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Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.announce,comp.archives.msdos.d,comp.answers,news.answers
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From: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: comp.archives.msdos.{announce,d} FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
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Archive-name: msdos-archives/faq
Garbo-archive-name: garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/camfaq.zip
Last-modified: Tue 30-Nov-1993 13:18
Copyright (c) 1993 Timo Salmi
All rights reserved
Frequently Asked Questions of the InterNet newsgroups
comp.archives.msdos.announce and comp.archives.msdos.d
======================================================
1) What is the purpose of comp.archives.msdos.announce newsgroup?
2) What is the purpose of comp.archives.msdos.d newsgroup?
3) How do I obtain the announced files from the MsDos FTP sites?
4) "Hands on!" A newbie's quick start to get you going. An example
5) Something is wrong with the .zip (.zoo) etc package I downloaded
6) What if the FTP site is busy most of the time?
7) How do I submit programs to the MsDos FTP archives?
8) What is the SIMTEL20 / SimTel situation?
9) I don't have FTP. Where are the mail servers?
10) What if I do not get any response from a mail server?
11) Where can I find program package xxxxx.zip?
12) What is tar.Z? Where can I find tar for MsDos? What about
uudecode, compress?
13) How do I get it from a mirror site? And which directory?
14) Would someone uuencode and email me the program I want?
15) Please email the information directly to me!
16) Me too!
17) Where do I get the Zoo, the Zip or the other unarchivers?
18) Where do I find games? Where do I find GIFs?
19) What if the announced file is not at the archive site?
21) Where should I post or look if my topic does not belong here?
22) What if my question is not covered in this FAQ?
23) What has changed in this FAQ since the last time?
31) Acknowledgments for contributions for my FAQ maintenance
....................................................................
1. *****
Q: What is the purpose of comp.archives.msdos.announce newsgroup?
A: The CAM.announce newsgroup was created the 15th of December
1992. It has the following clarified charter which gives it
purpose.
This moderated newsgroup is for the upload announcements and
related information from MSDOS FTP sites with PD and shareware
material. The subjects include the upload announcements via the
MSDOS FTP site moderators, the MSDOS sites' periodical summaries,
potential policy statements and downtime warnings, and the MSDOS FTP
site moderators' reports about the connectivity problems with their
archive sites. Unix announcements conform only if they directly
relate to transferring or handling the MSDOS material from the MSDOS
FTP sites.
Moderators:
Principal moderator Keith Petersen (w8sdz@SimTel.Coast.NET)
Co-moderators Timo Salmi (ts@uwasa.fi) + FAQ maintenance
Brian O'Neill (oneill@cs.uml.edu)
Harri Valkama Not general, Garbo related only
Other FTP site moderators are welcome to help in
the joint moderation of this newsgroup.
Joined moderators Ari Hovila (ajh@uwasa.fi)
Further clarification:
The purpose of comp.archives.msdos.announce is to be a ONE-WAY
channel for MSDOS upload announcements which the moderators handle,
and other one-way, occasional information relating to MSDOS FTP
sites. The moderators will therefore not be handling users'
discussion material, questions, and replies. The unmoderated
comp.archives.msdos.d newsgroup (see below) will cover that aspect.
Official one line description:
Announcements about MSDOS archives. (Moderated)
2. *****
Q: What is the purpose of comp.archives.msdos.d newsgroup?
A: The CAM.d newsgroup was created the 15th of December 1992. The
clarified charter is given below. (CAM.d officially replaces the
expired comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives newsgroup, which should thus
no longer be used, if your site is for some reason still receiving
it.)
"This unmoderated newsgroup is the discussion subgroup of the
moderated comp.archives.msdos.announce newsgroup. The newsgroup
covers users' reports, questions and discussions about the PD and
shareware programs at the MSDOS FTP sites, and the users' questions
about the MSDOS FTP sites such as the users' connectivity problem
reports. The group is also for posting requests/replies concerning
where to find such programs as are stored at the MSDOS FTP sites.
However, users are expected to refer to the FTP site file indexes
before posting such requests. The newsgroup does not cover any
discussions of fully commercial programs or programs for other
operating systems like OS/2. (These programs have Usenet newsgroups
of their own)."
Official one line description:
Discussion of materials available in MSDOS archives.
3. *****
Q: How do I obtain the announced files from the MsDos FTP sites?
A: If you are not familiar with using anonymous FTP or mail servers
for downloading material from the MsDos FTP sites, you should
contact the maintainer of the relevant site for the instructions.
Take a look at the instructions (given below in the second section
"A2" of this answer) on how to order for example the garbo.uwasa.fi
instructions from Timo Salmi (ts@uwasa.fi). The SimTel information
is available from w8sdz@SimTel.Coast.NET (Keith Petersen).
Please note that you should not email the moderator(s) of an FTP
site for advice on another FTP site. Although the moderators often
cooperate, the individualized queries should always go directly to
the right place. If you need the moderators' email addresses, see
the MsDos FTP site list "garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/moder*.zip". It
also contains information about the major mirroring sites.
Likewise you should pose the questions concerning a mirror site
to the mirroring site's moderator, not to the moderator of the site
being mirrored. Although mirroring is very welcome and the sites
cooperate, the mirroring is an independent operation by the site
that does the mirroring.
If you are uncertain whom to ask, post your question to
comp.archives.msdos.d.
A2: Even if this relates to a specific site (Garbo), much of the
information in the referred instructions is generic:
"If you do not know how to go about getting material from the
Garbo archives, users are welcome to email me for the prerecorded
garbo.uwasa.fi instructions (long, circa 29Kb). North American
users are referred to the Garbo mirror on wuarchive.wustl.edu.
Australian users are referred to the archie.au mirror. For the
Asian users there is the NCTUCCCA.edu.tw mirror. The mirrors may
lag occasionally, or might not have all the files. If you do not
receive my reply within five days, please ask your own site's system
manager to construct a returnable mail path for you".
Also see the item "What is the SIMTEL20 / SimTel situation?"
4. *****
Q: "Hands on!" A newbie's quick start to get you going. An example
A: Here is a quick start to show you an example how to get
(download) PKZIP, the file index and a news file from one of the
MsDos FTP sites to your host.
ftp garbo.uwasa.fi #FTP connect to Garbo
anonymous #Use this name to get temporary privileges
Type (at least) the first part of your email address as your password
cd /pc/arcers #Go to the relevant directory
bin #Use the binary mode in program transfers
get pkz204g.exe #Get the file to your default directory
cd /pc #Go to the MsDos main directory
get INDEX.ZIP #Get the annotated list of files
cd /pc/pd2 #Go to the general information directory
ascii #Use the ascii mode for text file transfers
get news-pd2 #Get the news file
close #Close the connection to Garbo
quit #Quit the FTP program
5. *****
Q: Something is wrong with the .zip (.zoo) etc package I downloaded:
I get a CRC error, a "requires PKUNZIP 3.0 or higher version", a
"zipfile is part of multi-disk archive" message, or whatever when
I try to process the .zip package I downloaded from an MsDos FTP
site.
A1: 1) Use a binary transfers at all phases. (Both from the FTP
site to your host and from your host to your PC.)
2) Use a version 2.04G compatible extractor on your MsDos PC:
" 40062 Jan 19 07:00 OAK.Oakland.Edu:/pub/msdos/zip/unz50p1.exe"
"202574 Jan 18 09:39 OAK.Oakland.Edu:/pub/msdos/zip/pkz204g.exe"
" 40062 Jan 18 11:06 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/arcers/unz50p1.exe"
"202574 Feb 1 02:04 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/arcers/pkz204g.exe"
3) PKZIP 2.04G compatible Unix (actually multi-platform) version
by the Info-ZIP programming group is available as
"299288 Jan 15 19:00 OAK.Oakland.Edu:/pub/misc/unix/unz50p1.tar.Z"
"299288 Jan 15 08:42 garbo.uwasa.fi:/unix/arcers/unz50p1.tar.Z"
Using the old Unix version for testing 2.04G .zip files on
Unix can cause false CRC error messages.
A2: In over 99.9% of cases the allegedly corrupt packages are
caused either by the user's failure to transfer the .zip packages in
the binary mode or using an outdated version of PKUNZIP.
In file transfers there are (usually) two phases:
A) From the FTP site to your host.
B) From your host to your PC.
Failure the transfer in the binary mode can cause quite unexpected
error messages like for example "requires PKUNZIP 2.8 or higher
version".
It is fairly common of the users to claim that they have
transferred in the binary mode, but in fact done so for only one of
the stages! This mistake, and using the old versions of PKUNZIP has
caused innumerable false alarms from the downloaders to the FTP
archive site maintainers. It is not impossible, but it is extremely
rare that a package is actually corrupt on the FTP archive site.
In some very unusual cases setting the transfer to binary is not
enough because the byte order of your host and the FTP site might
not be the same. That is why most ftp programs have a mode called
TENEX, which tells each end to use binary mode but to sort out the
byte ordering differences between the two machines. If your ftp
program does not have the TENEX command you can make it do the same
thing by issuing these two commands:
ftp> binary
ftp> quote "TYPE L 8"
The double quotes are required.
Some users with .zip problems want to know where to get PKZIPFIX.
It is within the PKZIP distribution package (pkz204g.exe), but using
it will not rectify any of the errors described in the above.
If you are using a 386 or 486 computer, PKUNZIP may be having
some problems with your machine's BIOS. You can force PKUNZIP to
NOT use 386 instructions by doing SET PKNO386=ON at the DOS command
prompt to put the variable PKNO386 into your DOS environment.
There is also a Unix version of unzip in case you wish to look at
the package already at your Unix host. At Garbo it is
"299288 Jan 15 08:42 garbo.uwasa.fi:/unix/arcers/unz50p1.tar.Z"
If you do not know how to handle tar.Z files, see /unix/ts/0news-u
for the instructions to make operative a utility distributed as a
tar.Z. (A tar.Z file must be transferred as binary.)
A3: PKWare blissfully started advertising PKZIP 2.0 in Magazines
already in spring 1992. PKWare's PKZIP 2.04C was finally released
the 28th of December 1992 and has been since updated to be
"garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/arcers/pkz204g.exe".
Be warned that there are countless bogus PKZIP 1.20, 2.0, 2.02,
3.05 and whatever scams floating around. They usually are hacks of
PKZIP 1.93A beta test version. Some of them are trojans and / or
carry computer virii.
A4: The most common error with .zoo is using the old 2.01 version
instead of the current version 2.10.
6. *****
Q: What if the FTP site is busy most of the time?
A: If you have a BSD Unix host consider automated FTP:
"29520 Nov 23 11:38 garbo.uwasa.fi:/unix/networking/ftp/batchftp102.tar.Z"
"batchftp102.tar.Z Get files automatically by FTP (a definite must!)"
and
" 1670 Nov 23 11:38 garbo.uwasa.fi:/unix/networking/ftp/batchftp.inf"
"batchftp.inf Timo's instructions for using batchftp"
This is advisable even if you don't have access problems, since
using batchftp decreases the overhead of being connected. It is
very convenient anyway once you have managed to set it up. Another
alternative is
"2992 Jun 8 12:38 garbo.uwasa.fi:/unix/networking/scripts/get12.zip"
"get12.zip Get files from MS-DOS archive site, J.Rice"
One thing _*NOT*_ to do if an FTP site is busy. If you have the
FTP capability don't substitute FTP by mail server requests. The
mail servers cause more load both on the net traffic and the mail
server site's capacity.
7. *****
Q: How do I submit programs to the MsDos FTP archives?
A: The answer naturally depends on your target site. You should
contact the maintainer of the relevant site for more information.
For Garbo you can also get the instructions by downloading
"garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/UPLOAD.INF" and "/pc/UPTEXT.INF". Please read
these files carefully _*BEFORE*_ you upload to Garbo, so that your
own and our time will not be unnecessarily wasted.
For SimTel see the periodic posting by Keith Petersen, or
contact him directly.
The addresses of most of the major MsDos FTP site moderators can
be found in "garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/moder*.zip".
8. *****
Q: What is the SIMTEL20 / SimTel situation?
A: SIMTEL20 was closed at the end of September 1993. The archive
was frozen on the 17th of September, 1993 in preparation for moving
it to a new location. In the new arrangement the SimTel files are
available from SimTel mirror sites:
For security reasons the SimTel Software Repository is located on
a host that is not accessible by Internet users, however its files
are available by anonymous ftp from the primary mirror site
OAK.Oakland.Edu (141.210.10.117) located in Rochester, Michigan, and
from the secondary mirror sites:
St. Louis, MO: wuarchive.wustl.edu (128.252.135.4)
Corvallis, OR: archive.orst.edu (128.193.2.13)
Falls Church, VA: ftp.uu.net (192.48.96.9
Australia: archie.au (139.130.4.6)
England: src.doc.ic.ac.uk (146.169.2.1)
Finland: ftp.funet.fi (128.214.6.100)
Germany: ftp.uni-paderborn.de (131.234.2.32)
Israel: ftp.technion.ac.il (132.68.1.10)
Switzerland: ftp.switch.ch (130.59.1.40)
Taiwan: NCTUCCCA.edu.tw (140.111.1.10)
SimTel files may obtained by e-mail from various ftp-mail servers
or through the BITNET/EARN file servers. For details see file
/pub/msdos/filedocs/mailserv.inf. Gopher users can access the
collection through Gopher.Oakland.Edu. World Wide Web (WWW) and
Mosaic users can connect to the URL http://www.acs.oakland.edu to
access the files on OAK.Oakland.Edu.
9. *****
Q: I don't have FTP. Where are the mail servers?
A: I only have information on the Garbo mail server. Information
on the Garbo mail server is included in the prerecorded long (29Kb)
Garbo instructions I have promised to send to users upon their email
requests. I have no further information on the mail servers serving
SimTel, and none on the mail servers of the other sites, but
garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/moder*.zip has some additional information
from Turgut Kalfaoglu on the trickle mail servers.
Also watch for the periodic information on the CAM.announce
newsgroup the mail servers serving SimTel.
In general, this is practically all the information I have on the
sites' mail servers. I don't run even Garbo's. (My fellow
moderators Ari Hovila and Harri Valkama do that). I just have the
prerecorded instructions. That's all, so I am afraid it is of
little use of asking me about any mail server details or problems,
since I do not know the answers.
10. *****
Q: What if I do not get any response from a mail server?
A: Contact your own site's system manager, and ask him/her to look
into it. You must have a returnable mail path in order to use the
mail servers!
One thing _*NOT*_ to do if you haven't ever gotten a response
from the particular mail server, is sending the the same request
repeatedly. It may reach the server even if the server cannot send
the request back to you, because of your bouncing address. You'll
just be overloading the mail server. Please do not do that! The
maintainers of the target site will not be happy if you do.
If you have been able to get files from a mail server, but don't
get the file you are currently requesting, the same applies. Do
_*NOT*_ send the request over and over again. First assure from the
CURRENT file lists that the file really is there. Some programs get
updated fairly frequently, and there may be other similar reasons
for a temporary unavailability, like the site being down at the
moment.
11. *****
Q: Where can I find program package xxxxx.zip?
A: If you already know fairly accurately what you are looking for,
then before posting you should first look at the file lists of the
major MsDos FTP sites, or try the Archie server. For example the
main file list for SimTel and Garbo are
"OAK.Oakland.Edu:/pub/msdos/simlist.zip"
"garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/INDEX.ZIP"
"garbo.uwasa.fi:/windows/WINDEX.ZIP"
The tips in Samuel Ko's "The Most Useful MSDOS Programs at SimTel
and Garbo" "garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/filelist/useful*.zip" can be of much
help in a number of the most common program queries.
Also see "garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsfaqn*.zip" Frequently Asked
Questions if you are looking for utilities like programs to capture
the screen to a file or to the printer, utilities for directing all
printer output to a file, and so on and on.
Likewise should you need programs for your Unix host to transfer
and handle the files, programs like Zmodem and the various
(un)archiving utilities like unzip, scan the said material, and the
"garbo.uwasa.fi:/unix/UINDEX.ZIP" file list. Also take a look at
"/unix/ts/0news-u" for advice on making the Unix files operational
on your host.
As for the Archie servers, see "garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/
tsfaqn*.zip" again for the pointer. (But note that the coverage and
an up-to-date status of the servers is not guaranteed).
This item is definitely not to discourage anyone from asking
relevant questions, quite the contrary. Contributions in the form
of news postings from all users are welcome and enjoyed. Asking
appropriate questions in order to find useful PD & shareware MsDos
programs _and_ giving informative answers to the relevant questions
is partly what the CAM.d newsgroup is about. However, it is good to
know these basics before asking away. It is polite towards the
other users to have already taken some trivial preliminary steps.
A2: If you are quite a newcomer to all this then you'll need the
utilities to unpack the archived files like the .zip files referred
to in the above. You can get the archive extractors from many
sites. For Garbo the references to .zip extractors are the
following. The self-extracting MsDos unzip can be obtained as
PKWare's shareware
"202574 Feb 1 02:04 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/arcers/pkz204g.exe"
and Info-ZIP programming group's PD
" 40062 Jan 18 11:06 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/arcers/unz50p1.exe"
The Unix unzip can be obtained as
"299288 Jan 15 08:42 garbo.uwasa.fi:/unix/arcers/unz50p1.tar.Z"
For the instructions to make a tar.Z operational see the ascii file
"garbo.uwasa.fi:/unix/ts/0news-u"
A3: There are some "whereis" questions which tend to recur. Here
are some of them with pointers to further information
Subject: Re: Pc read/write Mac-disks... How!
Pointer: garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/tspost17.zip
:
Subject: MS-DOS 6.2 Step Up upgrade, where and why?
Pointer: garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/tspost17.zip
Item: Re: MsDos 6.2 upload rejected at Garbo
12. *****
Q: What is tar.Z? Where can I find tar for MsDos? What about
uudecode, compress?
A: These formats (tar and Z) are (usually) Unix files. The files
with the .Z extension are compressed files which you'll need to
uncompress. Uncompress is available as a standard feature on Unix
systems (try "man uncompress"). You can get it for MsDos as well eg
as "garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/unix/comp430d.zip". You can also use
/pc/unix/gzip124.zip. For more on this and many similar MsDos
utilities questions recurring over and over again please see for
example Samuel Ko's "The Most Useful MSDOS Programs at SimTel and
Garbo" "garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/filelist/useful*.zip".
Tarred files with the extension of .tar ("tape archives") can be
handled with a tar program on a Unix system, or on MsDos with the
utilities pointed to in "useful*.zip" like "garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/unix/
tar4dos.zoo", "tar312us.zip", "tstar311.zip", and "ltarv3.zip". On
Unix try "man tar". You'll also find some further information in
"/unix/ts/0news-u" of for processing tar files on Unix.
Uuencoding is a 7-bit format for sending files in ordinary ascii
format. On a Unix system see "man uudecode" and for MsDos get
"garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/decode/uuexe524.zip" and/or see gain
"useful*.zip".
13. *****
Q: How do I get it from a mirror site? And which directory?
A: If you have managed to get a pointer to, and the location of a
utility you wish to have, and you would prefer to download it from a
mirror site near you, please consider the following. All the
potential questions concerning the mirroring site are best directed
to the moderator of the site that does the mirroring. Not to the
moderator of the site being mirrored. This is because mirroring is
an independent operation. You can find the email addresses of the
major MsDos mirror sites in the MsDos FTP site list. It is
available as "garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/moder*.zip", where the "*"
stands for a growing version number.
Naturally, don't go asking the moderator to find the directory of
the utility for you. See the site's file list(s). The "moder*.zip"
has pointers to the file lists of some sites, and besides they are
usually well in evidence at the sites.
14. *****
Q: Would someone uuencode and email me the program I want?
A: It is not necessary to try to find someone who might be willing
to do it. That is what the mail servers are for. Watch out for the
periodic information in comp.archives.msdos.announce, or if you wish
to use the garbo.uwasa.fi mail server you are welcome to email me
for the prerecorded instructions (long, about 29Kb) as explained in
the item "How do I obtain the announced files from the MsDos FTP
sites?" the A2 part of the answer.
15. *****
Q: Please email the information directly to me!
A: Unless you genuinely intend to post a summary for the benefit of
the other potentially interested readers of CAM.d, that is quite a
selfish attitude, and is not condoned. To prosper the newsgroup
needs everyone to be ready to contribute one way or the other.
Please see "garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsfaqn*.zip" for more thoughts on
asking for emailed replies.
16. *****
Q: Me too!
A: To avoid this is exactly why we need the users to summarize if
they get useful replies by email. Likewise this is one of the
reasons why I almost always post my own pointers, and very seldom
email, even when the user has explicitly expressed such a wish in
his/her posting. Besides, it often pays take a moment to scan the
postings before rushing to anything. There may already be posted
replies to the question. Please do not post "me too's" even if we
understand why some users do this.
Now what to do if someone is clearly planning to hog the answers
to a question that definitely interests you. The answer is not to
send a "me too", but to point out by email to the poster of the
request that you would like him/her to share the information s/he
gets from the gentle users of CAM.d.
The real point here is, however, that in order for CAM.d to
prosper we need all the gentle users to be also prepared to
contribute, not just to exploit.
17. *****
Q: Where do I get the Zoo, the Zip or the other unarchivers?
A: You can get Zoo and UnZip e.g. as
" 73461 Jul 12 1991 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/arcers/zoo210.exe"
" 40062 Jan 18 11:06 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/arcers/unz50p1.exe"
"202574 Feb 1 02:04 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/arcers/pkz204g.exe"
" 55721 Jul 12 20:00 OAK.Oakland.Edu:/pub/msdos/zoo/zoo210.exe"
" 40062 Jan 19 07:00 OAK.Oakland.Edu:/pub/msdos/zip/unz50p1.exe"
"202574 Jan 18 1993 OAK.Oakland.Edu:/pub/msdos/zip/pkz204g.exe"
For more information, and the rest of the unarchivers reread item
"Where can I find program package xxxxx.zip?" and item "How do I get
it from a mirror site? And which directory?" and/or see
"garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsfaqn*.zip" Frequently Asked Questions.
The unarchivers (and many of the archivers) are available also
for Unix, which means that you can (if you wish to) check and handle
the downloaded files already on your Unix host before transferring
the files to your PC. At Garbo the relevant directory is
/unix/arcers.
18. *****
Q: Where do I find games? Where do I find GIFs?
A: The most publicized sites SimTel and Garbo do not carry
recreational games, but for example ftp.uml.edu (University of
Massachusetts at Lowell, USA) has a very good collection. Also, for
example, nic.funet.fi and wuarchive.wustl.edu carry games.
As for GIFs, that information is not readily available since the
powers that be do not always look benevolently upon using the
resources for the purpose. Perhaps the best avenue for getting them
is calling BBSes (bulletin boards system). One pointer to an
InterNet site, however, is that wuarchive.wustl.edu carries a large
selection of GIFs in their /graphics/gif directory. (That will be
all from me on this.)
19. *****
Q: What if the announced file is not at the archive site?
A: The very first thing to do is assure that you have to the file
name and the directory right. Especially if the announcement is not
very recent, it is possible that the file has been updated again.
Occasionally some updates come at rapid succession. Check the
site's file lit for the current file name and path (most if not all
MsDos archive sites have an index). For SimTel and Garbo the file
lists are
OAK.Oakland.Edu:/pub/msdos/filedocs/simlist.zip
garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/INDEX.ZIP (a binary file)
garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/INDEXTS.ZIP
garbo.uwasa.fi:/unix/UINDEX.ZIP
garbo.uwasa.fi:/windows/WINDEX.ZIP
garbo.uwasa.fi:/ql/QLINDEX (a text file)
If the announcement is recent, the file may not be at a mirroring
site.
Errors in the announced file name or the directory path are very
uncommon, even if the "hand-written" file lists can quite well have
errors. For example Garbo's upload announcement "thank you" notes
are made semi-automatically to prevent the possibility of typing
errors. In case the problem concerns a Garbo file you can make an
additional check by looking at
"garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/_file.zip Sorted filepath list"
21. *****
Q: Where should I post or look if my topic does not belong here?
A: It is not possible to give fool-proof all-round advice on the
alternatives, but it would seem that fairly often one of the groups
below might turn out to be suitable. The (M) means moderated.
comp.answers (Repository for periodic USENET articles) (M)
comp.binaries.ibm.pc (Binary-only postings for IBM PC/MS-DOS) (M)
comp.binaries.ms-windows (Binary programs for Microsoft Windows) (M)
comp.binaries.os2 (Binaries for use under the OS/2 ABI) (M)
comp.compression (Data compression algorithms and theory)
comp.editors (Discussion about editors)
comp.graphics (Computer graphics, art, animation, image proc.)
comp.lang.c (Discussion about C)
comp.lang.pascal (Discussion about Pascal)
comp.os.linux.misc (The free UNIX-clone for the 386/486, LINUX)
comp.os.misc (General OS-oriented discussion)
comp.os.msdos.apps (On MsDos applications, also on fully commercial)
comp.os.msdos.misc (Miscellaneous topics about MS-DOS machines)
comp.os.msdos.programmer (Programming MS-DOS machines)
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy (Speculation and debate about Microsoft Windows)
comp.os.ms-windows.apps (Applications in the Windows environment)
comp.os.ms-windows.misc (General discussions about Windows issues)
comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc (Programming Microsoft Windows)
comp.os.os2.advocacy (Supporting and flaming OS/2)
comp.os.os2.apps (Discussions of applications under OS/2)
comp.os.os2.misc (Miscellaneous topics about the OS/2 system)
comp.os.os2.programmer.misc (Programming OS/2 machines)
comp.sources.testers (Finding people to test software)
comp.sources.unix (Postings of complete, UNIX-oriented sources (M)
comp.sources.wanted (Requests for software and fixes)
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.* (Games for IBM PCs and compatibles, many groups!)
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.misc (Games not covered by other PC games groups)
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.* (PC hardware topics, many groups)
comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc (Discussion about IBM personal computers)
comp.sys.ibm.pc.digest (The IBM PC, PC-XT, and PC-AT) (M)
comp.sys.laptops (Laptop (portable) computers)
comp.sys.mac.apps Discussions of Macintosh applications.
comp.sys.mac.wanted Postings of "I want XYZ for my Mac."
comp.unix.programmer (Q&A for people programming under Unix)
comp.unix.questions (UNIX neophytes group)
comp.virus (Computer viruses & security) (M)
news.answers (Repository for periodic USENET articles) (M)
news.admin.misc (General topics of network news administration)
news.admin.policy (Policy issues of USENET)
news.groups (Discussions and lists of newsgroups)
news.lists (News-related statistics and lists)
news.newusers.questions (Q & A for users new to the Usenet, "newbies")
misc.books.technical (Discussion of books about technical topics)
misc.forsale (Short, tasteful postings about items for sale)
misc.forsale.computers.d (Discussion of misc.forsale.computers.*)
misc.forsale.computers.other (Selling miscellaneous computer stuff)
misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone (IBM PC related computer items)
misc.legal.computing (Discussing the legal aspects of computing)
misc.misc (Discussions not fitting elsewhere)
misc.test (For test messages. Gives feedback of propagation)
alt.flame (Take it to here)
alt.religion.computers (Whatever you believe in and preach in computing)
alt.test (An alternative newsgroup for your test messages)
A tip:
If you do not know where to ask, news.newusers.questions is the
best bet. If you need the complete list of newsgroups, please see
garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/doc-net/newsgrps.zip
22. *****
Q: What if my question is not covered in this FAQ?
A: There is a wealth of further relevant information in the the
"garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsfaqn*.zip" Frequently Asked Questions
collection. Furthermore, there is plenty of additional information
and feedback (much but not all related to Garbo) in the
"garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/tspost*.zip" collections. Start by getting
the index tspost00.zip. It includes the contents lists of all Timo
Salmi's FAQs.
A2: Here are some very common additional questions with more
accurate pointers to the location of the information
Subject: Re: FTP dir scroll, or textfile read
Pointer: garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/tspost07.zip
Pointer: FAQFTP.TXT in garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsfaqn38.zip
23. *****
Q: What has changed in this FAQ since the last time?
A: If you wish to know that, please store the previous version of
this FAQ. Then run it and the new version through any suitable diff
program. (I am too pressed for time to provide also such a service
for you).
31. *****
Q: Acknowledgments for positive contributions for my FAQ maintenance
A: The following persons have contributed in one constructive way
or another for this FAQ. In an alphabetical order Colin Douthwaite,
Michael Evans, Greg Franklin, Jonathan Kamens, John Marter, Keith
Petersen, David Sward, Carlos Teixeira, Doug Tooley, Steve Walters.
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Prof. Timo Salmi Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi BBS +(358)-61-3170972; FIN-65101, Finland