MR. HAINES: I laid off close to her at first, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: How close?
MR. HAINES: Within 100 yards at first, sir, until I saw her going down by the head.
SENATOR SMITH: You kept within a 100 yards of her?
MR. HAINES: For a time; yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Until you saw her going down by the head?
MR. HAINES: Yes; until I saw she was gradually sinking farther and farther down.
SENATOR SMITH: You then pulled away farther?
MR. HAINES: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you see any people in the water?
MR. HAINES: No, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you hear any cries for help?
MR. HAINES: Yes, sir; we heard some cries after the ship went down.
SENATOR SMITH: Did anybody in your boat urge you to return?
MR. HAINES: No, sir. I called the sailors after, and I passed the remark to them: "There is people in the water." I said, "Do you think it advisable?" I said, "We can't do nothing with this crowd we have in the boat," because we had no room to row, let alone do anything else, sir; and it was no good of our going back. By the time we got back there, we could not have done anything. We could not move in the boat, let alone row. I thought it unsafe to go back there, sir, having so many in the boat.
SENATOR SMITH: What did you do after the ship went down?
MR. HAINES: I told the men it was no good rowing; that we could not do anything until the morning, and I just lay there all night, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you have a light on your boat?
MR. HAINES: Yes, sir; I had a lamp there, a little pocket lamp.
SENATOR SMITH: Was the lamp lighted?
MR. HAINES: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you have provisions on your boat?
MR. HAINES: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you have water?
MR. HAINES: Yes, sir; biscuits and water, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: What happened then?
MR. HAINES: Just as it got daylight, sir, I saw the Carpathia's lights, and I pulled toward her and went alongside and put the passengers aboard the Carpathia.
SENATOR SMITH: Were the passengers all alive when you got to the Carpathia?
MR. HAINES: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Did the women urge you to go back toward the boat?
MR. HAINES: No, sir; the women did not, sir. I was in charge of the boat, sir, and if I had thought it possible I would have gone back. I took charge of the boat.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you help load the other boats?
MR. HAINES: No, sir; we were turning out the after boats while they were filling the forward ones. As soon as we finished turning the boats out I went to my own station. I got to my own boat just in time, as they filled my boat. The boatswain missed his boat, No. 7. No. 7 was gone before he got there. My own boat was No. 9.
SENATOR SMITH: You did not see any of the other boats loaded?
MR. HAINES: No, sir; I did not see any of them loaded. I came back just in time to take charge of my own boat.
SENATOR SMITH: Is that all you know about this matter?
MR. HAINES: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: These davits were of a new type, were they?
MR. HAINES: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Had you ever worked with them before?
MR. HAINES: In the Olympic I worked with them.
SENATOR SMITH: Did they work all right?
MR. HAINES: They worked very free.
SENATOR SMITH: Do you know of any of them that did not work all right?
MR. HAINES: No, sir. The screws were all in good condition, and they keep them covered with little canvas covers. You take the cover off and one man can haul them out or in, if they are in good condition.
SENATOR SMITH: And when you were on the deck that night, near the bridge, did you see any ice?
MR. HAINES: I saw the ice on the forewell deck, where she hit small ice.
SENATOR SMITH: I mean did you see any ice before she struck?
MR. HAINES: No, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: After she hit, did you see any ice?
MR. HAINES: I saw a little small ice on the forward side of the forewell deck.
SENATOR SMITH: In the morning, when it got daylight;, did you see any ice?
MR. HAINES: All around, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: You saw ice all around the boats ­ icebergs?
MR. HAINES: Yes, sir; and there was a big field of ice there, too.
SENATOR SMITH: How many icebergs?
MR. HAINES: I could not say. There was a good few of them, sir. They were dotted about all over the place.
SENATOR SMITH: Had you ever seen icebergs before?
MR. HAINES: I had seen them before; yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Where?
MR. HAINES: I had seen them off Newfoundland.
SENATOR SMITH: Up in this same region?
MR. HAINES: Further north, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Near the Grand Banks?
MR. HAINES: I had seen them up at St. Johns, Newfoundland.
SENATOR SMITH: How many icebergs do you think you saw that Monday morning following the accident?
MR. HAINES: Well, there were anywhere from 30 to 50.
SENATOR SMITH: Besides field ice?
MR. HAINES: Besides the icebergs, sir, there was a big field of ice, miles long.
SENATOR SMITH: When you said that you saw these icebergs, did you include large and small ones?
MR. HAINES: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: "Growlers," in other words?
MR. HAINES: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: How high was the largest one that you saw?
MR. HAINES: I should say from 80 to 100 feet high.
SENATOR SMITH: How far away from you was it when you saw it?
MR. HAINES: About half a mile, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: You had been on the Olympic, had you not?
MR. HAINES: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Doing the same work?
MR. HAINES: No, sir; I was quartermaster there, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Had you made a trip from Southampton to New York on the Olympic?
MR. HAINES: I was in her from the time she started right up to the trip we went to the Titanic, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you ever see any icebergs while you were on the Olympic?
MR. HAINES: No, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: How many of the crew of the Titanic had you worked with before?
MR. HAINES: There were several of the Olympic's crew there. The men that I had worked with were pretty well all White Star men. Some of them I had worked with in the Adriatic, and some of them in the Olympic, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: You had not been out very long on the Titanic?
MR. HAINES: No, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: And you had not worked with one another very long had you?
MR. HAINES: Only from Southampton, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Is there anything more you care to say about this matter?
MR. HAINES: No, sir. I know of one incident there, where a lady would not come into the boat. That is all, sir. She would not come into the boat when they were filling it. One of the ladies refused to get into the boat.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you ask her to get in?
MR. HAINES: The officers were trying to get her in. Mr. Murdock, then, was trying to get her in the boat, and she would not get into the boat.
SENATOR SMITH: Do you know who it was?
MR. HAINES: No, sir; I could not say who it was.
SENATOR SMITH: How old a woman was it?
MR. HAINES: I could not say, sir. I could not see. I only know there was a lady there that would not get into the boat, and she went back.
SENATOR SMITH: Did she say she would not get into the boat because of her family or husband?
MR. HAINES: No, sir; I do not think it was that, at all. I think she was afraid to get into the boat.
SENATOR SMITH: Did the women hesitate a little about getting into the boat?
MR. HAINES: No, sir; none of the others. I did not see any of the others hesitate, except this one.
SENATOR SMITH: Did the men passengers try to get into the boats?
MR. HAINES: No, sir; I did not see any of them do it, at least.
SENATOR SMITH: Were they told to stand back?
MR. HAINES: Yes.
SENATOR SMITH: By Officer Murdock?
MR. HAINES: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: What did he say when he told them that?
MR. HAINES: He just stood there; that is all.
SENATOR SMITH: What did he say?
MR. HAINES: He filled the boats with the ladies. He told me to put all these ladies in the boat, and he filled her up, sir. When she was full two or three men jumped in the bow of her. He said, "That is enough, " and he lowered her down.
SENATOR SMITH: What officer stood with you at the boat you lowered; that is, at the boat, and helped load it and lower it?
MR. HAINES: Mr. Murdock, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Was there any other officer there?
MR. HAINES: I never noticed any other; no sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you see Mr. Lowe?
MR. HAINES: No sir; I did not see him.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you see Mr. Boxhall?
MR. HAINES: No, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Or Mr. Pitman?
MR. HAINES: No, sir; I never saw any of them, only Mr. Murdock. He was in charge. He filled our boat alone, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: And with 63 people in your boat, she lowered all right?
MR. HAINES: She lowered from the davits; yes, sir. She lowered from the boat deck, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Did all the occupants of your boat get in from the boat deck?
MR. HAINES: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Did any of them attempt to get in as it was being lowered to the water?
MR. HAINES: No, sir; I did not see any of them. We had only to pass one deck where they could get in. That would be A deck, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you have a compass in your boat?
MR. HAINES: I did not see one, sir. I do not know whether there was one in there or not. We did not require one, sir. As soon as it got daylight, sir, we sighted the ship.
SENATOR SMITH: Do you know whether the board of trade regulations required one to be in the boat?
MR. HAINES: They have them aboard, sir. They are aboard. They have a place where they stow them in the lockers. But whether they were put into the boat or not I do not know, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: You did not see any?
MR. HAINES: I did not see it, and I did not look for it.
SENATOR SMITH: That is all.
TESTIMONY OF SAMUEL S. HEMMING.
Mr. Hemming sworn in by the chairman.
SENATOR SMITH: Where do you live?
MR. HEMMING: 51 Kingsley Road, Southampton.
SENATOR SMITH: What is your age?
MR. HEMMING: Forty­three?
SENATOR SMITH: What is your occupation?
MR. HEMMING: Seaman.
SENATOR SMITH: Have you ever had a rate as a seaman? Have you a rate as A.B.?
MR. HEMMING: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: How long have you followed the water?
MR. HEMMING: Since I was 15 years old.
SENATOR SMITH: Have you sailed the North Atlantic before?
MR. HEMMING: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: How often?
MR. HEMMING: I have been with the White Star Line for five years.
SENATOR SMITH: On what boats on the line have you served?
MR. HEMMING: On the Teutonic, the Adriatic, the Olympic and the Titanic.
SENATOR SMITH: In what capacity?
MR. HEMMING: As a lamp trimmer, boatswain's mate, and botswain.
SENATOR SMITH: What was your position on the Titanic?
MR. HEMMING: Lamp trimmer.
SENATOR SMITH: What were your duties?
MR. HEMMING: To mix the paint, and all that kind of thing for the ship, and to look after all the decks, trim the lamps, and get them in proper order. That is all, I think. To put the lights in at nighttime and take them off at daybreak.
SENATOR SMITH: Where were you the night of this accident?
MR. HEMMING: I was in my bunk.
SENATOR SMITH: Were you asleep?
MR. HEMMING: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Were you awakened by anybody?
MR. HEMMING: I was awakened by the impact, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: What did you do when you were awakened?
MR. HEMMING: I went out and put my head through the porthole to see what we hit. I made the remark to the storekeeper. "It must have been ice." I said, "I do not see anything."
SENATOR SMITH: What made you think it was ice?
MR. HEMMING: Because I could not see anything.
SENATOR SMITH: You mean you looked to see if you saw the lights of another boat, and, not being able to see any such thing, you thought it was ice?
MR. HEMMING: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Had you ever seen ice in that part of the ocean before?
MR. HEMMING: No, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Had you ever been through that part before, on your route?
MR. HEMMING: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: What did you do then?
MR. HEMMING: I went up under the forecastle head to see where the hissing noise came from.
SENATOR SMITH: What did you find?
MR. HEMMING: Nothing.
SENATOR SMITH: Go right along and tell what you did.
MR. HEMMING: I did not see anything. I opened the forepeak storeroom; me and the storekeeper went down as far as the top of the tank and found everything dry. I came up to ascertain where the hissing noise was still coming from. I found it was the air escaping out of the exhaust of the tank. At that time the chief officer, Mr. Wilde, put his head around the hawse pipe and says: "What is that, Hemming?" I said; "The air is escaping from the forepeak tank, She is making water in the forepeak tank, but the storeroom is quite dry." He said, "All right," and went away.
SENATOR SMITH: What did you do then?
MR. HEMMING: I went back and turned in.
SENATOR SMITH: Do you mean that you went back to your bunk and went to sleep?
MR. HEMMING: Me and the storekeeper went back and turned into our bunks
SENATOR SMITH: How long did you stay in your bunks?
MR. HEMMING: We went back in our banks a few minutes. Then the joiner came in and he said: "If I were you, I would turn out, you fellows. She is making water, one­two­three, and the racket court is getting filled up." Just as he went, the boatswain came, and he says, "Turn out, you fellows," He says; "you haven't half an hour to live." He said; ":That is from Mr. Andrews." He said: "Keep it to yourselves, and let no one know."
SENATOR SMITH: Mr. Andrews was one of the firm of Harland & Wolff, the builders of the ship?
MR. HEMMING: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: How long was that after the ship struck this ice?
MR. HEMMING: It would be about a quarter of an hour, sir, from the time the ship struck.
SENATOR SMITH: What did you do then?
MR. HEMMING: I went on deck to help to get the boats out.
SENATOR SMITH: On which side of the deck?
MR. HEMMING: On the port side.
SENATOR SMITH: What boat did you go to? To which station did you go?
MR. HEMMING: My station was boat No. 16 on the boat list.
SENATOR SMITH: To what boat did you go?
MR. HEMMING: I went and helped turn out; started with the foremost boat, and then worked aft.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you assist in turning out the boats?
MR. HEMMING: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: What boat did you get to first?
MR. HEMMING: I am not sure whether it was No. 4 or No. 6.
SENATOR SMITH: On the same side, the port side?
MR. HEMMING: Yes, sir.
SENATOR SMITH: Was it No. 4 or No. 6 that you went to first? Was it one or the other, I mean?
MR. HEMMING: It was one or the other.
SENATOR SMITH: Did you help to turn out both boats?
