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- TELECOM Digest Tue, 16 Jan 96 02:00:00 EST Volume 16 : Issue 19
-
- Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
-
- 888 for Toll-Free v. 88X Ring-Down Points (Mark J Cuccia)
- Alphanumeric Paging Software Shipping (David R. Coelho)
- Area Code Splits With Test Numbers From USWest (John R. Grout)
- Foreign Exchange Lines in Northern VA (GTE <-> Bell Atl) (Lee Sweet)
- TENTATIVE Labor Agreement Reached at Bell Atlantic (John Dearing)
- 900MHz Spread-Spectrum Devices Interfere (John Nagle)
- Re: Cellular Phone Called Simon (Al Testani)
- Flat-Rate Residential Telephone Service - Is End in Sight? (Lars Poulsen)
- NT SL-1 vs Meridian SL-1? (uswat@aol.com)
- Want to Interview AT&T'ers Who Took Buyout (Rob Gebeloff)
- Motorola 550 Cell Phone Problem (Mark Allen)
- Texas PUC Delays Implementation of 972/281 Areas (Charles Cremer)
- Call Screening Rejection Recorded Announcement? (Eric Tholome)
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- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 16:20:15 CST
- From: Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
- Subject: 888 for Toll-Free v. 88X Ring-Down Points
-
-
- For some 20+ years, the 88X codes have been used as `pseudo' area
- codes for identifying remote Manual ring-down points for billing
- purposes within the Bell System and other telcos within the North
- American network.
-
- The billing equipment used a six-digit code of the form 88X-XXX to
- identify specific V&H's associated with these remote rural locations.
- Customers could *not* dial these locations nor could the originating
- operator dial them. The originating `0' Operator (or post-divestiture
- AT&T operator from the US) would reach an inward or toll-station
- ring-down operator in a location closer to the desired party, by
- entering the NPA of that state/province (+0XX in some situations) +121
- or 181. (121 for Inward or 181 for a toll-station operator). The
- inward (or toll terminal) operator would actually connect to that
- particular location. From what I've been told, *some* of these
- settlements *might* have actually had internal local dialing among
- some 20 to 50 telephones using an *ancient* step-by-step switch, but
- calls to and from that `exchange' were not dialable by customers. Some
- of these settlements might have been some form of common party line,
- where 20 people shared a common wire, and there was a Bell or AT&T (or
- Canadian telco) operator to connect these people with the outside
- world. They could call each other by cranking a coded ringing pattern
- on a magneto or something.
-
- For billing purposes, *manual* toll-tickets would be *written* up and
- later entered into billing equipment using these 88X-XXX mark-sense
- codes, plus (usually) a default last four digits (XXXX) of `0000' (or
- maybe 0001, 0002 or the like).
-
- These remote points were usually oil drilling rigs, hunting lodges,
- fishing camps, mining centers, riverboat pilot centers, etc. There may
- have been one or two `telephones' at the remote point, but all calls
- to and from these points had to be *operator handled*. Many still
- exist in Nevada. They might have a directory entry of something like
- `Call Operator and ask for Mountain Lodge No.3' or the like. Calling
- these points from the US *might* be able to be handled by the Local
- Telco operator if the desired rural point is in the same LATA, but
- usually they were routed by AT&T operators `only'. (I don't think that
- Sprint or MCI operators even know that these locations exist).
-
- A numerical listing of these 88X-XXX points is included in some of
- Bellcore TRA's *rating* documents and products. I have a December 1994
- Bellcore TRA `Industry Numbering Plan Guide' (fiche only) which lists
- them. There is not any special rhyme or reason to many of the XXX
- assignments, but the 88X portion `seems' to have `some' pattern.
-
- 881, 882, 883, and 885 (884 was not used) were for remote settlements
- all over Mexico. 886 thru 889 were for the US (including Alaska),
- Canada, and some Caribbean locations. (Hawaii `seems' to have used 0XX
- and 1XX codes within their own 808 NPA for identifying these types of
- locations in that state. i.e. 808-0XX and 808-1XX). (880 was also not
- used in these 88X-XXX codes).
-
- When I first heard about the use of 888 as an additional special area
- code for toll-free service, I wondered as to *how* the ring-down
- points using 88X-XXX would be managed (since 888-XXX was used). And
- then later I read about the plan for 880 and 881 to be used for
- `caller agrees to pay' when calling US 800 (and 888) numbers from
- overseas, I again was curious as to the 88X-XXX ring-down points. (880
- isn't a problem since there was no use of 880-XXX from what I've been
- able to see).
-
- The monthly `INC' (Industry Numbering Committee) mailings I get from
- Bellcore had some mention that the industry billing forums should work
- at coming up with a *different* scheme as to identify non-dial rural
- points. It seem that there is not the best of communication of data
- between these industry forums or individuals who participate in these
- industry forums.
-
- The latest INC mailing (received Thursday) had more mention of these
- Non-Dial Toll-Points. A submission by an INC participant from Stentor
- (Canada) mentions that there could be conflicts if additional 88X
- codes were to be used for new uses. (877 is the next toll-free code to
- be used if 888 fills-up, and then 866 would be next if 877 fills up,
- etc. 882 would be used for caller-pays international to US 877
- numbers, 883 would be used for US 866 numbers, etc). The submission to
- the INC mentions that there could be conflicts if 883, 885, 886, 887
- or 889 were to be assigned at this time for other dialable uses. It
- suggests that these codes be `put-on-hold' until a solution could be
- worked out with the OBF (Ordering and Billing Forum) and the NOF
- (Network Operations Forum).
-
- It is also mentioned that there are about 1400+ such non-dial points,
- *half of which are in Canada*. And that these non-dial points are
- located in about five different states in the US, in addition to many
- such non-dial points in Mexico.
-
- I spoke on the phone this morning with the person from Stentor who
- raised this issue at the last INC meeting. He told me that there is
- *some* shuffling around of 88X-XXX billing identification codes for
- these non-dial points, particularly moving those within 888-XXX into
- other 88X codes, due to the impending use of 888 as the second special
- area code for toll-free service.
-
- BTW, it is also mentioned in this INC mailing that the Commonwealth of
- the Northern Mariana Islands has requested to be a part of the North
- American Numbering Plan, similar to Guam's request earlier. There will
- be discussions between the US and Canadian governments (and telco
- industry people) and representative from Guam and the CNMI. It was
- noted that the Northern Mariana's present country code (+670) might
- become its North American Numbering Plan area code. It would become
- +1-670 and the ITU assigned country code of 670 would become
- available, similar to Guam possibly moving from +671 to +1-671.
-
-
- MARK J. CUCCIA PHONE/WRITE/WIRE: HOME: (USA) Tel: CHestnut 1-2497
- WORK: mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu |4710 Wright Road| (+1-504-241-2497)
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-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: drc@ppt.com (david r coelho)
- Subject: Alphanumeric Paging Software Shipping
- Reply-To: sales@ppt.com
- Organization: Personal Productivity Tools, Inc
- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 22:07:07 GMT
-
-
- Los Altos Hills, Calif., January 12, 1995 -- PERSONAL PRODUCTIVITY
- TOOLS today announced the availability of version 2.4 of the
- ETHERPAGE(TM) alphanumeric paging solution for Unix workstations. With
- this release, ETHERPAGE is now available on workstations running the
- AIX operating system. ETHERPAGE is the first commercial product to
- provide an enterprise-wide alphanumeric paging capability for unix
- workstation networks. EtherPage provides exceptional robustness to
- insure that messages are delivered efficiently and without fail.
- Priced from $595 to $2195, the product is shipping now for SunOS
- 4.1.X, Solaris 2.x, HP-UX and AIX. EtherPage will work with most Hayes
- compatable modems, and utilizes industry standard protocols used by
- virtually all paging services.
-
- Features:
-
- Automatic generation of pages from email
- Easy integration with user written scripts/programs
- Easy integration with network monitoring such as SunNet Manager,
- HP Openview, Tivoli, Boole&Babbage, others
- Command line interface, and GUI interface, available for Openlook/Motif
- Pager aliases which allow messages to be sent to multiple pagers
- Extremely powerful filtering capabilities which allow messages to
- be sent to different pagers based on time of day, day of week, etc
- Automatic insertion of sender identification into messages
- Automatic suppression of duplicate messages
- Automatic splitting of long messages into multiple pages
- Automatic forwarding of messages between multiple servers
- Support for multiple concurrent modems
- User definable per paging service message size limits
- Automatic email confirmation
- Automatic truncation of messages
- Job logging and accounting
- User definable shell scripts with macro expansion for success/failed
- delivery
- User definable retry limits
- Robust handling of modem errors, phone line problems including busy,
- no answer
- Robust handling of paging service errors such as invalid pager id
- Error recovery including automatic email of problem report
- Job batching for rapid delivery of jobs in a single phone call
- Client-server architecture for centralized management
- UUCP style tty locking for shared tty/modem usage
- Symbolic configuration files for easy maintenance
- Support for IXO, TAP, PET protocols; Support for SNPP (RFC 1645)
- Support for touch-tone message delivery
- C application programming interface
-
- If you would like to evaluate EtherPage for 30 days, send email
- to sales@ppt.com or call (415) 917-7000.
-
-
- david r. coelho email: drc@ppt.COM
- personal productivity tools, inc
- 14141 miranda rd voice: (415) 917-7000
- los altos hills, ca 94022-2045 usa fax: (415) 917-7010
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: j-grout@glibm5.cen.uiuc.edu (John R. Grout)
- Subject: Area Code Splits With Test Numbers from USWest
- Date: 15 Jan 1996 22:35:17 GMT
- Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
- Reply-To: j-grout@uiuc.edu
-
-
- In Thursday, January 11th's {Wall Street Journal}, USWest published
- the following pending area code splits and associated toll-free
- numbers for PBX testing:
-
- Area Code Where Affected Permissive Toll-Free
- Date Test Number
- 520 Rural Areas of Arizona 10/21/95 (520)782-0100
- Flagstaff, Prescott, Yuma 6/30/96 ""
- Tuscon 12/31/96 ""
- 541 All but Portland Oregon 6/30/96 (541)276-0192
- 970 Northern and Western Colorado 1/14/96 (970)241-0022
-
- For more information, call USWest at (800)441-5516.
-
-
- John R. Grout Center for Supercomputing R & D j-grout@uiuc.edu
- Coordinated Science Laboratory University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: Lee Sweet <lee@datatel.com>
- Subject: Foreign Exchange Lines in Northern VA (GTE <-> Bell Atl)
- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 20:14:55 -0500
- Organization: Datatel, Inc.
-
-
- I am in the process of moving to Eastern Loudoun county (VA), which is
- (sigh!) GTE country. I work in Western Fairfax county (the nextmost
- easterly county, for those who aren't familiar with the Capital Area
- (USA) geography :-). It's a toll call from my new place to Fairfax.
- I was quoted $100 (or so)/month for a Bell Atlantic OR a GTE foreign
- exchange line that would put me into Fairfax (in essence, giving me a
- Washington Metro calling area line). (I need an unmetered location
- local to work for extensive dialup modem use.)
-
- Now, $100/month is certainly cheaper than several hours/night at
- $0.08/minute, but does this seem reasonable? I now live on the
- Chesapeake Bay, and pay $35/month for a Washington metro line, and am
- 50 miles further away. Go figure. Any comments? Is it mostly because
- of the GTE/BA boundary?
-
- And, BTW, so far, the GTE phone-people have been most helpful. I was
- pleasantly surprised; of course, after install things may change!
-
-
- lee@datatel.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: jdearing@netaxs.com (John Dearing)
- Subject: TENTATIVE Labor Agreement Reached at Bell Atlantic
- Date: 16 Jan 1996 00:06:59 GMT
- Organization: Philadelphia's Complete Internet Provider
-
-
- Early Friday, 1/12/96, Bell Atlantic announced that a tentative
- agreement had been reached with The Communications Workers of America
- (CWA) on "Common Issues" such as wages, benefits and employment
- security.
-
- Bargaining was continuing on Local Issues.
-
- The CWA represents some 34,000+ employees at Bell Atlantic and has
- been working without a contract for the past five months. The previous
- contract expired August 5th, 1995.
-
- No further details were announced at that time.
-
- I hope that our "long journey into night" is nearly over and we can get
- back to doing what we do best, "phone work".
-
- Speaking only as a member *of*, but not *for* CWA local 13,000. They
- speak for themselves. 8-)
-
-
- John Dearing : Philadelphia Area Computer Society IBM SIG President
- Email : jdearing@netaxs.com
- U.S.Snail : 725 Ripley Place, Phila PA 19111-2524 (USA)
- Voice Phone : +1.215.725.0103 (after 5pm Eastern)
-
-
- [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: When you have all the details of the
- new contract available and are free to discuss it, please write us
- again with a summary. PAT]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle)
- Subject: 900MHz Spread-Spectrum Devices Interfere
- Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 18:49:36 GMT
-
-
- I have both a Ricochet radio modem (see "http://www.metricom.com"
- for details) and a Southwestern Bell "Freedom Phone" model SST900.
- These are both 900MHz spread-spectrum devices, and, much to my
- disappointment, they do interfere with each other. The cordless phone
- gets random clicks, and the bandwidth on the radio modem drops as the
- cordless handset gets close to the radio modem. At 10', modem
- bandwidth drops by about half, and at 3', the link drops.
-
- I was expecting better performance from this technology. I wonder
- if it's because the Ricochet unit is a frequency-hopper and the
- cordless phone is (I think) a direct-sequence spread spectrum system.
-
- Other than that, the Ricochet unit works well. Bandwidth to the
- Internet runs about 10Kb/sec, although round-trip times are around
- 500ms. I'm in a suburban area, and my net traffic is making several
- radio hops via Ricochet's street-light mounted packet radios before it
- reaches a wired access point. Most of Silicon Valley now has little
- Ricochet boxes on street lights, offering a realistic alternative to
- PacBell and the cellular guys.
-
-
- John Nagle
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: ajt@emi.net (Al Testani)
- Subject: Re: Cellular Phone Called Simon
- Organization: EmiNet Domain Internet Services (407)731-0222
- Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 03:18:47 GMT
-
-
- sahfs@iafrica.com (S A Holstein Friesland Society) wrote:
-
- > Can anybody please help me in locating the manufacturer of a product
- > named Simon. It is a cellular phone that can handle electronic mail as
- > well as being a personal organizer.
-
- > Any information about this product will greatly be appreciated since
- > the name and features of the product is all I have.
-
- The product was designed by IBM, manufactured by Mitsubushi for IBM
- and distributed by BellSouth. I not sure it is on the market now.
-
- The unit was a cellular phone with a PC built into it. It did all of
- the PIM functions like address book, calendar, notepad, etc. and all
- of these fuctions were integrated with the cellular phone. It had
- phone paging and a pager card could be purchased to plug into it for
- complete paging functions. It did email and send and receive fax
- where you could either type in your fax or draw on the screen with
- images or markup a fax you had received. It had a touch sensitive
- screen with a computer generated qwerty keyboard as well as a unique
- predictive keyboard. Nice device ... I have one.
-
- If you need additional informaton, email me.
-
-
- Al Testani ============= Boca Raton, FL ============== ajt@emi.net
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: lars@silcom.com
- Subject: Flat-Rate Residential Telephone Service - Is End in Sight?
- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 96 16:38:45
- Organization: Silicon Beach - Business Internet Services
-
-
- While working on an article about various regulatory issues, I have
- come to the conclusion that the days of flat-rate residential
- telephone service are numbered. The best that we can hope for is an
- extra-deep discount rate for after-hours message units to residential
- subscribers.
-
- What has caused this, is the "Internet Phone" mania. Apparently the
- excitement over "free long-distance calls" has caused the FCC to
- wonder (again) if "value-added networks" aren't really similar to
- long-distance carriers. If the answer is yes, then Internet Service
- Providers may be mandated to pay the same access fees to the LECs as
- the IXCs have been paying all along. This would not only cost more
- than local message units, but it would also force the ISPs to measure
- and charge for connect time in order to recover these new costs.
-
- This development (which I learned about from an article by Brock
- Meeks) comes on the heels of Pacific Bell's proposal to eliminate free
- after-hours connect time from their Home ISDN tariff.
-
- How do other TELECOM readers feel about these developments?
-
-
- Lars Poulsen http://www.silcom.com/~lars/
-
-
- [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I have thought for a long time that it
- was just a matter of time until local unmeasured service would be gone
- everywhere. We lost it as such several years ago here. We still get
- a very small (by comparison to the old days) 'local calling area' where
- we pay a few cents per call regardless of how long the call lasts, but
- years ago we could have unlimited calling all over northern Illinois
- if we wanted it for a set fee per month. Illinois Bell dumped it about
- the time the early modem users (middle 1980's) started using what
- Bell called 'unlimited call pack' to make calls to the outer suburbs
- which lasted for hours to BBS lines. I think there will be various
- reasons given for its demise on a location by location basis, but I
- can't imagine there being any of it left by the year 2000. PAT]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: uswat@aol.com (Uswat)
- Subject: NT SL-1 vs Meridian SL-1?
- Date: 15 Jan 1996 19:52:15 -0500
- Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
- Reply-To: uswat@aol.com (Uswat)
-
-
- I have been trying to find out this for a while, but to no avail. I
- was wondering if anyone could tell me the differences between Northern
- Telecom's SL-1 and their Meridian SL-1. If I had some parts, how
- could I tell which belonged to which? How compatible are they?
-
- It appears that US West nor NT could not answer this. I thought at
- least NT could, but after several inquiries to several people there, I
- still have not received a response. Thanks ahead of time.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: gebelo@access.digex.net (Rob Gebeloff)
- Subject: Want to Interview AT&T'ers Who Took Buyout
- Date: 16 Jan 1996 04:52:31 GMT
- Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA
-
-
- This is Rob Gebeloff at {The Bergen Record}.
-
- We're looking to interview some AT&T employees who took the buyout,
- especially those who live in our readership area. If you can help
- out, drop me a note or call me at (201) 646-4313.
-
-
- Thanks,
-
- Rob
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: mallen@ee.gatech.edu (Mark Allen)
- Subject: Motorola 550 Cell Phone Problem
- Date: 15 Jan 1996 16:04:58 GMT
- Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
-
-
- I have a Motorola 550 flip cell phone which has the nasty habit of
- shutting itself off inappropriately (e.g., I will turn it on for
- standby calls, put it in my pocket, and later take it out of my pocket
- to find that it has shut itself off.) This problem seems to be
- independent of the battery condition (fully charged, partially
- charged) and even the battery itself (brand new battery has the same
- problem). It appears to be more related to mechanical stress on the
- phone itself.
-
- 1. Has anyone else had this problem?
-
- 2. I checked into getting the phone serviced, but the cost was
- prohibitive (e.g., 75% of the cost of a new phone without even knowing
- what the problem was or whether it could be fixed). If it's something
- as simple as a loose connection or cracked PC trace, I might be able
- to fix it myself if I can open up the phone. How is this done?
-
-
- Thanks,
-
- Mark Allen mallen@ee.gatech.edu
-
-
- [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This may sound silly, but you also
- might want to check and see if the phone has a 'time to sleep'
- register in it that is set for some very low period of time. For
- example, a Radio Shack (really Nokia of course) cell phone I had
- a few years ago had a 'feature' built into it where if the phone
- was not activated in some period of time (you set the number of
- hours in this register) then it shut itself off on the assumption
- you may have forgotten to do so. If you set it for zero, then
- the feature was de-activated. Any time you used the phone, even
- just to press keys on the keypad then the register was reset to
- the starting point again. Does your phone have this? PAT]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 15 Jan 96 23:02:01 EST
- From: Charles Cremer <71231.2206@compuserve.com>
- Subject: Texas PUC delays implementation of 972/281 areas
-
-
- Texas PUC delays implementation of Dallas and Houston area overlays
- (Condensed and paraphrased from an Associated Press article published
- in the {Houston Chronicle}.)
-
- On Wednesday, January 10, the Texas Public Utility Commission deferred
- a final decision on how to implement the 972 and 281 area plans until
- February 7th.
-
- The Commission cited the public's lack of information and lack of
- understanding as reason for the delay and scheduled three additional
- public hearings in each region for late January.
-
- The attorney representing SBC (Southwestern Bell Communications)
- expressed disappointment, saying that in a short time there may be
- no more numbers available for new service. There are fewer than 15
- available NPA's remaining in Houston's 713 area code and in Dallas'
- 214 area code.
-
- MCI and other companies hoping to become competitors in the local
- service market favor geographic splits, while SBC and businesses favor
- overlays. Overlays would allow customers to retain existing numbers,
- but would require users to dial 10 digits on most local calls.
-
- An administrative law judge has recommended a split in Dallas and an
- overlay in Houston.
-
-
- Charles Cremer <ccremer@fc.net>
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: tholome@francenet.fr (Eric Tholome)
- Subject: Call Screening Rejection Recorded Announcement?
- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 21:40:52 +0200
-
-
- I was wondering ...
-
- For those of you who can subscribe to some form of call screening,
- with which you can blacklist certain numbers, so that people calling
- from these numbers cannot get through to you anymore, what kind of
- recorded announcement does your telco send to the caller in that case?
-
- I guess it must be PC, but nevertheless clear enough so that the
- caller doesn't bother calling again. Something like "we're sorry but
- your call cannot be completed because the party you are calling does
- not wish to receive calls from your line anymore" I guess.
-
- I would like to see the exact words that the telcos use.
-
- Do they quote a phone number that can be dialed for assistance?
-
- What if the number was blacklisted by mistake?
-
- Thanks for any information,
-
-
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-
-
- [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: In the case of a specific number being
- blocked or blacklisted as you phrased it, the messages I have heard
- say, "The party you are calling has indicated they do not wish to
- receive calls at this time. Please try your call again later. This is
- a recording, <switch number>". Note they do *not* say 'the party does
- not wish to speak with *you* at this time' ... merely that the party
- does not wish to receive calls at this time. In the case of a block
- against all calls from persons who block their Caller-ID from your
- display the message, the message goes something like this: "The party
- you are calling does not wish to accept calls from persons who have
- blocked delivery of, or hidden their telephone number from display.
- Please hang up and call back with your caller-id unblocked." PAT]
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