
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From: RANDY@MPA15AB.mv-oc.Unisys.COM
Date: 15 JUL 1994 17:33:00 GMT
Subject: Re: Forwarding 5-ESS to 1A-ESS to 5-ESS to Hunt Group - Broken
birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag Aristotelis) writes:
[ much text deleted ]
> At this point, it became apparent that due to some strange
> mutation in the switching last week, only one call was being
> allowed to forward through the number at a time ....
> He [ the level two expert ] told me that multiple-forwards (such
> as mine) wouldn't work between two identical switches ....
I suspect the real problem is that the call forward queue depth for
the line which is restricting forwarded calls became set to one. This
is an adjustable per-line switch parameter.
A few years ago, I went round and round with GTE over the same problem.
Finally, a switch tech called me and reset the queue limit to two (which
is all I needed).
Randall Gellens randy@mv-oc.unisys.com
(714) 380-6350 fax (714) 380-5912
Mail Stop MV 237 Net**2 656-6350
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TELECOM Digest Sun, 17 Jul 94 11:12:00 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 322
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
Re: Camelot on the Moon (Dave Niebuhr)
Re: Camelot on the Moon (A. Padgett Peterson)
Re: Camelot on the Moon (David Kirsch)
Re: Ringer Equivalence: How to Tell What's Too Much? (Carl Oppedahl)
Re: Call Blocking Bypass Scheme? (H. Peter Anvin)
Re: Call Blocking Bypass Scheme? (Brett Frankenberger)
Book Review: "FDDI Handbook" by Jain (Rob Slade)
Number of Cross-Connects Permissible in EIA/TIA 568? (Joseph H. Meier)
Re: Apartment Complex is Getting its Own Phone Company (Steve Waddell)
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Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 9:42:15 EDT
From: Dave Niebuhr <NIEBUHR@BNLCL6.BNL.GOV>
Subject: Re: Camelot on the Moon
I would like to add to the excellent article recently posted about the
25th anniversary of the Moon Landing on July 20, 1969.
I, being a resident of Long Island, home of the Grumman Corporation
(now Nothrup Grumman) noticed that no mention of the the lander itself
and its origin.
The lander, as a reminder, was built right here on Long Island by
Grumman and is a part of our heritage. One can even see a real
shuttle module as one drives by the Grumman Calverton Naval Test
Facility in Calverton, New York.
A later lander proved to be an extremely crucial part of space
missions a few years later when major problems were experienced by the
main module. The lander, again, came through and brought the three
astronauts safely back to earth.
Just a small note about the space vehicle.
Remember the rocks collected on the moon? Once they were made
available to the scientific community, a scientist working for my
employer was sent to retrieve our allotment. After his plane had
landed at Kennedy Airport in New York City, he was met with a
contingent of security personnel (including BNL's) and escorted to the
Lab where they were put on display for a period of time.
I didn't get to see them since I happened to be on duty when the
display hours were made available. However, my wife, two-year-old
daughter, and a lot of nieces and nephews did.
Jut a few reminisces.
I do not work for Grumman (now Northrup Grumman), nor have I ever been
employed by them at any time in the past. I am just a simple citizen
who appreciates the efforts put forward by a local company from the
Hellcats of WW2 to the present day F-14 fighter; but most important,
putting the "Man on the Moon."
BTW: Niel Armstrong, the first person to step on the moon, is now the
President (or Chairman) of AIL, Corp., a major Long Island defense
electronics company.
Dave Niebuhr Internet: dwn@dwn.ccd.bnl.gov
niebuhr@bnlcl6.bnl.gov (preferred)
niebuhr@bnl.gov / Bitnet: niebuhr@bnl
Senior Technical Specialist, Scientific Computing Facility
Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton, NY 11973 1+(516) 282-3093
FAX 1+(516) 282-7688
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Date: Sun, 17 Jul 94 10:27:21 -0400
From: padgett@tccslr.dnet.mmc.com (A. Padgett Peterson)
Subject: Re: Camelot on the Moon
Though our era will probably be just a footnote in history, we have
lived in a time of momentuous change -- or are we in a rut?
Every American of our era will remember two things: the day President
Kennedy was murdered (to call it assassination is IMHO mincing words)
and the day we walked on the moon.
I was fortunate enough to see it from an NCO club in SEA, with the
hours we were on duty then it would have been easy enough to miss and
it did mark a peak of sorts.
Then most Americans still believed in things like "sound as a dollar"
and "ad aspra ad astra", we literally did not believe we had any
limits and next year would be bigger, better, faster. Then, as the
human experience tends to do, we found that we had reached the top of
a National pyramid scheme and were brought back to reality.
Our return from SEA was less than noble (possibly our presence there
in the first place was also but we had a mass notion of the "divine
right" of the USA despite the people who said it t'wasn't so.
Denied outside expansion, we turned inwards and began consuming
ourselves in a frenzy of magic money that culminated in the late
1980's with a massive recession.
I am optomistic though. We have gone through this before -- three
times just since 1850 so we may be on a natural cycle (will leave the
exact duration to those who have nothing else to do). Many things go
in natural cycles such as the weather and ozone depletion, where we
get into trouble is when we think we can change the cycles.
Personally, I think (and hope) that we are in the middle of another
dislocation that will lead to explosive growth like that which put us
on the moon. I suspect that it will be universal communications that
will do it and will change every aspect of our lives. The fact that I
am writing this while having a cup of coffee (from the in-room dispenser)
on holiday in Illinois is just one example.
Thirty five years ago we had a challenge, exhausted ourselves in
meeting it, consumed ourselves exploiting it, and performed natural
selection on the residue. The next challenge is here.
Warmly,
Padgett
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Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 17:06:40 +0500
From: dkirsch@fedeast.East.Sun.COM (David Kirsch - SunNetworks Manager)
Subject: Re: Camelot on the Moon!
That was really beautiful. I really want to thank you for that ...
Cheers,
David K.
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Your note is being selected from several
dozen which have arrived over the weekend regards the Camelot article.
Don Kimberlin is the person to be thanked; it was his article -- and his
offer to have it printed here -- which sparked the special mailing. How
ironic and interesting it is that today -- the 25th anniversary -- also
marks another notable event in space history: the comet which crashed into
Jupiter over the weekend, and which we are told will continue to break
up with bits of it hitting Jupiter over the next several days. Did anyone
get to watch the explosion? It was too cloudy here to get a very good
picture of it but I understand the people at the South Pole got *excellent*
views of the whole thing, namely because Jupiter is always within their
viewing range. Interesting timing isn't it ... exactly a quarter-century
later. How long have we known about the Jupiter incident? Seems to me at
least a few years ago they had the date for it established. PAT]
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From: oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl)
Subject: Re: Ringer Equivalence: How to Tell What's Too Much?
Date: 16 Jul 1994 16:02:58 -0400
Organization: Oppedahl & Larson
In <telecom14.320.10@eecs.nwu.edu> sullivan@geom.umn.edu writes:
[stuff omitted]
> I figured I now have too much stuff connected to my phone line. I
> looked at the bottom of all the equipment for ringer equivalence
> numbers. Two phones at 0.4A, 0.9A; a cordless phone at 0.2B; an ATT
> UnixPC at 0.5A and an external modem at 1.0B; the new caller ID box at
> 0.1B; and the answering machine, marked "0.2A, 0.5B".
> I called US West.
[report of US West being clueless as to what RENs are, how many you
can have, what the A and B mean]
> OK, so enough story telling. My questions are:
> What is the difference between "A" and "B". Are they different units?
> (Amps and Bells??) How do I add up those numbers, and how much should
> I be able to have on my line? Is it possible that at different times
> of day (under different loads) the phone line will actually provide
> different amounts of power for the ring, thus explaining the intermittency
> of the problem?
All your answers are in The Phone Book, ISBN 0-89043-364-X, Consumer
Reports Books. At pages 270-272, it says (summarizing) that you add
them up, and see how it compares with what the telco will support.
Your numbers seem to add up to about 3.7 or so. Most central offices
support about 5. Thus you should be okay.
If you were provided your dial tone by pair-gain equipment such as
SLICs, you might get less than 5. Or, if you have an exceedingly long
loop to the central office. Then again, some central office equipment
does not provide the usual 5. Yet another problem could be an
intermittent bad connection between you and the central office, which
might act up most severely when the phone is ringing. Or in your
inside telephone wiring.
Then again your problem could be a defective telephone instrument that
uses up more ringing current than it should.
The A means that at two specified frequencies (20 and 30 Hz) the
telephone draws no more than the specified amount of ringing current.
The B means that over an entire range (15.3 to 68 Hz) the telephone
draws no more than the specified current level.
The B number is thus generally the same as or higher than the A number.
If your ringing frequency is 20 or 30 Hz (ask your telco) then you can
add up the A numbers to see if you exceed the permitted total.
Otherwise you would have to add up the B numbers.
On many phones, if you switch off the ringer then it draws no ringing
current; it is thus a 0A 0B REN device.
Part 68 of the FCC rules obligates telcos to give straight answers to
people who want to know the maximum permitted REN on their line.
(The book is at your local bookstore, or call 1-800-272-0722.)
Carl Oppedahl AA2KW Oppedahl & Larson (patent lawyers)
Yorktown Heights, NY oppedahl@patents.com
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well , there goes Carl again with another
blantant attempt to commercialize the net with a mention of his book! <grin>.
Seriously John (and others), get it and read it. Its excellent. PAT]
------------------------------
From: hpa@eecs.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
Subject: Re: Call Blocking Bypass Scheme?
Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
Organization: United Federation of Planets
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 17:42:05 GMT
kravitz@foxtail.com (Jody Kravitz) wrote:
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, here is a guy who has cut a deal
> with long distance carrier 10658 -- whoever that is -- to intercept his
> calls and deliver them at the agreed upon price. His true number is
> 4xx-xxA-VAMP, but try one plus dialing it via the carrier of your choice
> and see what happens: he'll answer it with an answering machine telling
> you he does not accept calls which have not been routed via 10658, and
> to please hang up and dial according to instructions given. When you then
> dial it again zero-plus via 10658 that carrier sees the call and intercepts
> it. They then route it over T-1 or something similar and deliver it to the
> customer bypassing the local telco in area code 4xx. *He accepts those
> calls*, but not the ones that come on his regular 4xx-xxA-VAMP line via
> local telco.
Uuuuh, Pat ... if that xxxx is what the initial poster seems to imply
(presumably 3825 or something similar) then there is no area code 4xx.
If xxxx spells *anything* there is no area code 4xx (yet). It looks
like the 10658 carrier makes up numbers. Maybe the initial poster
would like to clarify if xxxx did start with 0/1 or if it was indeed a
four-letter word.
hpa
INTERNET: hpa@nwu.edu FINGER/TALK: hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu
IBM MAIL: I0050052 at IBMMAIL HAM RADIO: N9ITP or SM4TKN
FIDONET: 1:115/511 or 1:115/512 STORMNET: 181:294/101 Allah-u-abha
#include <stdquote.h>
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think he said he was putting the 'x' there
only to avoid promoting the service, not that it necessarily spelled
anything. The only spelled out word was the last one. PAT]
------------------------------
From: brettf@netcom.com (Brett Frankenberger)
Subject: Re: Call Blocking Bypass Scheme?
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 20:52:05 GMT
> with long distance carrier 10658 -- whoever that is -- to intercept his
> calls and deliver them at the agreed upon price. His true number is
> 4xx-xxA-VAMP, but try one plus dialing it via the carrier of your choice
> and see what happens: he'll answer it with an answering machine telling
> you he does not accept calls which have not been routed via 10658, and
> to please hang up and dial according to instructions given. When you then
> dial it again zero-plus via 10658 that carrier sees the call and intercepts
> it. They then route it over T-1 or something similar and deliver it to the
> customer bypassing the local telco in area code 4xx. *He accepts those
> calls*, but not the ones that come on his regular 4xx-xxA-VAMP line via
> local telco. AT&T has a few similar arrangements going with 'information'
> providers -- well they provide something, anyway -- where the call is
> forced via AT&T and the IP gets a piece of the action. When mother and
> dad complain to the local telco about the call their son made in the middle
> of the night to that number and the charge on their bill for a hundred
> dollars, telco will refer them to the customer service number for the
> carrier ... "they are the only ones who can issue credit ...". Mom and dad
> will call, the rep will twist their arm and make them pay, possibly by
> agreeing to a 'one time goodwill credit of half the bill'.
Although in the case of AT&T, they don't charge extra for the call.
That is, if the info provider has a 801-555-xxxx number and you call
it, you get charged the same as you would for any call to 801-555-xxxx
that was handled by AT&T ... whatever discount plans you have still
apply, etc.
(Note that 10658 does charge extra ... but who knows ...)
> It may very well be that the folks at Integratel act as billing/collection
> agents for carrier 10658, in which case if mom and dad want, they can
> have their number(s) added to Integratel's negative listing database
> so it won't happen again.
Would it work? Would Integratel's database apply to standard direct-dialed
LD calls placed through a carrier that Integratel bills for?
> Lots of IPs are switching to this method of receiving calls
> instead of 900/976 with the comsumer protection rules which go along
> with them. Then too, what's a PBX administrator supposed to do? He can
> block 900/976, but blocking 10xxx is supposed to be illegal these days.
Well a private PBX administrator (at a place of business) cal block
and route calls as he pleases ... Does a motel have to allow
10XXX-1-XXX-XXX-XXXX? I thought the only thing they had to allow was
10XXX-0-XXX-XXX-XXXX.
> <grin> ... Luv the way they diddle with the parsing to make the number
> appear to be some mysterious international point, don't you? PAT]
I wonder how often that works ... obviously it had no effect on you or
I or the poster of the original message ... most TELECOM Digest
readers probably would figure it out ... nad many people who can't
figure it out would probably still not get it even if the hyphens were
placed at the traditional places ...
Brett (brettf@netcom.com)
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 18:11:29 MDT
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "FDDI Handbook" by Jain
BKFDDIHB.RVW 940422
Addison-Wesley Publishing Company
P.O. Box 520 26 Prince Andrew Place
Don Mills, Ontario M3C 2T8
416-447-5101 fax: 416-443-0948
Heather Rignanesi, Marketing, x340, 73171.657@Compuserve.com
or
Tiffany Moore, Publicity tiffanym@aw.com
Bob Donegon bobd@aw.com
John Wait, Editor, Corporate and Professional Publishing johnw@aw.com
Tom Stone, Editor, Higher Education Division tomsto@aw.com
Philip Sutherland, Schulman Series 74640.2405@compuserve.com
Keith Wollman, Trade Computer Group keithw@aw.com
Lisa Roth Blackman, Trade Computer Group lisaro@aw.com
1 Jacob Way
Reading, MA 01867-9984
800-822-6339 617-944-3700
Fax: (617) 944-7273
5851 Guion Road
Indianapolis, IN 46254
800-447-2226
"FDDI Handbook", Jain, 1994, 0-201-56376-2, U$49.50
jain@acm.org
"Radio waves" are electromagnetic distortions travelling through the
"ether" (basically, nothing) or wires. Radio can be modulated or
encoded to carry information. Light is electromagnetic radiation as
well, but of a higher frequency. Because of the higher frequency,
light can be used to carry much more information than radio. There
are only two problems: light is unsuitable for broadcasts because of
very high power requirements; and, light can't travel over wires.
Light travels in straight lines. At least, that is what everyone knew
until the nineteenth century, when it was observed that light would
follow the path of a curving stream of water. When light passes from
one medium to another, there is always some reflection. However, when
light comes from a medium with a high index of refraction (like water)
to a boundary with a lower index of refraction (like air) there can be
what is known as total internal reflection. (Try looking through the
side of an aquarium and out the top. Can't be done.) This means that
a "wire" of glass with a high refractive index running through a
thicker "wire" of lower refractive index will carry light from end to
end, in spite of curves in the fibre.
Now you know something about fibre optics. There is still an awful
lot to know about how it works in practice, what the protocols are,
how to control access to the media, how to interconnect it with copper
cables, how to manage it, how to buy and install it, and how well to
expect it to perform. Which is what this book is about.
Fibre Distributed Data Interface (FDDI) is the standard for local
fibre optic communications circuits. Jain gives a wide-ranging
coverage of related topics. The book is said to be suitable for
users, buyers, managers and designers of computer networking products.
This would be true of users, buyers and managers who were engineers.
The book is primarily technical in nature, although there are some
sections dealing with evaluation and purchasing guidelines. Jain
tries to lighten the tone with cartoons and humorous sidebars. While
cute, these do not add to explanations in the book. In common with
most technical books, there is an attempt to promote its use as a text
by the inclusion of "exercises". These are, as usual, extremely
simplistic.
Fibre has many advantages over copper. Silica is much more abundant
than copper. Fibre is lighter and can carry more data farther, with
less power expenditure. Fibre has potentially much greater bandwidth
than copper (although the recent 100 megabit per second - Mbps -
ethernet is equal to the FDDI standard). Jain is clearly on the fibre
bandwagon. He goes a little overboard at times. He repeats the
refrain that fibre is more secure since it can't be read or modified
without breaking the cable. (It can. It's hard, but it can be done.
It's interesting that this statement comes immediately after a
discussion of reliability functions which tend to make detection of a
break less certain--and opposite a sidebar on network "religious"
beliefs.) Jain also states that fibre is lighter and more flexible,
and, therefore, easier to install. This is later (much later)
contradicted by the fact that fibre cannot be fit into tight corners
(it must have a large radius of curvature to function properly) and
that fibre cable should be run through conduit inside stiff innerducts
-- thus eliminating the advantages of flexibility. (Some of Jain's
sidebars give fascinating if not quite accurate information. Carrier
Sense Multiple Access - CSMA - media access, the access method for
Ethernet, is said to have been derived from the "Aloha" or "hello"
access method. Ethernet owes some development, including CSMA, to
Alohanet, the satellite link used from the University of Hawaii to the
mainland.)
A lot of valuable technical information, but the audience scope is not
as broad as stated.
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1994 BKFDDIHB.RVW 940422. Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated newsgroups/mailing lists.
Vancouver ROBERTS@decus.ca
Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca
Research into rslade@cue.bc.ca
User p1@CyberStore.ca
Security Canada V7K 2G6
------------------------------
From: jmeier@cit.hmc.psu.edu (Joseph H. Meier)
Subject: Number of Cross-Connects Permissible in EIA/TIA 568?
Date: 16 Jul 1994 21:05:52 GMT
Organization: Penn State College of Medicine
Reply-To: jmeier@cit.hmc.psu.edu
Could someone please help clarify whether the following wiring
structure falls within the *permissible* alternatives for cabling
cross connects within the EIA/TIA 568 standard? Assume the entire
cable plant uses category 5 components and cable from end-to-end and
focus just on the *method* of installation.
Specific documentation or references would be most helpful, rather
than impressions or recollections from past readings about the
standard. I understand that the wiring structure as defined below is
NOT the *preferred* way of doing things for data. We have obtained a
copy of the 568 standard but this does not seem to clearly indicate
guidelines between optimal and minimal installations that still
satisfy the 568 specification.
The diagram below indicates (2) punchdown blocks. Both voice and data
cables from the user work area are punched down to the BLOCK#1 in the
wiring closet. Data cables are cross-connected from BLOCK#1 to
BLOCK#2, while voice cables are cross-connected to other voice-only
punchdown blocks (not of concern in this question). At BLOCK#2, data
cables are cross-connected to a RJ45 patch panel.
Permissible Wiring Structure ????
......Wiring Closet......................... ...User Work Area...
[HUB]<===>[PANEL]+==+[BLOCK#2]+===+[BLOCK#1]+===+[WALL]<===>[STATION]
Where ...
HUB = concentrator
PANEL = RJ-45 Modular Patch Panel, wired to 568A
BLOCK#1 = Telco Punch Block (Voice + Data)
BLOCK#2 = Telco Punch Block (Data)
WALL = User area wall face plate
STATION = User workstation network adapter
=====> = RJ-45 connector
=====+ = Punch down termination connection
NOTE: Entire cable plant uses Category 5 Cable
(for both Voice & Data applications)
Any leads are welcome.
Please respond directly to me at the email address below.
Thanks again,
Joe Meier Penn State College of Medicine
Hershey Medical Center jmeier@cit.hmc.psu.edu
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From: waddell@iglou.iglou.com (Steve Waddell)
Subject: Re: Apartment Complex is Getting its Own Phone Company
Organization: The Internet Gateway of Louisville, KY
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 01:47:01 GMT
I found Pat's response about MCI rather harsh. Although regretfully
true in his case. [How do you tell if a salesman is lying? Is his
mouth moving?] Keep in mind that those of us in "the boonies" never
have, and still do not pay anything for local calls. Not to say that
MCI didn't lie in Chicago or Louisville. They probably lied about
something else here.
I second the words of caution about third party telcos (RelCom did
they say?). But I have has a good experience with one. They were
providing service through Centrex, and saved money by shared trunking.
After some pain and adjustment at first, there was very little problem.
Trunking was a problem only one time when there was spectactular
accident right out front at dinnertime, and *everyone* tried to call
911. Several got through, rest were blocked. Each user had carrier
choice, but they had a sweetheart deal with a reseller that was pretty
good. 10XXX dialing did work. And presumably ISDN would be available
if it had been available at all. It is now available for Centrex
here.
So check it out *very* carefully, but keep an open mind. If you are
forced to use RelCom, and you don't want to, I would think that you
would have valid grounds to break a lease. "Arbitrary Changes to the
Leasehold" or something like that. But who wants to move.
Steve :^>
waddell@iglou.com 10307 St. Rene Rd. voice 502-266-5695
Louisville, KY 40299-4040
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From: bill@LIFESCI.UCLA.EDU (William M. Eldridge)
Subject: Re: Camelot on the Moon
Date: 17 Jul 1994 11:35:04 -0700
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program
I find the moon landing interesting for several reasons. On the
personal level, it came when I had just turned eight years old in the
middle of a family tour of the west - my grandfather, my mom and all
my aunts, my two brothers, and about seven or eight cousins, riding in
trains and buses from Chicago out through Denver to San Francisco,
down to LA and over to Las Vegas and up through the canyonlands.
The landing came while we were in Vegas, an extremely hot summer's
day, and we were packed in a hotel lobby with a mob of other people
watching the landing. I was from Huntsville, Alabama, a town that had
grown from 13,000 in the early 50's to about 130,000 in the mid-60's,
mostly because the Redstone missile range there had been deemed a good
spot for one of NASA's main centers, so engineers from around the
country had steadily been relocated there, creating an odd technical
Yankee oasis in the middle of a fairly backwards and rural area, as
well as holding a large German population from Werner von Braun's V-2
rocket group that had been whisked out of Germany by the Allies after
the war.
I knew nothing of this at the time. I just knew that Peter von Braun
and Martin Dahm and other kids were in my kindergarten class, and all
their fathers spoke with funny accents. Our toys were a large
percentage model rockets and jet fighters and miniature scale Saturn
V's and lunar modules. I had met Michael Collins a few years before
when he dropped by the house for something. Our schools were named
after the three astronauts who had burned up. If I had grown up in
Hollywood or New York or D.C., I would have images of actors or
financiers or politicians, but instead I was growing up in the NASA
bubble.
I don't know that I remember the image on TV. I remember the hotel
room, and the feeling of "the event". It was something important not
just to me, but to the world, and I understood it. The year before
had been Robert Kennedy's assassination and the elections, and I knew
those were important, and also there was the war, but these things
were too complicated. Men walking on the moon was something basic,
something that could cut through an eight-year-old's foggy conception
of the world and say "this is real, this is obvious, this is important."
It was a breakpoint for my childhood.
------------------------------
On another level, I think the landing was another event that spoiled
us -- something that was so easy to define as "good", just as defeating
the Nazis was "good". It's so refreshing to have an unqualified
victory, some untainted goal achieved. There aren't a lot of these.
Sure, we make technical progress, and we invent the lightbulb and the
semiconductor and the computer, but they're not the same kinds of
time-stamped events, moments of history and breakthrough and relief.
For two of these, the mobilization and victory in WWII and the landing
on the moon, to take place within 25 years of each other, is
incredible. The fall of the Eastern Bloc was a little too undefined
and left too many uncertainties -- like the loss of American jobs and
the recession and the lingering confusion and slow movement towards
democracy in Eastern Europe and Russia and then the wars in Iraq and
Yugoslavia to kill any image of a new era of peace -- to be an
unqualified breakpoint. And that's probably something that unsettles
us, both Americans and possibly other countries and cultures as well.
Pure victories are so much more satisfying.
The progress in telecommunications is astounding. The potential to
change our lives is as great as the spread of electricity, and the
forces massing behind this movement are amazing. But it's
complicated, not just in the ways the moon launch was complicated --
logistics problems in combining millions of different technologies to
work together in just the right way at just the right time - but also
as a goal. Are we linking up the third world? Are we bringing video
into the home? Are we setting up pocket telephone service around the
globe? Are we doing home shopping, or automating the office, or
perfecting video games for kids? We're doing all of these, and other
things as well, and they're all good stuff, but they don't tend to
bring the unmitigated pleasure that we got knowing "we threw some poor
schmoe in a little tin can, slung him across space to dance on that
shiny rock over there, and brought him back." It's the simple goals
that pool our strengths, while the more complicated ones disperse our
energies. Like the revolutionaries who cooperate well in overthrowing
the government, but fall apart when they have to cooperate to build a
new one.
I read an interview with Ken Kesey one time, in which he asked the
rhetorical question, "What does Superman do between phone booths?"
The question has stuck with me ever since. We can't go out and rescue
Lois Lane every day, so we do something worthwhile in the meantime,
something that builds to its own level of success. It feels easy to
look back nostalgically at the 60's and say, "My, we had it together
back then, why are we doing so poorly now?" The answer is, we're not.
We just have a new set of problems to deal with, and we don't have any
huge obvious goals ahead of us, though we certainly have a whole lot
of good smaller ones. We can make up new ones, like going to Mars,
but it's not the same thing, and it would be more contrived, more of
an "Honorable Mention" than a Gold Medal. Maybe we'll get lucky and
something wonderfully satisfying will pop up soon to spark the human
psyche for another 25 years. But if not, we'll just have to keep
ourselves going enjoying the normal sedentary pleasures on planet
earth.
Bill Eldridge bill@lifesci.ucla.edu
310-206-3960 310-206-3987 (fax)
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Your foggy recollections are like those
of mine from the early 1950's during the ruckus with Senator Joe McCarthy
of Wisconsin and the infamous "Army/McCarthy Hearings". The Army/McCarthy
thing went on for six weeks or so in the summer of, I guess 1950 or 1951
and that's all they had on television all day long on all the channels
for the whole summer. No matter what station you turned on you got that
congressional investigation from about 9:00 AM until 4:00 PM or so, and
sometimes later in the evening. Odd man, that Senator McCarthy. I only
have vague recollections of it all from what I saw on television when I
was eight years old, but I recall how excited and interested all the
grownup people were about what was going on. So I empathize with you and
other readers in their early to middle thirties where the moon walk is
concerned. You sort of remember it, yet not really very well.
Like you point out, I too remember the 1950-63 period with great fondness
and often times have wondered how things could have been so good back
then and gone so sour by now. Maybe they haven't gone sour. Maybe as you
point out its just a whole new set of problems. I know for myself I often
times feel I am stuck in an earlier generation. PAT]
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From: robjan@rabo.nl (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: Camelot on the Moon
Date: 18 Jul 1994 12:36:48 +0100
Organization: Rabobank Nederland
In <94.07.15.4339gh@eecs.nwu.edu> TELECOM Moderator <telecom@eecs.nwu.
edu> writes:
[very nice story about the datacomm involved with the trip to the moon]
> Early in the lunar project, the decision was taken to combine
> all communications between the lunar module and earth into one 48
> kilobit multiplexed digital signal of video, speech communications,
> spacecraft telemetry and biomedical data using 2 gigahertz radio.
How did they get all that into one 48 kilobit stream? I would think
even without the video it requires compression to do so, and even with
the poor-quality video that was sent with the first mission one would
require more bandwidth than that unless the video was compressed as
well. Does this mean that technology comparable to MPEG was already
available for use in such a project in 1969?
How about the later missions, which had better picture quality. Was
the datarate increased by that time?
Rob
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 12:26:00 CDT
From: David Devereaux-Weber <weberdd@clover.macc.wisc.edu>
Reply-To: weberdd@doit.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: Camelot on the Moon
What a fantistic look behind the scenes! Thanks to TELECOM Digest and
Mr. Kimberlin.
That night, I was working at radio station WCLO in Janesville,
Wisconsin. WCLO was an AM station with 1000 watts day, 250 watts
night. I was a "student engineer"; I played records and taped
announcements and commercials. I had just graduated from high school
the previous month. We didn't have a television at the station. At
that time, the station had recently subscribed to United Press
International, and our contract with the Associated Press had not
expired, so we had working teletypes from both services. That was the
only time I ever saw the wire services type their stories onto the
network live -- you could tell because the keys were not clicking by at
the maximum 66 baud, but with the stop-and start cadence of someone
composing and typing at the same time.
There were bulletins for many of the events, such as the seperation of
the LEM from the Command Module, the descent, landing, the hatch is
open, Aldrin's foot is on the ladder, Aldrin is on the last step,
Aldrin's foot is on the moon, and so on.
On the air, we carried coverage live from the Mutual Radio Network.
As usual, there was no local news after 6:00 or so. After the live
coverage ended, we went back to easy listening music and taped
announcements until sign off at around 11:00 PM. That Sunday night at
midnight, the drive home was unusual, because the town was as quiet as
usual. There was no evidence of the events that had taken place, or
the changes which were happening to the world around us.
David Devereaux-Weber, P.E. weberdd@doit.wisc.edu (Internet)
The University of Wisconsin - Madison (608)262-3584 (voice)
Division of Information Technology (608)262-4679 (FAX)
Network Engineering
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From: alan.dahl@mccaw.com (Alan Dahl)
Subject: Re: Camelot on the Moon
Date: 18 Jul 1994 17:52:40 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
In article <94.07.15.4339gh@eecs.nwu.edu> TELECOM Moderator <telecom@eecs.
nwu.edu> writes:
> A quarter century ago this weekend ... Sunday night, July 20, 1969 --
> A whole bunch you were not even born then; others of you were but little
> tykes who would not remember the occassion. But to those of us over about
> thirty years of age ... wow! The image is burned in our minds forever.
Indeed it is.
"Donald E. Kimberlin" <0004133373@mcimail.com> writes:
> Standing there in my bathrobe, I recognized the familiar face
> and sonorous tones of Walter Cronkite coming from the TV set at some
> time around 3 AM in Madrid. He was padding for time and filling in
> between messages from NASA about the astronauts preparing to open the
> hatch and climb down the ladder. Then he said some words that cut
> into me a bit.
> He talked about the heroic effort of satellite engineers to
> get video for broadcast in Europe. They had uplinked from Australia,
> which had normal connectivity from the U.S., onto the Indian Ocean
> satellite. From there, the video was downlinked into the
> Bundespostes earth station at Raisting, Germany. Raisting had swung
> an 85 foot dish around to receive from the Indian Ocean satellite. He
> went on at length about how Raisting was feeding the whole of Europe's
> terrestrial television networks, instead of the usual routes via the
> failed Atlantic satellite. Someone else had been busy getting video
> channels rerouted, too.
> But it seemed nobody, not even Cronkite, knew what a fragile,
> last-minute thread was carrying the NASA color video and sound we were
> all observing from the moon back down through Robledo, splitting it
> into a dozen submarine cable channels across the Atlantic to
> Greenbelt, Houston and ultimately back to him at CBS before it got out
> to the world!
In July, 1969 I was ten years old and in the middle of a six-week trip
to Europe with my parents and brother. July 20th found us in the Hotel
Dubrovnik in Dubrovnik, Yugoslavia. I remember staying up late on the
night of the 20th and into the early morning of the 21st watching the
moon landing on Yugoslavian TV. I hardly heard a word the astronauts
were saying because of the Yugoslavian announcer's Serbo-Croatian
translations but I sat transfixed anyhow.
At the time I never thought it remarkable that live pictures could be
sent from the moon and relayed to every television set on Earth. Now I
know that, like the rest of the moon landing, that it was not easy as
it seemed. Only the cooperation of many people around the globe
enabled it to come about.
Now that I know what heroic efforts Mr. Kimberlin and his associates
went through to assure that people around the world (and a ten-year-old
boy from America half a globe away from home) could watch such a
historic moment on live TV I'd like to send him my heartfelt thanks.
It was a moment that I'll never forget.
P.S. I wonder what we could accomplish nowadays if we put in an effort
like Apollo again?
Alan Dahl | alan.dahl@mccaw.com
Analysts International Co. | (NeXTMail OK) -or-
10655 N.E. 4th St. Suite 804 | adahl@eskimo.com
Bellevue, WA 98004 | PH: (206) 803-4496
| FAX: (206) 803-7406
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From: Donald E. Kimberlin <0004133373@mcimail.com>
Subject: Re: Camelot on the Moon (Author's Response)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 1405 UTC
Thanks, PAT, for posting some of the responses to the personal
story I was privileged to be able to tell about how the world's
telecomm people pitched in to remove one of the final last-minute
barriers to placing Americans on the moon. Too many of us only
understand telecommunications as the one service rep we talk to, or
the wireman who shows up at our premises, or only as "deep inside" as
the switchman in the local dial network. That story for once exposes
a part of the thousands who work deep down in the bowels of the global
telecommunications network, in places most people never see -- or even
know about.
And, of course, it gets to show yet another aspect of how the
entire world really wanted "America" to succeed. As the broadcast and
print news stories now begin to appear this week, we are brought to
recall that many other events occurred in the years running up to
"Camelot on the Moon;" events we didn't want to face at the time, and
events that are ugly or even repugnant in retrospect. (I'll not name
them here, as most can do so.)
Some posit we used sending men to the moon as an "escape
mechanism," but I suspect those comments largely come from the
one-third of the population who weren't there at the time. Had they
been here to really feel the daily omnipresence of the "Cold War" and
nuclear run-up of "Mutually Assured Destruction" as an international
negotiating method, they'd understand that the Free World *needed* to
accomplish the feat. Few probably even know or recall that the
Russians darned near beat us -- that a Russian cosmonaut died when his
capsule parachute failed after an aborted mission just shortly before
the American launch. Had the Russians not suffered that setback, they
might have been first instead. The "space race" was a very close
contest, indeed.
The whole world stayed focused on that "space race," and it
wanted "America" to succeed. I believe it still wants "America" to
succeed. Padgett Peterson said it well in his published response in
Digest 322:
"Denied outside expansion, we turned inwards and began
consuming ourselves in a frenzy of magic money that
culminated in the late 1980's with a massive recession.
"... We have gone through this before -- three times just
since 1850 ..."
"... I think ... we are in the middle of another dislocation
that will lead to explosive growth ... like that which put us
on the moon. I suspect that it will be universal communications
that will do it and will change every aspect of our
lives. The fact that I am writing this while having a cup of
coffee (from the in-room dispenser) on holiday in Illinois is
just one example."
How true! We can see in the Gilder Series published here and
elsewhere the momentous moves toward "universal telecommunication"
that are shaping the future. True, money lies at the bottom of most
of it, and Gilder has already shown the ways change in handling money
is occurring. Considering that the dictionary definition of "telecommun-
ications" is not limited to electrical or electronic technology, nor
the "phone" as many commercial histories want us to focus on, one can
see that commerce and politics have benefited from innovations that
date at least to the Picts of Britain using smoke signals, with the
first momentous modern event becoming the forming of the Rothschild
dynasty by using carrier pigeons to signal Napoleon's defeat at
Waterloo. Those who did not know or would not use the Rothschilds'
"unproved technology" suffered considerable economic loss that day.
The world today still has its naysayers that lose by resisting change.
Now, a few centuries later, we see Padgett Peterson reading
and responding to electronic news in his hotel room on vacation --
something that wasn't possible even 25 years ago, even though we put
humans on the moon by then.
That tells us something about the relation between computers
and telecommunications. Bell Labs had a great deal to do with the
earliest merger of the two. History records that Stibitz accomplished
a bit of "remote computing" by having some relay logic on his kitchen
table perform a simple add function controlled over a teletype circuit
in 1939 -- just more than 50 years ago, and that only about a half
century after automatic coded transmission was developed by Baudot.
Now, look how far we've moved in 25 years to Padgett's laptop in a
hotel room!
Dave Niebuhr raised the point of collateral advances tied to
telecommunications as it appeared in the "space race," raising the
points of returning moon rock samples back to Earth for study, and the
contributions of Grumman to the carriage of humans and their life
support on that first Space Odyssey. It's almost impossible to list
all the items we all enjoy today as a result of that $24 billion
"experiment," from non-stick cookware to elastomeric fibers that
glamorize the human form. It bears value to compare what we got for
that $24 billion compared to the similar and larger heaps of billions
we drop into "government programs" these days. When will we ever
again get so much long-term improvement for an amount like that?
And, David Kirsch showed his appreciation for the
underlying "spirit of telecommunications" with a succinct line:
"That was really beautiful. I really want to thank you
for that ..."
Without verbalizing it, David showed his understanding of the
really dedicated people populating the "underworld of telecommunications,"
the "moles" as it were of that global phenomenon arising around us as
we all ply our own life cycles here.
Still, that network reaches in volume to only portions of the
globe. Connectivity to numerous nations is still a very "slender
thread." And, even in those where the international thread has been
reinforced, connectivity to locations within the country are limited -
in many cases, to the copper threads we largely relied upon just 25
years ago. Making progress in those places is still a thrilling "art
form," and, resources willing, I'll try to bring more stories of it to
the TELECOM Digest.
Regrettably, the Internet address from this rutted side road
of the Information Highway was not on the original story. I hope,
PAT, you'll post it now, and that you might be able to do the favor of
forwarding those responses you weren't able to use to it:
0004133373@mcimail.com
as I do want to acknowledge and respond to all I am able to.
(Hopefully they haven't wound up in the Digest Bit Bucket already.)
Meantime, thanks to all who did respond with their expansions
and explanations on the theme of how telecommunications has been and
continues to be so intrinsic to our forward movement, both on this
sphere and throughout uncharted space. You have flattered me with the
privilege of being able to share a portion of the story with others
around the globe. However, we have to always press forward on every
front. Consider today the pictures we are seeing of Shoemaker-Levy
crashing into Jupiter -- information we would not have been able to
retrieve so rapidly and in such detail even 25 years ago.
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I'll continue to post some of the responses
here for a few more days. Isn't it absolutely ironic that Jupiter and the
comet are in the news now exactly 25 years after the moon walk ... if my
understanding is correct, bits of the comet are still banging into Jupiter
and will continue to do so for the next several days. This probably sounds
terribly ignorant of me, but I wonder if there are any forms of life on
Jupiter we would recognize as such, and if so, what they must be thinking
and pain they are enduring during this catastrophic event on their planet.
We've had a couple of close calls here on Earth in recent years with comets
coming within a few million miles of us. How far in advance did we know of
the Jupiter collision? I wonder when its time for it to happen here on
Earth -- and I think it will, its just a matter of time, but perhaps not in
our immediate lifetimes -- if the persons with knowledge of it will tell
us and deal with the insuing panic, or just let it happen? Somehow, I
feel I would prefer *not* to know. PAT]
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 01:37:32 MDT
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Firewalls and Internet Security" by Cheswick/Bellovin
BKFRINSC.RVW 940502
Addison-Wesley Publishing Company
P.O. Box 520 26 Prince Andrew Place
Don Mills, Ontario M3C 2T8
416-447-5101 fax: 416-443-0948
Heather Rignanesi, Marketing, x340, 73171.657@Compuserve.com
or
Tiffany Moore, Publicity tiffanym@aw.com
Bob Donegon bobd@aw.com
John Wait, Editor, Corporate and Professional Publishing johnw@aw.com
Tom Stone, Editor, Higher Education Division tomsto@aw.com
Philip Sutherland, Schulman Series 74640.2405@compuserve.com
Keith Wollman, Trade Computer Group keithw@aw.com
Lisa Roth Blackman, Trade Computer Group lisaro@aw.com
1 Jacob Way
Reading, MA 01867-9984
800-822-6339 617-944-3700
Fax: (617) 944-7273
5851 Guion Road
Indianapolis, IN 46254
800-447-2226
"Firewalls and Internet Security", Cheswick/Bellovin, 1994, 0-201-63357-4,
U$26.95.
firewall-book@research.att.com ches@research.att.com smb@research.att.com
The Internet has a reputation for a lack of security. Those books
which mention security on the Internet generally suggest setting up a
firewall machine in order to protect yourself, but stop short of
giving anything resembling details of how to do such a thing.
Cheswick and Bellovin not only give practical suggestions for firewall
construction, they also address other aspects of Internet security, as
well.
Part one gives a basic background, both of security, and of TCP/IP.
If you didn't think you needed security before, you will after reading
chapter two. Part two details the construction of firewall gateways,
as well as authentication, tools, traps, and cracking tools for use in
testing the integrity of your system. Part three discusses attacks,
and the logging and analysis, thereof. The book also looks at legal
aspects, secure communication over insecure links, resources and
various helpful information.
Although the book deals specifically with TCP/IP, the concepts, which
are the parts stressed, are applicable to any network-connected
systems. This is probably destined to become one of the security
classics within its specialized field.
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1994 BKFRINSC.RVW 940502. Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated newsgroups/mailing lists.
Vancouver ROBERTS@decus.ca
Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca
Research into rslade@cue.bc.ca
User p1@CyberStore.ca
Security Canada V7K 2G6
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From: dder@@intranet.gr (Dimitris Dervenis)
Subject: Calling 555-1212 From Outside the USA
Date: 18 Jul 1994 08:42:03 GMT
Organization: Intracom sa, GREECE
I tried to find a phone number in NYC, while calling from abroad:
country code - area code - 5551212 (this has worked in the past), but
now this service has been disabled. Now instead I need to call the
AT&T international operator who in turn asks me for my AT&T card!!!
Does this mean I have to pay AT&T for their card to get a phone
number? Is there any other way for a person living abroad to find the
telephone number of another person in the States?
Dimitris
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You are going about it the wrong way.
555-1212 should *never* have worked from outside the USA. It is an
internal-only number, much like our 800 numbers. Granted, it did work
in the way you described for quite awhile, but I think that was an
oversite on the part of the telecom administration in your country,
and not an authorized method of access to directory assistance here.
Try calling *your* international operator in *your* country. Don't
concern yourself with the AT&T operator. Tell *your* operator that you
want to make an international call to the USA and that you need to get
the number. She will handle the details. If you wish to call via the
USA direct operators of AT&T, then yes, you will pay for a call to
directory assistance. We all do over here; I think it is fifty cents
per call.
The same thing happens in reverse you see when we here in the USA try
to call direct into the directory databases in other countries. It can
be done; we can dial the same numbers (usually) that the international
operators of AT&T dial. Trouble is, by doing so we pay for an international
call in the process. If we go through *our* operator (which is the
authorized way, as I am suggesting you do on your end) and then place the
resulting call through our operator -- or even if we dial it direct --
there is no charge for the information call itself. Your ability to get
into 555-1212 was just a fluke I suspect, and one that apparently has
been corrected.
By the way, has anyone in the USA noticed that when you dial 011 plus the
country/city code somewhere, followed by 555-1212 you *do* frequently get
the local directory assistance operator in that country? Trouble is, it
shows up on your bill the next month like any other international call. It
won't work for all countries, but does in quite a few. PAT]
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TELECOM Digest Mon, 18 Jul 94 16:14:00 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 324
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
HR 3937 Coming to House Floor For Vote; Amendment Coming! (Robert McMillin)
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 08:36:44 -0700
From: rlm@netcom.com (Robert McMillin)
Subject: URGENT: HR 3937 Coming to House Floor For Vote; Amendment Coming!
Reply-To: rlm@helen.surfcty.com
The following is an alert message about the status of the Cantwell
bill, HR3937 these days, which would relax the restrictions on crypto
exports. Make sure you tell your representative you *only* support
the amended version.
------- Start of forwarded message -------
From: shabbir@panix.com (Shabbir J. Safdar)
Subject: URGENT: HR 3937 coming to House floor for vote; amendment coming!
Date: 17 Jul 1994 22:23:04 PDT
Organization: Voters Telecomm Watch (vtw@panix.com)
Reply-To: vtw@panix.com (Voters Telecomm Watch)
[updated July 18, 1994 shabbir]
[HR 3937 COMES TO THE FLOOR WEDNESDAY JULY 20TH; YOUR ACTION NEEDED]
[PLEASE CHECK THE "WHAT YOU CAN DO RIGHT NOW" SECTION!]
DISTRIBUTE WIDELY
Table of contents:
Introduction & Alert
Status of the bill
What you can do right now
List of legislators supporting HR 3937 (formerly HR 3627)
List of legislators wavering on HR 3937 (formerly HR 3627)
List of legislators opposing HR 3937 (formerly HR 3627)
What is the Cantwell bill?
INTRODUCTION
Voters Telecomm Watch keeps scorecards on legislators' positions on
legislation that affects telecommunications and civil liberties. If
you have updates to a legislator's positions, from either:
-public testimony,
-reply letters from the legislator,
-stated positions from their office,
please contact vtw@panix.com so they can be added to this list.
General questions: vtw@panix.com
Mailing List Requests: vtw-list-request@panix.com
Press Contact: stc@panix.com
Gopher URL: gopher://gopher.panix.com:70/1/1/vtw
WWW URL: Be patient; we're working on it. :-)
STATUS OF THE BILL (updated 7/18/94)
The Cantwell bill HR3627, that allows for fewer restrictions on
exports of cryptography, was rolled into the General Export
Administration Act HR 3937. The House Foreign Affairs Committee
passed the full strength version out of committee after open, public
hearings. The House Intelligence Committee took the bill and gutted
it after a day of closed, secret hearings. The gutted version will
come to the House floor on Wednesday July 20th.
A amendment that reinstates Rep. Maria Cantwell's cryptography export
provisions WILL be offered. It is crucial that you ensure that your
representative knows that you support ONLY the amended version of this
bill.
This may be the last thing you can do for the cryptographic export
legislation. Take the time to make a call!
Schedule/Chronology of the bill
Jul 20, 94 HR3937 comes to House floor; a "good" amendement will be offered
[YOUR ACTION IS NEEDED TO PASS THIS]
Jul 11, 94 House Rules Committee marks HR3937 "open"; allowing amendments
Jun 30, 94 [*** vote postponed, perhaps till the week of 7/11/94]
House Rules Comm. decides whether to allow amendments
on the bill when it reaches the House floor
Jun 14, 94 Gutted by the House Select Committee on Intelligence
May 20, 94 Referred to the House Select Committee on Intelligence
May 18, 94 Passed out of the House Foreign Affairs Committee on May 18
attached to HR 3937, the General Export Administration Act
Dec 6, 93 Referred to the Subcommittee on Economic Policy, Trade and
Nov 22, 93 Referred to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs.
WHAT YOU CAN DO RIGHT NOW
Estimated time to do this good deed: Six minutes
Your legislator needs to know that you want them to support HR3937 but
only with an amendment including Rep. Maria Cantwell's cryptography
export provisions.
If you wish to fax a letter instead of calling, that's fine too.
If you don't know who your representative is, call:
-The League of Women Voters in your area, or
-Any representative from your state. They will tell you which
is yours.
You can obtain a complete copy of all representatives by:
-checking the VTW gopher site:
URL:gopher://gopher.panix.com:70/1/1/vtw
(check under Congress)
-or by dropping a note to vtw@panix.com
[Our directory is a bit out of date. Please check all fax numbers
before sending. People volunteering to obtain a new directory for us
are welcome to help out.]
Feel free to use the following sample communique:
The Honorable ____________
address
Washington DC, 20515
Dear Congressman or Congresswoman,
On Wed. July 20th, HR 3937 (General Export Administration Act)
comes to the floor. Please support HR3937 but only with an
amendment including Rep. Maria Cantwell's cryptography export
provisions. These provisions are crucial to the development of
privacy-enhancing technology as the competitiveness of the
American cryptographic industry.
Sincerely,
_________________________________
A shorter telephone sample communique might be:
Dear Congressman or Congresswoman,
Please support HR3937 but only with an amendment including
Rep. Maria Cantwell's cryptography export provisions.
Thank you.
LIST OF LEGISLATORS SUPPORTING CRYPTOGRAPHY EXPORT LEGISLATION
The following legislators have formally registered support for
cryptography export legislation. Call them with your cheers.
All addresses are Washington, D.C. 20515
Dist ST Name, Address, and Party Phone Fax
==== == ======================== ============== ==============
1 WA Cantwell, Maria (D) 1-202-225-6311 1-202-225-2286
1520 LHOB
HR 3627's sponsor; thank her for her work!
16 IL Manzullo, Donald (R) 1-202-225-5676 1-202-225-5284
506 Cannon
Cosponsored HR 3627 on 11/22/93
3 UT Orton, William H. (D) 1-202-225-7751 1-202-226-1223
1122 LHOB
Cosponsored HR 3627 on 03/22/94
3 OR Wyden, Ronald (D) 1-202-225-4811 1-202-225-8941
1111 LHOB
Cosponsored HR 3627 on 03/22/94
16 CA Edwards, Donald (D) 1-202-225-3072 1-202-225-9460
2307 RHOB
Cosponsored HR 3627 on 03/22/94
19 OH Fingerhut, Eric D. (D) 1-202-225-5731 1-202-225-9114
431 Cannon
Cosponsored HR 3627 on 03/22/94
4 MA Frank, Barney (D) 1-202-225-5931 1-202-225-0182
2404 RHOB
Cosponsored HR 3627 on 03/22/94
2 UT Shepherd, Karen (D) 1-202-225-3011 1-202-226-0354
414 Cannon
Cosponsored HR 3627 on 03/22/94
3 WA Unsoeld, Jolene (D) 1-202-225-3536 1-202-225-9095
1527 LHOB
Cosponsored HR 3627 on 03/22/94
19 FL Johnston II, Harry (D) 1-202-225-3001 1-202-225-8791
204 Cannon
Cosponsored HR 3627 on 03/22/94
9 WA Kreidler, Mike (D) 1-202-225-8901 1-202-226-2361
1535 LHOB
Cosponsored HR 3627 on 03/22/94
4 WA Inslee, Jay (D) 1-202-225-5816 1-202-226-1137
1431 LHOB
Cosponsored HR 3627 on 03/22/94
7 WA McDermott, James A. (D) 1-202-225-3106 1-202-225-9212
1707 LHOB
Cosponsored HR 3627 on 03/22/94
8 IN McCloskey, Frank (D) 1-202-225-4636 1-202-225-4688
306 Cannon
Cosponsored HR 3627 on 03/22/94
14 CA Eshoo, Anna G. (D) 1-202-225-8104 1-202-225-8890
1505 LHOB
Cosponsored HR 3627 on 03/22/94
10 NC Ballenger, Thomas C. (R) 1-202-225-2576 1-202-225-0316
2238 RHOB
Cosponsored HR 3627 on 05/04/94
2 WA Swift, Al (D) 1-202-225-2605 1-202-225-2608
1502 LHOB
Cosponsored HR 3627 on 05/04/94
LIST OF LEGISLATORS WAVERING ON CRYPTOGRAPHY EXPORT LEGISLATION
[Feel free to use the sample communique at the end of the FAQ when calling
or writing a legislator.]
26 NY Hinchey, Maurice D. (D) 1-202-225-6335 1-202-226-0774
1313 LHOB
Recently told a constituent that he is taking the Cantwell bill
under consideration, but has "national security concerns" about
allowing encryption to be exported outside the United States.
1 IA Leach, James (R) 1-202-225-6576 1-202-226-1278
2186 RHOB
Has yet to answer a constituent letter with a stated position.
13 NY Molinari, Susan (D) 1-202-225-3371 1-202-226-1272
123 Cannon
Has yet to answer a constituent letter with a stated position.
(has taken inordinately long)
8 NY Nadler, Jerrold (D) 1-202-225-5635 1-202-225-6923
424 Cannon
Met with lobbying constituent in April '94; no position taken yet
25 CA McKeon, Howard P. (R) 1-202-225-1956 1-202-226-0683
307 Cannon
Responded to a constituent with a "non-position", May '94
Had a favorable meeting with a constituent and a VTW volunteer
in May '94.
LIST OF LEGISLATORS OPPOSING CRYPTOGRAPHY EXPORT LEGISLATION
[Feel free to use the sample communique at the end of the FAQ when calling
or writing a legislator.]
Dist ST Name, Address, and Party Phone Fax
==== == ======================== ============== ==============
5 AL Cramer Jr, Robert E. (D) 1-202-225-4801 1-202-225-4392
1318 LHOB
FAILED Cryptography exports:
Voted to kill Rep. Cantwell's export provisions in the
House Intelligence Committee on 6/15/94.
8 CA Pelosi, Nancy (D) 1-202-225-4965 1-202-225-8259
240 Cannon
FAILED Cryptography exports:
Voted to kill Rep. Cantwell's export provisions in the
House Intelligence Committee on 6/15/94.
32 CA Dixon, Julian C. (D) 1-202-225-7084 1-202-225-4091
2400 RHOB
FAILED Cryptography exports:
Voted to kill Rep. Cantwell's export provisions in the
House Intelligence Committee on 6/15/94.
40 CA Lewis, Jerry (R) 1-202-225-5861 1-202-225-6498
2312 RHOB
FAILED Cryptography exports:
Voted to kill Rep. Cantwell's export provisions in the
House Intelligence Committee on 6/15/94.
46 CA Dornan, Robert K. (R) 1-202-225-2965 no reliable fax
2402 RHOB
FAILED Cryptography exports:
Voted to kill Rep. Cantwell's export provisions in the
House Intelligence Committee on 6/15/94.
2 CO Skaggs, David E. (D) 1-202-225-2161 1-202-225-9127
1124 LHOB
FAILED Cryptography exports:
Voted to kill Rep. Cantwell's export provisions in the
House Intelligence Committee on 6/15/94.
10 FL Young, C. W. (R) 1-202-225-5961 1-202-225-9764
2407 RHOB
FAILED Cryptography exports:
Voted to kill Rep. Cantwell's export provisions in the
House Intelligence Committee on 6/15/94.
4 KS Glickman, Daniel (D) 1-202-225-6216 1-202-225-5398
2371 RHOB
FAILED Cryptography exports:
Voted to kill Rep. Cantwell's export provisions in the
House Intelligence Committee on 6/15/94.
1 NE Bereuter, Douglas (R) 1-202-225-4806 1-202-226-1148
2348 RHOB
FAILED Cryptography exports:
Voted to kill Rep. Cantwell's export provisions in the
House Intelligence Committee on 6/15/94.
9 NJ Torricelli, Robert (D) 1-202-224-5061 1-202-225-0843
2159 RHOB
FAILED Cryptography exports:
Voted to kill Rep. Cantwell's export provisions in the
House Intelligence Committee on 6/15/94.
3 NM Richardson, William (D) 1-202-225-6190 no reliable fax
2349 RHOB
FAILED Cryptography exports:
Voted to kill Rep. Cantwell's export provisions in the
House Intelligence Committee on 6/15/94.
1 NV Bilbray, James H. (D) 1-202-225-5965 1-202-225-8808
2431 RHOB
FAILED Cryptography exports:
Voted to kill Rep. Cantwell's export provisions in the
House Intelligence Committee on 6/15/94.
17 PA Gekas, George W. (R) 1-202-225-4315 1-202-225-8440
2410 RHOB
FAILED Cryptography exports:
Voted to kill Rep. Cantwell's export provisions in the
House Intelligence Committee on 6/15/94.
2 RI Reed, John F. (D) 1-202-225-2735 1-202-225-9580
1510 LHOB
FAILED Cryptography exports:
Voted to kill Rep. Cantwell's export provisions in the
House Intelligence Committee on 6/15/94.
14 TX Laughlin, Gregory H. (D) 1-202-225-2831 1-202-225-1108
236 Cannon
FAILED Cryptography exports:
Voted to kill Rep. Cantwell's export provisions in the
House Intelligence Committee on 6/15/94.
16 TX Coleman, Ronald D. (D) 1-202-225-4831 None
440 Cannon
FAILED Cryptography exports:
Voted to kill Rep. Cantwell's export provisions in the
House Intelligence Committee on 6/15/94.
19 TX Combest, Larry (R) 1-202-225-4005 1-202-225-9615
1511 LHOB
FAILED Cryptography exports:
Voted to kill Rep. Cantwell's export provisions in the
House Intelligence Committee on 6/15/94.
1 UT Hansen, James V. (R) 1-202-225-0453 1-202-225-5857
2466 RHOB
FAILED Cryptography exports:
Voted to kill Rep. Cantwell's export provisions in the
House Intelligence Committee on 6/15/94.
6 WA Dicks, Norman D. (D) 1-202-225-5916 1-202-226-1176
2467 RHOB
FAILED Cryptography exports:
Voted to kill Rep. Cantwell's export provisions in the
House Intelligence Committee on 6/15/94.
What is the Cantwell bill?
The Cantwell bill would permit companies to export products with
encryption technology in them. US companies are currently not
permitted to export products (hardware or software) with this
technology in them.
What is encryption technology?
Encryption technology, or cryptography, is the art of scrambling a
conversation so that only the people communicating can decode it.
Other people (such as eavesdroppers) cannot learn about the
conversation.
Where is cryptography being used?
Cryptography is used to encrypt electronic mail to protect its
confidentiality in transit. It's used by bank automatic teller
machines to protect sensitive data (such as your account number, your
Personal Identification Number, and your bank balance). It can be
implemented into software (such as electronic mail programs and word
processors) as well as hardware (such as telephones and
"walkie-talkies") to ensure your privacy.
Why is there a restriction on exporting products with technology
in them?
For many years the United States poured vast sums of money into
cryptography. The US government thought that if they did not let this
technology be exported, foreign individuals would not be able to
obtain it and use it against us (by keeping US intelligence agencies
from eavesdropping on their communications)
Today, many companies selling cryptographic technology are producing
their products for the global market. A recent Software Publishers'
Association Report (available from the VTW gopher) identified over 200
non-US companies producing cryptographic technology in the global
marketplace. You can buy the same, high-quality cryptographic
technology from many international firms despite the US export
regulations. Although the marketplace has changed, the regulations
have not.
Why should the regulations be changed?
US companies compete in a global marketplace. Because of the export
regulations, they often compete alongside products with superior
cryptographic capabilities built into them.
The result is that US companies build their products with an inferior
encryption technology. The result of this is that you, as an American
consumer, have great difficulty obtaining products with strong
encryption in them.
Because US products cannot compete against products with better
privacy features, and because the laws are outdated, the regulations
should be changed. The Cantwell bill fixes these regulations to more
accurately resemble the current situation of the world marketplace.
How can I help encourage more privacy-enhanced products and
pass the Cantwell bill?
Call or write your representative and ask them to support or cosponsor
Rep. Cantwell's export provisions (formerly HR 3627) in the General
Export Administration Act, HR 3937. You can base your letter on the
sample communication below.
SAMPLE LETTER OR PHONE CALL
The Honorable ____________
address
Washington DC, 20515
Dear Congressman or Congresswoman,
As a citizen concerned for my privacy, as well as a supporter of
American business, I urge you to cosponsor the Rep. Cantwell's
cryptographic export provisions (formerly HR 3627) in the General
Export Administration Act, HR 3937.
The bill would allow US companies to produce and export products with
cryptographic privacy-enhancing technology in them. These products
are already available from firms throughout the world. US companies
lose nearly $100 million per year in exports to them.
By encouraging this industry, ordinary citizens like you and me would
be able to purchase products with better privacy features.
Please support or co-sponsor HR 3937.
Sincerely,
------- End of forwarded message -------
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 11:35:32 MDT
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "UNIX Network Programming" by Stevens
BKUNXNTP.RVW 940429
PTR Prentice Hall
113 Sylvan Avenue
Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632
(515) 284-6751
FAX (515) 284-2607
or
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or
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Indianapolis, IN 46290
or
15 Columbus Circle
New York, NY 10023
800-428-5331
or
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phyllis@prenhall.com - Phyllis Eve Bregman
70621.2737@CompuServe.COM Alan Apt
mfranz@prenhall.com Mary Franz
Beth Mullen-Hespe beth_hespe@prenhall.com
"UNIX Network Programming", Stevens, 1990, 0-13-949876-1
rstevens@noao.edu
This is a very solid textbook for the programming of network functions
and applications in the UNIX environment. Starting with the basics of
network models, the book then moves through UNIX specific net concepts
and interprocess communications. The details of TCP/IP are evidently
the preferred model in the examples, but XNS, SNA, NetBIOS, OSI and
UUCP also get coverage. Berkeley sockets and the System V transport
interface are outlined, as well as Berkeley library routines. There
is discussion of applications in security, time and date, ping,
trivial file transfer protocol, print spoolers, remote execution,
login and drive access, performance and remote procedure calls.
The excellence of the text is also evident in the care taken with the
chapter exercises. They are not mere reading checks, but real tests
of understanding of the concepts covered. The bibliography, as well,
is thorough and helpfully annotated.
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1994 BKUNXNTP.RVW 940429. Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated newsgroups/mailing lists.
Vancouver ROBERTS@decus.ca | "My son, beware ... of the
Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca | making of books there is
Research into rslade@cue.bc.ca | no end, and much study is
User p1@CyberStore.ca | a weariness of the flesh."
Security Canada V7K 2G6 | Ecclesiastes 12:12
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 09:45:56 CDT
From: David Devereaux-Weber <weberdd@clover.macc.wisc.edu>
Reply-To: weberdd@doit.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: Bridge vs. Router Performance
Scott Thomas <sthomas@mitchell.hitc.com> said:
[diagram omitted]
> We tested the above configuration, and got poorer that expected
> results. We decided to replace the bridges with routers, one per
> segment. The throughput was tripled!
> I was under the impression that bridges were more efficient because
> of lower overhead, less complexity, etc. and therefore would offer
> the better performance.
> Does anyone have thoughts on the matter?
It depends on what protocols the network is carying. Routers can
improve performance on several protocols by reducing unnecessary
broadcast traffic -- for example, in an IPX network, if there are many
servers, the servers periodically advertise their resources to the
network in broadcast messages. Routers can suppress redundant
messages like that and then regenerate them on the other end of a
link. Furthermore, plain old IPX (without packet burst) sends a
packet at a time and then waits for an acknowledgement that the packet
arrived at the far end. A satellite circuit has a significant delay,
which severely limits throughput. Routers can "spoof" the IPX
protocol by sending an acknowledgement (an electronic white lie) from
the local router before the packet is recieved by the far end. The
far router blocks the acknowledgement, because it knows the near
router has already simulated it. Because of the magnitude of the
delay of the satellite link, several packets can be in the pipeline
during the time required to send just one and wait for the ack.
If your network is IP, much of the broadcast traffic (like ARP
packets) can be kept off narrow bandwidth long delay circuits like the
satellite link.
So, in a purely local, wide bandwidth network, a bridge has less
latency than a router, but in a narrow, long delay network like one
with a satellite link, a router can reduce broadcast traffic and
improve performance on many protocols.
David Devereaux-Weber, P.E. weberdd@doit.wisc.edu (Internet)
The University of Wisconsin - Madison (608)262-3584 (voice)
Division of Information Technology (608)262-4679 (FAX)
Network Engineering
------------------------------
From: brettf@netcom.com (Brett Frankenberger)
Subject: Re: Call Blocking Bypass Scheme?
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 02:59:54 GMT
hpa@eecs.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin) writes:
>> [ SUMMARY by brettf: Call 10658-1-4xx-xxA-VAMP for 900-style content
>> calling 4xx-xxA-VAMP with another carrier (other than whoever
>> 10658 is) won't work. ]
> Uuuuh, Pat ... if that xxxx is what the initial poster seems to imply
> (presumably 3825 or something similar) then there is no area code 4xx.
> If xxxx spells *anything* there is no area code 4xx (yet). It looks
> like the 10658 carrier makes up numbers. Maybe the initial poster
> would like to clarify if xxxx did start with 0/1 or if it was indeed a
> four-letter word.
It would not be possible for a carrier to make up numbers (unless the
carrier were accessed by 950-XXXX or 1-800). Calls dialed via 10XXX
are still parsed initially by the originating CO.
In some cases, if you dial a local or Intra-LATA toll call with 10XXX
in front, it will either be rejected, or the 10XXX will be ingored and
the LEC will handle the call. (Some LEC's allow you to make
Intra-LATA calls via an IXC, though).
In most, if not all, CO switches, 10658-1-438-25A-VAMP would be parsed
as 10658-1-438-25AV (and the AMP would be discarded), and the call
would be treated an an intra-NPA (calling to the same area code) call
... if it turned out to be Inter-LATA, it would definitely be passed
to the 10658 carrier ... if it was Intra-LATA (toll or local) it would
depend on the policy. (In some areas, use of NXX prefixes mandates
that 1 always be followed by an area code. In that case,
10658-1-438-25A-VAMP would be parsed with 438 as an area code, and the
call would be rejected (possibly as soon as you had completed dialing
the 438) for having an invalid area code). In other words, only in
very rare (if any) cases would the full 438-25A-VAMP number be passed
to the 10658 carrier. (The point here being general information ...
it doesn't deal directly with the case at hand, because, as Pat
pointed out, XXXX probably doesn't spell anything and is definitely a
valid NPA (N0N)).
Even after NXX area codes are implemented (Jan 1995), it still would
likey not work, as most LECs will probably maintain lists of valid
area codes in their switches and reject calls to invalid ones, even if
they are prefixed with 10XXX.
Brett (brettf@netcom.com)
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yeah, see what I think some people do not
understand is that the local telco doesn't give calls prefaced with 10XXX
out at all **until after they have looked it over first**. Then, if the
local telco finds it is not something within the LATA which it can handle
itself (assuming agreements such as that currently between AT&T and IBT
are not in existence); that the area code and exchange, or country code
or whatever are found in the 'tables' and are correct; and that the call
is otherwise allowed *then* it says okay, you want carrier 10XXX to handle
the call? Great! ... and it hands it off to XXX. Until/unless local telco
has examined the number, found it to be something they themselves do not
reserve the right to handle and the number otherwise in order, it will
bounce. Makes no difference what XXX you stick on there. So 10658 cannot
just make up numbers; no one else will have it in their tables and no one
else will pass their traffic. Therefore in the example given in the original
article, 4xx has to be some valid area code as we know them today; the
'x-ed out number' was that way to avoid publicizing it, but it is a dialable
number ... just that the Information Provider owning it refuses to service
it unless your call comes on his T-1 via 10658. PAT]
------------------------------
From: bkron@netcom.com (Kronos)
Subject: Re: Call Blocking Bypass Scheme?
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 20:27:25 GMT
>> 10658 -- whoever that is
658 is ONCOR aka "Cellular Long Distance"
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Ah, good heavens! Of course ... ONCOR.
How could I have forgotten about them? So they are running an electronic
house of ill-repute now also, just like Madam Bell and all the others.
Well good, I am happy for them. Parents of eleven year old boys should
beware however: ONCOR is a tiger to deal with when it comes to getting
refunds or adjustments. One of their friggin' payphones was used to call
my phone collect a few months ago. Ooh la la ... twenty dollars and
some change for a five minute collect call. I can't imagine how much they
charge for taking care of dudes in college dorms at night who use their
(ahem!) services in lieu of taking a cold shower. <grin> . That's enough
for today. See ya tomorrow. PAT]
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 23:25 EDT
From: johnl@iecc.com (John R Levine)
Subject: Re: USA Direct Question
Organization: I.E.C.C., Cambridge, Mass.
> AT&T says to dial "0500-89-0011". However in its directories and on
> London Underground maps British Telecom (BT) says that the number is
> "0800-89-0011". [and AT&T says to use the 0500 number]
I believe that 0800 is toll free via BT, while 0500 is toll free via
Mercury. Considering BT's recent deal with MCI, I'm not surprised
that AT&T would switch to their less expensive competitor.
Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, jlevine@delphi.com, 1037498@mcimail.com
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From: sjmz@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Stefek Zaba)
Subject: Re: USA Direct Question
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 08:19:19 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, England
David G. Cantor (dgc@ccrwest.org) wrote:
> What is going on?
when telling about USA Direct being either an 0500 or an 0800 number.
The 0800 numbers are run by BT (British Telecom); the 0500 numbers
came in maybe a year ago, and are provided by BT's rival, Mercury.
Presumably AT&T used to used BT and switched to Mercury.
Cheers,
Stefek
------------------------------
Subject: Re: USA Direct Question
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 13:19:14 +0100 (BST)
From: Clive D.W. Feather <clive@sco.COM>
Quoth David Cantor:
> I was recently in England making calls to the US using the AT&T
> service "USA Direct". AT&T says to dial "0500-89-0011". However in
> its directories and on London Underground maps British Telecom (BT)
> says that the number is "0800-89-0011".
> When I dialed AT&T's USA Direct using the latter (BT) number, the AT&T
> operator asked me where I obtained the number, and then told me to use
> the first number instead.
0800 numbers are "free-to-caller" numbers provided by British Telecom.
0500 numbers are "free-to-caller" numbers provided by Mercury
Telecommunications. It would appear that AT&T are getting a better
deal from Hg than BT, and so have switched carriers.
"800 portability - what's that ?" :-(
Clive D.W. Feather | Santa Cruz Operation
clive@sco.com | Croxley Centre
Phone: +44 923 816 344 | Hatters Lane, Watford
Fax: +44 923 210 352 | WD1 8YN, United Kingdom
------------------------------
From: mk@TFS.COM (Mike King)
Subject: Re: USA Direct Question
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 23:42:38 PDT
In TELECOM Digest, V14 #320, David G. Cantor <dgc@ccrwest.org> asked:
> I was recently in England making calls to the US using the AT&T
> service "USA Direct". AT&T says to dial "0500-89-0011". However in
> it s directories and on London Underground maps British Telecom (BT)
> says that the number is "0800-89-0011".
The second number is older, using the BT network free number. The
former number uses the Mercury network free number. I understand it
has a lower per-minute charge when using USA Direct.
Mercury is the first competitive long distance service to enter the
British market. They have their own STD codes ("area codes") for each
service where they compete against BT.
Mike King mk@tfs.com
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 09:50:20 -0400
From: richard@mandarin.com
Subject: Re: USA Direct Question
We have LD competition over in England, too. But BT's 0800 numbers
arrived first, and AT&T got themselves one for USA direct. Then
Mercury came along with their equivalent (which used the 0500 code)
and AT&T got one of those numbers, too! Of course BT promote the
0800 number as it's their service and they get the revenue. AT&T
prefer you to call the 0500 number as AT&T have to pay for the inbound
call in order to connect you to the number you want -- and Mercury
charge them less than BT does!
Richard D G Cox
Mandarin Technology, PO Box 111, Penarth, South Glamorgan CF64 3YG
Voice: 0956 700111; Fax: 0956 700110; VoiceMail: 0941 151515
e-mail address: richard@mandarin.com; PGP2.6 public key on request
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 10:05:05 PDT
From: Ole J. Jacobsen <ole@CSLI.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Re: USA Direct Question
Yes, they are changing from 0800 to 0500. The reason is that the 0800
numbers belong to British Telecom which owns (part of?) MCI a direct
competitor to AT&T. The 0500 numbers are owned by the other carrier in
the UK, Mercury Communications hence the switch.
Last I was there I found that both numbers worked, but I guess they
are phasing out the 0800 number.
Ole J Jacobsen, Editor & Publisher, ConneXions--The Interoperability Report,
Interop Company, a division of ZD Expos, 303 Vintage Park Drive, Foster City,
CA 94404-1138, USA. Phone: +1 (415) 578-6988 Fax: +1 (415) 525-0194.
------------------------------
From: rlockhart@aol.com (RLockhart)
Subject: Re: Pager and Pager Network
Date: 18 Jul 1994 14:10:04 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
In article <telecom14.318.15@eecs.nwu.edu>, Curtis E. Reid
<CER2520@ritvax.isc.rit.edu> writes:
> Do you, TELECOM Digest readers, know of any other pager network
> companies in the U.S.A. that also offer TDD paging? If so, can you
> give me their name, address, contact, and phone number (TDD if
> possible)?
Probably one of the fastest ways to find such paging service providers
is by calling one of the manufacturers of such translating equipment.
One such manufacturer is TekNow in Phoenix, Arizona .. 602.266.7800.
TekNow makes a front end processor that, among other things,
translates from TDD to TAP, the alpha page entry protocol. Perhaps
they would be able to provide you with some background on the paging
service providers that use their equipment.
Another method would be to contact our Subscriber/Pan Am marketing
group. They have a marketer who specializes in such alpha services.
> On another track, Page New York says that a pager can only be used with
> a single page network company you subscribe to. Their rationale is
> that the pager frequency is specific to the company and is not
> transportable to another pager network company. Not like the way
> cellular phone company do. I told them I find it hard to believe
> because I'm sure there are a lot of people who travel frequently and
> would need to be paged wherever they are. Can anyone explain what
> exactly is the restriction on the pager for certain coverage?
Right constraint, wrong reason ... most pagers are limited to a
specific operating frequency because they are crystal-controlled. The
operating frequency is assigned to a specific carrier in a region and
they purchase pagers to operate on that frequency. Frequencies,
though, are reused by other carriers in different geographic areas
based on some rather specific FCC rules. Some times, these
geographically-separate carriers will band together to offer a
'roaming' service, but this doesn't happen very often.
If you travel frequently, perhaps you should consider one of the
regional or nationwide services.
Rob Lockhart, Resource Manager, Interactive Data Systems
Paging Products Group, Motorola, Inc.
Desktop I'net: lockhart-epag06_rob@email.mot.com
Wireless I'net (<32K characters): rob_lockhart-erl003e@email.mot.com
------------------------------
From: daveheld@delphi.com
Subject: Re: Pager and Pager Network
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 21:42:38 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
For the most part, a pager can be used only with the pager company
that issued it.
There are nationwide paging services that offer service in nearly all
major cities, so you can use your pager in any of those cities; but my
first statement is still true.
Dave
------------------------------
From: taranto@panix.com (James Taranto)
Subject: Re: Caller-ID in Phoenix, AZ
Date: 18 Jul 1994 01:07:10 GMT
Organization: The Bad Taranto
In article <telecom14.321.3@eecs.nwu.edu>, kreed@libre.com (Kevin W. Reed)
wrote:
> We are covered by US West here in Phoenix and recently, I hooked up
> two lines for Caller-ID. One voice line and and one of my data lines.
> I noticed pretty quickly that the only Caller-ID information that we
> were getting was from the Metropolitan Phoenix area only with everything
> else coming in as "OUT-OF-AREA".
> I thought this was a bit strange as others (in other States) have
> mentioned that they obtain Caller-ID information from other areas of
> the country on their units.
Most long-distance carriers do not carry Caller ID information.
Cheers,
James Taranto taranto@panix.com
------------------------------
From: llong@wiltel.com (Larry Long)
Subject: Re: Caller-ID in Phoenix, AZ
Date: 18 Jul 1994 17:50:55 GMT
Organization: Network Development
In article <telecom14.321.3@eecs.nwu.edu>, kreed@libre.com (Kevin W.
Reed) says:
> ... they said it was up to the long distance carrier to
> provide such information and the reason why we don't get it is because
> the callers are using a carrier that doesn't provide that information.
US West is telling you correctly. WilTel DOES provide caller ID
information. If you want to see it, for yourself provide me your
voice number and I will call you. My voice number is 918-588-5056.
------------------------------
From: daveheld@delphi.com
Subject: Re: Pacific Bell Saves its Backside
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 02:25:12 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
One of my telephone companies also changed its bill format, and,
similar to the above, printed a notice about how the new format would
save paper and trees. This notice was printed alone on its own sheet
of paper.
Dave
------------------------------
From: paul@senex.unh.edu (Paul S. Sawyer)
Subject: Re: Pacific Bell Saves its Backside
Date: 18 Jul 1994 11:03:06 GMT
Organization: UNH Telecommunications and Network Services
In article <telecom14.317.10@eecs.nwu.edu> Alan Millar <AMillar@bolis.
sf-bay.org> writes:
> My local phone company, Pacific Bell, started printing phone bills on
> both sides of the paper this month.
Ditto NYNEX, for a few months now. (Bicoastal fad?)
Paul S. Sawyer - University of New Hampshire CIS - Paul.Sawyer@UNH.Edu
Telecommunications and Network Services VOX: +1 603 862 3262
50 College Road FAX: +1 603 862 4545
Durham, New Hampshire 03824-3523
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 10:02:08 PDT
From: Ole J. Jacobsen <ole@CSLI.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Re: NetWorld+Interop'94 Atlanta
The show is September 12-16. Send your postal address to info@interop.com
for a program brochure, or check out http://programs.interop.com for
online information.
Ole J Jacobsen, Editor & Publisher, ConneXions--The Interoperability Report,
Interop Company, a division of ZD Expos, 303 Vintage Park Drive, Foster City,
CA 94404-1138, USA. Phone: +1 (415) 578-6988 Fax: +1 (415) 525-0194.
------------------------------
From: rjames@netcom.com (Richard James)
Subject: Re: Networld+Interop'94 Atlanta
Organization: Kia Ora Associates
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 22:14:43 GMT
In article <telecom14.318.12@eecs.nwu.edu>, atiwan@nwg.nectec.or.th
(Atiwan Prakobsantisukh) wrote:
> Does anyone have any details about the program they could share with me?
Try their WWW server which I think is at www.zdexpos.com.
The URL should be http://www.zdexpos.com.
rj
------------------------------
From: aoj@access2.digex.net (aaronjones)
Subject: Simple T1 WAN Networking
Date: 19 Jul 1994 00:24:01 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Greetings Y'all,
I have a client who has a T1 running between two points seperated by
approximately 1700 miles. They have a LAN at each one of the two
locations. The machines on the LANS are an assortment of Macs, Windows
PCs, and UNIX boxes (SCO, Solaris 2.3, Motorola 88/Open(yechh), and an
RS-6000 thrown in for good measure.
The machines on the LANs at both ends are running a mixture of TCP/IP,
The LANs are running a mixture of TCP/IP,IPX/SPX, and Ethertalk.
What they would like to do is (strangely enough) connect their LANs
together over the T1 circuit.
They would like to do so at the cheapest possible cost.
BTW, the T1 is currently sitting idle awaiting installation of a Frame
Relay network, but they need something _now_. I will not be receiving
any renumeration for this, but I would like to help out a friend.
Any advise as to how they might accomplish this would be greatly
appreciated.
Aaron Jones Ph: (416) 213-2040 <Witty thought of the day omitted>
InterAccess Consulting Fax:(416) 213-5760
Toronto, Ontario Email: aoj@digex.net
------------------------------
From: mchenry@misvms.bpa.arizona.edu
Subject: CFP: Satellite Conference in Russia
Date: 18 Jul 1994 09:47 MST
Organization: University of Arizona (BPA)
International Conference on Satellite Communications
ICSC'94
October 18-21, 1994 Moscow, Russia
Organizers
- Russian Popov Society for Radioengineering, Electronics and Communications
- Institute of Radioengineering and Electronics, Russian Academy of Sciences
- International Center for Scientific and Technical Information
- IEEE Russia Section
- IEEE Communications Society
- IEEE Region 8
- CSELT (Italy)
- TELESPAZIO (Italy)
In cooperation with:
* Ministry of Communications of Russia
* Russia Space Agency
* Regional Communication Administration of C.I.S.
* Russian-American Magazine "Networks"
* Research Radio Institute (Russia)
* Intergovernment International Organization On Space Communication
"Intersputnik"
* Joint Stock Company "Telecom" (Russia)
* Joint Stock Company "Maraphon-Earth" (Russia)
* Joint Stock Company "Informkosmos" (Russia)
* Research & Production Enterprise "Prikladnaya Mekhanika" (Russia)
* Research & Production Enterprise "Energia" (Russia)
* Space Research Institute, Russian Academy Of Sciences
* State Enterprise "Space Communication" (Russia)
* State Enterprise "Morsvyazsputnik" (Russia)
* Fund for Development of Telecommunication Systems Of Russia
* Moscow Research Radioengineering Institute (Russia)
* Moscow Research Institute For Radio Communications (Russia)
* International Academy Of Informatization (Department On Satellite
And Earth Communication Systems And Broadcasting)
SESSIONS OF THE CONFERENCE :
Session 1 -Satellite communication systems and broadcasting
Session 2- Platform launchers and space complex
Session 3- Technology and equipment for satellite
communications
Session 4- Satellite based systems with high elliptical and
low Earth orbits
Session 5- Satellite based systems for ecological monitoring
and navigation
Session 6- VSAT networking and data transmission
Session 7- Signal processing for satellite communications
PRELIMINARY PROGRAMME :
October 18,1994
Tuesday
10.00-14.00 Opening ceremony
Plenary session
14.00-15.00-Lunch
15.00-18.00-Sessions 1,5.
19.00 Cocktail-party
October 19,1994
Wednesday
9.00-13.00 Sessions 1,5
11.00-13.00 Sessions 4,7
13.00-15.00 Lunch
Discussion of poster papers (Sessions 1,4,5,7)
15.00-17.00 Sessions 4,7
17.00-18.00 Round table discussion
Session 6
October 20,1994
Thursday
9.00-13.00 Sessions 2,4.
11.00-13.00 Session 3
11.00-13.00 Round table discussion "Satellites with low Earth orbits"
13.00-15.00 Lunch
Discussion of poster papers (Sessions 2,3,6)
15.00-17.00 Closing ceremony
October 21,1994
Friday
10.00-17.00 Visits to research and space centers.
Visit to International Exhibition "NetCom94".
The International Technical Programme Committee has approved
Your paper...............................................
...............................................
for presenting at:
Plenary session
Session...........................................
poster paper discussion
The registration fee (300 $US) should be sent by October 1,1994 to
Bank Account:
ICSTI
acc.# 00107001147
Beneficiary's Bank: BANK "CREDIT-MOSCOW"
16, Gospitalnaya Sq.,
111250 Moscow, Russia
Intermediary Bank: The Bank of New York
48, Wall Street, NY NY 10286
acc. # 890-0057-033
The registration fee includes: visa support, hotel reservation, local
transport, sightseeing of Moscow with a guide, cocktail party, coffee
breaks, program and proceedings of the conference, business visits,
translation services, arrival and departure service.
The registration fee for accompanying persons (85 $US) includes visa
support, local transport, hotel reservation, cocktail party,
sightseeing of Moscow, arrival and departure services.
Deadline for Your paper in camera-ready format is August 15,1994. The
paper and abstract (2 copies) should be sent to Dr. Juri Gornostaev,
ICSC'94 Orgcom, 21-B, Kuusinen St., ICSTI, Moscow, 125252 Russia by
express mail (DHL, Federal Express, TNT, etc.). Fax:(7-095)943-0089,
e-mail:enir@ccic.icsti.msk.su
For obtaining an official invitation and visa please fill and
send the following form to the above given address.
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4. Passport No ..................................................
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6. Cities for visits ............................................
7. Date of arrival and departure ................................
8. Fax number ...................................................
------------------------------
From: jlundgre@ohlone.kn.PacBell.COM (John Lundgren)
Subject: Last Laugh! Telephone Connections as Explained on Usenet
Date: 15 Jul 94 03:31:22 GMT
Organization: Pacific Bell Knowledge Network
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: John Lundgren found this gem of wisdom
on some Usenet group somewhere and passed it along, adding some comments
of his own. I suppose it was one of the telecom newsgroups, but who knows.
The amount of misinformation circulating in the cesspool these days is
nothing short of astounding. Read it yourself and see how wild things have
gotten there. The ignorance of the two correspondents would be funny if
it were not so typical there. PAT]
Robert Macy (robert.macy@engineers.com) wrote:
: GT>I know there are two wires from the exchange to my house but there are
: GT>4 on a standard BT phone plug. Why the extra two? and how is the
: GT>ringer inside the phone activated? how does the exchange know when you
: GT>lift up the phone?
: Some say the four wires were used to confuse people and discourage them
: from attempting to wire their own telephones (in the old days)
WRONG. See below. BTW, You should be reading TELECOM Digest to get
the real info.
: Now just use the extra wires to add a second line.
: Note: the voltage from the telco should be polarized. The red and green
: wires are the main ones with red being negative with respect to the grn.
You better check that with a voltmeter. I think it's minus on the tip
or green wire.
: Old AT&T telephones with touch-tone need to have that voltage supplied
: to them properly, or the touch-tone pad won't work. New phones use a
: bridge rectifier and the polarity of the line doesn't matter.
: When your phone is ON-HOOK, the phone company supplies around 45 to 65
: Volts to it (looking for you to take some current). When you lift the
: handset, the current you pull is detected at the local telco switch
: station and a new power supply is connected to your line to power your
: phone. Yes, there is a short time you have no power to your phone. The
: "ON-LINE" power supply is something like 12 V in series with some
: resistance. That resistance is a function of the line distance out to
: your home.
THAT'S MISINFORMATION. The phone is powered from the same battery,
which is about 48VDC, when off hook. Part of the voltage drop is
across the relay coil, with the voltage across the phone depending on
how much current it draws. And it is supposed to be a current loop.
There is NO 'on-line power supply' other than the 48V battery.
: But the AC impedance is supposed to be 600 Ohms. The 600 Ohms is
: standard audio impedance which reduces echoes and allows for the
: creation of line amplifiers.
: Line amplifiers are a miraculous device that amplifies signals going
: along a two wire system. You can set the gain for a different level
: each direction. In other words, between your phone and mine (out in
: the middle of no where) it is possible to make a little amplifier that
: amplifies your signal, or my signal. All powered off the two lines
: themselves. Neat, huh?
BUT WRONG. The phone company used to put loading coils, which are a
88 millihenry inductor, in the line. This compensated for the
capacitance. In the U.S. they never put an amplifier on the line.
Why? Because if it drew any current, it would cause the CO to think
the phone was off the hook! And what kind of amplifier? Tubes?
Transistors? NO! This phone system was invented long before either
of them.
Today's subscriber lines may go into 'pair gain' equipment that
multiplexes the line along with 23 others onto a T1 carrier. It's
commonly called a SLIC. From there it goes back to the CO as a
digital bit stream. This equipment may be located in the neighborhood,
in an underground bunker like we have around here where I live.
: GT>If anyone can enlighten me I'd be very grateful, (I've looked around
: GT>for books etc but didn't find anything with real tech details).
: OLD books in the library have *all* the details. At least basic
: details, the actual techniques now used were implemented about 20 years
: ago when Captain Crunch and his followers got into everything and people
: were making "blue boxes" to call around the world for free.
: GT>If you could email info (as well as posting) that would be even better
: GT>as my news feed doesn't keep news for long.
: I swear this is true. Certain details of the telephone industry, if I
And I swear that you're WRONG if you're in the U.S.
: tell you how they work, I would be committing a felony (that's right, a
: felony). And *you* would be committing a felony for listening! How do
: you like them apples?
So I suppose it's against the law to read the Bell System Technical
Journal? You've got to be kidding!!!
What do you think we are, a bunch of chumps? NO WAY?!
: - Robert -
John Lundgren - Elec Tech - Info Tech Svcs
Rancho Santiago Community College District
17th St. at Bristol \ Santa Ana, CA 92706
jlundgre@pop.rancho.cc.ca.us\jlundgr@eis.calstate.edu
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And there you have it, straight from the
source of all true gospel, the Usenet. I'll bet you did not know my
publication of the Digest and your reading of it was illegal, did you?
And John, when you responded by telling him to read this Digest, did you
know you were encouraging him to commit a felony? <g> ...
Now I'll grant you, AT&T in years past never made any effort to explain
themselves to the general public, nor do they now. The most infamous case
of all was in the middle 1960's when {Ramparts Magazine} announced their
intention to publish the (then) formula used by Mother to construct calling
card check digits or 'proof of legitimacy key letters' in the next issue
of their magazine. Mother just about went crazy; she got a restraining
order in court at the last minute (the press run was complete and the
magazine was in distribution to newstands everywhere) preventing {Ramparts}
from giving out the information. All the copies in circulation had to
be recalled and handed over to The Telephone Company for shredding.
For those not familiar with it, {Ramparts} was an odd little magazine
published in Berkeley, California by a bunch of odd little people. They
were against the War, and all that, and devoted their magazine to things
designed to upset and embarass the establishment, not the least of which
was Ma Bell and her children. There is no such modern word as 'rampart' by
the way. It is an archaism last used in middle French/English dating from
about 1583 or so and it roughly translates in modern English to 'a hole dug
in the ground behind a large pile of dirt or behind a hill where one
can hide (in the hole) to watch one's enemies without being seen ...'.
The magazine took its name from the first stanza of {The Star Spangled
Banner} written by Francis Scott Key with its words, 'whose broad stripes
and bright stars / through the perilous night / from the ramparts we
watched / were so gallantly streaming ..'. The odd little soldiers
waged war against the War in their own way, and Ma Bell squashed them
when they offended her, sort of as one would swat a fly or step on a
cockroach. Does anyone know if {Ramparts} is still around? John, maybe the
writer of that snippet you sent from Usenet was thinking about {Ramparts}
when he said it is illegal to talk about Phone Company Secrets. PAT]
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Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
Re: USA Direct Question (John R Levine)
Re: USA Direct Question (Stefek Zaba)
Re: USA Direct Question (Clive D.W. Feather)
Re: USA Direct Question (Mike King)
Re: USA Direct Question (Richard Cox)
Re: USA Direct Question (Ole J. Jacobsen)
Re: Pager and Pager Network (Rob Lockhart)
Re: Pager and Pager Network (Dave Held)
Re: Caller-ID in Phoenix, AZ (James Taranto)
Re: Caller-ID in Phoenix, AZ (Larry Long)
Re: Pacific Bell Saves its Backside (Dave Held)
Re: Pacific Bell Saves its Backside (Paul S. Sawyer)
Re: NetWorld+Interop'94 Atlanta (Ole J. Jacobsen)
Re: Networld+Interop'94 Atlanta (Richard James)
Simple T1 WAN Networking (Aaron Jones)
CFP: Satellite Conference in Russia (mchenry@misvms.bpa.arizona.edu)
Last Laugh! Telephone Connections, as Explained on Usenet (John Lundgren)
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 23:25 EDT
From: johnl@iecc.com (John R Levine)
Subject: Re: USA Direct Question
Organization: I.E.C.C., Cambridge, Mass.
> AT&T says to dial "0500-89-0011". However in its directories and on
> London Underground maps British Telecom (BT) says that the number is
> "0800-89-0011". [and AT&T says to use the 0500 number]
I believe that 0800 is toll free via BT, while 0500 is toll free via
Mercury. Considering BT's recent deal with MCI, I'm not surprised
that AT&T would switch to their less expensive competitor.
Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, jlevine@delphi.com, 1037498@mcimail.com
------------------------------
From: sjmz@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Stefek Zaba)
Subject: Re: USA Direct Question
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 08:19:19 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, England
David G. Cantor (dgc@ccrwest.org) wrote:
> What is going on?
when telling about USA Direct being either an 0500 or an 0800 number.
The 0800 numbers are run by BT (British Telecom); the 0500 numbers
came in maybe a year ago, and are provided by BT's rival, Mercury.
Presumably AT&T used to used BT and switched to Mercury.
Cheers,
Stefek
------------------------------
Subject: Re: USA Direct Question
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 13:19:14 +0100 (BST)
From: Clive D.W. Feather <clive@sco.COM>
Quoth David Cantor:
> I was recently in England making calls to the US using the AT&T
> service "USA Direct". AT&T says to dial "0500-89-0011". However in
> its directories and on London Underground maps British Telecom (BT)
> says that the number is "0800-89-0011".
> When I dialed AT&T's USA Direct using the latter (BT) number, the AT&T
> operator asked me where I obtained the number, and then told me to use
> the first number instead.
0800 numbers are "free-to-caller" numbers provided by British Telecom.
0500 numbers are "free-to-caller" numbers provided by Mercury
Telecommunications. It would appear that AT&T are getting a better
deal from Hg than BT, and so have switched carriers.
"800 portability - what's that ?" :-(
Clive D.W. Feather | Santa Cruz Operation
clive@sco.com | Croxley Centre
Phone: +44 923 816 344 | Hatters Lane, Watford
Fax: +44 923 210 352 | WD1 8YN, United Kingdom
------------------------------
From: mk@TFS.COM (Mike King)
Subject: Re: USA Direct Question
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 23:42:38 PDT
In TELECOM Digest, V14 #320, David G. Cantor <dgc@ccrwest.org> asked:
> I was recently in England making calls to the US using the AT&T
> service "USA Direct". AT&T says to dial "0500-89-0011". However in
> it s directories and on London Underground maps British Telecom (BT)
> says that the number is "0800-89-0011".
The second number is older, using the BT network free number. The
former number uses the Mercury network free number. I understand it
has a lower per-minute charge when using USA Direct.
Mercury is the first competitive long distance service to enter the
British market. They have their own STD codes ("area codes") for each
service where they compete against BT.
Mike King mk@tfs.com
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 09:50:20 -0400
From: richard@mandarin.com
Subject: Re: USA Direct Question
We have LD competition over in England, too. But BT's 0800 numbers
arrived first, and AT&T got themselves one for USA direct. Then
Mercury came along with their equivalent (which used the 0500 code)
and AT&T got one of those numbers, too! Of course BT promote the
0800 number as it's their service and they get the revenue. AT&T
prefer you to call the 0500 number as AT&T have to pay for the inbound
call in order to connect you to the number you want -- and Mercury
charge them less than BT does!
Richard D G Cox
Mandarin Technology, PO Box 111, Penarth, South Glamorgan CF64 3YG
Voice: 0956 700111; Fax: 0956 700110; VoiceMail: 0941 151515
e-mail address: richard@mandarin.com; PGP2.6 public key on request
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 10:05:05 PDT
From: Ole J. Jacobsen <ole@CSLI.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Re: USA Direct Question
Yes, they are changing from 0800 to 0500. The reason is that the 0800
numbers belong to British Telecom which owns (part of?) MCI a direct
competitor to AT&T. The 0500 numbers are owned by the other carrier in
the UK, Mercury Communications hence the switch.
Last I was there I found that both numbers worked, but I guess they
are phasing out the 0800 number.
Ole J Jacobsen, Editor & Publisher, ConneXions--The Interoperability Report,
Interop Company, a division of ZD Expos, 303 Vintage Park Drive, Foster City,
CA 94404-1138, USA. Phone: +1 (415) 578-6988 Fax: +1 (415) 525-0194.
------------------------------
From: rlockhart@aol.com (RLockhart)
Subject: Re: Pager and Pager Network
Date: 18 Jul 1994 14:10:04 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
In article <telecom14.318.15@eecs.nwu.edu>, Curtis E. Reid
<CER2520@ritvax.isc.rit.edu> writes:
> Do you, TELECOM Digest readers, know of any other pager network
> companies in the U.S.A. that also offer TDD paging? If so, can you
> give me their name, address, contact, and phone number (TDD if
> possible)?
Probably one of the fastest ways to find such paging service providers
is by calling one of the manufacturers of such translating equipment.
One such manufacturer is TekNow in Phoenix, Arizona .. 602.266.7800.
TekNow makes a front end processor that, among other things,
translates from TDD to TAP, the alpha page entry protocol. Perhaps
they would be able to provide you with some background on the paging
service providers that use their equipment.
Another method would be to contact our Subscriber/Pan Am marketing
group. They have a marketer who specializes in such alpha services.
> On another track, Page New York says that a pager can only be used with
> a single page network company you subscribe to. Their rationale is
> that the pager frequency is specific to the company and is not
> transportable to another pager network company. Not like the way
> cellular phone company do. I told them I find it hard to believe
> because I'm sure there are a lot of people who travel frequently and
> would need to be paged wherever they are. Can anyone explain what
> exactly is the restriction on the pager for certain coverage?
Right constraint, wrong reason ... most pagers are limited to a
specific operating frequency because they are crystal-controlled. The
operating frequency is assigned to a specific carrier in a region and
they purchase pagers to operate on that frequency. Frequencies,
though, are reused by other carriers in different geographic areas
based on some rather specific FCC rules. Some times, these
geographically-separate carriers will band together to offer a
'roaming' service, but this doesn't happen very often.
If you travel frequently, perhaps you should consider one of the
regional or nationwide services.
Rob Lockhart, Resource Manager, Interactive Data Systems
Paging Products Group, Motorola, Inc.
Desktop I'net: lockhart-epag06_rob@email.mot.com
Wireless I'net (<32K characters): rob_lockhart-erl003e@email.mot.com
------------------------------
From: daveheld@delphi.com
Subject: Re: Pager and Pager Network
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 21:42:38 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
For the most part, a pager can be used only with the pager company
that issued it.
There are nationwide paging services that offer service in nearly all
major cities, so you can use your pager in any of those cities; but my
first statement is still true.
Dave
------------------------------
From: taranto@panix.com (James Taranto)
Subject: Re: Caller-ID in Phoenix, AZ
Date: 18 Jul 1994 01:07:10 GMT
Organization: The Bad Taranto
In article <telecom14.321.3@eecs.nwu.edu>, kreed@libre.com (Kevin W. Reed)
wrote:
> We are covered by US West here in Phoenix and recently, I hooked up
> two lines for Caller-ID. One voice line and and one of my data lines.
> I noticed pretty quickly that the only Caller-ID information that we
> were getting was from the Metropolitan Phoenix area only with everything
> else coming in as "OUT-OF-AREA".
> I thought this was a bit strange as others (in other States) have
> mentioned that they obtain Caller-ID information from other areas of
> the country on their units.
Most long-distance carriers do not carry Caller ID information.
Cheers,
James Taranto taranto@panix.com
------------------------------
From: llong@wiltel.com (Larry Long)
Subject: Re: Caller-ID in Phoenix, AZ
Date: 18 Jul 1994 17:50:55 GMT
Organization: Network Development
In article <telecom14.321.3@eecs.nwu.edu>, kreed@libre.com (Kevin W.
Reed) says:
> ... they said it was up to the long distance carrier to
> provide such information and the reason why we don't get it is because
> the callers are using a carrier that doesn't provide that information.
US West is telling you correctly. WilTel DOES provide caller ID
information. If you want to see it, for yourself provide me your
voice number and I will call you. My voice number is 918-588-5056.
------------------------------
From: daveheld@delphi.com
Subject: Re: Pacific Bell Saves its Backside
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 02:25:12 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
One of my telephone companies also changed its bill format, and,
similar to the above, printed a notice about how the new format would
save paper and trees. This notice was printed alone on its own sheet
of paper.
Dave
------------------------------
From: paul@senex.unh.edu (Paul S. Sawyer)
Subject: Re: Pacific Bell Saves its Backside
Date: 18 Jul 1994 11:03:06 GMT
Organization: UNH Telecommunications and Network Services
In article <telecom14.317.10@eecs.nwu.edu> Alan Millar <AMillar@bolis.
sf-bay.org> writes:
> My local phone company, Pacific Bell, started printing phone bills on
> both sides of the paper this month.
Ditto NYNEX, for a few months now. (Bicoastal fad?)
Paul S. Sawyer - University of New Hampshire CIS - Paul.Sawyer@UNH.Edu
Telecommunications and Network Services VOX: +1 603 862 3262
50 College Road FAX: +1 603 862 4545
Durham, New Hampshire 03824-3523
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 10:02:08 PDT
From: Ole J. Jacobsen <ole@CSLI.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Re: NetWorld+Interop'94 Atlanta
The show is September 12-16. Send your postal address to info@interop.com
for a program brochure, or check out http://programs.interop.com for
online information.
Ole J Jacobsen, Editor & Publisher, ConneXions--The Interoperability Report,
Interop Company, a division of ZD Expos, 303 Vintage Park Drive, Foster City,
CA 94404-1138, USA. Phone: +1 (415) 578-6988 Fax: +1 (415) 525-0194.
------------------------------
From: rjames@netcom.com (Richard James)
Subject: Re: Networld+Interop'94 Atlanta
Organization: Kia Ora Associates
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 22:14:43 GMT
In article <telecom14.318.12@eecs.nwu.edu>, atiwan@nwg.nectec.or.th
(Atiwan Prakobsantisukh) wrote:
> Does anyone have any details about the program they could share with me?
Try their WWW server which I think is at www.zdexpos.com.
The URL should be http://www.zdexpos.com.
rj
------------------------------
From: aoj@access2.digex.net (aaronjones)
Subject: Simple T1 WAN Networking
Date: 19 Jul 1994 00:24:01 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Greetings Y'all,
I have a client who has a T1 running between two points seperated by
approximately 1700 miles. They have a LAN at each one of the two
locations. The machines on the LANS are an assortment of Macs, Windows
PCs, and UNIX boxes (SCO, Solaris 2.3, Motorola 88/Open(yechh), and an
RS-6000 thrown in for good measure.
The machines on the LANs at both ends are running a mixture of TCP/IP,
The LANs are running a mixture of TCP/IP,IPX/SPX, and Ethertalk.
What they would like to do is (strangely enough) connect their LANs
together over the T1 circuit.
They would like to do so at the cheapest possible cost.
BTW, the T1 is currently sitting idle awaiting installation of a Frame
Relay network, but they need something _now_. I will not be receiving
any renumeration for this, but I would like to help out a friend.
Any advise as to how they might accomplish this would be greatly
appreciated.
Aaron Jones Ph: (416) 213-2040 <Witty thought of the day omitted>
InterAccess Consulting Fax:(416) 213-5760
Toronto, Ontario Email: aoj@digex.net
------------------------------
From: mchenry@misvms.bpa.arizona.edu
Subject: CFP: Satellite Conference in Russia
Date: 18 Jul 1994 09:47 MST
Organization: University of Arizona (BPA)
International Conference on Satellite Communications
ICSC'94
October 18-21, 1994 Moscow, Russia
Organizers
- Russian Popov Society for Radioengineering, Electronics and Communications
- Institute of Radioengineering and Electronics, Russian Academy of Sciences
- International Center for Scientific and Technical Information
- IEEE Russia Section
- IEEE Communications Society
- IEEE Region 8
- CSELT (Italy)
- TELESPAZIO (Italy)
In cooperation with:
* Ministry of Communications of Russia
* Russia Space Agency
* Regional Communication Administration of C.I.S.
* Russian-American Magazine "Networks"
* Research Radio Institute (Russia)
* Intergovernment International Organization On Space Communication
"Intersputnik"
* Joint Stock Company "Telecom" (Russia)
* Joint Stock Company "Maraphon-Earth" (Russia)
* Joint Stock Company "Informkosmos" (Russia)
* Research & Production Enterprise "Prikladnaya Mekhanika" (Russia)
* Research & Production Enterprise "Energia" (Russia)
* Space Research Institute, Russian Academy Of Sciences
* State Enterprise "Space Communication" (Russia)
* State Enterprise "Morsvyazsputnik" (Russia)
* Fund for Development of Telecommunication Systems Of Russia
* Moscow Research Radioengineering Institute (Russia)
* Moscow Research Institute For Radio Communications (Russia)
* International Academy Of Informatization (Department On Satellite
And Earth Communication Systems And Broadcasting)
SESSIONS OF THE CONFERENCE :
Session 1 -Satellite communication systems and broadcasting
Session 2- Platform launchers and space complex
Session 3- Technology and equipment for satellite
communications
Session 4- Satellite based systems with high elliptical and
low Earth orbits
Session 5- Satellite based systems for ecological monitoring
and navigation
Session 6- VSAT networking and data transmission
Session 7- Signal processing for satellite communications
PRELIMINARY PROGRAMME :
October 18,1994
Tuesday
10.00-14.00 Opening ceremony
Plenary session
14.00-15.00-Lunch
15.00-18.00-Sessions 1,5.
19.00 Cocktail-party
October 19,1994
Wednesday
9.00-13.00 Sessions 1,5
11.00-13.00 Sessions 4,7
13.00-15.00 Lunch
Discussion of poster papers (Sessions 1,4,5,7)
15.00-17.00 Sessions 4,7
17.00-18.00 Round table discussion
Session 6
October 20,1994
Thursday
9.00-13.00 Sessions 2,4.
11.00-13.00 Session 3
11.00-13.00 Round table discussion "Satellites with low Earth orbits"
13.00-15.00 Lunch
Discussion of poster papers (Sessions 2,3,6)
15.00-17.00 Closing ceremony
October 21,1994
Friday
10.00-17.00 Visits to research and space centers.
Visit to International Exhibition "NetCom94".
The International Technical Programme Committee has approved
Your paper...............................................
...............................................
for presenting at:
Plenary session
Session...........................................
poster paper discussion
The registration fee (300 $US) should be sent by October 1,1994 to
Bank Account:
ICSTI
acc.# 00107001147
Beneficiary's Bank: BANK "CREDIT-MOSCOW"
16, Gospitalnaya Sq.,
111250 Moscow, Russia
Intermediary Bank: The Bank of New York
48, Wall Street, NY NY 10286
acc. # 890-0057-033
The registration fee includes: visa support, hotel reservation, local
transport, sightseeing of Moscow with a guide, cocktail party, coffee
breaks, program and proceedings of the conference, business visits,
translation services, arrival and departure service.
The registration fee for accompanying persons (85 $US) includes visa
support, local transport, hotel reservation, cocktail party,
sightseeing of Moscow, arrival and departure services.
Deadline for Your paper in camera-ready format is August 15,1994. The
paper and abstract (2 copies) should be sent to Dr. Juri Gornostaev,
ICSC'94 Orgcom, 21-B, Kuusinen St., ICSTI, Moscow, 125252 Russia by
express mail (DHL, Federal Express, TNT, etc.). Fax:(7-095)943-0089,
e-mail:enir@ccic.icsti.msk.su
For obtaining an official invitation and visa please fill and
send the following form to the above given address.
1. Name ........................................................
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3. Date of birth ................................................
4. Passport No ..................................................
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6. Cities for visits ............................................
7. Date of arrival and departure ................................
8. Fax number ...................................................
------------------------------
From: jlundgre@ohlone.kn.PacBell.COM (John Lundgren)
Subject: Last Laugh! Telephone Connections as Explained on Usenet
Date: 15 Jul 94 03:31:22 GMT
Organization: Pacific Bell Knowledge Network
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: John Lundgren found this gem of wisdom
on some Usenet group somewhere and passed it along, adding some comments
of his own. I suppose it was one of the telecom newsgroups, but who knows.
The amount of misinformation circulating in the cesspool these days is
nothing short of astounding. Read it yourself and see how wild things have
gotten there. The ignorance of the two correspondents would be funny if
it were not so typical there. PAT]
Robert Macy (robert.macy@engineers.com) wrote:
: GT>I know there are two wires from the exchange to my house but there are
: GT>4 on a standard BT phone plug. Why the extra two? and how is the
: GT>ringer inside the phone activated? how does the exchange know when you
: GT>lift up the phone?
: Some say the four wires were used to confuse people and discourage them
: from attempting to wire their own telephones (in the old days)
WRONG. See below. BTW, You should be reading TELECOM Digest to get
the real info.
: Now just use the extra wires to add a second line.
: Note: the voltage from the telco should be polarized. The red and green
: wires are the main ones with red being negative with respect to the grn.
You better check that with a voltmeter. I think it's minus on the tip
or green wire.
: Old AT&T telephones with touch-tone need to have that voltage supplied
: to them properly, or the touch-tone pad won't work. New phones use a
: bridge rectifier and the polarity of the line doesn't matter.
: When your phone is ON-HOOK, the phone company supplies around 45 to 65
: Volts to it (looking for you to take some current). When you lift the
: handset, the current you pull is detected at the local telco switch
: station and a new power supply is connected to your line to power your
: phone. Yes, there is a short time you have no power to your phone. The
: "ON-LINE" power supply is something like 12 V in series with some
: resistance. That resistance is a function of the line distance out to
: your home.
THAT'S MISINFORMATION. The phone is powered from the same battery,
which is about 48VDC, when off hook. Part of the voltage drop is
across the relay coil, with the voltage across the phone depending on
how much current it draws. And it is supposed to be a current loop.
There is NO 'on-line power supply' other than the 48V battery.
: But the AC impedance is supposed to be 600 Ohms. The 600 Ohms is
: standard audio impedance which reduces echoes and allows for the
: creation of line amplifiers.
: Line amplifiers are a miraculous device that amplifies signals going
: along a two wire system. You can set the gain for a different level
: each direction. In other words, between your phone and mine (out in
: the middle of no where) it is possible to make a little amplifier that
: amplifies your signal, or my signal. All powered off the two lines
: themselves. Neat, huh?
BUT WRONG. The phone company used to put loading coils, which are a
88 millihenry inductor, in the line. This compensated for the
capacitance. In the U.S. they never put an amplifier on the line.
Why? Because if it drew any current, it would cause the CO to think
the phone was off the hook! And what kind of amplifier? Tubes?
Transistors? NO! This phone system was invented long before either
of them.
Today's subscriber lines may go into 'pair gain' equipment that
multiplexes the line along with 23 others onto a T1 carrier. It's
commonly called a SLIC. From there it goes back to the CO as a
digital bit stream. This equipment may be located in the neighborhood,
in an underground bunker like we have around here where I live.
: GT>If anyone can enlighten me I'd be very grateful, (I've looked around
: GT>for books etc but didn't find anything with real tech details).
: OLD books in the library have *all* the details. At least basic
: details, the actual techniques now used were implemented about 20 years
: ago when Captain Crunch and his followers got into everything and people
: were making "blue boxes" to call around the world for free.
: GT>If you could email info (as well as posting) that would be even better
: GT>as my news feed doesn't keep news for long.
: I swear this is true. Certain details of the telephone industry, if I
And I swear that you're WRONG if you're in the U.S.
: tell you how they work, I would be committing a felony (that's right, a
: felony). And *you* would be committing a felony for listening! How do
: you like them apples?
So I suppose it's against the law to read the Bell System Technical
Journal? You've got to be kidding!!!
What do you think we are, a bunch of chumps? NO WAY?!
: - Robert -
John Lundgren - Elec Tech - Info Tech Svcs
Rancho Santiago Community College District
17th St. at Bristol \ Santa Ana, CA 92706
jlundgre@pop.rancho.cc.ca.us\jlundgr@eis.calstate.edu
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And there you have it, straight from the
source of all true gospel, the Usenet. I'll bet you did not know my
publication of the Digest and your reading of it was illegal, did you?
And John, when you responded by telling him to read this Digest, did you
know you were encouraging him to commit a felony? <g> ...
Now I'll grant you, AT&T in years past never made any effort to explain
themselves to the general public, nor do they now. The most infamous case
of all was in the middle 1960's when {Ramparts Magazine} announced their
intention to publish the (then) formula used by Mother to construct calling
card check digits or 'proof of legitimacy key letters' in the next issue
of their magazine. Mother just about went crazy; she got a restraining
order in court at the last minute (the press run was complete and the
magazine was in distribution to newstands everywhere) preventing {Ramparts}
from giving out the information. All the copies in circulation had to
be recalled and handed over to The Telephone Company for shredding.
For those not familiar with it, {Ramparts} was an odd little magazine
published in Berkeley, California by a bunch of odd little people. They
were against the War, and all that, and devoted their magazine to things
designed to upset and embarass the establishment, not the least of which
was Ma Bell and her children. There is no such modern word as 'rampart' by
the way. It is an archaism last used in middle French/English dating from
about 1583 or so and it roughly translates in modern English to 'a hole dug
in the ground behind a large pile of dirt or behind a hill where one
can hide (in the hole) to watch one's enemies without being seen ...'.
The magazine took its name from the first stanza of {The Star Spangled
Banner} written by Francis Scott Key with its words, 'whose broad stripes
and bright stars / through the perilous night / from the ramparts we
watched / were so gallantly streaming ..'. The odd little soldiers
waged war against the War in their own way, and Ma Bell squashed them
when they offended her, sort of as one would swat a fly or step on a
cockroach. Does anyone know if {Ramparts} is still around? John, maybe the
writer of that snippet you sent from Usenet was thinking about {Ramparts}
when he said it is illegal to talk about Phone Company Secrets. PAT]
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TELECOM Digest Tue, 19 Jul 94 00:26:00 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 325
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
East TN to Get New Area Code (David Marks)
Remote Network Access? (Seth B. Rothenberg)
ISLIP 94 -- Second CFP (R. Jagannathan)
List of 703 -> 540 Exchanges (Paul Robinson)
Tricks That LD Companies Play (Dave Ptasnik)
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AT&T's New Overseas Transmitting Facility - An Update (Dave Niebuhr)
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Come to Work For AirTouch (Michael Caniglia)
Fraudulent 800 Number Sex Line Charges (Joe Kukulka)
Help and Information Wanted About Republic of Korea (Xiaoweng Fu)
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More Blatent Commercialism - Hello Direct on WWW (Mark W. Earle)
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From: tijc02!djm408@uunet.uu.net (David Marks)
Subject: East TN to Get New Area Code
Organization: Siemens Industrial Automation, Johnson City TN
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 19:28:01 GMT
East TN, that area of the world that includes Chattanooga, Knoxville,
and the Tri-Cities (Kingsport, Bristol, and Johnson City), will be
getting a new area code as of Jan. 1st, 1996. This was reported in the
Johnson City Press, Thursday, July 14, 1994. The actual code has not
been determined yet: they are leaning towards 249, but 931 is also
possible. They would rather use 249 than 931, as 931 might be confused
with 901 currently used for West TN: the area containing Memphis.
Middle TN would still use 615 (it contains Nashville). When the new
area code becomes dialable, and how long permissive dialing will be
allowed was not reported. The exact boundaries were also not reported.
The article stated that they are doing this as faxes, modems, etc.
will soon use up all available numbers in the 615 area code. This has
happened pretty quickly, as last year they went from 1+7 dialing of
long distance within 615 to 1+3+7 for all inter-lata long distance
inside 615 for the very same reason and are soon run out of the
numbers that were freed up by that.
David J. Marks | UUCP: ...!uunet!tijc02!djm408
Siemens Industrial Automation, Inc. | Internet: djm408%tijc02@uunet.uu.net
P.O. Drawer 1255 | Phone: 615-461-2074
Johnson City, TN 37605-1255 |
------------------------------
From: rothen+@pitt.edu (Seth B Rothenberg)
Subject: Remote Network Access?
Date: 18 Jul 1994 22:03:40 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
My Telecommunications Applications class (in the Master of Telecomm
program here) is charged with helping the University determine how
students, faculty, and staff will access the net from home.
We have determined thus far that high-speed modem pools of POTS lines
will continue to be the principle access method. (Ie, we will continue
to have racks of modems and lots of copper coming in). SLIP is or
will be available in the modem pool.
We are also interested in ISDN and any other access method. We have
not heard of any such 'production' use. We would likely use a UNIX
machine as a security gate for the network, direct from the ISDN. Any
advice/stories are welcome/appreciated.
Thanks,
Seth Rothenberg
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 13:53:05 PDT
From: R. Jagannathan <jagan@csl.sri.com>
Reply-To: <jagan@csl.sri.com>
Subject: ISLIP 94 -- Second CFP
CALL FOR EXTENDED ABSTRACTS
ISLIP '94
Seventh International Symposium
on Lucid and Intensional Programming
September 26-27, 1994
SRI International, Menlo Park, California
(in the San Francisco Bay Area)
We invite you to submit BY E-MAIL an extended abstract describing your
research contribution. The topics include but are not limited to:
* Intensional logic in Computing Science
* Semantics (non-determinism, extended Kahn principle)
* Program Verification and Transformation
* Programming paradigms
(dataflow, connectionism, and logic programming)
* Software Engineering
(version control, visual user interfaces)
* Sequential and parallel computing models and their implementations
* Real-time and Fault-tolerant Systems
* User Applications (signal and image processing, graphics, software tools)
SUBMISSION PROCESS:
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DATES:
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in the sense that selection will be made of final papers that we hope
will together make up a special issue of a journal or a book.
For further information, contact Ed Ashcroft (address above), or
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 21:26:34 EDT
From: Paul Robinson <PAUL@TDR.COM>
Reply-To: Paul Robinson <PAUL@TDR.COM>
Subject: List of 703 -> 540 Exchanges
Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA
Based on some requests I have received, here is a list of the prefixes
that will change from area code 703 to 540, effective July 15, 1995:
220 223 224 225 226 228 230 231 232 234 236 238 245 248 249 251 253 254
258 259 261 262 265 268 269 270 279 286 289 291 297 298 320 322 326 328
332 333 334 336 337 338 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 362
363 364 365 366 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 380 381 382 383 384 386 387
388 389 390 395 396 398 399 420 423 427 429 432 432 433 434 436 439 443
445 452 456 459 495 496 498 499 520 523 529 530 531 542 543 544 546 547
552 554 559 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 570 574 576 579 580 582 586
587 592 593 597 599 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 632 633 634 635
636 637 638 639 645 646 647 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 662 663 665 666
667 668 669 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 682 686 687 688 694 699 721
722 723 726 727 728 729 731 732 738 740 743 744 745 747 752 755 762 763
766 770 771 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 782 783 785 786 788 789 794
796 822 825 828 829 831 832 833 835 837 839 840 852 853 854 856 857 858
859 861 862 863 864 865 867 868 869 870 871 872 873 877 879 880 881 882
884 885 886 887 888 889 890 891 894 895 896 897 898 899 921 923 925 926
928 929 930 932 933 935 937 939 940 942 943 944 945 946 947 948 949 951
952 953 955 956 957 961 962 963 964 965 966 967 969 972 973 977 980 981
982 983 984 985 986 987 988 989 991 992 994 995 996 997 999
Paul Robinson - Paul@TDR.COM
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From: davep@u.washington.edu (Dave Ptasnik)
Subject: Tricks That LD Companies Play
Date: 17 Jul 1994 22:10:00 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
The recent thread about some of the early sins of long distance
companies brought two of my favorite to mind.
It was not uncommon (might still be common now, but I am out of the
biz) for alternate (non-AT&T) companies to charge for the rings. They
would hide this by always having six second billing AFTER the first
minute. Here's how it worked. Lets assume ten rings per minute, one
every six seconds. You have signed up with a new long distance carrier,
No-Tell. You call grandma. Grandma takes a long time to answer, so
you let it ring fifteen times.
With AT&T and No-Tell, if Grandma doesn't answer you don't get billed.
Both have answer supervision. Let's say Grandma does answer, talks to
you for 20 seconds, then forgets she is on the phone and hangs up.
With AT&T you would be billed for a one minute call. With No-Tell you
would expect a one minute call, but instead you get a 1.8 minute call.
1.5 minutes of rings, and a third of a minute of talk. Voila, you are
retroactively billed for all rings as soon as a call supervises. You
have to keep pretty close track of your bill to catch that one.
Trick number two: In a former life I worked for an LD company that
found itself in financial trouble. We'll call it No-Tell, again.
Some hotshot fixers were hired, and the first thing they did was raise
every rate in the switch by two cents per minute. From one side of
the country to the other, not that big an impact. From one side of
the county to the other (what a difference a letter makes), a night
weekend rate of two cents per minute shot up to four cents a minute,
making it one cent a minute higher than AT&T. All No-Tell bills
showed clients how much they saved vs. AT&T. Residential bills were
saying things like, By Using No-Tell You Saved -3.25. That's right,
our bills were showing how much more they spent with No-Tell than they
would have spent with AT&T. How did the hotshots deal with this?
They raised the AT&T rates by two cents per minute. That's right, our
bills just plain lied about the AT&T rates. That was when I quit that
job, and started selling yellow page ads. But that is a different
story ;).
Dave Ptasnik davep@u.washington.edu
------------------------------
From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 12:34:54 -0700
Subject: Headline "800 Purveyor Faces Obscenity Charge"
A severely truncated article datelined Montgomery, Ala. was in today's
paper. Says Mark Carriere of Los Angeles, operator of Mark III
Entertainment, an 800[sic] sex-talk "service" is going on trial in
Alabama. Identifies the prosecutor as Asst. Attorney General Bruce
Lieberman, who works for someone named Evans, otherwise unidentified.
Says other 1-800 services "may soon be dialing up a court date."
I'm wondering about parallels between this case and one that is being
talked about a lot lately on the net. In the latter a San Jose
computer BBS operator is being tried in Tennessee on porn charges.
Now in this case it seems that a federal court in California has held
that what the BBS operator is doing is not illegal; but the federal
court in Tennessee is claiming that it is illegal there, and since
some Tennessee citizens accessed his BBS he can be prosecuted there.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 17:24:48 -0500
From: Peter Eisch <peter@nevis.umhc.umn.edu>
Subject: Anyone Use NT Magellan Switches?
Reply-To: peisch@cfa.org
I'm about to 'take off ' to Ottawa for Magellan training for the MAS
and Passport/DPN-100 products. Our implementation is for an IP data
network and we're pretty disappointed with the throughput of the MAS
product (can't handle a DS1 circuit) though it has an embedded Cisco
2501 router.
Where we're going to put the MAS products, wouldn't it be better to
put in just the Cisco router with a frame relay interface and use the
full DS1 (the cost difference between DS0 and DS1 is negligible in our
market)? The NT sales got all huffy when this was suggested as he saw
his comission drift away.
The NT engineers we've been talking with don't seem to have a clue
about IP networks and I'm learning about trunking and things. Are we
asking for trouble?
Anyone using such devices, please comfort me that the NT sales folks
aren't just selling hardware to line their pocket book.
peter peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peisch@cfa.org
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 13:55:58 EDT
From: Dave Niebuhr <NIEBUHR@BNLCL6.BNL.GOV>
Subject: AT&T's New Overseas Transmitting Facility - An Update
Last year, I reported that AT&T had filed a tariff to build an
overseas cable plant going from Shirley, Long Island, New York, to
France.
I went by there a little while ago while taking my son and some of his
friends to the ocean beach and am offering this update.
The building is up and has been for several months; cable, inside
conduit, is laid from there to almost where it will have to go
underwater to cross the Great South Bay, thence across Fire Island
between or near the border of Smith Point County Park and the Fire
Island National Seashore.
Near the northern edge of the bay, the conduit is above ground and is
on what looks to be temporary supports although the currently southern
end dips back into the ground.
The contractors, some local, some from other areas in New York and
some from other states are all involved. A former campground for the
County Park has been turned into a staging area for various types of
equipment, most notably tankers containing thousands of gallons of
potable water. The place is a beehive of activity.
It should be noted that New York, Long Island in general and Suffolk
County in particular has not even begun to recover from the
devistating effects of the last recession. Unemployment is at its
still record high and this work is a major boost to our, meaning my
hamlet's and two other adjacent one's economies. Yes some of the
money will leave the local area; however, we are willing to take any
jobs-producing work that we can get.
Hat's off to AT&T for selecting the site for its new overseas cable
plant in an area that will indirectly benefit many in the future
through the taxes that will be paid on the building and its equipment.
Dave Niebuhr Internet: dwn@dwn.ccd.bnl.gov
niebuhr@bnlcl6.bnl.gov (preferred)
niebuhr@bnl.gov / Bitnet: niebuhr@bnl
Senior Technical Specialist, Scientific Computing Facility
Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton, NY 11973 1+(516) 282-3093
FAX 1+(516) 282-7688
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From: sraja@hollywood.cinenet.net (Suresh Rajagopalan)
Subject: Looking for Fractional T1/Full T1 CSU/DSU's
Date: 18 Jul 1994 15:32:38 -0700
Organization: Cinenet Communications, Internet Access, Santa Monica
I am looking for csu/dsu's that can handle sppeds from fractional t1
(128k) to full t1. I guess this is referred to as a multirate CSU/DSU
Thanks,
Suresh Rajagopalan
CineNet Communications -- Internet Connectivity in Los Angeles
Shell, SLIP/PPP, 56k. info@cinenet.net / 310-399-4421
------------------------------
From: de@moscom.com (David Esan)
Subject: Area Code Splits
Date: 18 Jul 94 19:18:42 GMT
Organization: Moscom Corporation, Pittsford NY
I know of the following seven area codes splits:
Existing New
205 334
206 360
602 520
713 281
XXX 562
708 630
703 540
I have recently heard a rumor that 813 is going to split in May 1995.
Did I miss an article? Are there any others that I may have missed?
Thanks,
David Esan de@moscom.com
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think you are going to find that when
the change becomes official next year, there will be a huge rush of new
area codes coming up all over the place, making it difficult or impossible
for most people to keep track of them. Carl Moore regularly prepares a
history of area code splits and I suspect next year will be a very busy
one indeed for him. I post them as I get them, and I suspect by next year
this time there will be places that have split even after their original
split. Take for example our split to 708 from 312 here a few years ago.
Now we are going to have 630 as well. Its going to get crazy. PAT]
------------------------------
From: ada@nic.cerf.net
Subject: SONET Chip Sets
Date: 18 Jul 1994 21:40:43 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Net friends:
Do any of you net folk know of any off-the-shelf SONET interface
chips? I am looking for transport and path overhead terminators and
in particular, a DS3 mapper. Any help would be appreciated. I have
already found PMC-Sierra and Transwitch. Any others?
Thanks in advance,
Mark (lever@ada.com)
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 16:33:28 PDT
From: caniglia@la.AirTouch.COM (Michael Caniglia)
Subject: Come to Work For AirTouch
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design and operation exposure preferred.
RADIO FREQUENCY ENGINEERS
Radio Frequency design and operation of AirTouch Cellular's cellular
system. Determines network and subsystem enhancements and
modifications necessary to accommodate the forecasted subscriber
growth and maintain interference within acceptable levels. Also
determine tolerances and operational parameters for cell sites, and
growth provisioning for existing sites. Requires BSEE, Physics,
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experience including familiarity with cellular system design and
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SEARCH FIRMS PLEASE.
------------------------------
From: jzk@crl.com (Joe Kukulka)
Subject: Fraudulent 800 Number Sex Line Charges
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 22:35:20 -0800
Organization: CRL on San Francisco Bay
A buddy of mine called a supposedly free sex line. After an initial
preamble, he was told to enter a code on his phone that would give him
free time. He entered the number, and the other end shortly hung up
without providing him with anything. A month later, he gets a charge
on his Pacific Bell phone bill for $30 for two minutes connect time to
"Network Information Services" or some such. He tried the 800 number
from a pay phone, and instead of giving him an access code, it instructed
him to dial a number beginning with 011.
Today, on the NBC nightly news, they ran an item concerning this very
problem. They explained that, because it was an 800 number, that the
called party is able to get your phone number (this I already knew).
What they did not explain is why a telephone company will bill a
customer on the basis of a request from some called party with an 800
number. Is this some new service? Apparently, Nynex has discontinued
such charges. The item said that even if Congress enacts lecgislation
to outlaw this sort of fraud, that the companies will just move off
shore.
Any clues?
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Telephone Information Providers can
contract with telco to do thier billing for them; they usually do it
however through a firm such as Integratel which is already set up for
that purpose and which has the billing equipment and procedures already
in place. PAT]
------------------------------
From: wu@uni1.fernuni-hagen.de (WUXIAO)
Subject: Help and Information Wanted About Republic of Korea
Date: 18 Jul 1994 13:15:32 GMT
Organization: FernUniversitt Hagen
Hello everyone,
I am looking for Information about the Telecom Infrastructure and
Industry in South Korea. Any help would be appreciated.
Xiaofeng Wu
Please send your mail to: wu@uni1.fernuni-hagen.de
------------------------------
From: csa@bones.et.byu.edu (CSA)
Subject: Technical Information Wanted on Caller ID
Date: 18 Jul 94 16:58:26
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
I have a caller ID module that outputs serial data. Does anybody know
the format of the data? Is it ASCII or mixed?
Thanks,
Scott
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 11:00:00 -0700
From: mwearle@netcom.com (Mark W. Earle)
Subject: More Blatent Commercialism - Hello Direct on WWW
Pat,
If you'd like another example of blatent commercialism of the net :-) :-)
Hello Direct's catalog is available to mosaic users at:
url http://www.hello-direct.com/hd/
Also, they have an email account on Compuserve, which would be
74577.425@compuserve.com from the Internet.
In their catalog, they have a new 900 Mhz cordless headset. No mention
if it's spread spectrum, digital, or analog.
Mark Earle mwearle@netcom.com
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Hello Direct is a great company with
some good deals where telecom stuff is concerned, although I sometimes
think their prices are a little high. USA readers can call them to get
on their mailing list by dialing 1-800-HI-HELLO. Regards their blatant
commercialisation of the net, I hope they do better at it than I did
with the Orange Cards and Telepassport stuff. I still get a tiny check
every month or so from Orange on the commissions from people I signed
up who use the card. A couple of the telecom firms I sold stuff for did
not ever pay anything at all; it seems they are as good at ripping off
thier sales reps as they are at lying to their customers. PAT]
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From: yonsei@usenet.hana.nm.kr (Yonsei News Adm)
Subject: Call For Papers ICCC95
Date: 19 Jul 1994 19:08:49 +1000
Organization: HANAnet Operating Centre(KTRC)
Following is the FIRST CALL FOR PAPER for ICCC'95 to be held in Seoul
Korea 1995.
CALL FOR PAPERS
ICCC '95
"Information Highways for a Smaller World & Better Living"
Seoul, Korea
August 21 - 24, 1995
The ICCC, the International Council for Computer Communication (ICCC),
founded in 1972, is an Affiliate Member of the International
Federation for Information Processing (IFIP).
Its purposes are to foster:
scientific research and the development of computer communication;
progress in the evaluation of applications of computer communication
to educational, scientific, medical, economic, legal, cultural and
other peaceful purposes;
study of the potential social and economic impacts of computer
communcation and of policies which influence those impacts.
This 12th conference aims at providing a forum to exchange ideas,
discuss key issues and to present the late research results for
"Information Highways for a Smaller World & Better Living." The main
program includes technical presentations, invited talks, tutorials,
and technical visits.
TOPICS : Areas of interest include but are not limited to
Strategies, Policies, and User Wireless Communications
Perspectives of Information Intelligent Networks
Superhighways Personal Communications Systems
Social and Economical Impacts Broadband Communication
of Information Superhighways ATM Switching
Computer Communication for International Emergencies
Developing Countries Distance Learning
Network Planning Optical Communications
Security and Privacy in Computer Multimedia Communication and its
Communications Applications
Evolution towards the High-Speed High-Speed Protocols
Networks including Frame Relay Network Management
and SMDS Protocol Engineering
Packet Radio Technologies Satellite Communications
SUBMISSION OF PAPERS
Prospective authors should send five copies of a full paper to the
following address:
ICCC'95
Dr. Seon Jong Chung
ICCC'95 Technical Program Chairman
ETRI, Yusong P.O.Box 106, Taejon, Korea, 305-606
Tel: +82-42-860-8630
Fax: +82-42-860-6465
E-mail: iccc95@giant.etri.re.kr
The manuscript should not exceed 4000 words in length and should
include author's name, affiliation, and addresses(telephone, e-mail,
fax), and 150-200 words abstracts in the title page. Also, authors are
encouraged to send a Postscript version of their full paper to the
Technical Program Committee Chairman by e-mail iccc95@giant.etri.re.kr
|-------------------------------|
| Important Dates |
| Submission of Paper |
| February 1st, 1995 |
| Notification of Acceptance |
| May 1st, 1995 |
| Camera-ready Papers |
| June 15th, 1995 |
|-------------------------------|
Sponsored by
The International Council for Computer Communication
Hosted by
Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute
Korea Information Science Society
Under the Patronage of
Ministry of Communication, The Republic of Korea
Conference Governor
Ronald P.Uhlig, Northern Telecom, U.S.A.
Conference Organizing Committee
Chair : Chongsun Hwang, KISS, Korea
Co-Chair : Seungtaik Yang, ETRI, Korea
Local Arrangement
Dongho Lee, Kwangwoon Unvi., Korea
Publication
Keosang Lee, Dacom, Korea
Publicity
Jaiyong Lee, Yon-Sei Univ., Korea
Registration
Samyoung Suh, NCA, Korea
Treasurer
Seungkyu Park, Ajou Univ., Korea
Tutorial
Sunshin An, Korea Univ., Korea
Social Program
Nosik Kim, KTRC, Korea
Secretariate
Yanghee Choi, SNU, Korea
Jinpyo Hong, ETRI, Korea
Technical Program
Chair : Seonjong Chung, ETRI, Korea
Co-Chairs : Serge Fdida, MASI, France
Nicholas Georganas, Univ. of Otawa, Canada
Roger Needham, Univ. of Cambridge, U.K.
Otto Spaniol, Aachen Tech. Univ., Germany
Hideyoshi Tominaga, Waseda Univ., Japan
Pramode Verma, AT&T, U.S.A.
Members : Byungchul Shin, KAIST, Korea
Yongjin Park, Hanyang Univ., Korea
Donggyoo Kim, Ajou Univ., Korea
Kwangsue Chung, Kwangwoon Univ., Korea
Daeyoung Kim, Cheoungnam National Univ., Korea
Ilyoung Chung, ETRI, Korea
Chimoon Han, ETRI, Korea
Woojik Chon, ETRI, Korea
Hoon Choi, ETRI, Korea
Tadao Saito, Tokyo Univ., Japan
Tahahiko Kamae, HP Lab., Japan
Reigo Yatsuboshi, Fujitsu Lab., Japan
Kinji Ono, NCIS, Japan
Michael Diaz, LAAS, France
Christophie Diot, INRIA, France
Georgio Ventre, Univ. di Napoli, France
David Hutchison, Lonchaster Univ., U.K.
Augusto Casaca, IST-INESC, Spain
Martina Zitterbart, Univ. of Karlsiuhe, Germany
Ulf Koerner, Lund Univ., Sweden
Albert Kuendig, Swiss Federal Inst. of Tech., Swiss
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 12:29:00 +1000
From: JOHN.HACKING@telecom.telememo.au
Subject: Australian InfoCall Service Launched
People seeking fast, expert advice on subjects ranging from the state
of their health to the state of the nation now have access to it over
the telephone.
InfoCall is a telephone information service featuring "live" advice.
InfoCall, which uses a 190 prefix, is available to all customers in
Australia who currently receive itemised bills from Telecom for STD
and international calls.
Callers will be able to speak to an increasing number of experts
including doctors, lawyers, gardening gurus, veterinarians and various
tradespeople.
They can also access recorded voice information services, receive
information via a fax or have information downloaded to a desktop
computer.
InfoCall was today launched nationally following a pilot program in
Victoria which confirmed the service's technical functionality and its
acceptability in the marketplace.
"This is the sort of service which only an advanced telecommunications
network can provide," said Martin Turner, Telecom National Portfolio
Manager for Telemedia.
"Telecom's network enables service providers to tailor services more
and more to meet individual needs and the clear message from our
customer research is that customers want access to information on
their own terms.
"The telephone allows them that access, and the InfoCall service
brings it to them in the privacy of their homes and offices."
Telecom has provided over 150 InfoCall lines and service providers
have indicated their strong intention to provide a wide range of
services over the coming weeks.
These services will include information on the stock market, weather
reports, study tips, computer software support, ticket bookings, state
industrial awards, average real estate prices, racing, gardening and
wedding and legal advice.
Service providers' charges will range from a flat rate of 35cents to
$30 or at a timed rate, ranging from an average of 35 cents to $5 per
minute.
Telecom has worked with consumer groups and service providers to
ensure that customer safeguards are in place. At the start of every
service, customers receive an introductory message explaining exactly
what the service is and the charge rate.
The message introduction costs 15 cents and no further charges can be
applied until the caller dials a number to activate the chosen
InfoCall service.
Callers hear a pip tone every five minutes on timed-fee live advice
services and are asked to dial a number if they want to proceed beyond
ten minutes on timed-fee recorded voice services. The caller can
terminate the service at any time by hanging up.
Households and businesses can have InfoCall barred so access cannot be
gained from their telephone. Details about barring the service can be
obtained by calling the InfoCall Helpline on Freecall 1800 035 055.
A test call to 1900 909 000 will indicate to customers whether they
can access InfoCall. They can also obtain more information on the
InfoCall Helpline.
MELBOURNE Australia
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 08:39:51 CET
Subject: Re: Recommendations For Lightning Protection
From: lagrana@itu.ch (Fernando Lagrana)
Organization: International Telecommunication Union
The Telecommunication Standardization Sector of the ITU (ITU-T)
developed a whole set of Recommendations relative to Protection
against interference (K-Series).
The following Recommendations are of particular relevance for lightning
protection:
K.1 Connection to earth of an audio-frequency line in cable
K.11 Principles of protection against overvoltages and overcurrents
K.21 Resistibility of subscribers' terminals to overvoltages and
overcurrents
K.22 Overvoltage resistibility of equipment connected to an ISDN T/S bus
K.25 Lightning protection of optical fibre cables
K.31 Bonding configurations and earthing of telecommunication
installations inside a subscriber's building
Fernando Lagrana
International Telecommunication Union
Telecommunication Standardization Bureau
Editor, Catalogue of Recommmendations
Internet: lagrana@itu.ch
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From: whs70@cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h)
Subject: Re: Baud vs. bps
Date: 19 Jul 1994 01:01:14 -0400
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
In article <telecom14.320.12@eecs.nwu.edu>, Hugh Pritchard
<hpritcha@snm.com> wrote:
> Now, I'm willing to accept that the copper phone wires will only
> handle 2400 baud, and that the modem makers have come up with ways to
> signify 6 bits (14,400 is 6 times 2400) for each different state
> change. The modem makers have come up with 2 to the 6th = 64
> different states (some combination of frequencies, phases, and phase
> changes) to fit into the 2400 baud limit.
Actually the copper wires will pass much higher rates. The limitation
is the design of the network facilities (especially the inter-office
trunking) which will only pass an analog signal within the 300 to 3000
KHz range. Modem makers must design their analog modems to operate
within that 300-3000KHz range.
So, with those analog limitations, modem manufacturers have been able
to develope modems that go up to 28.8KHz while still having the entire
signal within the 300-3000KHz range.
Bill Sohl (K2UNK) BELLCORE (Bell Communications Research, Inc.)
Morristown, NJ email via UUCP bcr!cc!whs70
201-829-2879 Weekdays email via Internet whs70@cc.bellcore.com
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From: hpa@eecs.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
Subject: Re: Baud vs. bps
Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
Organization: United Federation of Planets
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 17:35:03 GMT
In <telecom14.320.12@eecs.nwu.edu>, Hugh Pritchard <hpritcha@snm.com>
wrote:
> Now, I'm willing to accept that the copper phone wires will only
> handle 2400 baud, and that the modem makers have come up with ways to
> signify 6 bits (14,400 is 6 times 2400) for each different state
> change. The modem makers have come up with 2 to the 6th = 64
> different states (some combination of frequencies, phases, and phase
> changes) to fit into the 2400 baud limit.
That's basically the idea. However, in order to obtain even further
noise resistance, they actually use 128 states, only 64 of which are
valid at any one time. This is called "trellis coding", because the
amplitude/phase plots(*) of the valid states look somewhat like a
flower trellis.
I would presume that V.34 (28,800 bps) would use 8192 states at the
minimum, 4096 of which would be valid at any one time (whew!).
The Nyquist limit of an analog phone line is somewhere in the
vincinity of 32 kbps. If not otherwise it would be dictated by the
fact that it will be digitized to 64 kbps in the switch, and I would
presume trying to obtain more than 50% of that data rate would depend
on some pretty strange factors such as the (in)ability to synchronize
with the ADC clock, as well as on any intermediate D-A-D conversions
that may be done. Not to mention bit robbing...
(*) = The standard state diagram are amplitude/phase plots when read
as a polar diagram. They can also be read as an XY plot of the
0-degree and 90-degree components that make up the signal.
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 21:15:56 EDT
From: Paul Robinson <PAUL@TDR.COM>
Reply-To: Paul Robinson <PAUL@TDR.COM>
Subject: Re: Cellular Towers and Frequencies
Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA
Shawn Gordhamer <shawnlg@netcom.com>, writes:
> I understand that cellular towers with small cell radius allow the
> cellular frequencies to be used over and over ... [and] no two
> adjacent towers can use the same frequencies because there will be
> interference... However, as cellular (hopefully) becomes cheaper
> even 333 channels for a small town may not be enough.
At which point, they ramp down the power level on the tower and add
another one some distance away. With the way things are going,
cellular towers are getting cheaper, enough so that if a place gets
more volume of calls, the amount of usage means that it becomes
economically viable to add more cells, since if people can't get
through they will stop their service or switch carriers. Or move to
PCS which isn't going to be too far away.
> A one-tower town cannot just put up another tower, because the towers
> will be adjacent, and they cannot use the same frequencies.
I'm not a cellular engineer, but I do know something about the way the
system works.
It's not quite as bad as you see it. Let's say that in a particular
area, the tower handles a ten-square mile area, five miles in each
direction. If a small town, let's say two miles away, is getting so
much calls that it is overloading the cell, then what you do is that
you do a traffic analysis to see where most of the calls are being
taken at; perhaps most of the calls are in the central business
district.
So you have a pattern like this:
Tower1-----!-----Tower2-----!-----Tower3--x---!-----Tower4-----!-----Tower5
When a call gets to a ! it's going to hand off to the next tower
because that one is giving a stronger signal. The 'x' is where the
small town is that is overloading Tower 3. So you put in another
tower, perhaps near the break point, like this
!-----Tower3--x--Tower3a---!---Tower4
Tower3a will pick up about 1/2 of the calls in the Tower3 area, and
part of Tower4's service. By making it an equal distance from the
town, you can thus split about 1/2 the traffic to each tower, since at
some point one of them is a stronger signal than the other, or is
available because one of them is overloaded. Thus each tower only has
to handle 1/2 of the area of the prior one. Or you go even further:
you put one very small, inexpensive lower powered cell right in the
center of town where most of the calls originate from (many people in
vehicles passing through a congested area, perhaps because it's the
only gas station for several miles). This cell would be the strongest
one for perhaps 1/2 mile or so, then as they move on they revert back
to one of the towers handling the much sparser traffic areas.
> In fact, for a large town with dozens of towers, each tower would have to
> use at most 1/4 of the channels, making a grid pattern
> A B A B A
> C D C D C
> A B A B A
> C D C D C
Actually, the term "cells" as used in cellular is more similar to a
honeycomb or hexogonal pattern, which each cell using a block
frequencies not used by any of the cells that is next to it, so we
more often have something similar to the following:
_ _ _
_/A\_/C\_/A\_ A cell frequency cannot be used by a cell that is
/D\_/B\_/D\_/B\ touching any other, so they break up the available
\_/C\_/A\_/C\_/ cells such that in each area only some of the
/B\_/D\_/B\_/ frequencies can be used. But in each area, each cell
\_/ \_/ \_/ in group "A" can use all of the available group "a"
frequencies.
In short, if a cell gets too many calls, the cell can be made to cover
a smaller area and another cell inserted into the matrix to change the
size of the coverage area.
Paul Robinson - Paul@TDR.COM
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From: wwalker@qualcomm.com (Bill Walker)
Subject: Re: Cellular Towers and Frequencies
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 06:04:51 -0700
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc.
In article <telecom14.316.4@eecs.nwu.edu>, shawnlg@netcom.com (Shawn
Gordhamer) wrote:
> I understand that cellular towers with small cell radius allow the
> cellular frequencies to be used over and over, allowing thousands of
> simultanious cellular conversations. I also understand that no two
> adjacent towers can use the same frequencies because there will be
> interference.
> Where I live, there are lots of small towns that have only one
> cellular tower.
[which is plenty for now, but may not be in the future when everybody in
town has a wireless phone. And you can't just put up more towers because
the population is not geographically dispersed]
> In fact, for a large town with dozens of towers, each tower would
> have to use at most 1/4 of the channels, making a grid pattern like
> the following:
[...]
> Am I correct in this assumption?
Yes. The most common reuse pattern, to my knowledge, is called K=7,
which basically means that you have to get seven cells away before you
can reuse the same frequency.
To some extent, you _can_ put in more cells (probably not "towers")
even in a small town. You just have to limit the coverage and
interference of each cell, by doing things like using lower antennae,
lower power, directional antennae (all of which come under the general
label of "microcells").
Or [WARNING! BIASED STATEMENT COMING!] you could replace your analog
cellular system with a CDMA digital cellular system, which will
provide about 10 times as many calls in the same frequency allocation
[QUALCOMM, my employer, is the chief proponent of CDMA digital
cellular]. No new towers, no new antennae, but everybody who wants to
use the new system has to get a new phone (but the new and old systems
can coexist).
Disclaimer: I'm a software guy with a rusty, old digital-oriented EE
degree, so I've probably over-generalized the RF stuff about propagation
and microcells.
Bill Walker - WWalker@qualcomm.com - QUALCOMM, Inc., San Diego, CA USA
------------------------------
From: lars@Eskimo.CPH.RNS.COM (Lars Poulsen)
Subject: Re: Bridge vs. Router Performance
Organization: Rockwell Network Systems, Copenhagen DENMARK
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 94 09:05:09 GMT
In article <telecom14.317.1@eecs.nwu.edu> sthomas@mitchell.hac.com
(Scott D. Thomas) writes:
> I have a puzzling (at least to me) situation. We have a simple
> network with a satellite link included. Orginally, we bridged three
> ethernet segments ... ... ... ... ... ... and got poorer that expected
> results. We decided to replace the bridges with routers, one per
> segment. The throughput was tripled!
> I was under the impression that bridges were more efficient because of
> lower overhead, less complexity, etc. and therefore would offer the
> better performance.
The most likely reason for your poor performance, is that one of the
sites in question is a LARGE network (maybe several hundred stations
or more ?) and the amount of broadcast/multicast traffic floating
around in the network is eating up all the bandwidth of the DS-1 link.
When connecting multiple LANs into one extended network, the
connection can be implemented with different logical models.
Bridging is the lowest level model; it takes to similar networks (such
as two Ethernets or two Token-Rings) and joins them intpo one logical
network. A bridge device on each end of the link:
- goes into promiscuous mode (snooping on all traffic)
- keeps track of which devices (identified by their Ethernet addresses)
are on each end, and
- forwards traffic for any device not know to be on the same LAN as
the sender, as well as all broadcast/multicast messages across the link.
Because this is done at Media Attachment Control (MAC) level, it is
protocol independent, and requires very little setup.
The downside is that all broadcast/multicast traffic is forwarded, as
well as traffic from protocols that are entirely unsuited for wide
area traffic. The larger the combined network, the larger the amount
of background "slosh" og broadcasts, even as a percentage of total
traffic. (For instance, every ARP request will be sent everywhere,
theough almost all of them are for stations local to the sender.)
When you have a couple hundred workstations, you are likely to have
about 32 Kbps worth of "slosh". (Meaning you need a T1 to get any WORK
done.)
To overcome the deficiencies of bridging, you need a router. Routers
must understand each protocol and must be configured appropriately for
each protocol. This means that somewhere in the organization there has
to be a person who understands each protocol that is being routed, and
who can set up an addressing plan and troubleshoot when problems
arise.
For a good textbook in this area, I recommend Radia Perlman's book
"Interconnections: Bridges and Routers". Addison-Wesley, 1992. ISBN
0-201-56332-0. I think I paid $53.26 (incl CA tax).
Lars Poulsen Internet E-mail: lars@RNS.COM
Rockwell Network Systems Internets: designed and built while you wait
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From: lailert@ucssun1.sdsu.edu (Supak Lailert "spk")
Subject: Re: IP Over Cable TV
Date: 18 Jul 1994 18:15:14 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University Computing Services
Lubos Elias (Lubos.Elias@uakom.sk) wrote:
> I am looking for information about possibility to provide IP service
> over cable TV wires. Are there any products?
In San Diego, our local cable company, Cox Cable, has successfully
tested the system that allow access to Prodigy via the cable TV
network. I think it acts like a very fast modem so I think we could
use SLIP or PPP over it, too.
Regarding their TV commercial, Cox claims over 50 times higher
throughput over modem access. Is it 9600BPS times 50? (I don't know
what the highest modem speed at Prodigy.) As I heard from local
computer magazine, the service has not been ready yet.
Regards,
Supak Lailert -- MBA (Information System) Program, San Diego State University
lailert@ucssun1.sdsu.edu lailert@aol.com
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From: Jan Hinnerk Haul <jan@wedel.hanse.de>
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 94 00:05:56 +0200
Subject: Re: ISDN Residential Use?
lars@Eskimo.CPH.RNS.COM (Lars Poulsen) writes:
> If there are ISDN fax machines available yet, they are very expensive.
And not compatible with ITU-T Group III (the standard fax) generally.
They are ITU-T (nee CCITT) Group IV but veeeery uncommon, so you could
use them almost exclusively to fax bug reports to the maker, if the
@#$%^ things would work at all :-)
> To just connect a telephone and an answering machine to an ISDN line
> will cost you something like:
> Network Termination unit, with power supply ... $250
> ISDN Telephone (nice model with speakerphone) . $280
> Analog terminal adapter (to connect std asw m). $400
In my setup, I connected a DEM 1,000 (abt. $600) phone system to the
ISDN line, as well as a PC ISDN card (running a packet driver and
PCROUTE as a dedicated Internet router for my LAN, consisting of one
Sparcstation clone :-)
Cost:
Network termination unit, with power supply.... $free
supplied by the telco ("ISDN phone socket")
converts the 2-wire telco to 4-wire S0 bus
Telephone system............................... $600
provides 8 extensions with DID (direct inbound
dialling, e.g., +49 40 89962067 is my modem)
Analog terminal adapter: built into phone system
ISDN card...................................... $ 60 (really!)
Installation charge DEM 130.................... $ 84
Monthly charge DEM 76.......................... $ 48
Usage fees: Just as analog 'phone (metered)
But ISDN is considered to be fairly cheap and highly available in
Germany.
> This stuff is still quite expensive. But once you are over the price
> hump, it is also quite nice.
Yours,
Jan
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From: whs70@cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h)
Subject: Re: ISDN Residential Use?
Date: 19 Jul 1994 08:34:19 -0400
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
In article <telecom14.315.3@eecs.nwu.edu>,
> The 16k "D" line is usually used as a signalling channel
> to make and break calls on the other two 64k "B" channels. I think it
> is possible to send data over the 16k line in and X.25 mode, but I
> don't know what happens to your signalling capabilities (are incoming
> and outcoming calls frozen until the 16k is free for signalling or can
> you time slice a signal in with the other X.25 traffic).
The signaling packets are just sent in the data stream along with the
regular X.25 packet information. There is a SAPI code in each packet
to distinguish signaling packets from other customer originated X.25
packets. Bottom line, the ability to receive and originate calls
during an X.25 file transfer is not "frozen" because on any BRI, the
volume of signalinging packets (versus customer X.25 packets) is very
low.
> Yes, you get two wires into your house. ISDN will work on the
> residential cable to your house.
Nominal maximum loop length is about 18Kft, but there are range
extenders which allow service beyond that distance. Depending on the
local tariff, use of a range extender may result in additional monthly
charges.
> You will need the NT-1 interface which splits to two wire signal
> into a four wire signal to the ISDN set.
The technical identity of the two wire (network) side of the NT-1 is
the U Interface. The four wire customer side of the NT-1 is the T
Interface.
> You can put a Terminal Adapter (TA) in the line to allow the use
> of analog equipment.
Many PC ISDN card adapters include such an analog jack (RJ-11) for a
"plain old telephone."
> And you also need to decide how you want the
> lines provisioned (Voice-Voice, Voice-Data), I think you can have at
> least one of the lines as a dynamic line (Voice or Data, you decide in
> your call set-up).
Actually, both B channels can be set up as Voice/Data.
Bellcore's ISDN Information Hotline 1-800-992-ISDN
Bill Sohl (K2UNK) BELLCORE (Bell Communications Research, Inc.)
Morristown, NJ email via UUCP bcr!cc!whs70
201-829-2879 Weekdays email via Internet whs70@cc.bellcore.com
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From: svec@rtsg.mot.com (Larry Svec)
Subject: Re: Are Any Bellcore or ITU Docs Available via FTP?
Date: 18 Jul 94 18:43:17 GMT
Organization: Motorola Cellulsr Infrastructure Group
jmorey@crl.com (John Morey) writes:
> I was wondering if Bellcore or ITU documents are available via FTP?
For ITU info, try sending an email to:
alias ITU ITUDOC@ITU.CH
with "help" in the body; It doesn't matter what the subject says.
I just discovred this and don't know fully what is available to
non-official members but it is a start for you.
Please let me know if you find a similar one regarding Bellcore.
I learned of the ITU address at a recent conference on wireless local
loop held in Hong Kong in June.
Larry Svec - KD9OF
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work: 708-632-5259 fax: 708-632-3290 UHF: 443.575+
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From: Fieldhouse Dirk <Fieldhouse@LGWCT.LOGICA.COM>
Subject: Re: Are Any Bellcore or ITU Docs Available via FTP?
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 94 12:17:00 BST
In article <telecom14.310.14@eecs.nwu.edu> is written:
> I was wondering if Bellcore or ITU documents are available via FTP?
See the FAQ for comp.std.internat for ITU documents (short answer:
gopher.itu.ch - OK I know that's not FTP, but the access is simpler).
I'd be interested myself if there is a Bellcore repository.
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From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 22:45:32 -0700
Subject: Re: Some D-Day Telecom History
I passed a copy of that article (by Donald E. Kimberlin, 30 May 94) to
F. A. "Bart" Bartlett, W6OWP who wrote me back a long letter, which
I'll excerpt below.
"It would seem from some of the statements made that there is not much
documentation of the Press Wireless war zone operations. As a Press
Wireless employee during this period, I can clarify a few points.
"Press Wireless had two mobile units in Europe and a unit flown to
General MacArthur's headquarters in New Guinea for the forthcoming
Philippines campaign. I was a member of the latter unit. It was
outfitted the same as the European units with mobile capability but
the strategy of General MacArthur's advance dictated the unit operate
as a land-based point-to-point facility.
"The units were known as projects PX, PV and PZ respectively. Each
unit had a 400-watt FSK/CW/AM transmitter which had been designed for
rugged field service. Keying was via high speed Morse (commonly known
as Boehme) apparatus and suitable equipment was included for handling
the voice transmissions of network and broadcast station
correspondents.
"Obviously, the reference to 50KW rigs in trucks is wrong. What may
have caused confusion was the policy of Press Wireless to dedicate at
least a 20KW transmitter in New York and the same in Los Angeles to
the PX, PV and PZ operations for control, outgoing dispatches and
voicecast cues.
"From all the information I've been able to glean from old Press
Wireless publications, all these units were basically the same.
Personnel included a project manager, technical personnel and
operators skilled in the special technique of handling high speed
Morse equipment. The units were sometimes called "The Fighting 400,"
the 400 referring to the transmitter around which each unit was
organized.
"The major part of each operation was the handling of message traffic
generated by war correspondents of news agencies and publications.
Use of facilities for voicecasts varied, depending on what other
circuits might be available. Project Z in the Philippines, for
example, handled no voice transmissions. A communications ship, the
APACHE, had voice facilities which during the early phases of the
Philippines campaign the network and broadcast correspondents used.
On the other hand, Project PX (the Normandy invasion unit) was
credited with over 400 voicecasts.
"... I noted the reference to a Gene Rider as a "civilian war
correspondent on loan to Prewi." I couldn't find him listed among
personnel that served with either Project PX or PV, although in one
account of wartime activity, there was mention of a Gene but no last
name was given.
"I might speculate that someone skilled in handling voicecasts might
have been needed and Gene became part of the crew. Actual handling of
voice service was on a "first come, first served" basis, the only
exception being military needs. In other words, press Wireless was
firm in their resolve to grant no special "air time" accomodation to
any correspondent. An example of this attitude was the time one of
the networks wanted me to read their broadcasts from Manila. They
were familiar with my voice on the control circuit and liked it better
than their man. you can seee the obvious conflict of interest
involved, and of course, Press Wireless was firm in saying "NO."
"To clarify my position mentioned above, Project PZ covered the Leyte
phase of the Philippines campaign. Another Press Wireless group,
Project PY, carried with it a 10KW land-based station which moved up
as our troops advanced on Manila. This was not a mobile unit. On
arrival at the outskirts of Manila, the station was installed for
fixed point-to-point operation. It went on the air Feb 25, 1944. The
higher power of this station allowed it to augment the voice
facilities of the APACHE and hundreds of voicecasts were handled from
the latter part of February, 1945, to war's end. I had transferred as
Associate Engineer to the PY group with the closing of the station on
Leyte.
"My association with Press Wireless was from March 1942 through 1968.
By the time I went to work for them, all the hassels over transmitting
tubes, etc., were over. Our big transmitters used various makes,
Eimac being common in the less powerful sets and Amperex, RCA and
Westinghouse being in the bigger rigs.
"Press Wireless was leading the way in FSK technology in 1942. The
extremely successful exploits of the "Fighting 400" outfits can be
attributed in no small measure to the advantage of FSK over straight
CW. Long distance RTTY was still in its infancy and while proving
itself on short-haul circuits wasn't doing very well on long haul
routes.
"Another Press Wireless operation of which little is heard today was
their manufacturing division. They built high power transmitters for
the military and their O5-B/FR FSK exciter was the standard for this
developing communications technology."
------------------------------
From: Thomas Neudecker <tn07+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: NYTimes, err, FBI, Looking For Telco Hacker
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 05:59:59 -0400
Organization: Sponsored account, Drama, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Excerpts from netnews.comp.dcom.telecom: 11-Jul-94 Re: NYTimes, err,
FBI, Look.. by Steve Waddell@iglou.iglo
> Don't take the NYT's, or for that matter the FBI's, description of
> technical matters too seriously. NYT employs reporters and editors of
> all levels of technical ability. The chances of having an article
> written _and_ edited by a knowledgable person is slim.
I suggest that you a do bit of background research regarding technical
background and the body of published works by John Markoff of the {New
York Times}. I have followed John's writting for the past 12 years.
During this time I have held his work in great esteem. Read the record
and go back to the time he was writing for {InfoWorld} as well.
Tom Neudecker TN07+@Andrew.cmu.edu
Voice: 412 828-7621 Local Data System: 412 828-8011
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From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 22:20:15 -0700
Subject: Re: What is Autodin?
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
AUTODIN is the acronym for Automatic Digital Network. I can give some
of its earlier history, maybe others will tell us about its current
status.
Around 1960 each of the three military services had a worldwide
Teletype message network. The Navy had a system leased from the Bell
System, called, uh, 82B1 or something like that. The Air Force had a
system from Western Union called Plan 55. I'm not sure whether the
hardware was purchased or leased, but I believe they did at least some
of the maintenance in-house. The Army had a military-nomenclature
system AN/GGC-something built for them by Automatic Electric Co. (of
Strowger switch fame) and Kleinschmidt for the teleprinter equipment.
All these were store-and-forward systems using punched paper for the
storage function; all were based on Baudot code. There was some way
to get messages from one service system to another; but I don't know
what it was.
There were also a lot of other communication systems used in the
services to meet needs that were not met by the main message systems.
One of these was operated by the Air Force for control of material
inventories. It consisted of a bunch of IBM card transceivers at
Tinker AFB in Oklahoma, and wires to all the other AF bases around the
country. It was the punched-card equivalent of a torn-tape message
relay system, in that decks of cards were punched on the transceivers
and then had to be carried to the sending machines appropriate for the
destination.
So the original idea was that this system needed improving. Western
Union won the competition to supply a modern data switching system,
using computer technology for storage and switching. The project was
first called COMLOGNET (Combat Logistics Network - that might also
have been the name of the card transceiver network too). Then as the
elaborateness and cost of the system started to grow the Air Force
decided to make it the basis of all message communication and changed
the name to AF DATACOM. Then some higher-ups decided it was time to
have a common system for all the armed services and changed the name
to AUTODIN.
The idea was that terminal stations could handle punched cards or
Teletype messages or both. There was also provision for magnetic tape
terminals. Transmission in the system was synchronous using a 6-bit
(?) code based on Fieldata. A box made by IBM was part of the
terminal and converted between the transmission code and Baudot or
punched card code and drove the Teletype machine and the card
transceiver. The magnetic tape terminal was a hard problem because in
those days the IBM tape format had not quite driven all others from
the marketplace (and IBM had several different tape codes and formats
of its own). So there had to be a tape drive appropriate to the kind
of tape to be sent and received; and conversion between the
transmission code and whatever code was to be written to the tape.
There was provision for both store-and-forward message switching and
circuit switching (a la TWX, establish a real-time end-to-end two-way
connection). All transmission was encrypted. The switching centers
used computers developed by RCA; and this was of course discrete-component
circuitry. There were six or eight switching centers at AF bases
around the US. Initial operation was in 1963, as I recall. Sometime
later (early 70s ?) the switching center hardware was replaced by more
modern hardware, also supplied by RCA. Although this was contemporary
with Spectra 70 it was a special-purpose architecture. I believe the
original trunk circuits between switching centers operated at 1200
baud. I believe circuit switching was intended for two situations:
(1) people in different locations might want to hold a secure
conference via Teletype, and (2) magnetic tape transmissions could use
a real-time connection to avoid having to store the whole contents of
a tape in the store-and-forward center. The doctrine at the time was
always that a message had to be received in its entirety before it
could be forwarded.
This pretty much ends what I know about AUTODIN; so I hope somebody
who knows the rest of the story will tell it to us. I remember one of
the problems was that the supply people were pretty unhappy with it;
all they wanted was an improved way to ship their punched cards
around, and with AUTODIN they lost their card transceivers altogether
(because of the encryption the equipment was all located in secure
communication centers). I know there were some new terminals
developed; one of these used the Univac 1050 computer as a high speed
card and printer station. There continued to be some special-purpose
networks; e.g. the Air Force and Navy had networks devoted to weather
data.
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From: dbrownd@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Damon Brownd)
Subject: Re: Call Blocking Bypass Scheme?
Date: 18 Jul 1994 17:49:21 -0500
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969
In article <telecom14.324.5@eecs.nwu.edu>, Kronos <bkron@netcom.com> wrote:
>>> 10658 -- whoever that is
> 658 is ONCOR aka "Cellular Long Distance"
When I dialed 10658-1-700-555-4151 the carrier was identified as WilTel.
Damon Brownd Houston Eye Associates Houston, Texas 713-668-6828
dbrownd@NeoSoft.com or brownd@eisner.decus.org
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From: ken@marconi.w8upd.uakron.edu (Kenneth R. Teleis)
Subject: Re: Call Blocking Bypass Scheme?
Date: 19 Jul 1994 04:26:34 GMT
Organization: University of Akron Amateur Radio Club
I have been reading the chatter about the call blocking bypass schemes
and potential problems about billing adjustments if these calls appear
on your bill.
I recently had a problem with a long distance company who wrongfully
billed me via my local company (Ameritech). The company refused to
issue an adjustment and Ameritech refused to adjust it claiming that
only that LD company could issue the credit.
I found an easy solution that quickly got me a credit: I told the lady
at Ameritech I would pay my bill to prevent disconnection of my local
service, however, I would immediately file a lawsuit naming Ameritech
as a party claiming they had wrongfully charged me, and had wrongfully
converted my funds.
She didn't seem to be affected by that until I demanded she get an
opinion from their legal department to se if they were willing to be
sued for merely serving as a collection agent for the other company.
Suddenly she had a quick change of heart and credited my account in
full.
If you have 900/976 blocking and get hit with one of these calls which
bypasses the blocking, this same tactic might just work for you. If
the carrier decides to pursue collection, you can always claim fraud,
etc in your defense and they will probably go away.
I should add, that I do have a small advantage (I am an attorney),
which sometimes can help.
These opinions are in no way my legal opinion, or to be contrued as
legal advice. I am simply relating what has worked for me personally,
and if you are having similar problems, perhaps it will work for you.
Regards,
Ken Teleis, Administrative Liaison (for lack of a better title)
University of Akron Amateur Radio Club. teleis@uakron.edu
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think counsel, that what you experienced
was not so much their fear of you as an attorney or that you might sue
them as it was their decision to cut their losses in your case and move on
to other things. As you well know, anyone can sue anybody for anything. If
they were executing their contract with the other company in good faith, I
don't think they'd be affected by your suit. I doubt very much they charged
it back to the other company with a stern note that 'Mr. Teleis refuses to
pay this fraudulent billing ...'. Probably at some point in your conversation
with them it reached the place where they decided their profit in the matter
had been absorbed by your quarreling and it was starting to cost them money
to process it further. Someone at Ameritech once commented to me that "the
concept of good customer relations is all well and good, but you have to
know when to bail out, and when you reach that point, do it quickly to
mitigate still further losses caused by the customer on that transaction ..."
Several years ago, Illinois Bell sued a judge -- of all people -- when he
was playing games getting frivilous adjustments from them month after month.
To stomp on him further, once they won the suit, they then filed a complaint
with the Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission (an organization
in Illinois which watchdogs lawyer/judges) trying to get him disbarred,
and they came close to it. Not merely content to win, sometimes they like
to rub your nose in it later. PAT]
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From: dave@westmark.com (Dave Levenson)
Subject: Intra-Lata Competition in NJ
Organization: Westmark, Inc.
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 11:13:36 GMT
As of July 1, telephone subscribers in the Garden State may prefix
intra-LATA calls with 10xxx codes to select a carrier other then Bell
Atlantic. It appears that Caller*ID is not carried on intra-LATA
calls carried by AT&T or US Sprint -- I haven't tried any others yet.
We are being deluged with mail and telephone calls from lots of long
distance carriers I've never heard of, pushing their intra-LATA toll
service in New Jersey. Most offer rates slightly lower than Bell
Atlantic's.
Dave
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TELECOM Digest Thu, 22 Jul 94 00:13:30 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 329
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
Reading the TELECOM Digest May be a Crime (Steve Bunning)
CWA Charges Sprint With Illegal Action (Phillip Dampier)
Secret Life of Bank Machines: Simple Tech Explanations Sought (P. Rukavina)
Information on FiberOptics Requested (Matthew Scott Weisberg)
Telephony Cards Other Than Dialogic - Recommendations? (Karyn German)
LDDS Metromedia Calling Card Confusion (Dan Srebnick)
Digital Telephone Systems (Robert Ambrose)
Book Review: "Internet Public Access Guide" by Hughes (Rob Slade)
Correction to 703 -> 540 Prefix List (Paul Robinson)
International Math Olympiad Result (Cedric Hui)
Conference Call Circuit? (Todd McLaughlin)
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Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 01:42:14 EDT
From: Steve Bunning <sbunning@DGS.dgsys.com>
Subject: Reading the TELECOM Digest May Be a Crime
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This time around dear readers, I decided
to save the best for first. Let's all have a good laugh to start this
issue at the expense of the Pacific Telephone and Telegraph Company
Security Department. They must really think they are hot stuff. PAT]
-----------
In a recent issue of the TELECOM Digest, there was some joking about
it being a felony to read information about telecommunications. This
reminded me of something that happened to me in the mid-70s.
At the time, I had subscribed to a newsletter out of California called
TEL or the Telephone Electronics Line published by the Teletronics
Company of America. It was similar to 2600 magazine and the TAP
newletter having articles on telecommuncations topics, but with a
phone phreak flavor. After receiving the publication for over a year,
it suddenly stopped coming. Sometime thereafter I received a notice
from the Pacific Telephone and Telegraph Company Security Office.
The text of their notice read as follows:
"On March 25, 1976, the Superior Court of California, County of Los
Angeles, entered an injunction in favor of The Pacific Telephone and
Telegraph Company and against Teletronics Company of America, and
others. Your name appeared on a list (provided under Court order) of
subscribers, or potential subscribers, to material previously published
and distributed by Teletronics Company of America. Accordingly, for your
protection and benefit, you are hereby given the following notice:
IT IS A VIOLATION OF STATE AND FEDERAL LAW TO USE ANY INSTRUMENT, DEVICE
OR SCHEME TO OBTAIN ANY TELEPHONE SERVICE WITHOUT PAYMENT OF THE LAWFUL
CHARGES THEREFOR. IT IS ALSO A CRIME TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO ANY
PERSON WHICH IS USEFUL FOR SUCH PURPOSE. IN MANY STATES, THE POSSESSION
OF OR DISSEMINATION OF PLANS OR INSTRUCTIONS FOR SUCH DEVICES IS A
CRIMINAL OFFENSE.
VIOLATIONS OF THESE LAWS ARE VIGOROUSLY INVESTIGATED AND PROSECUTED.
ACCORDINGLY, YOU ARE URGED TO DESTROY ANY AND ALL WRITTEN MATERIAL OR
DEVICE YOU MAY HAVE WHICH MAY VIOLATE ANY OF THESE LAWS.
THIS STATEMENT IS BEING SENT TO YOU BY ORDER OF THE SUPERIOR COURT OF
CALIFORNIA, COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES." End of notice.
So you see, subscribing to telecom publications may be riskier than
you imagined. I wonder, does this mean I should burn any back issues
of the TELECOM Digest that I have? Perhaps reading the Digest is only
a misdemeanor and not a felony :-)
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Isn't that precious! They want to fight,
maybe somone or more people should give them one. This reminds me of a
similar case here in the late 1970's when Channel 44 was operating in
many parts of the USA as 'pay television' with a scrambled signal. You
could watch their movies, but to do so you had to have one of their
decoding boxes, and of course you got one of those when you signed up
for the service. Purchase of a decoding box got to be a joke however, as
more and more pirates began building them and selling them out of the
back of their car. Everytime Channel 44 would change the system slightly
then the pirates would soon change their product to meet the new specs.
The answer from the pay-tv people was to stage raids at the homes of
the pirates and seize all the equipment, arrest them, etc. One aquaint-
ence of mine was 'in the business' (the pirate business that is) and
he got busted for selling decoders out of the back of his van in the
parking lot at 7/Eleven. They had several answers: if you claimed your
product was 'genuine' they got you on fraud charges; it obviously was
not the real thing. If you claimed it was type accepted by the FCC then
that was also fraud; in subscription television systems type acceptance
does not issue on decoders alone, only on entire systems including the
transmitter, etc. If you sold 'educational kits you assemble on your own'
with the circuit board already put together and maybe a single knob or
two which had to be screwed on in order to make it a 'kit you built
yourself' then you were an accomplice to the theft of services done
by the persons who purchased your 'kit'. They had it made, or so they
thought; they had an answer to every angle the pirates tried to use.
Thinking back to the days of Prohibition in the United States in the
1920's, I recalled how Anheiser-Busch (the makers of Budweiser Beer)
had survived during those lean years: They sold kits by mail order
which people could use at home to brew their own 'near beer', a con-
coction which *was* legal during prohibition. Anheiser-Busch sent the
nearly completed distillery (you had to screw in a couple of pieces)
along with 'brewing instructions for near-beer'. Every page of the
very detailed instruction book cautioned against using certain ingred-
ients in certain quantities, i.e. 'do not use (ingredient x) and only
use the amount we tell you of (ingredient y), because if you put 'x'
in there in quantity 'y' you will manufacture beer, and that is not
legal!' Of course you know the purchasers of the little distillery and
brewing kits put in plenty of 'x' and 'y', but they had been warned
by Budweiser against doing it, so as not to violate Prohibition.
With that in mind, the 'Radio Hobbyists Guild' was started. The Guild
had one project, and one project only in mind: to educate people in
the ways to *avoid breaking the law* where subscription television
decoder boxes were concerned. The Guild published a very detailed
instruction book complete with schematics showing how Channel 44 boxes
worked, so that whatever the reader happened to be building in the
way of electronic devices he could be sure to *not configure the
components in the way shown here* to avoid breaking any laws, etc.
Every page of the schematics was plainly noted "Caution, do not
put electronic components together in the way shown in these diagrams
becase by doing so you might be breaking the law." The reader was
frequently warned that 'in the event you are building some kind of
electronic device and *accidentally* (my emphasis) construct a decoder
box then you must be certain not to actually use it for that purpose
until you have (1) obtained type acceptance from the FCC, (2) notified
Channel 44 that you are in possession of it and agreed to pay their
monthly fees, and (3) gotten their permission in writing to do so.'
The little book published by the Radio Hobbyists Guild was given away
to anyone who sent a dollar or four postage stamps with a self addressed
large envelope to a certain post office box in downtown Chicago. I think
a couple thousand copies were sent out in all. Channel 44 knew it was
just a ploy -- thinly veiled BS -- but how do you go about making someone
quit urging others to obey the law? PAT]
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From: phil@rochgte.fidonet.org (Phillip Dampier)
Reply-To: phil@rochgte.fidonet.org
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 13:30:05 -0500
Subject: CWA Charges Sprint With Illegal Action
CWA CHARGES SPRINT WITH ILLEGALLY SHUTTING LATINO SUBSIDIARY A WEEK
BEFORE UNION VOTE
Sprint Long Distance illegally shut down a San Francisco subsidiary
that markets services to the Spanish-speaking community just one week
before the 177 workers were set to vote on unionizing in a National
Labor Relations Board election, the Communications Workers of America
declared in charges filed with the NLRB.
CWA is requesting that the NLRB seek an injunction to re-open the
office under Section 10(j) of the National Labor Relations Act, and
also is calling for the labor board to proceed with a representative
election. The unfair practice charges were formally filed against
Sprint late yesterday in San Francisco.
The union charged that Sprint abruptly closed the office on July 14 to
retaliate against the workers for seeking to organize -- approximately
70% had petitioned for an election -- and to block what portended to
be the first successful unionization campaign so far at the
aggressively anti-union long distance company.
CWA also charged that the action was intended to intimidate employees
at other Sprint facilities who have been seeking to organize despite
fierce management opposition as laid out in Sprint's "Union-Free
Management Guide."
Sprint bought La Conexion Familiar ("The Family Connection") in 1992
after contracting with the company for several years to sell Sprint
long distance service and provide Spanish language customer service to
the Latino community throughout the west and mid-west. La Conexion's
total workforce numbers 235, mostly women of Latin American origin.
La Conexion's business represents about seven percent of the Latino
market niche in long distance nationwide, which is growing 2 1/2 times
the rate of the market overall.
In what CWA President Morton Bahr described as "a brutal mass
execution," Sprint management suddenly secured the La Conexion offices
the afternoon of July 14, and told the workers to collect their
belongings and leave the facility after first submitting to body
searches by the security force.
"Workers burst into tears, at least one woman fainted, and paramedics
were summoned," the San Francisco Examiner reported of the scene.
Captain Philip Harvey, who led the paramedic team, said: "There was a
point where we were going to offer the services of a psychological
counseling team because we feared they might start calling 911 and
overwhelm the system." One female worker was taken to the hospital
for further treatment for what was described as a "psycho-social
crisis."
Shortly after the closing took place on July 14, a top Sprint official
who was briefing several CWA officials on the action disparaged La
Conexion workers as mainly "illegal immigrants" who spoke "Hispanic"
and who had "bought" their $7 an hour jobs with bribes.
While Sprint claimed that it closed the operation for economic
reasons, in fact this past March the company general manager told the
{San Francisco Chronicle} that La Conexion had been growing as much as
20% a month for the past two years and that he projected a tripling of
annual revenues by 1996. As recently as last month, a Sprint national
newsletter featured La Conexion as a unique and "very successful"
marketing enterprise.
"They told us that the reason they're closing is they were losing
money but that's a lie," said one of the fired workers Argelia Ardon.
"They closed us because we were organizing."
Threats that Sprint would pull the plug on La Conexion if the workers
voted to unionize had been widely rumored, drawing letters of concern
from telecommunication union leaders in Germany and France, where
Sprint is seeking a partnership with the national phone companies.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 15:33:58 +0100
From: Peter Rukavina <peter@crafts-council.pe.ca>
Subject: Secret Life of Bank Machines: Simple Tech Explanations Sought
I'm looking for simple technical explanations of how bank machines and
bank machine networks work for a radio series on "everyday technology"
I'm working on. Specifically:
(1) How is my "PIN Number" kept secret from everyone but me? Is it
stored on the magnetic stripe on my "bank card" or in some form in the
bank's "central computer?" Or somewhere else?
(2) How is the security of tranmissions between bank machines and the
"central computers" ensured? I have an old "Discover" magazine article
which talks about a 64-bit digital key generated by "white noise" which
is placed in both bank machine and central computer and used to DES
encrypt everything that passes between the two... is this accurate?
(3) How is the traffic between different banks' networks (and different
"networks of networks" like Cirrus and Plus and, here in Canada, Interac)
handled? Do all banks' computer speak "the same language" in the same
way that all Internet computers speak TCP/IP?
(4) I'm assuming the process of, say, withdrawing $20 from a machine goes
something like this:
- I stick my card in, card reader gets my "client number"
from the magnetic stripe, asks me for my PIN Number,
somehow verifies that I entered the right one (or not)
- the local computer in the bank machine presents me with a
menu of possible transactions (perhaps based on information
it got about my various accounts from the "central
computer"?) and takes me through a series of questions...
Withdraw... Savings... $20.00
- the bank machine computer the packages up the request
and sends it off to "central" which verifies (a) that I
have enough money in my account and (b) that I haven't
gone over my "daily limit" and, if everything's okay,
sends a signal to this effect back to the bank machine,
- the bank machine, having received an "okay to dispense"
signal, spits out $20 and sends back a "debit $20 from
his account" message to "central."
(5) How do bank machines "count money?" This would seem like a hard
sort of thing to pull off, especially given that you have to be right
pretty near well 100% of the time.
(6) Besides the recent "Chemical Bank computer error results in double
withdrawls from 100,000 accounts" problem in February, are there other
large-scale problems which have occured with banking machine networks?
(7) A 1992 New Scientist article talks about how the process of
"shouldering" people when they're entering their PIN, then collecting
their carelessly discarded receipt and, using the card number printed
on the receipt, using "readily available equipment which costs less
that $1600" to crank out a duplicate card using "published documents"
as a guide. Is such equipment still "readily available" and what
would the "published documents" be? Is this a widespread problem in
the U.S.?
Many thanks for any and all information.
Peter
------------------------------
From: moodyblu@umcc.umcc.umich.edu (Matthew Scott Weisberg)
Subject: Information on FiberOptics Requested
Date: 20 Jul 1994 08:15:31 -0400
Organization: UMCC, Ann Arbor, MI
Recently, I posted a request for information on WANs for a project I
was researching for the City of Novi, Michigan.
Well, it turns out that the cable company here, MetroVision, is under
an agreement to the city to provide Fiberoptics cable to every single
municipal building!
MetroVision is wiring the entire Oakland County with FiberOptics,
expected to be completed by the end of 95. They have a very impressive
network already it seems. Many of the schools here have something
called INET, basically, the schools are using MetroVisions "B" cable
to "share" classes on video and such. Supposedly, the original
agreement was that Metrovisoin was to run two cables of 56 channels
each to provide 112 channels to subscribers, however, they only run
one cable, the "A" cable, to subscribers. I saw some maps of their
current network, and they apparently have 750Mhz(?) of bandwith
available in the Novi area.
Anyway, what I need to know is what equipment would I need to attach
to their fiber to our 10BASET ethernet networks in each building? How
many strands would we need? They are running at least 12 strands to
each building I think ... it could be more.
I also need to know some places to order the equipment from, as I need to
get pricing ideas.
The engineer from Metrovision that came said it is not cost effective
to run fiber between "campus" buildings. They said there is already a
"shadow" cable (coax) running between the buildings and we could use
that and get like 1.54Mbps of bandwith. I disagree and don't feel
this is enough bandwith, especially with IPX/SPX being the bandwith
hog it is. I also thought that costs were coming way down on fiber. Am
I mistaken?
As usual, any information you can provide would be greatly appreciated!
Matt Weisberg, CNE MILLIWAYS - Computer and Network Consulting
PP-ASEL 21650 West Eleven Mile Road #202
Amateur Radio: KF8OH Southfield, MI 48076
Internet: moodyblu@umcc.umich.edu (810)350-0503 x11 Fax:(810)350-0504
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From: kmgerman@netcom.com (Karyn German)
Subject: Telephony Cards Other Than Dialogic - Recommendations?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 21:14:12 GMT
Could someone recommend telephony cards other than those by Dialogic?
I know that Dialogic is the defacto industry standard for call processing
applications, but we need an option that has drivers for BSDI Unix.
I would be interested in any alternatives, even if you don't know about
the BSDI support -- I'll research this myself.
Please email me at kgerman@marketplace.com.
Thanks ever so much!
Karyn German Cyberspace Development, Inc.
kgerman@marketplace.com Specialists in Internet Commerce
303-759-1289 http://marketplace.com
------------------------------
From: dan@islenet.com
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 94 11:10:54 EDST
Subject: LDDS Metromedia Calling Card Confusion
Organization: Isle-Net Telecommunications (BBS +1 908 495 6996)
I use an LDDS/Metromedia calling card to call New Jersey from my
workplace in NYC by dialing their 800 274 1234 number. The reason I
normally use them is that they offer a no surchage calling card.
Anyway, for the last couple of days, after I enter my calling card
number, I get an "MCI Operator" who asks me what number I am calling
from and what my calling card number is. It appears that Metromedia
is having some kind of switch problem in the NY area and is routing
calls via MCI. I declined to complete the calls without knowing who
would bill me and for how much. No one at LDDS/Metromedia or MCI
could provide an explanation for this rerouting of calls via an
alternate carrier. When I tried to report the problem to
LDDS/Metromedia, I was place on hold for about fifteen minutes and
gave up.
Does anyone know what and where the problem is?
Dan Srebnick
------------------------------
From: ambrose1@netcom.com (Robert Ambrose)
Subject: Digital Telephone Systems
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 22:07:37 GMT
I am acting as a non-paid volunteer in an attempt to put a well known
disability service organization on line. The problem I am facing has
to do with their present telephone system in relation to the fact that
they do not have an overabundance of spare cash on hand at the moment.
They had an SRX digital phone network installed three or four years
ago and as I am sure all of you well know modems operate on analogue
systems. On each desk in this organization there sits a phone with
three incoming digital lines which we can't access.
Somehow we have to be able to grab one of those lines to use with the
modem. Installing new dedicated lines is cost prohibitive. SRX has
offered the solution of an analog station cards for the box in the
basement which will service six people each, at a cost of $1800 per
card. There are over 90 people within this agency that could use
communications, so forget the cards. What would Thomas Edison have
said? "Damn the torpedoes, Let's find a solution", maybe.
I need a solution, they need a solution.
robert ambrose 508-362-3456
or email either your solution or number
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 12:44:03 MDT
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Internet Public Access Guide" by Hughes
BKINTPAG.RVW 940427
SSC
P.O. Box 55549
Seattle, WA 94155
206/527-3385
FAX: 206/527-2806
sales@ssc.com
"Internet Public Access Guide", Hughes, 1994, 0-916151-70-0, U$2.95
This book (pamphlet) is a quick, and very cheap, introduction to the
Internet. On the other hand, it doesn't explain much, and a lot of it
is not about the Internet.
It can't be considered a reference guide since it isn't easy to find
the information, and there isn't a lot there. The book mentions that
the best place to get information about the Internet is on the
Internet, but very few sources are mentioned.
Given the brevity of the book, it is surprising that two pages are
spent selling other SSC books, and twelve more in a brief introduction
to UNIX. However, the basics are here, particulary if the user is
either working from, or dialling into, a UNIX service. In that case,
sysadmins may find this a very handy "first step" for users. Service
providers running strictly UNIX systems may find it much cheaper to
buy these starter pamphlets (available in boxes of 240, apparently)
rather than build documentation from scratch.
For those providing Internet access from a UNIX platform, this would
be a handy and inexpensive first guide to users. For those on other
platforms, or with proprietary interfaces, it would be less useful.
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1994 BKINTPAG.RVW 940427. Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated newsgroups/mailing lists.
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Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 15:17:24 EDT
From: Paul Robinson <PAUL@TDR.COM>
Reply-To: Paul Robinson <PAUL@TDR.COM>
Subject: Correction to 703 -> 540 Prefix List
Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA
In a prior message I posted the list of prefixes changing from Area
Code 703 to area code 540 effective July 15, 1995. In transcribing
that list from the list in the paper, I missed a line by typing in the
first three or four entries, then accidentally moving down to the next
line and starting at entry number four or five there. My apologies
for this error. The corrected list, which I have checked, is as
follows:
The following prefixes in the 703 area code will change to
area code 540, effective July 15, 1995:
220 223 224 225 226 228 230 231 232 234 236 238 245 248 249 251 253 254
258 259 261 262 265 268 269 270 279 286 289 291 297 298 320 322 326 328
332 333 334 336 337 338 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 362
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445 452 456 459 460 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 470 472 472 474 475 477
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796 822 825 828 829 831 832 833 835 837 839 840 852 853 854 856 857 858
859 861 862 863 864 865 867 868 869 870 871 872 873 877 879 880 881 882
884 885 886 887 888 889 890 891 894 895 896 897 898 899 921 923 925 926
928 929 930 932 933 935 937 939 940 942 943 944 945 946 947 948 949 951
952 953 955 956 957 961 962 963 964 965 966 967 969 972 973 977 980 981
982 983 984 985 986 987 988 989 991 992 994 995 996 997 999
------------------------------
From: chui@netcom.com (Cedric Hui)
Subject: International Math Olympiad Result
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 05:47:51 GMT
Not a telecom news from Hong Kong, but I think some people may like to
know.
Subject: USA Kids Score In Math Race
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 94 6:20:12 PDT
HONG KONG (AP) -- Six high school students from the United
States achieved a historic first at the 35th International
Mathematical Olympiad in Hong Kong today -- they all had perfect
scores.
Officials said never in the history of the competition have
all members of a team managed to score the maximum 42-point score in
geometry and other mathematical tests.
"I am very proud of the performance of our team," said
Professor Walter Mientka of the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, leader
of the U.S. team. "Each member demonstrated great mathematical
creativity and was an outstanding representative of the United
States."
More than 600 students from 70 countries and territories
competed in the contest, organized by London's International
Mathematical Olympiad Advisory Committee and the Hong Kong
Mathematical Society.
A total of 192 medals were awarded with golds going to
students who scored at least 40 points, silver to those who had at
least 30 points and bronze for those with at least 20 points.
China finished second with three golds and three silvers, and
Russia was third with three golds, two silvers and one bronze.
The American team members were: Jeremy Bem of Ithaca High
School in New York, Aleksandr Khazanov of Stuyvesant High School in
New York City, Jacob Lurie of Montgomery Blair High School in
Maryland, Noam Shazeer of Swampscott High School in Massachusetts,
Stephen Wang of Illinois Mathematics and Science Academy, and Jonathan
Weinstein of Lexington High School in Massachusetts.
------------------------------
From: Todd McLaughlin <toddm@rahul.net>
Subject: Conference Call Circuit?
Organization: a2i network
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 06:08:32 GMT
I've made a simple circuit between my two phone lines so I can host a
conference call. The sound quality is rather disappointing, though.
The second call that is made sounds very distant. I'm guessing a
simple amplifier would fix the problem. A friend said I needed to get
a phone transformer, but he didn't seem to know much about it. Has
anyone else done this with promising results? Or if someone can tell
me a bit about the phone transformer ...
Thanks!
Todd McLaughlin <toddm@rahul.net>
------------------------------
From: bkron@netcom.com (Kronos)
Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Telephone Connections as Explained on Usenet
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 05:55:14 GMT
jlundgre@ohlone.kn.PacBell.COM (John Lundgren) writes:
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: John Lundgren found this gem of wisdom
> on some Usenet group somewhere and passed it along ...
Aw, come on. Based on the grammar and spelling, I'd say its just some
young kids. But, maybe not! I'm hearing "Dueling Banjos!"
I remember picking up the phone on our old Western SXS when I was a
kid (or was it my friend's Automatic GTE SXS?) and noticing that there
would appear to be no voltage for just a moment because there was no
sidetone. Immediately upon going off hook, there was sidetone, then
no sidetone, then dialtone. I never thought this was because they
were "switching batteries." (That was pretty funny) I just assumed
that the line was momentarily open while the line finder worked. But
maybe the guy authoring the posted opinions drew the wrong conclusion.
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Announcement of Free Software: NAS Network Management System (Jude George)
Book Review: "Broadband Networking ABCs for Managers" (Rob Slade)
True Voice Re-Exam - Some Additional Comments (Dr. John Berryhill)
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From: jude@nas.nasa.gov (Jude A. George)
Subject: Announcement of Free Software: NAS Network Management System
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 10:01:33 GMT
A free package called HNMS, the NAS Hierarchical Network Management
System, is now available. The software may be ftp'd from ftp.netcom.com
in the directory /ftp/pub/heyjude. (We're looking for other sites
to pick this up, as netcom is pretty bogged down).
Please read this full announcement before getting the software.
Note: This software has not yet been ported to the Sparc, or tested on
platforms other than the Iris. Although the code is written to be
portable there are some minor System V dependencies and changes
that would need to be made to the makefiles. A Sparc port will be
available soon, courtesy of Jason Thorpe at Oregon State University.
In it's current incarnation, HNMS also requires that you link with
Motif libraries, which are not free software. We may remedy this
at a later date with Motif-free GUIs (although we're hoping that
someone beats us to it).
HNMS v2.0g2
This is the first public release of HNMS, the NAS Hierarchical
Network Management System. HNMS may be used to monitor status
and generate traffic statistics for a large, routed IP network.
Graphical displays are provided for the X11 Window System and
make use of the Motif widget set. HNMS is unique is that it
can be used to graphically display routing information. The
GUI provides compact representations of LANs, in which the status
of every subnet, host, and IP address can be displayed in a small
area. Netmask misconfigurations can be picked out immediately.
It also correctly displays various WAN architectures, such as
those which include multiple IP addresses per interface
(or vice versa), or subnets which spread across multiple links.
A custom version of HNMS was used to generate the live,
three-dimensional representation of the cross-country ATM network
at Supercomputing '93 in Portland, Oregon.
Data collection is handled via SNMP, ICMP, and direct layer 2
monitoring. Distribution of network management information is
done via HNMP, a new protocol which builds upon the simple,
stateless client-server model used by SNMP. HNMP defines
network objects, binds SNMP variables to them, and facilitates
higher level management operations on them. The ASN.1
specification of HNMP is included in this package.
Please note that there is also a release of HNMS that we are
distributing through COSMIC, NASA's software technology
transfer organization. COSMIC may (or may not) provide
support for that distribution, but please do not ask them
for any kind of support concerning this one. They will not
be able to help you. This version of HNMS has been made
available to you, by special dispensation, as FREE SOFTWARE
under the GNU public licence ("copyleft"). It is distributed
as is, with NO WARRANTY for its fitness for any purpose,
and is NON-PRODUCTION software. If it is redistributed,
you may not charge for it or any derivative work. Please see
the file "COPYING" for details about all this.
Full source code is provided. We encourage the Internet
community to experiment with, build upon, use, port, learn from,
add modules to, write scripts for, and expand this software
package. There are some areas in which it can be improved,
especially in the areas of generality and efficiency.
We would like to see standardized displays for various types
of networks and monitored objects, as well as customized displays
for specific network hardware, and have them be freely available
to everyone.
The authors do not have the resources to maintain this software
outside of NAS. Although we may continue to add enhancements,
we are hoping that other(s) will take on the role of incorporating
bug fixes and extensions to the code, and sending out new releases.
We do welcome any suggestions or bug reports that you may
have -- but there's no guarantee that we will be able to
help you, or even have time to respond. We are working full
time (and then some) on other projects. To reach us via
email, mail to hnmsdev@nas.nasa.gov.
This software has not been extensively tested. Consider it
to be NON-PRODUCTION code. There have been (and may still be)
bugs which cause it to crash systems, run rampant on networks,
or just annoy people. Neither the authors, nor NASA, nor
anybody at all takes any responsibility for any damage that
HNMS may cause, directly or indirectly, to your network, your
users, or anything.
That said, it works pretty well for us.
Jude George Leslie Schlecht
jude@nas.nasa.gov schlecht@nas.nasa.gov
Any opinions expressed above are a figment of your imagination,
and should not be taken to reflect the views of NAS, NASA, CSC,
or anybody else.
-----------
TO BUILD, follow the instructions in the top-level Makefile.
------> Be forewarned that you will need to obtain the Motif libraries,
------> ISODE-7.0 (not 8.0) and tcpdump if they do not already exist
on your system.
FOR COMPLETE INSTRUCTIONS on installing and using HNMS,
please read the file docs.ps.
Here are some quick-start instructions for the HNMS daemon, the graphical
user interface, and the textual user interface. The binaries are called
hnmsd, hnms, and hnmstool.
INSTALLATION
1. Untar and build the HNMS distribution. Sources, docs, and auxiliary
files are included. This version of HNMS has only been tested on
the Silicon Graphics Iris under IRIX 4.0.5. It should work with little
modification on SparcStations running SunOS 4.x.
1. Choose a directory to be the hnms "home", and copy the binaries
and the background/ directory to that directory.
2. Set the $HNMS_HOME environment variable to be that directory. You
may want to put this in your .login.
3. Make sure tcpdump is in your path. It's usually located in
/usr/local/etc. The HNMS IO module uses tcpdump to discover new
IP addresses.
4. Make the hnmsd (and tcpdump, if necessary) setuid root. The HNMS
IO module, contained within hnmsd, needs root to access the ICMP
socket.
5. Set the HNMS_PROMISCUOUS environment variable. We are just using
this as a flag to tell the IO module that it's okay use promiscuous
Ethernet monitoring.
6. Start hnmsd.
RUNTIME -- GUI
The GUI binary is called "hnms". If you are running it on a machine
different from the server, set the HNMS_SERVER environment variable
to have the server machine's name.
Start the hnms program. Once the GUI's main window appears, choose
"Open" from the "HNMP" menu at the top center of the window. A new
window titled "Server" will pop up. In this window, type "public"
in the Community field, and the hostname of the server machine in the
Selection field. Then click the Connect button.
At this point, you can start building diagrams. Choose "New -->
Custom Status View" from the HNMS menu on the main window.
An "EDIT" window will pop up. Type an asterisk in the Selection
field, then click Add, then click the check mark at the top.
You will see a display of all the hosts that the server currently
knows about ("Processor" objects), along with their IP addresses
("Ipaddr" objects") and the subnets they are connected to ("Subnet
objects). If you have just recently started up hnmsd, the objects
will appear magenta while hnmsd is ramping up. This process
takes three minutes. Afterwards they will change to green.
When a reachable object becomes unreachable, it changes to yellow,
then red.
Feel free to experiment with the rest of the menu items. "Site" and
"WAN" diagrams may be built in a manner similar to the "Custom".
For WAN diagrams to be displayed properly, the sysLocation field of
your hosts should be in the format <any-string> <longitude> <latitude>.
For example, "NASA Ames Research Center -122.5 37.1".
RUNTIME -- PLAINTEXT
You may also run hnmstool. This program takes commands on stdin and
outputs results on stdout, so it can be used effectively from within
shell scripts. For a demonstration, we will run it interactively.
The hnmstool does not give a prompt. After starting it, wait a minute
or two for it to get the list of HNMS objects from the server.
for the HNMS daemon to pick up a good assortment of objects from the
network. Then type list. You should see a list of objects scroll down
the screen. Only hosts with SNMP agents responding to "public" will be
shown. To pick up other hosts, type hint <hostname> <community-name>.
For example:
hint snafu.nas.nasa.gov foobar
The next time you type list, you should see
processor:snafu
among the objects. To get data about an object, type
subscribe "<object>" <variable>@<interval>. For example:
subscribe "processor:snafu" sysUpTime.0@15
This will give you a report of the value of the sysUpTime.0 variable
every 15 seconds, if the variable changes. Since sysUpTime.0 constantly
changes, you will get an update on stdout every 15 seconds.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 06:40:49 MDT
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: "Broadband Networking ABCs for Managers" by Davidson
BKBNABCM.RVW 940426
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With the continuing development of new computer and communications
technologies, and the increasing rate of such development, it is
difficult for professionals in the field to keep up, let alone
managers and executives who must make the final decisions. This book
is a welcome resume of some of the "hot" new data communications
methods and standards.
Chapters one to three are primarily concerned with the factors driving
increased communications needs; more desktop power, group work,
multimedia, mobile computing, and telecommuting of various types; and
the benefits of improved networking. Chapters four and five give
basic background information on LAN technologies, dealing,
respectively, with local and internetworking functions. It is
chapters six to eight that give hard information on the new
technologies, such as frame relays, call relay, ATM (asynchronous
transfer mode), and SONET (Synchronous Optical NETwork). Data
professionals will grasp explanations readily, seeing ATM, for
example, as a form of "slotted ring" networking. Unfortunately, the
material of the first five chapters is not a sufficient background to
understand the technical implications of this central text. Managers
and executives, unless former techies themselves, are not likely to
understand the concepts without further help. The book continues with
a more conceptual discussion of the internetworking of the
technologies, in chapter nine, and a fairly terse glance at planning,
in chapter ten.
For those charged with communications planning for medium- to
large-sized organizations, this book is a valuable reference to have
on the technical planning bookshelf. Even if you cannot give it to
the denizens of executive country, it will give you a clearer picture
when you are called in to help them decide on these bright new
communications technologies.
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1994 BKBNABCM.RVW 940426. Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications/mailing lists.
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From: Dr. John Berryhill <berryh@huey.udel.edu>
Subject: True Voice Re-Exam - Some Additional Comments
Date: 22 Jul 1994 03:41:37 GMT
Organization: little scraps of paper, mostly
During the earlier discussion about True Voice, someone said,
quite pointedly, that it is "not as simple as playing graphic
equalizer with the telephone line." In fact, the ONLY specific pieces
of equipment mentioned in the Bowker patent are a Yamaha DEQ-7
equalizer and a 4ESS toll switch. Go figure. To me, it sounds an
awful lot like "playing graphic equalizer with the telephone line."
Getting a Yamaha DEQ-7 equalizer to operate on time-division
multiplexed companded PCM signals in a toll switch is left as an
exercise for the reader. According to the folks at Yamaha, the DEQ-7
requires linear-encoded digital signals in a proprietary Yamaha
format.
As far as the "sophisticated digital signal processing techniques"
that someone had mentioned in the earlier discussion, the Bowker
patent says the following:
"[C]oefficients of the digital filter are
selected in a conventional manner to increase
the level of speech signals occurring within
a particular range of frequencies..."
[column 3, lines 30-33]
"Specifically, as is well-known, an echo
canceler performs a number of signal
processing functions."
[column 4, line 62]
"Digital filter 110-22 implements the
inventive method in echo canceler 110-2. A
similar circuit implements the invention in
echo canceler 105-2. The way in which a
digital filter is implemented is well-known
and will not be discussed herein."
[column 5, lines 29-33]
Pretty sophisticated stuff. In the Reexamination Request, this is
what is called "admitted prior art." Of course, if you had seen
"Voice Frequency Transmission Treatment for Special Service Telephone
Circuits" in Bell Syst. Tech. J., v60 n7, Sept. 1981, you would have
already known that the well-known "number of signal processing
functions" performed by an echo canceler include:
"...(i) an equalizer for the transmit
direction of transmission,
(ii) an equalizer for the receive direction
of transmission, and
(iii) a canceler."
[page 1590]
The Bowker patent suggests using such an equalizer to compensate
for the low-frequency roll-off of a standard telephone. As any EE
knows, graphs of frequency response are often called Bode plots. In
the classic Bell Labs paper on variable equalizers published by H.W.
Bode in 1938, (Bell Syst. Tech. J., vol. 17, no. 2), Dr. Bode had
this to say on the subject:
"The use of equalizing structures to
compensate for the variation in the phase and
attenuation characteristics of transmission
lines and other pieces of apparatus is well
known in the communication art."
[page 229]
"The network should then behave much like a
radio 'tone control.'" [page 230]
Quick quiz for the technically-impaired: Name one "other piece of
apparatus", aside from a transmission line, that one might find in a
telephone system?
If you guessed "a telephone" then you qualify for the bonus
round. If you didn't, then you need a quick refresher from Mr. G.J.
Barnes, from the record of the 1979 National Telecommunications
Conference:
"The telephone is an integral part of the
network and satisfactory conversational
quality is usually only achieved when due
account is taken of the characteristics of
each of the communication links."
[page 51.1.5]
Among the five items of prior art that AT&T cited to the examiner
during prosecution of the patent, in accordance with their duty to
disclose relevant information known to them, was an anonymous article
from _Hobby Electronics_ on how to build your own stereo bass booster.
Another item related to car stereos. Only two of the five had
anything to do with telephony.
I understand that things may have been tough since divestiture,
but they might want to trade their _Hobby Electronics_ subscription
for the Bell System Technical Journal (since re-named). Surely they'd
qualify for a TrueDiscount or something.
For the severely technically-impaired, there is the charming 1934
book, intended for a popular audience, by Mr. J. Mills entitled
_Signals and Speech in Electrical Communications_ (Harcourt Brace
Jovanovich), stating:
"The test experiment is easily set up by one
'skilled in the art' as the patent lawyers
would say. It requires telephone equipment;
and in the line between the transmitter,
which picks up the musical note, and the loud
speaker, which delivers its mutilated remains
to the observer, a set of adjustable electric
filters, for those devices are selective in
their transmission and will eliminate
currents corresponding to undesired pitches.
In fact, when once a sound wave has been
anaesthetized by a transmitter and laid out
on a pair of telephone wires, the most
crucial of operations may be performed upon
it. Its various components can be removed,
amplified or rearranged." [pages 14-15]
The most striking thing about this passage is Mr. Mills' ability to
predict, exactly 60 years in advance, what patent lawyers would say.
And, by the way, if you watch the end of the commercial closely, you
will notice that Whitney Houston's mouth movements are out of synch
with the soundtrack.
John Berryhill
1601 Market St., Suite 720, Philadelphia PA 19103
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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 14:55:00 GMT
From: charles (c.a.) hoequist <hoequist@bnr.ca>
Subject: Re: Camelot on the Moon
I, too, was thrilled watching the first moon landing (and the
subsequent ones, for that matter), and I'd like to put some details on
the Moderator's reminiscences that prefaced Don Kimberlin's article.
PAT wrote
> Even the talking heads of television news had nothing to say, so
> shocking was the scene before all of us. Imagine nearly an hour of
> dead air, just silence from the men and women who usually have plenty
> to say ... they sat there as shocked as the rest of us. We stared at
> a picture on a screen for nearly an hour without a word of sound as
> the men
Not on CBS, they weren't silent, though we probably all just tuned
them out. I certainly did. I sat down yesterday, though, and listened
to a tape I made live of the audio from the CBS broadcast. (frequently
stopping the tape and just sitting, overwhelmed -- it hasn't lost any
of its impact for me), and here is a transcription of the central
event. Note the telecom glitch (inverted display) and the inability of
the talking heads (the two Walters, Cronkite and Schirra) to just belt
up for once and let history happen.
-------------- transcription start ------------------
Apollo: Roger, tv circuit breaker's in [unintelligible]
Houston: Roger. And we're getting a picture on the tv!
Cronkite: There it is!
Schirra: Oh, great!
Apollo: You got a good picture, huh?
Houston: There's a great deal of contrast in it, and currently it's
upside-down on our monitor, but we can make out a fair amount of
detail.
Cronkite: four hundred million people are turning on their heads at
the moment, with those words. Uh, they're supposed to turn that
picture over for us, electronically.
Schirra: There's some motion there.
Cronkite: There, they turned it over now.
Schirra: There's a foot going down.
Cronkite: There he is, there's a foot coming down the steps.
Houston: Okay, Neil, we can see you coming down the ladder now.
Apollo: Okay, I just checked, getting back up to that first step.
It's, not collapsed too far, but it's adequate to get back up.
Houston: Roger, we copy.
Apollo: It's a pretty good little jump.
Cronkite: So there's a foot on the moon! Stepping down on the moon. If
he's testing that first step, he must be stepping down on the moon at
this point! Ten-
Houston: Buzz, this is Houston. [Add? aft?] 2 1/160ths second for shadow
photography on the sequence camera.
Apollo: [Aldrin] Okay. [Armstrong] I'm uh, at the foot of the ladder.
The LEM footpads are only, uh, depressed in the surface about one or
two inches, although the surface appears to be, uh, very, very
fine-grained as you get close to it. It's almost like a powder.
[unintelligible] is very fine.
Cronkite: Boy, look at those pictures. Wow! It's a little shadowy, but
he said he expected that in the shadow of the lunar module. Armstrong
is on the moon. Neil Armstrong, [Armstrong's voice in the background:
"Okay, I'm gonna [unintelligible] off the LEM now" ] 38-year-old
American, standing on the surface of the moon. On this July 20th,
nineteen hundred and sixty-nine. [Armstrong has started talking under
the word, 'nine': "That's one small step for man, one giant leap for
mankind."]
[ several seconds of dead air ]
Schirra: I think that was Neil's quote. I didn't understand it.
Cronkite: 'One small step for man', but I didn't get the second
phrase. Someone of our monitors here, at space headquarters, was able
to hear that, we'd like to know what it was. [Armstrong under:
[unintelligble] The surface is fine and powdery. I can kick it up
loosely with my toe. It does adhere in fine layers, like powdered
charcoal, to the sole and sides of my boot."]
Cronkite: His quote was, that's one small step for man, that's one
giant leap for mankind [Armstrong under: unintelligible, due to
Cronkite talking]
---------------- transcription end --------------
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You kinda feel excited even reading about
it ... Well, I hope the messages this past week on the 25th anniversary
of the moon walk have been enjoyable to everyone. The action on Jupiter
this past week has also been fascinating. At least in the case of Jupiter
there have been others to observe what is going on. I wonder, when it
happens here -- as it surely will some day -- if there will be anyone to
mourn or miss us after we are gone, or anyone who even knows that it
happened? At least we know it happened on Jupiter, even though there is
not a thing we can do about it. PAT]
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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 00:45:31 -0700
From: john@bovine.ati.com (John Higdon)
Subject: Re: Reading the TELECOM Digest May Be a Crime
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This time around dear readers, I decided
> to save the best for first. Let's all have a good laugh to start this
> issue at the expense of the Pacific Telephone and Telegraph Company
> Security Department. They must really think they are hot stuff. PAT]
While this refers to an incident circa 1976, it should be noted that
Pac*Bell's security department continues its tradition of ultra-silly
behavior and attitude even to this day.
A couple of years ago I was involved in consultations with the
defendant in a "telephonic misconduct" case. At one point it was
necessary to visit the local FBI office to review the physical
evidence that the bureau was intending to use against the alleged
wrongdoer. In addition to the agents, the head of security for Pacific
Bell was on hand, presumably to protect the interests of his company
during my pawing of the evidence.
Among the many harmless-looking items was a street map of the south
Bay Area. My curiosity could no longer be suppressed, so I asked,
"What is the significance of this particular item?" With that, I waved
the map in the air. Mr. Security immediately rushed over, grabbed the
map out of my hand and announced, "that is a map that has been marked
to REVEAL Pacific Bell central office locations!"
"May I see it, please?" One of the FBI agents motioned for Mr.
Security to return the map to my hands, at which time I opened it and
spread it out on the table. Then I proceeded to deliberately and
obviously run my finger to a dozen or so points on the map saying,
"There is no mark here; no mark here; no mark here...", etc. Mr.
Security's eyes were becoming as big as saucers. "No, this is not a
map of central office locations. What marks there are on this map are
not designating them at all."
Mr. Security came unglued. "How do YOU know where the central offices
are located? Those locations are SECRET!" I explained to him that not
only were the buildings themselves plainly marked with gigantic
Pac*Bell logos, but the complete listing of exchange areas with maps
and CO locations was available to any equipment vendor or service
reseller. At the same time, I informed him that another piece of
evidence, the test number directory, was also available to the public.
That dude had one long face.
There are some telco people who apparently missed what happened in 1984!
John Higdon | P.O. Box 7648 | +1 408 264 4115 | FAX:
john@ati.com | San Jose, CA 95150 | 10288 0 700 FOR-A-MOO | +1 408 264 4407
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Welcome back to the Digest, John. For
the newer readers among us (those joining in the past year or so), John
was a regular participant for several years prior to the great schism
which occurred now about as year ago. Glad you chose to post again John,
and perhaps you will be around more often. PAT]
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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 14:05:21 CDT
From: Andrew C. Green <ACG@dlogics.com>
Subject: Re: Reading the TELECOM Digest May Be a Crime
Our Moderator writes:
> The little book published by the Radio Hobbyists Guild was given away
> to anyone who sent a dollar or four postage stamps with a self addressed
> large envelope ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
... and address it "Care of Congressman Dan Rostenkowski..." :-)
Aw, I couldn't resist...
Andrew C. Green (312) 266-4431
Datalogics, Inc. Internet: acg@dlogics.com
441 W. Huron
Chicago, IL 60610-3498 FAX: (312) 266-4473
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thank you for your input into this discussion
Andrew. Yeah, Dan Rostenkowski finally got his come-uppance after all these
years. I think he would prefer the dollar bill instead of the stamps. PAT]
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Re: Secret Life of Bank Machines: Simple Tech Explanations (Stan Schwartz)
Re: Secret Life of Bank Machines: Simple Tech Explanations (Mike Deignan)
Environmental Network Funded by Ontario Government (Joan McCalla)
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From: stans@panix.com (Stan Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Secret Life of Bank Machines: Simple Tech Explanations Sought
Date: 22 Jul 1994 13:17:08 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Peter,
I think I can help you with a couple of your questions, based on my
personal experiences (and former employer).
> I'm looking for simple technical explanations of how bank machines and
> bank machine networks work for a radio series on "everyday technology"
> I'm working on. Specifically:
> (1) How is my "PIN Number" kept secret from everyone but me? Is it
> stored on the magnetic stripe on my "bank card" or in some form in the
> bank's "central computer?" Or somewhere else?
The PIN is not on the card. In our application, a PIN-offset is
encoded on the card. The offset is sent with the PIN from the
transaction terminal (ATM or POS) and when combined with an algorithm
at your bank, produces the anticipated result. Any other result will
cause a response of "invalid PIN".
> (3) How is the traffic between different banks' networks (and different
> "networks of networks" like Cirrus and Plus and, here in Canada, Interac)
> handled? Do all banks' computer speak "the same language" in the same
> way that all Internet computers speak TCP/IP?
Interbank transaction processing is done through privately owned
"clearing houses" that basically have a big internal table of where to
steer each transaction based on card number (ususally the first 4 to 6
digits). Each bank doesn't have to speak the same language, as long
as they can communicate with the clearing house.
> (4) I'm assuming the process of, say, withdrawing $20 from a machine goes
> something like this:
> - I stick my card in, card reader gets my "client number"
> from the magnetic stripe, asks me for my PIN Number,
> somehow verifies that I entered the right one (or not)
> - the local computer in the bank machine presents me with a
> menu of possible transactions (perhaps based on information
> it got about my various accounts from the "central
> computer"?) and takes me through a series of questions...
> Withdraw... Savings... $20.00
> - the bank machine computer the packages up the request
> and sends it off to "central" which verifies (a) that I
> have enough money in my account and (b) that I haven't
> gone over my "daily limit" and, if everything's okay,
> sends a signal to this effect back to the bank machine,
> - the bank machine, having received an "okay to dispense"
> signal, spits out $20 and sends back a "debit $20 from
> his account" message to "central."
It depends on the bank and the system. If you're not at your own
bank, it's more than likely that PIN verification is packaged with the
withdrawal request, thereby cutting down on transmissions and
transaction time. If you're at your bank, the opportunity exists to
transmit more information between the host and the ATM, so PIN processing
might be done up front. You will also have more transaction options
at your own bank.
> (5) How do bank machines "count money?" This would seem like a hard
> sort of thing to pull off, especially given that you have to be right
> pretty near well 100% of the time.
The first part of the process is usually a modified currency counter
(the kind that you see behind the tellers at your local bank). For
verification, I know that some of them use a light sensor, which
passes each bill over a beam of light. If the lens on the other side
of the bill doesn't see the correct amount of light, then the bills
are dumped into a "reject" bin because the machine assumes that it has
more than one bill stuck together.
> (6) Besides the recent "Chemical Bank computer error results in double
> withdrawls from 100,000 accounts" problem in February, are there other
> large-scale problems which have occured with banking machine networks?
Chemical Bank's problem was not related so much to the ATM's
themselves as it was to the bank's overnight batch processing.
Apparently the transaction file was fed into the jobstream more than
once during the course of the run. While this does happen on
occasion, it's usually corrected before any customers are affected (or
aware) of a problem.
> (7) A 1992 New Scientist article talks about how the process of
> "shouldering" people when they're entering their PIN, then collecting
> their carelessly discarded receipt and, using the card number printed
> on the receipt, using "readily available equipment which costs less
> that $1600" to crank out a duplicate card using "published documents"
> as a guide. Is such equipment still "readily available" and what
> would the "published documents" be? Is this a widespread problem in
> the U.S.?
Yes, see Long Island Newsday dated 7/21/94.
Stan
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From: md@pstc3.pstc.brown.edu (Michael P. Deignan)
Subject: Re: Secret Life of Bank Machines: Simple Tech Explanations Sought
Date: 21 Jul 1994 13:51:31 GMT
Organization: Center For Political Incorrectness & Environmental Ignorance
Reply-To: mpd@anomaly.sbs.com
In article <telecom14.329.3@eecs.nwu.edu>, Peter Rukavina <peter@crafts-
council.pe.ca> writes:
> I'm looking for simple technical explanations of how bank machines and
> bank machine networks work for a radio series on "everyday technology"
> I'm working on.
Several years ago when I was working for a national consulting company
here in the northeast I had the opportunity to work on ATM software at
banks, so I can provide a little generic information.
> (1) How is my "PIN Number" kept secret from everyone but me? Is it
> stored on the magnetic stripe on my "bank card" or in some form in the
> bank's "central computer?" Or somewhere else?
Several methods that were used are as follows:
1. The PIN number is stored on the mag stripe. It is then verified at
the ATM when you punch your code in.
2. The PIN is stored electronically at the bank's central computer. When
you enter your PIN at the ATM, it is sent to the central computer and
verified, with a result code being returned to the ATM (ok to
proceed, bad pin, etc.)
3. Some banks didn't allow you to pick your PIN. Instead, each ATM card
had a serial number. A PIN was automatically generated using an
algorithm based upon that serial number. The ATM software could then
read your card's serial number and determine what your PIN should be,
prompt you for it, and see if it matches.
This was before the big interbank ATM networks were established, though,
so now they adhere to those standards if they're a member of a large
ATM network.
> (2) How is the security of tranmissions between bank machines and the
> "central computers" ensured? I have an old "Discover" magazine article
> which talks about a 64-bit digital key generated by "white noise" which
> is placed in both bank machine and central computer and used to DES
> encrypt everything that passes between the two... is this accurate?
Again, different systems vary. I've never seen a system that uses the
method you describe, but then again, I only worked at regional banks.
Many ATM's are intelligent and do a significant amount of processing
on their own; all they need to do is send a small message back to the
central computer to effect an account transaction and get a one-byte
reply code back. For instance, a typical data stream to the central
computer will consist of a transaction code, account number, and
amount. So, you may be talking 20 bytes total going to the central
computer, and then a one-byte reply code being returned (00=okay,
01=insufficient funds, 02= account closed, etc.)
Some banks use encryption to encrypt the data stream going from the
ATM to the central computer, others don't. Encryption schemes vary
depending on what the bank is comfortable with. Some use revolving
encryption which changes on a regular basis.
> (3) How is the traffic between different banks' networks (and different
> "networks of networks" like Cirrus and Plus and, here in Canada, Interac)
> handled? Do all banks' computer speak "the same language" in the same
> way that all Internet computers speak TCP/IP?
Most ATM's are programmed to recognize a native card (ie one from the
ATM's bank) and a foreign card. A whole set of subroutines will exist
for foreign cards. The transaction requests are still sent back to the
central computer which then knows to route the request to a Cirrus/Plus
clearing house. Cirrus/Plus publish their own standards by which
member banks must format their data and communicate with their networks.
> (4) I'm assuming the process of, say, withdrawing $20 from a machine goes
> something like this:
Essentially, the scenario you paint is sometimes used.
> (5) How do bank machines "count money?" This would seem like a hard
> sort of thing to pull off, especially given that you have to be right
> pretty near well 100% of the time.
"Count money" how? In dispensing? Its fairly mechanical and works
almost flawlessly.
> (7) A 1992 New Scientist article talks about how the process of
> "shouldering" people when they're entering their PIN, then collecting
> their carelessly discarded receipt and, using the card number printed
> on the receipt, using "readily available equipment which costs less
> that $1600" to crank out a duplicate card using "published documents"
> as a guide. Is such equipment still "readily available" and what
> would the "published documents" be? Is this a widespread problem in
> the U.S.?
Depending on the bank's standards, you could conceivably do this. You
need a source of blank magstripe cards, and a magstripe programmer/
reader. Most bank cards adhere to a standard for placing account numbers,
pins, etc., in certain locations (otherwise how could you use your
card in a foreign machine?) so if you can find that document in your
research, then you should, fairly easily, be able to make a basic card
which will work at the ATM. About a year ago in MA a couple of guys
set up fake ATM machines at local shopping malls, and collected
people's account/pin numbers, manufactured their own duplicate cards,
and then started withdrawing money from people's accounts.
------------------------------
From: mccallj@gov.on.ca (Joan McCalla)
Subject: Environmental Network Funded by Ontario Government
Organization: Government of Ontario
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 17:56:22 GMT
July 21, 1994
Ontario's First Electronic Environmental Network Receives
$1.2 million from Province
TORONTO - The jobsOntario program is providing a $1.2 million
grant to launch the first province-wide electronic environmental
network Ontario Minister of Economic Development and Trade Minister
Frances Lankin announced today.
The $3.1 million Environmental Inter-Network (EIN) will link
hundreds of separate sources of environmental information into a
single, user-friendly network. It is also expected to create some 70
new person- years of direct employment in its first three years and
result in 14 to 20 full-time permanent jobs.
"Our investment in Ontario's information infrastructure is an
investment in the jobs of the future," said Ms. Lankin. "It helps us
develop the skills, technology and network capacity needed in a
modern, vibrant economy. This network will use Ontario-developed
technology and foster other network-related products and services."
The project was developed by Ontario Environmental Network
(OEN), an association serving more than 500 Ontario environmental
groups, and NirvCentre(Web), a not-for-profit network operation. Other
partners include the Recycling Council of Ontario, the International
Institute for Sustainable Development, York University and Open Text
Corporation. Within three years the network is expected to have 1,300
active users including not-for-profit organizations, corporations,
government agencies and individuals.
"Projects such as the EIN demonstrate that effective
telecommunications infrastructure can be used in innovative ways,"
said Ms. Lankin. "This network will boost efforts to protect the
environment by making it easier for groups and individuals to access
information and communicate with each other."
She noted that the network is itself environmentally friendly,
since it reduces the need for paper, while disseminating large amounts
of information. The network is expected to be fully operational by
this September.
"Building on state-of-the-art technology, EIN is a ground-breaking
effort to build an on-line community of information providers,
environmental organizations, businesses and individuals," said Kirk
Roberts, Executive Director of NirvCentre(Web).
"For environmentalists using the EIN, everything from research
to networking to public education can now be achieved more
effectively," said Irene Kock, Co-chair of the Ontario Environment
Network Steering Committee.
"Today's announcement reflects our sector development approach
to economic renewal," said Ms. Lankin. "We are working with various
sectors, including telecommunications, computing and environmental
protection, to help our economy become more competitive and create the
high-skill, long- term jobs of the future."
Provincial support for this network comes from the Ontario
Network Infrastructure Program, a $100 million jobsOntario Capital
initiative. It was established to help increase access to and the
development of an advanced information infrastructure throughout
Ontario. This investment was recommended in the province's
telecommunications sector strategy, released in February 1993.
Contacts: Lucy Rybka-Becker, Minister's Office
(416) 325-6909
John Cooper, Marketing & Public Affairs Branch
(416) 325-6694
Internet address: mccallj@gov.on.ca
Editor's Note: contact lists of Ontario Environmental Network members
located throughout the province are also available.
------------------------------
From: mauss@manekenpix.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Oliver Mauss)
Subject: Mobitex Standard Description Wanted
Date: 21 Jul 1994 13:06:41 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik - RWTH Aachen
I have unsuccessfully been looking for a detailed description of the
link layer for the Ericsson Mobitex system. I know about the frame
structure and coding scheme, but would also like some information on
the specified channel model, modulation/filtering parameters, required
BER, etc. Can anyone give me a hint where to look?
Also, I would appreciate it if anyone knew any papers describing
Mobitex modem designs.
Thanks in advance,
Oliver C. Mauss | Aachen University of Technology - RWTH
| Integrated Systems for Signal Processing
phone: +49 (0)241 80 7632 | ISS - 611810
fax: +49 (0)241 8888 195 | Templergraben 55
mauss@ert.rwth-aachen.de | 52056 Aachen, Germany
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 15:03:59 MDT
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "The PC Internet Tour Guide" by Fraase
BKPCINTG.RVW 940428
Ventana Press, Inc.
P.O. Box 2468
Chapel Hill, NC 27515
919/942-0220 FAX 919/942-1140
dilennox@aol.com lwenzel@aol.com
"The PC Internet Tour Guide", Fraase, 1994, 1-56604-084-1, U$24.95
mfraase@farces.com
Fraase's book is a real grab bag. Written (on a Mac) by someone who
admits to having an aversion to MS-DOS, it really has little system
specificity other than the PC basis of the programs on the included
disk. It has some good information, some excellent writing, some
gaps, some errors, some promises and a lot of graphics (of which the
author seems inordinately fond).
Overall, the discussion of Internet applications and use covers the
major topics, and gives the new user a reasonable understanding of the
basic tools. The chapter on "Getting Connected" proposes a very
broadly based and helpfully divided overview of the various options.
It starts with talk of the university, government, and corporate
options, of which many potential users remain unaware. The difference
between dedicated dial-up IP and dial-up terminal is raised, although
the promised discussion of dial-up terminal and commercial "email
gateway" access never seems to materialize. The personal and
community aspects of the net get a lot of space. Some important, but
often neglected, aspects of file characteristics and transfer are
raised, albeit briefly. The "Neat Stuff" section really does have
some interesting and little known resources.
On the other hand, the quality of the information is very uneven. The
setup of the included programs is said to be easy, but I suspect that
a very thorough familiarity with modems would be needed in view of the
extremely brief instructions for the SLIP software configuration. The
"points of interest" are interesting, but seldom have anything to do
with the surrounding text. (A pleasant exception to this are some of
the useful and helpful points in the email section.) The directions
on how to use and access resources on the net are *not* going to be
helpful unless you are using the included software (and that type of
dial-up connection). Every set of directions starts with UMSLIP, and
most use gopher, even where email or telnet would be faster and more
efficient. There are a number of dated addresses, as well as some
that are just plain wrong (one suspects through bad editing).
Seasoned Internauts will be able to correct these errors, but then,
seasoned Internauts aren't likely to be using the book. (Some of the
errors relate to DOS rather than the net: the LHA program, for
example, produces files with an .lzh extension rather than .lha. Again,
MS-DOS users familiar with BBSes are unlikely to have problems.)
At one seminar I was told to promote this book because it had
software. The software included may be useful, depending upon the
user's level of access to the net, but is neither necessary nor
unique. Providers that do handle IP access can also handle terminal
access, but many access providers cannot provide IP access at all. In
any case, (as the book states almost every time UMSLIP is mentioned),
both UMSLIP and Minuet are shareware, and available online. (It is
also interesting to note that the book acknowledges the superiority of
PPP to SLIP -- but provides SLIP.) (In any case, I can't comment on
the program disk -- my review copy came without one.)
An interesting feature is the promise of an electronic update to the
guide, distributed via electronic mail. The book has a coupon for two
of the quarterly updates free; regular price is $25 per year. I'll
try to add a note to a later edition of this review.
For those who want to set up a direct IP connection quickly, (particularly
for residents of Minnesota,) this is probably your book. The tools
are "real" TCP/IP programs, without the UUCP limitations of "The DOS
User's Guide to the Internet" (cf BKDOSINT.RVW).
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1994 BKPCINTG.RVW 940428. Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated newsgroups/mailing lists.
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Research into rslade@cue.bc.ca
User p1@CyberStore.ca
Security Canada V7K 2G6
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From: dk@crl.com (David A. Kaye)
Subject: Re: CWA Charges Sprint With Illegal Action
Date: 21 Jul 1994 15:25:18 -0700
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest]
Phillip Dampier (phil@rochgte.fidonet.org) wrote:
> Sprint Long Distance illegally shut down a San Francisco subsidiary
> that markets services to the Spanish-speaking community just one week
> before the 177 workers were set to vote on unionizing in a National
> Labor Relations Board election, the Communications Workers of America
> declared in charges filed with the NLRB.
According to the afternoon {San Fransisco Examiner}, Sprint regularly
told its managers that it was their "duty" to prevent unionization
votes in their offices and that they should do anything in their power
to prevent them. Apparently, according to the article, this is policy
througout Sprint, not just in the La Familia operation.
Effective two days ago I am making all my LD calls with 10288 until I
get around to changing my dial-1 situation. Nominally, I make about
$250 of inter-LATA calls a month. At least AT&T is unionized, gives
rate info instantly, and has a domestic partners plan in action.
Neither MCI nor Sprint can offer those.
dk@crl.com National Car Rentals now includes domestic
San Francisco partners in rental agreements at no extra cost!
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From: jlundgr@eis.calstate.edu (John E. Lundgren)
Subject: Re: Conference Call Circuit?
Date: 21 Jul 1994 19:52:30 -0700
Organization: California Technology Project of The Calif State Univ
Todd McLaughlin <toddm@rahul.net> writes:
> I've made a simple circuit between my two phone lines so I can host a
> conference call. The sound quality is rather disappointing, though.
> The second call that is made sounds very distant. I'm guessing a
> simple amplifier would fix the problem. A friend said I needed to get
> a phone transformer, but he didn't seem to know much about it. Has
> anyone else done this with promising results? Or if someone can tell
> me a bit about the phone transformer ...
The transformer that you need is really two hybrid phone patches
back-to-back. The two wire circuit has to be split into a four-wire
circuit with a send pair and a receive pair. Then the amplifiers (2) can
be put from the send pair of the first line to the receive pair of the
second line, and vice-versa. But it has to be a good match so that you
won't get ringing and instability.
Another method is to use a gyrator, or negative impedance converter, I
think that's what the phone co used to call it.
John Lundgren jlundgr@eis.calstate.edu
jlundgre@pop.rancho.cc.ca.us
Rancho Santiago College - 17th St. at Bristol - Santa Ana, CA 92706
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Subject: TELECOM Digest V14 #332
TELECOM Digest Fri, 22 Jul 94 16:37:00 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 332
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
AT&T True Voice Patent Re-examination Requested (John Berryhill)
Need to Know How/What Vendors For Wireless LANS (Brad Block)
Phone Installation Error (Brian Gordon)
Re: Camelot on the Moon! (Mark James)
Minneapolis Macintosh Job Openings (Kelly Breit)
Request: Available Code Libraries? (Jim Maslanka)
Leahy on Gore Clipper Letter 7/21/94 (Dave Banisar)
Ramparts Magazine (Gary D. Shapiro)
Famous Phone Numbers From Songs and Such (Robert Casey)
Crain's NY Business Article (James Taranto)
Equipment For IVR (Phone Menus) (Hugh Fader)
Re: *78/*780 Added to BAMS/DC (Raymond Okonski)
SS-1 Signaling (Nick Xidis)
Help Needed Getting -48 Power (Mark Kelly)
Re: Last Laugh! Telephone Connections as Explained on Usenet (Al Mcintosh)
Re: Last Laugh! Telephone Connections as Explained on Usenet (J. McKeough)
Re: Last Laugh! Telephone Connections as Explained on Usenet (kronos)
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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 94 23:00:56 EDT
From: Berryh@huey.udel.edu
Subject: AT&T True Voice Patent Re-examination Requested
A Request for Re-examination is being filed today with the United
States Patent and Trademark Office relative to U.S. Patent No.
5,195,132 to Bowker et al. entitled "Telephone Network Speech Signal
Enhancement" and assigned to AT&T Bell Laboratories.
The Request is being made by Roger W. Herrell and John B. Berryhill of
Dann, Dorfman, Herrell, and Skillman. The text of the Request will be
made available via anonymous ftp at a location to be announced.
Under 37 CFR 1.501, any person may submit prior art to the Patent
Office free of charge. These submissions will be considered during
any Re-examination proceedings. If you would like to recieve free
information on how you may participate in having the Bowker patent
invalidated, send a self-addressed stamped envelope to:
Dr. John Berryhill
1601 Market Street, Suite 720
Philadelphia, PA 19103
If you are in the telecommunications industry, please pass this
message along to your legal department.
Further information about the procedure for submitting prior art to
the Patent Office, and about the Reexamination Request, is being
posted to misc.int-property and other pertinent newsgroups.
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From: bradb@bronze.coil.com (Brad Block)
Subject: Need to Know How/What Vendors For Wireless LANS
Date: 22 Jul 1994 00:20:51 -0400
Organization: Central Ohio Internet Link
I need to know if I can distribute IP packets over a Wir eless
trasnmittor of some sort and if so, what range can be assumed and also
who do I look to for vendors?
Thanks!
Brad Block
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From: briang@netcom.com (Brian Gordon)
Subject: Phone Installation Error
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 15:46:47 GMT
I had some more phone lines installed the other day, and had the local
telco do the required (extensive) inside wiring for them. The
installer called each line to demonstrate that each worked and then
left. When I first tried to call out on one of them, the keypad would
break dialtone but not gnerate tone. Two hours of work blown by a
simple miswiring! "611" fixed it at the central office and will drop
by today to do a permanent fix at the demarc. You pay the
professionals so you don't have that kind of hassle, don't you? :-(
Brian G. Gordon briang@netcom.COM bgg on DELPHI
70243,3012 on Compu$erve BGordon on GENie BGordon2 on AOL
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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 13:59 EDT
From: jamesm@dialogic.com (Mark James)
Subject: Re: Camelot on the Moon!
Organization: Dialogic Corporation, Parsippany NJ
In article <telecom14.322.3@eecs.nwu.edu> TELECOM Digest Editor noted:
> Did anyone get to watch the explosion?
Our local astronomy club installed a video camera onto a 14-inch
diameter telescope and invited the neighbors in to watch the impact of
"fragment B" on TV. Unfortunately, you needed a much larger scope
than that. We saw nothing unusual.
> How long have we known about the Jupiter incident? Seems to me at
> least a few years ago they had the date for it established. PAT]
The comet was discovered only last year, and it was September before
its orbital parameters were known with enough precision to make a
confident prediction of a crash.
If you'd like more depth on this topic than CNN sound bites, check out
the discussions in the sci.astro newsgroup.
Mark James <jamesm@dialogic.com>
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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 19:32:13 -0500
From: Kelly Breit@MR.Net
Subject: Minneapolis Macintosh Job Openings
I am enclosing two job postings for First Tech Computer, the largest
Macintosh dealer in the Minneapolis area. If you are interested,
please send resumes only to the address or fax listed. Please feel
free to post the full content in any appropriate place.
MACINTOSH SERVICE TECHNICIAN
Opening for Mac service technician. Experienced on Mac systems,
hardware repair and laser printers is a must. Opportunity to advance
with leading edge of technology. Work for the leader in Macintosh
knowledge and expertise. We offer excellent training programs and
great benefits.
MACINTOSH TECHNICAL SUPPORT TECHNICIAN
Opening for experienced support technician. Extensive knowledge of
Mac application software and product knowledge is a must. Support
high end Macintosh solutions. Additional knowledge in Novel and
networks is a plus for the serious candidate. PowerBook provided for
daily use. We offer excellent training programs and great benefits.
Send resumes, indicating desired position, by mail or fax to:
FIRST TECH COMPUTER
Attn: Service Manager
2640 Hennepin Ave
Minneapolis, MN 55408
Fax 612-374-8095
EEO/AA Employer
Kelly Breit
International Telecommunications Engineering, Inc. (dba ITE)
<Telecommunications Consultants>
6009 Wayzata Blvd., Suite 103 * Minneapolis, MN 55416-1623
612-542-9440 * 612-542-9341 Fax * Internet: breit@mr.net
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From: jmasl@cybl51.fnbc.com (Jim Maslanka)
Subject: Request: Available Code Libraries?
Reply-To: jmasl@juliet.fnbc.com
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 20:00:02 GMT
We are looking for commercially available code libraries to support
interprocess communications in the following environments:
- Between Unix processes via TCP
- Between Unix and MVS processes via TCP and/or SNA
Any information or suggestions will be appreciated.
Please respond via c.d.t or email direct to:
mdl@fnbc.com Mike Lamble
jmasl@fnbc.com Jim Maslanka
Thanks in advance, Jim Maslanka 1st Nat'l Bank of Chicago
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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 16:35:07 +0000
From: Dave Banisar <banisar@epic.org>
Subject: Leahy on Gore Clipper Letter 7/21/94
U.S. SENATOR PATRICK LEAHY - Vermont
STATEMENT OF PATRICK LEAHY ON
VICE PRESIDENT GORE'S CLIPPER CHIP LETTER
July 21, 1994
I have read the July 20th letter from the Vice President about
the Administration's current thinking on Clipper Chip and, to my mind,
it represents no change in policy. In fact, when this letter was
sent, I would be surprised if the Administration even thought it was
news.
The letter makes clear to me that the Administration continues to
embrace key escrow encryption technology, and stands behind Clipper
Chip as a federal standard for telephone communications. The official
standard makes clear that this standard applies to any communications
over telephone lines. Those communications include not only voice,
but also low-speed computer data and facsimile messages. The
Administration is working on encryption technologies for higher-speed
transmissions, such as for computer networks and video networks.
The Vice President says that they want to work with industry to
design a key escrow system that could be implemented not just in
hardware, but also in software, that would be voluntary, exportable
and not rely upon a classified encoding formula. The Administration
said all this last February when the federal standard was approved.
Yet, when Administration witnesses were questioned about the progress
they had made in this effort at my Judiciary subcommittee hearing in
early May, I learned they had held only a few meetings.
Last week, the Appropriations Committee accepted strong Report
language I suggested on Clipper Chip. The Attorney General is
directed to report to Congress within four months on ten areas of
concern about Clipper Chip.
I agree with the Vice President that balancing economic and
privacy needs with law enforcement and national security is not always
an easy task. But we can do better than Clipper Chip.
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1994 00:32:29 PDT
From: Gary D. Shapiro <gshapiro@rain.org>
Subject: Ramparts Magazine
The best I can recall is that {Ramparts} stopped publishing early in
the 70s. BTW, {Ramparts} started out as a non-mainstream Catholic
magazine.
I would consider {Mother Jones} magazine to be the successor to
{Ramparts}.
I'm rather odd myself.
Gary D. Shapiro <gshapiro@rain.org> Santa Barbara, California
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I used to be odd for quite a few years
until I decided to re-evaluate myself. Now I consider myself mainstream
sort of. I won't say what stream I am part of <g> ... One of the great
heroines of our past: "Mother" Emma Jones. A social worker and civic
conscience of the 19th century, Ms. Jones was once asked by a federal
bureaucrat what was her occupation; what she did for a living. She looked
at him and bellowed, "My occupation? I'm a hell raiser!". Indeed she was.
I can't say that I agree now (or would have back then) with everything
she preached, but that's not necessary for someone to be a hero(ine) of
mine; merely that they believe what they say and live it as best they can.
And she did make a difference in the lives of many people in her time. PAT]
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From: wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey)
Subject: Famous Phone Numbers From Songs and Such
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 13:01:26 GMT
From time to time, a pop record appears with a real (non 555-xxxx)
phone number in it. Like "Jenny, 867-5309", "BEachwood 4-5789", or a
number mumbled in a heavy metal song "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap".
And another song "Don't call us, We'll call You" (Sugarloaf?) had some
touch tones in the background. I suppose there exists a list of valid
but unusable phone numbers due to popular song lyrics.
Like:
867-5309
BE4-5789
( ) (Dirty Deeds ...)
( ) (Dont Call Us...)
Pennsylvania 6-5000
Why did the phone system make exchange 555 not useable, other than
555-1212? Other than maybe a certain "club" in the South might
request all its phone numbers from that exchange. (Look at the center
letter on the "5" key on your phone).
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: PEnnsylvania-6-5000 has been the phone
number of a hotel in New York for sixty years or more. There are other
telco things on 555 in addition to 1212. The AT&T teletype relay operator
for aurally impaired people is on there somewhere, and a couple other
things. PAT]
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From: taranto@panix.com (James Taranto)
Subject: Crain's NY Business Article
Date: 22 Jul 1994 13:34:16 GMT
Organization: The Bad Taranto
The July 18 issue of {Crain's New York Business} has an article on the
switch to NNX area codes. It includes the following statement:
Another, perhaps less important, change is the allowance of a zero or
one as the first digit of a local phone call, currently prohibited.
Can this possibly be right? Or is the author referring to 1 or 0
being allowed as the middle digit of a local exchange, which of course
has been the case in some places for as long as 20 years?
Cheers,
James Taranto taranto@panix.com
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From: hfader@etch47.eld.ford.com (H O Fader (Hugh))
Subject: Equipment For IVR (Phone Menus)
Date: 22 Jul 1994 12:42:49 GMT
Organization: ECC at Ford Motor Company, Dearborn Michigan
I am working on a project for a networks class that involves
Interactive Voice Response, AKA phone menus. The system must process
~100 calls simultaneously. It will be connected to a mainframe
computer.
Can anybody out there give me an idea of the equipment, software, and
money that would be required to implement one of these systems?
Thanks in advance.
Hugh Fader Ford Motor Company
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From: buzby@cix.compulink.co.uk (Raymond Okonski)
Reply-To: buzby@cix.compulink.co.uk
Subject: Re: *78/*780 Added to BAMS/DC
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 03:57:32 PDT
Arriving in Dublin with a GSM Cellular (digital) phone, I was
expecting service on the local 'Eircell' network, with calls being
billed to my home UK 'Vodafone' network. Having received and made a
number of calls, things were going well, until I tried to make a 'toll
free' call to a 1-800 number. The call was rejected. Replacing the
GSM Vodafone SIM card with local carrier Eircell, the 1-800 call could
be made with no difficulty. This state of affairs has existed since
the Irish GSM network went live in 1992, but I thought I would
complain about the anomaly. Customer Services denied there was a
problem "all roamed users on our network can dial the same numbers as
our Irish customers." Trying again, the call still failed.
[As did ALL calls to any number commencing with "1" - Freefone,
Directory Enquiries etc - the only exception was 112 the European
Emergency Services code].
Complaining again, two hours later I received a call from the mobile
network engineers, saying that access had indeed been blocked (in
error) and was now fully open. This opened up an interesting
situation where Eircell DO NOT CHARGE for calls to DQ and 1-800
numbers, where in the UK these calls are charged at premium rates. It
will be interesting to see if Eircell will pass the information that
it was a free call to my home network, and then watch the home network
attempt to extract a fee for a correctly connected toll-free call.
Raymond Okonski
Raymond (+353 1)
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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 11:39:37 EST
From: Nick_Xidis_at_ZSEAFS@mail.hq.faa.gov
Subject: SS-1 Signaling
Background:
Selective Signaling is a system that sends operator dialed
digits over an analog private line circuit. The digits are
encoded as a series of 2600 Hz pulses with 2400 Hz between
pulses. Normally SS-1 circuits do not have any supervision
i.e., the talk path is always there. This is a very old type
of signaling and I think it was only used by the goverment.
My Question:
Are there any companies that are currently manufacturing test
equipment for Selective Signaling (SS-1) signaling circuits? We have
only found one (Ameritec) that offers SS-1 as an option to one of
their test sets.
Also, are there any archive files that cover history, development, or
technical specifications for SS-1 circuits and test equipment.
Thank You,
Nick Xidis
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From: mkelly@gabriel.resudox.net (Mark Kelly)
Subject: Help Needed Getting -48 Power
Date: 22 Jul 1994 00:23:47 GMT
Organization: Resudox Online Services
Can anyone provide a recommendation (or experiences) on producing -48
power in an standard business office environment? I know of a supplier
in Montreal, Quebec, Canada who can provide 120AC to -48DC called
Lambda Electronics but it looks like I'll be hit with a price tag of
about $40K Canadian. I need about 250 amps at -48.
Also, what about backup power, say 10-15 minutes worth. I don't
particularly want a bank of car batteries but ...
Thanks,
Mark Kelly
Advanced Multi-Point Conferencing
320 March Road, Suite 102
Kanata, Ontario K2L 1Z8
1-613-592-5752 1-800-900-4249
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From: mcintosh@larch.bellcore.com (Allen Mcintosh)
Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Telephone Connections as Explained on Usenet
Date: 22 Jul 1994 12:51:53 GMT
Organization: Bellcore, Morristown NJ
In article <telecom14.326.17@eecs.nwu.edu>, the TELECOM Digest Editor wrote:
> There is no such modern word as 'rampart' by the way. It is an
> archaism last used in middle French/English dating from about 1583 or
> so and it roughly translates in modern English to 'a hole dug in the
> ground behind a large pile of dirt or behind a hill where one can hide
> (in the hole) to watch one's enemies without being seen ...'. The
> magazine took its name from the first stanza of {The Star Spangled
> Banner} written by Francis Scott Key with its words, 'whose broad
> stripes and bright stars / through the perilous night / from [sic] the
> ramparts we watched / were so gallantly streaming ..'.
The "ramparts" the poem refers to were on an American fort in the war
of 1812-1814. I suppose one could argue that this isn't "modern"...
For the terminally curious, our online version of Collins English Dictionary
defines "rampart" as follows:
CED
#Hram#+part #5(#!r@amp$a$:t) #6n.
@n#1$D. #5the surrounding embankment of a fort, often including any walls,
etc., that are built on the bank. @n#1$D. #5anything resembling a rampart in
form or function, esp. in being a defence or bulwark. @m#1?-#6vb.
@n#1$D. #5(#6tr.#5) to provide with a rampart; fortify.
@m[C16: from Old French, from #6remparer, #5from #7re#5-@t#7#+@t#6emparer #5to
take possession of, from Old Proven*,cal #6antparar, #5from Latin #6ante
#5before@t#+@t#6par*_are #5to prepare]
The Oxford English Dictionary defines "rampart" as follows:
1. Fortif. A mound of earth raised for the defence of a place, capable of
resisting cannon-shot, wide enough on top for the passage of troops, guns,
etc., and usually surmounted by a stone parapet.
[followed by citations dated from 1583 to 1880. Interestingly enough, The
Star Spangled Banner is not among them.]
2. Canad. A steep bank of a river or gorge. Usu. pl.
[followed by citations dated from 1853 to 1973.]
3. attrib. and Comb., as rampart-base, communication, -height, -line, -walk.
[followed by citations dated from 1799 to 1923.]
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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 12:07:05 -0400
From: jwm@student.umass.edu (Jeffrey W. McKeough)
Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Telephone Connections as Explained on Usenet
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
I don't find this surprising in the least. I've been following the
goings-on over at alt.2600, where there was a heated discussion about
whether or not the Repeat Call feature would produce audible
touchtones. There are an astounding number of people who inquire in
hushed-tone ASCII about such renegade features as the *67 CNID privacy
toggle ("CALLER ID DEFEAT FOUND!"), or who express amazement upon
finding out that recipients (read: the people who pay) for 800 calls
can receive ANI. Half of the things that enthrall these people can be
found in the front matter of the telephone directory, and the other
half can be found in the Digest.
The idea that telephone company secrets are illegal to possess or
discuss came up in a brief e-mail correspondence. I referred to a
feature description from an AT&T manual, purchased from the CIC. The
wannabe hackerphreak in question became very excited at the prospect
of my having this information and wanted to know where I stole it
from! (I really wanted to make up a little tale about a nocturnal
trip to my local CO, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it.)
This being the post-divestiture era, these sorts of inquiries are not
limited to phreaks. There was a post on several of the soc.culture
groups from an LD reseller, asking people to send rate quotes for a
one-minute call from their country to the US. I would guess that a
few simple phone calls could glean this information (and more
accurately) from national PTT's and major service providers. Of
course, then the reseller might have to *pay* for his market research.
Something tells me that AT&T and MCI use somewhat more advanced
methods.
I hate to think that I'm as cynical as our Moderator on this issue ;-)
but lately it seems as though the old poem should go "30 days have
September, April, June and November, except on Usenet, where September
has 365."
Jeffrey William McKeough jwm@student.umass.edu
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And furthermore, every day is April 1,
although they do not realize it. Usenet is sinking to its least common
denominator, face it. It was fun while it lasted. I can speak only with
authority for myself, but other mailing list moderators have reported
similarly that people are quicklu choosing to read and participate only
in moderated groups or private lists such as this one. They just can't
handle the noise any longer. PAT]
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From: bkron@netcom.com (Kronos)
Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Telephone Connections as Explained on Usenet
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 05:55:14 GMT
jlundgre@ohlone.kn.PacBell.COM (John Lundgren) writes:
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: John Lundgren found this gem of wisdom
> on some Usenet group somewhere and passed it along ...
Aw, come on. Based on the grammar and spelling, I'd say its just some
young kids. But, maybe not! I'm hearing "Dueling Banjos!"
I remember picking up the phone on our old Western SXS when I was a
kid (or was it my friend's Automatic GTE SXS?) and noticing that there
would appear to be no voltage for just a moment because there was no
sidetone. Immediately upon going off hook, there was sidetone, then
no sidetone, then dialtone. I never thought this was because they
were "switching batteries." (That was pretty funny) I just assumed
that the line was momentarily open while the line finder worked. But
maybe the guy authoring the posted opinions drew the wrong conclusion.
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Subject: TELECOM Digest V14 #333
TELECOM Digest Mon, 25 Jul 94 14:34:00 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 333
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
GSM Tariffs in Europe (Alfredo E. Cotroneo)
EMA/IC Information Wanted (Roberto Irribarren)
Residential Phone/Data Wiring (Jeff Brown)
Mobile94 Workshop Deadline 8/20 (Darrell Long)
Employment Opportunities in Korea (Hanwook Jung)
Looking to Share a T1 in Chicago (Jonathan Lieberman)
Looking for Fractional T1 (Tim Mangan)
Information on Telemarketing Lawsuits Wanted (John Murray)
Who and Where is Northwestern Bell? (Jeffrey W. McKeough)
Would Appreciate Information on AFRISAT (Herb Effron)
Dialogic Cards and RING Help Please (Chas. Watkins)
Voice-Activated Call (Marida Ignacio)
Information Wanted on Home System Standard (Keith H. K. Chow)
Need Help on Specifications For Telcom Bid! (Daniel E. Collins)
ETSI Reports Wanted (Lars Kalsen)
UC Berkeley Short Courses on Broadband Communications (Harvey Stern)
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From: 100020.1013@compuserve.com (Alfredo E. Cotroneo)
Subject: GSM Tariffs in Europe
Date: 25 Jul 1994 14:04:05 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
I had the opportunity to play around with a new GSM phone last
weekend, and was amazed by the features offered by this service, some
real, some still non-implemented (e.g. call forward). I travelled by
car from Milano, Italy, to Genova, and then West to the border with
France on the Italian riviera. I had almost everywhere good coverage
on the motorway and over the coast. Coverage appeared to be everywhere
on the road the same as for the other analogue (900 MHz, TACS)
cellular phone. To my surprise at the place of my stay some 15 km from
the French border, I realized that with the GSM phone I had the option
of using one of THREE (!) available networks (one Italian and two
French). [US readers please do not laugh: phones in Europe are still
a monopoly in most countries :<( ]
As soon as I realized that I could make a call to France via one of
the the French telephone networks, thus bypassing the Italian
operator, I tried to find out more about the different rates, and rate
systems, used by the different GSM operators. Unfortunately, after
calling the Italian operator "SIP" on 119, they suggested that I
placed an Int'l paid call to each operator to get their tariffs (They
gladly provided me with their numbers in Paris, good only during
business hours Mon-Fri). This makes quite difficult and expensive to
get a clear picture, and e.g. select the best operator in countries
where more than one exists (e.g. France, Germany, UK, etc.).
If not supplied already, it would be helpful to the European GSM
owners if anyone could point out which are the current tariffs for
long distance and international calls when roaming in European
countries served by the GSM system, or at least provide the respective
GSM operators' toll free assitance number, which may be called when
entering a new network. How could one decide which operator to use?
Maybe stopping at the first telephone boot when crossing the border
and have a look at the telephone directory? I would probably have to
stop at each operatr's telephone boot, which makes it most annoying
especially when you travel on motorways ;<) .
I will be glad to pass on any information on rates you may subject
when roaming thru the Italian SIP operator. Or you may call toll free
119 when you switch to the SIP network in Italy.
Any help will be gladly appreciated, and if there's enough interest I
will be glad to summarize. Please reply directly since I may not read
the news from here.
I also found most annoying to try calling Italy from France by
dialling 0039-XXXXX, and then today back at home I learned from my
telephone directory that in France you get access to the international
lines by dialing 19-39-XXXXXX; the situation is -- sadly -- all the
same non standard and most confusing when you dial e.g. from Austria:
00-40-XXXXX, Spain: 07-39-XXXXXX, the UK: 010-39-XXXXX, or Norway:
095-39-XXXXXXX). It's not a mistype, Austria disregards completely
Italy's country code by making it 40 instead of 39.
Alfredo E. Cotroneo, President, NEXUS-IBA, PO Box 10980, I-20110 Milano, Italy
Phone: +39-337-297788 / +39-2-2666971 / email: 100020.1013@compuserve.com
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From: roberto@netcom.com (Roberto Irribarren)
Subject: EMA/IC Information Wanted
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 16:11:40 GMT
I read a reprint of {Network World} (July 18th), in which it talks about
a certain Electronic Messaging Association (EMA) Interoperability
Committee that will produce a joint protocol for electronic and voice
mail exchange ... does anyone out there know how to get in touch with
Mr. Ron Rassner or this organization?
Thanks in advance.
Please send e-mail to roberto@centigram.com or roberto@netcom.com
Roberto Irribarren | Centigram Communications Corp.
Director of Int'l Eng | 91 E Tasman Dr.
and Advanced Appl. | San Jose, CA 95134 USA
(408) 428-3516 direct voice/VoiceMail
(408) 428-3827 Fax (408) 894-8416 FaxMail
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From: edjcb@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Jeff Brown)
Subject: Residential Phone/Data Wiring
Date: 25 Jul 1994 12:48 EDT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
In new residential construction, what is the sensible and/or creative
way to run phone and data lines? I'm thinking about pulling four pair
category 3 cable from a 66 or mini block in the basement to a box in
each room. I'll use one pair to each room for primary house phone,
the others as needed for more phone lines or in-house LAN. At the
block, I'll punch as necessary to get what I need. I'll also pull
coax to the same location for cable TV. Problems? Suggestions?
Thanks,
Jeff Brown edjcb@scivax.lerc.nasa.gov
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From: darrell@cse.ucsc.edu (Darrell Long)
Subject: Mobile94 Workshop Deadline 8/20
Date: 23 Jul 1994 20:41:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
WORKSHOP ON MOBILE COMPUTING SYSTEMS AND APPLICATIONS
DECEMBER 8-9 1994
DREAM INN, SANTA CRUZ, CA
Sponsored by the IEEE Computer Society TCOS
(in cooperation with ACM SIGOPS and USENIX Association)
General Chair Darrell Long, University of California, Santa Cruz
Program Chair M. Satyanarayanan, Carnegie Mellon University
Exhibits Peter Honeyman, University of Michigan
Finance & Registration
Richard Golding, Hewlett-Packard
Publication Luis-Felipe Cabrera, IBM Almaden
Program Committee
Dan Duchamp, Columbia University
Peter Honeyman, University of Michigan
Randy Katz, UC Berkeley & ARPA
Jay Kistler, DEC SRC
Krishan Sabnani, AT&T Holmdel
M. Satyanarayanan, Carnegie Mellon University
Amal Shaheen, IBM Austin
Marvin Theimer, Xerox PARC
Rich Wolff, Bellcore
A major challenge of this decade is the effective exploitation of two
symbiotic technologies: portable computers and wireless networks.
Harnessing these technologies will dramatically change the computing
landscape. But realizing the full potential of the resulting mobile
computing systems will require advances in many areas such as:
hardware communications scalability power management
security data access user interfaces location sensitivity
The goal of this workshop is to foster exchange of ideas in mobile
computing among workers in the field. Attendance will be limited to
about 60 participants, based on the position papers submitted.
Submissions should be fewer than five pages in length and may expose a
new problem, advocate a specific solution, or report on actual
experience.
In addition, we will be hosting a small number of novel hardware and
software exhibits relevant to mobile computing. The exhibits may be
research prototypes or commercial products. Interested parties should
submit technical descriptions of their exhibits.
Online copies of the position papers will be made available via
anonymous FTP prior to the workshop. A printed proceedings will be
published after the workshop, and mailed to participants.
A small number of graduate students will be granted a waiver of the
registration fee. In return, these students will be required to take
notes at the workshop and help put together the proceedings. Students
who wish to be considered for the waiver must send in a brief
description of their current research, and an explanation of how
participation in the workshop is likely to help them.
Send ten copies of position papers to:
M. Satyanarayanan Email: satya@cs.cmu.edu
School of Computer Science Phone: (412)-268-3743
Carnegie Mellon University Fax: (412)-681-5739
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
Send exhibit descriptions to:
Peter Honeyman Email: honey@citi.umich.edu
CITI Phone: (313)-763-4413
University of Michigan Fax: (313)-763-4434
Ann Arbor, MI 48103-4943
IMPORTANT DATES
Submissions due August 20 1994
Acceptance Notification October 1 1994
Camera-ready copy due November 15 1994
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From: hjung@acsu.buffalo.edu (Hanwook Jung)
Subject: Employment Opportunities in Korea
Organization: UB
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 12:59:49 GMT
Korea Mobile Telecom(KMT) Research Center in Taejon, Korea, invites
experienced and retired engineers in the area of mobile cellular
telecommunications.
The applicants should have experiences in following areas:
* radio frequency(RF) design(800MHz~2.2GHz)
* system desin for personal communications service(PCS)
* operation of the EEsof and related telecommunication software tool.
Bachelor's or master's degree in EE or related areas are required.
The contract period will be six months to one year (can be extended)
and start in fall. Local interview can be arranged around August or
early September this year. Salary is around $50,000 per year which is
negotiable. The apartment and roundtrip airfare will be provided.
Please send resume to the one of the following ways:
1. Address:
Korea Mobile Telecom(KMT) Research Center
Attn. Dr. Yongwan Park
58-4, Hwaam-Dong, Yoosoung-Gu, Taejon, Korea
2. Fax: +82-42-865-0767
3. E-mail: ypark@kmnms4.kmt.re.kr
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From: Jonathan Lieberman <lie6@bio-3.bsd.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Looking to Share a T1 in Chicago
Organization: The University of Chicago
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 05:38:10 GMT
Is anybody interested in sharing a leased T1 connection to the net,
and presumably office space (of an inexpensive nature) as well
(because otherwise it is a little tricky to share the T1)?
A T1 provides 1.544 Megabits per second through put and generally
costs in the neighborhood of $1000 a month.
Thanks,
Jonathan
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Subject: Looking for Fractional T1
From: tim.mangan@channel1.com (Tim Mangan)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 06:43:00 -0400
Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info
> I am looking for csu/dsu's that can handle sppeds from fractional t1
> (128k) to full t1. I guess this is referred to as a multirate CSU/DSU
TyLink (my employer) has products to meet the need.
ONS150: Single DTE to T1, data rates from 56/64K to 1.536M.
ONS400: 2-4 Port DTE to T1, data rates at Nx8K from 8K to
1.536M.
Products are sold direct, or via many regional and national
distributors. Call 1-800-828-2785 or 1-508-285-0033.
Tim Mangan (tman@internet.tylink.com)
------------------------------
From: jxm@engin.umich.edu (John Murray)
Subject: Information on Telemarketing Lawsuits Wanted
Date: 25 Jul 1994 18:52:11 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Hello all,
I'm considering taking legal action against the company which provides
my residential long-distance phone service. Marketing representatives
from the company persist in calling me despite several requests to be
put on the do-not-call list. I know that the 1991 Telephone Consumer
Protection Act makes it illegal in certain circumstances to persist in
that manner. I have also heard of at least one successful action in a
Small Claims Court under this act -- that case involved telemarketing
on behalf of Citibank as I recall.
Does anyone know of other cases, preferably involving telephone
companies? The issue hinges on a "prior business relationship"
existing between the caller and the recipient. If the marketer opens
the call with a personal discussion on a topic specific to the
recipient, that might change the situation. So, "Hi, I'm calling to
confirm that we received your last month's payment of $47.23, and now
let me introduce our new plan ..." could supposedly be construed
merely as "good customer relations"!
Any leads on specific cases would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
John Murray, Universoty of Michigan
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Why not just drop them as a carrier and
go with someone else, and let them know why you are dropping them. PAT]
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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 17:44:14 -0400
From: jwm@student.umass.edu (Jeffrey W. McKeough)
Subject: Who and Where is Northwestern Bell
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Today's newspaper included an insert from a retailer advertising a
trimline-style phone manufactured by Northwestern Bell. While the ad
included the Bell System logo (now the RBOC logo), the name didn't
ring any bells with me. I don't remember seeing the name on a list of
AT&T's former operating companies, but then I've been mistaken before.
Is this company out in Pac*Tel or US West territory? Canada, maybe?
Jeffrey William McKeough jwm@student.umass.edu
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think they serve the area around
Minneapolis, Minnesota as the local telco. They are probably in
US West now, but not certain. PAT]
------------------------------
From: herb@halcyon.com (Herb Effron)
Subject: Would Appreciate Information on AFRISAT
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 12:58:21 -0800
Organization: Seagopher
A business associate (does not use Internet) would like specific
information about the AFRISAT conference in Washington, DC on August
29, 30, 31. Also, she would appreciate factual info on the project.
(I don't like to send posts asking blind for information ... but I
found nothing searching gopherspace for AFRISAT.)
Please email to me:
herb@halcyon.com
and I will forward it to her.
Herb Effron For replies regarding Seattle USA
herb@halcyon.com e-mail: seattle-usa@halcyon.com
------------------------------
From: chasman@jolt.mpx.com.au (Chas Watkins)
Subject: Dialogic Cards and RING Help Please
Date: 25 Jul 1994 10:00:41 GMT
Organization: Microplex Pty Ltd
I have recently set up a complex voice mail system. It basiclly is a
classified Ad system running on the Dialogic 4 port cards. I
commissioned a company to write it using the VOS operating system as
supplied by PARITY software in the US. It was very expensive to
develop. However it has just come to my notice that I might have
saved myself a considerable amount of time and expense if I had used a
system called RING which is a GUI based development system.
I would like to "talk" to somebody who has experience with this
system. I have seen the demo of RING but I would like to chat with
somebody who has used it to develop an application.
Also I am looking to source it directly from the company that makes it
can anybody give me a clue where the company is based?
Please e-mail me with any information you may have.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
Kind regards,
Chas Watkins Sydney Australia.
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From: maridai@comm.mot.com (Marida Ignacio)
Subject: Voice-Activated Call
Organization: trunking_fixed
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 14:00:19 GMT
Hi. This issue may have come up here before. Anyway, I'm requesting
for any info or references that can point me to "voice-activated
telephone calls".
I've tried calling SPRINT as I remember on one of their commercials
mentioning this feature, but since I'm not a member, I have not
received any much good input whatsoever on the more technical aspect
behind it and simply trying to know what exactly is out there
regarding this.
Please respond to me directly via email since I've not been reading
netnews for a long time now.
Thanks for any help.
Marida Ignacio (maridai@ecs.comm.mot.com)
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You're not alone in not reading netnews,
Marida. It seems a large number of people are starting to abandon Usenet
due to its sheer volume of traffic each day, opting instead for mailing
lists and highly specialized smaller groups. Let's see is anyone on the
Digest mailing list can help you with your questions. PAT]
------------------------------
Date: 25 Jul 1994 16:56:11 +0800
From: keith@UXMAIL.UST.HK (Keith H. K. Chow)
Subject: Information Wanted on Home System Standard
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Hi there,
Does anyone know about ISO/IECJTC1SC25 WG1 and WG2? It is a standard
body responsible for home systems standards. Does anyone know where I
can get a draft of this standard? Any more info for that??
Thanks in advance.
Keith Hung-Kei Chow
Hong Kong Telecom institute of Information Technology
Department of Electrical & Electronic Engineering
The Hong Kong University of Science & Technology
Clear Water Bay Kowloon, Hong Kong
Voice: (HK) 358-7089 Fax: (HK) 358-1485
e-mail: keith@uxmail.ust.hk
------------------------------
From: dec@world.std.com (Daniel E Collins)
Subject: Need help on Specifications For Telcom Bid
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 15:09:42 GMT
Hello All:
I have lurked this list for quite some time, and have noticed that
many included on this list are quite knowledgeable about telcom
issues.
I have been charged with the responsibility of writing the
specifications for a competitive bid for payphone service. As a call
aggregator with over 150 public telephones my company is interested in
understanding the contemporary landscape in regard to public
payphones.
What regulatory structure is in place enveloping AOS and AOP providers.
What pitfalls and traps must I be aware when dealing with these providers?
Is there any location where I can get more indepth information about
this subject?
Thanks for your advice!
Dan
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From: dalk@login.dkuug.dk (Lars Kalsen)
Subject: ETSI Reports Wanted
Date: 25 Jul 94 13:46:57 GMT
Organization: DKnet
Hi,
Is it possible somewhere on the Internet to find reports from the
meetings in ETSI (The Technical Amssembly).
Please email me if you know where to find these.
Greetings,
Lars Kalsen dalk@login.dkuug.dk
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From: southbay@garnet.berkeley.edu
Subject: UC Berkeley Short Courses on Broadband Communications
Date: 25 Jul 1994 18:56:31 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
U.C. Berkeley Continuing Education in Engineering
Announces 5 Short Courses on Broadband Communications, Wireless Networks,
and Video Compression
MODERN TELECOMMUNICATIONS: Wide Area Networks, Personal Communication
Systems, Network Management and Control, and Multimedia Applications
(September 22-23, 1994)
This course is designed as a gentle but comprehensive overview of
telecommunications including current status and future directions.
This course traces the evolution of telecommunications, starting from
its voice roots and progressing through local, metropolitan, and wide
area networks, narrowband ISDN, asynchronous transfer mode, broadband
ISDN, satellite systems, optical communications, cellular radio,
personal communication systems, all-optical networks, and multimedia
services.
Lecturer: Anthony S. Acampora, Ph.D., Professor, Electrical
Engineering, Columbia University. He is Director, Center for
Telecommunications Research. He became a professor following a 20
year career at AT&T Bell Laboratories, is an IEEE Fellow, and is
a former member of the IEEE Communications Society Board of
Governors.
SONET/ATM-BASED BROADBAND NETWORKS: Systems, Architectures and Designs
(October 19-21, 1994)
It is widely accepted that future broadband networks will be based on
the SONET (Synchronous Optical Network) standards and the ATM
(Asynchronous transfer Mode) technique. This course is an in-depth
examination of the fundamental concepts and the implementation issues
for development of future high-speed networks. Topics include:
Broadband ISDN Transfer Protocol, high speed computer/network
interface (HiPPI), ATM switch architectures, ATM network
congestion/flow control, VLSI designs in SONET/ATM networks. This
course is intended for engineers who are currently active or
anticipate future involvement in this field.
Lecturer: H. Jonathan Chao, Ph.D., Associate Professor, Brooklyn
Polytechnic University. Dr. Chao holds more than a dozen patents
and has authored over 40 technical publications in the areas of
ATM switches, high-speed computer communications, and
congestion/flow control in ATM networks.
GIGABIT/SEC DATA AND COMMUNICATIONS NETWORKS: Internetworking,
Signaling and Network Management (October 17-18, 1994)
This short course aims to provide a general understanding of the
key issues needed to design and implement gigabit local and wide
area networks. The topics are designed to compliment those
covered in the SONET/ATM-Based Broadband Networks course (above).
Topics include: technology drivers, data protocols, signaling,
network management, internetworking and applications. Specific
issues addressed include TCP/IP on ATM networks, design of high
performance network interfaces, internetworking ATM networks with
other network types, and techniques for transporting video over
gigabit networks. This course is intended for engineers who are
currently active or anticipate future involvement in this field.
Lecturer: William E. Stephens, Ph.D., Director, High-Speed Switching
and Storage Technology Group, Applied Research, Bellcore. Dr.
Stephens has over 40 publications and one patent in the field of
optical communications. He has served on several technical program
committees, including IEEE GLOBECOM and the IEEE Electronic Components
Technology Conference, and has served as Guest Editor for the IEEE
Journal on Selected Areas in Communications.
NETWORKS FOR DIGITAL WIRELESS ACCESS: Cellular, Voice, Data, Packet,
and Personal Communication Systems (October 3-5, 1994)
This comprehensive course is focused on the principles, technologies,
system architectures, standards, and market forces driving wireless
access. At the core of this course are the cellular/microcellular/
frequency reuse concepts needed to enable adequate wireless access
capacity for Personal Communication Services (PCS). Presented are
both the physical-level issues associated with wireless access and the
network-level issues arising from the inherent mobility of the
subscriber. Standards are fully treated including GSM (TDMA), IS-54
(North American TDMA), IS-95 (CDMA), CT2, DCT 900/CT3, IEEE 802.11,
DCS 1800, and Iridium. Emerging concepts for wireless ATM are also
developed. This course is intended for engineers who are currently
active or anticipate future involvement in this field.
Lecturer: Anthony S. Acampora, Ph.D., Professor, Electrical
Engineering, Columbia University. He is Director, Center for
Telecommunications Research. He became a professor following a 20
year career at AT&T Bell Laboratories, is an IEEE Fellow, and is
a former member of the IEEE Communications Society Board of
Governors.
VIDEO COMPRESSION AND VISUAL COMMUNICATION (October 13-14, 1994)
Video Compression and Visual Communication is a rapidly evolving
multidisciplinary field focussing on the development of technologies
and standards for efficient storage and transmission of video signals.
It covers areas of video compression algorithms, VLSI technology,
standards, and high-speed digital networks. It is a critical enabling
technology for the emerging information superhighway for offering
various video services. In this course, we will fully treat video
compression algorithms and standards, and discuss the issues related
to the transport of video over various networks.
Lecturers: Ming-Ting Sun, Ph.D, is director of Video Signal
Processing Research, Bellcore. Dr. Sun has published numerous
technical papers, holds four patents, developed IEEE Std 1180-
1990, was awarded the Best Paper Award for IEEE Transactions
Video Technology in 1993 (with Tzou), and an award for excellence
in standards development from the IEEE Standards Board in 1991.
He is currently the express letter editor, IEEE Transaction on
Circuits and Systems for Video Technology (CSVT), and associate
editor, IEEE Transactions of CSVT. He was chairman and now
serves as secretary of the IEEE CAS Technical committee on Visual
Signal Processing and Communications.
Kou-Hu Tzou, Ph.D., is manager of the Image Processing
Department, COMSAT Laboratories. Dr Tzou won the Best Paper
Award for IEEE Transactions Video Technology in 1993 (with Sun).
He holds 6 patents, has served as an associate editor for IEEE
Transactions on Circuits and Systems, is currently associate
editor for IEEE Transactions on Circuits and Systems for Video
Technology, and served as a guest editor for Optical Engineering
Journal special issues on Visual Communications and Image
Processing in 1989, 91, and 93. He is the committee chair of the
Visual Signal Processing and Communication Technical committee,
IEEE Circuits and Systems Society.
For more information (complete course descriptions, outlines,
instructor bios, etc.) contact:
Harvey Stern
U.C. Berkeley Extension/Southbay
800 El Camino Real Ste. 150
Menlo Park, CA 94025
Tel: (415) 323-8141 Fax: (415) 323-1438
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Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
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From: Ed Ellers <edellers@delphi.com>
Subject: Re: Reading the TELECOM Digest May Be a Crime
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 94 18:08:27 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Steve Bunning <sbunning@DGS.dgsys.com> writes:
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Isn't that precious! They want to fight,
> maybe somone or more people should give them one. This reminds me of a
> similar case here in the late 1970's when Channel 44 was operating in
> many parts of the USA as 'pay television' with a scrambled signal. You
> could watch their movies, but to do so you had to have one of their
> decoding boxes, and of course you got one of those when you signed up
> for the service. Purchase of a decoding box got to be a joke however, as
> more and more pirates began building them and selling them out of the
> back of their car. Everytime Channel 44 would change the system slightly
> then the pirates would soon change their product to meet the new specs.
I take it you're referring to ON-TV? That was only on channel 44 in
Chicago; it was on channel 52 in the Los Angeles area (where it began),
channel 64 in Cincinnati and so on in maybe a dozen metro areas.
One interesting aspect of the sale of bootleg ON-TV decoders is that
the FCC has banned the sale to consumers of those units, EVEN WITH the
permission of the pay-TV provider! The reason for that was NOT to
deter piracy but to make sure that subscribers could drop the service
at any time without losing a large sum spent buying a decoder. The
FCC used to also have a rule that these services (and cable channels
like HBO) couldn't have serialized programming, so that the customers
wouldn't have to keep the service for months just to find out how the
story line of a serial ended.
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yes, ON-TV was the outfit. The thing I
resented was their claim that no one had the right to any information
about how their system operated. It seems funny to me how in areas of
high tech, dissemination of information to common people is considered
very wrong because 'they might get ideas on how to commit crimes using
the information' ... yet no one says a thing about all the crime programs
on television. Every day people shown robbing banks, killing other people,
raping, looting, pillaging ... but if an effort were made -- and there
have been -- to get these shows off television on the premises that people
easily influenced by what they see and read were likely to go out and do
the same thing, there would be First Amendment complaints left and right.
But let it be a high tech crime -- one that the 'average person' would
not be able to commit anyway even if their life depended on it -- and
suddenly dissemination of information, depictions of the crime, 'too
much detailed information on how it was done' become a bad thing.
It is not a question of *how much knowledge* a person has on any subject,
it is a question of *that person's moral and ethical standards*. Either
you commit crimes or you do not commit crimes. I guess the people (usually
involved with security in high tech situations) who complain about the
disemination of information are essentially saying two things: (1) most
people are criminals by nature; they will commit crimes given the chance,
and (2) most people are stupid. It does not matter if you let them see
shows on television about bank robberies since they know how to do that
anyway and besides it makes good entertainment. What you have to be very
concerned about is giving them information *they did not already have*
on how to commit other crimes; crimes generally beyond their intellectual
reach without assistance, lest they begin committing those crimes also.
I say that is hooey. Either you commit crimes or you do not commit them.
Or maybe you used to commit them and decided to change your life and not
commit them anymore ... or whatever. But having knowledge of *how* to
commit crimes -- successfully, I presume -- is not the same as actually
committing them. When someone says to me that I do not have the right
to give out information -- freely or for a price or on whatever terms
are established -- that's when I suggest that if they feel that way then
it would be a good idea to start hassling the television networks and
Hollywood instead: go tell those folks to quit giving out information
'which could be used to encourage a crime' ... and when you get somewhere
with them, telling them that, then come back and see me. PAT]
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Date: Mon, 25 Jul 94 02:09:38 CDT
From: clifto@indep1.chi.il.us (Clifton T. Sharp)
Subject: Re: Reading the TELECOM Digest May Be a Crime
In article <telecom14.330.5@eecs.nwu.edu>, John Higdon wrote:
> Mr. Security came unglued. "How do YOU know where the central offices
> are located? Those locations are SECRET!" I explained to him that not
> only were the buildings themselves plainly marked with gigantic
> Pac*Bell logos, but the complete listing of exchange areas with maps
> and CO locations was available to any equipment vendor or service
> reseller.
Sounds like my experiences some years ago. When I first found out
about V-H coordinates, I began my search for them with the Illinois Bell
service representative. It was explained to me that these weren't
given out, because Bell didn't want people knowing where their offices
were. I thanked her and hung up, waited a while and called back to
see what someone else would say.
The second representative told me that indeed, she couldn't give me a
list of V-H coordinates, but if it would help, why didn't she send me
a list of the addresses of all the COs in the Chicago MSA? And she did.
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The only thing Illinois Bell wants you
to know about them is where to send your payment each month and where
to call to when you want to order new service. They no longer have any
open houses or tours for schools; they completely dismanted the nice
little museum which the Pioneers worked so hard to put together downtown,
and in general, shut up and pay your bill on time. I remember once when
Illinois Bell also tried to give people that rap about how 'it is against
the law to give out information about how the phone system works or have
such information in your possession ...'. My answer was that the banks
in the USA would love to have such laws -- if indeed the laws existed --
protecting their interests, and how come there were not laws against
showing people planning and committing bank robberies on television. Maybe
the phone company has more shyster lawyers working for them to make sure
they get their way than the bank has on staff, although that's hard to
believe.
My objective in publishing this Digest has always been to educate and
entertain the public, generally in the way telephones and telephone
systems operate, although not exclusively just that topic. What you
choose to *do* with that information is your business; frankly if you
wish to commit a serious crime, then I hope you get punished for it.
But that is between you and the person/organization you have offended.
Even AT&T is entitled to the protection of the law, the same as any of
us. If the telcos and high-tech industries in general want to forbid
the dissemination of information on the theory that too much specifics
might lead to people committing crimes, then let them first try to get
that censorship accomplished in areas where the most information is
given out to the greatest number of people, i.e. television, books and
magazines dealing with crime in general. At least I don't claim to be
a journal of 'true crime stories' committed against high tech. PAT]
------------------------------
From: jlundgr@eis.calstate.edu (John E. Lundgren)
Subject: Re: Ramparts Magazine
Date: 25 Jul 1994 18:33:02 GMT
Organization: California Technology Project of The Calif State Univ
Gary D. Shapiro <gshapiro@rain.org> writes:
> The best I can recall is that {Ramparts} stopped publishing early in
> the 70s. BTW, {Ramparts} started out as a non-mainstream Catholic
> magazine.
> I would consider {Mother Jones} magazine to be the successor to
> {Ramparts}.
> I'm rather odd myself.
> Gary D. Shapiro <gshapiro@rain.org> Santa Barbara, California
[Digest Ed. deleted]
I don't think you guys mentioned the 'other' article. Yeah, that one.
I made a copy of that article in the Oct 70 {Esquire}, I think it was.
I was lucky to find it at the Cal State library, because rumors were
that the telco had gone around and razored it out of every magazine
they could find. But it was probably the pre-pubescent wannabe
phreaks of that day who were doing it.
I found out about it from that TCA or whatever the name was magazine.
I got a free evaluation copy in the mail, after I bubbled in one of
those bingo cards, or reader service cards, from {Popular Electronics},
I think it was. I, too, received one of those stern warnings from Pac
Bell about how they got my name from the court ordered release of the
subscriber list, and how it was illegal, blah-blah-blah.
I remember reading something in {Ramparts} about Western Electric
being the prime contractor for the Minuteman, or some ICBM missile. I
got the feeling that the reason for the anti-establishment attitude of the
magazine was that it was anti-war, and anti military-industrial complex.
Any more war (or anti-war) stories?
John Lundgren jlundgr@eis.calstate.edu
jlundgre@pop.rancho.cc.ca.us
Rancho Santiago College - 17th St. at Bristol - Santa Ana, CA 92706
------------------------------
From: dk@crl.com (David A. Kaye)
Subject: Re: Ramparts Magazine
Date: 24 Jul 1994 13:16:01 -0700
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest]
Gary D. Shapiro (gshapiro@rain.org) wrote:
> The best I can recall is that {Ramparts} stopped publishing early in
> the 70s. BTW, {Ramparts} started out as a non-mainstream Catholic
> magazine.
How much people change. The editor of {Ramparts}, Warren Hinckle, is a
local columnist in San Francisco, and was responsible for causing severe
political damage bordering on slander against former mayor Art Agnos
in order to have his own candidate, Frank Jordan, win. When asked
what was so special about Frank Jordan, Hinckle replied, "He's a blank
slate. Nobody knows anything about him."
So, today, we have a blank slate as mayor, who has succeeded to
disembowel a small-business commission in favor of powerful downtown
big-business interests. These interests are succeeding in driving
small stores out of the neighborhoods (especially pharmacies and
markets). Walgreen's is everywhere. The homeless situation and
panhandling is far worse than it was previously becuase Jordan took
about 50 cops off the street. The libraries nearly closed, and were
only saved by a ballot initiative mandating that funding be kept at a
certain level.
And do you know WHY Warren Hinckle had orchestrated this? Because a
friend of his, a political consultant, Jack Davis, was snubbed by Art
Agnos at a party.
How people change ...
dk@crl.com San Francisco
------------------------------
From: mk@TFS.COM (Mike King)
Subject: Re: Famous Phone Numbers From Songs and Such
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 15:51:21 -0700 (PDT)
In TELECOM Digest, V14 #332, wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey) wrote:
> And another song "Don't call us, We'll call You" (Sugarloaf?) had some
> touch tones in the background. [...]
The main switchboard number for the White House.
Mike King mk@tfs.com
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You mean 202-456-1414? Beleive it or
not, *that* was considered in poor taste to give out for many years by
certain people in the media, even if not in bad taste by C&P Telephone
Company in *their* printed media, the phone directory. Now on the other
hand, members of the media with a copy (pirated or otherwise) of the
White House internal phone directory which lists all the centrex direct
dialable numbers have been told not to give out that information if they
don't want to wind up 'committing suicide' like that Vince whats-his-name.
They guard that pretty closely. The White House is served from the
centrex in the Executive Office Building nearby. Another anti-establisment
magazine of the 1960-70 era was {Straight to Hell}, published by Boyd
McDonald out of his room in a little flophouse hotel in New York. In
one issue of STH, he printed a full page from the White House internal
phone directory including the direct numbers of President Nixon, his
secretary Rosemary Woods, and several other members of Nixon's immediate
staff. Included were the private non-centrex direct number to Nixon's
desk and the phone numbers in the family's living quarters. The thing
ahout STH was that it was not merely content to be anti-establisment. It
did double-dipping in that regard. In addition to offending the establisment
of the times, it went out of its way to offend the 'established' gay lib
movement of the 1970's with absolutely politically incorrect stories
designed to titilate its readership -- mostly gay -- and offend the gay
lib people, who according to publisher McDonald were 'only active in the
movement because they are too ugly or wimpish to find a lover ...'. PAT]
------------------------------
From: jlundgr@eis.calstate.edu (John E. Lundgren)
Subject: Re: Famous Phone Numbers From Songs and Such
Date: 25 Jul 1994 12:37:42 -0700
Organization: California Technology Project of The Calif State Univ
Up north in San Francisco, the number to call to get the time was
POPCORN or 767-2676. But that isn't the standard down here in
southern California which is 853-1212. I wonder how many of the
people who had that number down here got calls from someone from San
Francisco who had just moved into their neighborhood?
------------------------------
From: pkor@paju.oulu.fi (Pasi Korhonen)
Subject: Re: Famous Phone Numbers From Songs and Such
Date: 25 Jul 1994 13:02:50 GMT
Organization: Ripoff Industries
Robert Casey (wa2ise@netcom.com) wrote:
> From time to time, a pop record appears with a real (non 555-xxxx)
> phone number in it. Like "Jenny, 867-5309", "BEachwood 4-5789", or a
On Ry Cooder's Borderline album there is a Steve Cropper/Eddie Floyd
song '634-5789'.
p a s i k o r h o n e n p k o r @ p a j u . o u l u . f i
saaristonkatu 3A6 90100 oulu, finland voice 358 81 377 811 fax 358 81 3116189
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 94 14:01:07 GMT
From: Carl Moore <cmoore@ARL.MIL>
Subject: Re: Famous Phone Numbers From Songs and Such
555 prefix has turned up in places where a script (TV or otherwise)
calls for a telephone number; otherwise, it might turn out to an
actual residence or business number somewhere, with that place getting
calls from the curious.
But I have seen several "I Love Lucy" episodes recently, and a few of
them mention telephone numbers (of the form "name + five digits"). "I
Love Lucy" was made in the 1950s.
------------------------------
From: cantor@mv.mv.com (David A. Cantor)
Subject: Re: Famous Phone Numbers From Songs and Such
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 14:13:20 GMT
In article <telecom14.332.9@eecs.nwu.edu>, Robert Casey <wa2ise@netcom.
com> wrote:
> From time to time, a pop record appears with a real (non 555-xxxx)
> phone number in it. Like "Jenny, 867-5309", "BEachwood 4-5789", or a
> number mumbled in a heavy metal song "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap".
> And another song "Don't call us, We'll call You" (Sugarloaf?) had some
> touch tones in the background. I suppose there exists a list of valid
> but unusable phone numbers due to popular song lyrics.
The moderator already mentioned PEnnsylvania 6-5000.
Two more:
TRansylvania 6-5000
TRansylvania 4-5789
(Yes, both of these appeared in songs ("novelty songs", I think they
call them) which were once, er, popular -- well at least they played
them on the radio).
David A. Cantor +1 203-444-7268 (203-444-RANT)
453 Bayonet St., #16 Internet: cantor@mv.mv.com
New London, CT 06320
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 94 18:05:40 EST
From: Alex Cena <acena@lehman.com>
Subject: Advice on Wireless
While in Tokyo I stumbled across an area called Akihabara that is wall
to wall electronic stores. I found a lot of stuff in Akihabara that
would thrill any technoid. But what excited me were the numrous walkie
talkies available.
I saw several UHF walkie talkies made by Sanyo, Sony and Kenwood
operating in the 400Mhz-450Mhz band w/700 Mw of power. Urban range
200-m-500m and rural1km to 2km. Form factor smaller than a Mot
Micro-Tac Lite w/small battery. Includes VOX/PTT Mike and anywhere
from 9 to 11 channels. Is someone familiar w/any of these? They range
from $200-$350 each and I'm thinking of picking up a couple but
manuals are available in Japanese only. I don't speak Japanese so I
couldn't get much help from the merchants. Please respond quickly
since I am leaving this place in a couple of days.
Regards,
Alex
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Someone mentioned a curious thing to
me a few days ago regarding Radio Shack. Here in the USA we have
Radio Shack stores all over and they have the brand names Realistic,
Tandy, and a few others. But this person said to me in the far east
countries like Australia and Japan they have lots of stores known as
'Tandy', and these are all stocked with the brand name 'Radio Shack'
on the products. In other words, just the opposite of the USA. PAT]
------------------------------
From: kalvah@cse.fau.edu (Hari Kalva)
Subject: Isochronous/Switched/100 Mbps Ethernet
Date: 24 Jul 1994 22:59:45 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA
Hi !
I am looking for papers/reports that talk about Isochronous
ethernet, Switched ethernet, and 100 Mbps ethernet. I would appreciate
any helpful information. Please respond via e-mail.
Thanks in advance,
Hari
Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton
e-mail: kalvah@sunrise.cse.fau.edu
------------------------------
From: jholpit@bgsu.edu (jennifer holpit)
Subject: Advertising on the Internet
Date: 25 Jul 1994 00:07:35 GMT
Organization: Bowling Green State University
I am a student at Bowling Green State University. Currently I am
involved with a research project that is studying the implications of
advertising and commercial use on the internet. My question: With the
growing intensity of the internet, what is the danger of advertising
and commercial use taking over the internet, only to leave researchers
and educators falling to the wayside due to the lack of money that
would be needed to compete with big business? Any information on this
subject would be greatly appreciated.
------------------------------
From: llunt@bgsu.edu (Laura Lunt)
Subject: Regulations on the Internet
Date: 25 Jul 1994 00:19:42 GMT
Organization: Bowling Green State University
I am researching the economics of the Internet. With regards to
growing expansion of the Internet what will the governments role be in
regulation and subsidization of the research facilities and
universities? With concerns of the imminent entry of commercialization
on the Internet, it seems that research facilities will need to rely
on the government for protections from commercialization.
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well luv, for many many years, the Internet
had what was known as 'Acceptable Use Policy', and that policy forbade
commercialization. These days much of that seems to be gone. You take
me and a couple other people who continually run our commercial stuff
on here <g> ... and its all gone to pot. PAT]
------------------------------
From: whatfield@pro-applepi.wap.org (W. Hatfield)
Subject: Virtual Private Network Information Wanted
Date: 24 Jul 1994 22:24:34 -0400
Organization: Washington Apple Pi, Ltd. user group in Bethesda, Maryland
Please post references for books, papers, FAQs, on virtual private
networks (VPNs).
Thanks.
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:31 EST
From: Randall C Gellens <0005000102@mcimail.com>
Subject: PacBell Targets Gays
I recently received a mailing from PacBell which is interesting in
that it is clearly targeted at gays and lesbians. It offers $20 off
installation of a second line, plus a $20 certificate for Office
Depot. The text is accompanied by a photo of two women embracing, and
a photo of two men in a pose somewhat more intimate than is typical in
mainstream ads.
For the most part, the text could be part of any pitch for a second
line, but does include a few sentences about how "With a second line,
your home is no longer cut off from the rest of the world every time
you're on the phone arranging a get-together ... or every time your
roommate or partner's doing the same."
What I found especially interesting is that it was mailed to an
address which is not even in PacBell's service area. I have no
account with PacBell which uses that address. I have to assume they
are using mailing lists and not bothering to even check if the zip
code is served by them.
(A couple of weeks later, I received another flyer which was very
similiar, except it had no photos of same-sex couples, and no mention
of partners or roommates. I guess they use multiple lists.)
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: AT&T has used advertisments very similar
in nature to target gay audiences on the one hand and middle class
Americans on the other. "Reach Out and Touch Someone" has been worked
to the hilt. One ad shows grandma smiling and talking to the grandkids
while another version of the ad shows gay guys chatting on the phone.
One appears in the {Chicago Tribune} while the other appears in alternate
lifestyle media. When AT&T cut a deal with some guy in the Netherland
Antilles to intercept and route calls to his hot-chat conference bridge
they used a picture depicting sado-masochistic activities -- whips,
chains, boots -- and a couple guys talking on a phone with the caption
that you could Reach Out and Touch a new friend using the AT&T network
by calling 011-whatever ... no premium charges! no credit cards needed!
Just regular international toll charges apply. Needless to say, they
did not run the ad in the {Christian Science Monitor}. It appeared
in a few gay newspapers though. PAT]
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 15:07:31 EDT
From: Paul Robinson <PAUL@tdr.com>
Reply-To: Paul Robinson <PAUL@tdr.com>
Subject: Re: Caller-ID in Phoenix, AZ
Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA
"Kevin W. Reed" <kreed@libre.com>, writes:
> I noticed pretty quickly that the only Caller-ID information that we
> were getting was from the Metropolitan Phoenix area only with everything
> else coming in as "OUT-OF-AREA".
This is the usual practice.
> I thought this was a bit strange as others (in other States) have
> mentioned that they obtain Caller-ID information from other areas of
> the country on their units.
I think what they said was there was some leakage. Some telephone
companies may be suppressing delivery of the information to Feature
Group trunks (what the long distance call is sent via), and in some
cases the long distance company cannot provide it.
> First I was told it was because they were un-tarriffed to get such
> information, then they said it was up to the long distance carrier to
> provide such information and the reason why we don't get it is because
> the callers are using a carrier that doesn't provide that information.
> This is seems a bit weird because I get close to 60-70 calls a day
> from all parts of the country and have never gotten a single out of
> state number on the Caller-ID unit. Anyone have an idea as to what is
> really going on here? Further attempts at clarification of this with
> US West has ended up going nowhere.
Unless and until the FCC's proposal (either as current or as modified
to something else) takes effect, interstate delivery of CNID will
range from meager to nonexistent.
The quote fits exactly, so I'll use it: In Robert A. Heinlein's "To
Sail Beyond the Sunset," a woman's son asks why they made Video
Telephones in Dallas stereoscopic, while ones in Kansas City are not.
"Donald, any question that begins, 'Why don't they...' can almost
always be answered 'Money.'"
In order to provide Caller-ID, the caller's telephone must be on an
SS7 Switch, the recipient must also be connected to one, and *every
single connection* must have SS7 connectivity or the CID information
will be lost. Also, if any of them fail to send the information or
refuse to do so, the information is lost.
Local telephone companies see the passing of the caller's telephone
number as valuable information they should be compensated for; they
probably expect the long distance companies to come up with additional
money to pay for it; on the other hand, they are probably not offering
to pay anything to receive caller-id information since only the called
party benefits from the information.
So in effect, the inability to receive a Caller ID from out of state is
politically motivated, and will require a political solution.
Paul Robinson - Paul@TDR.COM
------------------------------
From: dk@crl.com (David A. Kaye)
Subject: Re: True Voice Re-Exam - Some Additional Comments
Date: 25 Jul 1994 13:06:13 -0700
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest]
Dr. John Berryhill (berryh@huey.udel.edu) wrote:
> In fact, the ONLY specific pieces of equipment mentioned in the
> Bowker patent are a Yamaha DEQ-7 equalizer and a 4ESS toll switch.
If this is the extent of it and the rest of the patent is a fairly
intense recital of what's happening when you hook an equalizer to a
phone switch, this looks obvious to me. Being obvious, how would it
qualify for a patent? Those of us who have worked in broadcasting
have long used equalizers to modify phone line signals to make them
sound better.
dk@crl.com San Francisco
------------------------------
From: Tom E Kunselman <tek@aix3090b.uky.edu>
Subject: Re: Fraudulent 800 Number Sex Line Charges
Date: 25 Jul 1994 14:26:41 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
I was at a little party this weekend and was talking to a guy that
runs a telephone system for a small company. He said that AT&T had
given him a list of 800 numbers that were not toll-free. Apparently
some companies are socking quite a charge when you call some of these
numbers ... sometimes in the hundreds of dollars!
Anyone have any idea how to make sure that a 1-800 is really toll-free
before you call it?
Thanks.
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The thing which makes it legal is the
recipient of the call is *not* charging for the carriage to get there.
He is charging for the information he provides while he is talking
to you. Understand now? Sort of like saying ISDN is anywhere but
not everywhere. Gotta luv that telco-speak at times, don't you? PAT]
------------------------------
From: daveheld@delphi.com
Subject: Re: Fraudulent 800 Number Sex Line Charges
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 94 02:10:21 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Joe Kukulka <jzk@crl.com> writes:
> A buddy of mine called a supposedly free sex line. After an initial
> preamble, he was told to enter a code on his phone that would give him
> free time. He entered the number, and the other end shortly hung up
> without providing him with anything. A month later, he gets a charge
> on his Pacific Bell phone bill for $30 for two minutes connect time to
[deleted]
I'm confused. I don't call sex lines, but I frequently dial 800
numbers for other purposes. Under what circumstances are the 800
service providers permitted to charge me for the calls?
Dave
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: See my note above. The service providers
are entitled to be compensated for their *information* or titillation
or whatever it is they cause to happen. Telco does not charge you for
the carriage, or the connection itself. The recipient of the call charges
you for taking the time to talk to you and say whatever it is s/he says.
Note that when the bill comes, it is a separate entity from some outfit
posing as a long distance phone company; it is not from your telco or
the 800 carrier as such. That's how it is done. Telco-speak is my
name for it. PAT]
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Book Review: "Ethernet Pocket Guide" by Spinney (Rob Slade)
Re: GSM Tariffs in Europe (Steen Koefed Larsen)
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Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 13:35:33 MDT
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Ethernet Pocket Guide" by Spinney
BKETHPKT.RVW 940506
CBM Books
101 Witmer Road PO Box 446
Horsham, PA 19044
215-957-4265 215-957-4287
Fax: 215-957-1050
76702.1565@compuserve.com
books@propress.com
"Ethernet Pocket Guide", Spinney, 1994, 1-878956-43-4, U$15
As the subtitle says, this is "A practical guide to designing,
installing and troubleshooting ethernet networks." The book (at 60
pages, plus glossary and index, almost a booklet) is quite practical,
although some decisions regarding what to include and what to leave
out are a bit odd.
Chapter 1 is an introduction to Ethernet, and the standards around it.
The description covers the various aspects of Ethernet operation and
definition. The picture painted of "Carrier Sense Multiple
Access/Collision Detection" (CSMA/CD) will be clear to any intelligent
reader. On the other hand, the detail given of the ISO OSI model is
difficult to understand, since it is never referred to again. An
addition to this edition is a very clear and detailed overview of the
framing of Ethernet packets.
Chapter 2, dealing with cabling media, is the beginning of the heart
of the book. Cabling is really the strong point of this work.
Chapter 3 (Hardware) provides useful background information in terms
of the various other parts to the net. Another improvement to this
edition, however, is the inclusion of a number of new diagrams which
add greatly to the ease of understanding these topics. Chapter four,
on Design, gives good basic rules of thumb for doing your own design,
but you will still need some technical smarts to actually come up with
a design, let alone generate several and assess the best.
Chapter 5, Installation, again deals primarily with cabling and cable
runs. Chapter 6, Maintenance, while giving brief nods to management
aspects, is again primarily concerned with finding breaks in the
cable.
Given that the book deals exclusively and particularly with Ethernet,
the cabling emphasis is understandable. However, even within this
limited scope there could be some improvement. Although the 2.5 meter
markings on "thick coax" are mentioned often, there is no explanation
of "half-wave lengths", the reason for them. Table 2-2 offers, as an
advantage of glass fiber-optic cable, that it yields "extended
length". This is, in fact, the opposite of the reality: coax runs can
be longer overall since the "index of refraction" of coax is less than
that of fiber-optic cable.
However, with the proviso that this work is not "gospel", the book
would provide handy background information for those who don't have
the time for a full study of the field. For the novice who must face
putting a network together for the first time it may provide a false
sense of security, although it definitely *will* provide some helpful
advice. It may be best for the IS manager who needs to know just
enough to keep network contractors honest.
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1993, 1994 BKETHPKT.RVW 940506. Distrobution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated mailing lists/newsgroups.
Vancouver ROBERTS@decus.ca
Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca
Research into rslade@cue.bc.ca
User p1@CyberStore.ca
Security Canada V7K 2G6
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From: steenkl@thamis.ico.olivetti.com (Steen Koefed Larsen)
Subject: Re: GSM Tariffs in Europe
Date: 26 Jul 94 12:59:25 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino, CA USA
Finally some GSM discussion!
I'm a subscriber of the Danish GSM operator Sonofon but I currently
spend most of my time in Italy. In Italy I am perfectly able to use
the Italian SIP network and have been doing so for about one year. To
many Italians it comes as a big surprise when they hear that I am
using GSM in Italy, this is because SIP is not doing very much to
market GSM. GSM will probably become very hot in Italy later this year
when the second operator Omnitel starts its competing GSM network.
When I use my GSM phone in Italy I pay the normal Italian tariffs plus
a 5% roaming surcharge. But then again I didn't pay the VERY HIGH
Italian connection charges (I'll look them up for you) and their VERY
HIGH subscription fees. The Danish connection fees was approx. USD
120, but then they also payed half of my GSM phone :-). The Danish
subscription fee is approx. USD 40 each 3 months.
The big roaming problem is when somebody has to call me, not that it
is difficult to call me - but it costs. Since my phone number is
Danish you have to call me in Denmark. I must pay to transfer the call
to Italy, approx. 80 cents pr. minute. This is not too bad, my Danish
friends can call me on a Danish number and have me paying the foreign
transfer. THE BIG PROBLEM is when one of my Italian friends has to
call me, then he has to call a number in Denmark, paying an
international call to Denmark and I have to pay to get the call
transferred back to Italy. This is crazy! Is the phone system really
that stupid in its routing? or are the phone companies just making big
money?
100020.1013@compuserve.com (Alfredo E. Cotroneo) writes:
> I had the opportunity to play around with a new GSM phone last
> weekend, and was amazed by the features offered by this service, some
> real, some still non-implemented (e.g. call forward).
Maybe you haven't subscribed to these services. I am able to use all
of the four different call-forward types.
> I travelled by car from Milano, Italy, to Genova, and then West to
> the border with France on the Italian riviera. I had almost everywhere
> good coverage on the motorway and over the coast. Coverage appeared to
> be everywhere on the road the same as for the other analogue (900 MHz,
> TACS) cellular phone.
My experience in the Naples and Turin areas is the same. You can use
GSM almost all the places where the old TACS 900 Mhz system is present.
> As soon as I realized that I could make a call to France via one of
> the the French telephone networks, thus bypassing the Italian operator,
Yes you can save lots of money this way. I have used the same system
to call Sweden from Denmark.
> I tried to find out more about the different rates, and rate
> systems, used by the different GSM operators. Unfortunately, after
> calling the Italian operator "SIP" on 119, they suggested that I
> placed an Int'l paid call to each operator to get their tariffs (They
> gladly provided me with their numbers in Paris, good only during
> business hours Mon-Fri). This makes quite difficult and expensive to
> get a clear picture, and e.g. select the best operator in countries
> where more than one exists (e.g. France, Germany, UK, etc.).
SIP doesn't give a very good service. (Bet you knew that already :-)
Both Danish GSM operators give all their customers a small roaming
guide that contains all the prices of most European GSM networks.
(Yes, they do have VERY complicated price structures !-)
> Any help will be gladly appreciated, and if there's enough interest I
> will be glad to summarize. Please reply directly since I may not read
> the news from here.
I will try to find my roaming guide and send the prices directly to you.
> I also found most annoying to try calling Italy from France by
> dialing 0039-XXXXX, and then today back at home I learned from my
> telephone directory that in France you get access to the international
> lines by dialing 19-39-XXXXXX; the situation is -- sadly -- all the
> same non standard and most confusing when you dial e.g. from Austria:
> 00-40-XXXXX, Spain: 07-39-XXXXXX, the UK: 010-39-XXXXX, or Norway:
> 095-39-XXXXXXX).
All European contries should be about to standardize on "00" + country
code. Denmark changed "009" to "00" in May this year. BUT with a GSM
phone this should not be a problem, all GSM phones have a special code
for "international" that remains the same no matter which country you
are in. I didn't even know that "00" works on a GSM phone.
Best regards and happy GSM roaming!
Steen Koefoed Larsen
Email: steenkl@larsen.ico.olivetti.com GSM Mobile: +45 40512486
AmbraSoft International A/S, Copenhagen, Denmark
consultant for Olivetti Ricerca S.C.p.A., Naples, Italy
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From: wtho@CHBS.CIBA.COM (Tom Hofmann)
Subject: Re: GSM Tariffs in Europe
Organization: Ciba-Geigy Ltd.,Basel,Switzerland
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 06:46:19 GMT
100020.1013@compuserve.com (Alfredo E. Cotroneo) writes:
> telephone directory that in France you get access to the international
> lines by dialing 19-39-XXXXXX; the situation is -- sadly -- all the
> same non standard and most confusing when you dial e.g. from Austria:
> 00-40-XXXXX, Spain: 07-39-XXXXXX, the UK: 010-39-XXXXX, or Norway:
> 095-39-XXXXXXX). It's not a mistype, Austria disregards completely
> Italy's country code by making it 40 instead of 39.
Wrong, 40 is the country code for Romania, and that works from Austria
as well (0040-41 is Craiova/Romania, not Venice/Italy). For Italy
they use a code which looks like a domestic area code: 040 (not 0040).
There is in deed one anomaly in country codes from Austria, but that
is for Luxembourg where they have to dial their own country code (43).
Btw., in parts of Austria (everywhere?) you can reach Italy by 0039.
The international access code as recommended by the CCITT (what is the
new name of that organization?) is 00, and many European countries
which still use an other code plan the migration to 00 within the next
couple of years (France, U.K., Netherlands etc.).
Tom Hofmann wtho@chbs.ciba.com
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From: jeffb@audiolab.uwaterloo.ca (Jeff Bamford)
Subject: Thoughts on Cantel's Amigo Cellular Phone
Organization: Audio Research Group, University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 15:20:04 GMT
I haven't seen too many posts about this so I thought I'd
offer my thoughts on the matter. I recently decided to pick up
cellular service via Rogers Cantel with their "Amigo" service. I got
the "Personal" package which includes the rental of an AT&T 3610 Phone
(batter pack, charger, short & long antennae) and service for $29.95
(Canadian). The service includes free weekend calling (Friday 20h to
Monday 7h) and air time at $0.75 during other times. They also offer
free evening calling for two weeks extendable to months if you mail in
the coupon (their evening is 17h to 7h). There were no activation or
license fees and the service is able to be cancelled at any time.
They claim that the only other charges I can expect would be for Long
Distance or directory assistance. (I assume they assume I stay in
Canada).
The one thing they do require is credit card billing. They
won't give you service if they can't bill to your credit card. As a
"service" to their customers they won't send you an invoice! This is
one aspect of the service that I don't really like. You can call
their 1-800 number (or *811 on the phone) and get their automated
service line and have your bill explained there. I haven't been able
to try this as I've only been billed for the initial service. They'll
mail / FAX you the details for $3.95 though.
With this setup I should be able to roam anywhere in Canada.
I can use the phone in the States but would first have to have it
programmed to be able to make calls there. I've driven around a bit
with the phone and was surprised at one aspect of the service. I am
able to call as a local call areas that are long distance with my home
phone. Perhaps this is common for Cell Phones but I found it kind of
neat.
Bell Mobility (the other carrier in this area) also have a
similar offer. You can buy a Cell Phone for $49.95 and pay $19.95 for
service and $0.55 / minute for air time. They also offer free weekend
calling but only for the first two or three months of service. I
don't know if they have any activation fees or not for this offer.
The guy at the store where I picked it up said that a lot of
students are picking these things up. They're having a hard time
keeping them in stock. The one thing you notice whenever you buy one
of these things is how many other people have them. So far I've seen
a couple of younger-types walking around with what looks to be the
AT&T phone. I'm sure some marketing genius with Cantel is having a
field day.
Jeff Bamford jsbamford@uwaterloo.ca -- NeXT Mail welcome
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From: course@garnet.berkeley.edu
Subject: Communications Networks Course at Berkeley
Date: 26 Jul 1994 00:22:53 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
U.C. BERKELEY Continuing Education in Engineering Announces a short
course on Communication Networks:
COMMUNICATION NETWORKS: FROM FDDI TO ATM (August 9-10, 1994)
This course provides an overview of the operating principles and
design guidelines for communication networks, and includes a
description of the popular current networks and a discussion of major
industry trends. Topics include: History and Operating Principles,
Open System Interconnection, Overview of High-Speed Networks, Physical
Layer, Switching, Trends in Data Networks (FDDI, DQDB, Frame Relay,
SMDS), Trends in Telecommunication Networks (SONET, Fiber to the home,
ISDN, Intelligent Networks, ATM) , Topological Design of Networks,
Control of ATM Networks. Comprehensive course notes will be provided.
Lecturers:
PRAVIN VARAIYA, Ph.D., Professor of Electrical Engineering and
Computer Sciences, University of California, Berkeley. At Berkeley he
works on stochastic systems, communication networks, power systems and
urban economics. He is the author of "Stochastic Systems: Estimation,
Identification, and Adaptive Control" (Prentice-Hall, 1986) and
coeditor of "Discrete Event Systems: Models and Applications"
(Springer, 1988). He is a fellow of the IEEE.
JEAN WALRAND, Ph.D., Professor of Electrical Engineering and
Computer Sciences, University of California, Berkeley. He is the
author of "An Introduction to Queuing Networks" (Prentice-Hall,
1988) and "Communication Networks: A First Course" (Irwin/Aksen,
1991).
For more information (brochure with complete course descriptions,
outlines,instructor bios, etc.,) send your postal address to:
Richard Tsina
U.C. Berkeley Extension
Continuing Education in Engineering
2223 Fulton St. Berkeley, CA 94720
Tel: (510) 642-4151 Fax: (510) 643-8683
email: course@garnet.berkeley.edu
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From: Dr. John Berryhill <berryh@huey.udel.edu>
Subject: Re: True Voice Re-Exam - Some Additional Comments
Date: 26 Jul 1994 04:08:26 GMT
Organization: little scraps of paper, mostly
In article <telecom14.334.17@eecs.nwu.edu> dk@crl.com (David A. Kaye)
writes:
> qualify for a patent? Those of us who have worked in broadcasting
> have long used equalizers to modify phone line signals to make them
> sound better.
And that is a point well taken. In fact, the Technical Papers of the
1969 National Association of Broadcasters includes a paper by Mr.
Leonard R. Kahn on a system that he called "VoiceLine" whereby
broadcast quality audio can be obtained using standard phone lines.
Although the VoiceLine system works by modulating the 100 - 300 Hz
range into a notch at 2000-2300 Hz, and then pulling it back out at
the receiving end, Mr. Kahn began his paper by saying that ideally one
would just use an equalizer to boost the 100 - 300 Hz range.
Unfortunately, at that time the channel filters had a 300 Hz cutoff at
something like 20 db per decade that would tend to nix the idea of
just using a filter.
Nevertheless, Mr. Kahn made it clear in 1969 that, if the phone
company cooperated, one could use an equalizer to boost that
particular range. Fortunately, Mr. Kahn is still around, and he is
registered to practice before the patent office. You may recognize
Mr. Kahn's name from his regular advertisement on the penultimate page
of each month's IEEE Spectrum. He contributed a sworn declaration to
the Reexamination Request wherein he confirms that our observations
regarding his 1969 suggestion are accurate.
Additionally, in a 1938 Bell System Technical Journal Article on
long-distance radio program circuits, there is a frequency response
diagram for an exemplary circuit. Surprise, surprise, the curve
exhibits several dB of gain in the range of about 50 - 200 Hz.
If you know of other publications, prior to December 3, 1989, that
discuss the use of equalizers to obtain broadcast quality audio on
telephone lines, please let me know, or send them directly to the
patent office in accordance with the directions that have been posted
in misc.int-property.
For more information on submitting prior art to the patent office
relative to AT&T's U.S. Patent No. 5,195,132, please send a SASE to
the address below.
John Berryhill
1601 Market St., Suite 720, Philadelphia PA 19103
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From: Nancy.Jean.Airey@att.com
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 09:12:05 +0500
Subject: Switched Without Permission
Organization: AT&T
If you could just reply to this, that would be fine. I know it's been
rehashed many time. I can't ftp the archives (they're not on AT&T
systems).
One of the women I work with was "accidently" switched from AT&T to
MCI by Illinois Bell. She didn't realize it until she got her bill.
IL Bell says it's because the "new" phone number she got had belonged
to someone who had MCI as their long distance carrier; it's OK that
she got MCI as well. She disagrees. She had AT&T before and did not
want to change it. Since she also works for AT&T she also does not
want, in any way, to be perceived as "supporting" a competitor.
Additionally, as an AT&T employee, she is reimbursed (somewhat) for
long distance calls she makes using AT&T. So if she pays the bill she
will be out hard cash to boot. Who does she need to talk to? What
does she need to quote? Your help appreciated.
Jean Airey att!hrcce!jean
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: She needs merely to call the service
representative at Illinois Bell and tell that person to default her
one plus dialing to AT&T and to do so today with no further delay. To
avoid any loss to herself for the day or two the order might be pending
she should dial long distance calls using 10288, and only commence making
one plus calls after a check with 1-700-555-4141 indicates that AT&T is
indeed now her carrier. She should also call the AT&T customer service
people at 800-222-0300 and let them know as well. Generally what they
will do is send a fax to Illinois Bell to confirm the order and insure
that the change is made. If any calls were accidentally made via MCI
during the period that MCI had control of her line she *is legally obligated
to pay* but Illinois Bell might be willing to make an adjustment, perhaps
by allowing her to pay what she normally would pay with any AT&T employee
benefit offsets taken into consideration. PAT]
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From: mmathews@hadron.wellfleet.com (Mat Mathews)
Subject: Measured and Unlimited Service at Same Residence
Date: 26 Jul 1994 13:24:35 GMT
Organization: Wellfleet Communications, Inc.
I just recently ordered a second line at my apartment for computer
use. Since my company provides an 800 number for the dial-in line, I
decided to order a measured-service line. NYNEX tells me, however,
that it IS NOT POSSIBLE to have measured and unlimited service at the
same residence. Why is this? The sales rep said something about the
impossibility of wiring such a setup. It seems to me that every
network interface should be separately configurable. I know that they
would never see a dime on the measured line if there is an unlimited
line there too, but surely such a configuration is not impossible.
Anybody know?
Mathew J. Mathews Phone: 508-436-8065
Switch Development Fax: 508-670-8760
2 Federal St, Billerica, MA 01821 Email: mmathews@wellfleet.com
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It isn't the 'impossibility of wiring
such a setup' ... it is the fact that nearly everyone (in the past) who
had such an arrangement took advantage of the unmeasured line to make
outgoing calls and used the measured line for incoming calls, thus
getting the flexibility of two phone lines for the cost of one and a
half lines, so to speak. Normally two unmeasured lines are a lot more
expensive than two measured lines. In fairness to telco, they require
that you either get measured service or unmeasured service. You of course
pay less per month for *basic service* for the one but more on each
call; the other charges much more for *basic service* while giving each
call away for 'free'. You the customer decide when ordering either type
of service if your volume of calls and calling patterns are such that
the one works better than the other in your application. Some customers
even have the gall to try and order two lines -- one of each -- with
incoming calls to the listed, measured line and hunt on busy to the
unlisted, unmeasured line. Uh huh ... nice if you can do it, but telco
is in the business to make money. About the only time you can get telco
to install one of each on the same premises is if there are two or more
distinct persons sharing the premises, and each claims that he is in
exclusive control of and is the exclusive user of his particular service;
for example a phone in my bedroom that only I use and one in your bedroom
that only you use. Even then telcos eyebrows raise, but let the phones
be in common use in common areas of the premises, and you won't get that
arrangement.
The same thing applies with business versus residential service on the
same premises. Usually business service is more expensive where monthly
service and outgoing calls are concerned. People have tried to have
residence service installed where business service was already in existence
and telco has refused to do it. They also, rightfully in my opinion,
refuse to install residence service at a street address which has histor-
ically been of record as a place where business is conducted, for example
in a downtown storefront, or an office building. People want to get the
advantage of a business listing for their business while paying lower
rates for residence service, both monthly charges and per call charges.
On the other hand if you have residence service in your home and ask
telco to install business service *in addition to* residence service,
they will do that, *in your home*, and trust you to make your outgoing
calls on the appropriate line, although most people will abuse it. PAT]
Then there are the folks with semi-public payphones on their business
premises. Those are the non-commissionable type that telco will install
for anyone if desired, with the customer paying a monthly fee for the
service and each call being paid for with coins deposited in the box.
On those, the subscriber can have an 'answer-only extension' installed
if desired, which is a phone without a dial or touchtone pad, purely
for answering purposes if the semi-public coin phone gets an incoming
call. Telco refuses to do it, and the sophisticated subscriber then
says, 'well, I want an answer-only extension for the payphone and I
want you to terminate it on my existing multi-line phone on an idle
pair ...'. Now telco is stuck because your existing multi-line phone
has touchtone or dial on it of course. If a rotary dial, they just
won't do it; if a touchtone they *will* but in the process they
reverse the polarity on that particular pair to disable your ability
to dial out on that line regardless of having a touch tone pad on
the phone or not.
There are all kinds of tricks to squeeze a little extra out of telco
without paying for it, or to get something which is against the
tariff; telco knows all the tricks, but unfortunatly so do all the
subscribers. To get back to your original question, no they won't
install metered service at your premises then turn around and give
you a way to bypass the meter. Makes sense to me. PAT]
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TELECOM Digest Wed, 27 Jul 94 11:23:00 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 336
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
What's Wrong With My Caller-ID-With-Name? (Jim Derdzinski)
Living in a Telegraph Company Head Office (Nigel Allen)
Longest Time on Hold? (Arthur Shapiro)
Patent Lawsuit War Breaking Out Over Fax Technology (Gregory Aharonian)
Canadian Long-distance Carrier Codes (T.C. Chao)
ATM/T1 DEmultiplexors (Curt Schwaderer)
Help Needed With Ringing Frequencies (Steven Higa)
UC Berkeley Short Course: SONET/ATM and Gigabit/sec Networks (H. Stern)
UC Berkeley Short Course: Networks for Digital Wireless Access (H. Stern)
Calling Card Fraud (Tony Pelliccio)
BBS/Interest Group Set-up (Jeff Hersh)
Re: Fraudulent 800 Number Sex Line Charges (bkron@netcom.com)
Re: Fraudulent 800 Number Sex Line Charges (Mark E. Daniel)
Re: Fraudulent 800 Number Sex Line Charges (Rob Boudrie)
Re: Fraudulent 800 Number Sex Line Charges (Ry Jones)
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Date: 26 Jul 94 21:27:29 EDT
From: Jim Derdzinski <73114.3146@compuserve.com>
Subject: What's Wrong With My Caller-ID-With-Name?
Recently, I have noticed some of the strangest behavior from my
Caller-ID-With-Name service that I subscribe to from Ameritech here in
Chicago. I get my service from the Humboldt (312-278) CO here in the
City.
When I had my telephone lines installed upon moving here seven months
ago, I and my friends who also subscribe to the service noticed that
my name didn't show up on their displays. When I would call them, all
they would get is my number and "----------------" for a name. I
noticed that this has been happening on a lot of calls I receive as
well. Note that this name and number service is available in the
areas these calls originate from. The number always shows up
flawlessly, but no name.
I might add that this seems to be happening on calls originating from
recently installed or relocated numbers.
This past weekend, one of the people I called mentioned to me that my
name was now finally showing on their display. I tried it from both
of my lines with a neighbor who has it, and it was working on
Saturday. Starting on Sunday, however, the name went back to a
"----------------" like before, but then it started showing sporadically.
Sometimes it works on one line and not the other and sometimes the
other way around or not at all. Yes, I was obsessed by this enough to
experiment with it repeatedly. It is really handy to have friends and
neighbors who share my interest in telephone stuff around here. :)
So, anybody know what the deal is here? Why did it take six months
after I ordered telephone service here for my name to show?
Comments? Ideas? How does the name system work anyway? Any
Ameritech people out there? I'm about ready to cancel this service
since it only seems to work right half the time.
P.S. What is that "0R" that follows the name that I have seen periodically?
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Sounds to me like someone in the business
office did not do their paperwork correctly when you had your service
turned on. Copies of the order are *supposed* to go to various departments
for inclusion in their systems. The '0R' appears to be a programming error.
Someone incorrectly closed their parenthesis or quote mark in some print
statement. The '0R' is supposed to be an op code to accomplish something
else. PAT]
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Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 20:50:29 -0400
From: ae446@freenet.carleton.ca (Nigel Allen)
Subject: Living in a Telegraph Company Head Office
Organization: Echo Beach, Toronto
Reply-To: ae446@freenet.carleton.ca
At the corner of St. Francois Xavier and de l'Hopital streets in old
Montreal, there stands what used to be the head office of Canadian
Pacific Telegraphs. Old Montreal used to be the financial heart of
Canada, but the financial centre of Montreal has moved north and west
from its old location on St. James Street, and Toronto's Bay Street is
now the real financial centre of Canada.
But the fascinating thing about the former CP Telegraphs building is
how what I assume is a a late nineteenth-century building has been
recycled: the ground floor, where decades ago people would have filed
their telegrams, became a restaurant (although the restaurant has
since gone out of business), and the upper stories became apartments.
When I first saw the building, I was fascinated by the idea of living
in a former telegraph company head office. One of my sisters quite
wisely observed, though, that there didn't seem to be any supermarket
nearby.
The building is only a few blocks away from 360 St. Jacques Street,
where Canadian Pacific Telecommunications had its Montreal telegraph
office for many years, and within walking distance of 740 Notre-Dame
Street West, where Unitel Communications has its Montreal offices,
including the last remaining telegraph office in Canada.
Nigel Allen ae446@freenet.carleton.ca
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Just be certain that telco does not
still have easement rights to come in when they please to work on
things. You may recall the story here in the Digest a few years ago
about the woman who purchased a house to live in from a man who had
formerly run a telephone answering service in what later became her
bedroom. One closet was full of telco wiring for everywhere on the
block. Telco refused to remove it unless she paid them about $2000
to relocate everything. PAT]
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From: ARTHUR%MPA15C@MPA15AB.mv-oc.Unisys.COM
Date: 26 JUL 94 10:51
Subject: Longest Time on Hold?
Pat, the tribulations of being stuck on hold came up on our internal
corporate E Mail network, and I submitted the following as part of the
thread. It was suggested to me that this might be a weird enough
story to be of interest to TELECOM Digest readers, perhaps sparking a
round of one-upsmanship.
My record for being on hold involved the Crocker National Bank in
California, now part of Wells-Fargo. I had need to talk to a human
regarding my account, and I called them about 4:30 on a Friday, a day
in which the phone was alleged to be manned until 5 pm. I got the
usual "all agents are busy ... please hold" message. After 5 pm rolled
around, and nobody had answered (with Muzak droning on to let one know
there was still some hope) I decided to wait 'em out. Friday passed.
Saturday passed. Sunday came. Muzak still droning on, nobody
answering. Finally, Sunday evening, I needed to use the phone so I
hung up. Wonder if they would have picked it up bright and early
Monday morning.
At least the 800 call cost them a bundle.
Arthur L. Shapiro Arthur@mpa15c.mv-oc.unisys.com
Software Engineering
Unisys Corporation Speaking as a civilian, rather than for
Mission Viejo, CA Unisys, unless this box is checked: [ ]
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: A company in Chicago I know has a Rolm
system with a provision to 'do not disturb' an idle agent position.
The trouble is, they are supposed to leave at least one such position
open at all times, but the minimum wage clerks there are all too ignorant
to remember to do that. No one ever told the clerks that their phones
go to such a recording; no one ever told them that in the event there
is only one clerk on duty and she wants to spend half an hour on a personal
phone call she has to leave a *second* line open (not on DND status) in
order to be warned if someone is waiting.
All I know about time spent on hold is that the utility companies here
and the cable television company are pretty bad. About three weeks ago
at 3:30 in the morning I woke up; my house was totally dark, all the
clocks were dark, etc. Flipping switches got me no electricity. I called
the electric company service number, and at 3:30 in the morning mind you,
got this response:
"Edison ... all representatives are busy. For normal business matters,
please call between ?? am and ?? pm Monday through Friday. To report a
service outage, please remain on the line. We are extremely busy at the
present time. Calls are answered in the order received. Estimated time
on hold will be (here the recording paused, as the computer figured out
who all was waiting, then a dismembered voice cut in) 'greater than ten
minutes'. Apparently between one and ten minutes they tell you in their
estimation how many minutes it will be. Above that, they just say it
will be 'greater than ten minutes'.
After a couple minutes of music, the recording came back to say that
'Edison is experiencing service outages in several communities at the
present time. You may hold for a representative or be assured that we
are aware of your problems ... ' More music, and fifteen minutes later
I got a live answer. Apparently a transformer on a pole about a block
away had been visited by a squirrel. Having nothing else to do and not
being sleepy and walked down to the Amoco two blocks away to get some
cigarettes and a sandwich. They still had their electricity on there.
On the way home I saw the Edison crew at the corner with one of those
trucks with a basket to ride in which goes up in the air. Spotlight
pointed at the transformer and some guy in the basket up there. He
says 'look out below' and five seconds later the carcass of one dead
squirrel lands on the ground. He resets the breaker, the lights come
on. One guy on the ground opens a box in the back of the truck *full
of dead squirrels*, takes a shovel to collect the latest one and adds
it to the collection, then closes the box. Seeing me looking at it,
he remarks, "Don't say it buddy! I already heard it five times this
morning ... " Intriqued, I ask him what I am not supposed to say.
Its a comment about how its a lousy job that does not pay very well
but you get all you want for breakfast every day. The radio in the
truck calls their attention and the dispatcher gives them another
address where a curious squirrel seeking a better home for himself and
his family has meet an unwanted death by electrocution. When the
crew finishes its rounds that morning, the squirrels will find their
final resting place at the City of Chicago pathological incinerator
on Weed Street in an industrial/warehouse area on the north side. PAT]
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From: srctran@world.std.com (Gregory Aharonian)
Subject: Patent Lawsuit War Breaking Out Over Fax Technology
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 00:19:41 GMT
It seems there is a war breaking out over fax-networking technology
and most likely we will see another reexamination at the Patent
Office. Last March, Brooktree Technology (Needham, MA) was awarded a
patent that allows incoming faxes to be directed to multiple electronic
mailboxes that have their own telephone numbers -- Direct Inward
Dialing technology. For sites with large numbers of people, such
technology can be quite useful.
Two weeks after receiving the patent, Brooktree sued Gammalink
(Sunnyvale, CA), claiming infringement of the patent. Recently,
Gammalink was bought out by Dialogic Corporation, providing Gammalink
with the funding to countersue Brooktree. Additionally, Gammalink has
discovered what it feels is sufficient prior art to have Brooktree's
patent declared invalid.
According to Jerry Brodsky, president of the American Facsimile
Association (Philadelphia, PA), "The Patent Office has been remiss in
doing its job" because it apparently did not find prior art evidence
of the technology.
Gammalink argues that Brooktree is trying to hurt competition by
requiring unreasonable license fees. Brooktree counters that the
license fees it will require will not disrupt the market.
Stay tuned. Given the large number of office automation related
networking patents, hardware and software, that have been issued over
the years, Gammalin probably has a good chance to have Brooktree's
patent overturned.
Greg Aharonian
Internet Patent News Service
(for subscription info, send 'help' to patents@world.std.com)
(for prior art search services info, send 'prior' to patents@world.std.com)
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From: tcchao@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (T.C. Chao)
Subject: Canadian Long-Distance Carrier Codes
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 17:51:27 GMT
Hi,
Does anyone has a list for all Canadian long-distance carrier codes?
I have the following:
ACC 10234
Bell 10323
Sprint 10348
STN 10773
Unitel 10869
Thanks,
T.C.Chao tcchao@descartes.uwaterloo.ca
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From: mcrware!curts@uunet.uu.net (Curt Schwaderer)
Subject: ATM/T1 DEmultiplexors
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 20:38:18 GMT
I'm looking for hardware that would be configurable to allow various
ATM virtual connections to be routed to various T1 lines. Does such a
thing exist?
Curt Schwaderer, WAN engineer, Microware Systems Corp, (515)224-1929 x388
Des Moines, Iowa 50325-7077 | curts@microware.com | uunet!mcrware!curts
------------------------------
From: steven_h2@verifone.com (STEVEN HIGA/HNL DQ)
Subject: Help Needed With Ringing Frequencies
Date: 26 Jul 94 18:15:24 -1000
Organization: VeriFone Inc., Honolulu HI
I'm trying to design a ring detect circuit but I'm having problems
determining what kinds of rings I need to detect. Cadence is not a
problem because that's software controlled. The real problem is the
Frequency and Voltage. FCC part 68 specifies two types of
ringers...'A' and 'B'. The 'A' ringer must detect between 17 and
33Hz. While the 'B' ringer must detect rings from 17 to 68Hz.
The real question is ... do I really have to detect rings all the way
upto 68Hz. Are there any CO's or PBX's that put out 20Hz rings
anymore?
------------------------------
From: southbay@garnet.berkeley.edu
Subject: UC Berkeley Short Courses on SONET/ATM and Gigabit/sec Networks
Date: 26 Jul 1994 23:03:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
U.C. Berkeley Continuing Education in Engineering Announces 2 Short
Courses on Broadband Communications
SONET/ATM-BASED BROADBAND NETWORKS: Systems, Architectures and Designs
(October 19-21, 1994)
It is widely accepted that future broadband networks will be based on
the SONET (Synchronous Optical Network) standards and the ATM
(Asynchronous transfer Mode) technique. This course is an in-depth
examination of the fundamental concepts and the implementation issues
for development of future high-speed networks. Topics include:
Broadband ISDN Transfer Protocol, high speed computer/network
interface (HiPPI), ATM switch architectures, ATM network
congestion/flow control, VLSI designs in SONET/ATM networks. This
course is intended for engineers who are currently active or
anticipate future involvement in this field.
Lecturer: H. Jonathan Chao, Ph.D., Associate Professor, Brooklyn
Polytechnic University. Dr. Chao holds more than a dozen patents
and has authored over 40 technical publications in the areas of
ATM switches, high-speed computer communications, and
congestion/flow control in ATM networks.
GIGABIT/SEC DATA AND COMMUNICATIONS NETWORKS: Internetworking,
Signaling and Network Management (October 17-18, 1994)
This short course aims to provide a general understanding of the key
issues needed to design and implement gigabit local and wide area
networks. The topics are designed to compliment those covered in the
SONET/ATM-Based Broadband Networks course (above).
Topics include: technology drivers, data protocols, signaling, network
management, internetworking and applications. Specific issues
addressed include TCP/IP on ATM networks, design of high performance
network interfaces, internetworking ATM networks with other network
types, and techniques for transporting video over gigabit networks.
This course is intended for engineers who are currently active or
anticipate future involvement in this field.
Lecturer: William E. Stephens, Ph.D., Director, High-Speed Switching
and Storage Technology Group, Applied Research, Bellcore. Dr.
Stephens has over 40 publications and one patent in the field of
optical communications. He has served on several technical program
committees, including IEEE GLOBECOM and the IEEE Electronic Components
Technology Conference, and has served as Guest Editor for the IEEE
Journal on Selected Areas in Communications.
For more information (complete course descriptions, outlines,
instructor bios, etc.) contact:
Harvey Stern
U.C. Berkeley Extension/Southbay
800 El Camino Real Ste. 150
Menlo Park, CA 94025
Tel: (415) 323-8141
Fax: (415) 323-1438
------------------------------
From: southbay@garnet.berkeley.edu
Subject: UC Berkeley Short Course: Networks for Digital Wireless Access
Date: 26 Jul 1994 22:13:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
U.C. Berkeley Continuing Education in Engineering Announces A Short
Course on NETWORKS FOR DIGITAL WIRELESS ACCESS: Cellular, Voice, Data,
Packet, and Personal Communication Systems (October 3-5, 1994)
This comprehensive course is focused on the principles, technologies,
system architectures, standards, and market forces driving wireless
access. At the core of this course are the cellular/microcellular/
frequency reuse concepts needed to enable adequate wireless access
capacity for Personal Communication Services (PCS). Presented are
both the physical-level issues associated with wireless access and the
network-level issues arising from the inherent mobility of the
subscriber. Standards are fully treated including GSM (TDMA), IS-54
(North American TDMA), IS-95 (CDMA), CT2, DCT 900/CT3, IEEE 802.11,
DCS 1800, and Iridium. Emerging concepts for wireless ATM are also
developed. This course is intended for engineers who are currently
active or anticipate future involvement in this field.
Lecturer: Anthony S. Acampora, Ph.D., Professor, Electrical
Engineering, Columbia University. He is Director, Center for
Telecommunications Research. He became a professor following a 20
year career at AT&T Bell Laboratories, is an IEEE Fellow, and is
a former member of the IEEE Communications Society Board of
Governors.
For more information (complete course descriptions, outlines,
instructor bios, etc.) contact:
Harvey Stern
U.C. Berkeley Extension/Southbay
800 El Camino Real Ste. 150
Menlo Park, CA 94025
Tel: (415) 323-8141
Fax: (415) 323-1438
------------------------------
From: Anthony_Pelliccio@brown.edu (Tony Pelliccio)
Subject: Calling Card Fraud
Date: 26 Jul 1994 14:13:45 GMT
Organization: Brown University ADIR
There was an interesting article in clari.nb.telecom about calling
card fraud. Supposedly AT&T and other companies will be increasing
rates from 17-25% on international calls made using a calling card, to
cover fraud costs.
It also mentions that several things are being done to discourage this
type of fraud but what occured to me is why not incorporate a simple
technology ... a card reader. And don't put anything on the users card
EXCEPT their name. Granted there may be some phones that don't have
these readers and the user would have to know their number. So give
them a slip of paper with their card that has their actual number on
it, tell them to memorize it or store it in a SAFE place and use it
only when other possibilities have been exhausted.
Then if someone is caught using a card number that they obtained
through fraudulent means ... shoot them. They were probably drug
dealers anyhow.
Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
Anthony_Pelliccio@brown.edu, Tel. (401) 863-1880 Fax. (401) 863-2269
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From: Hersh Jeff <hershj@tfalls.bah.com>
Subject: BBS/Interest Group Set-up
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 94 16:35:00 edt
I am interested in setting up a BBS/interest group-type of system for
one of my clients. Most of the accessing sites will (or will acquire)
Internet access. They also are all connected to a private, world-wide
voice network. Access will be required from sites all over the world.
I would like to have some type of anonymous file transfer capability
(such as anonymous FTP), since there will be documents of significant
size.
If anyone could send suggestions on how to do this configuration,
reviews of software BBS/interest group packages, and any other ideas,
please e-mail me at hershj@tfalls.bah.com.
Thank you in advance,
Jeff Hersh
Booz, Allen & Hamilton
151 Industrial Way East
Eatontown, NJ 07724
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From: bkron@netcom.com (Kronos)
Subject: Re: Fraudulent 800 Number Sex Line Charges
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 08:19:07 GMT
daveheld@delphi.com writes:
> Joe Kukulka <jzk@crl.com> writes:
>> A buddy of mine called a supposedly free sex line. After an initial
>> preamble, he was told to enter a code ...
> I'm confused. I don't call sex lines, but I frequently dial 800
> numbers for other purposes. Under what circumstances are the 800
> service providers permitted to charge me for the calls?
TELECOM Digest Editor noted:
> Telco does not charge you for the carriage, or the connection
> itself. The recipient of the call charges you for taking the time to
> talk to you and say whatever it is s/he says. Note that when the bill
> comes, it is a separate entity from some outfit posing as a long
> distance phone company; it is not from your telco or the 800 carrier
> as such.
As Pat says, the 800 call is free. Your charge is from a third-party
billing company. The fact that you have to 'enter a code' (sometimes
the last four digits of the number you're calling from) makes this
legal, at least for the time being, because it satisfies the FTC's
requirement that there be a 'prior agreement' before any charges can
be made. For now, just entering digits you are instructed to in the
same announcement where the charging scheme is explained is considered
tacit agreement. However, there have been so many complaints to the
FTC and FCC that these rules are about to change. Most likely, a
written agreement will be required. In other words, they'll all have
either 011- international access or credit cards. Believe me, the
IEC's want these to go away!
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 94 21:58:24 EDT
From: mark@legend.akron.oh.us (Mark E Daniel)
Subject: Re: Fraudulent 800 Number Sex Line Charges
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The thing which makes it legal is the
> recipient of the call is *not* charging for the carriage to get there.
> He is charging for the information he provides while he is talking
> to you. Understand now? Sort of like saying ISDN is anywhere but
> not everywhere. Gotta luv that telco-speak at times, don't you?
This goes back to the old argument of putting a 1 in front of all toll
calls. Quite many people were upset when Ameritech started "Local +"
charges on some numbers that used to be hefty tolls. You just dial
the number as normal. But in the case of 800 numbers that can charge
me for services rendered, I say get them a 900 number and be done with
it since I believe that 900 charges are set up with the LD Carrier and
the service provider and they (the provider) can basically charge what
they want. At least 900 numbers give a clue to the user that they
will be charged for the call. :) You might say that using 800 rebilling
is false advertising, in a way... :)
Mark E Daniel Inet: mark@legend.akron.oh.us
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From: rboudrie@chpc.org (Rob Boudrie)
Subject: Re: Fraudulent 800 Number Sex Line Charges
Date: 26 Jul 1994 10:18:48 -0400
Organization: Center for High Performance Computing of WPI
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: See my note above. The service providers
> are entitled to be compensated for their *information* or titillation
> or whatever it is they cause to happen. Telco does not charge you for
And just where does this "entitlement" end? Taken to an absurdity, the
800 number could say "enter 1 if you wish to pay $1000 per minute for
this call" -- would that "entitle" the service provider to collect that
sum from the subscriber, even if the caller did not have permission to
use the phone?
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Ah but you see the 'gotcha' in this is
that by definition the person using the phone is entitled to use it.
Remember the rule: the subscriber is responsible for the uses made of
his instruments. Telco assumes in good faith that when a phone is taken
off hook the owner or person in control of the line on your end is either
making the call or has authorized it. What else can they assume? Telco
does allow for modern day realities by allowing blocking of 900/976 to
prevent such abuses, but the information providers have developed work-
arounds as well. The only workable solution is to simply not allow the
information providers to bill via telco. Period. That is unlikely to
happen since the telcos are making money at this also. PAT]
------------------------------
From: rjones@halcyon.halcyon.com (Ry Jones)
Subject: Re: Fraudulent 800 Number Sex Line Charges
Date: 26 Jul 1994 00:38:42 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
I have also seen (last night on Fox, actually) a porno number written
in such a way that someone not up on telephony would be easily fooled
into thinking it was free or something. It was written like this:
"Dial 106 561 999 122 3288, extension 333" instead of "To use our way
expensive AOS service, call 10656+1-999-122-3288, ext 333"
Obviously this isn't the real AOS number, it's fake, so if 656 is your
company or something, I apologize.
Also, on page 46 of the {Hustler} 20th anniversary edition, they list
two numbers (in these formats): 011 852 1721 1742 followed by this:
"WARNING if you cant get through dial 01144 272 234 093!"
Then, halfway down the page, the game is up.
"DIAL A SEX DATE! We advertise for (women) who want to (have sex). We
set up the sex date within one hour and we make our money on the 01144
kickback".
Huh. they admit it's a kickback! And then: (all over the page)
"REMEMBER ONLY $.75 PER MINUTE!" (at the bottom in small type) "All
numbers are international. The minimum call charge being $.75 per
minute." Then they advertise how you can get into the chat line
business: "IF YOU ARE IN THE INTERNATIONAL PORNO BUSINESS, OR GLAMOR
(SIC) BUSINESS, INCLUDING CHAT LINES THEN WE CAN DO BUSINESS, SO FAX
US ON 01144--272-211237 (NEW BUSINESS DEPARTMENT)"
So even if you call to use thier scam AOS, they nail you!
rjones@halcyon.com OG+GOT;
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There is one company in Florida I am
aware of which will put you in business right away as a 900 Information
Provider for $100 per month. They set you up with a 900 number, allow
you to access the database of men and women who have left messages on
the system and leave it up to you to advertise it however you want.
They handle all the billing details and you get $2 per minute for each
call received on 'your' 900 line, less the $100 per month fee. PAT]
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Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 15:48:59 GMT
From: sthomas@mitchell.hac.com (Scott D. Thomas)
Subject: Summary: Bridges vs. Routers
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company
Hello everyone,
I want to thank everybody who responded to my post about the performance
differences of bridges vs. routers. Special thanks to Mike Drollman
of Networks Northwest and Greg Pflaum of Software, Tool & Die.
To summarize: The performance problem with bridges is the unnecessary
broadcast traffic that is forwarded across the WAN. Bridges CAN do
filtering, some support filtering on specific protocols. However,
routers enable the network engineer greater flexibility for filtering,
and other technics, such as "spoofing", as suggested by David
Devereaux-Weber.
Thanks again to all those who responded.
=====================================================
SUMMARY OF RESPONSES TO BRIDGES.VS.ROUTERS POST
From: Jim Burks <jburks@promus.com>
Organization: The Promus Companies, Inc.
If you're using the link for LAN-type stuff, you'll find that performace
suffers, while total utilization on the satellite link is low.
The problem is that LAN activity (file sharing, MS Mail, etc.) sends a
request for a relatively small packet to be returned (~1kb), and waits
for a response before sending the next request. This is the opposite
of a streaming protocol (such as TCP/IP FTP) that streams data without
waiting for an acknoledgement until a specified window is reached.
Depending on the configuration of the bridges, and software and
network use of them, they can be more efficient on a point-to-point
link, but may pass more broadcast packets between the networks than
necessary.
From: sdaggett@netrix.com (Steve Daggett)
Organization: NETRIX Corporation
Actually this is not a "simple network". Depending on the protocol
running on the LAN & WAN segments, the type of data, and the total
usage of each segment of the network things could get pretty strange.
> ( ---- )
> host bridge---sat.---/\ /\ ---sat.---bridge bridge--DSU
> | | modem modem | | |
> ------------ ---------- |
> *Segment #1* *Segment #2* |
> T1 |
> |
> host bridge---DSU
> | |
> -------------
> *Segment #3*
>
You didn't include the speeds for each of the WAN segments but I'll
assume that the big bottleneck is the satellite hop. You will pick up
about 750 ms delay for every hop over a satellite shot. The delay does
nasty things to protocols like X.25 & TCP that are expecting a
acknowledgment from the far end that the data was transmitted without
error.
You may also have exceeded the capacity of your WAN segments to carry
data. When you exceed the capacity of the WAN your data will begin to
buffer up and increase the delay in the network. You can also
experience a condition called "thrash" were your data buffering up
causes retransmit timers to pop. The datagrams caught up in the
congestions are retransmitted causing even more congestion in the
network.
There are techniques for setting timers, frame sizes, and window size
to combat the delay and increase throughput on the WAN.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> EDITOR's COMMENT:
>> The following paragraph is incorrect, bridges do filtering, so not all
>> datagrams are passed.
When the entire network was being bridged all datagrams on all
segments were transmitted to every segment in the network. Therefore
heavy usage between workstations on segment #3 could cause network
congestion between segment #1 and #2.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When you reconfigured to a routed network only those datagrams that
are addressed to a workstation on another segment are actually passed
on the WAN segments. Your traffic is now probably within the capacity
of the WAN segments to carry data and therefore you don't experience
the buffer or network delay.
> I was under the impression that bridges were more efficient because
> of lower overhead, less complexity, etc. and therefore would offer
> the better performance.
In some cases bridges offer better performance. Sometimes they are
murder on the network.
If segment #1 was an engineering office running high power
workstations and passing gigabytes of data between stations then a
bridged configuration won't work. If the entire network is an IPX
network with light traffic between users and NOVELL mail servers then
a bridged configuration might work.
As with most things in communications today the official answer is "
well, maybe yes ... maybe no ...".
> Does anyone have thoughts on the matter?
My personal opinion is that bridging in a WAN environment is probally
a bad idea. It's better to go with the routed configuration.
I be out of the office next week so I won't be able to respond to any
follow up posts. I hope this helps to clear things up a little.
From: leo@elmail.co.uk (E.J.Leoni-Smith)
Organization: ElectricMail News Service
In general bridge for performance and route for security.
Routing enforces pre-deetermined segmntation. Bridging tends to
adapt to the traffic.
Routing also restricts broadcasts, so it tends to keep inter segment
traffic to a minimum
Bridging is easier to make work at very high throughputs: there is
less computation per packet I think.
From: cwg@urbino.mcc.com (Chris Garrigues)
Organization: Microelectronics and Computer Technology Corporation (MCC)
E.J.Leoni-Smith wrote in article <CtBM89.wM@elmail.co.uk> :
EJLS>
EJLS>In general bridge for performance and route for security.
EJLS>
EJLS>routing enforces pre-deetermined segmntation. Bridging tends to
EJLS>adapt to the traffic.
EJLS>
EJLS>
EJLS>Routing also restricts broadcasts, so it tends to keep inter segment
EJLS>traffic to a minimum
If the network is sufficiently large, on a well engineered network you
can get better performance out of a routed network than a bridged
network because there's better control over what packets are sent
where. (Give your doom players their own segment.) The problem is
that a lot of sites don't have the talent available to engineer the
network well, or the physical geography limits the ability to properly
segment traffic.
From: David Devereaux-Weber <weberdd@clover.macc.wisc.edu>
Organization: TELECOM Digest
It depends on what protocols the network is carying. Routers can
improve performance on several protocols by reducing unnecessary
broadcast traffic -- for example, in an IPX network, if there are many
servers, the servers periodically advertise their resources to the
network in broadcast messages. Routers can suppress redundant
messages like that and then regenerate them on the other end of a
link. Furthermore, plain old IPX (without packet burst) sends a
packet at a time and then waits for an acknowledgement that the packet
arrived at the far end. A satellite circuit has a significant delay,
which severely limits throughput. Routers can "spoof" the IPX
protocol by sending an acknowledgement (an electronic white lie) from
the local router before the packet is recieved by the far end. The
far router blocks the acknowledgement, because it knows the near
router has already simulated it. Because of the magnitude of the
delay of the satellite link, several packets can be in the pipeline
during the time required to send just one and wait for the ack.
If your network is IP, much of the broadcast traffic (like ARP
packets) can be kept off narrow bandwidth long delay circuits like the
satellite link.
So, in a purely local, wide bandwidth network, a bridge has less
latency than a router, but in a narrow, long delay network like one
with a satellite link, a router can reduce broadcast traffic and
improve performance on many protocols.
From: lars@Eskimo.CPH.RNS.COM (Lars Poulsen)
Organization: Rockwell Network Systems, Copenhagen DENMARK
> I have a puzzling (at least to me) situation. We have a simple
> network with a satellite link included. Orginally, we bridged three
> ethernet segments ... ... ... ... ... ... and got poorer that expected
> results. We decided to replace the bridges with routers, one per
> segment. The throughput was tripled!
> I was under the impression that bridges were more efficient because of
> lower overhead, less complexity, etc. and therefore would offer the
> better performance.
The most likely reason for your poor performance, is that one of the
sites in question is a LARGE network (maybe several hundred stations
or more ?) and the amount of broadcast/multicast traffic floating
around in the network is eating up all the bandwidth of the DS-1 link.
When connecting multiple LANs into one extended network, the
connection can be implemented with different logical models.
Bridging is the lowest level model; it takes to similar networks (such
as two Ethernets or two Token-Rings) and joins them intpo one logical
network. A bridge device on each end of the link:
- goes into promiscuous mode (snooping on all traffic)
- keeps track of which devices (identified by their Ethernet addresses)
are on each end, and
- forwards traffic for any device not know to be on the same LAN as
the sender, as well as all broadcast/multicast messages across the link.
Because this is done at Media Attachment Control (MAC) level, it is
protocol independent, and requires very little setup.
The downside is that all broadcast/multicast traffic is forwarded, as
well as traffic from protocols that are entirely unsuited for wide
area traffic. The larger the combined network, the larger the amount
of background "slosh" og broadcasts, even as a percentage of total
traffic. (For instance, every ARP request will be sent everywhere,
theough almost all of them are for stations local to the sender.)
When you have a couple hundred workstations, you are likely to have
about 32 Kbps worth of "slosh". (Meaning you need a T1 to get any WORK
done.)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> EDITOR's COMMENT
>> Some bridges can and do filter on protocol type, and can filter all
>> broadcasts.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To overcome the deficiencies of bridging, you need a router. Routers
must understand each protocol and must be configured appropriately for
each protocol. This means that somewhere in the organization there has
to be a person who understands each protocol that is being routed, and
who can set up an addressing plan and troubleshoot when problems
arise.
For a good textbook in this area, I recommend Radia Perlman's book
"Interconnections: Bridges and Routers". Addison-Wesley, 1992. ISBN
0-201-56332-0. I think I paid $53.26 (incl CA tax).
------------
Scott Thomas
Hughes Information Technology Corp.
e-mail: sthomas@mitchell.hitc.com
phone: (703) 759-1382
fax: (703) 438-8430
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Subject: Tie Line Alternatives/Advice Sought
From: howard.ball@execnet.com (Howard Ball)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 94 22:21:00 -0500
Organization: The Executive Network Information System
Does anyone know of a cost effective microwave or radio link for
tie-lines:
My employer (a specialty retailer) relocated my department
(communications) in a building next to the building of several other
departments. This is in midtown Manhattan. The buildings do not have
any common passageway, having their own walls, however there is a
courtyard common between them. We lease our space in these buildings
which house other lessees as well.
Each of our office locations has its own PBX. We guess that there are
about 100 calls made between buildings. (I will research traffic as
part of the process of implementing a tie; however, the decision to
link was made by senior management and a cost limit given. This is not
really an investment decision. While least (475 min left), (H)elp,
More? nscost is still desirable, least cost would be to continue with
no change.) I would like between 4 and 24 channels, depending on cost
and traffic.
Presently calls from one location go out to the central office just
like any other Manhattan call. My manager has decided not to use tie
line arrangements via NYNEX on the basis of cost. I am exploring
having a cable routed along the courtyard which will mean drilling
holes through the walls. Only one of our premises has windows facing
this courtyard.
We will need the permission of the building management to implement
the external cabling. I would like to scope out other alternatives
such as microwave or radio link. While 900 Mhz cordless phones would
probably span the gap, this would not be a tie-line arrangement which
is desired so that anyone in one building could call anyone in the
other building with a 4 digit extension the same way they make
internal calls now and also share our lower cost long distance
service.
A multichannel radio link that could be connected to telephone pairs
in the same way trunks would be acceptable. Similarly if microwave
located INSIDE could span the 30 foot gap and penetrate the wall and
window, fine.
I also had the thought of bouncing signals off buildings across the
street; both locations have windows facing this major wide avenue. In
these cases, the link must be reliable in all kinds of weather. We
would not be able to make any arrangements with the building owners of
these facing buildings for either reflectors or notification of
construction, demolition, etc.
Can anyone recommend equipment vendors with possible solutions?
Thanks,
Howard Reply via Internet to howard.ball@execnet.com
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From: niel@marge.mikom.csir.co.za (Niel Viljoen)
Subject: GSM Encryption References Wanted
Date: 29 Jul 1994 19:49:07 GMT
Organization: Mikomtek - CSIR
1) Could anybody point me to some references as to the algortihms (if public).
2) Are these always used?
Cheers and thanks,
Neil
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Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 13:09:22 MDT
From: Book Review: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Networking Applications of UNIX Systen V" by Padovano
BKNTAPUN.RVW 940504
Prentice Hall
113 Sylvan Avenue
Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632
(515) 284-6751
FAX (515) 284-2607
or
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or
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or
15 Columbus Circle
New York, NY 10023
800-428-5331
or
Market Cross House
Cooper Street
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England
phyllis@prenhall.com - Phyllis Eve Bregman is postmaster
70621.2737@CompuServe.COM Alan Apt
Beth Mullen-Hespe beth_hespe@prenhall.com
"Networking Applications of UNIX System V", Padovano, 1993, 0-13-613555-2
padovano@remus.rutgers.edu
As the title implies, this text is primarily of use to those studying
the System V Release 4 variant of UNIX (descended from the AT&T
family), which also covers implementations such as Solaris 2. The
STREAMS model is introduced, and while TCP/IP, UUCP and NFS are
covered, it is from an SVR4 perspective.
Within these limits, the book is clear, well organized, and complete.
Each chapter contains a well-chosen bibliography, and a challenging
set of exercises.
The text concentrates on functions rather than applications. This is
a departure from a number of recent texts which present the concepts
within a framework of a larger program, but the code presented is
ample to illustrate the points being made.
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1994 BKNTAPUN.RVW 940504. Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated newsgroups/mailing lists.
Vancouver ROBERTS@decus.ca
Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca
Research into rslade@cue.bc.ca
User p1@CyberStore.ca
Security Canada V7K 2G6
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Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 14:36:51 MST
From: Daryl Gibson <DRG@du1.byu.edu>
Subject: Rotary Phones
The July 28 {Wall Street Journal} has a piece on the trials of using a
rotary phone. Obviously, copyright law and all, I can't quote the
whole thing, but I thought you'd find these two paragraphs
interesting ...
A major point of rotary's appeal is their
durability. Cased in metal or bakelite, a
very durable plastic, a rotary phone can stand
up to a lot of torture. When he was 12 years old,
Russell Carrick of Boston remembers watching his
friends trying to blow up rotary phones by placing
firecrackers beneath them.
"It did nothing," recalls Mr. Carrick, now 25.
"Those phones were built like tanks."
The story also notes that AT&T *leased* about 20,000 refurbished
rotaries last year, and continues to offer the phones because there is
still a demand.
It also features the following:
Some people are simply nostalgic. "These phones
lived through the Depression, World War II, Prohibition,"
says Mike Margolius, an Atlanta antiques dealer who specializes
in restoring rotaries. "If these phones could talk, it's
great what they would whisper in your ear."
Daryl
(801)378- 2950 (801) 489-6348
drg@du1.byu.edu 71171.2036@compuserve.com
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well Daryl, those phones go back to the
time now over a decade ago when the Bell System used to run the phone
network in the USA. In those days, a lot more people too pride in their
craftsmanship. Phones quite often lasted 40-50 years without breaking
down. Now and then you still see one of those better quality older phones
around, still in service. I think the same article in the WSJ said that
about 11 percent of the people in the USA still prefer to use rotary dial
service. When I have occassion to use it I find it a nuisance. PAT]
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 12:34:23 -0400
Subject: AC 813 Split Press Release
From: Paul A. Lee </DD.ID=JES2CAOF.UEDCM09/@SMX.sprint.com>
Organization: Woolworth Corporation
Since we have sites in GTE Florida territory, a recent mention in
{TELECOM Digest} of an impending split of NPA 813 caught my attention.
I contacted GTE Florida and they sent me the following press release:
June 30, 1994
GTE Customers in Polk, Manatee and Sarasota Counties
to Receive New 941 Area Code in 1995
Tampa, FL -- The 813 area code will be divided into two area codes
effective May 28, 1995. GTE customers in Hillsborough, Pinellas and
Pasco counties who currently have an 813 area code will keep the same
area code. Customers in Polk, Manatee and Sarasota counties will be
assigned the new 941 area code. Sprint/United Telephone-Florida
customers in the 813 area will also be assigned the new 941 area code.
The new area code is necessary because the southwest coast of Florida
is running out of seven-digit telephone numbers. According to GTE
Florida President Peter A. Daks, the demand for telephone numbers has
increased due to population growth, business expansion, and new
technologies. "Customer use of cellular phones, fax machines, pagers,
computer modems and other technologies has exploded," said Daks.
"Without this split, we projected that we would literally run out of
telephone numbers in late 1996."
Between May 28, 1995 and March 3, 1996, callers are encouraged to
begin using the new 941 area code. After March 3, 1996, it will be
mandatory to dial the new area code or callers will receive an
intercept message instructing them to redial using the 941 area code.
The area code boundaries were designed to allow maximum time before
the next area code split would be necessary. GTE's current forecasts
indicate the 813 and 941 area codes will provide sufficient telephone
numbers to accommodate growth until 2012.
GTE Florida, Inc. provides high-quality voice and data communications
services to customers through approximately two million access lines
in Hillsborough, Manatee, Pasco, Pinellas, Polk and Sarasota counties.
---------------
Paul A. Lee Voice 414 357-1409
Telecommunications Analyst FAX 414 357-1450
Woolworth Corporation CompuServe 70353,566
INTERNET </DD.ID=JES2CAOF.UEDCM09/@SMX.sprint.com>
------------------------------
From: wdawson@willard.atl.ga.us (Willard Dawson)
Subject: Telephony Over the Internet
Organization: Willard's House
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 11:08:19 GMT
A discussion currently conducted on the com-priv mailing list has
mentioned that there already exists software to allow one to do
two-way voice conferences (aka, a telephone call) over the Internet.
Is there a convenient summary of the state of the art, hopefully
including a list of available software?
One of the posters on com-priv mentioned a program called IVC. My
inital archie searches turned up nothing ...
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Re: Measured and Unlimited Service at Same Residence (Steve Forrette)
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From: stevef@wrq.com (Steve Forrette)
Subject: Re: Measured and Unlimited Service at Same Residence
Date: 28 Jul 1994 22:41:04 GMT
Organization: Walker Richer & Quinn, Inc.
Reply-To: stevef@wrq.com (Steve Forrette)
In <telecom14.335.8@eecs.nwu.edu>, mmathews@hadron.wellfleet.com (Mat
Mathews) writes:
> I just recently ordered a second line at my apartment for computer
use. NYNEX tells me, however, that it IS NOT POSSIBLE to have
measured and unlimited service at the same residence.
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: About the only time you can get telco
> to install one of each on the same premises is if there are two or more
> distinct persons sharing the premises, and each claims that he is in
> exclusive control of and is the exclusive user of his particular service;
This is not true in all areas. In Washington State and in California,
the tariffs are written such that both businesses and residences can
have any mix of measured and unmeasured service at the same location
(well, unmeasured business service does not exist in California, so
the question is moot in that case). California did have a prohibition
against this similar to New York's until around 1991 when they changed
it for residence customers. I've had a mix of measured and unmeasured
in both states, and never had a problem ordering it since it is
explicitly permitted by tariff.
> Then there are the folks with semi-public payphones on their
> business premises. On those, the subscriber can have an 'answer-only
> extension' installed if desired, which is a phone without a dial or
> touchtone pad, purely for answering purposes if the semi-public coin
> phone gets an incoming call. Telco refuses to do it, and the
> sophisticated subscriber then says, 'well, I want an answer-only
> extension for the payphone and I want you to terminate it on my
> existing multi-line phone on an idle pair ...'. Now telco is stuck
> because your existing multi-line phone has touchtone or dial on it of
> course. If a rotary dial, they just won't do it; if a touchtone they
> *will* but in the process they reverse the polarity on that particular
> pair to disable your ability to dial out on that line regardless of
> having a touch tone pad on the phone or not.
Ah, Pat, you are showing your age here :-) Much of what you said above
is no longer true, although it used to be. Back in the "no dialtone
until initial rate is deposited" days of payphones, it was necessary
for telco to put in payphone extensions with no dial pads or with
polarity-reversed touchtone pads, but no more. Virtually all areas
have the coin collection controlled by the CO -- the phone merely
reports to the CO how many coins have been deposited, and the CO then
decides whether or not to let the call go through. Because of this,
there is no problem in connecting any sort of phone, rotary or tone,
to a payphone line. If you try to dial a local or long-distance call
directly, a recording comes on to tell you to "please deposit $x.xx".
Of course, you can't do this from the non-coin extension, but you are
perfectly able to receive calls, or place emergency, toll-free, or
calling card calls from the extension. A polarity-reversed tone phone
wouldn't prevent you from dialing anyway, since most (all?) touch-tone
telephones manufactured in the last ten years or so don't care about
the polarity and will generate tones either way.
My experience with Pacific Bell is that they no longer will install
extension jacks for semi-public phones. Of course, there is no
technical reason to stop you from doing this yourself. They won't
like it if they find out, although I don't know why since it does not
allow you to place free calls. However, I used to live in a place
that had one that had been installed many years ago (pre-divestiture)
when a tariff was in place for this, and we were allowed to officially
keep it since we were grandfathered.
Another unusual arrangement we had was to have two payphones on each
of two lines. When one of them was stolen, we called Pacific Bell to
have it replaced. The people in Repair just would not believe that we
had had two payphones on the same line (they correctly showed that we
were paying for only two semi-public coin lines, and therefore
concluded that we were entitled to only two coin phones). They
thought we had installed them ourselves or had put a COCOT on the
line, but all of the phones were indeed genuine Pacific Bell coin
telephones that they had installed themselves. Since it was no longer
possible to order multiple coin phones on the same line, we had not
even been charged for the extra phones for several years. They
finally talked to an old-timer in repair that could vaguely remember
that this arrangement had at one time been allowed, so they didn't
send the phone police out to get the other extra one, but they would
not replace the one that had been stolen. This was all around 1989 or
so.
Steve Forrette, stevef@wrq.com
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There once was this cocky young man who
knew everything there was to know about phones, around 1956 or so. His
uncle operated a Walgreen Agency drugstore in Whiting, Indiana. The
drugstore had a phone at the front counter, and a phone at the pharmacy
in back, plus a pay phone. Seems to me the phone number was Whiting 89
or something like that; it was before automatic dialing. There was also
a Genuine Bell payphone -- in a booth with a door that closed on the
front for the privacy of the person making the call. The booth had a
little seat inside. The payphone was something like Whiting 9285. It
was a ground-start type line, and depositing a five cent coin in the
right hand (of three, 5/10/25 cent) slot tripped a little lever which
sent the line to ground for just the instant needed to activate it.
Deposit the five cents and battery would come on the line followed
a few seconds to a minute later by an operator asking 'number please'.
The phone at the pharmacy counter was an interesting multi-line deal
with a hold button and five buttons for lines. The pharmacy had its
own private number in addition to Whiting 89 for the store itself. This
phone had just a blank front with no dial of any kind since that
sort of phone service was not available in Whiting yet.
This smart kid, he says, "Uncle Tom, you oughta have an extension from
the payphone back here so you could answer it when it rings instead of
having to run to the front and answer only to find out its some teenage
girl calling to see if her boyfriend is sitting at the fountain drinking
a Coke." Uncle Tom thought that was a good idea, so the smart kid sets
about wiring it up. From in back where all the phones terminate anyway
he just runs a wire to the control box which handles the multi-line phone
at the pharmacy and pops the payphone on one of the line buttons. To be
clever, he takes still another of the unused line buttons (there were five
to begin with and only two actual phone lines [Whiting 89 and whatever
the number was for the pharmacy counter] there, so that left three buttons
to play with) and adjusts the little spring-loaded ball bearings under-
neath -- the ones that slide back and forth causing one button to pop up
when another is pressed down -- on the last button. Now instead of staying
down when pressed, it pops right back up. Take the pair associated there
and send one side to ground while the other side is attached to one side
of the pair serving the payphone. Now when Uncle Tom would lift the phone
receiver and press the key for the line serving as the payphone extension
he would hear nothing -- all payphones in those days were ground start
lines -- but as soon as he pressed and released the button next to it on
the phone, ground was applied to the payphone. Presently the operator would
answer and take the request; no need to give her five cents.
Then one day the Telephone Inspector came to the premises. A normally
cheerful, very rotund fellow from years of eating well on his phone company
expense account with a large, bulbous and very red nose caused no doubt
by all the iced tea he consumed every day, his mission was to protect
the company's interests. The phreaks of those days thought he knew too
much for his own good, and his feeling toward smart-alecky children was
mutual. A few minutes of investigation with him prodding the innards of
the control box in back and the five-line phone told him what he needed
to know. "Ummm hmmm," he muttered to himself, looking over the top of
his spectacles which were perched on his nose as he prodded around the
inside of the phone. The cocky kid is hiding in the storeroom in back,
carefully peeking out the door watching his work get undone. Inspector
warns Uncle Tom not to let this happen again or his service will get
disconnected. "I am supposed to report this to the manager, but maybe
there is a way to overlook it ..." Uncle Tom understands, and something
passes from his hand to the Inspector's hand as they 'shake hands on
it'. The Inspector lifts the phone and when the operator asks 'number
please' he says 'give me the Business Office'. He chats with someone
there and reports the 'problem' has been corrected. 'A couple of lines
that were intermittently shorting out ...'.
On his way out, the Inspector sees the cocky kid who has by now left
by the back door and is innocently standing on the sidewalk in front.
"Listen, you see anyone messing with the phone back there?". Nope says
the kid, but not very convincingly. "Well if I catch the little bastard
whose handiwork that was I'll whip his ass. And you tell him that!" The
kid assures the Inspector he will watch carefully to make sure 'no one
messes around with the phone again' ... PAT]
------------------------------
From: doug.granzow@cynosure.clark.net (Doug Granzow)
Subject: Re: Measured and Unlimited Service at Same Residence
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 05:04:15 GMT
Organization: Cynosure Online - 410-781-6271
> To get back to your original question, no they won't
> install metered service at your premises then turn around and give
> you a way to bypass the meter. Makes sense to me. PAT]
Doesn't make sense to me. Does it somehow follow that if I add a
second line to my house, that I will make more phone calls? There are
three lines in the house I live in -- the two extra are for incoming
calls (I run a BBS). One phone line has unlimited local calls, the
other two carry a nine cent charge for each local call. (Two are in my
name: one unlimited, one measured. One is in another name: measured.)
Bell Atlantic has never had a problem with this arrangement. Their
only problem is that since one of my lines is a foreign exchange, it's
billed seperately from my other line. So, three phone bills arrive at
this house every month, and three sets of phone books arrive each
year. Wasteful on Bell's part, but they don't charge me more, so I
don't complain.
Doug Granzow dig@cynosure.clark.net
------------------------------
From: stans@panix.com (Stan Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Measured and Unlimited Service at Same Residence
Date: 29 Jul 1994 09:51:27 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Mat Mathews (mmathews@hadron.wellfleet.com) wrote:
> I just recently ordered a second line at my apartment for computer
> use. Since my company provides an 800 number for the dial-in line, I
> decided to order a measured-service line. NYNEX tells me, however,
> that it IS NOT POSSIBLE to have measured and unlimited service at the
> same residence. Why is this? The sales rep said something about the
> impossibility of wiring such a setup. It seems to me that every
> network interface should be separately configurable. I know that they
> would never see a dime on the measured line if there is an unlimited
> line there too, but surely such a configuration is not impossible.
> Anybody know?
NYNEX discontinued the policy of allowing Flat Rate and Untimed
Message Rate residence services to be installed in the same house more
than ten years ago. At that time, my parents had that setup exactly,
but NYNEX (NY Tel at the time -- it was even Ma Bell!) allowed anyone
who already had the service to continue with it. If you moved or
changed your service, you lost the grandfather rights. My parents (and
most of the other parents in the neighborhood) had it and it worked
out nicely -- the flat rate line was the "kids" line, assuming that
all our friends would be within the local calling area. The other
line was what we used for extended area and all incoming calls,
keeping the flat rate line free for those "free" calls. Most people
went so far as to have the flat rate line non-published, so they could
avoid the problem of incoming callsieing up the outgoing line.
Stan
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 94 02:10:12 EDT
From: mark@legend.akron.oh.us (Mark E Daniel)
Subject: Re: Measured and Unlimited Service at Same Residence
I don't know why they think we're all stupid. It has absolutly
nothing to do with *wiring*, except maybe the wires that make the
Phone Company ramble out useless answers to questions just to get
customers off their backs.
It's basically that The Phone Company doesn't want you having
measured service and unlimited service and making all your calls on
your unlimited line, thus saving them of precious money they could be
making from you. *Cough*.
I *believe* the Ohio PUCO stopped Ameritech from using the same
practice here. Perhaps getting your PUCO involved can provide you
with similar results.
mark@legend.akron.oh.us
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 00:11:45 -0700
From: john@bovine.ati.com (John Higdon)
Subject: Re: Measured and Unlimited Service at Same Residence
mmathews@hadron.wellfleet.com (Mat Mathews) writes:
> I just recently ordered a second line at my apartment for computer
> use. Since my company provides an 800 number for the dial-in line, I
> decided to order a measured-service line. NYNEX tells me, however,
> that it IS NOT POSSIBLE to have measured and unlimited service at the
> same residence. Why is this?
Probably because Nynex feels that this is a necessary way to extract
the last farthing from you. While I snort aplenty about Pac*Bell, at
least that company has absolutely no restrictions concerning mix and
match on classes of service.
In Pac*Bell territory, you may order ANY number of unmeasured,
measured, or business service at your residence. You may, if you like,
have one unmeasured line and twenty measured lines if that strikes
your fancy. Furthermore, you may have them all part of a Commstar
(mini-Centrex) group. In other words, you can make a local call on
your unmeasured line, transfer it to your measured line, and then talk
to your heart's content without incurring any local charges.
Somehow Pac*Bell manages to survive with some of the lowest rates in
the country AND have people "take advantage of them" by using
unmeasured lines for local calls and measured lines for BBSes and
other "incoming" purposes at home.
It never seemed odd to me to be able to order the type of service
needed without having a stack of screwy restrictions attached designed
to tilt the game table toward the service provider.
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note:
> To get back to your original question, no they won't install metered
> service at your premises then turn around and give you a way to bypass
> the meter. Makes sense to me. PAT]
But not to me. If the telco is selling unmeasured service, is it not
done so expecting that the customer will make calls? Why does the
presence of a measured line disqualify the customer from enjoying the
service he is paying for on the unmeasured line? Does the presence of
a measured line encourage an inordinate outgoing use of the unmeasured
line?
If a customer has a measure line and an unmeasured line, he is getting
exactly what he is paying for: a more expensive line on which
unlimited local calls are possible; and a less expensive line on which
local calls are charged for. Reading anything else into the arrangement
is removing the concept of a simple "payment for service received" arrange-
ment and puts it into a "the customer is only entitled to thus and so"
sort of rationing domain.
I am afraid that I have never been able to comprehend the reasoning
(other than greed or the desire to discourage having to provide extra
service in a neighborhood) behind the rules against mixing classes of
service in a residence. Pac*Bell's tariffs on this matter (or more
properly, the lack of them) indicates a dose of reality rarely seen in
the utility business.
John Higdon | P.O. Box 7648 | +1 408 264 4115 | FAX:
john@ati.com | San Jose, CA 95150 | 10288 0 700 FOR-A-MOO | +1 408 264 4407
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 09:15:57 -0500
From: Jonathan_Welch <JHWELCH@ecs.umass.edu>
Subject: Rotary Extension on Pay Phone
> On those, the subscriber can have an 'answer-only extension' installed
> if desired, which is a phone without a dial or touchtone pad, purely
> for answering purposes if the semi-public coin phone gets an incoming
> call.
At the yacht club I belong to there's a NET pay phone in the clubhouse.
For years there was a jack in the steward's office so they could answer the
phone more easily. Due to storm damage the jack went dead and the
phone man who came out must have seen the rotary phone attached to it
while he was running a much better line.
I've tried dialing out from this extension with no luck, but I think
people have successfully placed collect calls via the operator. Does
this sound right to you?
Jonathan Welch VAX Systems Manager Umass/Amherst JHWELCH@ecs.umass.edu
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: We know that in the olden days of rotary
dial, you could not have two or more phones on the same line *off hook
at the same time when trying to dial* since the signalling depended on
the rapid opening and closing of the loop causing rapid changes in the
electrical status of the line. These rapid changes, or pulses, were
counted to detirmine what number was desired. By having a second phone
off the hook at the same time, the loop would never go open, thus the
dialing would never be recognized. You can fix a rotary dial phone so
that it won't cut the dial tone by making a couple of simple wiring
changes inside the instrument which is probably what the repairman did
when he went to the clubhouse. You can 'dial' a phone by tapping up and
down rapidly on the switchhook the desired number of times however. It
gets tricky making it accurate, but with some practice most people can
easily tap the hook ten times in the proper rythym to simulate dialing
the operator. PAT]
------------------------------
From: rma@ahrens.irvine.dg.com (Rich Ahrens)
Subject: Re: Secret Life of Bank Machines: Simple Tech Explanations Sought
Date: 28 Jul 1994 19:39:56 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC
In article <telecom14.331.2@eecs.nwu.edu>, md@pstc3.pstc.brown.edu
(Michael P. Deignan) writes:
> Again, different systems vary. I've never seen a system that uses the
> method you describe, but then again, I only worked at regional banks.
> Many ATM's are intelligent and do a significant amount of processing
> on their own; all they need to do is send a small message back to the
> central computer to effect an account transaction and get a one-byte
> reply code back. For instance, a typical data stream to the central
> computer will consist of a transaction code, account number, and
> amount. So, you may be talking 20 bytes total going to the central
> computer, and then a one-byte reply code being returned (00=okay,
> 01=insufficient funds, 02= account closed, etc.)
Which reminds me of a tale I heard in a class I took from Tymnet a
while back. The instructor was talking about a network of ATMs in the
U.K., connected to the central facility via a packet network,
presumably Tymnet. They would establish a virtual circuit each for
each session. The network protocol allowed for a certain amount of
user data in the packet which requested the VC, and more in the
packets accepting or denying it. Apparently the bank recognized an
opportunity: all the necessary data per transaction would fit into the
small user data field of the request packet, and the central facility
could return the results the same way, denying each VC request. No
circuits set up, no network charges applied, and everyone was happy
for something like nine months until the network folks finally caught
on and managed to get severe penalties applied somehow.
Rich Ahrens, Data General Corporation rma@irvine.dg.com
2603 Main St, Ste 400, Irvine,CA 92714-6232 rich_ahrens@dgc.ceo.dg.com
Voice: 714-724-3934
FAX: 714-724-3989
------------------------------
From: rjones@halcyon.com (Ry Jones)
Subject: Re: What's Wrong With My Caller-ID-With-Name?
Date: 28 Jul 1994 00:31:59 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
Jim Derdzinski (73114.3146@compuserve.com) wrote:
> my name didn't show up on their displays. When I would call them, all
> they would get is my number and "----------------" for a name. I
> noticed that this has been happening on a lot of calls I receive as
> well. Note that this name and number service is available in the
> areas these calls originate from. The number always shows up
> flawlessly, but no name.
I noticed this when I first got mine installed, but it went away after
the first week or two (it has always worked correctly since then).
When my pals move around (and get a new phone), they come down the
line as "PRIVATE NAME / 206 xxx xxxx" or "--- -E- ---/206 xxx xxxx"
for a little bit, then the programming is completed and everything
works. I am in USWEST territory, served by a 1AESS.
> I might add that this seems to be happening on calls originating from
> recently installed or relocated numbers.
Righto.
> P.S. What is that "0R" that follows the name that I have seen periodically?
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Sounds to me like someone in the business
> office did not do their paperwork correctly when you had your service
> turned on. Copies of the order are *supposed* to go to various departments
> for inclusion in their systems. The '0R' appears to be a programming error.
> Someone incorrectly closed their parenthesis or quote mark in some print
> statement. The '0R' is supposed to be an op code to accomplish something
> else. PAT]
Pat,
I see this topic flare up on alt.2600, alt.dcom.telecom, and
comp.dcom.telecom.tech from time to time. If this is a programming
error (which I'm incline to think it must be), then it's endemic to
CLID programmers. We should find out where this programming error is
introduced. Perhaps it's a certain manufacturer's equipment ... ?
Surely we have enough people with current ONA disks for their area
that we can find out what equipment generates this spurious character.
Then again, why should WE debug the phone system? :)
rjones@halcyon.com
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The '0R' is either an op code or an
operand (the argument for an op code) of some sort. It probably says
what to do at the conclusion of the print statement which includes the
name and phone number. I don't think it is customer premises equipment
causing the problem. PAT]
------------------------------
From: sdenny@spd.dsccc.com (Stephen Denny)
Subject: Re: What's Wrong With My Caller-ID-With-Name?
Date: 28 Jul 1994 03:33:09 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corporation, Plano, Texas USA
Well, I have a theory. While the phone number is normally
automatically carried with the call, the name involves a database
lookup. Any sort of disruption to or in this database would not allow
the name to get through, but the number would always be available.
Perhaps they take down the name server for updates or maintenance or
have failures with backups also failing, or just overloads of the
system?
I have no idea how long it would take to get the name "installed" into
the database, but this being a "relatively" new service, it wouldn't
surprise me if all the kinks weren't yet worked out of the system.
Regards,
Stephen Denny sdenny@spd.dsccc.com
DSC Communications Corp. Plano, TX
------------------------------
From: Arnette.P.Schultz@att.com
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 15:31:20 +0500
Subject: Re: What's Wrong With My Caller-ID-With-Name?
Organization: AT&T
In article <telecom14.336.1@eecs.nwu.edu>, Jim Derdzinski <73114.3146@compuserve.com> writes:
Subject: What's Wrong With My Caller-ID-With-Name?
> I might add that this seems to be happening on calls originating from
> recently installed or relocated numbers.
Bingo! Although as you later point out "recently installed or
relocated" seems to extend up to six to nine months.
> Comments? Ideas? How does the name system work anyway? Any
> Ameritech people out there? I'm about ready to cancel this service
> since it only seems to work right half the time.
The calling name system as deployed in the USA utilizes database
queries to obtain the caller's name based on the calling party number.
The name database is administered by the local exchange carrier
providing the calling name service. Some smaller telco's may share a
name database, or lease one from another provider. The name database
is most likely populated from business (billing records). New lines
or recently moved lines will take some time to show up, as this is a
separate DB from the actual telephone office "data" and is also
(likely) separate from the real billing DB.
There is also a possibility that access to the name database is
unavailable or that the DB will take "too long" to respond with the
information. So the call is completed with out the callers name. Such
occurrences should be very rare.
I have also noticed that "second" or "teen lines" that are apparently
billed to another number (e.g. I get two phone lines, but a single
bill at my house under one name) do not show up with a name here in
Ameritech land. We figured this one out with a teenager in the home.
All her friends have "their own phone line" (billed to mom and dad of
course!), and this has been the case even when those phone lines have
been active for two or three years.
As to the statement that the calling name service only appears to work
"part of the time", I have not experienced the same thing in the
Naperville CO. Except for one friend who moved (new line) in April,
and the teen lines I mentioned, I get name on all "in area" calls.
Makes it very handy to avoid the {Chicago Tribune} and {Daily Herald}.
My life is greatly improved now that I don't have to talk to those
"people" at dinner time!! (John H., maybe you should consider
relocating to a more progressive state like Illinois. :) :) :).
Arnette Schultz AT&T Network Systems arnette.schultz@att.com
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 94 01:11:22 CDT
From: clifto@indep1.chi.il.us (Clifton T. Sharp)
Subject: Re: What's Wrong With My Caller-ID-With-Name?
In article <telecom14.336.1@eecs.nwu.edu>, Jim Derdzinski <73114.3146@
compuserve.com> wrote:
> So, anybody know what the deal is here? Why did it take six months
> after I ordered telephone service here for my name to show?
Seems like they're a few months behind on entry into whatever database
they're using for name lookup. It seems to be the norm that names
show up some months after service is initiated; my bro-in-law took
about three months.
I managed to get mine in there right away (not exactly deliberately);
just for kicks, I decided to ask the police if I could test E911 here,
and they were slow enough to oblige. I called, and they told me in
stern, important tones that no information whatsoever showed on their
console, and that I'd better call Ameritech and get _that_ fixed for
my own safety! I'm guessing when I relate the two things, but my name
did show up on displays almost immediately after I got the service
installed.
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Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 13:08:32 MDT
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "The Whole Internet User's Guide and Catalog"
BKKROL.RVW 940506
O'Reilly and Associates
103 Morris St., Suite A
Sebastopol, CA 95472-9902
800-338-6887 fax: 707-829-0104
info@ora.com
"The Whole Internet User's Guide and Catalog", Krol, 1994, 1-56592-063-5,
U$24.95
krol@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
For those of us who have used the Internet for some time, the
enthusiasm of "newbies" can sometimes be tiring. You get used to
seeing articles, and hearing presentations, by those who are
breathless with excitement over the fact that they have received email
from someone in another country. Thus, when I first heard of this
book with the rather "california" title, I assumed I would be plowing
through old material and trying to be kind in the review.
The day I received the book, I had a use for an "Internet guide". I
had forgotten the site that allows posting from mail to the Usenet
newsgroups. So, I decided to put it to the test. I didn't find the
answer, but what I did find was a fascinating and useful resource,
well worth the time (and book price) invested by novice and devotee
alike. In an environment where everyone and his dog seems to be
writing an Internet book, Krol has held a largely deserved place in
the pantheon, and is likely the most widely sold of the "resource"
level guides.
About three quarters of the book is devoted to the user's guide. It
is likely impossible to give a "non-user" a true feeling for the
"living" Internet in a "static" book, but this definitely comes close.
The "catalog" is rather small, but not to be skipped, taking up about
half of the remaining pages, with the rest assigned to four
appendices, a glossary and the index. All parts of the book seems to
have grown by about half again as much material as was included in the
first edition.
The user's guide contains fifteen chapters, implicitly divided into
four sections. Although there are no explicit divisions, the preface
suggests different "sets" of chapters for different types of users.
The first four chapters deal with background material; the book, the
Internet, what, who and how; while chapter fifteen covers problems
that may arise. The next four chapters describe the functions of the
basic tools of the Internet; telnet (using a "remote" computer), ftp
(copying files from a remote computer to your local computer system
and vice versa), electronic mail (including electronic "periodicals")
and the Usenet "news" discussion groups; to which chapter fourteen
adds "other applications". Chapters nine through thirteen are
concerned with "finding" different types of information; files
(archie), people (finger and whois), menus (gopher), related
information (the Web) and anything (WAIS).
Krol, in the introduction, suggests that this book is for anyone who
wants access to the resources of the Internet. This is definitely
valid. The vocabulary and style are accessible to any intelligent
reader, even without any background or familiarity with computers.
The examples are clear and well chosen. The range of material covered
is "sufficiently" complete: the Internet is still "under
construction", and probably will never be "finished", but the range of
topics covered is enough for all but the most specialized interest.
Indeed, the book is not only for the Internet novice. I practically
"live" on the Internet, and freely admit that much of the content even
in the original version was a new (and welcome) surprise.
I hesitate to say that I have any "complaints" about the book. Those
items that I might raise tend to fall into the misty areas of personal
opinion. Speaking personally, then, I would like to see some
"reordering" of sections of the book. Within the "section" composed
of chapters four to eight, I would suggest that mail and news are of
more interest to more people (especially newcomers) than telnet and
ftp. Also, although Krol explains his choice of UNIX as an "operating
system of choice" for examples of various systems, it is my opinion
that this is taken too far in certain areas. It tends to demonstrate
a "workstation" bias which may be hard to understand for those, likely
a majority, who have access to the Internet only through terminal
connections or personal computer "dial-in" situations. This is echoed
in the emphasis on WAIS and the Web. Although I would hardly
recommend eliminating the references to them, the amount of space
dedicated to these topics is likely lost on the majority of users who
do not have either dedicated or "SLIP" access, and therefore do not
have access to gopher, WAIS or Web clients (or Xwindows servers).
I have, perhaps, been unjust with my opening illustration: the
information about how to post to Usenet newsgroups from email *does*
appear in the book. However, I expected to find it in either the
chapter on mail (which does cover "distribution lists", the electronic
periodicals of the Internet) or in the Usenet news chapter. It
appears in neither, nor is it referenced in the index. It *used to*
appear in the "catalog", but I seem to have lost it in theis current
version. In the same way I was surprised to find that chapter seven,
in covering mail and the distribution lists, did not mention the "list
of lists", which gives information about how to access specific lists.
Again, this is not mentioned in the index, either, although it does
appear in the catalog -- and I am happy to see that information on how
to get it now uses ftp rather than WAIS. (In the first version the
dependence upon WAIS may have limited the usefulness of the catalog.
In "Computing" WAIS was used to access nine items: ftp, telnet, gopher
and email combined only give you sixteen. In "Network Information"
the imbalance was even more pronounced; WAIS is used ten times, the
others, combined, only four. The current catalog is much more
balanced, although I note a new preponderance of World Wide Web
items.)
The catalog can't really be considered a serious resource. How could
it? Fifty pages is only enough space for an unformatted printout of
the "list of lists" *or* a listing of the "backbone" Usenet
newsgroups. This would not leave space for explanation or any other
resources. Therefore the catalog should best be considered as,
perhaps, a pointer to a general topic. After you start making
contacts, you can take it from there. The catalog is, however, a lot
of fun to browse, and does, as mentioned earlier, contain some very
valuable information.
These comments do not, however, take away from the overriding
importance and usefulness of the book. The quote from "Communications
Week", used as a cover blurb, that it "... has become the Internet
user's bible" may be overstating the case with the raft of other
resources out there. It does, though, still hold a pre-eminent
position, and this new edition will help it hold that rank.
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1993, 1994 BKKROL.RVW 940506. Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated newsgroups/mailing lists.
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From: Fraser Zimmerman <nd@delphi.com>
Subject: List Your Company Free in Interactive Guide
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 94 14:15:28 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
You can list your company free among the movers and shakers of the
interactive world. The non-profit Interactive Television Association
(ITA) is producing the Only Guide to the Interactive Television
Industry.
The guide lists all companies with an interest in the industry,
including cable and phone companies, commercial on-line services,
software manufacturers, advertising agencies, direct marketers,
investors, infomercial producers and many others. Listings include
company names, contact information and where their interests lie. The
guide will also identify by category those companies staking an early
claim in the broad-based interactive market (valuable information for
investors, market researchers, etc.).
To be listed in the guide free of charge, please contact David Shelton
of the ITA at 202-408-0008 or send your request (with your fax number)
to nd@delphi.com. A limited amount of advertising space in the guide
is also being offered free of charge to members. Advertising is being
handled by Jim Ralston at 202-296-0263. ITA is planning to make the
Only Guide available late this summer.
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From: Anthony_Pelliccio@brown.edu (Tony Pelliccio)
Subject: NOS Like Application For Macintosh?
Date: 29 Jul 1994 02:03:38 GMT
Organization: Brown University ADIR
Ok ... now that I've finally figured out what we're doing I'll ask the
question. I have a remote office that has four Macintoshes on a localtalk
setup. We're trying to get this remote office tied into ours via SL/IP
in the least expensive way possible. As such 14.4 SL/IP has been
chosen.
What I need to do is find software for one of the Macs that will make
the dedicated SL/IP connection and also manage traffic locally, ie.
act as a router.
Someone has suggested that DOS boxes can use KA9Q's NOS to do what I'm
looking for but is there something like it for the Mac? The critical
applications we're running are a terminal emulator for a Data General
MV, and Eudora email. Anything else is secondary.
Please direct all response to email.
Thanks,
Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR, VE ARRL/W5YI Tel. (401) 863-1880
Brown University ADIR Fax. (401) 863-2269
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From: josephh888@aol.com (JosephH888)
Subject: Discount Data Lines
Date: 29 Jul 1994 23:45:13 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
The Gateway Group provides access to DISCOUNTED voice and data private
lines.
The network is configured by utilizing capacity from all of the major
fiber companies through long-term contractual agreements. The network
has been setup to select the best pricing and traffic routes available
from fiber companies in each part of the country. This strategy has
allowed our company to offer our customers electronic and line
diversity on most circuits at the best price available.
All customers are assigned an Account Manager. The Account Manager
provides one point of contact for service, account changes, and quote
requests. All Account Managers have been trained in customer service,
trouble shooting, computer networking and PBX Networking. The
experience of each Account Managers enables an extremely high
resolution rate for line trouble shooting.
There is a one-hour return call policy. If a customer cannot reach an
Account Manager on the first try, there is a guarantee of a call-back
in less than one hour.
Provided is a comprehensive package of vice, data, video and imaging
services including:
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D-3
Fractional DS-3 (T-3)
DS-1
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56 kbps DDS
DS-0 with DDS Access
DS-0 with VF Access
High-capacity switched digital services
Video Conferencing
Band-width on demand
Beyond the basic bandwidth offerings, value-added capabilities. such
as s real-time DS-1 performance monitoring and customized billing
services, are provided.
The Network incorporates technology unmatched in the industry, utilizing
expert systems the circuits are monitored nationwide in real-time, down to
the circuit level, 24 hours a day.
The Gateway Group
8 Buxley Court, Medford, N.J. 08055-9174
800-GATE888
JosephH888 (via AOL)
74124,2401 (via Compuservice)
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From: christos@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: Communicating Interactively Using Two PCs
Date: 29 Jul 94 19:36:06 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services
Hello there,
I am trying to exchange data from one PC computer to another
via the RS-232 interface. I have a null modem and I am connecting
these two machines through their serial port. What I would like to do
is to have an interactive communication between the two PCs. For
example, I would like to be able to get two windows so that I can see
in one of them what I am typing and on the other one I can see what
the remote user is typing. In other words, something similar to talk
that run on Internet.
Also,
-what other programs like kermit exist that allow me to do the above that are
public domain and where can I find them? Where can I find documentation about
these programs so that I can investigate various options?
-Is there any FAQ on pc communications? Where can get that?
I would appreciate any response.
Thanks in advance,
Chris
P.S. Please respond with e-mail. If anyone is interested in the responses
please let me know and I will mail all the information I get.
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From: knute@netcom.com (Ed Smith)
Subject: Bring Business Long Distance Costs Down
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 20:35:56 GMT
Businesses currently spending $500 to $5000 per month on telephone
bills can save an average of 30% by utilizing the services of MTC
Telemanagement Corporation. MTC is a value added switchless reseller.
Lower rates are automatic. The added value begins with:
1. Ongoing consulting for your future needs.
2. Periodic reveiws to maintain the lowest possible costs.
3. 7 day, 24 hour 800 service to help with any problems you may have.
4. FREE management reports to help you control costs.
5. An "Intelligent Invoice" that consolidates Services and Carriers.
6. Multiple offices or cost center consolidated on one report.
MTC offers a full range of services. They include:
1. Interstate and Intrastate Long distance Service.
2. 800 Service.
3. International Callback.
4. OneCard calling card with Passport features.
5. T-1 Services
6. Overnight delivery services through Airborne Express.
Quotes are available only if you are prepared to send a complete copy
of your most recent telephone bills. A complete set includes local,
long distance, 800, international, and calling card bills. Our flat
rate billing is discounted for volume. Please email a request for a
FREE quote and I will email the address to send your phone bills to.
Send email to knute@netcom.com, Subject: RequestQuote.
INTERNATIONAL CALLS FOR LESS
See Biz.Comp.Services
Germany $0.46, U.K. $0.29,
Hong Kong $0.52, Brazil $0.69
knute@netcom.com
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From: bstein@MCS.COM (Benjamin W. Stein)
Subject: Strange Cordless Phones
Date: 28 Jul 1994 08:48:06 -0500
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organi[sz]ation
The other day I was in a place in Chicago called Shutterbug. I don't
know how familiar anyone is with them, but they carry all sorts of
misc. electronics. In their collection were three or four high range
"Export only Cordless phones" They claimed out of the box the phones
had a range of like 20-30km, and with booster packs and high mounted
antennas several hundred KM. Anyone ever heard of these things
before? I do believe the name on the box was Jaguar.
Thanks
Benjamin Stein bstein@mcs.com
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Subject: Who Makes Two Line 900Mhz Cordless Phones?
From: howard.ball@execnet.com (Howard Ball)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 94 22:22:00 -0500
Organization: The Executive Network Information System
I am seeking a list of manufacturers of TWO-LINE 900Mhz cordless
phones.
The only such phone I've found so far is from Hello Direct of San
Jose, CA which offers the Tropez Platinum. (I never heard of Tropez).
Does anyone know of any others?
Thanks,
Howard Reply via Internet: howard.ball@execnet.com
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From: GESL@aol.com
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 94 13:31:02 EDT
Subject: Local Service Competition in New Jersey
COOPERATIVE COMMUNICATIONS
228 Belleville Turnpike
Kearny, NJ 07032
New LOCAL Program
Bell Atlantic Authorized Resale Carrier of ALL Local Services
Monday, July 25, 1994
Contact: Todd Broccolo
Cooperative Communications, Inc.
1-800-215-6788 Ext. 100
Kearny Cooperative Communications Inc. (CCI) is a long distance
telecommunications company based out of Kearny, New Jersey. Since
October 1993 CCI has had a very special agreement with BELL ATLANTIC
in New Jersey. Cooperative has the unique ability to carry LOCAL
service, as well as LONG DISTANCE, 800 SERVICE, CELLULAR, CALLING
CARDS, and CONFERENCING all on one invoice.
The LOCAL program offers reduced monthly line charges, institutes a
flat rate for toll calls, and bills the toll calls in six second
increments with a 30 second minimum just like long distance.
Message Unit calls are still billed at their current rate, and any
LOCAL calls that are currently less than $0.10 per minute will remain
at that their current rate. Any LOCAL calls that are currently
greater than $0.10 per minute will be reduced to $0.10 per minute! The
local rate of $0.10 per minute is also offered as the domestic LONG
DISTANCE rate! This service also offers 800 SERVICE with a flat rate
of $0.12 per minute day, $0.10 per minute night for any call originating
in the continental United States.
The program is currently available to any commercial business in eleven
distinct areas throughout northern New Jersey. These areas comprise
109 different exchanges.
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From: nieusma@InternetOne.COM (Jeff Nieusma)
Subject: AT&T HT5500 Question
Organization: Internet One
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 06:17:22 GMT
My AT&T HT5500 cordless/speaker phone just had an interesting
metamorphosis. I can JUST BARELY hear loud noises (such as DTMF) via
the handset, but the speaker phone works fine. I looked under the
hood and didn't see anything that jumped out at me... Anyone had any
experience with this before? Maybe it's just a burned out transistor?
Any pointers would be appreciated!
Jeff Nieusma Director of Engineering
303-444-1993 <nieusma@InternetOne.COM>
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From: marcg@arraycomm.com (Marc Goldburg)
Subject: Manufacturing Learning Curve
Reply-To: marcg@arraycomm.com
Organization: ArrayComm, Inc.
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 01:35:47 GMT
Perhaps some of you folks can help to settle a bet ... It's generally
accepted that the cost (in, say, constant dollars) of producing a
particular product decreases with the number of units shipped due to
economies of scale and improvements in manufacturing technique. A
simple exponential model might be:
Cost of Nth unit = (Cost of first unit) * (alpha)**N
where 0 < alpha <= 1.
I'd be interested in hearing of any such models (and, e.g., values of
alpha) that apply specifically to the production of user equipment and
service provider equipment for wireless telecom applications.
Please respond directly to me, I'll summarize for the net.
Thanks,
Marc Goldburg marcg@arraycomm.com
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From: ebobinsky@delphi.com
Subject: Bellcore Document for Sale
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 94 17:37:23 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
I have a copy of Bellcore Generic Requirements Document GR-2830-CORE,
"Primary Reference Sources for Digital Synchronized Networks: Generic
Requirements" which I no longer need. It's dated March '94, unmarked,
and sold by BC for $160. Yours for $80. Please call or email:
Eric Bobinsky 216-243-2992 ebobinsky@delphi.com
------------------------------
From: puppis@netcom.com (Eric Scott)
Subject: NET IDNX Question
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1994 18:56:42 GMT
Has anyone connected a T-1 circuit to a PRC card, created an aggregate
group of 24 DS0's, mapped it to a identically configured PRC card at
the other end of the network via a T-3 trunk?
The purpose being to pass an unchannelized T-1 circuit intact thru the
IDNX network.
Would appreciate any and all responses!
------------------------------
From: jlundgr@eis.calstate.edu (John E. Lundgren)
Subject: Re: Information on Fiber Optics Requested
Date: 28 Jul 1994 10:17:15 -0700
Organization: California Technology Project of The Calif State Univ
moodyblu@umcc.umcc.umich.edu (Matthew Scott Weisberg) writes:
> Recently, I posted a request for information on WANs for a project I
> was researching for the City of Novi, Michigan.
> Well, it turns out that the cable company here, MetroVision, is under
> an agreement to the city to provide Fiberoptics cable to every single
> municipal building!
> MetroVision is wiring the entire Oakland County with FiberOptics,
> expected to be completed by the end of 95. They have a very impressive
> network already it seems. Many of the schools here have something
> called INET, basically, the schools are using MetroVisions "B" cable
> to "share" classes on video and such. Supposedly, the original
> agreement was that Metrovisoin was to run two cables of 56 channels
> each to provide 112 channels to subscribers, however, they only run
> one cable, the "A" cable, to subscribers. I saw some maps of their
> current network, and they apparently have 750Mhz(?) of bandwith
> available in the Novi area.
> Anyway, what I need to know is what equipment would I need to attach
> to their fiber to our 10BASET ethernet networks in each building? How
> many strands would we need? They are running at least 12 strands to
> each building I think ... it could be more.
For fiber that's longer than a certain distance, I think is't a
kilometer, the standard is single mode. For interbuilding on a
campus, it's multimode. You have to find out for sure so that you get
the right equipment on each end. Almost all fiber is 62.5 / 125
micron.
> I also need to know some places to order the equipment from, as I need to
> get pricing ideas.
AT&T makes 'optical cable' and so does Siecor. Anixter is a
distributor that can give you info and prices. And the installed
cable isn't that much more than the price of installed coax.
> The engineer from Metrovision that came said it is not cost effective
> to run fiber between "campus" buildings. They said there is already a
Fiber is the only way to go for new installations between buildings
because it offers total resistance to electromagnetic interference,
and total electrical isolation.
> "shadow" cable (coax) running between the buildings and we could use
> that and get like 1.54Mbps of bandwith. I disagree and don't feel
> this is enough bandwith, especially with IPX/SPX being the bandwith
> hog it is. I also thought that costs were coming way down on fiber. Am
> I mistaken?
And the bandwidth of fiber is whatever the ends will support.
Gigabits if you've got the $$$. So it has a built-in future.
Hope this helps.
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TELECOM Digest Fri, 29 Jul 94 15:59:00 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 340
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
Ontario Council Presents First-Year Report (Joan McCalla)
Cordless Phone Security (Howard Ball)
California vs Caller-ID (Franklin Antonio)
Information Wanted About Video-Phones (Stefan Weiss)
Acoustic Modem Adaptors For Use in China (Dipesh Navsaria)
Radio and Telephony Switcher (Javier Elustondo Gonzalez-Pinto)
Current NPA Lists Wanted (Bill Kearney)
Hunt vs. Busy Call Forward (Spencer Roedder)
MS Telephony API Documentation Wanted (Suresh Krishnajois)
Cordless/Wireless Information Wanted (Daniel J. Kraemer)
Call Return / Call Answer Behaviour (Jeff Bamford)
Re: True Voice Re-Exam - Some Additional Comments (Robert Casey)
TruVoice: AT&T Stealing Stuff Again? (Eric N. Florack)
Re: Voice-Activated Call (Mark E. Daniel)
Re: Fraudulent 800 Number Sex Line Charges (Clive D.W. Feather)
Re: Fraudulent 800 Number Sex Line Charges (Brent Geery)
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From: mccallj@gov.on.ca (Joan McCalla)
Subject: Ontario Council Presents First-Year Report
Organization: Government of Ontario
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 15:35:26 GMT
Ontario Moving Full Speed Ahead on Information Highway
TORONTO -- Ontario is moving quickly along the road to an
information society, according to a report presented today to Minister
of Economic Development and Trade Frances Lankin. Full Speed Ahead,
the first year report of the Council for an Ontario Information
Infrastructure, documents the progress made by the province over the
past year.
"We're pleased that Ontario is moving aggressively to secure a
position in the information age," said Council Chair Jim Coombs. "We
believe that Ontario has now shifted gears - there is broad interest
across the province in information technology and its applications.
"In addition, Ontario is fast developing the technologies and
capabilities needed to take a leading role and pursue global
opportunities."
"Just as we need roads, schools and electrical grid systems - we
need an information infrastructure. Our investment in information
infrastructure creates the jobs of tomorrow, said Ms. Lankin. "The
Council has produced a solid foundation to meet these new challenges
and keep Ontario at the forefront of information technology. The
Ontario government is acting on its recommendations."
For example, the Province has provided funding from the Ontario
Network Infrastructure Program for projects recommended by the Council.
These include:
$1.2 million for Ontario's first environmental network which will
link and provide information to 1,300 active users from non-profit
organizations, corporations, government agencies and individuals
interested in environmental issues.
LARG*Net, a high-speed network connecting medical research and
treatment facilities and educational facilities in the London area,
will receive $2.1 million.
Funding of up to $75,000 was provided to the Wawatay Communications
Society to determine the communications needs of First Nations
communities in the Nishawbe Aski Nation.
"To date, ONIP funding has totalled $15.4 million, generating an
additional $24.8 million in non-government funding at the initial
stages of the projects," said Ms. Lankin. "I'm delighted that such a
wide range of groups and interests are taking part in building
Ontario's information highway."
In its report, the Council notes that the convergence of
telecommunications, computing and content is moving even faster than
anticipated. The Council outlines a number of future directions for
Ontario to take as it enters into the 21st century - co-ordinating
network development, encouraging sectoral partnerships, broadening
access and addressing social implications.
The Council for an Ontario Information Infrastructure was formed
on the recommendation of Ontario's Telecommunications strategy,
announced February 1993. In keeping with the Ontario government's
sector development approach, its mandate is to bring together these
partners, providing advice to the government on an overall vision for
an information society.
To obtain copies of Full Speed Ahead, please call (416) 326-9600 or
write to the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade, Technology
and Communications Division, 20th floor, 77 Bloor Street West,
Toronto.
Contact: Jim Coombs
(613) 692-1120
Martine Holmsen
Marketing & Public Affairs
Ministry of Economic Development
and Trade
(416) 325-6687
Joan McCalla
Information Infrastructure Branch
Ministry of Economic Development
and Trade
(416) 326-9627
Internet address: mccallj@gov.on.ca
------------------------------
Subject: Cordless Phone Security
From: howard.ball@execnet.com (Howard Ball)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 94 22:24:00 -0500
Organization: The Executive Network Information System
Can anyone tell me how the security codes work in cordless DIGITAL
phones?
Both analog 46/49 Mhz and digital 900 Mhz cordless phones advertise
64,000 codes. In the analog phones, I believe the scheme that is
typical is to send a multiple tone (e.g. fsk) burst that is either
suppressed from the user/voice circuit or is subaudible.
How do DIGITAL phones implement security? Same way? Does anything
affect the analog to digital conversion (i.e. we both use the same
model digital cordless, but your phone conversation makes no sense on
my unit because the security code is a "seed" to the digital
conversion)?
Thanks,
Howard Reply via Internet: howard.ball@execnet.com
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From: antonio@qualcomm.com (Franklin Antonio)
Subject: California vs Caller-ID
Date: 29 Jul 94 06:17:04 GMT
Organization: QUALCOMM, Incorporated; San Diego, CA, USA
I live in California. My friends in other states have Caller-ID, but
I do not. I have not followed the regulatory battle over Caller-ID.
I remember seeing stories on it many months ago. I figured people
would argue, and things would get settled, and caller-ID would
eventually be available to Californians.
I waited ... and nothing happened. What is the present state of
affairs? Are Californians going to get Caller-ID in my lifetime?
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I dunno. What does John Higdon think
on this topic? Perhaps he will respond with an update. PAT]
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From: stw@tnet.de (Stefan Weiss)
Subject: Information Wanted About Video-Phones
Date: 28 Jul 1994 22:13:10 +0200
Organization: TouchNET - Kommerzielle Internetsite, Muenchen
Hello,
Who has experience with video-phones? (I don't know the correct phrase
but I think you've got the idea). Who can say which models are good and
which aren't.
Thank you in advance.
Stefan Weiss - stw@tnet.de
TouchNET - Stefan Weiss und Christian Koenig GbR - info@tnet.de
Internet, Systemadministration, Schulung - Muenchen
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From: navsaria@acs4.bu.edu (Dipesh Navsaria)
Subject: Acoustic Modem Adaptors For Use in China
Date: 28 Jul 1994 17:05:45 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Hi, all. My friend will be travelling to China to spend the year
there doing research. We've made some inquiries about her using her
modem there (she has a Mac PowerBook 165), with mixed responses.
I've heard of a product that plugs into the jack on the PowerBook and
has a microphone and speaker on the other end to hook up to the
handset of a phone, kind of like the old acoustic modems they used to
have in this country. This permits you to use a modem in a country
where modular phone systems are not in common use.
Does anyone know where we can get these? Please e-mail me directly at
navsaria@bu.edu and I'll summarize if there's interest.
Thanks!
Dipesh (navsaria@bu.edu)
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From: jtaelgoj@bi.ehu.es (Javier Elustondo Gonzalez-Pinto)
Subject: Radio and Telephony Switcher
Date: 29 Jul 1994 15:10:41 GMT
Organization: UPV/EHU Facultad de Informatica (San Sebastian)
I am looking for a switcher able to handle both radio and telephony
lines. We want to design an Operation Center where the operator will
receive telephone or radio calls and will be capable to connect with
another radio or telephone line.
I have been informated that this kind of equipment exists and I want
to find information about them (firms, models, contacts, etc).
Thank you for your help,
Xabi Elustondo Gonzalez-Pinto
jtaelgoj@s835cc.bi.ehu.es
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 21:03:28 -0400
From: wkearney@access.digex.net (Bill Kearney)
Subject: Current NPA Lists Wanted
Where might I find a complete set of US phone exhanges and area code?
I've looked at lcs.mit.edu and while it's got a lot, it doesn't have
them all. Any idea where I can obtain them all? (In digital format
of course).
Thanks,
Bill
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I suggest you start by contacting Carl
Moore of the Digest readership. He has actively compiled these for
several years, as has David Leibold. Does anyone think I should put
a complete set of them in the archives? I will if there is enough
interest. I imagine Carl will be writing to you soon. PAT]
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From: roedder@netcom.com (Spencer Roedder)
Subject: Hunt vs. Busy Call Forward
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 23:09:45 GMT
I am getting a second line for my home. It will be used primarily for
outgoing modem calls, but also will be available for my teen-age
daughter and in the interim, for incoming calls.
Naturally I want to tie the new line to the existing line. As I
understand it, the canonical way would be to have my existing line
hunt to the new line. But it appears that similar behavior can be
obtained by putting Busy Call Forwarding on the existing line. Are
these two really functionally equivalent? Is there maybe a difference
in how hunting deals with a no answer situation?
If they are roughly equivalent, I simply have a time value of money
problem:
Hunt: $40 install $1.00/month
Busy Call Forward $5 install $3.50/month
-> breakeven point = 14 months.
roedder@netcom.com
------------------------------
From: sujo@netcom.com (Suresh Krishnajois)
Subject: MS Telephony API Documents Wanted
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 07:09:32 GMT
Hi,
I'm looking for a hard copy or PostScript or MS-Write format version
of _all_ the documentation (User, Ref, and Programmers guide) for the
Microsoft Telephony API (TAPI). I'd be grateful for any pointers :)
Thanks,
Suresh Krishna Jois | sujo@netcom.com | Cyberspace Gypsy.
Last Camp: Silicon Graphics Inc | Next Camp: Who cares ?
------------------------------
From: dkraemer@crl.com (Daniel J. Kraemer)
Subject: Cordless/Wireless Information Wanted
Date: 28 Jul 1994 20:36:36 GMT
Organization: CRL - St. Louis, MO
I'm attempting to gather up some information on cordless technology,
pertaining to CT-1, CT-2, CT-2 Plus, CT-3 and DECT.
Specifically looking for information on system parameters and a good
description/definition of each ...
Any information or pointers to information would be helpful... Also,
any names/addresses/phone numbers of vendors involved in wireless
access technologies which might be able to give me more info would be
great.
Dan Kraemer dkraemer@crl.com
------------------------------
From: jeffb@audiolab.uwaterloo.ca (Jeff Bamford)
Subject: Call Return / Call Answer Behaviour
Organization: Audio Research Group, University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 17:10:38 GMT
I called up a friend last night who has Call Answer (Voice
Mail from the telco) and got the "machine" after the first ring. He
must be using the phone I thought as it takes four rings when the
phone is not busy. I hung and decided that I'd call back in a couple
of minutes. I waited about five minutes and dialed *66 (Return last
outgoing call). To my surprise I got the following message from the
Telco, "We're sorry, the person you are calling is on the phone. You
will be notified by special ringing when the line is free. Please
hang up now."
It would appear that with Call Return it only checks to see if
the line is free, it doesn't follow the call forward if busy instruction.
I waited around for a few more minutes to see if the line would free up.
Didn't so I ended up calling normally. "Strange" things happen when
you start integrating all these features I guess.
Jeff Bamford jsbamford@uwaterloo.ca -- NeXT Mail welcome
Office/Lab: +1-519-885-1211 x3814 Fax: +1-519-746-8115
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From: wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey)
Subject: Re: True Voice Re-Exam - Some Additional Comments
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 04:58:03 GMT
In article <telecom14.334.17@eecs.nwu.edu> dk@crl.com (David A. Kaye)
writes:
>> In fact, the ONLY specific pieces of equipment mentioned in the
>> Bowker patent are a Yamaha DEQ-7 equalizer and a 4ESS toll switch.
> If this is the extent of it and the rest of the patent is a fairly
> intense recital of what's happening when you hook an equalizer to a
> phone switch, this looks obvious to me. Being obvious, how would it
> qualify for a patent? Those of us who have worked in broadcasting
> have long used equalizers to modify phone line signals to make them
> sound better.
The only part of this patent that might be the "invention" is doing an
equalizer on the audio signal, all in the digital domain. That is,
taking digitized phone audio, and doing digital filtering on it to
boost the lows, and it stays digital until it gets near the called
party's exchange. And do this in a phone switch.
I once got a patent on a digital hysteresis loop. Analog loops have
been around for years, but my (then) company submitted my suggestion
of doing it digital, and it issued. It doesn't really take that much
new inventive content to get a patent on something. But that patent
only covers your new contribution, not the whole thing.
The really big "set the world on fire" inventions don't happen that
often, but lots of patents get issued.
(I'm not looking to defend AT&T, if anything, I'm still angry over the
very bad management I suffered with at Bell Labs before I quit there.)
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 07:19:49 PDT
From: Eric_N._Florack.cru-mc@xerox.com
Subject: TruVoice, or ATT&T Stealing Stuff Again?
> Nevertheless, Mr. Kahn made it clear in 1969 that, if the phone
> company cooperated, one could use an equalizer to boost that
> particular range. Fortunately, Mr. Kahn is still around, and he is
> registered to practice before the patent office. You may recognize
> Mr. Kahn's name from his regular advertisement on the penultimate page
> of each month's IEEE Spectrum. He contributed a sworn declaration to
> the Reexamination Request wherein he confirms that our observations
> regarding his 1969 suggestion are accurate.
Thanks for that info, John. I had wondered what had happened to the
guy after the commission booted his DSB AM STEREO proposal ... (I happen
to think it was the best of the bunch of AMS proposals)
/E
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 94 01:55:59 EDT
From: mark@legend.akron.oh.us (Mark E Daniel)
Subject: Re: Voice-Activated Call
In article <telecom14.333.12@eecs.nwu.edu> was written:
> I've tried calling SPRINT as I remember on one of their commercials
> mentioning this feature, but since I'm not a member, I have not
> received any much good input whatsoever on the more technical aspect
> behind it and simply trying to know what exactly is out there
> regarding this.
Well, I'm a Sprint customer and I have a VOICE FONCARD as they are
called. Basically you dial the 800 number and "Voice FONCARRD Number
please" is spoken and then you say your "card" number which is some
random digit and your social security number. Then you get the "Place
Call." prompt at which time you can either key in (via Touch-tones)
the number in Standard Sprint FONCARD format or say "Call" and some
name from your previously set-up Speed- Dial List (which you get to by
saying "Speed Dial List" at the "Place Call" prompt) It has worked for
me reasonably well, although you do have to try and maintain the same
tone and speed of voice when you say your card number or you may have
to repeat your V_FONCARD number again. I don't believe that it would
work right off the bat in a crowded area from a public payphone unless
you set it up that way in the first place. I find that it likes it
most when I say my number in exactly the same way as I did on my last
call that it put through. Problems I've had with the card:
1. I had a speed-dial list of "Mom Work" which I could never get it to
call. And Supposadly Sprint says you could say "My Doctor" or
whatever for a list entry. But I've had success only with one word
entrys.
2. I once tried to place a call to "Home" and it tried to call "Paul"
instead. But 99% of the time my calls go through reletivly quickly.
I have had a fare number of times where I didn't properly say the
number and had to repeat it. And in loud areas this almost always
required me to re-speak it with rather long pauses between the system
going to look up my voice-print with a "Please Wait" prompt. (You do
get a Please Wait prompt between the saying your card number and the
"Place Call" prompt, it just takes some time in loud areas.)
3. There is no provision for speaking numbers you wish to dial that
are not on your speed-dial list so the card will not completely work
from a rotary phone (yes I can give locations that have payphones that
have not yet been updated to Tone).
Other miscellaneous information:
1. Sprint will up you to "Priority Gold" Status and charge you $5 a
month for the card if you don't bill more then $50 a month on your
Sprint Card (the charge is called "Priority Gold Service Charge".
2. There is a $1 service charge per call on the V_FONCARD whereas a
normal FONCARD call has a service charge of $.80.
3. They were supposed to call me and ask how the card was working for
me. I have yet to receive that call. I hate talking to customer
service reps. I always get intimidated. Can anyone give me a FAX
number to send a copy of this off to?
Also, with the Sprint Voice FONCARD, the internal card number used by
Sprint is different then your card number. :) Kind of wierd but a nice
security touch that they don't print your SS number on your bill.
Also calls say VOICE ACTIVATED FROM location. One thing I miss since
I went back to Sprint rather then combined billing is that my calls
don't say the number they originated from like they did when Ameritech
billed for them. Strange that Ameritech gives me the ANI and Sprint
doesn't since Sprint sends Ameritech the bill (I found this out by
talking to a Sprint rep. My Ameritch bill is printed on the first of
each month and my Sprint is on the seventh. So Sprint sent Ameritech
the bills for the calls from the eighth to the seventh of the next
month on the seventh and since Ameritech just printed a bill on the
first I don't get my LD calls billed to the next first. Ameritech
sits on the calls. It would be nice if Sprint could consolidate my
billing date with Ameritech's, because the idea of one bill isn't bad;
it's the timing that stinks.)
-- Mark E Daniel (Loving SysOp of The Legend BBS)
Inet: mark@legend.akron.oh.us medaniel@delphi.com (Direct INet)
------------------------------
Subject: Re: Fraudulent 800 Number Sex Line Charges
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 09:09:10 +0100 (BST)
From: Clive D.W. Feather <clive@sco.COM>
> Also, on page 46 of the {Hustler} 20th anniversary edition, they list
> two numbers (in these formats): 011 852 1721 1742 followed by this:
> "WARNING if you cant get through dial 01144 272 234 093!"
> Then, halfway down the page, the game is up.
> "DIAL A SEX DATE! We advertise for (women) who want to (have sex). We
> set up the sex date within one hour and we make our money on the 01144
> kickback".
> Huh. they admit it's a kickback!
Actually, I don't see where the kickback comes from. The number quoted
is a standard Bristol [*] number (and is about to change to 44 11XX
234 093, where I forget what the two XX digits are). No special rates
apply, and they don't tell you to use a specific carrier.
[*] I'll refrain from the "Bristol City" jokes.
I just tried dialing it; a breathy female voice tells you to enter a PIN
to access some "real hard core porno" stuff.
Clive D.W. Feather | Santa Cruz Operation
clive@sco.com | Croxley Centre
Phone: +44 923 816 344 | Hatters Lane, Watford
Fax: +44 923 210 352 | WD1 8YN, United Kingdom
------------------------------
Subject: Re: Fraudulent 800 Number Sex Line Charges
From: cntinuum!brent.geery@uplherc.upl.com (Brent Geery)
Date: 28 Jul 94 23:06:00 GMT
Organization: The Continuum - South Pasadena, CA - 818-441-2625
Reply-To: cntinuum!brent.geery@uplherc.upl.com (Brent Geery)
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There is one company in Florida I am
> aware of which will put you in business right away as a 900 Information
> Provider for $100 per month. They set you up with a 900 number, allow
> you to access the database of men and women who have left messages on
> the system and leave it up to you to advertise it however you want.
> They handle all the billing details and you get $2 per minute for each
> call received on 'your' 900 line, less the $100 per month fee. PAT]
Hi Pat, My first time, out of the dark here ... FYI, I have seen that
ad also and they state a $100 YEARLY fee. The company offers you a
choice of (only one): a sport line, and live horoscope line, or a
sport info line.
The deal looks like a good way for people to get into it for very
little. The only thing that I wonder, is what stops them from
claiming you got less calls than you did? This is all a matter of
trust. But other than that it looks like an up-and-up deal. They do
have a 800 number you can call to get a to-the-second accounting of
your total number of callers.
The Continuum -*- South Pasadena, California
(818) 441-2625 for 9600 and faster (818) 799-9633 for 2400 and slower
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Since you were offering a correction to
my earlier note I did not correct -- because I am not certain what you
meant -- what seems to be an error in your reply. You say 'sport, horoscope
and sport info' ... I think you meant 'dating, horoscope and sports'.
Yes, you are correct; their rate has come down to $100 per *year* plus
some amount per call. Each call costs two dollars. They provide the
information for the sports and horoscope lines, and all users of the
dating line pool their incoming messages into a central database for
use by all other operators of the 'dating' line. It is very softcore
porn ... nothing raunchy at all. You can call and get a count of the
traffic to your lines, and they pay accurately based on that count, but
of course there is no way to tell if they count *every* call or not.
Also, the calling party dials a common 900 number used by all the
information providers; he then has to punch in the 'extension number'
as quoted in your advertising material. If he punches in some other
extension number, then that guy gets the credit. You do not get a
*unique 900 number of your own*, just a unique 'extension number' you
can print on your advertising. They will help you with the advertising
however, and offer art work and copy you can use for your 'own' line.
Overall its not a bad deal; they seem to be honest. PAT]
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The Wrath of Kahn Re: TruVoice, or AT&T Stealing Stuff (John Berryhill)
Re: True Voice Re-Exam - Some Additional Comments (Dr. John Berryhill)
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Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 06:28:20 EDT
From: Michael S Baum <baum@world.std.com>
Subject: ICC Working Party on the Legal Aspects of Electronic Commerce
Please find below for your information the Summary Record of the
recent meeting of the ICC Working Party on Legal Aspects of Electronic
Commerce.
Guillermo Jimenez - ICC Secretariat - Paris
INTERNATIONAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
Dept. for International
Commercial Policy and Techniques
Doc. No. 460-10/11
21 July 1994 Original
ICC WORKING PARTY ON THE LEGAL ASPECTS OF ELECTRONIC COMMERCE
(Meeting of 29 June 1994 at ICC Headquarters, Paris)
SUMMARY OF DECISIONS
Procedure: It was agreed that electronic mail (e-mail) would be the
primary mode for dissemination of Working Party documents.
1. It was decided that the ICC would revive the "EDITERMS" project
under the task force leadership of Robert Bond (U.K. /EDI Association)
to be assisted by David Marsh (U.K./EDI Association). Prof. Jerome
Huet agreed to be responsible for the concept of an Editorial Board
which would screen/evaluate suggested EDITERMS.
2. It was decided that the ICC would investigate the most appropriate
fashion for recommending that UNCITRAL add security issues to the
ambit of the proposed UNCITRAL Rules for Electronic Commerce; this
effort will be the responsibility of a task force to be led by Ian
Walden (U.K.), and will receive input or suggestions from Renaud
Sorieul of UNCITRAL. The issues of party autonomy and system rules
for Value Added Networks will also be considered in this context, and
Mme. Anne de la Presle (EDIFRANCE) will be invited to participate in
this area.
3. Mr. Ake Nilson agreed to lead a task force focussed on the BOLERO
electronic bill of lading project; one possible project mentioned
would involve using BOLERO as a pilot for testing the EDITERMS
concept.
4. The date of the next meeting was provisionally set for Saturday 1
October 1994 in Vienna (so as to precede the next UNCITRAL meeting).
SUMMARY OF DISCUSSIONS
Introductory remarks by Chairman -- Michael Baum (U.S.), welcomed the
participants. He stated that there were many possible work projects
for the Working Party, but he did not want objectives or procedure
dictated from the chair; rather, the direction of Working Party
efforts should come from the widest possible consensus.
The first suggestion he wanted to offer for discussion was that the
group's work be based on intensive electronic mail (e-mail)
collaboration. Several members had already mentioned that resources
were scarce and that it was difficult to attend physical meetings, and
an e-mail based working procedure might reduce the need for physical
meetings, as well as considerably speeding up work efforts. It was
therefore agreed that e-mail would be considered the primary form of
communication for the Working Party's minutes, agendae, working papers
and other documents. During an interim period, some contact would be
retained with participants not yet on e-mail.
The Chairman also suggested that when physical meetings were
necessary, they should be held so as to coincide with other meetings,
such as those of UNCITRAL or UN ECE - WP4. Finally, he proposed that
if several work projects were felt to be viable by the end of the
meeting, that a project Chair should be given responsibility for each
one.
The Chairman also suggested that one area where there had not been a
lot of prior work, and therefore might be deserving of interest, was
that of security issues and the legal aspects of information security.
Recent developments marked a departure from the context of early EDI
trading, in that there was a movement to open systems and networks,
where security became a much more important issue.
Review of Prior EDI Work -- The Secretary to the Working Party,
Guillermo Jimenez, reviewed the work of the prior ICC Working Party on
EDI. He pointed out that in 1986-1987 the ICC had coordinated the
work of several international organizations to produce the UNCID
rules, the first proposed legal infrastructure for EDI trading. In
1990-1991 the Working Party on EDI produced a Policy Statement on EDI.
Among the conclusions of that policy statement were: 1) legal reform
was essential; 2) the EDIFACT message development process was
considered at that time to be inefficient; 3) the pricing policy of
VANs (Value Added Networks) was felt to be too obscure and difficult
to incorporate into budgetary calculations; 4) the tendency of large
companies to unilaterally impose EDI upon their smaller suppliers was
felt to be a cause for concern. The next product of the Working Party
was a book on EDI contracts entitled "EDI Interchange Agreements: A
Guide and Sourcebook". Thereafter, the Working Party spent several
meetings debating the possibility of developing ICC "EDIterms", legal
terms which could be incorporated into electronic messages. The
results were inconclusive, and the Working Party went into abeyance
while the Secretariat sought a new Chairman to replace the one who
resigned in 1993.
Review of Work by Commission on Computing, Telecommunications and
Information Policy (CTIP) -- The Secretary to the above Commission,
Charles Franklin, reviewed its efforts in the areas of Information
Security, Encryption and Data Protection. He noted that the ICC
Policy Statement on Encryption, approved at the beginning of June, was
quite timely in light of developments in the U.S., Holland and Sweden.
The essence of the ICC position, he stated, was that encryption policy
was an international issue and should be dealt with at an
international, multilateral level. He reported having received
unusually strong support for this statement from ICC National
Committees. He further reported that the CTIP Commission was very
close to completing an exhaustive ICC Guide to Data Protection
legislation around the world.
Future Project for Electronic Commerce Working Party --
UNCITRAL Draft EDI Rules - Renaud Sorieul (UNCITRAL) reported that
there would soon be a new draft of the above Rules. Discussion at the
last meeting had been generally very supportive of this UNCITRAL
project. As to the level of detail, he reported that it was a very
limited project.
Anne de la Presle (EDIFRANCE) stated that a missing issue in the Rules
was that of contractual relations with the VANs, and specifically the
area of "system rules". Ake Nilson (UK - EDIA), observed that the
UNCITRAL project generally raised the profile of EDI legal issues and
that it was therefore important to provide input to their processes.
The project should be limited to developing default rules, rather than
binding ones, in his opinion. David Marsh stated that there was a
high level of ignorance or lack of understanding concerning these
draft Rules. Each country should examine its own commercial law to
ascertain the obstacles to EDI practices.
Mr. Nilson noted that the issue of VANs was becoming less important
because X.400 was making it easier for parties to act as their own
VANs. Mr. Toh (Singapore) remarked that when Singapore's TradeNet
system was established, there were no system rules, and it functioned
solely with bilateral contracts. He acknowledged that this was not
very wise, and thus there were recommendations made recently to the
government that such rules be established. However, the view had been
expressed that it was difficult to decide who would establish the
rules -- there was an aversion to leaving this task to the VANs. Mr.
Toh suggested that perhaps a neutral party like the ICC could develop
such rules. Mr. Sorieul noted that this issue came up regularly at
UNCITRAL meetings, and was in each instance rejected as more suitable
for other fora. He stated that there was a widely-shared view that
the VANs should not be free to do as they please, but there was also a
contrary view that the VANS market should be free to develop.
Mr. Walden stated that he was not sure if additional rule-setting was
necessary. He pointed out that users were free to use public data
networks. Some users still transferred information on magnetic tape,
he stated, because this was cheaper. He felt that the market was
competitive enough that there was no need to impose rules. The
Secretary responded to Mr. Walden's remarks by noting that even in
somewhat competitive markets, the negotiating power of service
providers and users may be quite unbalanced.
Mr. Bond concurred, observing that even in the case of standard
software licenses it was only recently that consumers were beginning
to have the possibility of negotiating. Mr. Walden stated that rather
than establish rules, the ICC might be well advised to develop a Guide
to VANs for Consumers. The Secretary indicated that ICC Publishing
would be likely to wish to pursue such an idea.
EDITERMS Project -- The Chairman stated that several pre-meeting
discussions had indicated an extremely high level of support for
reviving the EDITERMS project. As one example, he mentioned a recent
meeting of bankers in the U.S., who had been highly receptive to the
EDITERMS concept.
The Chairman then presented a possible structure/procedure for this
project (outlined in Chairman's "Talking Points on EDITERMS",
attached). He proposed that the EDITERMS be fully accessible on the
Internet, and that any world legal group could submit proposed
EDITERMS, which would then have to be approved by an ICC EDITERMS
Editorial Board. These submissions would be digitally signed by
submitters, and then digitally time-stamped by the ICC.
The Chairman also emphasized that EDITERMS acceptability could be
enhanced if their availability were linked to diverse electronic
commerce initiatives.
Mr. Bond stated that, in light of the change in the name of the
Working Party, perhaps these should be renamed "ELCOTERMS". He
reported having heard that the U.K. banking sector was very interested
in this project. As a businessman, he stated, he would be very
concerned to make sure that a final arbiter of acceptability was
provided.
Mr. Carlos Velez-Rodriguez, ICC Secretary to the Banking Commission
and Chairman of the ICC Information Technology task force, reported
that said task force was engaged in testing an e-mail system for
general ICC use, as well as the possibility of making ICC products
available via online databases. In this context, he confirmed that
EDITERMS could be incorporated into the task force efforts at a later
date, and that the task force could support developing the
infrastructure for storing and making available EDITERMS online.
David Marsh reported on the development of standard international
commercial terms by a U.K. professor, entitled INTRATERMS, and
suggested that an international equivalent could be a sensible
starting point for the EDITERMS project. He voiced some reservations
about the legal acceptability of the concept of incorporation by
reference.
Etienne Dreyfous (France) stated that he was quite concerned by some
of the previous discussion. He noted that the beauty of Incoterms was
that they were very few and very clear. He stated that if EDITERMS
were not few, they would not be taken seriously. He also reminded
participants that official ICC statements can only issue upon
sufficient formal consultation with ICC National Committees.
Mr. Walden suggested that EDITERMS should perhaps incorporate
provisions as to security and communications, as in the concept of
"interchange profiles" developed by Thierry Piette-Coudol.
Payment Card Technologies: The Chairman stated that although public
key cryptography had primarily been implemented commercially in
software, there was also potential for usage in cryptographically
enhanced "smart" cards. To the present, he stated, very little work
had been done from a legal perspective. It might be interesting, he
suggested, to investigate how two-factor authentication would be
evaluated by legal instances.
Moreover, he suggested that the ICC might make use of its geographical
convenience, in that France was recognized as perhaps the leading
country in developing smart card technology. Mr. Walden reported that
Directorate General XV of the European Commission had recently issued
a call for tenders on legal issues relating to payment cards. The
Secretary reported that these issues might also be of interest to the
ICC Working Party on International Aspects of Payment Systems, chaired
by Richard Allen, Chief Executive of the U.K. Association for Payment
and Clearing Systems (APACS). Mr. Toh reported that in Singapore
there was a current pilot project involving a cash-card.
Conclusion: The Chairman concluded by observing that there appeared to
be strong support for the task forces enumerated in the Summary of
Decisions.
The Group thanked the Secretary, Guillermo Jimenez, for his guidance and
assistance.
FOR MORE INFORMATION CONTACT:
Peter Robinson, VP
U.S. Council for International Business
1212 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10036-1689
Tel:+1 212-354-4480
FAX:+1 212-944-0012
Net: 5969423@mcimail.com
or
Guillermo Jimenez, Head of Division
International Chamber of Commerce
38 Cours Albert 1er
75008 PARIS
Tel: 011 331 49 53 28 28
FAX: 011 33 1 49 53 28 59
Net: 5157129@mcimail.com
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From: Dr. John Berryhill <berryh@huey.udel.edu>
Subject: The Wrath of Kahn Re: TruVoice, or ATT&T Stealing Stuff Again?
Date: 31 Jul 1994 03:28:38 GMT
In article <telecom14.340.13@eecs.nwu.edu> Eric_N._Florack.cru-mc@xerox.
com writes: [Regarding Leonard R. Kahn]
> Thanks for that info, John. I had wondered what had happened to the
> guy after the commission booted his DSB AM STEREO proposal ... (I happen
> to think it was the best of the bunch of AMS proposals)
Leonard R. Kahn, president of Kahn Communications, Inc., is one of the
industry experts who submitted declarations in support of the
Reexamination Request. This is what he had to say:
IN THE UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
In re: U.S. Patent No. 5,195,132
Issued: March 16, 1993
To: Duane O. Bowker et al.
For: "Telephone Network Speech
Signal Enhancement"
DECLARATION OF LEONARD R. KAHN
I, Leonard R. Kahn, declare as follows:
1. I am the President of Kahn Communications, Inc. located at Carle
Place, New York.
2. I am the same Leonard R. Kahn who co-authored an article entitled
"Enhancement of Telephone Line Performance", which was presented at
the National Association of Broadcasters' Engineering Conference held
on March 23-26, 1969, in Washington D.C. (hereinafter the NAB article).
I am also the same Leonard R. Kahn who is listed as a sole or joint
inventor in U.S. Patents Nos. 4,217,661; 3,684,838; and 3,696,298.
3. In addition to the patents set forth in paragraph 2, I am also the
sole or joint inventor of over 80 other U.S. patents in the field of
electronics and telecommunications. My professional qualifications
and achievements are set forth in Attachment A.
4. My above-referenced NAB article was directed to the problem of
obtaining high quality speech in the standard telephone network as it
was available in 1969. The explicit intention of my 1969 article was
to discuss the desirability of restoring, in a telephonic communication
system, certain frequencies that were normally attenuated. Specifically,
I suggested in my NAB article that the frequencies between 100 Hz and
300 Hz are desirable frequencies to be restored in a telephonic
communication system. In the NAB article, I also discussed various
devices that could be employed in restoring low frequencies (those
between 100 Hz and 300 Hz) in a telephone communication network.
5. Frequencies in the range of between 100 Hz to 300 Hz frequencies
are normally attenuated in telephone systems.
6. My NAB article suggested, among other solutions, using an
equalizer in a telephone network as a device to accomplish restoration
of low frequency speech signals in telephone communication.
7. My NAB article specifically mentions the speech signal associated
with a telephone set as the signal to be selectively amplified for
more natural speech communication.
8. It was well known, in 1969, when my NAB article was published,
that equalization, as referenced in paragraph 6 above, could be
accomplished with any of a number of electronic devices known as
equalizers or filters.
9. The telephone network was, in 1969, controlled by American
Telephone and Telegraph Inc. (AT&T) in a manner which prevented using
an equalizer in the straightforward way as suggested in my NAB
article. Consequently, it was necessary for me and others to develop
complex systems for restoring low frequency signals in the telephone
network.
10. The disclosure in U.S Patent No. 5,195,132 relative to the use of
an equalizer to restore low frequency speech signals in a telephone
network merely reflects the ability of AT&T to arrange their telephone
network in accordance with the teaching of my NAB article. In other
words, AT&T has modified its network in order to take advantage of the
equalizer arrangement suggested in my NAB article.
11. I believe that the disclosure of my NAB article appears to
constitute the stated invention in U.S. Patent No. 5,195,132, which
provides truer voice transmission of low frequencies.
I declare under penalty of perjury, pursuant to the laws of
the United States of America, that the foregoing is true and correct.
ATTACHMENT A
Mr. Kahn is President of Kahn Communications, Inc, of Carle
Place, New York. He has served as consultant and/or expert witness to
Grumman, RCA, Kaiser Industries, Willys Motors, Fairchild, Airfone,
The State Court of California and U.S. Government agencies. Kahn
Communications develops and produces civil and military communications
and broadcasting products. KCI is presently researching aids to the
visually impaired. Kahn Communications was involved in the
development of the Airfone System, now GTE, Airfone.
Mr. Kahn has been awarded over 80 U.S. patents, a number of
which had foreign counterparts and has licensed such major
organizations as: RCA, GE, Raytheon, Western Union, GTE, Northrop and
Hazeltine. He has published some 25 papers on various aspects of
electrical engineering. He published an analysis proving that the
ideal diversity combiner follows the Ratio Squarer Law (Maximal Ratio
Combiner) now widely used in terrestrial and space communications.
Mr. Kahn is credited with a number of inventions in broadcast
technology, including AM Stereo transmission and reception and the
POWER-side system.
Mr. Kahn is a Fellow of the Institute of Electrical and
Electronics Engineers. He is a Professional Engineer and is also
registered to practice on patent matters before the U.S. Patent and
Trademark Office.
Mr. Kahn was formerly an Adjunct Professor of Electrical
Engineering at the Polytechnic Institute of New York and taught both
graduate and undergraduate courses. He has lectured as a guest
professor or lecturer at a number of schools and professional
societies.
Mr. Kahn was employed as research engineer at RCA
Communications and Laboratories after his discharge from the U.S.
Army. He also subsequently joined Crosby Laboratories (Mr. M.G.
Crosby was an eminent FM and general communications researcher) and
since then Mr. Kahn has served as president of Kahn Research
Laboratories and KCI.
Mr. Kahn was the 1980 recipient of the Armstrong Medal. In
1989, he was the first recipient of the Poppele Broadcast award of the
Radio Club of America. In 1992 received the IEEE Wheeler Award for
his communications work and specifically Airfone.
John Berryhill 1601 Market St., Suite 720, Philadelphia PA 19103
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From: Dr. John Berryhill <berryh@huey.udel.edu>
Subject: Re: True Voice Re-Exam - Some Additional Comments
Date: 30 Jul 1994 03:39:10 GMT
In article <telecom14.340.12@eecs.nwu.edu> wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert
Casey) writes:
> The only part of this patent that might be the "invention" is doing an
> equalizer on the audio signal, all in the digital domain. That is,
> taking digitized phone audio, and doing digital filtering on it to
> boost the lows, and it stays digital until it gets near the called
> party's exchange. And do this in a phone switch.
If you read _Digital Telephony_ by Bellamy, you'll find that performing
digital filtering in a switching system has been a known idea for a
very long time.
The way one determines what is the "invention" of a patent is to read
the claims. Each claim of a patent is supposed to precisely define
that which is considered to be novel and non-obvious, and that to
which the owner claims the exclusive rights conferred by the patent.
According to claims 24 of the Bowker patent, we are supposed to
believe that this was an invention in 1989:
24. A method for use in a telecommunications system comprising the
steps of:
establishing a connection between first and second
telephone station sets, in which each of said first and
second telephone station sets is arranged to convert
speech into audio signals and to then transmit said
audio signals over said connection, and
responding to receipt from one of said station sets said
audio signals by increasing the amplitude of those of
said received audio signals in the bass range relative
to the remaining range of said received audio signals
and then supplying said audio signals to said
connection for delivery to the other one of said
station sets.
Connect two phones. Boost the bass. That is, in essence, what is
being claimed amidst all of the verbiage.
And the boost is >relative<. In other words, ordinary high-frequency
attenuation between Alexander Graham Bell and Mr. Watson performed the
method of this patent.
John Berryhill 1601 Market St., Suite 720, Philadelphia PA 19103
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Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 12:50:23 MDT
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Cyberspace: First Steps" by Benedikt
BKCYBRSP.RVW 940506
The MIT Press
55 Hayward Street
Cambridge, MA 02142-1399
Robert V. Prior, Editor - Computer Science prior@mitvma.mit.edu
Maureen Curtin, Int'l Promo. - curtin@mit.edu
"Cyberspace: First Steps", Benedikt, 1991, 0-262-52177-6, U$18.95
benedikt@vitruvius.ar.utexas.edu
William Gibson is generally credited with the invention of the term,
"cyberspace," although I recall vague discussions of its prior use by
others within the science fiction genre. No matter: Gibson's
influence on the term holds primacy in the public mind. Thus, while
seasoned Internauts tend to use the term as a rather rough shorthand
for the access to information and communications that take place
without regard for spatial proximity, the general populace holds a
view which tightly couples the mythical Information Superhighway with
Virtual Reality. This is a pity. While virtual reality holds promise
both as a teaching tool and in studies of the human machine interface,
its products still lie in the future. Computer-mediated communications,
if one will accept some slight crudities, is here now and used by a signif-
icant minority of the computer-using public. Still, there seems to be
little point in trying to loosen the cyberspace/virtual reality
binding, and this collection of papers promotes it.
The first of the essays of the book proper, third in the table of
contents, is an anthropological study of rites and symbols as means of
communications and group identity. One is rather suspicious of a
paper which relies primarily for source material on a couple of
science fiction books. (Carelessly read, too. Tomas states that
security programs "periodically mutate into independent creative
entities" in Gibson's work. This happened once in the works cited,
although it is also alluded to in "The Difference Engine.") In
reality, there are very few culturally agreed graphical
representations of data, let alone meaning. Since we are using
science fiction as sources, I refer you to the galactic works of David
Brin, where characters experience the data of the Library as
*meaningless* graphics, and must build referents to guide themselves
therein. I also find very few "rites of passage" in the Interact
community. Tomas' view of "jacking in" and out of cyberspace as
ritual is also unconvincing: just this week, I changed network access
to my major Internet contact point and it has not made any appreciable
difference to the process, once I've logged on.
The fourth paper is an enthusiastic and subjective view of virtual
reality as utopia. This cyberspace siren song is completely
uncritical, and reminds one of the recent article which stated that to
appreciate virtual reality it was only necessary to fail to grasp
reality, itself. I suspect the author doesn't fully grasp the irony
in the fact that she starts off by comparing computer animation with
the effects of hallucinogenic drugs.
Heim's paper, fifth in the series, starts out by asking significant
questions about the nature of representations in virtual reality, and
even touches, at one point, on computer ethics. Unfortunately, again
using a single novel as a source, he confuses erotic passages in a
fictional work with substantive characteristics of VR entities.
In "Will the Real Body Please Stand Up," Stone raises some provoking
and often frightening questions about the psychological relation of
the user to the system, and of the capacity humans have for denying
reality.
Benedikt's "Proposals" propose no less than the "laws of physics" for
cyberspace, itself, They are well thought out and psychologically
sound, forgetting only one factor: his proposals severely limit the
usefulness of virtual reality for universal data representation, and
ignore the multi- logical, non-spatial relationships of data. The
next (eighth) paper essentially proposes to do the same thing, but
slightly differently, and in far less detail. Wexelblat's
contribution briefly addresses the multi-logical nature of data under
the term, "semantic spaces." It is difficult, however, to relate it
to the previous items, given the radical shift from the language of
poetry to that of mathematics.
One of the most interesting papers is a report on Habitat, Lacasfilm's
attempt at a multi-user virtual reality system. Intriguingly, given
the book's disregard of real networks in favour of VR explorations,
the essential lesson here is that the personal interactions define the
space much more thoroughly than any technical advances.
Papers eleven to thirteen give some starting ideas on technical
aspects of cyberspace. These are conceptual in nature, rather than
detailed.
Essay fourteen is a typical "day in the life" article on the use of
cyberspace in a corporate environment. Fifteen is similar, but
concentrates on recreation and education.
Although the lack of familiarity with the realities of technology
contributes to some unrealistic views and proposals, a number of the
essays prompt questions about the nature of virtual reality, and would
be good discussion starters. This would likely be useful as an
adjunct text in a course on virtual reality or user interface studies.
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1994 BKCYBRSP.RVW 940506. Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated newsgroups/mailing lists.
Vancouver ROBERTS@decus.ca
Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca
Research into rslade@cue.bc.ca
User p1@CyberStore.ca
Security Canada V7K 2G6
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Date: Sun, 31 Jul 1994 07:55:01 -0400
Subject: Re: Equipment For IVR (Phone Menus)
From: Paul A. Lee </DD.ID=JES2CAOF.UEDCM09/@SMX.sprint.com>
Organization: Woolworth Corporation
In {TELECOM Digest} Volume 14 Issue 332, Hugh Fader wrote (in part):
> I am working on a project ... that involves Interactive Voice Response...
> The system must process ~100 calls simultaneously. It will be connected to
> a mainframe computer.
> Can anybody out there give me an idea of the equipment, software, and money
> that would be required to implement one of these systems?
First of all, there are two different approaches available, each of which
has its benefits and pitfalls. You can use a large, proprietary, turnkey
system, such as those by Octel, AT&T (Conversant), Periphonics, and
several other firms. Or, you can use a system based on networked
"generic" (PC box) hardware. Either of these systems can be used with
or without a PBX in front of it, depending on traffic and use
considerations.
The PC-based systems can be bought at various levels of integration,
from a complete turnkey system, down to buying hardware components and
development software and building the hardware and software systems in
house.
The hardware components, in general terms, are:
- Telephone trunk port (if IVR sits behind a PBX) -- 1 per call port
- Telephone station port (if IVR sits behind a PBX) -- 1 per call port
- PBX switching, signal handling, and port base (if IVR sits behind a PBX)
-- sized to support the trunk and station ports required
- Analog Voice port interface -- 1 per 4 call ports
-OR-
- Digital Voice port interface -- 1 per 24 call ports (typical T1)
- IVR speech recognition channel -- 1 per 4 to 12 call ports, depending
on degree of SR processing done, or none if all DTMF input
- IVR processing platform -- 1 per 24 to 1200 call ports, depending
upon the hardware, the software, and the application complexity
- Host interface port -- 1 per 1 to 120 call ports, depending upon
the host hardware and software, and upon the IVR application
- Host computer communications port -- 1 per 1 to 120 call ports (1 for
each host interface port), depending upon host computer capabilities
The software required, in general terms:
- PBX operating software to support the trunk/station size required to
frontend the IVR system (if IVR sits behind a PBX)
- Voice port driver or I/O software (buy)
- IVR/voice processing operating system software (buy)
- IVR development system (buy, if building your own system)
- IVR application development software (buy, if building your own
application)
- IVR application software (buy or build)
- IVR speech recognition software (buy)
- IVR speech synthesis control software (buy, if using text-to-speech)
- IVR management software (buy or buy/customize)
- IVR to host communication software (buy or buy/customize)
- IVR communications drivers (buy)
- Host communications access software (buy)
- Host communications message software (buy, buy/customize, or build)
- Host application environment (buy, if not already present)
- Host application software (buy, buy/customize, build, or customize)
The costs will vary depending upon the application, the host environment, the
IVR platform chosen, and the method of implementation. To get a rough idea,
start with the following for the ~100 port range:
For a proprietary turnkey IVR system:
- IVR system platform hardware $ 20,000
- IVR system software 25,000
- IVR port hardware/software 2,400 per port
- IVR speech recognition 3,000 per channel
- IVR host communications 3,000 per port
- IVR application development 35,000
Rough estimate for 96 port system with speech $400,000
For a PC-based IVR development system, built in house:
- IVR system platform hardware $ 22,000
- IVR system software 12,000
- IVR port hardware/software 800 per port
- IVR speech recognition 1,200 per channel
- IVR host communications 1,700 per port
- Development system hardware/software 15,000
- Networking hardware/software 10,000
Rough estimate for 96 port system with speech $250,000
EXCLUDING application development costs
This list is just off the top of my head. Your results may vary.
Paul A. Lee Voice 414 357-1409
Telecommunications Analyst FAX 414 357-1450
Woolworth Corporation CompuServe 70353,566
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Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 19:11:37 EDT
From: Greg Monti <GMONTI@npr.org>
Subject: NPA Readiness for 1995
North America's Countdown to NPA Interchangeability in 1995
Interchangeable Codes Day is Sunday, January 15, 1995.
For purposes of this table, "toll calls" are calls that are
*individually itemized* on your local or long distance company phone
bill. "Message unit" or "Zone Unit Measurement" or "Extended Area"
calls are not individually itemized on bills and I don't consider them
"toll" even though they cost something over and above local service.
If the local telco doesn't force you to dial them differently, and
doesn't bill them individually, then they are treating them like local
calls and so will I.
Premium calls like 976 are mentioned if I know about them. Otherwise,
consider this table to be unreliable as to 976, etc., calls.
The "Ready for 1/95" column states whether the NPA has eliminated a
dialing plan that won't work once NPAs 249?, 281, 334, 360, 520, 562,
630, 931?, 941, 954 come on line.
Abbreviations 1+10D or 1+10 mean toll calls within the area code will
be dialed with a 1 followed by all 10 digits. Abbreviations 7D or 7
mean toll calls within the area code will be dialed with just 7 digits
and will not have a "toll alerting" indicator.
"Within an area code" means just that, and has nothing
to do with LATAs, or with the number of telephone companies
necessary to complete the call.
A LATA can be equal to, smaller than, or larger than an area code. A
LATA can be equal to, smaller than, or larger than your local calling
area.
Key:
No 1995 plan announced = no.
New plan announced, don't know if implemented = yes.
New plan announced, definitely not implemented or permitted = no.
New plan now implemented, but not mandatory; old one still permitted = yes.
New plan now implemented and is mandatory = yes.
Toll
calls
within
NPA Ready
State dialed for
NPA Prov as 1/95? Notes
201 NJ 7 yes
202 DC n/a yes there are no toll calls within 202
203 CT 1+10 yes per Digest posting per cmoore@arl.mil;
1+10D permitted 2/28/94 per Bellcore
204 MB 1+10 yes 1+10D to be mandatory 9/94
205 AL 1+10 yes 1+10D mandatory 1990
206 WA 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 1991, mandatory 1992
207 ME 7 yes 7D announced 1992
208 ID 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 1993 all US West states
209 CA 7 yes
210 TX 1+10 yes has always been 1+10D toll
212 NY n/a yes there are no toll calls within 212,
540 & 976 premium services are 7D
213 CA 7 yes has always been 7D for toll
214 TX 1+10 yes
215 PA 7 yes "no 1" campaign ran in 1992, when 1+7D
eliminated
216 OH 1+10 yes 1+10D mandatory 1/1/95
217 IL 7 yes Urbana book mentions "10D" without "1",
which won't work unless local calls within
217 are also 10D; later Bellcore source
says 7D, which I consider more reliable
218 MN 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 12/93, mandatory late 1994
219 IN 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 8/93
301 MD 1+10 yes
302 DE 1+10 yes 1+10D permitted 4/1/94, mandatory 1/7/95
303 CO 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 1993, mandatory 2/27/94
304 WV 7 yes 7D mandatory 10/1/94 per cmoore@arl.mil
local calls to outside 304 will be 1+10D
305 FL 1+10 yes 1+10D announced early 93
306 SK 1+10 yes 1+10D to be mandatory 9/94
307 WY 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 1993 all US West states
308 NE 1+10 yes 1+10D announced for all US West states 12/93
309 IL 7 yes per Bellcore source from varney@uscbu.att.com
310 CA 7 yes
312 IL n/a yes there are no toll calls within 312
313 MI 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 1993 (was to be 7D)
314 MO 1+10 yes 1+10D permissive 7/94 per Bellcore
315 NY 7 yes per Bellcore source from varney@uscbu.att.com;
PSC may ask telcos to provide option for
mandatory 1+10D at subscriber's request
316 KS 1+10 yes 1+10D permissive 7/94 per Bellcore
317 IN 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 8/93, mandatory 12/1/93
318 LA 1+10 yes 1+10D permitted 9/4/93; mandatory 4/2/94
319 IA 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 12/93 all US West states
401 RI 1+10 yes 7D announced 1992, but
1+10D announced 1/94 to become mandatory
402 NE 1+10 yes 1+10D announced for all US West states 12/93;
Lincoln Tel portion 1+10D mandatory late 94
403 AB NT YT1+10 yes 1+10D to be mandatory 9/94
404 GA 1+10 yes 1+10D implemented 1989
405 OK 1+10 yes 1+10D permissive 7/94 per Bellcore
406 MT 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 1993 all US West states
407 FL 1+10 yes 1+10D announced early 93
408 CA 7 yes inter-NPA calls were limited to 10D, without
1+; 1+10D permitted 10/11/93;
mandatory 10/10/94
409 TX 1+10 yes 1+10D permitted 7/94 per Bellcore
410 MD 1+10 yes
412 PA 7 yes not sure if 7D announced 9/93
later Bellcore source from alan.leon.varney
@att.com says 7D; comfirmed by 11/93 letter
413 MA 1+10 yes originally to be 7D; Mass DPU was thought to
have ordered 1+10D in 10/93, but J. Covert
reports no such order exists; bill stuffer
reported here confirms 1+10 is correct;
was mandatory 6/1/94 or 6/24/94
414 WI 1+10 yes
415 CA 7 yes has always been 7D toll
416 ON 1+10 yes there are no toll calls within 416 except 976,
which are dialed 1 416 976-XXXX
417 MO 1+10 yes 1+10D permitted 7/94 per Bellcore
418 QC 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 10/93
419 OH 1+10D yes 1+10D mandatory 1/1/95
501 AR 1+10 yes 1+10D permitted 7/94 per Bellcore
502 KY 1+10 yes 1+10D permitted 9/4/93; mandatory 4/2/94
503 OR 1+10 yes 1+10D announced mid 1992
504 LA 1+10 yes 1+10D permitted 9/4/93; mandatory 4/2/94
505 NM 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 1993 all US West states
506 NB 1+10 yes 1+10D to be mandatory 9/94
507 MN 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 12/93, mandatory late 1994
508 MA 1+10 yes see note under 413; mandatory 9/94
509 WA 1+10 yes 1+10D permitted 5/15/94, mandatory 9/17/94
510 CA 7 yes has always been 7D for toll
512 TX 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 1991
513 OH 1+10D yes 1+10D mandatory 1/1/95
514 QC 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 10/93
515 IA 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 1993 all US West states
516 NY 7 yes inter-NPA calls to be forced to 1+10D on
9/24/94
540 & 976 premium services are 7D
517 MI 1+10 yes 1+10D permitted 5/1/94
518 NY 7 yes per Bellcore source from varney@uscbu.att.com;
PSC may ask telcos to provide option for
mandatory 1+10D at subscriber's request
519 ON 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 10/93
601 MS 1+10 yes 1+10D mandatory 12/93
602 AZ 1+10 yes 1+10D mandatory 1990
603 NH 7 yes 7D announced 1992; but per-line blocking
to be available to subs who don't want 7D toll;
they will be forced to dial 1+10D
604 BC NT AK1+10 yes 1+10D intra-NPA toll to be mandatory 9/94;
Hyder, AK, is in 604 per previous postings here
605 SD 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 12/93
606 KY 1+10 yes 1+10D permitted 9/4/93; mandatory 4/2/94
607 NY 7 yes per Bellcore source from varney@uscbu.att.com;
PSC may ask telcos to provide option for
mandatory 1+10D at subscriber's request
608 WI 1+10 yes
609 NJ 7 yes 1+7 disallowed beginning 9/93 per bill stuffer
610 PA 1+10 yes 1+10D mandatory 12/93 (was to inherit 7D
from 215) or is it still 7D? any news?
612 MN 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 12/93, mandatory late 1994
613 ON 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 10/93
614 OH 1+10D yes 1+10D mandatory 1/1/95
615 TN 1+10 yes 1+10D posted on pay phones 9/93
616 MI 1+10 yes 1+10D permitted 5/1/94
617 MA 1+10 yes see note under 413; mandatory 9/94
618 IL 7 yes per Bellcore source from varney@uscbu.att.com
619 CA 7 yes 7D toll announced 9/93
701 ND 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 12/93
702 NV 1+10 yes 1+10D permitted 7/94 per Bellcore
703 VA 1+10 yes 1+10D mandatory 1987
704 NC 1+10 yes 1+10D mandatory 1990
705 ON 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 10/93
706 GA 1+10 yes inherited 1+10D from 404
707 CA 7 yes 7D announced 10/93
708 IL n/a yes there are no toll calls within 708
709 NF 1+10 yes 1+10D to be mandatory 9/94
712 IA 1+10 yes 1+10D announced for all US West states 12/93
713 TX 1+10 yes 1+10D mandatory 12/7/91
714 CA 7 yes 7D toll began in early 1980s
715 WI 1+10 yes
716 NY 7 yes Rochester LATA, per Telecom Digest 787;
NYNEX portion may be 1+10D;
matches Bellcore source from varney@
uscbu.att.com;
PSC may ask telcos to provide option for
mandatory 1+10D at subscriber's request
717 PA 7 yes 7D announced 11/93
718 NY n/a yes there are no toll calls within 718,
540 & 976 premium services are 7D
719 CO 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 1993, mandatory 2/27/94
801 UT 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 1993 all US West states
802 VT 1+10 yes 7D announced 1992; but
1+10D announced 2/94 to become mandatory
803 SC 1+10 yes 1+10D posted on pay phones 9/93
804 VA 1+10 yes 1+10D permitted 5/18/94; mandatory 11/16/94
805 CA 7 yes 1+7D still allowed in Pac Bell portion,
for now
806 TX 1+10 yes 1+10D permitted 7/94 per Bellcore
807 ON 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 10/93
808 HI 1+10 yes 1+10D permitted 6/19/94 per Bellcore
809 Caribb 1+10 yes 1+10D mandatory 1/9/95; one exception:
St. Vincent, Turks & Caicos = 01+10D;
810 MI 1+10 yes
812 IN 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 8/93
813 FL 1+10 yes 1+10D announced early 93
814 PA 7 yes not sure if 7D announced 9/93
later Bellcore source from alan.leon.varney@
att.com says 7D
815 IL 7 yes per Bellcore source from varney@uscbu.att.com
816 MO 1+10 yes 1+10D permitted 7/94 per Bellcore
817 TX 1+10 yes 1+10D currently mandatory
818 CA 7 yes has always been 7D toll
819 QC NT 1+10 yes 1+10D announced 10/93
901 TN 1+10 yes 1+10D posted on pay phones 9/93
902 NS PE 1+10 yes 1+10D to be mandatory 9/94
903 TX 1+10 yes has always been 1+10D toll
904 FL 1+10 yes 1+10D announced early 93
905 ON 1+10 yes has always been 1+10D toll
906 MI 1+10 yes 1+10D permitted 2/1/94 per Bellcore
907 AK 1+10 yes 1+10D permitted now; mandatory 1/1/95
908 NJ 7 yes has always been 7D toll
909 CA 7 yes
910 NC 1+10 yes
912 GA 1+10 yes 1+10D mandatory 8/92
913 KS 1+10 yes 1+10D permitted 7/94 per Bellcore
914 NY 7 yes inter-NPA calls to be forced to 1+10D on
9/24/94
540 & 976 premium services are 7D
915 TX 1+10 yes 1+10D permitted 7/94 per Bellcore
916 CA 7 yes 7D announced 9/93
917 NY n/a yes there are no toll calls within 917; however,
since all outbound calls from 917 are
cellular, there is a premium airtime charge
on most of them
918 OK 1+10 yes 1+10D permitted 7/94 per Bellcore
919 NC 1+10 yes 1+10D mandatory 1990
143 Total NANP NPAs
143 NPAs ready for 1995
0 NPAs not ready for 1995
33 ready NPAs using 7D solution so far
104 ready NPAs using 1+10D solution so far
6 ready NPAs not requiring a solution (no
intra-NPA tolls)
0 non-ready NPAs using 7D but still 10D for
inter-NPA
0 non-ready NPAs still using 1+7D
And I thought this was going to stretch all the way to January ...
Corrections are welcomed. Mail to me, I'll re-post summary. Thanks
to Ala.Leon.Varney@att.com for providing the new Bellcore updates.
Greg Monti, Tech Mgr, FISPO, Distribution Division
National Public Radio Phone: 202 414-3343
635 Massachusetts Av NW Fax: 202 414-3036
Washington, DC 20001-3753 Internet: gmonti@npr.org
------------------------------
Subject: "4A" Switches
From: cntinuum!brent.geery@uplherc.upl.com (Brent Geery)
Date: 31 Jul 94 01:10:00 GMT
Organization: The Continuum - South Pasadena, CA - 818-441-2625
Reply-To: cntinuum!brent.geery@uplherc.upl.com (Brent Geery)
Does anyone (Pat?) know in what areas Bell still uses the old 4A
switches? Anyone have a list of the exchanges that have yet to be
upgraded? Just wondering.
BRENT
The Continuum -*- South Pasadena, California
(818) 441-2625 for 9600 and faster (818) 799-9633 for 2400 and slower
------------------------------
Subject: "Post-Pay" Payphone System
From: cntinuum!brent.geery@uplherc.upl.com (Brent Geery)
Date: 31 Jul 94 01:26:00 GMT
Organization: The Continuum - South Pasadena, CA - 818-441-2625
Reply-To: cntinuum!brent.geery@uplherc.upl.com (Brent Geery)
A few years back, I used to hear about a system that was supposed to
be in use throughout Canada and the rural U.S. It was described as
the "Post-Pay" payphone system. It worked by letting you dial and
connect with your party FIRST. It then asked you to deposit your
money. You could hear the other party, but the phone cut off your
mouthpiece until you gave it your change.
That's how it was explained to me anyways ... I was wondering if these
this are still in use anywhere, and if so where? I haven't seen one
of these myself, but when I was first told about them, I was told they
were the 'latest-thing' with the independent payphone companies
(because the phone does the billing - not the company) and were
spreading all over the place.
Any help would be appreciated.
The Continuum -*- South Pasadena, California
(818) 441-2625 for 9600 and faster (818) 799-9633 for 2400 and slower
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Actually, there is nothing new about
payphones like this; they have been around for years and tend to be in
places where for whatever reason telco finds it difficult to return
coins deposited in the phone in the event of no answer/busy. Quite a
few of the early COCOTs used this method also. They found out they were
getting ripped off a lot by people using them for calls where only a
*one sided conversation* had to take place, such as recorded weather
information, etc. I mean, in those cases, who cared if the mouthpiece
opened or not. Ditto the prank callers who just wanted to make someone's
phone ring and give them dead silence when they answered, etc. Even when
used legitimatly, those phones are a nuisance since half the time the
caller does not have his coins ready for deposit and the called party
is left hanging with no one (that they can tell) on the line. As luck
would have it, I used one of those once and by the time I got my money
inserted the called party had said 'hello' twice, taken it to be a lewd
call and disconnected, just a second or two after my money went in the
box. I admit it was my own slowness in getting the money inserted. Still
it was annoying to have the called party ring off since when I hung up
to redial of course my money dropped in the box anyway. PAT]
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 1994 00:28:10 GMT
From: sthomas@mitchell.hac.com (Scott D. Thomas)
Subject: HiPPI Switch Vendors Needed!
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company
I'm on a tight schedule, and need to find out who offers a HiPPI
switch.
If you know of any sources, please email me. thanks in advance.
Scott Thomas
Hughes Information Technology Corp.
e-mail: sthomas@mitchell.hitc.com
phone: (703) 759-1382
fax: (703) 438-8430
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From: lkeeping@random.ucs.mun.ca (Lionel Keeping)
Subject: Envoy 100 Addressing
Date: 30 Jul 1994 03:28:11 GMT
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The text of this message was lost in
processing; I cannot recover it. I believe Mr. Keeping wants assistance
with Envoy 100 addressing. If anyone wants to help him, please write
him direct. PAT]
(His signature got through okay.)
Lionel Keeping Internet: lkeeping@random.ucs.mun.ca
Corner Brook, NF Packet : VO1LMK@VO1RZ.NF.CAN.NOAM
Canada "A Newfie's a Newfie wherever he goes" - Simani
------------------------------
From: bkron@netcom.com (Kronos)
Subject: Re: California vs Caller-ID
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 1994 08:09:43 GMT
antonio@qualcomm.com (Franklin Antonio) writes:
> Are Californians going to get Caller-ID in my lifetime?
Actually, California did have Caller-ID a couple of years ago and,
according to a Pacific Bell employee I spoke to around then, they
withdrew it because word got out as to how many people had line
blocking. Now you know why whenever you see an article about
Caller-ID in a newspaper, the telco employee always "won't reveal
those statistics" when referring to line block numbers.
It seems Caller-ID is one of those things everyone wants to use, but
nobody wants to participate in. Here in Washington State, the Domino's
just put in their Caller-ID and they tell me virtually all of their calls
are from blocked phones. Everyone I know has a line block -- even
those who sign up for the receiving end of the service! Kind of like
a landfill!
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I was amused a year ago when I was doing
that Digital Detective project how many people did everything they could
to avoid any sort of reference to themselves ... yet they were more than
willing -- and quite eager -- to spy on others. The fact that people who
use Caller-ID the most deny others the information on themselves is not
anything new. PAT]
------------------------------
From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter)
Subject: Re: California vs Caller-ID
Date: 31 Jul 1994 17:37:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Franklin Antonio writes about Caller-ID:
> I live in California. My friends in other states have Caller-ID, but
> I do not. I have not followed the regulatory battle over Caller-ID.
> I remember seeing stories on it many months ago. I figured people
> would argue, and things would get settled, and Caller-ID would
> eventually be available to Californians.
It seems that the PUC has taken issue with the FCC and has taken the
whole thing to court in order to get the new regulations overruled by
the court.
To me this seems like the persons who are supposed to be acting in the
interest of the people acting as if we don't know anything and or we
work for them. Or worse, acting to help the creeps that seem to pop up
once in a while in the telemarketing business and try and sell people
The Internet for $29.99 down and $29.99 for the rest of your life.
I think the PUC have overstepped its bounds and should be put out of
business since they have not done much to keep rates in anything they
regulate within reason.
The above statements have nothing to do with my employeer, so there!!!
-=- Sysop: Apple Elite II -=- an Ogg-Net Hub BBS
(909) 359-5338 12/24/96/14.4 V32/V42bis
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 94 10:04 PDT
From: lauren@vortex.com (Lauren Weinstein)
Subject: Re: California vs. Caller-ID
From: antonio@qualcomm.com (Franklin Antonio)
> I waited ... and nothing happened. What is the present state of
> affairs? Are Californians going to get Caller-ID in my lifetime?
Californians could get calling number ID right now if the telephone
companies were willing to offer it under the terms the CPUC set
forth -- free per-line blocking, education campaign, etc. Realizing
that in a state where the majority of people have non-published lines
the number who would request per-line blocking would be vast, they
decided not to offer CNID services at this time.
A recent FCC decision, which would take effect next year, would
require that all telcos send calling number data on interstate calls,
and mandates the availability of per-call blocking. It would also
preempt the states where per-line blocking was mandated, effectively
limiting blocking to per-call (there are complications regarding
intrastate vs. interstate calls, but this simpler description is
adequate for here).
The result of this FCC decision has been an unprecedented negative
reaction by state regulators. Several large states have filed
lawsuits to try block the FCC preemption of their regulations and
other states have also filed various requests for reconsideration to
the FCC and V.P. Gore. (See the PRIVACY Forum archives [via FTP] on
"ftp.vortex.com" for copies of some of these materials from the New
York PSC.)
The upshot of all this is that the ultimate status of the FCC ruling
remains to be seen, and the war between per-call and per-line blocking
(which is what this all now boils down to in many respects) has yet to
be decided.
--Lauren--
P.S. For information about the Internet PRIVACY Forum digest, please send a
message with the line:
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as the first text in the BODY of a message (subject doesn't matter) to:
privacy-request@vortex.com
--LW--
------------------------------
From: rjones@halcyon.halcyon.com (Ry Jones)
Subject: Re: Longest Time on Hold?
Date: 30 Jul 1994 21:40:12 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
> "Edison ... all representatives are busy. For normal business matters,
> please call between ?? am and ?? pm Monday through Friday. To report a
> service outage, please remain on the line. We are extremely busy at the
> present time. Calls are answered in the order received. Estimated time
> on hold will be (here the recording paused, as the computer figured out
> who all was waiting, then a dismembered voice cut in) 'greater than ten
^^^^^^^^^^^--disembodied? :)
> minutes'. Apparently between one and ten minutes they tell you in their
> estimation how many minutes it will be. Above that, they just say it
> will be 'greater than ten minutes'.
I called Informix (a database vendor) with a problem once. I was put
on hold for about 1/2 hour (on my dime, too!) hearing this voice cut
in through horrid muzak every minute stating "We expect a wait of no
longer than 5 minutes". When the tech answered, I let off some steam
at being on hold with no human intervention for so long. He said, "It
looks like you were only on hold for 3 minutes, sir". We eventually
figured out that the people who tracked the on-hold status of callers
decided a reasonable limit to hold times would be five minutes, and
all hold-time calculations were based on (time on hold) mod 5 minutes.
So every five minutes your clock reset. They pick up calls in the
order of who has been on hold longest so ... you oscilate a lot.
I want to know how that skewed the customer service response time
statistics for them. And this from a major database company ... sheesh.
rjones@halcyon.com OG+GOT;
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Chicago Transit Authority is notorious
for long holding times on their information line as is Greyhound. CTA
gets 8000-10,000 calls per 24 hours asking about busses and trains. They
are blunt in their opening recorded greeting:
"Please! Have a pencil and paper ready when we answer. Be prepared to
tell us where you are located now, where you wish to go and when you
wish to travel. Please do not hang up and redial, you will simply go
to the back of the line and wait even longer!"
Apparently -- and this is discourteous to other callers -- some people
actually call them, have them look up the information and *then* say
'well please wait while I go find something to write with and some paper'.
And there are a large number of callers who are only 'shopping'; that is
they call and one agent tells them one schedule. They don't like that one
and call again so that another agent will tell them something else. Then
they can claim 'well when I called a few minutes ago someone told me
something else' ... never mind that they probably phrased their question
differently the first time which accounts for the different answer. A
certain number are what the Transit Authority phone room calls 'hoppers'.
That is, they dial and when they get the recording they hang up and dial
back. They may do this several times, during what would have been overall
a two or three minute connection in total (holding time plus discussion
time) into half an hour .. then *they* call or write the general office
to complain that they tried to get information but 'could not get waited
on by anyone; they ignored me and left me holding ...'. Try telling these
folks that immediatly when they hang up their place in the line is going
to be seized by someone else; they have no conception of what you are
talking about. Transit Authority used to be notorious, with holding times
of ten to fifteen minutes; lately it has been much, much better. PAT]
------------------------------
From: stans@panix.com (Stan Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Longest Time on Hold?
Date: 30 Jul 1994 20:00:09 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
ARTHUR%MPA15C@MPA15AB.mv-oc.Unisys.COM wrote:
> Pat, the tribulations of being stuck on hold came up on our internal
> corporate E Mail network, and I submitted the following as part of the
> thread. It was suggested to me that this might be a weird enough
> story to be of interest to TELECOM Digest readers, perhaps sparking a
> round of one-upsmanship.
OK, here's my "Hold" story:
A few years ago, before TicketMaster owned all the ticket outlets in
the free world, tickets for Jones Beach concerts were handled by
Teletron, the phone division of Ticketron (remember them?). Jones
Beach has a series of about 20 to 30 concerts every summer, ranging
from Barry Manilow to Van Halen, and tickets for all the concerts go
on sale on the same Saturday in May every year.
I called Teletron the night before, just to verify when the phones
would open in the morning. I got the "We're closed for the evening"
recording, but I was on the speaker and busy on the computer so I
didn't hang up right away. The call, instead of hanging up, dropped
into the hold queue. I got "All representatives are busy..." and
music. This was at 10:30pm, when tickets were to go on sale at 9am
the next day. It was a local call, so I played the "What ime, and
left the phone off hook all night. I went back to the phone at 8:45
the next morning, and I was still on hold! I waited it out, and at
9:00:01, Teletron answered and was more than happy to sell me second
row tickets for my parents to see Frank Sinatra. Geez, it's too bad
they closed that phone room down! ;-)
Stan
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 94 10:41:23 EDT
From: Thomas Lapp <thomas%mvac23.uucp@louie.udel.edu>
Subject: Re: Longest Time on Hold?
> Pat, the tribulations of being stuck on hold came up on our internal
> corporate E Mail network, and I submitted the following as part of the
> thread. It was suggested to me that this might be a weird enough
> story to be of interest to TELECOM Digest readers, perhaps sparking a
> round of one-upsmanship.
If Carl Moore hasn't submitted it yet, I'll bite on this one. The
Friday edition of the Wilmington, DE {News-Journal} had a front page
article of a lady complaining that repeated calls to the local IRS
office were always busy. When she contacted an operator to see if the
line was defective, she was told that it was all quiet -- ie. on hold.
The lady claimed that that it had been on hold for about a month. The
article goes on to interview people associated with the IRS who say
that it wasn't true, and they could get through when they tried, so I
will call this an unsubstantiated record.
tom
internet : mvac23!thomas@udel.edu or thomas%mvac23@udel.edu (home)
: lapp@cdcmvx.dnet.dupont.com (work)
OSI : C=US/A=MCI/S=LAPP/D=ID=4398613
uucp : {ucbvax,mcvax,uunet}!udel!mvac23!thomas
Location : Newark, DE, USA
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Hey, try sometime calling Greyhound in
Chicago and *ever* getting them to answer the phone, period. The station
here in Skokie gets a huge overflow of phone calls from all over the
Chicago area from people trying to get bus schedule and fare information.
The explanation is always the same: I've tried for two days to reach the
national 800 number without success and can't reach the Chicago station
either. PAT]
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 94 22:29 CDT
From: kadokev@ripco.com (Kevin Kadow)
Subject: Re: Longest Time on Hold?
Re the squirrel story ...
Thanks for the laugh. I have a serious dislike for Chicago rodents in
general. Lately skunks have been the most trouble though. My house is
now on the fourth drop wire (phone line) in five years, all due to
squirrel damage. Too bad there's not enough current in there to kill
them, though the still have a short lifespan in my neighborhood ...
------------------------------
From: bkron@netcom.com (Kronos)
Subject: Re: Fraudulent 800 Number Sex Line Charges
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 1994 08:41:27 GMT
cntinuum!brent.geery@uplherc.upl.com (Brent Geery) writes:
>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There is one company in Florida I am
>> aware of which will put you in business right away as a 900 Information
>> Provider for $100.
Actually, this is a scam. The fact that these numbers are widely
advertised to the general public in infomercials is a reliable indicator
that the money-making potential for this product has long-since past.
Here's how this scam works: You "buy" a 900 number for, say, $99. Or
even free, it doesn't matter. You think that all you have to do now
is buy a new book of deposit slips. Hardly. They assign you your
number with a program attached (psychic, horrorscope, or the
euphemistic "dateline" which is nothing more than a collection of
years-old messages or bogus ads recorded by hired talent). The
agreement is usually something like this: The bureau you got the
number from "charges" you around $1/minute for running the program and
handling the accounting. Anything over that that you charge is
"yours." Let's assume you charge $2/minute for this example.
Now the bureau buys the network service usually from MCI for about
.30/minute. That means they are guaranteed .70/minute profit for
every minute you generate. However, your $1 part gets hit by the
following deductions before you get it: Chargebacks (people who don't
pay for their calls, as high as 50% for these program classifications,
have the full retail value of their calls -- $2 minute -- charged
against your proceeds), uncollectable holdback (now 10% of retail),
and others things like excise tax and the like. Now your $1 is down
to around 30 cents. This is your margin!
To make money this way, you would have to absorb advertising expenses,
which are exorbitant, and still have something left over. This is
impossible. In order to generate enough volume to make any money, you
would have to have the market to yourself. Look in any weekly
newspaper and you'll see hundreds of postage-stamp-sized ads for these
numbers placed by people who get caught up in this. What happens is
that, before long, you've wiped out your savings and you "give up" the
number, which the bureau quickly recycles to the next mark.
Some disgusting twists: Some bureaus are now requiring that you place
all advertising through their own "in-house" ad agency, meaning they
get the 20% agency commission from the publisher. And recently I
heard of a pyramid scheme where you are encouraged to get several
numbers so you can re-sell them to your friends!
There was a time when the 900-number business was like a money-printing
machine. But that all changed years ago. The only money to be made
in the business now is selling the 900 numbers, or being a telephone
company of course. Unless you can advertise for free, its a guaranteed
money loser for the starry-eyed would-be information provider. And
the only people who can advertise for free are magazine and newspaper
publishers (that's where you see those big full-page spreads for their
own 900 lines), and broadcasters (those long informercials are run by
companies either owned by the broadcaster or else in whom the broadcaster
has a financial interest).
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Generally what you say is true. I think
there is still some money to be made in 900/976 hot chat, particularly
to gay clientele in the USA. But that's about it unless you have a
really good product otherwise and very low cost lines. I think you are
almost better off to provide information via straight dialup lines and
use some sort of credit card billing and/or cash in the mail (to have
a user account set up in your name, etc. At least on those the rules
are a lot different. PAT]
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TELECOM Digest Mon, 1 Aug 94 14:19:00 CDT Volume 14 : Issue 343
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
ZMODEM: Is CR@CR Obsolete? (Stephen Satchell)
SLIPP Connection Wanted (Seth Lieberman)
Use of Call Forwarding to Avoid Toll Charges (Javad Boroumand)
800 Number Disasters (Steve Kudlak)
A Troubleshooting Puzzle (Jeff Stieglitz)
Positions Available at University in New Zealand (geoff@waikato.ac.nz)
Is This Schematic Right? (Brent Geery)
Companies That Can Install VSAT's (Doug Gurich)
Looking For Source of Repeaters (Glen Roberts)
Recent Changes in Cellphone Billing (Dave O'Shea)
Best Calling Card Rates? (Phil Calvert)
Re: Who Makes Two Line 900Mhz Cordless Phones? (Jonathan Lundell)
Re: Who Makes Two Line 900Mhz Cordless Phones? (draziw@netcom.com)
Re: Who Makes Two Line 900Mhz Cordless Phones? (ted@ics.com)
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From: ssatchell@BIX.com (ssatchell on BIX)
Subject: ZMODEM: Is CR@CR Obsolete?
Date: 1 Aug 94 16:09:26 GMT
Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation
caf@omen.COM (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) wrote elsewhere:
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Original message did not appear in
the Digest; I never recieved a copy of it. PAT]
> One of the features of ZMODEM is the protection of the sequence
> CR @ CR which was used by the recently discontinued Telenet PC
> Pursuit service.
> Perhaps it is time to remove this particular feature.
At this point I think you would be ill-advised to remove the
protection. Granted, PC Pursuit is dead ... for now. There's nothing
that says that there might be demand later.
If you are going to change the protocol, it needs to be aware of TIA
PN-2812. This project defines a means for controls in-band, and has
its own escape sequences defined. All these sequences begin with the
character decimal 25, hexidecimal 19, or Ctrl-Y. The cellular people
have already incorporated this sequence into their standards, and
TR-30.4 has an industry ballot out to make PN-2812
ANSI/TIA/EIA-617-1994.
The good news is that the content of the sequences after the Ctrl-Y
are all graphics, not control codes. This was to enhance the
possibility of the sequences being able to go through 7-bit networks
without running into uusual er unusual control sequences which might
have bad effects.
The in-band controls currently defined are: flow control, modem lead
signalling such as DTR, DSR, DCD, SQ, RI, and BREAK handling. The
intent is that any channel to a modem in which out-of-band signalling
is not supported or that time relationships are not guaranteed can
support all the known required functions, including old-style '302
escape processing.
(Tidbit: PN-2812 includes two escape-in-data sequences: one for a
single occurance of Ctrl-Y, and one for a pair of occurences of
Ctrl-Y. This was done to prevent excessive stream expansion because
of a series of Ctrl-Y characters.)
Stephen Satchell, Satchell Evaluations, Incline Village, NV
Testing modems for magazines and industry since 1984
ssatchell@bix.com, 70007.3351@compuserve.com
------------------------------
From: j-lieberman@bio-3.bsd.uchicago.edu (Seth Lieberman)
Subject: SLIPP Connection Wanted
Organization: The University of Chicago
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 16:26:32 GMT
I have a slip (or PPP) question that I was hoping someone could help
me answer. Where I attend school there is only dial in service or
direct connecitons from the lab. If I wanted to get a slip account
how would I find out if it is offered in my area: Northfield, Minn.
It is about 45 minutes south on the twin cities but a new area code:
507. I heard mention about SLIPP nad PPP and the thought of a direct
connection even if only at 14.4 made me smile :).
I also heard some mention about a leased line where it could be hooked
up from my dorm to the computer lab and that it was a dedicated 56K
line and cost about $400 a month (hopefully I'll get some people to
share my costs).
Thanks for any help you can give me. Please mail (or post).
Seth Lieberman lieberms@mathcs.carleton.edu
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From: Javad Boroumand <javad@jacks.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Use of Call Forwarding to Avoid Toll Charges
Date: 1 Aug 1994 14:46:06 GMT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Is the use of Call Forwarding to avoid long distance charges illegal?
Let's say from point X to point Y is long distance. This could either
be long distance within a Bell company "Regional Calling Area" or it
goes across LATA boundaries and involves a long distance carrier
charges.
Point Z is local to both X and Y (i.e., X-Z and Z-Y calls are local
calls). We get Call Forwarding service for phone Z and have the
number be forwarded to phone Y. Phone X calls Z, gets forwarded to Y
without any toll charges.
Here are our questions:
1. Is this illegal? There is no notice on the use of Call Forwarding
anywhere in telephone company's ads, instructions, etc. specifying where
this service should not be used.
2. Is there a technical limit in the number of times you can forward a
call? Can the above scheme be done with multiple forwarding phones in
between origination and destination (to achieve longer distances)?
3. Is Call Forwarding feature smart enough to realize that toll charges
are being avoided and so it would charge a toll based on initial origin
and final destination to the originator or the forwarding phones? Of
course if this is the case, then the question of legality is irrelevant.
Any answer (especially if it know-for-sure), idea or suggestion for
further investigation is very much appreciated. Please email me your
responds to javad@jacks.gsfc.nasa.gov
Thanks,
Javad
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It is technically illegal since anything
device or scheme which is used to avoid tolls is illegal. The apparent
contradition here lies in the *intent* behind call forwarding as it was
developed by telco. The *intent* is to make it convenient for a person to
receive their calls wherever they may happen to be. The *intent* is not
to provide alternatives to the existing toll rates. Unlike DDD versus
WATS for example, or unlike measured service versus unmeasured service
where the subscriber has the option of selecting the rate he will be billed
for his call based on his own judgment as to the most economical way of
setting up the service, call forwarding through local unmeasured hops is
not intended as an alternative to WATS or DDD type billing. Therein lies
the difference.
If it so happens, by the merest coincidence, that it is convenient for you
to receive calls intended for yourself at some alternative location and
that location happens to be, when evaluated to the original caller a toll
charge had the original caller dialed it direct, then my belief is you are
within your rights to receive calls routed in that way. I believe however
that to deliberatly structure your calling patterns in such a way as to
*always* avoid tolls using call forwarding via local hops is in violation
of the intent of the tariff, and thus the tariff itself.
Bear in mind also that the costs involved in establishing a permanently
forwarded number at some location in an effort to divert the call from
toll will to a large extent negate any 'savings' you might expect otherwise.
Forget for a moment the grey area of 'call-forwarding versus toll' and
its questionable legality as an elective 'billing option' for subscribers.
Let's assume it is legal. Unless all the interim connections are untimed,
unmeasured local calls, there will be no savings, transparent or otherwise.
It is very, very rare when any two or more local calls (or for that matter
any two or more long distance calls) when their costs are added together
are cheaper than a single call from one destination to another. If you have
to actually pay for two of the local interim connections, then those charges
are almost always greater than the 'long haul' charge had it been a single
connection from start to finish. Unless you have absolutely untimed, 'free'
local calling over a wide area, your scheme is probably doomed to fail, or
at best break even.
Now suppose you do have the *legitimate* option from telco of wide area
local unmeasured calling; not many of us do anymore, but suppose you do.
You still have some fixed expenses which have to be amortized, or justified
each month. You have the initial installation costs. You have the monthly
bill for service at the interim location, including the custom calling
feature known as call forwarding. How much will that cost in your town?
Let us say fifty dollars to install and ten dollars per month in this
example. Now you also have to include the 'cost of goodwill' of the person
upon whose premises you install the interim phone. Do you pay rent to an
answering service to hang a phone on their wall which goes ignored by them
all the time? Do you have a generous freind who lets you install it in
his house, program the forwarding then remove the instrument leaving only
the jack there? Are you certain he won't use the phone to make unwanted
calls at your expense otherwise? If all these things work in your favor --
except telco of course, telco never works in your favor -- then you have
a first year cost of maybe $200 at minimum for service, installation and
whatnot, or about $18 per month. If you 'rent' the space for your interim
phone then add a bit (!?!) more. Now do you propose that your calls from
start to finish, had they been dialed direct in a straight-forward manner
will exceed that by any worthwhile amount?
See my point? Nothing comes 'free', not even unmeasured local service
as a way to avoid tolls. At bare minimum, skin and bones cost for the
permanently forwarded interim line, you need to make a certain amount of
calls each month before it rolls in your favor. Add any interim expenses
and the rollover point gets even higher. Unless you can get the cost per
minute down to under 10-12 cents then forget it, because you can get an
800 number with prices in that range, and the legality of 800 as a way
of receiving calls is unquestioned.
Generally call-forwarding accepts one call only at a time unless you do
battle with telco to get them to change the parameters. Why? Because
of the *intention*. Call forwarding is *intended* as a convenient way to
have *a phone call* reach you wherever you may be ... not as an alternative
billing arrangement where a high volume of toll traffic is concerned. On
the other hand, 800 is rarely restricted in this way. Generally calls to
an 800 number are only limited by the capacity at the terminating end.
You have ten lines in rotary hunt, you can get ten calls.
This has come up here in the Digest several times in the past. I have
always contended that there will never be a savings in cost, but then I
am biased from living in an area where we pay five cents everytime the
phone goes off hook for an outgoing local call. Others have written to
offer rebuttal, and presented, IMO (look, no 'H'; that's because I don't
give humble opinions) very peculiar traffic patterns where indeed, maybe
under some circumstances a penny or two might be saved. Overall, forget
call-forwarding as a way to chisel Ma Bell. Go with a very cheap, discounted
800 number from one of her several competitors. PAT]
------------------------------
From: chroma@armory.com (Steve Kudlak)
Subject: 800 Number Disasters
Organization: The Armory
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 12:59:19 GMT
A friend in NYC has an 800 number. We are in the habit of conversing
at odd odd hours of the day. Recenetly a curious and irtitating
incident happened. My friend has had had this number thru SPRINT for
ages. It is easy to remember. This AM I called this number and instead
of getting my friend I got this other person. I apologized, assuming I
had missed a digit or transposed something. The second time I tried
and was much more careful and got the person again who was quite
irate. I dialed a third time to try to ascertian what number was being
pointed to. so I could have the matter corrected. I recieved a string
of expletives that would wither any right thinking person. I tried to
explain the this person that something was wrong and we should call
SPRINT and have it fixed. My friend uses his number for business, and
that it is a gross problem for him. Instead just more yelling and
screaming.
I called SPRINT and they said it was a cross-over, and they would look
into it. This didn't fix the problem at all; they just acknowleged it.
I called the AT&T repair service and lo and behold the probelm was fixed
in about five or ten minutes, about the time it took to get clothed in day
clothes and call the number again. Anyone have any idea what causes this,
and how it is easiest to get fixed? Any way to prevent the problem in the
future?
Have Fun,
Steve
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From: jest@netcom.com (Jeff Stieglitz)
Subject: A Troubleshooting Puzzle
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 1994 22:03:52 GMT
I humble myself before the altar of the telecom gods.
I'm having an unusual problem that I believe to be related to routing
within Southern Bell.
Let me explain ...
The application is rather simple -- I have 14 IBM AS/400
minicomputers across the country. Each one has an AT&T 800 number
MasterLined on rotary into four IBM 5853 modems. About 350 field
people dial in to these systems with IBM Thinkpads, and they transfer
about 50k of data at 2400 bps.
It's been working fine everywhere for two years -- except in
Atlanta.
When I started hearing complaints, I decided to check it out by
dialing into Atlanta from my home base in Los Angeles. I transferred
a few megabytes back and forth without incident. I did it many times.
I then called AT&T, and they checked out their end and had Southern
Bell "tone" the local lines. It all checked out, so I dismissed the
complaints.
Still, the users were crying.
So, I had the modems swapped, then the cabling. I also rearranged
the rotary. Even after all of this, the Atlanta locals complained
they were still receiving transmission errors, but I could get in fine
from LA.
I was also confused by the nature of their complaints. They said
they could download all day but they had problems with uploads.
Eventually, some big boss calls my big boss, and I'm on a plane
to Atlanta.
The first thing I did in hotel room is try to connect to the
Atlanta system. It errored out on uploads. I was scratching my head
because I knew I could upload fine from LA. I then tried to upload
data to the systems in Boston, Cincinnati, and Los Angeles. No
problems at all -- from my hotel room.
The next day I went to the Atlanta office and had the same
results. I could dial around the country, but I couldn't get a
successful transfer to the Atlanta system.
Even stranger was the nature of the failure. I could download
files just fine. Uploading a numeric text file failed every time.
Uploading a file full of the letter "A" worked.
So, I can upload to the Atlanta system from all over the country,
except Atlanta. And I can download data from Atlanta without incident.
But when I try to upload at the pokey rate of 2400 bps it fails, but
only for some files!
Tracing the line on the AS/400 looks OK, but I'm using a package
called PC/Support and it uses HDLC. Maybe the problem is timing
related.
And yes, I am kicking myself for not bringing a protocol analyzer.
I left mine in Chicago the week before, where it's monitoring the line
to trap an unrelated problem on a Unix box. Tracing on the AS/400
shows nothing, just that the session ends.
I hooked up a null modem and it worked just fine.
I wired my own jack from the wiring board, bypassing the AT&T
Definity PBX completely, and still had the problem. I tried going
through the PBX only -- extension to extension -- and that failed too.
That had me really confused.
At this point, I'm thinking inside wiring to the local loop, or
some kind of odd-routing that induces a subtle, cumulative
degradation. Maybe it has to do with repeated digital to analog
conversions.
So, telecom gods in netland, Why can I upload data from LA to
Atlanta without error, but can't from Atlanta to Atlanta?
Any ideas?
Jeff Stieglitz jest@netcom.com
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: One thing you obviously have no control
over and have not been able to test is the route the data takes when
it leaves your premises in Atlanta on its travels to wherever it goes.
It most likely goes from your premises in Atlanta through one CO to
a toll switch and then out around the country, but a different route
when being transported locally in Atlanta.
Are all of your complaining users in Atlanta served out of the same
CO and same trunking between themselves and where your computers are
located? Is the hotel where you stayed while testing this out in the
same CO/trunking configuration? Try from another hotel somewhere else
in Atlanta. If the problem was in the local loop then why wouldn't the
users all over the country have the same problem ... they all use the
same local loop and the same wiring in Atlanta regardless. Anything that
happens should happen to *everyone* until you reach the point where
the users go on their separate ways, which would be in a phone company
central office somewhere. What if some central office in Atlanta where
all your local Atlanta users (and yourself when you were in the hotel
testing it) are situated has problems? You might begin by finding out
the phone numbers your Atlanta users are calling from when they try to
upload. All in the same CO? Deliberatly get yourself in a different CO
(but still local in Atlanta) and try the transfer. If it works okay
then, your trouble is definitly CO-based. I'd be willing to bet you
anything its not the CO serving your office and computer there in
trouble but some other local CO in Atlanta which does business with
lots of your local users. The CO serving your office is fine; otherwise
it would screw up when talking to the toll switch. Its when your local
CO there hands the calls to some other local CO in Atlanta that the
trouble commences in that second CO. Wouldn't it be interesting to find
out that your complaining users all were on that CO as was the hotel
where you stayed? <grin> ...
Now, if you can pin that down and find what I am saying is correct about
the CO-in-common everyone there seems to hang off of, you'll want to
test at various times of day and night. Does the trouble always seem to
occur mostly at night or mostly in the day, or when? If at night when
traffic overall is less, the CO-in-common is handing the calls to the
the CO at your office (or the other way around) time and again on the
first couple of selected trunks. If the first or second trunk selected
between the CO's is bad, your lucky local users are always going to land
there, and always get messed up. Let's not worry about the local loop or
the internal wiring for now; if they were bad everyone would be affected.
Let's find out the phone numbers your users are on when they call the
computer and look for commonalities there first. PAT]
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 1994 11:10:14 +1200
From: GEOFF@waikato.ac.nz
Subject: Positions Available at University in New Zealand
Organization: University of Waikato
Lecturer/Senior Lecturer/Associate Professor in Computer
Science/Information Systems
Applications are invited for two positions in the Department of
Computer Science at the University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand.
Outstanding candidates in all areas of Computer Science/Information
Systems will be considered, but databases and networks and
communications are of particular interest. Applicants should hold an
advanced degree in Computer Science or Information Systems and must be
committed to teaching and scholarly research.
The Department of Computer Science has a complement of 28 academic and
support staff and is one of the largest departments in the University.
Its staff teach and conduct research in both Computer Science and
Information Systems areas. There are 2500 student course enrolments,
and majors are granted in five undergraduate degrees, 40 students are
currently enrolled in graduate study at the masters and doctoral level
in the Department.
As well as large networked IBM PC and Macintosh teaching laboratories,
departmental resources include SUN workstations, SGI Indy
workstations, NeXTs, hardware and communications laboratories, a
variety of Unix servers, and access to the University's VAX cluster.
Internet access to email and networks is available.
The University of Waikato is the fastest growing of the seven
universities in New Zealand and currently has over 10,000 students.
The campus and surrounding area are very attractive, bordering a
pleasant rural district on the eastern edge of Hamilton, a modern city
of 100,000. Climate is moderate ... the grass grows year round ... and
social activities include fishing, sailing, hiking, skiing, golf,
rugby, soccer, tennis and cricket. In short, the lifestyle and
climate are unbeatable!
The present salary ranges are as follows: Lecturer: $37,440 - $49,088 per
annum, Senior Lecturer: $52,000 - $67,080 per annum, Associate Professor:
$69,680 - $75,920 per annum.
Enquiries of an academic nature may be made to the Chairperson of the
Department, Dr Geoffrey Holmes, Email: geoff@waikato.ac.nz,
telephone: 64-7-838-4528, fax: 64-7- 838-4155. Information on the
method of application and conditions of appointment can be obtained
from Personnel and Management Services, The University of Waikato,
Private Bag 3105, Hamilton, New Zealand, telephone 64-7-838 4003, fax:
64-7-856-0135, Email: rgtywp4@ waikato.ac.nz (via internet). All
applications quoting reference number A94/28 received by 9 September
1994 will be considered shortly thereafter. Applications will be
accepted until the positions are filled.
Places for appointees' children may be available in the creche run by
the Campus Creche Society (Inc). Equal Opportunity is University policy.
------------------------------
Subject: Is This Schematic Right?
From: cntinuum!brent.geery@uplherc.upl.com (Brent Geery)
Date: 31 Jul 94 21:17:00 GMT
Organization: The Continuum - South Pasadena, CA - 818-441-2625
Reply-To: cntinuum!brent.geery@uplherc.upl.com (Brent Geery)
I am planning on connecting my phone line to my modem line at home
with the device below. This will allow me to call my home line #1 and
get a dial tone and call out through my modem line. This allows me to
call my local BBS, ect., even when they would not be local for the
phone that I'm calling in from. (PS: As both lines are mine, there is
nothing wrong with this.)
I found a file with a schematic of a device that looks like it will
work fine for my needs, the only thing is I can't make heads or tails
of it. Below is the schematic as it is in the file can someone
re-write it so I can understand it, and check for any errors?:
2 10K OHM Resistors
3 1.4K OHM Resistors
2 2N3904 Transistors
2 Photocells
2 Red LEDs (the more light the better)[jumbo, super brights? other colors?]
Project Box that will not let light in
red [and red stripped] and green [and green stripped] wire
1
:-PHOTOCELL--:
: :
: :BASE
: 1 TTTTT NOTE: GREEN1, GREEN2, RED1,RED2
: +LED- TRANSISTOR are the points where the
: TTTTT phone lines are connected.
: : :
: -I(-- : :COLLECTOR
RED1--< >:--: :-------:-----GREEN2
-I(-- : ----------: <---Why the hell is this like this.
: : This is also the part I am most
2 :-/+/+/-/+/+/-/+/+/-/+/+/ confused about how it's hooked
LED 10K 10K 1.4K 1.4K up. It's not clear what they
RESISTORES mean.
2
-PHOTOCELL-----------------
: :
:BASE :
TTTTT :
TRANSISTOR :
TTTTT :
: :EMITTER :
GREEN1- --------------------------RED2
: :
/+/+/
1.4K
Light from LED #1 must shine directly on the photocell #1. The one I
made needed the top of the LEDs to touch the photocell for it to work.
The same applies to PHOTOCELL #2 and LED #2. [Maybe 'span the gap'
between the LED and the photocell with amuminum foil and then wrap
both together with electrical tape.] The 1.4K resistor[s(?)] is
veriable.
The second part may be skipped if you choose. If the second part is
skipped, it will still work but if someone picks the phone up they
will hear a faint dial tone in the background.
Now that you have built it, take two green wires of the same length
strip the ends, twist two ends together and connect them to green1 and
place a peice of tape on it with "LINE #1" writing on it. Continue
the process with red1 only use red wire. Repeat with red2 and green2
but change to line #2.
Well that's it. I hope you can help me understand it! Thank you.
The Continuum -*- South Pasadena, California
(818) 441-2625 for 9600 and faster (818) 799-9633 for 2400 and slower
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Date: Mon, 1 Aug 94 08:44:03 CST
From: Doug_Gurich@fcircus.sat.tx.us (Doug Gurich)
Subject: Companies That Can Install VSAT's
We are looking for companies that have the authority and capability to
install VSAT's in various international locations. We would like to
initiate talks with such companies regarding future business
opportunities. Our firm, GlobalCom International, is a systems
integrator offering a wide variety of telecommunications services to
the commerical and government sectors.
------------------------------
From: glr@ripco.com (Glen Roberts)
Subject: Looking For a Source of Repeaters
Organization: RCI, Chicago, IL
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 15:53:39 GMT
I'm looking for a source for 24V4 repeaters.
Glen L. Roberts, glr@rci.ripco.com ph: (708) 838-4478
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From: dos@spam.wdns.wiltel.com (Dave O'Shea)
Subject: Recent Changes in Cellphone Billing
Date: 1 Aug 1994 15:12:03 GMT
Organization: WilTel
Reply-To: dave_oshea@wiltel.com
I've noticed that several of the carriers in this area (Metro NY/NJ)
seem to be eliminating daily roaming charges on a nationwide basis.
I'm happy to see this happen -- no more of the "if I push 'send', is it
gonna cost me ten bucks?" worries.
Anyone know if this change is taking place on a more widespread scale,
and whether it's just a change in marketing, or a result of some
technological change? My understanding was that many of the carriers
were actually sending each other tapes full of roamer billing
information -- if this changed, it could explain the move in billing.
------------------------------
From: calvert@eos.ncsu.edu (Phil Calvert)
Subject: Best Calling Card Rates?
Date: 31 Jul 1994 18:15:33 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
A few months ago I saw something on the net about a calling card
called the "Orange Card". It supposedly has no surchage and fairly
reasonable rates. Does it still exist? If so, how can I obtain info.
on how to get one? I'd also like to hear about any other calling
cards with no surcharge and exceptionally good rates. Please post any
info. directly to the newsgroup, as I'm sure others will also be
interested.
Thanks,
Phil Calvert calvert@eos.ncsu.edu
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I used to be a sales representative for
Orange Card, but I pretty much quit doing it and alot of the other
telecom sidelines I had. Orange isn't a bad deal, but since I got my
800 number with outdial privileges on it for 15 cents per minute I have
used that instead. That's an even better deal. PAT]
------------------------------
From: jlundell@opus.com (Jonathan Lundell)
Subject: Re: Who Makes Two Line 900Mhz Cordless Phones?
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 1994 03:02:00 GMT
In article <telecom14.339.8@eecs.nwu.edu>, howard.ball@execnet.com (Howard
Ball) wrote:
> I am seeking a list of manufacturers of TWO-LINE 900Mhz cordless
> phones.
> The only such phone I've found so far is from Hello Direct of San
> Jose, CA which offers the Tropez Platinum. (I never heard of Tropez).
> Does anyone know of any others?
I don't know directly, but I've noticed that Panasonic is pretty
active with two-line phones, answering machines, and non-900 cordless
phones.
Jonathan Lundell jlundell@opus.com
------------------------------
From: draziw@netcom.com (Ryan)
Subject: Re: Who Makes Two Line 900Mhz Cordless Phones?
Organization: Netcom
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 02:25:09 GMT
Howard Ball (howard.ball@execnet.com) wrote:
> I am seeking a list of manufacturers of TWO-LINE 900Mhz cordless
> phones.
> The only such phone I've found so far is from Hello Direct of San
> Jose, CA which offers the Tropez Platinum. (I never heard of Tropez).
Uniden makes one. It's the "Uniden 9200 Cordless Extend-A-Phone".
Ryan
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Subject: Re: Who Makes Two Line 900Mhz Cordless Phones?
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 94 11:46:27 -0400
From: ted@ics.com
> Does anyone know of any others?
Uniden EXP9200. I think it was $379 at Comp USA.
Comp USA is discontinuing their phone line (no pun intended) and had
some pretty good closeout deals on phones. Quantities were limited.
I bought a Bell South 756BK for $99 but I had to have it shipped from
Rhode Island to my home in MA. The Panasonic 3980 was $139, also a
very good price. Both of these are two line cordless, not 900MHz.
Ted
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From: chui@netcom.com (Cedric Hui)
Subject: July in China
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 07:34:52 GMT
July's telecom news from China:
* China launches key Pan-Asian Telecom Satellite
China launched the US made Apstar-1 telecommunications satellite atop
a Long March 3 rocket, broadcasting the fiery lift-off live to an
international television audience. The Apstar-1, owned by the China
-controlled APT Satellite consortium in Hong Kong, has contracts to
carry television signals for many major Western media giants, opening
up conveted access to Asia's huge and growing broadcast market. The US
Turner Broadcasting System Inc plans to beam its Cable News Network
(CNN) programming over one of Apstar's 24 transponders. Other ambitious
broadcast schemes using the satellite are also in the works at ESPN Asia,
HBO Asia, Discovery Communications, Viacom Networks, Reuters Television,
Hong Kong's TVB, Australia's Channel 9 and Taiwan's Po Hsin. And a
Chinese state concern is believed to have leased 8 transponders, possibly
to relay telephone calls or state television broadcasts. Apstar-1, a
HS 376 satellite was built by Hughes Aircraft of the United States.
* The APT satellite has raised some eyebrows.
Apstar-1's position at longitude 131 degrees east will put it nearer to
existing satellites than industry rules of thumb suggest are advisable.
While APT said it did not forsee any problems, US-Russian venture Rimsat
Ltd, whose Rimsat-1 sits at 130 degrees east, disagreed. Japanese
officials accused China of violating global rules with the launch of
a communications satellite and threated to take countermeasures. Japan
had placed its satellite Sakura 3a used by Nippon Telegraph and Telephone
at 132 degrees east eariler than China.
Satellite operators must register their position with the International
Telecommunications Union, but it is up to the governments to negotiate on
behalf of satellite operators to minimise problems. Rimsat said no such
inter-governmental coordination of the 131-degree slot had taken place.
* Satellite launch is big business
China is actively promoting its satellite launch business as a low-budget
alternative to more expensive systems in the United States and Europe.
The Apstar-1 was launched by a Long March 3 rocket from the Xichang space
centre in southwest China. The success of the Apstar-1 launch should
reassure Australia's Optus Communications, whose Optus B2 satellite will
be hurled aloft by China this fall.
* China officially launches second telecom network
China has set up a long-awited second telecommunications network, forcing
competition onto the stste's telephone monopoly in an ambitious bid to
leap-frog out of communications backwardness. China United Tele-
communications Corp, nickname Unicom in English and Liantong in Chinese,
is backed by the ministries of power industry, electronics industry and
railways, the people's Daily and other state media said. Though nominally
endorsed by the monolithic Ministry of Posts and Telecommunications,
Unicom's high profile emergence reflects Beijing's backing of the far more
aggressive strategy of the rival Ministry of Electronics Industry, which
has long bridled at the phone monopoly's plodding approach.
* Unicom's new strategy
Unicom's president, Zhao Weichen said "Unicom will compete with the
telecom ministry in a broad range of basic services with a focus on
local, long distance and mobile telephone service." All are in
acutely short supply, and failed to keep pace with China's 15 years
of whirlwind economic expansion. Unicom's strategy is to sell
services on a super-network stitched together from disjointed internal
phone networks developed by the electric power, petroleum and railway
monopolies and by the People's Liberation Army. However, Unicom
stated that the army had taken no equity in the new firm and that
integration of its network, while approved in principle, was highly
sensitive and still subject to discussion. Zhao said the firm will
spend 100 billion yuan ($12.5 billion) to push China's telephone
penetration rate one percentage point beyond the current 2.15% by 2000,
a leap of nearly 50%. He pledged that Unicom would handle 10% of
China's market for long-distance services and 30% of mobile telephone
services by 2000. Unicom has registered capital of 1 billion yuan
($115.6 million), including 80 million yuan ($9.3 million) each from
the 6 biggest state corporate investors including the powerful China
International Trust and Investment Corp, China National Chemicals
Import and Export Corp and China National Technology Import and
Export Corp.
* China's communications backwardness might be an advantage
Although China's rate of telephone penetration has tripled to 2.15%
from just 0.7% in 1988, this still amounts to only about 42 million
phones for 1.2 billion people, one of the lowest in the world.
Fearing poor communications could cripple economic growth, China
wants to have 140 million phones by 2004, an ambitious target
requiring an additional of 10 million lines a year, half again
as many as were installed in 1993. Some Chinese laders believe
the backwardness will work to the country's advantage in the future.
Minister of Telecommunications Wu Jiachuan said last month that
China was fortunate to be able to leap-frog its way onto the
high-tech information superhighway by exploiting its very backwardness.
Wu said, "compared with Western countries, China is spared the pain
of eliminating outdated equipment due to its not-so-developed
telecommunications infrastructure." China has pledged to tap at
least US$7 billion in overseas investment this decade for telecom
development. But Beijing still bans direct management or equity
ownership of services by foreigners out of national security
concerns and, some analysts say, to protect the lucrative interests
of Chinese firms.
* Hongkong - Chevalier, China Paging Link Up
Chevalier Telepoint has entered into a strategic relationship with
China Motion Ltd, the mainland's largest paging company. The move
aims to strengthen Chevalier's ties with China's rapidly emerging
mobile telephony market and cement the company's foundations while
negotiating CT2 roaming agreements in the PRC. China Motion has more
than 100,000 paging subscribers in Hong Kong, Shanghai, Shenzhen,
Guangzhou and Southern China. Its unique Registration-Free roaming
paging service enables subscribers to be paged on either side of the
border whether in Hong Kong or China. China Motion is the
representative office of the Roaming Paging Service of the Guangdong
Mobile Communication Corporation and the sole agent for the dual-
frequency pagers of the China Motion Telecom Development Company
(Shenzhen). China motion offers a variety of pagers to subscribers
including Casio, OI, NEC and Pantech. China Motion is also a dealer
of CSL cellular phones and Chevalier Telepoint CT2 handsets.
* University-Developed Desktop Conferencing
BEIGING, (Newsbytes)
The Department of Computer Science and Technology of Tsinghua
University has developed a desktop multimedia conference system.
"Development of Multimedia Conference Systems" is a sub-project of
"Research on Distributed Multimedia Information Processing and
Support Platform" which is funded by Chinese National Science
Foundation. The conference system includes the following four
sub-systems. Multimedia conference management; Electronic Multimedia
Blackboard; Multimedia file creation subsystem; Multimedia database.
The hardware requirements for this conference system are IBM or
compatible PCs with a CPU (central processing unit) of 80386 or
higher, at least four megabytes (MB) RAM, VGA display, and a sound
card working under Windows 3.1 with microphone and speakers. The
required work environment includes DOS 3.0, Windows 3.1, and Novell
3.11 or higher.
* Computerized Traffic Control
SHANGHAI,(Newsbytes)
A Chinese city traffic control system called "Shuda" has been
developed by Shanghai Jiaotong University and the Traffic Department
of Shanghai Security Bureau. Experts from the Science Committee of
Shanghai City say the system is ready to be implemented. Traffic
conditions in China are unique on some streets. Besides traffic
lights for automobiles, there are signals specially designed for
bicycles. It is said that the "Shuda" traffic control system can
handle these unique conditions in most Chinese cities. Therefore,
it is more suitable than an imported systems for the complicated
traffic controls needed in China. The "Shuda" is a 486-based system
which can control one to 80 traffic intersections. All operation
menus are in Chinese. Advanced adaptive control techniques are used
in the system. The experts of the Science Committee of Shanghai
said that this system has reached an advanced international level.
* Phone Number Portability Recommended In Hong Kong
LONDON, ENGLAND, 1994 JUL 27 (Newsbytes)
Ovum, the market research and reporting company, has recommended
that number portability be introduced to the Hong Kong telephone
network from July of 1995. The recommendation follows the completion
of a study commissioned from Ovum in Hong Kong by the Office of
Telecoms Authority (OFTA).
Number portability is the term that refers to the ability of a
phone subscriber to switch to a new service operator and still
retain their old number. It does not, Newsbytes notes, take
account of retaining numbers when moving location.
According to Ovum, the report found two main benefits that would
result from number portability: direct and indirect user benefits.
With direct user benefits, cost savings would be experienced by
users who switched services or network operators when they could
retain their original phone number. With indirect user benefits,
user benefits from number portability as the result of growth in
competition that it encourages. The need to switch phone numbers
is a major stumbling block for users thinking of changing service
operators. If number portability were available, Ovum predicts
that business would benefit from lower overall phone costs, which
should translate into lower product pricing for consumers. Ovum
concludes that call divert facilities would be appropriate in the
short term, but would represent an inefficient use of resources.
By delaying the launch until July of next year, HK network operators
could implement an intelligent network (IN) that could handle
number portability very easily.
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Date: 05 Aug 94 00:08:12 EDT
From: Brian Moura <76702.1337@compuserve.com>
Subject: San Carlos/Smart Valley
CITY OF SAN CARLOS
666 Elm Street
San Carlos, CA 94070
For More Information, Call:
Brian Moura, Asst. City Manager For Release 9:00 A.M.
Phone: (415) 802-4210 August 4, 1994
Internet: scarlos@crl.com
Web: http://www.abag.ca.gov/abag/local_gov/city/
san_carlos/schome.html
SAN CARLOS JOINS SMART VALLEY, INC.
First City in Key Joint Venture: Silicon Valley Initiative
SAN CARLOS, CA -- August 4, 1994 -- The City of San Carlos
announced today that it has joined Smart Valley Inc, a flagship
initiative affiliated with Joint Venture: Silicon Valley Network.
Smart Valley's 62 member companies and organizations have joined
together in a unique private/public partnership to facilitate an
advanced regional information infrastructure that will benefit all
sectors of the community -- education, health care, local government,
business and the home (see attached list of Smart Valley members).
San Carlos is the first City to join the Smart Valley effort.
San Carlos Mayor Tom Davids stated "The City of San Carlos has
been working hard to improve its relations with the business
community. This is evidenced by the close working relationships we
have with the San Carlos Chamber of Commerce, leaders of the business
community in San Carlos and throughout Silicon Valley."
"We were one of the first cities of our size in this area to
create an Economic Development Department and that program continues
to pay dividends in terms of improving the business climate, job
opportunites and quality of life in San Carlos. We are pleased to be
taking a further step in enhancing our business-friendly orientation
by joining the Smart Valley initiative."
Assistant City Manager Brian Moura stated that "San Carlos has
been a charter participant in the Joint Venture: Silicon Valley
effort. We attended the early meetings when the Joint Venture:
Silicon Valley program was being designed and we have been active
participants in several Joint Venture efforts including regulatory
reform for new businesses, distributing computerized information on
how to start a business and the use of new, high speed communications
technology to enhance the desirability of Silicon Valley."
Moura added: "The Smart Valley inititaive fits in nicely with
several existing San Carlos projects including using computer
technology in the school classroom, enabling businesses to get permits
using the Internet, designing a computerized mapping system and
several others. We look forward to sharing our experiences in these
areas with the Smart Valley team. We also look forward to learning
how to work with the private sector on new ways to improve
City/Business relationships. To that end, City Manager Michael
Garvey, Economic Development Director Steve Watry and City/School
Microcomputer Specialist Connie Dillard will be working with me on
this interesting and promising effort."
About Smart Valley
Smart Valley, Inc. is a non-profit organization dedicated to
rapidly advancing a regional approach to the National Information
Infrastructure (NII) in the San Francisco Bay Area. Its vision is to
help create an electronic community based on an advanced information
infrastructure and the collective ability to use it.
Smart Valley Inc. is located at 1661 Page Mill Road, Suite 289,
Palo Alto, CA 94384-1289. Tel: 415/843-2169; Fax: 415/843-2222.
Internet: info@svi.org.
Smart Valley Member Companies
(as of August 1, 1994)
3Com Corporation Lynch Enterprises
ABAG Mitsubishi Corporation
Andersen Consulting Mohr, Davidow Ventures
ARGOSystems National Semiconductor
Asset Management Navigation Technologies
AT&T Network General Corporation
ATG Cygnet Northern Telecom
Bank of America Novell
Business Comm. Nonprofit Services Nomura Research Institute
Catalyst Consulting NTT
Catapult Communications OCTuS
City of San Carlos Pacific Bell
ClariNet Communications Philips Research, Palo Alto
Cunningham Communication Price Waterhouse
Digital Pathways Raychem Corporation
Electronic Marketplace Systems Regis McKenna, Inc.
Enterprise Integration Tech. Santa Clara University
EPRI Semaphore Communications
First Person Silicon Graphics
Formtek Stanford University
Fry's Electronics Sun Microsystems
Gemini Consulting Symantec
Gray Cary Ware & Freidenrich TCI
GTE TRW Business Intelligence
Hewlett-Packard Company Ubique
IBM Storage Systems Div. (ISSC) Virtual Microsystems
InfoSeek Virtual Valley
Intel Corporation Wells Fargo & Company
Kaiser Permanente West Bay Opera
Korn/Ferry International Wilson McHenry Company
Logitech Wyse Technology
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From: phil@rochgte.fidonet.org (Phillip Dampier)
Reply-To: phil@rochgte.fidonet.org
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 00:32:16 -0500
Subject: Bell Atlantic Directory Service
Bell Atlantic Directory Service
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE FOR MORE INFORMATION CONTACT:
August 3, 1994 Mara Radis
Jean Young
301-309-9404
*****************************************************
* Bell Atlantic Announces The Rollout of InfoTravel *
* At Washington DC Marriott And Hilton Hotels *
*****************************************************
Interactive Yellow Pages Launch Follows
Successful Santa Clara Marriott Pilot
BETHESDA, Md., August 3, 1994 - Bell Atlantic Directory Services
announces the rollout of InfoTravel, an interactive multimedia version
of a targeted yellow pages service. The implementation will begin with
4000 rooms of four Marriott and two Hilton hotels in Washington, D.C.
This follows what Bob Graham, Bell Atlantic Directory Services'
president said "is a highly successful pilot" in the Santa Clara
Marriott in California. Via a hotel's TV-based video service,
InfoTravel users can access national and local advertisers, connect by
telephone to the advertiser, and generate printed maps.
"InfoTravel is proving to be a new and exciting capability for
the mobile traveler, the hotel industry and the emerging interactive
TV services industry, "said Graham. "Bell Atlantic is pleased to be
in the leadership position, particularly in our region and in the
nation's capitol."
The announcement was made in conjunction with COMCAST's On
Command Video, whose hotel-based video system is used in Marriott and
Hilton hotels nationwide, and Cap Disc, a division of Capitol
Multimedia Inc., who co-developed with Bell Atlantic the Compact
Disc-interactive (CD-i) application software and user interfaces
utilized with the On Command System. CD-i is an electronic multimedia
system that integrates high quality digital audio and video viewed on
the hotel guest room's TV.
InfoTravel will be implemented in six premier Marriott and Hilton
hotels in the Washington, D.C. area in 1995. Bell Atlantic Directory
Services is soliciting 225 national and local advertisers to
participate in the Washington, D.C. rollout.
The first InfoTravel service was implemented in mid-April in 400
rooms of the Santa Clara Marriott in California with more than 150
advertisers. Direct dialing to the advertiser and extensive mapping
capabilities are some of the distinguished features that MarketWyse, a
Cleveland, Ohio-based market research firm, found to be popular with
the Santa Clara Marriott guest users of InfoTravel. Guests in 40
percent of the rooms with InfoTravel use the service on the average of
twice a day.
InfoTravel's directory menu includes "Places To Eat," "Things to
See and Do," "Services," (medical, business and personal) and "Getting
Around." A "Travelog" feature will be added for the tourist-popular
Washington, D.C. traveler. The InfoTravel system operates by keying
in numerical codes on the On-Command remote control. Maps which
locate the advertiser's establishment are viewed on-Screen or printed
for pickup at the hotel's front desk. The user can automatically
connect to an advertiser via the user's hotel room phone, providing
virtually an immediate response for restaurant reservations or more
information on an advertiser's services or products.
"In response to market demand, Bell Atlantic Directory Services
is adding other major sites in 1994 and early 1995 for InfoTravel
implementation, "said Tom Pelletreau, director, now business
development, Bell Atlantic Directory Services. "Although the first
InfoTravel systems are CD-1 based, future systems will be configurable
to a variety of platforms."
Capitol Multimedia Inc. (NASDAQ:CDIM, CDIMW), located in
Bethesda, Md, is a leader in multimedia publishing and high-end
development if CD-based interactive software for the consumer and
professional markets. In addition to InfoTravel, its professional
division had developed and successfully marketed ShowMaster - a
revolutionary new method for delivering multimedia business
presentations. The company is also the largest independent developer
of CD-i titles in the world, including top five consumer hits Pinball
and Battleship. During 1994, Capitol is expanding into development
and distribution of SEGA CD and CD-ROM software.
On Command Video, majority owned by COMSAT Video Enterprises,
Inc., is a market leader in hotel video-on-demand and interactive
information technology, and operates the largest hotel video-on-demand
system in the world, with 350,000 rooms installed or under contract.
COMSAT Video Enterprises (CVE) is a subsidiary of COMSAT Corporation
(NYSE:CQ), an international communications, information and
entertainment-distribution services company headquartered in Bethesda,
Md.
InfoTravel will be offered by Bell Atlantic Electronic
Publishing, Inc., part of the directory services group of the Bell
Atlantic Corporation. Bell Atlantic Corporation, publishes over 240
telephone directories in the mid-Atlantic region. Bell Atlantic
Corporation, based in Philadelphia. is the parent of companies which
provide a full array of local exchange telecommunications services in
New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia,
and Washington D.C. The corporation is at the forefront of developing
a variety of new products, including video, entertainment and
information services.
Bell Atlantic also is the parent of one of the nation's largest
cellular carriers and has an ownership position in cellular properties
internationally. In addition, Bell Atlantic owns an interest in
Telecom Corporation of New Zealand and is the parent of companies that
provide financial services in the U.S. and business systems services
for customer-based information technology throughout the U.S. and
internationally.
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From: phil@rochgte.fidonet.org (Phillip Dampier)
Reply-To: phil@rochgte.fidonet.org
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 00:11:15 -0500
Subject: Sammons/Bell Atlantic End Talks
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT:
August 2, 1994 James W. Carrigan
Bell Atlantic
201 649-2279
DeAnna Kriege
Sammons
214 919-5752
SAMMONS AND BELL ATLANTIC END
VIDEO DIAL TONE AGREEMENT
Newark, N.J.-- Bell Atlantic and Dallas-based Sammons Communications,
Inc., today announced that they have terminated the contract for video
dialtone (VDT) services that would have made Sammons the first
information provider to use Bell Atlantic's VDT network in three
Morris County, NJ, municipalities.
In making the announcement, Bell Atlantic stressed that it still plans
to offer VDT in Madison, Chatham and Florham Park (N.J.) and that it
will begin construction of the network upon obtaining the necessary
approvals from the Federal Communications Commission.
"Sammons will proceed with its cable system, fiber/coax rebuild within
the three affected communities with the intention of activating
newly-constructed plant prior to year-end," said Ed Comstock, Sammon's
vice president of business development.
"We are disappointed that Sammons will not be using the video dial
tone network in Morris County as we had planned, and we understand
that Sammons had to make a business decision to meet its state
regulatory and customer commitments to complete the system rebuild
within the specific period of time," said Edward G. Young, Bell
Atlantic vice president and associate general counsel.
"Bell Atlantic is talking with other information providers that have
expressed interest in using the advanced, interactive network. While
we cannot name them today, we can say that we've had discussions with
a number of potential providers," said Young.
"The door is open for all information providers, including Sammons
when the timing is better, to use our video dial tone platform to
deliver their services," Young added.
Comstock agreed, saying, "We're interested in further discussion on the
use of Bell facilities when they become available."
In July (1994), Bell Atlantic received FCC approval to construct the
nation's first large-scale VDT network serving about 38,000 homes in
Dover Township, Ocean County, NJ.
In June (1994), Bell Atlantic filed for FCC approval to provide VDT in
six metropolitan areas throughout its territory, including 77 New
Jersey municipalities, within three years.
Video dial tone networks are "common carrier" networks that let
customers connect to video information providers or high-speed data
networks in the same way today's telephone dial tone allows customers
to make audio connections.
Bell Atlantic Corporation, based in Philadelphia, is the parent of
companies that provide a full array of local exchange
telecommunications services in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware,
Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia and Washington, D.C. The corporation
is at the forefront of developing a variety of new products, including
video, entertainment and information services.
Bell Atlantic also is the parent of one of the nation's largest
cellular carriers and has an ownership position in cellular properties
internationally. In addition, Bell Atlantic owns an interest in
Telecom Corporation of New Zealand and is the parent of companies that
provide business systems services for customer-based information
technology throughout the U.S. and internationally.
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Date: Sat, 06 Aug 94 23:09:00 -0500
From: dave.leibold@superctl.tor250.org (Dave Leibold)
Subject: Northern Telecom 2nd quarter results
Reply-To: dave.leibold@superctl.tor250.org
[from Northern Telecom via CNW]
NORTHERN TELECOM REPORTS SECOND QUARTER RESULTS
TORONTO, July 26 /CNW/ - Northern Telecom today reported results for
the second quarter 1994.
Revenues were $US 2.12 billion in the second quarter of 1994, up 14
percent compared with $US 1.87 billion reported for the same period in
1993. Net earnings applicable to common shares were $US 37 million, or
$US .15 per share, compared with a loss of $US 1.03 billion or $US
4.13 per share. In 1993, excluding one time restructuring and other
charges of $US 940 million after tax or $US 3.77 per share, net loss
from operations was $US 88 million or $US .36 per share.
Order input was $US 1.93 billion for the quarter compared with $US
2.18 billion last year reflecting lower orders in Canada and the
impact of the business disposals somewhat offset by year over year
gains in the United States and international markets. Orders on hand
at June 30, 1994 remain strong at $US 3.76 billion.
For the first half of 1994 Northern Telecom recorded revenues of $US
4.12 billion, an increase of eight percent over the $US 3.81 billion for
the first half of 1993. Order input for the first half was $US 3.67 billion
compared with $US 4.01 billion in 1993. Net earnings applicable to common
shares for the first six months were $US 124 million, or $US .50 per share,
compared with a net loss of $US 954 million or $US 3.83 per share in 1993.
Excluding the one time restructuring and other charges of $US 940 million
after tax, or $US 3.77 per share the net loss was $US 14 million after tax
or $US .06 per share.
Commenting on the results, Jean C. Monty, President and Chief Executive
Officer of Northern Telecom said: "We are pleased with the second quarter
and first half performance as we progress through this year of transition.
The gain in revenue is indicative of our strengthening product portfolio and
expanding global position. In addition, our cost reduction initiatives remain
on track and with proceeds from the sale of non core assets, the business has
an improved financial position."
Geographic revenue for the quarter showed strong gains in the United States
and international markets. United States revenues improved sharply
principally on the strength of central office switching and transmission.
Asia Pacific and the Caribbean and Latin America markets recorded significant
revenue growth across most product lines. Revenues from Canada continued
significantly below last year reflecting the ongoing impact of lower capital
spending by the telephone operating companies.
Product line revenues for the quarter showed advances over the prior
year in all core business segments, except cable and outside plant
which was much lower due to the impact of the sale of STC Submarine
Systems in the first quarter. Substantial gains in central office
switching, were led by the United States, Asia Pacific and the
Caribbean and Latin American markets. Transmission revenues continue
to post significant gains over last year reflecting strength in the
synchronous product portfolio and wireless radio products. Multimedia
Communications Systems also enjoyed double digit revenue growth.
Selling, general and administrative expenses were $US 376 million, or
17.7 percent of revenue in the quarter as compared with $US 373
million, or 20.0 percent of revenue in 1993. For the first half of
1994, such expenses increased to $US 765 million from $US 737 million
and decreased as a percentage of revenue to 18.6 percent from 19.3
percent. As a result of the restructuring plan Northern Telecom has
invested in international sales and marketing activities while
containing expense levels year over year.
Research and development expenses totaled $US 274 million, or 12.9 percent
of revenues, for the second quarter compared with $US 283 million, or 15.1
percent, for the second quarter last year. For the first half of 1994,
research and development expenses decreased to $US 521 million from $US 539
million for 1993 or 12.6 percent of revenue compared with 14.1 percent.
Additional spending relating to the modularization of central office
switching architecture was incurred as planned and charged against the
software provision taken in 1993.
Mr. Monty added: "The second quarter improvements are indicative of the
value of our investments in the development of international markets and
new products. The introduction of our comprehensive portfolio of world
class wireless systems is just one example. Entering the second half, we
continue to anticipate improvement as compared with the same period last
year due to the on-going benefits of our cost reduction activities and the
expected cyclical spending patterns of our major customers. To complete our
transition to traditional levels of profitability in the 1995 timeframe, we
will continue to maintain our focus on cost improvement, product evolution
and market development."
Northern Telecom's common shares are listed on the New York, Toronto,
Montreal, Vancouver, London, and Tokyo stock exchanges.
NORTHERN TELECOM LIMITED
Second Quarter Consolidated Results (unaudited)
[detailed results omitted for brevity; available on original news release]
For further information: Doug Patterson/Gary Brandt, Northern Telecom
Limited (905) 566-3178/(905) 566-3098.
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Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 15:59:44 EDT
From: Greg Monti <GMONTI@npr.org>
Subject: Software Product Review: NPA
Software Product Review: NPA
from The PC Consultant, PO Box 42086, Houston, TX 77242-2086
+1 713 826-2629
single license fee: $25.00
by Greg Monti
"NPA" is a shareware database with lookup tools. It's a
character-based, DOS application that allows you to find:
-- city and state or province given the area code (NPA) and
prefix (NXX);
-- the area code(s) and prefix(es) which serve a given city
and state or province;
-- all cities and state(s) or province(s) which use an NPA;
-- the US ZIP (but not Canadian postal) codes which
predominate the land area served by a prefix;
-- the county in which the city is located, with its
population;
-- the latitude and logitude (in terrestrial coordinates,
not V&H coordinates) of the central office serving that
prefix;
-- a great circle mileage feature that lets you input a
second area and prefix (or a second city and state) which
calculates and displays the air mileage between there and
the first city.
This program is best run from a hard disk drive. 2.5 MegaBytes of
free disk space are required for file decompression and setup. About
1.8 Megs are used for executables and databases thereafter.
INPUT SCREEN:
NPA - <04Feb94> (Numbering Plan Area) (C) 1991-94 PC Consultant
Licensed to: Greg Monti
1st 2nd (great circle mileage)
State/Province/NPA: 619
City/County/NXX/Zip:
Min/Max # NXX: 1 /
^Scan City/ +---Show---+ +-------Show-------+ Screen ^Output
County Name ^County ^Pop ^NXX ^Zip ^Lat/Long ^Display to
Yes Yes Yes Yes No No Scroll Screen
F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 Esc
Help PrvSpec NxtSpec ClrSpec ClrFld SavOpts Cancel
OUTPUT SCREEN:
NPA - <04Feb94> (Numbering Plan Area) (C) 1991-94 PC Consultant
Licensed to: Greg Monti
(Hits: 105) TopLine: 1 of 129
NPA City/County/Pop x1k NXX (Esc) Quits ,PgDn
--- ------------------- --------------------------------------------------
CA:California
619 Adelanto/San Bernardino/1418 246 388
Alpine/San Diego/2498 445 659
Apple Valley/San Bernardino/1418 240 242 247 946
Baker/San Bernardino/1418 733 852
Barstow/San Bernardino/1418 252 253 255 256 577
Benton/Mono/9 933
Big Pine/Inyo/18 938
Bishop/Inyo/18 387 872 873 937
Blythe/Riverside/1170 921 922
Bonita/San Diego/2498 472 479
Boron/Kern/543 762 769
Borrego Springs/San Diego/2498 394 767
Brawley/Imperial/109 344 351
Bridgeport/Mono/9 932
Calexico/Imperial/109 357 768
California City/Kern/543 373
Calipatria/Imperial/109 348 354
Camp Pendleton/San Diego/2498 430
Campo/San Diego/2498 478
For this report, I had the county name and population switches on, but
the Zip code switch off. I also instructed "NPA" to display the
small, one-prefix towns.
Advantages:
A1. States and provinces may be looked up by 2-letter code or by a
fraction of (or the whole) the name.
A2. If you input only a state or province, all cities, NPAs and
prefixes will be displayed consistent with default filter criteria.
When you call up a whole NPA, the default report will show only those
cities with at least 5 prefixes. If you call up a whole state, the
output displayed will be limited to cities with 10 or more NXXs.
However, you can set the output to display cities with as few as one
prefix. The reason for this is obvious: If you input California and
nothing else, the default (ten-prefix) display will be 343 lines long,
showing 114 cities. If you set the minimum number of prefixes per
city to 1, the CA display will be 1009 lines long, showing 825 cities.
A3. Cities are listed by area code, then alphabetically, then
prefixes are listed numerically.
A4. The prefix you enter, if any, shows in a contrasting color in the
output screen.
A5. You can search with just a state and a prefix. "NPA" will find
all the area codes and city names. For example, if you enter Illinois
and prefix 939, it reports all 939 prefixes in that state. There are
four: 312-939 in Chicago, 618-939 in Waterloo, 708-939 in Northbrook,
and 815-939 in Kankakee.
A6. You can set the application for "left" or "any substring" matches
of city and county names.
A7. Screen may be set to scroll forward and back, or pause after each
page, or nonstop.
A8. Output may be sent to screen, printer or file. You can set the
width of the report (from 79 to 255 columns for printer; from 79 to
999 columns for file).
A9. You can move forward and backward through a history of the 20
most recent search criteria.
A10. The escape key works any time, even quitting out of a long
search.
A11. "NPA" can be executed from a DOS prompt by specifying the search
criteria in the command syntax or from an input screen.
Disadvantages:
D1. As with any work of this magnitude (and this fluid source
material) information is sometimes incomplete. Sometimes, a new
prefix not yet in use will show. Sometimes, a prefix known to be in
use will be absent, or in the wrong city. There were few such errors
with local numbers I know.
D2. Multiple prefixes, serving different rate areas, are treated
inconsistently. In Virginia, prefixes from the Dale City and Occoquan
central offices, which serve four rate areas (Dale City, Occoquan,
Lorton and Lorton Metro) are listed as being in a single city:
Woodbridge, which is the postal name for the unincorporated area. In
New York state, Bayville and Oyster Bay, different rate areas, are
served out of a single CO in Oyster Bay, but are listed separately.
D3. CO names themselves are not displayed and prefixes are not
grouped by CO. However, by turning on the Latitude and Longitude
coordinates and looking for prefixes with same Lat & Long, you can
tell which are in the same office.
D4. Zip codes shown are "best guesses", as the documentation puts it,
probably the zip of the CO or of a nearby business district. A CO can
cover many zips.
D5. You cannot search for partial NXXs. You can't enter 39x or 39*
and expect to find 391, 396 and 399. The same input field is used for
Zip codes (where partials are allowed) and NXXs. 39* will give you
all the known Zips from 39000 through 39999 inclusive.
Curiosities:
C1. In California's 213 and 310 NPAs, there is a city called "Belle
Cellu" in each code, with a few NXXs between them. What are these?
Cellular NXXs that are not assigned to a city name? Ironically, there
is no company called "Bell Cellular" or "Pac Bell Cellular" any more.
It was spun off and is called "AirTouch".
C2. The much celebrated Hyder, AK, is not listed in either 604 or 907
areas.
C3. The February, 1994, data show the 416/905 split in Ontario still
in progress. Brampton, for example, is listed twice, with the same
prefixes, once in each area code. Presumably, in a later version, the
416 listing will disappear.
C4. "NPA" even lists the tiny towns in Northwest Territories and
Yukon, such as (with the Latitude & Longitude switch on):
Snowdrift 370/62.40x110.73
Spence Bay 561/69.53x093.54
Tuktoyaktuk 977/69.43x133.02
Tungsten 777/61.97x128.22
Wrigley 581/63.27x123.62
Yellowknife 669/62.45x114.37
873/62.45x114.37 920/62.45x114.37
604 Cassiar 778/59.28x129.79
Dease Lake 771/58.43x130.02
Fort Nelson 774/58.80x122.69
Iskut 234/57.83x129.97
Lower Post 779/60.06x128.69
Muncho Lake 776/58.91x125.74
Telegraph Creek 235/57.89x131.15
Toad River 232/58.84x125.21
Wonowon 772/56.73x121.79
819 Arctic Bay 439/73.03x085.19
Arviat 857/61.11x094.07
Baker Lake 793/64.31x096.03
Broughton Island 927/67.12x065.17
Capdorst 897/64.23x076.55
C5. Area 809 is listed, but only for Puerto Rico and the USVI. For
some reason, asking for everything in 809 just gives you Puerto Rico.
If you ask for VI specifically, it will list it. Asking for
everything in 403 does show both Alberta and Yukon. Asking for 604
does show both BC and NW in one pass.
C6. Fishers Island, NY (516-788) is listed in Connecticut as 203-788
and is missing from 516 and from NY State.
Summary: On the whole, the algorithm and database sources in "NPA"
appear useful and accurate. Those Telecom Digesters who have always
wanted to associate Zip codes with NXXs will have a field day. For
marketing types, county populations and Zips can give you an idea
where to look when loading prefixes into war dialers.
I have no association with The PC Consultant, other than as a
satisfied customer.
Greg Monti, Tech Mgr, FISPO, Distribution Division
National Public Radio Phone: +1 202 414-3343
635 Massachusetts Av NW Fax: +1 202 414-3036
Washington, DC 20001-3753 Internet: gmonti@npr.org
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From: rad@170.38.8.1 (Richard Dale)
Subject: Mobile Phones in Malaysia and Australia
Date: 7 Aug 1994 10:42:23 +0800
Organization: Petroliam Nasional Berhad (PETRONAS)
Hello all,
I'm an Australian resident looking to take a mobile phone to Malaysia
to use in both locations. I would like to know if the mobile phones
are compatible between both countries.
Here's some background data:
Australia
Has both GSM & Analogue services (analogue is the most popular by
about 10:1) Does NOT allow the importation of mobile phones - ie you
must buy them in Australia.
Malaysia
Has several mobile phone services:
450Mhz - long distance coverage
800Mhz - Klang valley coverage (i.e. Kuala Lumpur area)
900Mhz - More coverage than 800 but not as much as 450Mhz.
Handsets
I have seen the Motorola Microtac II available in both Australia and
Malaysia (and am interested in this model). Can I take one from
Australia and, after registering with the appropriate carrier, use it
in Malaysia?
Thanks in advance,
Richard A. Dale, Integrated Systems Australia (for Petronet Phase II)
Petronas, Telecommunications & Networking, IRM Division, 27th Floor,
Menara Dayabumi, Jalan Sultan Hishamuddin, 50500 KUALA LUMPUR
Voice@Malaysia: +60-3-275-4277 | Voice@Australia: +61-9-333-4444
Fax@Malaysia: +60-3-293-3828 | Fax@Australia: +61-9-333-4499
EMail@MY: rad@tcn.petronas.my | EMail@AU: rad@osi.curtin.edu.au
------------------------------
From: gordon@sneaky.lonestar.org (Gordon Burditt)
Subject: Re: Use of Call Forwarding to Avoid Toll Charges
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organi[sz]ation
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 03:59:36 GMT
TELECOM Digest Editor noted:
> Bear in mind also that the costs involved in establishing a permanently
> forwarded number at some location in an effort to divert the call from
> toll will to a large extent negate any 'savings' you might expect otherwise.
> Forget for a moment the grey area of 'call-forwarding versus toll' and
> its questionable legality as an elective 'billing option' for subscribers.
> Let's assume it is legal. Unless all the interim connections are untimed,
> unmeasured local calls, there will be no savings, transparent or otherwise.
Are you sure about this? Some intrastate rates, last time I checked,
which was a few years back, seem bad enough that you'd be better off
chaining three interstate calls going through, say, California and New
York. Since you'd only need to chain two calls, you could make
headway against the fixed overhead, but you'd still have to do a LOT
of calling to get any savings overall. And an 800 number would
probably beat both alternatives unless the 800 intrastate rate is much
higher than the 800 interstate rate.
Gordon L. Burditt sneaky.lonestar.org!gordon
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 23:13:29 EDT
From: Paul Robinson <PAUL@tdr.com>
Reply-To: Paul Robinson <PAUL@tdr.com>
Subject: Re: Use of Call Forwarding to Avoid Toll Charges
Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA
Javad Boroumand <javad@jacks.gsfc.nasa.gov>, writes the following:
> Is the use of Call Forwarding to avoid long distance charges illegal?
> Let's say from point X to point Y is long distance. This could either
> be long distance within a Bell company "Regional Calling Area" or it
> goes across LATA boundaries and involves a long distance carrier
> charges.
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It is technically illegal since
> any device or scheme which is used to avoid tolls is illegal.
Pat, I think you need to look again at the situation here.
> If it so happens, by the merest coincidence, that it is convenient
> for you to receive calls intended for yourself at some alternative
> location and that location happens to be, when evaluated to the
> original caller a toll charge had the original caller dialed it
> direct, then my belief is you are within your rights to receive calls
> routed in that way. I believe however that to deliberatly structure
> your calling patterns in such a way as to *always* avoid tolls using
> call forwarding via local hops is in violation of the intent of the
> tariff, and thus the tariff itself.
The writer was not referring to avoiding local call charges; he was
referring to how to avoid paying an inter-lata carrier for the call.
I cannot see how this can be a violation of tariff when local telephone
companies, due to Judge Greene aren't even allowed to tariff inter-lata
calls (except very limited circumstances).
> The apparent contradition here lies in the *intent* behind call forwarding
> as it was developed by telco. The *intent* is to make it convenient for a
> person to receive their calls wherever they may happen to be. The *intent*
> is not to provide alternatives to the existing toll rates.
I think intent is irrelevant. If it is a violation of the phone
company's rules to use local service to avoid going through a carrier
-- and it only is if a tariff from the local phone company specifically
has one stating such a condition -- then it matters little whether one
does this on a regular, continuous basis or occasionally. Either
using multiple forwarding to bypass a lata restriction is a tariff
violation or it isn't, if it isn't, then it doesn't matter; if it is,
then the reasons don't matter.
Again, it must be a local wire company tariff explicitly stating that
using call forwarding expressly to avoid using a LATA is prohibited.
A tariff from AT&T or MCI carrying this is irrelevant.
If it's legal in some cases and not in others, where do you draw the
line? Once in a while? Once a week? Once a day? How do you set
such a standard? It's technically illegal to drive over 65 miles per
hour on any U.S. public road or faster than 55 in metropolitan areas,
whether you do it once or ten times a day; (getting caught is the
'technical' part).
> Let's assume it is legal. Unless all the interim connections are
> untimed, unmeasured local calls, there will be no savings, transparent
> or otherwise.
Unlike Illinois and the huge phone bill increases after Ameritech got
your call paks cancelled on the claim you would see lower bills, but
never did, some places -- perhaps many -- still have untimed local
calls.
> It is very, very rare when any two or more local calls (or for that matter
> any two or more long distance calls) when their costs are added together
> are cheaper than a single call from one destination to another.
I am in Silver Spring, Maryland. From this area to Baltimore is an
inter-lata call which costs between 15 and 19c per minute, for example,
depending on which carrier and what time called. 15c per minute is $9.00
per hour.
It is a local call from here to Columbia, MD. It is a local call from
Columbia to Baltimore. Local calls from both residential and business
customers are untimed and cost about 10c each. Based on these rates,
the break-even point on a call is 3 minutes.
If we assumed that you had to pay someone $20 a month to let them keep
an unused passthru line in their place, plus, say, $30 a month for
that passthru line, plus 10c per call, the break-even point is at 6
hours of usage a month, or about 1/2 hour each weekday. If the line
took two 15 minute call transfers each weekday, this would cost $5.00
in call charges. That means the line costs $55 a month.
The toll cost of 15 minutes 50 times a month is $120. This represents
a 50% savings over the cost of making the calls direct. Want to bet a
direct tie line stretching 40 miles from Baltimore to Silver Spring is
considerably more than either $55 or $120 a month.
Beyond that, we have remote call forwarding capability, which means the
destination number can be changed without visiting the site.
There are places where this sort of thing is cheaper.
> See my point? Nothing comes 'free', not even unmeasured local service
> as a way to avoid tolls. At bare minimum, skin and bones cost for the
> permanently forwarded interim line, you need to make a certain amount of
> calls each month before it rolls in your favor. Add any interim expenses
> and the rollover point gets even higher. Unless you can get the cost per
> minute down to under 10-12 cents then forget it, because you can get an
> 800 number with prices in that range, and the legality of 800 as a way
> of receiving calls is unquestioned.
At 10c a minute, we are still talking $6 an hour. That is quite a bit
of money in some cases. The only reason using 800 is legal is because
of the 2c per minute each side is getting in feature group access charges.
And that's what it all comes down to is money. If people wanted to
pay 2c per minute on forwarded calls, the local phone company wouldn't
care how you forwarded them.
Paul Robinson - Paul@TDR.COM
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Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 00:10:04 EDT
From: Paul Robinson <PAUL@tdr.com>
Reply-To: Paul Robinson <PAUL@tdr.com>
Subject: Re: Measured and Unlimited Service at Same Residence
Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA
John Higdon <john@bovine.ati.com> wrote:
> mmathews@hadron.wellfleet.com (Mat Mathews) writes:
> NYNEX tells me, however, that it IS NOT POSSIBLE to have measured and
> unlimited service at the same residence. Why is this?
> Probably because Nynex feels that this is a necessary way to extract
> the last farthing from you. While I snort aplenty about Pac*Bell, at
> least that company has absolutely no restrictions concerning mix and
> match on classes of service.
>> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note:
>> To get back to your original question, no they won't install metered
>> service at your premises then turn around and give you a way to bypass
>> the meter. Makes sense to me. PAT]
> But not to me. If the telco is selling unmeasured service, is it not
> done so expecting that the customer will make calls?... If a customer
> has [both]...he is getting exactly what he is paying for: a more
> expensive ... unlimited ... and a less expensive ...local calls are
> charged for ... never been able to comprehend the reasoning (other
> than greed or the desire to discourage having to provide extra
> service in a neighborhood) behind the rules against mixing classes of
> service...
I hadn't thought about it that way, and it makes sense. A person who
buys a limited and unlimited lines is doing essentially the same thing
as adding call waiting on their line, and the extra line is usually
more expensive than call waiting anyway.
I am in the unique situation of having had both unlimited and limited
lines at the same location.
We have three classes of residential service in this part of Maryland.
There is "economy" service which charges 9c for every call; there is
"measured" service which gives 65 free calls on the line; and there is
unlimited service. After having two unlimited service lines, then
adding a third line, I figured if I could convert them to 65 call
lines, that I would save money. I make calls to BBSs and would use
more than 65 calls per month, but if I understood it correctly I would
get 65*3 free calls per month, or 195 free call units, which is more
than enough.
Well, I find out from the clerk that I can do this, so I change over.
I talk to another clerk about something, and she informs me that each
line is separate and the call counts don't carry across from line to
line even though they are all billed on the same bill.
So I ask if I can have economy service on the two other lines and
unmeasured service on the line my computer is on, since I can't get
what I want, and the clerk says this is okay, except that I have to
have someone else in the place get the second economy line since a
person can't have two economy lines. My mother is living here so I
give them her name and identification.
This is back in November. I leave a message on TELECOM Digest about
my situation, and a local reader I've had messages with before informs
me that I *can* get all of the call counts combined. I check with a
clerk, she says no and even mails me the tariff pages that seem to
confirm that the call counts can not combined.
By February I mention something to a clerk and she says that's wrong,
the counts *can* be combined. So now I'm thoroughly confused. I ask
for a supervisor, explain the whole thing and she says this is what is
correct, and in fact having economy service with *any* other service
at the same address is a tariff violation.
You can have either one (1) phone line with economy. Or you can have
all lines as measured service or all lines as unlimited, but not both
types.
In fact, because of this the telephone company's computers are
bouncing my account's orders because they know what is on my account
is a tariff violation and won't accept them.
So the supervisor determines what I am trying to get -- three lines
billed as one account with combined call allocation of 195 calls per
month irregardless of which of the three lines places the calls -- and
she says that's exactly what the measured service is supposed to
provide.
So the supervisor orders me back-billed to correct the problem since
they have been billing me for the old account as well as the new one,
which I paid. By the time they cleared the account, plus the
erroneous account changes that were reversed because I wouldn't have
been charged them if the account was correctly set up in the first
place, it ended up that I had a credit of $85.00.
So I think that the statement as made is correct; the reason for not
allowing limited and unlimited is because the phone company wants to
squeeze the last nickel. The difference between a 65-call per month
line and an unlimited call line is about $12.
Paul Robinson - Paul@TDR.COM
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: A comedy of errors here: John Higdon has
further replied to Paul Robinson and sent a copy of that reply to the
Digest (without realizing it.) Getting my autoreply, he writes and says
'did not mean to send that since it was personal to Paul; unless you use
his don't use mine ...'. Not having Paul's message (above) on hand at the
moment I wrote John saying okay I would kill his message. Then bingo, that
being done, all of a sudden Paul's shows up here! Now I don't have John
Higdon's further reply which was a good one. So John, if you will write
again restating your comments responding to Paul, I will get yours out
to the list ASAP probably Monday. There! Is all that clear as mud?
As the Digest nears its 13th anniversary later this week I am hoping I
can hold the thing together and get a few issues out later this week. I
think regular readers know what I mean. PAT]
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 94 09:46:39 PDT
From: Leona Nichols <leona@telestrat.com>
Subject: Internet '94 Conference/Expo
A TeleStrategies Event co-chaired by the Commercial Internet eXchange (CIX)
TeleStrategies' Internet Conference and Expo '94
Monday October 10 - Wednesday October 12
Sheraton Crystal City, Arlington VA
Conference Track (Tue October 11 - Wed October 12):Publishing,
Marketing and Advertising on the Internet
Pre-Conference Tutorial (Mon October 10): Understanding Internet
Technologies For Non-Engineers And Strategic Planners
Demonstration Track (Mon October 10 - Wed October 12):Online
Demonstrations
Of Internet Services, Products And Access Technologies
Workshop Track (Tue October 11 - Wed October 12):How To Do
Business On The Internet
Exhibitions (Mon October 10 - Wed October 12)
CONFERENCE TRACK - Tuesday, October 11, 1994
Publishing , Marketing and Advertising on the Internet
8:00-9:00 Registration
9:00-10:00 - INTERNET: THE OUTLOOK FOR
COMMERCIALIZATION AND GROWTH
John Curran, Product Manager, BBN Technology Services
Bill Washburn, Executive Director, Commercial Internet
Exchange (CIX)
10:00-10:15 Coffee Break
10:15-12:00 - NEWSPAPER AND BOOK PUBLISHING ON
THE INTERNET
Jeff Crigler, Director, Market Development, Network
Advanced Services Division, IBM
Laura Fillmore, President, Online Bookstore
William S. Johnson, Publisher, Palo Alto Weekly
12:00-2:00 Hosted Lunch and Exhibits
2:00-2:45 - INTERNET USERS: WHO ARE THEY?
Magdalena Yesil, Partner, Management Forum
2:45-3:15 - INTERNET BILLING
Gary Desler, Senior Vice President, Network Solutions
3:15-3:30 Coffee Break
3:30-5:30 - CREATING BUSINESS MODELS FOR THE INTERNET
Gordon Cook, President, Cook Network Consultants
Chris Locke, President, MecklerWeb Corporation
Cathy Medich, Executive Director, CommerceNet
Robert Raisch, President, The Internet Company
5:30-6:30 Reception and Exhibits
CONFERENCE TRACK - Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Publishing , Marketing and Advertising on the Internet
8:30-10:00 - HOW TO MARKET AND ADVERTISE EFFECTIVELY
Andrew Frank, Director, Software Development,
Ogilvy & Mather Direct
Erica Gruen, Senior Vice President, Television, Information
and New Media, Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising Worldwide
Judith Axler Turner, a head of the working group on advertising
for the Coalition for Networked Information
10:00-10:30 Coffee Break and Exhibits
10:30-12:00 - COPYRIGHT AND LICENSING ISSUES
Kathlene Krag, Assistant Director, Copyright and New Technology
Association of American Publishers, Inc.
Steve Metalitz, Vice President and General Counsel
Information Industry Association
Martha Whittaker, General Manager, The UnCover Company
12:00-12:30 - VIDEO VIA THE INTERNET
Ed Moura, Vice President, Marketing and Sales
Hybrid Networks, Inc.
12:30-2:00 Hosted Lunch and Exhibits
2:00-3:30 - INFORMATION SERVICES AND THE INTERNET
Brad Templeton, President, ClariNet Communications
Richard Vancil, Vice President, Marketing, INDIVIDUAL, Inc.
Representative, America Online
3:30-3:45 Coffee Break
3:45-5:00 - INTERNET PUBLISHING AND MARKETING TOOLS
Bruce Caslow, Systems Engineer, Mesa Technologies
John Kolman, Vice President, NOTIS Systems, Inc.
Kevin Oliveau, Engineer, WAIS, Inc.
Pre-Conference Tutorial
UNDERSTANDING INTERNET TECHNOLOGIES
FOR NON-ENGINEERS AND STRATEGIC PLANNERS
Monday, October 10, 1994 - 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.
Presented By: John Curran, BBN Technology Services;
Bruce Antleman, Information Express;
Bruce Caslow, Mesa Technologies; and Stephen Crocker,
Trusted Information Systems, Inc.
This one-day tutorial is for the non-engineer, strategic planner,
entrepreneur or anyone who has to understand the Internet in
order to make business decisions about emerging commercial
opportunities. This tutorial covers not only Internet technologies,
economics and leading-edge opportunities, but also looks at
operational issues such as security, addressing and network
management from a business development perspective.
1. INTERNET OVERVIEW: What is the Internet? Who controls it? How do
you get connected? What can you do with it? Who pays for it? Who are
the players domestically and internationally? What is the role of the
NII and NREN? Why are the RBOCs, cable TV companies, IXCs and PDA
vendors interested in Internet? Why all the attention to commercializa-
tion? How is the Internet likely to evolve over the next few years?
2. INTERNET ACCESS, NAVIGATION AND APPLICATIONS: How to find, share
and sell information on the Internet. The basic application tools and
navigation/search systems (FTP, Telnet, Archie, Gopher, Mosaic, World
Wide Web, WAIS, etc.). Access service providers (CIX, PSI, Sprint and
others). Access options (dial-up, dedicated, frame relay, cable TV and
wireless).New entrepreneurial developments.
3. INTERNET TECHNOLOGIES: Role of TCP/IP. MAC vs. PC products. LAN
access (SLIP, PPP, frame relay, etc.) and WAN and ATM developments.
IPX, DECNET and APPLETALK. Leading edge vendors and where their
products are headed. IP addressing. How to obtain addresses (Class
A,B,and C). CIDR, Internet DNS and how to register. Setting up an
E-mail server, bulletin board and directory service.
4. INTERNET SECURITY AND MANAGEMENT: Security concerns, policies and
procedures. Defeating password sniffing. Firewalls and available
firewall toolkits. Encryption, authentication and Clipper Chip issues.
Other operational concerns related to doing business on the Internet.
Guidelines for managing a commercial Internet service. SNMP management
tools and products.
WORKSHOP TRACK - Tuesday, October 11, 1994
HOW TO DO BUSINESS ON THE INTERNET
9:00-10:15 - GETTING CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET
Howard McQueen, President, CD Consultants
10:15-10:45 Coffee Break
10:45-12:00 - CREATING A BUSINESS PRESENCE ON
THE INTERNET
Duffy Mazan, Partner, Electric Press, Inc.
12:00-2:00 Lunch and Exhibits
2:00-3:15 - MOSAIC
Bruce Caslow, Systems Engineer, Mesa Technologies
3:15-3:30 Break
3:30-5:00 - BUSINESS USES OF THE INTERNET
Al Dhir, President, Internet Access Group, Inc.
5:00-6:30 Reception and Exhibits
WORKSHOP TRACK - Wednesday, October 12, 1994
HOW TO DO BUSINESS ON THE INTERNET
9:00-10:15 - SECURITY: SINGLE SIGN ON
Tom McHale, Director of Marketing and Product Development
for North America, ICL, Inc.
10:15-10:45 Coffee Break
10:45-12:00 - CORPORATE AND BUSINESS TRAINING
OVER THE INTERNET
Speaker to be announced
12:00-2:00 Lunch and Exhibits
2:00-3:15 - NETIQUETTE: HOW TO DO BUSINESS ON
THE INTERNET WITHOUT GETTING "FLAMED"
Paul Kainen, President, Kainen Technology Services
ONLINE INTERNET DEMONSTRATION TRACK
Monday, October 10, 1994
2:00-5:00 p.m.
Track A: DEMYSTIFYING THE INTERNET
Paul Kainen, President, Kainen Technology Services
Track B: DEMONSTRATIONS BY WAIS, Inc.
and Performance Systems International
5:00-6:30 Reception and Exhibits
ONLINE INTERNET DEMONSTRATION TRACK
Tuesday, October 11, 1994
9:00 a.m.-12:00 p.m.
Track A: DEMYSTIFYING THE INTERNET
Bruce Caslow, Systems Engineer, Mesa Technologies
Track B: DEMONSTRATIONS BY:Semaphore Communications
- Internet security products - CD Consultants
12:00-2:00 Lunch and Exhibits
2:00-5:00
Track A: DEMONSTRATIONS BY Spry, Inc. -
"Internet in a Box" Online Bookstore
Track B: DEMONSTRATIONS BY MecklerWeb
Corporation and "Palo Alto Weekly," the first general
circulation newspaper on the Internet
5:00-6:30 Reception and Exhibits
ONLINE INTERNET DEMONSTRATION TRACK
Wednesday, October 12, 1994
9:00-12:00
Track A: DEMONSTRATIONS BY America Online -
demo of their current information services and NOTIS
Systems, Inc. - demo of new, easy-to-use publishing tool for the
Internet
Track B: DEMONSTRATION BY Hybrid Networks, Inc.
and Mesa Technologies - MOSAIC at 56 KBPS
12:00-2:00 Lunch and Exhibits
2:00-3:15
Track A: DEMONSTRATION BY LEGI-SLATE
Track B: DEMONSTRATION BY Gestalt Systems, Inc.
CURRENT ONLINE DEMONTRATIONS
Monday, October 10 - Wednesday, October 12
Current Demonstrations Conducted By: WAIS, Inc.,
SemaphoreCommunications, CD Consultants, Spry, Inc.,
Online Bookstore,MecklerWeb Corporation, "Palo Alto Weekly,"
America Online,NOTIS Systems, Inc., Hybrid Networks, Inc.,
Mesa Technologies,Legi-Slate, Performance Systems International
and Gestalt Systems, Inc.
EXHIBIT HOURS
Monday, October 10 - 5:00-6:30 p.m.
Tuesday, October 11 - 12:00-6:30 p.m.
Wednesday, October 12 - 10:00-2:00 p.m.
For more information about exhibiting, call
Jackie McGuigan at (703) 734-7050.
For more information or registration call (703) 734-7050.
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From: BGOODIN@unex.ucla.edu (William R. Goodin)
Subject: UCLA Short Courses in Communications Engineering
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 16:25:57
Organization: UCLA Extension
This fall, UCLA Extension will present four short courses in
communications engineering on the UCLA campus in Los Angeles.
"Wireless Voice and Data Communications", October 18-21, 1994.
The instructors will be Dr. C.R. "Rick" Baugh, consultant, and Mr.
Peter Rysavy, Rysavy and Associates.
This course provides an understanding of the new wireless technologies
and addresses the following technical planning/design and business
development questions:
o How do competing wireless technologies compare?
o What voice, data, messaging, and paging services will the technology
support?
o What technology is best for which applications?
o What are the wireless data technologies being used today?
o How does PCS interconnect with existing telecommunications networks?
o What is important for designing wireless products and services?
o What is the status of PCS standards and FCC license?
o How will existing wireless data technologies coexist with new PCS
technologies?
The topics to be covered include introduction to PCS and definition of
PCS technology alternatives, PCS multiple access technologies, PCS
system design issues, PCS networks, PCS interconnection with the PSTN,
advanced intelligent network features with PCS, FCC regulatory status,
PCS cost structures, issues in deploying PCS services, wireless
point-to-point solutions, wireless LANs, paging, data over cellular,
wireless data WANs, digital cellular, new networks, and data PCS.
-------------------
"Optical Fiber Communications: Techniques and Applications", October
25-28, 1994.
The instructors will be Dr Tran V. Muoi, Optical Communication
Products, Dr Bor U. Chen, Optical Communication Products, Dr Del
Hanson, Hewlett-Packard, and Dr Richard E. Wagner, Bellcore.
This course offers a review of optical fiber communications
fundamentals, then focuses on state-of-the-art technology and its
applications in present and future communication networks.
The course begins with the major building blocks of optical fiber
communications systems ( fiber and passive components, sources and
transmitters, detectors and receivers). Actual design examples of
fiber optic links for short-haul and long-haul applications are
studied, and recent technological advances in addressing problems due
to fiber loss and dispersion are presented.
Recent developments in local and metropolitan area networks to
support multimedia traffic and their evolving architectures and
standards are fully covered. The treatment on telecommunications
systems includes various technological options for subscriber
networks, exchange networks, and the global undersea networks.
Network architectures evolving from the traditional telephone and
CATV networks are contrasted. Technology trends and directions for
realizing the so-called information superhighway are examined as
well. Finally, optical networks using wavelength routing and
multi-wavelength cross-connects are presented.
________________________________
"Advanced Communication Systems Using Digital Signal Processing",
November 14-18, 1994.
The instructors will be Dr Bernard Sklar, Communications Engineering
Services, and Mr Frederick Harris, Professor, Electrical and Computer
Engineering, San Diego State University.
This course provides comprehensive coverage of advanced digital
communications. It differs from other communications courses in its
emphasis on applying modern digital signal processing techniques to
the implementation of communication systems. This makes the course
essential for practitioners in the rapidly changing field.
Error-correction coding, spread spectrum techniques, and
bandwidth-efficient signalling are all discussed in detail. Basic
digital signaling methods and the newest modulation-with -memory
techniques are presented, along with trellis-coded modulation.
Topics that are covered include: signal processing overview and
baseband transmission, bandpass modulation and demodulation, digital
signal processing tools and technology, non-recursive filters, channel
coding: error detection and correction, modulation and coding
trade-offs and bandwith-efficient signaling, signal conditioning,
adaptive algorithms for communication systems, spread spectrum
techniques, and multiple access and cryptographic techniques.
Each participant receives a copy of the text, "Digital
Communications-Fundamentals and Applications", by Bernard Sklar.
---------------------
"Active Circuit Design for Wireless Systems: Principles and
Applications", November 28- December 2, 1994.
The instructors will be Dr. Les Besser, Besser and Associates, and Dr
Stephen Maas, Nonlinear Technologies.
This course describes the design of RF circuits and subsystems,
beginning with approximate designs and optimizing them by the most
appropriate tool. The course also compares practical linear and
non-linear design methods used in active RF circuit engineering. It
gives participants in-depth instruction in the practical use of CAE
tools and their limitations, taking both lumped and distributed
transmission line networks into account.
Topics covered include review of linear active two-ports, monolithic
circuit amplifiers: availability and performance, discrete device
amplifiers, fundamentals and properties of nonlinear circuits,
nonlinear CAD programs, intermodulation distortion, large-signal
device modeling, power amplifier design, frequent multiplier design,
commercial MMICs for wireless applications, mixer design, and
oscillators.
Each participant will receive a copy of the text, "Nonlinear Microwave
Circuits", S. A. Maas.
_______________________________________
For additional information and complete course descriptions, please
contact Marcus Hennessy at:
(310) 825-1047
(310) 206-2815 fax
mhenness@unex.ucla.edu
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From: bellcore!ctt.bellcore.com!quasar@uunet.uu.net (Laurence R. Brothers)
Subject: Personal ACD vs. Telemarketers?
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 10:48:50 GMT
I want a device to do the following:
* Intercept incoming call and not pass ring to phone.
* Play message: "If this is a personal call press 1 now, otherwise
hang up."
* Hang up in 10 seconds if 1 is not pressed.
* If 1 is pressed, ring the phone.
I imagine an ACD could be trivially programmed to do this, but I also
imagine it would be rather expensive for an ordinary consumer to
purchase an ACD to serve just one line.
Perhaps I'm wrong about that, or perhaps there is some consumer device
to do basically this; if there is any reasonably affordable way to
achieve this effect, please let me know.
Basically my goal is to preempt all non-personal calls so that I don't
even know I'm being called. Anti-telemarketer approaches that rely on
callerid, distinctive ring, or listening to an answering machine don't
cut it, because in every such case I will be disturbed by the phone
ringing and probably have to go across my house to the phone in any
event. If I have to do that, I might as well just answer the phone and
hang up on the caller.
I imagine that this would be a simple to implement using an AIN
terminating call screening service, but unfortunately I don't have
access to anything like that. I can't think of any way to get ordinary
voice mail to do this either; so far as I know, no conventional voice
mail can ring back to the customer after its been activated.
Thanks, as usual, in advance. I will repost anything useful I get
to the net.
Laurence R. Brothers (quasar@bellcore.com)
Bellcore -- Computing Technology Integration -- Knowledge-Based Applications
------------------------------
Subject: Pcomm SPARC10 Binaries Sought
From: chakford@tenagra.sas.muohio.edu (Craig Chakford)
Date: 11 Aug 94 15:40:34 -0500
Hello,
I'm having a very difficult time compiling pcomm (a unix
procomm-like utility) for a SUN SPARCstation 10 running solaris 2.3,
using the gcc compiler, verssion 3.3 (or so). I'm not really
interested in getting it to compile any more. Does anyone have the
binaries, or know where I can get them? Any help would be
appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Craig chakford@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 94 00:28:00 -0500
From: dave.leibold@superctl.tor250.org (Dave Leibold)
Subject: PTL (Phone The LifeLine) Club
Reply-To: dave.leibold@superctl.tor250.org
The article "Putting God on the line" as it appeared in {The Toronto
Star} 9 August 1994, describes a long distance offering called
LifeLine, a reseller of WilTel long distance service as set up by a
company called AmeriVision. The text of that article originated with
Knight-Ridder Tribune and may appear in other newspapers.
LifeLine was set up for the conservative Christian community. In the
words of AmeriVision vice-president Carl Thompson: "You would call us
a fundamentalist Christian, right-wing organization -- and we like it."
10% of billings are donated to various conservative groups consistent
with the "religious right"; much of this community was offended by
AT&T's reported sponsorship of the Gay Games sporting event, and there
are concerns that major carriers sponsor entertainment shows that
aren't exactly the 700 Club.
LifeLine has a reported 80,000 customers, with growth of over 1000/week;
yet there are hopes for 3.5 million customers over the next five years
(somewhat more than current trends indicate).
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This is, to my knowledge, the first instance
of a religious organization forming an affinity group for the purpose of
telecommuniations. There have been other telecom users affinity groups,
such as the one dealing with conservation of natural resources, etc. In
the beginning -- the middle 1980's -- the "Gay Games" was originally known
as the "Gay Olympics"; the organizers were however sued by the international
organization which sponsors the Olympics events each year. Their claim
was that the word 'olympics' is copyrighted when used in the context of
an organized series of sporting events held on a regular basis. The court
found in their favor and required the organizers of "Gay Olympics" to drop
their use of the word in that context; thus the change a few years ago
to the "Gay Games" name they use now. PAT]
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From: quioqy@satelnet.org (Quioqy)
Subject: Europe: Unlimited Residential Service
Date: 12 Aug 1994 09:37:33 -0400
Organization: SatelNET
"Freedom of information" = the cost of access to the internet = the cost
of the access provider + the connect cost charged by the local telcom.
In America there are access providers which charge per time unit, and
newer ones which charge a flat monthly rate. Local Bells provide
residential service at a flat rate for unlimited local calls. Thus in
most areas "freedom of information" can be purchased at a flat monthly
rate, for instance: $20 for internet access + $20 for unlimited local
calls = $40 per month for freedom of information +/- 10 percent.
In Europe I imagine the situation varies from country to country.
Please post your local experience, so that we may all get an
impression of the cost of "freedom of information" in the countries of
Europe.
Government and social hierarchy seems always to have been associated
with "-information" that is restriction of access and disinformation.
Competetive advantage seems to have been associated with "+information",
that is broadness in scope and ease of access.
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From: jantypas@ccnet.com (John Antypas)
Subject: CPUC and Cellular Phone Rebates (Again)
Date: 12 Aug 1994 10:22:10 -0700
Organization: CCnet Communications
OK -- now I'm really confused.
I live in the San Fransisco Bay Area and I've been looking at getting
a cellular phone. The two major carriers in my area are GTE MobileNet
and Cellular One.
Any many of you no doubt know, many dealers outside the Bay are
providing substantial rebates on phone prices. As an example, the
MotCo PT-550 can be had for as little as $99 with a one-year contract.
In the Bay, the best I can do is $200. The reason, according to Cell
One dealers is as follows:
"The CPUC prevents us from selling the phone at anything less than 10%
below a standard retail price. Anything less is illegal."
Now, I've probably misunderstood something here, so please Cell One
Dealers, the Good Guys, or whomever else is reading this, explain this
ruling? It only affects the Bay, it does not seem to bother GTE
MobileNet dealers at all. To quote FOUR Cell One dealers, "Well, if
they want to do something illegal, that doesn't mean we can" Sure
sounds strange to me.
1) The CPUC regulates the state, not just the Bay.
2) It doesn't care a witt about Cell One vs. GTE vs. US West vs. Bob's CellCO.
3) Why the $75-$100 rebates only via GTE?
It sure sounds like Cell One dealers are feeding me a line, but I
could be missing something. Again, for a one-year contract at
$0.40/$0.20 peak /off-peak rates and a purchase of a new PT-550 phone,
Cell One Dealers want $200-$220 for the phone and fat battery +
$40/month. GTE dealers want $120-$150 + $40/mon.
What gives? If anyone is interested, I'll gladly give out the phone
numbers of various dealers via e-mail so this can be verified. Cell
One Dealers, I am open to any pricing you have and I'll give you
numbers of ads for GTE dealers to check against.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:49:28 GMT
From: Will Martin <asa@STL-07SIMA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Blocking 800-Number Charge-Backs
Here's an extract from a misc.consumers posting that includes a list
of the 800 numbers for ten carriers which you can call if you want
charge-back 800 call billing blocked on your line. Note that these are
for carriers serving the St. Cloud, MN area, so there are undoubtedly
many more in other areas, too:
Subject: stop 800 number billing
From: darren.young@granite.mn.org (Darren Young)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 94 17:28:00 +0600
Organization: Granite City Connection St. Cloud MN 612-654-8372
Did you know that you can be charged for 1-800 number calls? I was
told this before but thought they guy that told me was crazy.
...
Now after talking with the VSR company d*nk, I was informed that
they could block this from my number, but it would only be THEIR
particular company. There are 100's of these companies throughout the
US doing this. She did tell me that a call to my local phone company
would result in a block (like the 900 number block I currently have),
that would keep this from happening. Not true! US West told me that
of the 20 some long distance carriers that service my area (St. Cloud,
MN), 10 of these offer billable 800 number service, and I would have
to call each and every one of them to have them block this [<---insert
profanity here--->] thing. Anyhow, here's the list........
Network Access 1-800-918-8255
Long Distance Billing 1-800-748-4309
ITA 1-800-866-8889
Integratel 1-800-736-7500
Info Access 1-800-661-1352
Federal Transtel 1-800-388-8111
Enhance Service Billing Co. 1-800-460-0078
Communications Telesystems 1-800-569-8200
American Telenet 1-800-460-0307
VRS Subscriber Service 1-800-800-2526
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From: TELECOM Digest Editor <telecom@eecs.nwu.edu>
Subject: Another Year of it
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 08:30:00 CDT
I just thought I would mention this issue marks the start of another
year of TELECOM Digest. The Digest started thirteen years ago, on
August 11, 1981. It was founded by Jon Solomon, and was spun-off from
a group at that time called Human-Nets. Just as this Digest was by a
group of people interested in more specialized discussions on telecom
topics than was going on in Human-Nets, it has also been responsible
for the creation of two journals in recent years: The Computer Underground
Digest and the Computer Privacy Digest were both originally part of
TELECOM Digest. They began when discussions here on the topics covered
in those journals began to get too far afield from what is usually
covered here. I assumed control of the Digest in October, 1988.
I believe that with thirteen years of continuous publication, TELECOM
Digest is the oldest continuing e-journal distributed on the Internet
and related internet of computers throughout the world. Many of the
original reader/participants are still around. For various reasons,
publication and distribution of the Digest has been shaky over the
past few months, but things are starting to look better.
Anyway, welcome to the start of year fourteen.
Pat
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Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
Book Review: "Understanding Telephone Electronics" by Bigelow (Rob Slade)
Cisco to Ship ATM Switch (Stephen Goodman)
NPA/NXX Report #14 (David Esan)
AT&T For Far Local Calls After August? (Gary L. Dare)
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Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 11:39:42 MDT
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Understanding Telephone Electronics" by Bigelow
BKUNDTEL.RVW 940608
SAMS Publishing
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Carmel, IN 46032-5634
317-573-2500 317-581-3535
800-428-5331 800-428-3804
or
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Indianapolis, IN 46290
317-581-3718 fax: 317-581-4669
"Understanding Telephone Electronics", Bigelow, 1991, 0-672-27350-0,
U$24.95/C$31.95
One of my professors was fond of remarking that a computer scientist
was one who sat at a terminal connected to a wire that disappeared
into the wall. Not only did the computer scientist not know what was
on the other side of the wall, he or she did not *want* to know. For
those involved in data communications, life is not quite that simple.
There is a requirement to deal with hardware, both at the simple level
of cables and phone cords, and up through modems, multiplexers and
PADs. Most, however, stop short at the phone jack. The wires go off
into the wall, and not only do the data comm types not know what is on
the other side of the wall ...
Some, however, may actually want to know. There are remarkably few
sources outside of professional or engineering references. Thus, it
is very heartening to find that this book is not merely a source of
information, but is written clearly and presented well. Illustrations
are illustrative and organization is thorough. (The end of chapter
quizzes are so simple as to be a waste of time, but I suppose you
can't have everything.)
Logically divided chapters lay out the basics and details of the
telephone system; telephone set; electronic speech, dialling and
ringing circuits; integrated telephone circuits; electronics in the
central office; network transmission; and wireless and cellular
phones. We data mavens are remembered with chapters on digital
transmission, modem and facsimile. The material is lucid and, at all
points, within reach of the intelligent novice.
This is, by no means, written specifically for the data professional.
Anyone with an curiosity for what is inside a telephone will be
interested. Electronics buffs may find enough detail in the
schematics to try and build telephones; even quite advanced ones; at
home.
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1994 BKUNDTEL.RVW 940608. Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated mailing lists/newsgroups.
DECUS Canada Communications, Desktop, Education and Security group newsletters
Editor and/or reviewer ROBERTS@decus.ca, RSlade@sfu.ca, Rob Slade at 1:153/733
DECUS Symposium '95, Toronto, ON, February 13-17, 1995, contact: rulag@decus.ca
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Date: Tue, 16 Aug 94 16:32 EST
From: Stephen Goodman <0003945654@mcimail.com>
Subject: Cisco to Ship ATM Switch
CISCO TO SHIP ATM SWITCH NEXT MONTH;
FIRST TO SUPPORT ATM FORUM'S NEW P-NNI ROUTING STANDARD
SAN JOSE, Calif., Aug. 15, 1994 -- Cisco Systems next month
will begin customer shipments of its Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM)
switch, the HyperSwitch A100. The new product will be the first ATM
switch to support the Phase 0 P-NNI (Private Network Node Interface)
protocol adopted by the ATM Forum in July and soon to be finalized as
the first available solution for ensuring interoperability among
multi-vendor ATM switches.
The HyperSwitch will be used in conjunction with Cisco's ATM
Interface Processor (AIP), which began shipping in May for the firm's
high-end Cisco 7000 family of routers. The two products together form
a key part of the CiscoFusion(TM) architecture, which combines routing
and multi-layer switching technologies to build scalable, secure and
intelligent enterprise internetworks.
Larry Lang, senior product line manager, said, "Cisco is the
first vendor to offer both a PNNI-compliant ATM switch and a
UNI-compliant ATM router, providing the industry's only complete ATM
solution based on ATM Forum standards. The combination of the
HyperSwitch and the AIP card will allow users to create high-speed
switched internetworks that eliminate congestion problems in corporate
backbone internetworks.
An Interoperability Standard for ATM Networks
Lang called Phase 0 P-NNI support "a critical component of our
ATM strategy. Cisco led the way in defining this protocol, which
provides an urgently needed interoperability standard for ATM
networks. Now, for the first time, users can build multi- switch,
multi-vendor networks and set up switched virtual connections across
those networks without resorting to proprietary protocols that lock
customers into a single vendor's solution.
"As a founding member of the ATM Forum, and chair of the LAN
emulation working group, Cisco is committed to the development and
implementation of current and emerging industry standards that permit
true interoperability."
Cisco will continue to play a leading role as the ATM Forum
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From: de@moscom.com (David Esan)
Subject: NPA/NXX Report #14
Date: 17 Aug 94 11:42:31 GMT
Organization: Moscom Corporation, Pittsford NY
This is my quarterly report on the number of exchanges in each NPA in
the NANP. It is derived from information in FCC #10. This is article
#14 in the series.
FCC #10 is a tariff issued by BellCore that contains all the area
codes, exchange combinations in the North American Numbering Plan
(NANP). It also contains lata information and V&H coordinate
information. There is a lot of additional information that I don't
use, so I won't add here. It is available through a number of
sources. The one closest to the FCC is ITS, which can be contacted at
202-857-3800. My company compiles this information for use in its
products and does not seem to be interested in selling this
information. Queries are still flowing through the bureaucracy.
I have used pages that are effective prior to July 20, 1994. I am not
responsible for the information supplied in FCC #10.
I have not included the following in my counts of exchanges:
- NXX's that are not dialable by a standard user (ie nxx's that begin
with a 1 or 0).
- Mexican exchanges in the 52? series of area codes. I've got them,
you can dial them with 011, but they're not really NPAs.
- Exchanges that are non-dialable in the 88? series of area codes. I've
got those also, but you can't dial them, so I'm not including them.
Numbers that begin with 88 are nondialable stations in the US, Canada and
Mexico. They are ranches in the middle of the Nevada or Texas desert,
or isolated outpost of civilization (always wanted to use that phrase) in
the tundra of Canada. I find place names like the Bar J Ranch, Double B
Ranch, and JD Dye, Texas, Amargosa, Corncreek and Reese Valley, NV, and
Chick Lake, Redknife and Taglu, NT. I gather they are ringdown stations,
or radio-telephone stations. [It has been noted in c.d.t. that at least
two of these numbers are for a bordello on the NV-CA border.]
The fields are:
------------ rank last in April, 1994
213: 736 (1, 7)
area code --^^^ ^^^ ^------- number of new exchanges
|-------------- total number of exchanges
205: 740 ( 3, 11) 602: 712 ( 8, 21) 813 : 630 (16, 15) 403: 621 (13, 2)
313: 733 ( 2, 2) 713: 686 ( 9, 16) 615 : 628 (14, 11) 503: 620 (18, 12)
215: 726 ( 4, 16) 703: 664 (10, 9) 604 : 624 (15, 7) 305: 611 (21, 15)
206: 723 ( 6, 24) 303: 643 (12, 18) 216 : 623 (19, 17) 404: 607 (20, 6)
708: 715 ( 7, 19) 212: 642 (11, 4) 803 : 622 (17, 13) 214: 607 (22, 12)
1. 205 - split is planned. Number should be reduced by split.
2. 313 - split is in progress. Number should be reduced by split.
3. 215 - split is in progress. Number should be reduced by split.
4. 206 - split is planned. Number should be reduced by split.
5. 708 - split is planned. Number should be reduced by split.
6. 602 - split is planned. Number should be reduced by split.
7. 713 - split is planned. Number should be reduced by split.
8. 703 - split is planned. Number should be reduced by split.
11. 813 - split is planned. Number should be reduced by split.
12. 615 - split is planned. Number should be reduced by split.
18. 305 - split is planned. Number should be reduced by split.
Note: The Los Angeles Area (213/818/310) area will receive an overlay area
code. While none of these NPAs are in the top 20 this is an area of
rapid telephone growth.
-> The NPA that is largest and is not splitting nor has plans, at this time,
to split, is 303.
-> The 3 smallest NPA's were 302, 906, 807. They are now:
413: 137 - Western Massachusetts (+1 exchange)
906: 117 - Michigan's Upper Peninsula (no change)
807: 109 - Western Ontario (+1 exchange)
-> The NPAs with the greatest growth rates are:
NPA % growth
512 4.91
917 4.76
417 4.21
310 4.02
303 3.99
617 3.91
813 3.89
719 3.80
610 3.79
213 3.63
-> The 10 NPAs with the least growth rates are:
NPA % growth
806 -.76
718 -.39
212 0
217 0
309 0
410 0
418 0
506 0
515 0
519 0
Just for grins:
The most used NXX (not counting 555) is 754 used in 118 npas.
The least used are:
211 and 311 used only in 212,
900 used in 213,
950 used only in 716 (my NPA),
and 959 used only in 808.
I should note here that these are exchanges that are truly in use, not
for special calling, but in general day to day use. 716-950 was an
exchange before the general use of 950 as a special number exchange.
All the NPAs and the number of nxx's in each are listed below:
919: 731 214: 595 201: 472 213: 400 912: 360 819: 317 709: 264
313: 731 612: 592 412: 466 316: 396 810: 359 918: 310 509: 263
205: 729 314: 588 913: 460 704: 392 519: 359 613: 309 806: 261
215: 710 809: 577 306: 458 219: 390 204: 358 909: 308 608: 260
416: 707 501: 575 818: 455 910: 385 207: 357 706: 308 603: 251
206: 699 203: 573 407: 454 801: 383 304: 351 218: 303 901: 250
708: 696 904: 571 210: 454 914: 382 419: 347 610: 301 417: 223
602: 691 619: 562 617: 452 406: 382 319: 346 808: 300 308: 217
713: 670 817: 550 614: 452 504: 380 618: 345 202: 299 707: 206
703: 655 405: 546 415: 443 502: 380 517: 344 606: 292 719: 191
212: 638 310: 544 410: 441 908: 376 505: 343 903: 291 506: 186
303: 625 804: 542 515: 440 301: 376 702: 337 712: 289 802: 183
403: 619 717: 525 601: 439 510: 375 805: 335 812: 288 307: 182
615: 617 312: 521 402: 428 217: 375 915: 324 518: 281 607: 180
604: 617 414: 517 714: 426 418: 370 409: 323 507: 281 917: 176
813: 615 514: 510 516: 426 701: 367 815: 322 902: 279 401: 149
803: 609 718: 506 508: 419 408: 366 715: 321 705: 275 413: 136
503: 608 816: 496 716: 415 605: 365 208: 320 315: 273 302: 136
216: 606 513: 488 907: 414 318: 364 609: 319 814: 271 906: 117
404: 601 317: 486 616: 410 512: 363 905: 318 309: 268 807: 107
305: 596 916: 475 209: 402
David Esan de@moscom.com
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From: gld@prairienet.org (Gary L. Dare)
Subject: AT&T For Far Local Calls After August?
Date: 17 Aug 1994 05:50:39 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Reply-To: gld@prairienet.org (Gary L. Dare)
In the metro Chicago area codes 708 and 312, AT&T has been having a
sale on C & D tier locals calls (over 15 miles) in competition with
Ameritech; Ma Bell may be doing the same in other areas. What will be
the case after August 31st when their "up to 10% off" sale ends ...
will it be extended, or will they offer local rates for "far distance"
calls at the same price as a local carrier? Thanks for any info ...
Where I am (Rolling Meadows), all my calls to area code 312 (Chicago
proper) and Evanston (Northwestern University area) fall into the C
and D band. The calls under 15 miles would actually cost more using
AT&T rather than Ameritech.
Gary L. Dare formerly gld@columbia.edu
gld@prairienet.org uk960@freenet.victoria.bc.ca
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From: bnunes@netcom.com (Brian Nunes)
Subject: Call Waiting on Error-Correcting Modems?
Organization: This Way Out, the int'l lesbian & gay radio magazine
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 06:00:00 GMT
I have a bizarre question, if reading the rest of the posts is any
indication. I have a 14.4 bps modem and I have call waiting, but my
question is not how to turn off the call waiting, but how to let the
second call get through. Apparently the "click" or "beep" to let me
know I have a second call is seen as "noise" by the modem, which then
error-corrects it away.
There are times when I *WANT* a voice call to come through, so I
specifically DO NOT TURN OFF call waiting. Sometimes it will knock me
offline, but quite often I later find out that my line just rang and
rang with a second call, and I had no idea (no weird characters on the
screen, no loss of carrier).
Any idea how I can make my modem "more sensitive" to the call-waiting
beep, without disabling error-correction?
Thanks!
Brian Nunes=*-*-*-*-*-* bnunes@netcom.com -*-*- +1.213.656.9117
7985 Santa Monica Blvd. #109-473, West Hollywood, CA 90046-5112
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: No, there isn't any way to do it. I
don't know how many times over the years here there have been articles
asking how to *avoid* being knocked off by call waiting; this seems
to be the first saying the person wants to be knocked off. I suggest
its impossible to have it both ways. Early modems had no error correction
built into them and there were chronic problems of the sort described.
So the modem manufacturers improve their products considerably and now
people want things the other way around. My belief has always been that
your modem and/or fax line simply has to be a line dedicated to that
purpose, and no other. Have a single line for data purposes, totally
separate and apart from voice. The two do not mix well at all. PAT]
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Date: Wed, 17 Aug 94 02:07 EDT
From: johnl@iecc.com (John Levine)
Subject: Why Can't I Keep a V.32 Connection Up?
I'm here at my summer headquarters at the beach in New Jersey, and I'm
having incredible trouble getting a reliable modem connection. Half
the time, the modem won't even shake hands, the other half of the time
the connection dies after somewhere between one and fifteen minutes.
I've tried this with two different modems, a Megahertz PCMCIA and a
GBC (or maybe GVC, it's an OEM version without a label) external modem.
The other end is a bank of five Telebits. I'm trying to connect at
14.4K V.32bis.
I'm in Harvey Cedars NJ (609-361), the other end is in Pleasantville
(609-485) which is a local call albeit a different CO. Both COs have
modern electronic switches. I have two phone lines here and have
about the same amount of trouble with either. Things work best in the
morning, worst around midnight. (Strange but true.) There is no
audible noise that I can hear on the line. I had the same problem
last year but though that it was due to the cheapo Sportster modem I
was using.
Any suggestions? If I shelled out for a Telebit would it be likely to
work any better? Any magic things I can say to repair service beyond
"my fax machine keeps hanging up" ?
Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.com
Primary perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies"
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: If you told that to telco, they will probably
be quick to respond that fax machines do not operate at 14.4 usually. Why
don't you try backing down to 9600 and seeing if that works. Or, go to 2400
and see how well it performs then increase it to 9600 if circumstances will
handle it. All the time you have spent negotiating at 14.4 could have been
used transferring a lot of data at 2400/9600. PAT]
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Date: 17-AUG-1994 15:31:28
From: DREUBEN@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU
Subject: MobileMedia Significantly Better Than Pagemart?
I've had PageMart's Natiowide pager service for over a year now, and
overall find it to be acceptable. I pay $25 or so per month for
service (I own my pager, so no rental fee), get 200 nationwide pages
per month, "voice-mail" where I can call in and hear the last 15
pages, and callers hear a message from ME (not beeps) when they call
in.
I thought Pagemart's coverage was pretty good -- I even got pages
while in Toronto, which I guess came from New York state locations on
the other side of lake Ontario. I especially like the system where
callers hear a personalized greeting -- this allows me to forward
other numbers to my pager and leave instructions on how to page me
properly when caller reach the pager. The fact that I can retrieve the
numbers later on by calling into my pager is equally useful.
Recently, I acquired service from MobileMedia, which rents me a
Motorola Advisor (alpha) pager for $32 or so per month. I pay $3 extra
for an additional coverage "region". I think the regions are:
DC/Baltimore, West VA/PA, NY Metro, and New England. Each added region
costs $3, except West VA/PA which is $9 more. I get two numbers: a
regular local number for numeric beeps, and a 800 number with an ID
code which people use to leave me alpha (text) messages. There is no
provision for my own, personalized outgoing message, nor can I
retrieve numeric messages remotely like I can with Pagemart -- if I
miss a *numeric* page it is gone forever. (The alpha pages can be
replayed to you if you call the dispatch center and ask them to do so;
these will count towards your monthly "free" page allowance. I think
that only pages sent through the service, ie, where people called the
800 number and talked to a representative and gave him/her your ID number
can be re-sent, while those which you dispatch via a PC can not.)
I get 250 "free" numeric beeps per month, 250 *PC-dispatched* alpha
beeps per month, and 25 human-dispatched (where callers use the 800 number
and speak to a person who keys in the message.)
The most significant difference between Pagemart and Mobilmedia is the
coverage. I was traveling through Western Mass and along I-91 between
VT and NH for the past few days, and received EVERY page on my
MobilMedia beeper. I got absolutely nothing with PageMart. I even did
a number of test pages where I called my computer from the car, which
then calls me back in two minutes and pages me on BOTH pagers (for
comparative testing purposes.) I had very prompt and reliable service
on MobilMedia from White River Junction, VT and about 20 miles
surrounding that city, all the way south to cover all of Mass, CT, and
RI. Previous trials in NY, NJ, PA, and DE (all within my coverage
area) were also excellent -- EVERY page went through, while only a few
of the duplicate pages which were sent to PageMart worked.
My observations lead me to conclude that PageMart really only works
well in large cities and along well-travelled corridors. By "large" I
mean something like Scranton, PA and up, ie, places with a significant
amount of people and/or commerce. Out West, PageMart did quite well in
large, flat areas, but back East, in the hills of New England (or even
on sections of the New Jersey Turnpike!) PageMart fails miserably, at
least compared to the vastly superior coverage of MobileMedia.
MobileMedia service is available from West Virginia to DC through PA
and up along the East Coast to DE, NJ, NY (to Albany, more?), CT, MA,
RI, NH, VT (Eastern VT only, they are planning to expand this soon)
and Maine. You can get nationwide coverage, too, but that involves
using SkyTel, and paying their outrageous rates or $80 per month or
so. (I laughed when the SkyTel rep without hesitation quoted me that
rate and said it was "economical"! He said "Oh, but WE work in
countries where no one else goes, like Singapore". Big deal, next
time I want to get beaten I'll call SkyTel first! :) )
Overall, I am *very* impressed by the coverage which MobilMedia
provides. I was always under the impression that I had to sacrifice
*thorough* penetration in order to get regionwide coverage, which
turns out not to be the case with MobilMedia. I just wish I could add
other regions, like California (assuming the coverage is equally as
good there on whatever carrier MobileMedia/SkyTel uses), without
paying $80+ per month for SkyTel.
If you just need to go from city to city, then Pagemart's nationwide
(no Canadian service :( ) is acceptable, and has nice bonuses like
personalized greetings and storage of pages. And at $25 or so per
month on an annual contract, I can't complain. (Altghough don't try
calling cust. svc. -- they are perpetually busy. PageMart is working
to alleviate this.)
However, if you are in the Northeast or Mid-Atlantic regions, and want
highly effective pager service which works just about everywhere, I'd
suggest you give MobileMedia (previously MetroMedia) a try.
Doug CID Technologies (203) 499 - 5221
------------------------------
From: ethridge@donald.sp.trw.com (David L. Ethridge)
Subject: Cellular Standards
Date: 17 Aug 1994 14:13:29 GMT
Organization: TRW
Reply-To: ethridge@donald.sp.trw.com
Hello Everyone:
Could anyone recommend a reference book, conference paper, or other
technical resource which compares the GSM (TDMA) cellular standard
used in Europe with the IS-95 (CDMA) standard developed by Qualcomm?
In particular, I am curious if there are any systems being developed
which are compatible with both, or which use one standard for the
interface between the mobile and base station and the other standard
for the interface between the base station and the local public
switched telephone networks. Does anyone know what the fundamental
problems, issues, and concerns associated such a system are? Any
information that anyone could provide would be greatly appreciated.
As always, thanks in advance for your help.
David Ethridge ethridge@donald.sp.trw.com
------------------------------
From: gkm@uow.edu.au (Glen K Moore)
Subject: Will an Australian Cellular Phone Work in USA?
Date: 17 Aug 1994 00:21:23 +1000
Organization: University of Wollongong, NSW, Australia.
I have received many opinions as to whether:
1. an Australian cellular phone (Motorola Microtac Ultralite) will
work in the USA.
2. whether it is possible to get a connection if it will work.
Anyone out there really know? Does anyone have fax numbers for
telephone companies in the San Francisco area who might be able to
advise?
It seems Australia has reciprocal agreements in every country (almost)
except the USA. The reason usually given is the large number of
different carriers in the USA. In Australia, until recently, we had
only one.
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Glen
University of Wollongong, AUSTRALIA
email: g.moore@uow.edu.au fax: 61 42 213151 tel: 018 425325 (mobile)
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From: mech@eff.org (Stanton McCandlish)
Subject: EFF Analysis of Leahy/Edwards Digital Telephony Bill
Date: 15 Aug 1994 11:58:23 PDT
EFF SUMMARY OF THE EDWARDS/LEAHY DIGITAL TELEPHONY BILL
OVERVIEW
The Edwards/Leahy Digital Telephony bill places functional
requirements on telecommunications carriers in order to enable law
enforcement to continue to conduct authorized electronic surveillance.
It allows a court to impose fines on carriers that violate the
requirements, and mandates that the processes for determining capacity
requirements and technical standards be open and public. The bill
also contains significant new privacy protections; including an
increased standard for government access to transactional data (such
as addressing information contained in electronic mail logs), a
requirement that information acquired through the use of pen registers
or trap and trace devices not disclose the physical location of an
individual, and an expansion of current law to protect the radio
portion of cordless telephone conversations from unauthorized
surveillance.
SCOPE OF THE BILL. WHO IS COVERED?
The requirements of the bill apply to "telecommunications carriers",
which are defined as any person or entity engaged in the transmission
or switching of wire or electronic communications as a common carrier
for hire (as defined by section 3 (h) of the Communications Act of
1934), including commercial mobile services (cellular, PCS, etc.).
The bill also applies to those persons or entities engaged in
providing wire or electronic communication switching or transmission
service to the extent that the FCC finds that such service is a
replacement for a substantial portion of the local telephone exchange.
The bill does not apply to online communication and information
services such as Internet providers, Compuserve, AOL, Prodigy, and
BBS's. It also excludes private networks, PBX's, and facilities which
only interconnect telecommunications carriers or private networks
(such as most long distance service).
REQUIREMENTS IMPOSED ON CARRIERS
Telecommunications carriers would be required to ensure that they
possess sufficient capability and capacity to accommodate law
enforcement's needs. The bill distinguishes between capability and
capacity requirements, and ensures that the determination of such
requirements occur in an open and public process.
CAPABILITY REQUIREMENTS
A telecommunications carrier is required to ensure that, within four years
from the date of enactment, it has the capability to:
1. expeditiously isolate the content of a targeted communication
within its service area;
2. isolate call-identifying information about the origin and
destination of a targeted communication;
3. enable the government to access isolated communications at a point away
from the carrier's premises and on facilities procured by the government,
and;
4. to do so unobtrusively and in such a way that protects the privacy and
security of communications not authorized to be intercepted (Sec. 2601).
However, the bill does not permit law enforcement agencies or officers
to require the specific design of features or services, nor does it
prohibit a carrier from deploying any feature or service which does
not meet the requirements outlined above.
CAPACITY REQUIREMENTS
Within one year of enactment of the bill, the Attorney General must
determine the maximum number of intercepts, pen register, and trap and
trace devices that law enforcement will require four years from the
date of enactment. Notices of capacity requirements must be published
in the Federal Register (Sec. 2603). Carriers have four years to comply
with capacity requirements.
PROCESS FOR DETERMINING TECH. STANDARDS TO IMPLEMENT CAPABILITY REQUIREMENTS
Telecommunications carriers, through trade associations or standards
setting bodies and in consultation with the Attorney General, must
determine the technical specifications necessary to implement the
capability requirements (Sec. 2606).
The bill contains a 'safe harbor' provision, which allows a carrier to
meet its obligations under the legislation if it is in compliance with
publicly available standards set through this process. A carrier may
deploy a feature or service in the absence of technical standards,
although in such a case the carrier would not be covered by the safe
harbor provision and may be found in violation.
Furthermore, the legislation allows any one to file a motion at the
FCC in the event that a standard violates the privacy and security of
telecommunications networks or does not meet the requirements of the
bill (Sec. 2606). If petitioned under this section, the FCC may
establish technical requirements or standards that:
1) meet the capability requirements (in Sec. 2602);
2) protect the privacy and security of communications not authorized
to be intercepted, and;
3) encourage the provision of new technologies and services to the public.
ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES
In the event that a court or the FCC deems a technical standard to be
insufficient, or if law enforcement finds that it is unable to conduct
authorized surveillance because a carrier has not met the requirements
of this legislation, the Attorney General can request that a court
issue an enforcement order (an order directing a carrier to comply),
and/or a fine of up to $10,000 per day for each day in violation (Sec.
2607). However, a court can issue an enforcement order or fine a
carrier only if it can be determined that no other reasonable
alternatives are available to law enforcement. This provision allows
carriers to deploy features and services which may not meet the
requirements of the bill. Furthermore, this legislation does not
permit the government to block the adoption or use of any feature or
service by a telecommunications carrier which does not meet the
requirements.
The bill requires the government to reimburse carriers for all
reasonable costs associated with complying with the capacity
requirements. In other words, the government will pay for upgrades of
current features or services, as well as any future upgrades which may
be necessary, pursuant to published notices of capacity requirements
(Sec. 2608).
There is $500,000,000 authorized for appropriation to cover the costs
of government reimbursements to carriers. In the event that a smaller
sum is actually appropriated, the bill allows a court to determine
whether a carrier must comply (Sec. 2608 (d)). This section
recognizes that telecommunications carriers may not be responsible for
meeting the requirements if the government does not cover reasonable
costs.
The government is also required to submit a report to congress within
four years describing all costs paid to carriers for upgrades (Sec. 4).
ENHANCED PRIVACY PROTECTIONS
The legislation contains enhanced privacy protections for transactional
information (such as telephone toll records and electronic mail logs)
generated in the course of completing a communication. Current law
permits law enforcement to gain access to transactional information
through a subpoena. The bill establishes a higher standard for law
enforcement access to transactional data contained electronic mail
logs and other online records. Telephone toll records would still be
available through a subpoena. Under the new standard, law enforcement
is required to obtain a court order by demonstrating specific and
articulable facts that electronic mail logs and other online
transactional records are relevant and material to an ongoing criminal
investigation (Sec. 10).
Law enforcement is also prohibited from remotely activating any
surveillance capability. All intercepts must be conducted with the
affirmative consent of a telecommunications carrier and activated by a
designated employee of the carrier within the carrier's facilities
(Sec. 2604).
The bill further requires that, when using pen registers and trap and
trace devices, law enforcement will use, when reasonably available,
devices which only provide call set up and dialed number information
(Sec. 10). This provision will ensure that as law enforcement employs
new technologies in pen register and trap and trace devices, it will
not gain access to additional call setup information beyond its
current authority.
Finally, the bill extends the Electronic Communications Privacy Act
(ECPA) protections against interception of wireless communications to
cordless telephones, making illegal the intentional interception of
the radio portion of a cordless telephone (the transmission between
the handset and the base unit).
CELLULAR SCANNERS
The bill makes it a crime to possess or use an altered
telecommunications instrument (such as a cellular telephone or
scanning receiver) to obtain unauthorized access to telecommunications
services (Sec. 9). This provision is intended to prevent the illegal
use of cellular and other wireless communications services.
Violations under this section face imprisonment for up to 15 years and
a fine of up to $50,000.
IMPROVEMENTS OF THE EDWARDS/LEAHY BILL OVER PREVIOUS FBI PROPOSALS
The Digital Telephony legislative proposal was first offered in 1992
by the Bush Administration. The 1992 version of the bill:
* applied to all providers of wire or electronic communications
services (no exemptions for information services, interexchange
carriers or private networks);
* gave the government the explicit authority to block or enjoin a
feature or service that did not meet the requirements;
* contained no privacy protections;
* contained no public process for determining the capacity
requirements;
* contained no government reimbursement (carriers were responsible
for meeting all costs);
* would have allowed remote access to communications by law
enforcement, and;
* granted telecommunications carriers only 18 months to comply.
The Bush Administration proposal was offered on capitol hill for
almost a year, but did attract any congressional sponsors.
The proposal was again offered under the Clinton Administration's FBI
in March of 1993. The Clinton Administration's bill was a moderated
version of the original 1992 proposal:
* It required the government to pay all reasonable costs incurred by
telecommunications carriers in retrofitting their facilities in
order to correct existing problems;
* It encouraged (but did not require), the Attorney General to consult
with telecommunications industry representatives and standards
bodies to facilitate compliance,
* It narrowed the scope of the legislation to common carriers, rather
than all providers of electronic communications services.
Although the Clinton Administration version was an improvement
over the Bush Administration proposal, it did not address the
larger concerns of public interest organizations or the
telecommunications industry. The Clinton Administration version:
* did not contain any protections for access to transactional
information;
* did not contain any public process for determining the capability
requirements or public notice of law enforcement's capacity needs;
* would have allowed law enforcement to dictate system design and
bar the introduction of features and services which did not meet
the requirements, and;
* would have allowed law enforcement to use pen registers and trap and
trace devices to obtain tracking or physical location information.
**************************
Locating Relevant Documents
** Original 1992 Bush-era draft **
ftp.eff.org, /pub/EFF/Policy/FBI/Old/digtel92_old_bill.draft
gopher.eff.org, 1/EFF/Policy/FBI/Old, digtel92_old_bill.draft
http://www.eff.org/pub/EFF/Policy/FBI/Old/digtel92_old_bill.draft
bbs: +1 202 638 6120 (8N1, 300-14400bps), file area: Privacy - Digital
Telephony; file: digtel92.old
** 1993/1994 Clinton-era draft **
ftp.eff.org, /pub/EFF/Policy/FBI/digtel94_bill.draft
gopher.eff.org, 1/EFF/Policy/FBI, digtel94_bill.draft
http://www.eff.org/pub/EFF/Policy/FBI/digtel94_bill.draft
bbs: +1 202 638 6120 (8N1, 300-14400bps), file area: Privacy - Digital
Telephony; file: digtel94.dft
** 1994 final draft, as sponsored **
ftp.eff.org, /pub/EFF/Policy/FBI/digtel94.bill
gopher.eff.org, 1/EFF/Policy/FBI, digtel94.bill
http://www.eff.org/pub/EFF/Policy/FBI/digtel94.bill
bbs: +1 202 638 6120 (8N1, 300-14400bps), file area: Privacy - Digital
Telephony; file: digtel94.bil
** EFF Statement on sponsored version **
ftp.eff.org, /pub/EFF/Policy/FBI/digtel94_statement.eff
gopher.eff.org, 1/EFF/Policy/FBI, digtel94_statement.eff
http://www.eff.org/pub/EFF/Policy/FBI/digtel94_statement.eff
bbs: +1 202 638 6120 (8N1, 300-14400bps), file area: Privacy - Digital
Telephony; file: digtel94.eff
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 12:19:01 MDT
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Understanding Data Communications" by Held
BKUNDTCM.RVW 940603
SAMS
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317-573-2500 317-581-3535
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317-581-3718 fax: 317-581-4669
"Understanding Data Communications", Held, 1991, 0-672-30005-2, U$24.95/C$31.95
The first edition of this book had six authors, and one could
therefore have understood some disjointedness between chapters. The
second and third editions, however, were revised by a single author.
Why, then, does this purported textbook seem more like a collection of
essays only loosely linked by a common topic?
The choice of topics for the chapters seems to be quite "application"
specific for a general text on data communications. The overview of
chapter one is the usual historical look at various electronic
communications systems. Chapter two, "Data Terminals", is quite
dated, as well as displaying a decided IBM bias in both terminology
and concepts. Chapter three is supposed to say something about
messages, but concentrates primarily on transmission media. This
chapter highlights the widely varying technical level in the book, as
well as the disorganization of the material. There are discussions of
attenuation and impedance, as well as lists of utilized frequencies --
but no discussion of keying or fibre optic functioning. Although the
definitions of keying and fibre optics are missing, certain details
are discussed -- which make little sense without the background.
Chapters four and five discuss modems. Again, the discussion is quite
anachronistic, and, again, the content fails to find a logical flow.
Keying is discussed in chapter four -- but only frequency shift
keying. Chapter five then details quadrature amplitude modulation --
which makes little sense without amplitude and phase shift keying.
(Actually, amplitude and phase shift keying were illustrated in
chapter four -- literally. The figures in the book are generally
clear when they list tables of information, but the graphical figures
are often incomprehensible.)
Chapters six to twelve are again mostly concerned with specific
applications; multiplexing, fibre and satellite, protocols, LANs,
packet data, network management and ISDN. The questions at the end of
each chapter are not only highly simplistic but also "multiple guess".
It would be difficult to use this as a comprehensive text for data
communications.
In spite of the flaws, however, there is some good information buried
here. The engineering and hardware aspects of data communications is
quite strong, and this tends to be a weakness in some other texts.
Therefore, while not perhaps suitable as the sole text for a data comm
course, it may see good use as an adjunct text or reference.
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1994 BKUNDTCM.RVW 940603. Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated mailing lists/newsgroups.
DECUS Canada Communications, Desktop, Education and Security group newsletters
Editor and/or reviewer ROBERTS@decus.ca, RSlade@sfu.ca, Rob Slade at 1:153/733
DECUS Symposium '95, Toronto, ON, February 13-17, 1995, contact: rulag@decus.ca
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 14:37:02 EDT
From: ralphradio! <RWOODS@npr.org>
Subject: ISDN/Switched 56 Billing Problem
This is a "HEADS UP!" to folks regarding a potential billing problem
for ISDN and switched 56 services. We recently received bills from our
long distance carrier (AT&T) that duplicated charges found on our
invoices from the local carrier (Bell Atlantic) for our ISDN and
switched 56 lines. The dates, times of day, locations, and telephone
numbers match up on the two bills, although, interestingly enough, the
LENGTH of the calls don't always match!
We received a letter from AT&T acknowledging an "error in processing"
regarding the discrepancies in length, but only today did they finally
acknowledge the double billing. It is worth noting that the AT&T rep
did not realize that "Accunet" was an AT&T product offering, but
rather insisted that Accunet must be some kind of reseller. Our Common
Carrier Manager damn near blew a fuse on that one!
I pass this along as a suggestion to you to check your carrier bills
<<carefully>>.
Ralph Woods, Manager, Satellite Operations
Distribution Division
National Public Radio phone: 202-414-2664
635 Massachusetts Avenue, NW FAX: 202-414-3035
Washington, D.C. 20001-3753 Internet: rwoods@npr.org
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Subject: Re: Personal ACD vs. Telemarketers?
From: drharry!aboritz@uunet.uu.net (Alan Boritz)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:56:33 EDT
Organization: Harry's Place - Mahwah NJ - +1 201 934 0861
bellcore!ctt.bellcore.com!quasar@uunet.uu.net (Laurence R. Brothers)
writes:
> I want a device to do the following:
> * Intercept incoming call and not pass ring to phone.
> * Play message: "If this is a personal call press 1 now, otherwise
> hang up."
> * Hang up in 10 seconds if 1 is not pressed.
> * If 1 is pressed, ring the phone.
> Basically my goal is to preempt all non-personal calls so that I don't
> even know I'm being called.
You must be one of those Bellcore people that assumed that just
because a cellular phone's ESN was "buried within" the equipment that
no one would have the nerve to intercept it off the air and clone it.
<grin>
Telemarketers didn't earn their nickname, "telesleaze" for nothing.
Anyone who bothers to call you to pitch something won't be the slightest
bit deterred by the "dial 1" message. Most of these obnoxious morons will
push any buttons, or tell you, or your secretary, just about anything
to get you on the phone. However, you WILL eliminate all incoming
calls from anyone who is not calling from a fully-functional touch-tone
phone.
We get lots of telemarketer calls in my office, most of them stock and
phony investment pitches. Easiest way to deal with them is to either
hang up on them if they won't identify themselves and from where
they're calling before speaking to the requested party, or let them
start their pitch and put the phone down until you hear dialtone.
Rude telesleaze that think we have nothing more important to do with
our day but to listen to their pitches deserve the rudest treatment in
return.
Alan
aboritz%drharry@uunet.uu.net or uunet!drharry!aboritz
Harry's Place (drharry.UUCP) - Mahwah NJ USA - +1-201-934-0861
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Date: Wed, 17 Aug 94 07:15:56 EDT
From: mark@legend.akron.oh.us (Mark E Daniel)
Subject: Re: Personal ACD vs. Telemarketers?
[Person wants a device that answers the phone and says press 1 for
personal calls.]
Maybe I missed something (like the 1 was just an example) but what's
to stop a smart ass telemarketer from pressing 1 and annoying you
anyway?
Mark E Daniel (Loving SysOp of The Legend BBS)
Inet: mark@legend.akron.oh.us medaniel@delphi.com (Direct INet)
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Nothing will stop such a person from
punching whatever buttons are required to get you on the phone. Telling
them specifically to punch a button (if thus and so) is an open invi-
tation for anyone to punch the buttons. The original correspondent needs
to have a secret code *which only his friends know about to start with*
which is not announced on the recording. That's the way my 800 number
that I got from MyLine works: If you press the proper code number during
the greeting your call gets automatically forwarded to where I am at;
otherwise you go to voicemail. The thing is, I don't tell the caller
that ahead of time -- they have to know about it. MyLine is a very good
800 service with user-defined forwarding of incoming calls, voicemail and
other nice features. PAT]
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From: genghis@ilces.ag.uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman)
Subject: Re: Personal ACD vs. Telemarketers?
Date: 17 Aug 94 14:12:09 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
This system has one very large flaw: You rely on the telemarketing
slime being HONEST enough to hang up instead of pressing the '1'. You
also rely on the telemarketing slime to be intelligent enough to
understand that your definition of a "personal call" excludes them;
they're more inclined to think that, since they are calling a person,
it is a personal call and therefore they are qualified to press '1'.
I have set up my PC-based voice mail card to do call screening in a
much more reliable fashion. All ringers on all phones are kept off at
all times. The PC answers all incoming calls, identifies the caller,
and takes some action based on the caller's identity and a caller
database which the system and I maintain. Callers can be identified
either by Caller*ID or via a passcode entered using the DTMF keypad.
Since my friends and family have been given the code, they can easily
get through to me. Telemarketing slime don't have the passcode, so
they can either be routed to the voicemail (where they can leave a
message) or dumped. Since the phones do not ring, I never know they
called unless they leave a message (which I'll only discover when I
specifically check for it). Calls that make it through are announced
by the screener using either a synthesized voice ("Incoming call from
Mom on line one..."), via a few musical notes played through the PC
speaker, or by illuminating/flashing an ordinary table lamp.
What you seek can indeed be done, with acceptable reliability and
convenience for all (well, all except the telemarketers ;-).
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I must say however what some people
will do do avoid a phone call is really amazing. Generally that kind
of paranoia where incoming calls are concerned -- that one must have
multiple layers of screening in the hope of avoiding someone wanting
to sell them something, rather than simply saying 'no' and replacing
the receiver -- seems to be very common on Usenet. Personally, I hope
all your mothers and family members and close friends all decide to
go back to using rotary dial, just to thwart you. PAT]
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 09:29:54 PDT
From: Gary Breuckman <puma@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Personal ACD vs. Telemarketers?
On Fri, 12 Aug 1994, Laurence R. Brothers wrote:
> I imagine an ACD could be trivially programmed to do this, but I also
> imagine it would be rather expensive for an ordinary consumer to
> purchase an ACD to serve just one line.
You can do this, at relatively low cost compared to an ACD, with a
fax/voice switch and an answering machine. I'm using a "ComSwitch
660" (from Command Communications, 10800 E. Bethany Drive, Suite 300,
Aurora CO 80014, (303) 750-6434) with a fax machine, but it could do
this.
Basically, the switch answers the call after one ring and listens for
FAX CNG tones or Reverse Modem Tones (a modem calling in Answer mode)
and if heard routes the call to the FAX or AUX outputs. It also
accepts two sets of touchtone codes and uses them to route to the FAX
or AUX outputs. Otherwise, it send the call to the PHONE and ANS MACH
connections, which are actually in parallel.
You can defeat the CNG or MODEM tone recognition, and can set the
touchtone codes to up to four digits each. Even after the call is sent
to the PHONE/ANS jack, it will still recognize the Touchtone or other
signals.
What I'm suggesting is that you let it answer calls, and send the call
to an answering machine. All this can be done without ringing any
bells, so far. The caller could enter the touchtone code now, or
could listen to the answering machine and enter the code. The
answering machine could take messages by default if you wanted it to,
or could be set to announce only.
Cost of the switch as about $80. Your choice of answering machines.
puma@netcom.com Gary Breuckman
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: But it isn't expensive enough and compli-
cated enough! Isn't there a terrible RISK that a telemarketer will sit
there and dial over nine thousand codes until he finds the one that will
(shudder!) allow him to get through to me so that I will (shudder!) have
to actually answer my phone and listen to him? grin .... PAT]
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CFP: Planning and Design of Broadband Networks - IEEE Conference (I Easson)
Multimedia on The NII (dorian@cais.cais.com)
Reprogramming Alphanumeric Pagers (LindaS1007@aol.com)
Residential In/Outbound Call Mix (Lynne Gregg)
Looking for Telecom Consumer Groups/Opinion Makers (Scott Caton)
Needed! OEM Modem Board (David Weiss)
Ericsson GH337 GSM Phone - Anybody Tried One? (Stephen Page)
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WAN and TLI (Peter Chandler)
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Scanner Ban and New Federal Law (Joe Hamelin)
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Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 11:55:00 -0400
From: ian (i.) easson <ieasson@bnr.ca>
Subject: CFP: Planning and Design of Broadband Networks - IEEE Conference
IEEE SYMPOSIUM ON PLANNING AND DESIGN OF BROADBAND NETWORKS
Montebello, Quebec, Canada
October 21 - 23, 1994
CALL FOR PARTICIPATION
The first IEEE Symposium on Planning and Design of Broadband Networks
will be held at Le Chateau Montebello, Montebello, Quebec, Canada on
October 21 - 23, 1994. The purpose of this symposium is to provide an
environment for the discussion and exchange of ideas concerning
computer-aided planning and design techniques and tools for broadband
networks. The symposium will include both invited and contributed
talks, panel discussions, and demonstrations of broadband network
planning and design tools. Abstracts of all presentations will be
distributed at the symposium but no proceedings will be published.
The symposium will address topics in the following areas: Challenges
in broadband network planning and design; Simulation methodologies and
tools for planning and design of broadband networks, and Tool applications
and deployment strategies.
Sponsors: IEEE BNR NT OCRI TRIO
Program
Friday October 21 1994
4:00 PM Registration
6:00 PM Welcoming Reception
7:30 Welcoming address (I. Ebert, AVP, BNR)
Saturday October 22 1994
7:30 AM Breakfast
8:00 AM Registration
8:45 AM Opening Remarks
9:00 AM Plenary Session (Speaker: Professor Erol Gelenbe, Department of
Electrical Engineering,
Duke University)
10:00 AM Coffee
10:30 AM Split into two parallel tracks, A and B.
Saturday Session A: ~Challenges in Traffic Management?:
10:30 AM ~Challenges in the Design of VP and VC Broadband Networks?,
A. Girard, INRS-Telecommunications, Canada
11:00 AM ~Traffic Modeling and Performance Analysis Issues in
Broadband Multimedia Networks?, I. Lambadaris, M. Devetsikiotis, and
A.R. Kaye, Carleton University, Canada.
11:30 AM ~A New Method for In-Service Estimation of Cell Loss QoS in
ATM Networks?, H. Zhu and V. Frost, University of Kansas, U.S.A.
Saturday Session B: ~Network Design Tools?:
10:30 AM ~CLASS: A Software Tool for the Design of ATM Networks?, M.
Ajmone Marsan, A. Bianco, R. Lo Cigno, and M. Munafo, Politecnico di
Torino, Italy.
11:00 AM ~An ATM Network Simulator for Design, Analysis, and
Simulation of Congestion Control Schemes?, A. Kolarov and G.
Ramamurthy, NEC, U.S.A.
11:30 AM ~ A Simulation Tool for Fast Resource Management in ATM
Networks?, S. Yazid and H.T. Mouftah, Queen?s University, Canada.
12:00 Noon Lunch
2:00 PM - 5:00 PM Continue with two parallel tracks, A and B
Saturday Session A: ~Network Engineering Algorithms?:
2:00 PM ~Routing in Multi-rate, Multi-point Broadband Networks?, A.
Rayes, Bellcore, U.S.A.
2:30 PM MENTOUR: An Algorithm for Designing Reliable High Speed
Networks, R. Cahn, IBM, U.S.A.
3:00 PM ~A Measurement-based Approach for the Traffic Engineering of
Broadband Networks?, C.A. Cooper, Bellcore, U.S.A.
3:30 PM Coffee
4:00 PM "A Resource-Based Paradigm for the Configuration of Broadband
Networks", A. Tunnicliffe, BNR, Harlow, UK.
4:30 PM "On the Design of Private Networks", A.B. Cheikh and A. Girard,
INRS-Telecommunications, Canada
Saturday Session B: ~Network Engineering Tools?:
2:00 PM ~BroadNET: A Broadband Network Engineering Tool?, M. Horwath
and R. Liquie, Bellcore, U.S.A.
2:30 PM ~Automated Design of Optimized Ring-Survivable SONET Transport
Networks?, W. Grover, M. MacGregor (TRLabs), J. Slevinsky (AGT), R.
Iraschko, J. Palm, and B. Christensen (U. of Alberta), Canada.
3:00 PM ~Multi-layer Network Analysis Tool?, D. Vercauteren and P.
Demeester, INTEC, Belgium.
3:30 PM Coffee
4:00 PM ~A Testbed for Dynamic Routing Over ATM Networks?, C. Liu,
H.T. Mouftah, and M. Sivabalan, Queen?s University, Canada.
4:30 PM ~A Flexible Broadband Network Planning Tool?, T.R. Vilmansen,
BNR, Canada.
7:00 PM Banquet
8:00 PM Keynote speaker
Sunday October 23 1994
7:30 AM Breakfast
9:00 AM One single track, ~Deployment Strategies?:
9:00 AM ~A Method for Efficient Implementation of an ATM Network
Design Environment?, C.C. Chen, A. Khalil, T. Dwight, MCI, U.S.A.
9:30 AM ~Multi-services-network Design?, J. Yan and M. Beshai, BNR,
Canada.
10:00 AM ~Key Factors that Influence the Placement of Broadband Related
Technology in the Network?, S. Morrison and K. Kobierski, BNR, Canada.
10:30 AM Coffee
10:45 AM Panel discussion: Future Trends in Planning and Design of
Broadband Networks
Information for Participants:
The Symposium will be held at Le Chateau Montebello, in the village of
Montebello, Quebec, October 21-23, 1994. Registration will be from
4:00 to 7:30 PM Friday 21 October, followed by a reception. Technical
sessions will start Saturday morning, October 22 1994, at 9 AM and run
through to 5 PM, followed by a banquet Saturday evening. Technical
sessions will continue on Sunday morning, October 23 1994, from 9 AM.
The Symposium will end by 1 PM Sunday.
Attendance will be strictly limited due to facility constraints, and
to enhance open discussions and interaction among the delegates.
Registration will be on a first come, first served basis, upon payment
of registration fees. The cutoff date for guaranteeing rooms at the
hotel is September 15.
Registration fees for the full Symposium are $650 for IEEE members and
$750 for non-members. Full registration includes the technical
sessions, lodging for the nights of 21/22 and 22/23 October, the
Friday evening reception (not dinner), Saturday breakfast, lunch and
dinner, and Sunday breakfast and lunch. Special registration for the
technical sessions only is also available at $250 for IEEE members and
$300 for non-members. No meals or accommodation are included with
special registrations.
Partners (spouses, friends, etc.) who accompany a delegate to the
Symposium may also be registered for $300. Partner registration
includes accommodation (double occupancy), meals and receptions, but
not the technical sessions. Partners are encouraged to take advantage
of Le Chateau Montebello's extensive recreational facilities.
Participants are expected to make their own travel arrangements. Rider
Meeting Services of Ottawa will be pleased to assist in booking air
travel, car rentals, and any additional hotel reservations required -
contact Debbie Horner at 613-780-1312, or 1-800-263-1318. Participants
should fly to either Ottawa or Montreal, and then drive (rent-a-car) to
Montebello (see below for directions). Driving distances in km from
various cities are: Ottawa (90), Montreal (130), Quebec (383), Toronto
(516), New York (738), and Boston (642).
Dress for the Symposium is casual. All events will be non-smoking.
Proceedings will be conducted in English. No formal proceedings will
be published, but individual speakers may make hard copy of their
presentations available on request.
Facilities:
Montebello is one of the prime resorts in Eastern Canada. Spring,
summer, and fall activities include: horseback riding, tennis, golf,
nature paths for walking and jogging, volleyball, badminton, swimming,
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From: dorian@cais.cais.com
Subject: Multimedia on The NII
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:51:42 PDT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service email info@cais.com
Does anyone know about how many video tapes are rented each week or
day? I want this as a projection of the number of movies and
multimedia services the NII would carry per day. Any other related
information would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Dorian dorian@cais.com
------------------------------
From: lindas1007@aol.com (LindaS1007)
Subject: Reprogramming Alphanumeric Pagers
Date: 17 Aug 1994 12:01:04 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
I am still unable to get any pager resellers to reprogram my
alphanumeric pager (clone of another one I own) It seems that they all
want you to purchase another pager from their company and sign up for
the additional service. Does anyone know of a way I can get the
capcode reprogrammed in the NJ area for a one time charge?
Thanks.
------------------------------
From: Lynne Gregg <lynne.gregg@mccaw.com>
Subject: Residential In/Outbound Call Mix
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 94 16:34:00 PDT
Does anyone have an idea as to the (%) mix between in/outbound calls
among residential phone users?
Thanks,
Lynne
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From: natstrat@dgs.dgsys.com (National Strategies)
Subject: Looking for Telecom Consumer Groups/Opinion Makers
Date: 17 Aug 1994 14:23:14 -0400
Organization: Digital Gateway Systems
I am trying to build a list of state and national consumer groups,
public opinion makers, and entrepreneurs concerned with the impact of
pending legislation and proposed regulations on emerging telecommunica-
tions technologies such as PCS, Wireless, and Telephony.
I am working with a Washington public policy consulting firm researching
telecom issues. I am asking for responses so that we may exchange
information regarding how the many pending federal regulations will
help or hinder the buildout of the information superhighway.
Thank you very much for any help.
Scott Caton
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From: d_weiss@news.delphi.com (D_WEISS@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Needed! OEM Modem Board
Date: 16 Aug 1994 18:59:45 -0000
Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation
I am looking for an OEM modem to sit as a daughter board in
a product we are developing:
V.32 or V.32bis
small form factor (6"square)
+24VDC perferred or any combo of +5, +12, -12 VDC
TTL or RS-232 output
FCC part 68 approved
Thanks in advance for you help locating vendors.
David Weiss Dataprobe Inc
Phone 201-967-9300
Fax 201-967-9090
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From: sdpage@andersen.co.uk (Stephen Page)
Subject: Ericsson GH337 GSM Phone - Anybody Tried One?
Organization: Andersen Consulting (UK Practice)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 07:49:09 GMT
Has anyone had any experience with the new Ericsson GSM phone which
has just been released on the UK market? (Perhaps it has been marketed
in other GSM countries already?) It looks tiny, but I would appreciate
any views on its performance.
Thanks.
------------------------------
From: macdonal@ug.cs.dal.ca (Joel Macdonald)
Subject: Modem Under Unix
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 10:18:27 -0300
I have been using a modem under Interactive UNIX and have been writing
C code to read and write to the com port that the modem is connected
to. In general, I simply open the device that the modem is connected
to, set some of the parameters in the termio structure associated with
that device, and then send and read modem responses and data using the
C read() and write() routines.
My C code is set up in a loop that simply reads one character at a
time from the device. Sometimes, however, the read() routine will not
read ALL of the characters that I am expecting to receive from the
modem. For example, when the modem connects to another modem, it sends
the following sequence to the device:
CONNECT 2400\r\n
But there are instances where I will not be able to read some of the
ending characters of the sequence. For example, sometimes I will only
be able to read:
CONNECT 2400\r
or CONNECT 240
etc.
I realize that this is a sketchy description of the problem but there
isn't alot more that I am able to tell you about it, except for the
fact that the problem tends to occur many times consecutively and then
it will disappear. Also, sometimes I can remedy the problem by
pausing for a short time before attempting to read, but this is not
consistent.
If anyone has experienced a similar problem or has advice/suggestions
I would appreciate hearing from you.
Thanks,
Joel
------------------------------
From: chandler@chatham.progress.com (Peter Chandler)
Subject: WAN and TLI
Date: 17 Aug 1994 15:32:48 GMT
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
I am trying to find TLI drivers which provide native WAN support
(X.25, Frame relay, SMDS, ...). Could you please forward me company
name, and phone numders.
Thanks,
Peter Chandler
------------------------------
From: lussierr@angst.umpi.maine.edu (Ron Lussier)
Subject: Wanted: Sources For Used Telecom Equipment
Date: 17 Aug 1994 19:38:28 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System
I am the Network Manager at a small liberal arts college that
is currently using an old AT&T System 25 PBX. We bought the system
used several years ago and it has served us well. I would like to
upgrade to a more modern PBX but I'm not in the market for anything
new.
Could someone supply me with the names a few companies that
sell used telcom equipment?
Thanks,
Ron Lussier lussier@ecology.coa.edu
College of the Atlantic Bar Harbor, ME
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You might want to read {Telecom Gear} on
a regular basis. That magazine is full of advertisements for used stuff.
I caution you though; buying used telecom stuff is a lot like buying a
used car; frequently the first owner got rid of it because it was giving
him troubles. You can't depend on the seller to always be forthright
about existing problems, and telecom equipment can be and usually is
sophisticated enough that obscure, yet important problems cannot always
be detected in the casual examination which comes before purchase,
especially if you are buying something that is being shipped to you from
elsewhere upon receipt of your certified check, etc. For small stuff it
is okay to buy used, but exercise extreme caution where larger equipment
is concerned. Someone blew it up; it could not be fixed; so they stuck
it in {Telecom Gear} to get rid of it for whatever they could get. PAT]
------------------------------
From: Robert Fieldman <robert_fieldman@wiltel.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 94 06:12:00 -0500
Subject: Help Needed With NTT abbreviations
Hello,
Does anyone know what the following NTT abbreviations mean in relation
to an SS7 Network implementation:
ZC
IGS
IC
I have run across them and do not have a clue.
Thank you,
robert_fieldman@wiltel.com
8665 New Trails Drive
The Woodlands, Texas 77831
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This is a good time to remind readers of
a service provided by the Telecom Archives. Several glossaries are on
file there and they can either be pulled using traditional anonymous ftp
or similar services. In addition, the glossaries can be searched using
the Telecom Archives Email Information Service on an interactive basis
by using the command GLOSSARY <argument> in your mail to the archives.
For a help file on using the Telecom Archives Email Information Service
just write and ask. I will probably put a copy of the help file here
in the Digest soon. PAT]
------------------------------
From: bigfoot@pro-gallup.cts.com (Darren McDaniel)
Subject: Locating Someone Using the Information Superhighway
Organization: ProLine [pro-gallup] BBS +1 505 722 9513 24hrs
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 94 03:55:38 MDT
Does anybody have any ideas on how I can go about locating someone who
is currently in the Army or Army Reserve via the "Information
Superhighway" I am limited to E-mail so any info would be greatly
appreciated.
Thank you,
Darren McDaniel
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I guess what we need to find out is if
the Fort Benjamin Harrison Universal Locator is on line or not. Fort
Benjamin Harrison is located down in southern Indiana. It is an Army
base, but has the additional assignment of maintaining active records
on military personnel around the world. I know you can call them on
the phone and they will do lookups for you. Any of our readers using
a .mil address know the correct way to access this, if any? PAT]
------------------------------
From: joeh@connected.com (Joe Hamelin)
Subject: Scanner Ban and New Federal Law
Date: 17 Aug 1994 10:27:20 -0700
Organization: Connected INC -- Full Server Internet Provider (tm)
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This originally appeared in a Usenet
newsgroup; the original was not here in the Digest. Joe Hamelin thought
the discussion there merited some coverage here. PAT]
Richard Crisp came off saying that::
: SECTION 9. FRAUDULENT ALTERATION OF COMMERCIAL MOBILE RADIO
: INSTRUMENTS.
: (a) Section 1029(a) of title 18 is amended by striking the word
: "or" at the end of subparagraph (3) and adding the following new
: subparagraphs:
: "(5) knowingly and with intent to defraud uses, produces, traffics in, has
: control or custody of, or possesses a telecommunications instrument that
: has been modified or altered to obtain unauthorized use of
: telecommunications services; or
This would seem also to include: ham radios used to access autopatches
without authorization, VHF & UHF transceivers used to access SMR
("answer back pagers"), telco IMTS (old style mobile phones), cordless
(49Mhz) phones used to access another's line, a lineman's butt set
used in an unauthorized manner, a cheap phone plugged into the wrong
jack, etc.
This would seem to clarify and extend the concept of access devices as
the law was written to for credit cards. In 1987 it was first used to
convict 4 persons who were phreaking Sprint with C=64's (I was the
person that designed and built the "access device making equipment")
Ever wonder why the telco's give you that mostly useless plastic card,
so that the credit card laws would more clearly apply to toll fraud.
: "(6) knowingly and with intent to defraud uses, produces, traffics in, has
: control or custody of, or possesses (i) a scanning receiver or (ii)
: hardware or software used for altering or modifying telecommunications
: instruments to obtain unauthorized access to telecommunications services."
The key word here is INTENT. The rest of the section is just a
helpful hint to the U.S. Attorney on which section to charge the
defrauder under. Any sharp object can be used for "altering of
modifying" and as noted above, this is worded so that even a standard
telephone (wire type) could apply IF used in a defrauding manner, and
that even without modifacation.
: Notice how this outlaws cellular capable scanners: now mere possession
: is outlawed if this silly bill makes it into law.
WRONG! The prohibition aganst retail sale of scanners with cellular
open is covered under EPCA. This law in and of itself does not
address such. If such scanners (tv's, service monitors, etc.) are
used in a scheme to defraud a telco service provider then they would
apply just as much as your soldering iron you used to remove diode 11
with.
: Of course with a "silly Bill" in the White House, I wouldn't be
: surprised if it does get enacted.
I very much doubt that Mr. Clinton has much to do with this, he seems
to be too busy defending himself with "unauthorized use of baby making
equipment" :) If there is a person in the White House that may have a
hand in it look at Al Gore. My guess is that the telco's and the
Secret Service (they hunt down phreakers, not the FBI) saw that the
law as exists is outdated and not in keeping with current tech. I
know that in my case it took them about a year or so to find a law to
charge me with and a judge that would be willing to go through with it
(Hon. Alan Edgar, Eastern Div, Tennessee).
In closing, I'll say that if you are going to get busted by the feds,
make sure that you get busted by the Secrect Service. They are the
most intelligent and professional of all the branches. My only complaint
was thier holding a .44 to my head and telling me "don't touch the keyboard".
: "(7) the term 'scanning receiver' means any device or apparatus that can be
: used to intercept a wire or electronic communication in violation of
: chapter 119 of this title."
As in (6) above, "knowingly and with intent to defraud" applies. Everything
that is covered in this amendment to 18 USC 1029 is now illegal activities.
This just consolodates a hodge-podge of mostly applicable laws into
one that covers the telco topic nicely. I would rather see the law
makers (and being law makers they are going to do just that :) clean
up the code books without making anything new illegal than start
really making new laws that effect our freedom.
(my personal feeling is that we should be able to elect an equal number
of law unmakers to law makers, something like a zero law growth plan.)
Joe Hamelin KB7WAI | tampico@teleport.com
Tampico, Washington | joeh@connected.com
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Companies Protest Illinois 630 Overlay (Greg Monti)
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Cellular Phone Use in Emergencies (Paul Thompson)
GTE and "The World Class Network" (Nigel Allen)
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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 11:01:31 EDT
From: Greg Monti <GMONTI@npr.org>
Subject: Companies Protest Illinois 630 Overlay
The newsletter {Communications Daily} is reporting in its August 22,
1994 edition that the Federal Communications Commission is asking for
comments on whether it should halt numbering changes proposed by
Ameritech in Illinois. This is the first I've seen of this plan:
Ameritech is considering not splitting the landline area of existing
code 708. Instead, they are considering moving all wireless services
in 708 and 312 areas to the new 630 area code.
Apparently, Page Mart, Paging Network and MobileMedia Communications
have filed a request for declaratory ruling with the FCC saying they
feared Ameritech's plan would hurt their business. These wireless
carriers would have to give back their 708 numbers and move to 630.
They claim that they and their customers would suffer "irreparable
harm" if they are forced to change phone numbers. I wonder if these
companies have ever read that tariff excerpt in the front of their
phone directory which says, "You have no property rights in your phone
number..."
The article notes briefly that New York City already has a wireless
area code overlay (917) and that Los Angeles is considering one (562).
Comments are due to the FCC by September 16, 1994.
Greg Monti, Tech Mgr, FISPO, Distribution Division
National Public Radio Phone: +1 202 414-3343
635 Massachusetts Av NW Fax: +1 202 414-3036
Washington, DC 20001-3753 Internet: gmonti@npr.org
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: All that would change is the area code
of the cellular/pager device, not the number itself. In other words if
your cellular number was 708-234-5678 it would become 630-234-5678.
Everything would continue to be treated as a local call (within whatever
local band area the caller is in) as before. I think the precedent
was set a few years ago when the same carriers had to be changed (but
then on a geographic boundary basis rather than class of service basis)
from 312 into 708. PAT]
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 94 15:33:41 GMT
From: Carl Moore <cmoore@ARL.MIL>
Subject: Re: Companies Protest Illinois 630 Overlay
So what would those protesting companies do regarding the crowding in
present area 708? I take it those "wireless" services do get incoming
calls, so if those services go to area code 630, some people will have
to send out word to those who call them.
You also notice that the wireless overlays (who else has used the nice
and short "wireless" term so far?) are coming in the biggest metro
areas. 917 in New York, proposed 562 in Los Angeles, and proposed 630
in Chicago; also, 281 in Houston area could be an overlay, and Houston
passed Philadelphia many years ago to become the 4th largest U.S.
city. There is no overlay currently planned for Philadelphia, which
is staying in 215 area during the 215/610 split, now in permissive
mode.
------------------------------
Date: 22 Aug 1994 01:05:58 CDT
From: Paul Thompson <THOMPSOP@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu>
Subject: Cellular Phone Use in Emergencies
The following is an excerpt of a discussion of cell-phone use during
emergencies which I encountered on a EMT/Paramedic discussion group.
I do not place a great deal of trust in the rantings of the
paramedic/EMT group having found from personal experience that these
types tend to issue pronouncements on many matters with knowledge
optional, however,
(Sorry, personal bias leak...:-) )
I do not recall hearing a discussion of any such service as described
in the following quotes any time in the last few years' in TELECOM
Digest, and wonder to what extent this information is true and how
much of the country might offer such a service.
=================
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 21:17:00 GMT
Subject: Cell Phones during a disaster
This message is for Cellular users who utilize their phones for
emergency use, such as law enforcement, fire, or emergency medical
personell. This message is intended only for these users, and may
result in an interruption of cellular telephone service for persons
utilizing this information for other than its intended purpose.
Did you know, that, like electricity or regular telephone service,
that CELLULAR TELEPHONE SERVICE has also set up an emergency network
plan for cellular telephone users commonly termed as a ROTATING
BLACKOUT. What ROTATING BLACKOUT does is assures that the cellular
system is capable processing calls on a priority basis to prevent
overload of the cellular network. What does this mean to the Sheriff
or Police Officer who carries his personal phone as backup
communications to his MDT or radio?
Plenty.
Cellular systems utilize a programming code known as a access overload
class. A mark in the programming that designates the units ROTATING
BLACKOUT period. In the event of system overload, such as, an earthqua
that cripples a portion of the cellular system, the remaining portion
willl compensate by denying access to all phones on a rotating basis.
This method assures access by certain users, while denying access to
other users, or, the general public, on a rotating basis.
If you utilize your phone for emergency services, and would like to
know the proper program setting for your cellular phone, contact your
local cellular company or cellular service dealer.
VERIFICATION/ ID of emergency services personnel will be identified
prior to any request for priority being processed.
Don't get caught with your phone not working in an emergency situation
-----------------------------
(someone else then continues the thread with this reply)
Michael, who ever posted this message is presuming alot. I don't know
where you got it, but I have had EXTENSIVE experience in this area.
Access Overload is a two digit code that may be programmed into the
phone for assigning the next open channel. Presently there are NO
standards to judge who should have access. I was given access overload
codes by Ameritech here in Illinois and then they were pulled after
the Plainfield Tornado Disaster. I met with both Cellular One and
Amritech, but their legal counsel have decided not to provide any
access overload for this reason. There is no standard to say that a
man having an arrest in his car is less of an emergency LEGALLY than a
medic with an ALS call. Most people who have been misled that they
have this feature programmed into their phone are treading dangerous
ground if they trully expect access during a major event.
Paul --THOMPSOP@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
[Usual disclaimers]
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 15:35:10 -0400
Subject: GTE and "The World Class Network"
From: ndallen@io.org (Nigel Allen)
Organization: Internex Online (io.org)
GTE is now calling its fiber-optic network The World Class Network,
which ought to amuse some of its telephone subscribers.
A GTE advertisement in the August 8 issue of {Communications Week}
says: "For more information and your free copy of The World Class
Network interactive disk, call 1-800-GTE-4WCN. Or access our
information with your computer by dialing 1-800-GTE-4927."
Nigel Allen, Toronto, Ontario, Canada ndallen@io.org
------------------------------
From: blarrib@netcom.com (Bob Larribeau)
Subject: CIUG ISDN Conference
Organization: Consultant
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 23:47:36 GMT
The California ISDN Users Group is going to hold its second conference
on November 9 & 10 at the San Jose Hyatt. The conference fee will be
$80. It will be called "Using ISDN to Navigate the Information
Superhighway". It will focus on higher performance applications and
will include discussions of how ISDN fits with other emerging
technologies like Frame Relay, SMDS, and ATM. Sessions will be held
on:
Equipping your network for ISDN work-at-home
International ISDN applications
ISDN and the Internet
Private ISDN networks
Email me your post office address and I will see you receive a flyer
in September. A more detailed announcement will be posted later.
Bob Larribeau Consultant
San Francisco blarrib@netcom.com
------------------------------
From: blarrib@netcom.com (Bob Larribeau)
Subject: ISDN Market Research
Organization: Consultant
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 23:48:08 GMT
I am doing market research on the uses of ISDN in small locations or
small locations of larger organizations. I am looking for sites with
less than about 50 telephones. I am interested in the full range of
applications -- voice, data, and video.
I have been working in ISDN for nearly nine years. I will be happy to
share that experience with the people I talk to.
If you fit the description and would like to participate in this
survey, please email me your name, company, and phone number. Include
a date and time over the next two weeks when it will be convenient for
me to call you.
Thanks for your help.
Bob Larribeau Consultant
San Francisco blarrib@netcom.com
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 00:03:07 MDT
From: Rob Slade <roberts@decus.ca>
Subject: Book Review: "Internet Primer" by Lawley/Summerhill
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A primer is supposed to be a short introduction to a topic, and does
not need to go into a lot of depth. Generally, a primer is intended
for a naive audience. In some cases, however, an audience can be
specified, as is the case with this book, and then one expects the
material to start at a somewhat higher level of sophistication.
Therefore, it may come as a shock to information professionals to
learn, around about chapter three, that the authors intended all along
to address the "Key-Pressing End User". (One's confidence in the
level of the book is not bolstered by the authors' admission,
immediately thereafter, that they are, themselves, "end users without
formal technical training.")
Chapter one defines the Internet in, as is becoming all too common,
historical, contractual and legislative terms, rather than technical
or functional ones. It is also highly US-centric, as is the list of
Internet providers in chapter two which purports to be an overview of
current networks. (The "currency" is questionable as well: the public
access UNIX list is supposed to date from December of 1991, which is
old enough, but contains listings of sites dead almost a year before
that date.)
Chapter three contains discussions of levels of connectivity, text
file formats and data compression which are great for the novice user.
Dealing with technical concepts as it does, though, it also
demonstrates the greatest concentration of fundamental conceptual
errors I can recall seeing in one place. These mistakes are not just
implied by a rather silly example of the mail being delivered by
packet switch methods, but are made outright in statements that
packet-switching has no value in low speed connections. The Internet
RFC (Request For Comments) process of distributed work is described in
traditional and very formal terms. The client/server model is stated
to be "more sophisticated" than SMTP, ftp and telnet -- all of which use
and rely on client/server. The numeric IP addresses are described as
"four octets separated by a single period" and ranging from, "1.1.1.1
(1x8) through 256.256.256.256 (32x8)," which is not only incorrect,
but completely incomprehensible. Perhaps the less said about the
coverage of Kermit, OSI, UUCP, and so forth, the better. Even the
"good bits" suffer at times: the section on text file formats dwells
excessively on EBCDIC, and the section on "binary to text" conversions
refers solely to the Mac BinHex format, rather than the more common
unencode. (Later on one finds that the only desktop client software
mentioned is for the Macintosh. Shall we guess what computers the
authors have?)
Chapter four, on applications, is much better. While brief, and
missing a conceptual framework, the descriptions nevertheless manage
to provide some practical detail without getting bogged down in
program specific minutiae. The authors miss the distinction between
"moderating" and "digesting" a mailing list, and advise looking at
"smileys" at a 45 degree angle. (To be fair, this last could be more
due to mathematical, than network, ignorance.) The list of network
resources in chapter five is well chosen. Chapter six, however,
entitled "Policy Issues," while it does cover some interesting ground,
appears to be more of a long editorial going ... nowhere.
Mecklermedia has made a strong push to be a major publisher on
Internet topics, both in terms of books and serial publications.
Their production of a book of this dubious quality is therefore odd.
There are interesting points, particularly for the network trainer.
This should not, however, be a "sole source" book, *particularly* for
the information professional.
copyright Robert M. Slade, 1994 BKINTPRM.RVW 940607. Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated newsgroups/mailing lists.
DECUS Canada Communications, Desktop, Education and Security group newsletters
Editor and/or reviewer ROBERTS@decus.ca, RSlade@sfu.ca, Rob Slade at 1:153/733
DECUS Symposium '95, Toronto, ON, February 13-17, 1995, contact: rulag@decus.ca
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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 94 07:53:06 PDT
From: R. Jagannathan <jagan@csl.sri.com>
Reply-To: <jagan@csl.sri.com>
Subject: ISLIP 94 (Symposium on Lucid and Intensional Programming)
ISLIP '94
7th INTERNATIONAL SYMPOSIUM ON LUCID AND INTENSIONAL PROGRAMMING
PROGRAM ANNOUNCEMENT
STARTS Monday September 26th at 9 AM;
Please be there by 845 AM.
ENDS Tuesday September 27th midday
WHERE: At SRI International, 333 Ravenswood Avenue, Menlo Park, California.
A building, Conference Room B
TALKS (listed by author in alphabetical order;
order to be decided at start of symposium)
Isomorphisms between Two Groups: An Experiment in Program
Synthesis and Transformation
F. Asfandiari and C. T. P. Burton
Multidimensional Declarative Programming, the Book
Ed Ashcroft
Object-oriented Implementation of Intensional Languages
W. Du
Objectflow - Adding Objects to GLU
W. Du and Tony Faustini
Adding Eagerness to Eduction
R. Jagannathan
Standard Cell Designs for Hardware Synthesis with Lucid Operators
Abhay Kejriwal and Ben Huey
Prescription for Modelling Time in Databases
Mehmet Orgun
A Visual Programming Environment for GLU
Dhanraj Rajender and Tony Faustini
Developing Scientific Applications in GLU
Pushpa Rao and R. Jagannathan
TBA
Bill Wadge
Observations on Spreadsheet Languages and Dataflow
Alan G. Yoder and David L. Cohn
An Object-Oriented Visual Dataflow Language
Da-Quian Zhang, Sute Lei, Kang Zhang
HOW TO GET TO SRI:
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PARKING:
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From: jonathan@nova.decio.nd.edu (Jonathan Bradshaw)
Subject: Re: Personal ACD vs. Telemarketers?
Date: 22 Aug 1994 00:12:22 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Reply-To: Jonathan.M.Bradshaw.9@nd.edu
> to have a secret code *which only his friends know about to start with*
> which is not announced on the recording. That's the way my 800 number
> that I got from MyLine works: If you press the proper code number during
> the greeting your call gets automatically forwarded to where I am at;
> otherwise you go to voicemail. The thing is, I don't tell the caller
> that ahead of time -- they have to know about it. MyLine is a very good
> 800 service with user-defined forwarding of incoming calls, voicemail and
> other nice features. PAT]
Pat, what services/costs does MyLine provide?
Jonathan Bradshaw | E-Mail is: Jonathan.Bradshaw@nd.edu | Packet: N9OXE@N0ARY
TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: MyLine is a truly fantastic service. It is
a user-forwardable 800 number and calling card combination. They give you
a personal 800 number which is always answered by their computer with a
greeting in your own voice. The typical greeting says 'please stand by
while your call is transferred to me'. What happens then depends on you.
Using your security code you program the system (change it whenever you
want) to send routine calls to the number of your choice, with a fallback
to voicemail on busy/no answer if desired. You select a 'priority code'
which the caller can punch in during the greeting to override the transfer
as described above and instead forward the call to a second number of your
choice; again falling back to voicemail if desired. You can elect to have
all calls go direct to voicemail if you wish, or none at all. If you prefer
you can program in your own third number to be used as a fallback if (1)
and (2) don't answer. Your opening greeting might also say something like
"I am staying at the Hilton Hotel, when the operator answers ask for room
1234". Then the call would be transferred to the hotel switchboard.
Until recently the only user programmable 800 number system I am aware of
was the one provided by Cable and Wireless and you had to call a separate
number for the purpose of manipulating your 800 number. With MyLine, your
one number does it all. When your greeting in your own voice answers you
just press in your own (itself programmable and changeable) security code
and instruct the system what to do with your 'routine', 'priority' and
'fallback on busy/no answer' calls; i.e. to what number (or voicemail) you
want each type of call sent.
You can also use MyLine for outgoing calls. Just dial your 800 number,
enter your security code and wait for the voice prompt 'MyLine is ready'.
Then proceed to make outgoing calls as desired. Check your voicemail on
the same call, re-route the termination numbers as desired, etc.
The rates are lower than other 800 services. The basic fee is $8.50 per
month which gets you your personal number and forwarding. Incoming calls
are 25 cents per minute. Outgoing calls you make via MyLine are 55 cents
for the first minute and 25 cents each additional minute. If you want
MyLine's optional voicemail (you can use your own or an answering
machine instead if desired) then add $9.50 per month plus 15 cents per
minute of useage by persons leaving messages there. There are quite a
few other options including scheduled call forwarding, wake up service
and such. Some of these are included in the basic $8.50 monthly fee.
Billing is done to the credit card of your choice. For more information
or to place an order, call 800-549-3500 to speak with a representative.
I understand you can keep your exisiting 800 number if desired and simply
have it taken over by MyLine from your existing carrier. They have nice
printed, well documented material explaining how to use the system. Please
mention that you read about it in TELECOM Digest. PAT]
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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 00:29:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Personal ACD vs. Telemarketers?
From: Paul A. Lee </DD.ID=JES2CAOF.UEDCM09/@SMX.sprint.com>
Organization: Woolworth Corporation
In TELECOM Digest Volume 14 Issue 348, Alan Borwitz, Mark E Daniel,
Scott Coleman, and our Editor all took issue with the practicality of
Laurence R. Brothers' plan to screen telemarketing calls.
I have to agree that the "telesleaze", boiler room operator who spends
the day banging in numbers from a "sucker list" will probably not be
deterred by having to wait a few seconds and press one more button.
Indeed, reaching such a "high tech" screening measure might flash
dollar signs for such a sleazeball.
However, the vast majority of "junk" calls these days come from
massive telemarketing centers where hundreds of agents are fed
prospect calls from predictive dialing systems. Most of those systems
run sophisticated analysis software that detects ringback, receives
answer supervision, and -- most importantly -- analyzes voice signals
from the called phone, in order to determine when the call should be
presented to a sales agent and maximize agent productivity. (That's
why you'll often be greeted by a few seconds of silence when you
answer such a call, while your "hello" is analyzed and the call is
switched to an agent.)
Part of the audio analysis done by the software is to use cadence and
stress patterns to detect answering machines and intercept messages,
to prevent switching a non-productive call to an agent. It's *very*
likely that the canned announcement being proposed in Laurence's plan
would be sensed as a non-productive answer. The predictive dialer
would then drop the call without any clue as to how to break through
the screening measure and without ever involving a human at either
end.
Keep us posted, Laurence, and go for it!
Paul A. Lee Voice 414 357-1409
Telecommunications Analyst FAX 414 357-1450
Woolworth Corporation CompuServe 70353,566
INTERNET </DD.ID=JES2CAOF.UEDCM09/@SMX.sprint.com> <=PREFERRED ADDRESS*
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From: jmandel@carbon.denver.colorado.edu (Jan Mandel)
Subject: Re: Personal ACD vs. Telemarketers?
Date: 22 Aug 1994 10:23:41 -0600
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver
Mark E Daniel (mark@legend.akron.oh.us) wrote:
[Person wants a device that answers the phone and says press 1 for
personal calls.]
> Maybe I missed something (like the 1 was just an example) but what's
> to stop a smart ass telemarketer from pressing 1 and annoying you
> anyway?
Eliminating the dumb telemarketers would be benefit enough.
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Nothing will stop such a person from
> punching whatever buttons are required to get you on the phone. Telling
> them specifically to punch a button (if thus and so) is an open invi-
> tation for anyone to punch the buttons. The original correspondent needs
> to have a secret code *which only his friends know about to start with*
> which is not announced on the recording.
[rest deleted to save space]
The "push 1" would eliminate automatic dialers that will hang up if do
not sense a person picking up the phone, and still let personal calls
through.
I wish I could have my phone number listed again and not to suffer
from junk phone calls ...
Jan Mandel, Center for Computational Math, University of Colorado at Denver
jmandel@colorado.edu
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From: genghis@ilces.ag.uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman)
Subject: Re: Personal ACD vs. Telemarketers?
Date: 22 Aug 94 08:42:39 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
genghis@ilces.ag.uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman) writes:
> I have set up my PC-based voice mail card to do call screening in a
> much more reliable fashion.
[Description of my PC-based Voice Mail system omitted.]
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I must say however what some people
> will do do avoid a phone call is really amazing. Generally that kind
> of paranoia where incoming calls are concerned -- that one must have
> multiple layers of screening in the hope of avoiding someone wanting
> to sell them something, rather than simply saying 'no' and replacing
> the receiver -- seems to be very common on Usenet.
Now now, Pat. Remember your audience: the readers of your digest are
Telecom Professionals and Advanced Hobbyists. Tinkering around with
electronic gadgets is a hobby for us - paranoia has nothing to do with
it. Tweaking and adding neat features just for the fun of it is what
computer telephony is all about!
The fact that my little hobby has eliminated nearly all of the telemarketing
slime which used to disturb my meals and sleep is merely the icing on
the cake. ;-)
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From: Ed Ellers <edellers@delphi.com>
Subject: Re: Personal ACD vs. Telemarketers?
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 94 14:09:24 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I must say however what some people
> will do do avoid a phone call is really amazing. Generally that kind
> of paranoia where incoming calls are concerned -- that one must have
> multiple layers of screening in the hope of avoiding someone wanting
> to sell them something, rather than simply saying 'no' and replacing
> the receiver -- seems to be very common on Usenet. Personally, I hope
> all your mothers and family members and close friends all decide to
> go back to using rotary dial, just to thwart you. PAT]
It's easy to understand -- they simply don't want to have to pick up
the phone to say no. They just don't want to be bothered. No need
for "paranoia" here.
------------------------------
From: Henry Wertz <Henry@chop.isca.uiowa.edu>
Subject: Re: Personal ACD vs. Telemarketers?
Date: 22 Aug 1994 03:20:03 GMT
Organization: U of Iowa Panda System
Reply-To: Henry@chop.isca.uiowa.edu
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: But it isn't expensive enough and compli-
> cated enough! Isn't there a terrible RISK that a telemarketer will sit
> there and dial over nine thousand codes until he finds the one that will
> (shudder!) allow him to get through to me so that I will (shudder!) have
> to actually answer my phone and listen to him? grin .... PAT]
Okay ... what I do, I answer the phone. If it's a telemarketer,
I either listen (if it's something of any interest) or say "not
interested" and hang up. Do you have extra-militant telemarketers out
there or something? We only get one every couple days or less.
Is there a place you could write or phone to to get these
stopped? I know for junk mail, there is some place in Washington, DC
you can write to basically say "take me off the Junk Mail lists". I
think it's part of the Better Business Bureau.
So, can you phone a place for that? My modem line hasn't gotten
on any telemarketer lists yet 8-), but that would kind of suck if the
call waiting kept on cutting the modem out for guys selling vacuums or
something 8-) (I have one friend I voice with on the line too ... he
calls infrequently enough that the occasional modem cut-out isn't a
problem, but enough Call Waiting is kinda nice.)
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Subject: Re: Personal ACD vs. Telemarketers?
From: drharry!aboritz@uunet.uu.net (Alan Boritz)
Reply-To: uunet!drharry!aboritz@uunet.uu.net (Alan Boritz)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 94 15:05:45 EDT
Organization: Harry's Place - Mahwah NJ - +1 201 934 0861
genghis@ilces.ag.uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman) writes:
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I must say however what some people
> will do do avoid a phone call is really amazing. Generally that kind
> of paranoia where incoming calls are concerned -- that one must have
> multiple layers of screening in the hope of avoiding someone wanting
> to sell them something, rather than simply saying 'no' and replacing
> the receiver -- seems to be very common on Usenet.
I see more of it here (seriously), than in any unmoderated newsgroup.
Do you honestly believe that just because you ring my phone, that I
HAVE to talk to you? After a dozen or so telesleaze calls in one
morning, I'd find that opinion laughable, at best.
> Personally, I hope all your mothers and family members and close
> friends all decide to go back to using rotary dial, just to thwart
> you. PAT]
Ah, but then they couldn't operate your premium "Myline" service ...
aboritz%drharry@uunet.uu.net or uunet!drharry!aboritz
Harry's Place (drharry.UUCP) - Mahwah NJ USA - +1-201-934-0861
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I do not 'operate' MyLine. I am merely a
very satisfied customer of the San Luis Obispo based company, which is
a division of Call America. Anyway, rotary callers need do nothing when
dialing a MyLine number. The recording tells them to hold on while their
call is being transferred to me. PAT]
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 10:37:39 +0000
From: john (j.m.) clarke <jclarke@bnr.ca>
Subject: Re: Personal ACD vs. Telemarketers?
In a discussion about telemarketers on comp.dcom.telecom, PAT, in his
usual way, added this comment about how he avoids them:
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Nothing will stop such a person from
> punching whatever buttons are required to get you on the phone. Telling
> them specifically to punch a button (if thus and so) is an open invi-
> tation for anyone to punch the buttons. The original correspondent needs
> to have a secret code *which only his friends know about to start with*
> which is not announced on the recording. That's the way my 800 number
> that I got from MyLine works: If you press the proper code number during
> the greeting your call gets automatically forwarded to where I am at;
> otherwise you go to voicemail. The thing is, I don't tell the caller
> that ahead of time -- they have to know about it. MyLine is a very good
> 800 service with user-defined forwarding of incoming calls, voicemail and
> other nice features. PAT]
Note how he says that he gives out a personal code to let people reach
him.
One article later in the thread, someone else details how they have a
great setup, which uses Caller*ID to identify the caller, or a personal
code, and if they are unidentified, forwards them to voice mail. To
me, this simply allows numbers you will always accept calls from to
avoid the hassle of punching in the "secret" code. PAT didn't see it
that way (and of course, pointed it out):
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I must say however what some people
> will do do avoid a phone call is really amazing. Generally that kind
> of paranoia where incoming calls are concerned -- that one must have
> multiple layers of screening in the hope of avoiding someone wanting
> to sell them something, rather than simply saying 'no' and replacing
> the receiver -- seems to be very common on Usenet. Personally, I hope
> all your mothers and family members and close friends all decide to
> go back to using rotary dial, just to thwart you. PAT]
Note the clever slam on how paranoid the users of Usenet are.
Of course, I know this letter will hit the bit bin with all the other
articles that point out PAT's errors, but I thought I'd try.
John jclarke@bnr.ca
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There are a couple of important distinctions
you missed. In the original case, the caller -- albiet a telemarketer --
was using his nickle to place the call. You don't have to speak to him if
you don't want to, but at least it does not affect *your* phone bill. I
maintain in the case of an 800 number, the called party has a little more
at stake here and should have the right to manipulate the calls as desired.
The other point is I do not use the service to avoid telemarketers; I use
it to make sure I get the calls I want to recieve and (with the priority
code) those calls that are especially important to me. Where the original
correspondent said he was using his (no charge for incoming calls) line
to specifically screen out the junk calls, I say I am using my line which
requires me to pay for incoming calls to specifically divert desired calls
to me wherever I might be. Quite a difference. PAT]
------------------------------
From: dogar@coyote.cig.mot.com (Haroon H. Dogar)
Subject: Re: Personal ACD vs. Telemarketers?
Date: 22 Aug 94 18:34:47 GMT
Organization: Motorola Cellular Infrastructure Group
genghis@ilces.ag.uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman) writes:
> I have set up my PC-based voice mail card to do call screening in a
> much more reliable fashion. All ringers on all phones are kept off at
> all times. The PC answers all incoming calls, identifies the caller,
> and takes some action based on the caller's identity and a caller
> database which the system and I maintain. Callers can be identified
> either by Caller*ID or via a passcode entered using the DTMF keypad.
> Since my friends and family have been given the code, they can easily
> get through to me. Telemarketing slime don't have the passcode, so
> they can either be routed to the voicemail (where they can leave a
> message) or dumped. Since the phones do not ring, I never know they
> called unless they leave a message (which I'll only discover when I
> specifically check for it). Calls that make it through are announced
> by the screener using either a synthesized voice ("Incoming call from
> Mom on line one..."), via a few musical notes played through the PC
> speaker, or by illuminating/flashing an ordinary table lamp.
Which voice mail card do you use? Also, which sound card or
text-to-speech program do yu use? I've been trying to do something
similar for a while and the cheaper voice mail cards (National
Semiconductor Tyin 2000) don't support caller ID, and the text to
speech capabilities as well as the recorded sound playback
capabilities of the SoundBlaster are abysmal. What I wanted to do was
to either have a previously recorded message played for specific
numbers [mom's voice saying: "Haroon, this is your mother. Pick up
the phone!"] or a text to speech program announce the call ["Wynn is
calling from his car."] or a text to speech program which simply reads
the number or name from the caller ID information ["Incoming call from
708 555 ..."].
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I must say however what some people
> will do do avoid a phone call is really amazing. Generally that kind
> of paranoia where incoming calls are concerned -- that one must have
> multiple layers of screening in the hope of avoiding someone wanting
> to sell them something, rather than simply saying 'no' and replacing
> the receiver -- seems to be very common on Usenet. Personally, I hope
> all your mothers and family members and close friends all decide to
> go back to using rotary dial, just to thwart you. PAT]
I've been trying to design this feature because I don't want to set my
paints down to dry at an inopportune time and I see getting up to
check a caller ID box as defeating the whole purpose of call
screening. For me, the purpose is to avoid being disturbed when doing
something that requires all of my attention. If there's a call from
Mom, or I'm waiting for a specific call, I want to know when it comes
so that I can decide if I want to pick it up. Otherwise, (for gabby
close friends) :-) I can let the machine (voice mail) take a message.
I like the audible identifier part of the solution. To me, the
pass-code part seems like overkill too.
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End of TELECOM Digest V14 #350
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