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From: brown@eff.org (Dan Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.beer,alt.answers,news.answers
Subject: Alt.beer faq 12/01/93 revision
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Alt.beer FAQ 12/01/93
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i. Intro.
This list has been compiled over the time that alt.beer has been up
available on Usenet. Please send any suggestions, corrections or
changes to Dan Brown, brown@eff.org.
Many Thanks to all of the people that contributed, notably:
Tim P McNerney, tpm%wdl58@wdl1.wdl.loral.com
Dean Cookson, cookson@mbunix.mitre.org
John R. Mellby, jmellby@iluvatar.dseg.ti.com
Mark Enderby, enderby@daresbury.ac.uk
Matt Dick, mattd@comm.mot.com
Roger Brown, x1rbrown@exnet.iastate.edu
Bruce Tindall, sasbmt@unx.sas.com
Tony Scott, scottt@vax.sbu.ac.uk
Richard Stueven, gak@wrs.com
and all of the people that have kept this newsgroup going!
If you your name is up there, and you didn't know you contributed, it
probably is because I have saved an interesting post from alt.beer.
Thanks!
This list is divided into several sections, each addressing a bit
different aspect of beer. The topic is as broad as there are tastes for
different kinds of beer. Due to this, this FAQ list cannot possibly
cover every aspect of the subject. It is only meant as an overview
that answers a few of the multitude of "Frequently Asked Questions"
Cheers!
Dan Brown
brown@eff.org
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ii. Table of contents
The sections are as follows:
i. intro.
ii. Table of contents.
I. Drinking Beer.
II. Making Beer.
III. General Beer FAQ's
and
IV. Questions about alt.beer.
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I. Drinking Beer
What kinds of beers are there?
What are Ales and Lagers, etc, types and styles.
What are ales? Ales are generally beers made with top fermenting yeasts
They are brewed at "warm" temperatures, normally between 50 and
70 degrees Fahrenheit.
What are lagers? Lagers are generally beers made with bottom Fermenting
yeasts. They are brewed at cooler temperatures, generally 35 to
50 degrees Fahrenheit.These cooler temperatures mean longer
brewing. The process of brewing at cool temperatures is called
"lagering." Pilsners (most American beers) are a subset of lagers.
The style originated in Pilsen Chezkoslovakia.
What are lambics? Lambics are specifically Belgian beers, made in a
certain part of Belgium using wild yeasts. They have a very
distinctive taste, and are often flavored with fruit syrups.
What are the government classifications?
What is malt liquor? Malt liquor is a classification bestowed on beers
that are above a certain alcohol content. The laws vary from state
to state in the US. Many beers have been given the title malt
liquor, even though that is not their true type.
What do 3.2 and 5.0% mean? This is a "rating" of the amount of alcohol in
the beer, by volume or by weight depending on where you are.
What is Reinheitsgebot? It is an old German "purity" law that delineates
the ingredients that can be used to make beer. Under this law, there
are only four; water, barley malt, hops, and yeast.
"Rein" means clean or pure; "-heit" means "-ness"; so "Reinheit"
means "cleanliness" or "purity".
What is do the terms used in beer commercials mean?
What is "Dry" beer? Dry beer is beer that has less malt, and more corn
or rice sugars added to it during the brewing process. This
produces a lighter, slightly more alcoholic, "dryer" tasting beer.
It also probably reduces the brewing costs.
What is "Cold Filtered?" Cold filtering is beer that is physically filtered
after it has been brewed, before it is bottled. This tends to
eliminate all sediments (yeast and malt leftovers... things that
can give beer character), and makes the beer clear.
What does "Heat Pasteurized" mean? It means the beer has been heated after
fermenting, killing all of the remaining live yeasts and any other
microganisms. It means that the beer will not continue to age in
its bottle.
What does "bottle conditioned" mean? It is beer that has not been
pasteurized, and still has live yeast in it. It will continue to
age in the bottle, and the character of the beer will change over
time. For some kinds of beer this is good, for others it means
they will spoil after a while.
What is "draught" (draft) beer? It is beer that has been drawn or pulled
from a cask. Beer from pressurized kegs is often referred to as
draft beer, but this is probably a misnomer, or an "Americanism"
What is ice beer/ eisbock? Whats the difference? Ice beer is beer that has
reportedly been fermented a nearly freezing temperatures. This is
another ploy by Megabrewies to convince people that their beer is
something different or better than everyone elses. Ice Beers are
basically another style of light American lagers.
True eisebock's are beers that have been frozen after they are
fermented to raise the specific gravity and alcohol content of
the beer. The water in the beer turns to ice when the beer gets
cold enough. The ice crystals are strained or filtered out, leaving
a beer with a higher specific gravity and generally a higher
alcohol content.
How can you get draft beer in a can or bottle???
Unknown.
Where can I get beer? Breweries, brewpubs, stores, restaurants,
distributors, and by making your own.
What is a brewpub? It is a combination of brewery, pub, and maybe
restaurant. There are LOTS of these in Europe, and are getting
to be more in America.
Can I get beer in the mail?
Yes... Beer Across America's phone numbr is 1-800-854-2337,
and Microbrew to You is, 428 E. Campbell ave Campbell, CA 95008
408-379-0500.
How do I make my own beer?? See below.
How do I judge a beer or what is good beer?
Good beer (what is it, and how to tell). Good beer is determined by an
individuals tastes. It has been suggested that trying a wide variety
of beers will usually help a person figure out what beer tastes good.
What makes beer go bad? (what it is and why it is bad/skunked.) Bad beer
is beer that tastes bad of is spoiled. Beer can and will spoil
under certain conditions. Mishandling and old age are the two
biggest causes of spoiled beer. Skunked beer refers to beer that
has been lightstruck, causing the hops to take on a skunky odor.
This is often happens with clear or green bottles, and tends to
be prevalent in certain imported beers.
I like to drink beer, how do I get rid of a beer gut?
(ed note... this was just too classic to edit!)
|From: scottt@vax.sbu.ac.uk
|Newsgroups: alt.beer
|Subject: Re: Dilemma
|Message-ID: <1993Aug20.124536.3083@vax.sbu.ac.uk>
|Date: 20 Aug 93 12:45:36 GMT
|References: <28189@mindlink.bc.ca>
|Organization: South Bank University
|Lines: 9
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|In article <28189@mindlink.bc.ca>, miles@mindlink.bc.ca (Ya'akov Miles) writes:
|> Help. I need advice. I have a beer belly and I like beer. How do I get
|> rid of the belly and not have to go without beer?
|>
|> Ya'akov Miles,
|
|Stop eating, just drink Guinness.
|
|Tony Scott
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II. Making Beer
WHERE DO I START... How do I make beer? Beer is made with
basically, water, barley malt, hops and yeast. The water, malt
and hops are boiled to produce a wort. This wort is cooled, put
into a fermenting vessel, and the yeast is added (pitched). This
vessel is sealed with an air lock, and the beer is allowed to
ferment (sugar and water is turned to alcohol, carbon dioxide, etc)
and age for a period of time. When the fermentation is over, a
bit of additional malt or other sugar is added (for carbonation),
and the beer is bottled or kegged. It is once again allowed to age
for a period of time, during which the additional sugars carbonate
the beer, and the taste of the beer developes and ages. The beer
is then consumed.
Where to find more information about making beer??
What other Internet resources are available? You can find more information
in the newsgroups rec.crafts.brewing, and rec.food.drink. There is a
mailing list, "The Homebrew Digest" sent out almost daily. There
is an archive of HBD items available via ftp at sierra.stanford.edu,
in the /pub/homebrew directory. There is also a mead-makers archive
in the /pub/mead directory.
What books are available on homebrewing? The most popular is "The Complete
Joy of Homebrewing by Charlie Papazian. This is the book that
made the phrase "Relax, Don't worry, Have a Homebrew" popular.
Where can I find recipes? TCJOH by Papazian, "The Cats Meow" from the
HBD, etc etc.
How should I store my homebrew? The most common method is in bottles.
These can be either the Grolsh kind, that have a stopper that
is attached to the bottle, bottles that you put a crown cap on,
or bottles that you cork. How do I get the labels of the bottles
that I am going to use for my brew? The most effective method is
Commonly said to be by soaking them in a solution of water and
ammonia. Most labels will fall off after soaking overnight.
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III. Some General Beer FAQ's.. AKA, Pet Peeves that pop up on alt.beer
all too often.
What does the "33" on the back of Rolling Rock bottles mean? There are
several common answers. First, it is said to be the number of
words on the back label. The story goes that the Latrobe Brewing
Company was deciding on which slogan to use on the new bottles,
and had counted the number of words, and written it on the piece
of paper that went to the bottle supplier. The bottle supplier
mistakenly included the 33 on the printed bottles, and it has been
there since. Another explanation is that it is the year that
prohibition was repealed. One notable comment about the mysterious
33 from a Latrobe exec goes something like; "Who cares what it
means as, long as people continue to ponder it while drinking a
cold Rolling Rock."
What is this new thing that Guinness is test marketing? How does it work?
Where can I get it? The thing is a can that has a pouch of
Nitrogen gas in it that is used to produce a creamy head as you
pour the beer. Probably the closest thing to "draft beer in a can!"
What is CAMRA? CAMRA - the Campaign for Real Ale was formed 21 years ago
in the UK to protect the rapidly disappearing cask ales from a
tide of bland keg beers which were being foisted on the public
by the large breweries. It was fantastically successful (the most
successful consumer movement in Europe) and now addresses other
issues such as licensing law and protecting the British pub.
It has now formed alliances with similar organisations througout
Europe to deal with impending Europe issues. There are branches
of CAMRA in several countries (eg Canada). As to Australia, I
think there is a local organisation - will check it out during
the break. However, you can get further details from the UK HQ at
34 Alma Road, St Albans, Herts AL1 3BW, UK.
Mark Enderby, enderby@daresbury.ac.uk (CAMRA Regional Director)
What is Jagermeister? It is a German herbal liquor. It is NOT beer.
Discussions about it should be held on rec.food.drink. The same
holds for all other beverages... like Everclear...
How is the typical mass produced American beer like sex in a Canoe?
WHO CARES!!!! This is a lame joke that has been beat into the
ground! Enough already! For newcomers who haven't heard it,
the punch line is "Because they are both f*cking close to water."
YAWN! This joke has been attributed to Monty Python. I will
personally email 10 bottles of heavily skunked, over-primed
homebrew beer grenades to anyone who repeats it on the net.
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IV. Questions about alt.beer.
What is it about?
alt.beer is a newsgroup that was created for the express purpose
of discussing topics related to beer.
Where are the archives? The alt.beer archives are available via anonymous
ftp to ftp.cwru.edu. Change directories to ~/pub/alt.beer.
This is hopefully going to change in the near future.
What is in the archives? Various files... this FAQ list, the alt.beer
charter, some information about CAMRA, etc etc.
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