SENATOR SMITH: You did not see him after 7 o'clock on the bridge?
MR. PITMAN: I did not, sir, no; because I did not go on the bridge myself.
SENATOR SMITH: Who was on the bridge?
MR. PITMAN: The second officer, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Mr. Lightoller?
MR. PITMAN: Mr. Lightoller.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you talk with Mr. Lightoller between 6 and 8 o'clock that night?
MR. PITMAN: I did not, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you learn from him that the Californian had warned the Titanic that she was in the vicinity of icebergs?
MR. PITMAN: I did not, sir. We had no conversation whatever.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you hear anything about the wireless from the Californian on the direction of icebergs?
MR. PITMAN: I did not, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: No one mentioned that to you?
MR. PITMAN: No, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you have any conversation with the captain on Sunday?
MR. PITMAN: None whatever, sir. I never had any.
SENATOR SMITH: You never spoke to him?
MR. PITMAN: I never spoke to him; no, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Did he say anything to you?
MR. PITMAN: Not on Sunday, he did not.
SENATOR SMITH: But you had spoken to him before, on the voyage?
MR. PITMAN: Oh, yes, sir; in reference to work.
SENATOR SMITH: But on Sunday you did not?
MR. PITMAN: No, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: If I recollect what you have said, you saw the icebergs or evidence of ice, when you were on the watch from 6 to 8 o'clock Sunday evening?
MR. PITMAN: I saw none whatever, sir, until I was in the boat, and that was about half past 3 Monday morning. That was the first ice I saw.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you look for it?
MR. PITMAN: We were keeping a special lookout for ice.
SENATOR SMITH: Who was?
MR. PITMAN: The officer of the watch from 10 o'clock on.
SENATOR SMITH: Who was the officer of the watch from 10 o'clock on?
MR. PITMAN: Mr. Murdock.
SENATOR SMITH: How do you know he was keeping a special lookout?
MR. PITMAN: Because he was warned.
SENATOR SMITH: Who warned him?
MR. PITMAN: Well, I know that Mr. Lightoller passed the word along to him.
SENATOR SMITH: How do you know that? I merely want to get at the fact. I am not pressing you for unnecessary detail.
MR. PITMAN: Because I had heard some one mention it.
SENATOR SMITH: Mention it before the collision or since?
MR. PITMAN: Oh, since.
SENATOR SMITH: Exactly. What did you do after you left the watch at 8 o'clock on Sunday evening?
MR. PITMAN: I went to bed, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Immediately?
MR. PITMAN: Within a very few minutes.
SENATOR SMITH: What time did you dine that evening?
MR. PITMAN: At 6 o'clock.
SENATOR SMITH: Just before going on watch?
MR. PITMAN: Yes. Well, no; just after I went on the bridge and left the bridge, then I had my dinner.
SENATOR SMITH: You had your dinner where?
MR. PITMAN: On the boat deck.
SENATOR SMITH: Is there a dining room up there, or anything of that kind?
MR. PITMAN: Yes.
SENATOR SMITH: For the officers?
MR. PITMAN: Our own mess.
SENATOR SMITH: After 8 o'clock you retired?
MR. PITMAN: Exactly, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Between 6 and 8 o'clock did you take any observations?
MR. PITMAN: Of what?
SENATOR SMITH: Astronomical observations?
MR. PITMAN: Yes; we took stellar observations and also observations for compass deviation.
SENATOR SMITH: You took them yourself?
MR. PITMAN: I took them myself. No sir; I did not take the stellar observations myself. I took the time for them, and Mr. Lightoller himself took the observations of the body.
SENATOR SMITH: How many times during that watch do you recollect?
MR. PITMAN: How many times did we take observations?
SENATOR SMITH: During that watch, yes; how many observations were taken?
MR. PITMAN: We just took a set of them at sunset, or just as it was getting dusk, when the stars were visible. It was about 6 or 8 o'clock that we took them.
SENATOR SMITH: Do you know how these observations located the ship?
MR. PITMAN: Do I know what?
SENATOR SMITH: Do you know how these observations located the ship?
MR. PITMAN: Yes; right on the track.
SENATOR SMITH: And that is where you got your necessary facts to determine the location of the ship?
MR. PITMAN: Exactly.
SENATOR SMITH: Am I right?
MR. PITMAN: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Can you give the location of the ship at 8 o'clock that night?
MR. PITMAN: No, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Or at any time between 6 and 8 o'clock?
MR. PITMAN: No, sir; I have forgotten.
SENATOR SMITH: Can you tell what speed the ship was making at the time of these observations?
MR. PITMAN: About 21 1/2.
SENATOR SMITH: Twenty­one and a half what?
MR. PITMAN: Knots.
SENATOR SMITH: Twenty­one and one half knots per hour?
MR. PITMAN: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: In miles what would that be?
MR. PITMAN: There are 6,080 feet in a nautical mile and there are 5,280 in the geographical mile.
SENATOR SMITH: At just what time between 6 and 8 o'clock did you take these observations?
MR. PITMAN: Oh, yes.
SENATOR SMITH: I say, at just what time. You did not take them while you were at your dinner?
MR. PITMAN: Oh, no, sir; about half past 7. Between half past 7 and 20 minutes to 8.
SENATOR SMITH: You and Mr. Lightoller?
MR. PITMAN: Yes; we took a set of sights.
SENATOR SMITH: The second officer took a set of­­­
MR. PITMAN: (interrupting). Stellar observations.
SENATOR SMITH: And at that time the speed of the ship was about 21 1/2 knots per hour?
MR. PITMAN: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you regard that as pretty good speed?
MR. PITMAN: No; nothing to what we expected her to do.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you expect her to do pretty well?
MR. PITMAN: We thought it quite possible that she could reach 24.
SENATOR SMITH: Were you trying to reach 24 knots?
MR. PITMAN: No; we had to study the coal. We had not the coal to do it.
SENATOR SMITH: You had not the coal?
MR. PITMAN: No, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Do you know how many boilers were working at that time?
MR. PITMAN: No, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: As I understood you, you made no special observations for icebergs?
MR. PITMAN: I did not, sir; no, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: These were stellar observations that you have referred to?
MR. PITMAN: Yes; to determine the position of the ship.
SENATOR SMITH: And did you personally direct your attention to the question of icebergs?
MR. PITMAN: No, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: I believe you said Mr. Murdock had given some attention to that?
MR. PITMAN: No; I understand that Mr. Lightoller warned him.
SENATOR SMITH: That you understand since the accident?
MR. PITMAN: Oh, no. We had mentioned it before. We spoke of it amongst ourselves.
SENATOR SMITH: When? On Sunday?
MR. PITMAN: Sunday. It might have been about 8 o'clock. I do not remember the time.
SENATOR SMITH: Eight o'clock on Sunday?
MR. PITMAN: It may have been. I can not remember it exactly.
SENATOR SMITH: But you are sure you talked it over with your fellow officers?
MR. PITMAN: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: You did not talk it over with the captain?
MR. PITMAN: Oh, no, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: During this conversation to which you refer, what was said and by whom, if you can recollect?
MR. PITMAN: We were just remarking that we should be in the vicinity of ice in Mr. Murdock's watch.
SENATOR SMITH: And Mr. Murdock's watch began at 10 o'clock?
MR. PITMAN: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: And you expected ice at that time?
MR. PITMAN: Well, we might see it.
SENATOR SMITH: You might see it at that time?
MR. PITMAN: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Were you all in accord on that?
MR. PITMAN: I had nothing to say in the matter. I was not interested in it.
SENATOR SMITH: Who was present during this conversation? Did it occur at dinner, or when did it occur?
MR. PITMAN: Oh, I can not remember now, sir, when it occurred, and I have not now the slightest idea who was there.
SENATOR SMITH: But, so far as you are concerned, the matter ended there?
MR. PITMAN: Yes. I just heard the remark passed; that was all.
SENATOR SMITH: Tell me, if you can, upon what ground you base your report of 21 1/2 knots speed?
MR. PITMAN: By the log and the revolutions.
SENATOR SMITH: How many revolutions was the boat making at that time?
MR. PITMAN: I think about 75.
SENATOR SMITH: And 75 revolutions would indicate that she was going about 21 1/2 knots?
MR. PITMAN: Approximately, yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Do you know whether she went any faster than that on that trip?
MR. PITMAN: No; I do not think so. She never exceeded 76 revolutions at any part of the trip.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you not hear one of the officers say that she had made 80 revolutions per minute?
MR. PITMAN: No, she never made 80 revolutions.
SENATOR SMITH: I may be in error about it, but my recollection is that either Mr. ­­­
MR. KIRLIN: That was a passenger, sir.
MR. BURLINGHAM: That was Mr. Toppin, a passenger.
SENATOR SMITH: Were you going straight away on a straight course when you took these observations?
MR. PITMAN: Yes, sir; exactly.
SENATOR SMITH: Or did you have a course of speed that took you in a curved direction?
MR. PITMAN: No; we were proceeding on the track laid down for the company.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you talk over the question of the speed of the ship that night with your fellow officers, during dinner or any other time?
MR. PITMAN: We did not, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you hear anyone else say how fast she was going?
MR. PITMAN: No, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: But you made your calculations in the manner you have described and give that as your best judgment?
MR. PITMAN: Yes, sir; 21 1/2 knots and 75 revolutions; 75 or 76 revolutions.
SENATOR SMITH: After making these observations, what did you do? It was then about 20 minutes to 8.
MR. PITMAN: After that I started working out the observations.
SENATOR SMITH: Where?
MR. PITMAN: In the chart room; in the chart house.
SENATOR SMITH: Who went in with you?
MR. PITMAN: I was there alone until 8 o'clock.
SENATOR SMITH: And you worked out those observations, did you?
MR. PITMAN: I did not finish them. Mr. Boxhall took on then and finished them.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you and he pass any words as to whether you were in accord at that time as to the location and speed of the ship?
MR. PITMAN: No, sir; we did not.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you say anything to him when you left him?
MR. PITMAN: Yes; I simply said "Here is a bunch of sights for you, old man. Go ahead."
SENATOR SMITH: And you went out?
MR. PITMAN: And I went out; yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: And as I understand, you retired to your berth?
MR. PITMAN: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: And when did you next appear outside of your berth?
MR. PITMAN: About 10 minutes to 12, or a quarter to 12, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: What occasion was there for rising at that time?
MR. PITMAN: Well, the collision woke me up.
SENATOR SMITH: Was there any special impact to awaken you?
MR. PITMAN: No; there was a sound that I thought seemed like the ship coming to an anchorthe chain running out over the windlass.
SENATOR SMITH: Did this impact jar the ship?
MR. PITMAN: No; it gave just a little vibration. I was about half awake and about half asleep. It did not quite awaken me.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you arouse yourself?
MR. PITMAN: I did, after a little thinking, wondering where we were anchoring.
SENATOR SMITH: You lay in bed a while after the impact?
MR. PITMAN: Oh, yes.
SENATOR SMITH: How long?
MR. PITMAN: Maybe three or four minutes.
SENATOR SMITH: Then did you get up and dress?
MR. PITMAN: No; I got up and walked on deck without dressing.
SENATOR SMITH: How far on deck?
MR. PITMAN: Just went outside of our quarters, had a look around, and could not see anyone.
SENATOR SMITH: Where were your quarters; on what deck?
MR. PITMAN: On the boat deck, close to the bridge.
SENATOR SMITH: Close to the bridge?
MR. PITMAN: Close to the bridge.
SENATOR SMITH: Forward?
MR. PITMAN: Forward, yes.
SENATOR SMITH: How far did you walk?
MR. PITMAN: Just outside the door, I should say 3 or 4 paces across the deck.
SENATOR SMITH: What did you do when you got out there; look around?
MR. PITMAN: Yes. I can describe to you what I did.
SENATOR SMITH: Do so, please.
MR. PITMAN: I had a look around, and I could not see anything, and could not hear any noise, so I went back to the room and sat down and lit my pipe. I thought that nothing had really happened, that perhaps it might have been a dream, or something like that. A few minutes afterwards I thought I had better start dressing, as it was near my watch, so I started dressing, and when I was partly dressed Mr. Boxhall came in and said the mail room ­ there was water in the mail room. I said, "What happened?" He said, "We struck an iceberg." So I put a coat on and went on deck, and saw the men uncovering the boats and clearing them away. I walked along to the after end of the boat deck, and met Mr. Moody, the sixth officer. I asked him if he had seen the iceberg. He said no; but he said, "There is some ice on the forward well deck." So, to satisfy my curiosity, I went down there myself.
SENATOR SMITH: How far down?
MR. PITMAN: On the well deck. So I saw a little ice there. I went further, to the forecastle head, to see if there was any damage there. I could not see any at all. On my return, before emerging from under the forecastle head, I saw a crowd of firemen coming out with their bags, bags of clothing. I said, "What is the matter?" They said, "The water is coming in our place." I said, "That is funny." I looked down No. 1 hatch, then, and saw the water flowing over the hatch. I then immediately went to the boat deck, and assisted in getting boats uncovered and ready for swinging out. I stood by No. 5 boat. They would not allow the sailors to get anything, as they thought we should get it again in the morning. In the act of clearing away this boat a man said to me, that was dressed in a dressing gown, with slippers on, he said to me very quietly, "There is not time to waste." I thought he did not know anything about it at all. So we carried on our work in the usual way.
SENATOR SMITH: Do you know who that was?
MR. PITMAN: I did not then?
SENATOR SMITH: Do you now?
MR. PITMAN: I do now.
SENATOR SMITH: Who was it?
MR. PITMAN: Mr. Ismay. I did not know who it was then; I had never seen the man in my life before. So I continued on getting this boat uncovered and swinging out. It struck me at the time the easy way the boat went out, the great improvement the modern davits were on the old­fashioned davits. I had about five or six men there, and the boat was out in about two minutes.
SENATOR SMITH: You are referring now to No. 5 boat?
