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From: "Norman G. Sippel" <NGSIPPEL@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu>
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Archive-name: ren-n-stimpy/faq
Version: Sun Jan 16 12:44:44 EDT 1994
Written-by: Nick Sayer
Edited-by: Norman Sippel
The Ren And Stimpy Show: Frequently Asked Questions
Written By: Nick Sayer
Cowritten and Edited By: Norman Sippel
Preface. The Explanation Of The F.A.Q.
An F.A.Q. (from now on represented without the dots) is a way to explain
the topic of discussion (Ren And Stimpy) and help newbies and veterans avoid
repetitive posts about a specific sub-topic (like "What was edited out of
'Powdered Toast Man'?"). Before you post a question about R&S, you should
read this document to see if your question has already been answered.
If you have corrections, additions, suggestions, comments, or hairballs,
send them to Norman Sippel at ngsippel@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu with $47
million. There is no guarantee that posted items will make it to my
attention. For it to work, you have to MAIL it. Thank You. (I will only be
on the Internet on the weekends definitely for the summer, so I will answer
any and all questions as soon as possible, usually on the weekends.)
Nick Sayer will probably be happy to answer newbie questions. His
electronic mail address is below in his signature.
Dedications: In remembrance of Frank Zappa, for his music and vocal
talents (as the Pope for example), will surely be missed. I also want to
dedicate the January edition of the documents to the Space Ranger and his
triumphant return to the Internet! Welcome back!! Another special WELCOME
BACK goes to Judex (Joel Schenkle), the bearer of good shows. :) And thank
you for reading this document and sending complimentary emails about it!
This FAQ and the two other Ren And Stimpy documents will be posted every
two weeks, thanks to the local document poster on the Internet. Thank You
Mr. Jonathan Kamens for helping me out and putting up with all the questions
on form and posting these documents on the net!
Copyright Acknowledgment: Before the FAQ continues, I want to
acknowledge the copyrights and trademarks of Nickelodeon, Viacom, and all
the other companies which are mentioned in this document and the other two
(Encyclopedia, Guide). The purpose of the R&S documents (FAQ, Guide,
Encyclopedia) are to inform people, and the documents are kept in my spare
time and are kept for no profit.
Site File Access: This document, if kept on a BBS or a FTP site, must be
kept in a public access section and be available for free; otherwise, the
site/BBS may not carry this document or the other two R&S documents.
Abbreviations:
BTW = By The Way
DYN = Did You Know/Did You Notice?
FAQ = Frequently Asked Questions
IMHO = In My Humble Opinion
IMO = In My Opinion
FYI = For Your Information
R&S = The Ren & Stimpy Show
Nick = Nickelodeon - the network that first aired R&S
MTV = Music Television - Nick's sister station
BHB = Big House Blues
ITA = In The Army
MSMD = Monkey See, Monkey Don't
PTM = Powdered Toast Man
TBWCR = The Boy Who Cried Rat!
SBD = Stimpy's Big Day
CHACS = Commander Hoek and Cadet Stimpy
SSBL = Stimpy's Storybook Land
WWDTT = What'll We Do Till Then?
:** Note **: All times are Eastern Standard Time or Eastern Daylight Time
depending on what time of the year it is, so please make sure you are
careful about scheduling your time for R&S shows.
Changes To FAQ Since Last Time.
-------------------------------
* Expanded airing information of Season 3.
* The bogusness of alt.fan.ren-and-stimpy
* The answer to the question "What is on Kowalski's butt?". Other answers.
* Statuses updated of times for showings around the world.
* Some info. about Billy West and his visit to Miami University.
* A New Section on John K.'s new shows! John K.'s NBC peacock!
* R&S Cereal Offers! More New Products Than You Can Shake Olive Loaf At!
* The Muddy Mudskipper Lyrics Controversy
* The Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen Theme Lyrics
* Information on the Lyrics of "Don't Whiz On The Electric Fence."
* The list of snail mail addresses has been updated.
(If you are looking for info. about Season 3 shows or worldwide showing
lists, check out the R&S Guide and Encyclopedia for details.)
Questions That Need Answers For The FAQ.
----------------------------------------
* What are the current times, places, and episodes for foreign R&S showings?
(are the current ones correct? what about City TV?)
* The R&S Video Games - Systems, Prices, General Info.
* What are the two current videos playing on MTV? Details are needed please.
* What is the exact commercial for the NBC Peacock by John K.?
* What company is producing the R&S cards?
* What company was producing the Nicktoon cards?
* Is there going to be a 1994 R&S calendar?
* More details on the mini-R&S dolls (what is Stimpy's T-Shirt?).
* The exact phrase Mr, Horse says in Spanish in "World Crisis" and
its direct translation (if slightly different).
* Broadcasting Address of stations carrying R&S
* Rumor: Is Joe Pesci one of the circus midgets in "Circus Midgets"?
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Table Of Contents
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Preface. The Explanation Of The FAQ. Abbreviations. Changes. Questions.
1. Who or What is Ren And Stimpy?
2. When and Where can I see Ren And Stimpy (Worldwide)?
3. My site has two Ren And Stimpy newsgroups. What's the deal?
4. How do I pronounce Ren's name?
5. Important Real World Places, People, and Addresses
5a. Who makes Ren And Stimpy?
5b. Where can I send my mail about R&S?
6. What's the deal with the character and shows with "George Liquor"?
7. Commonly Asked Phrases, Places, And People
7a. What are the words to ... ?
7b. What is the meaning behind or origin of ... ?
8. Is it "No sir, I _DON'T_ like it", or "No sir, I _DIDN'T_ like it"?
9. Does anyone have a list of episodes?
10. What is the title of the cartoon that spoofs "Wild Kingdom"?
11. Does Nickelodeon censor Ren And Stimpy?
12. What about the music?
13. Where can I get R&S ... ? (Paraphernalia)
14. Is there a fan club?
15. What about the future of R&S? (R&S Headline News - Summer 1993)
16. What about the comic book?
17. Where can I find archived information on R&S? (E-mail and FTP)
18. Has John K. (the creator of R&S) seen this FAQ
or the other R&S documents?
19. What are John Kricfalusi's future projects? (NEW SECTION!)
20. Our Signatures (and Ren and Stimpy ASCII pictures)
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The Ren And Stimpy Show: Frequently Asked Questions
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This Edition Overrides All Previous Editions Up To
And Including August 1993.
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1. Who or What is Ren And Stimpy?
"The Ren & Stimpy Show" is one of four (see R&S Headline News) new cartoon
shows (collectively known as "The Nicktoons") produced by Nickelodeon, a
Cable TV channel in North America. The two main characters are an
"asthma-hound" chihuahua named "Ren Hoek" (with an umlaut over the o), and a
cat named "Stimpson J. Cat". The show's attraction is its shameless and
gross physical humor, often consisting of nose-picking and farts (though
there's more to it than that). It is suitable (and funny) for the whole
family, though some have called it an acquired taste.
2. When and Where can I see R&S (Worldwide)?
A. United States
Currently, R&S can only be seen via cable TV or satellite. It airs on
Nickelodeon (aka SNICK on Saturday nights) Saturday evening at 9 PM
(Pacific/Eastern). It also airs Sunday mornings at 11 AM (Pacific/Eastern),
though it appears that this time slot will continue with reruns. MTV is also
airing the second season, apparently, but no hard information has reached
this author. MTV showings are inferior to the showing on Nick, since they
stick the MTV logo on the lower right corner and have more commercials. (By
the way, SNICK has also started adding their own logos to each cartoon.) MTV
also compresses the audio badly and doesn't start the show on time.
Incidentally, MTV Networks, Inc., owns Nick. Apparently MTV is owned in
large part by Viacom. On the marathon of January 1993, MTV didn't have the
logo but edited the music of "Sven Hoek" and most show's order of cartoons.
By the way, during the second season of R&S and the fourth season of "The
Simpsons," Nick gave permission to Gracie Films to use R&S during "A Brother
From The Same Planet." It was storyboarded or laid out (maybe both) by
Chris Reccardi, one of the original people on R&S. On April 15, another
mention of R&S made it onto "The Simpsons"; the set-up was at the Emmys
where the R&S slide was not ready :).
MTV has random airings of the show (see your local television book for times
if any), and Nick had "Nick-Mania" weekend with 8 of the best Ren And
Stimpys during the afternoon. Nick-Mania happened on April 24 and 25, 1993.
Nick Mania for the weekend of May 8 and 9 has "SNICK Mania" so
that R&S will be played two times, once for each SNICK. No more mass
airings have been planned, but R&S were participants in the Slime Time
Sweepstakes of both 1992 and 1993 editions.
SEASON 3 BEGINS ON NOVEMBER 20, 1993, according to Billy West when he came
to Miami University on October 6, 1993. More details about his speech are
in a post I made which is looking for a ftp site. MTV is playing "Fire
Dogs" and another video of R&S in their rotation currently.
"Son Of Stimpy" was aired (with a minor scene cut) on Nickelodeon twice
during the Holiday season. Oh Joy!
B. Canada
From Paul Engler (engler@cpsc.ucalgary.ca):
Thanks for all the info you gave me yesterday. However, after reading the
R&S FAQ I noticed that it is lacking the broadcast times in Canada. Up here
the show airs at 8:30 EST, and 16:30 EST every Thursday, and again at 12:30
EST Friday, on Much Music. (I'm sure this channel is available off of
satellite although I can't remember where. It should be in any of the many
monthly satellite guides.) The interesting thing about this is that they are
still broadcasting all the episodes, including PTM which ran last Thursday,
March 6.
From ecurrent@zooid.guild.org:
Don't forget that it's shown in Canada on MuchMusic (basically our version
of MTV) on Thursdays at 12:30 PM (and since Much programs in blocks that are
repeated several times a day, it is also repeated at 8:30 PM, and 4:30 AM &
8:30 AM on Friday). Much started airing R&S in September, 1992, and there
was much happiness and rejoicing amongst those of us who had been surviving
for months on bootlegged videos smuggled across the border. :-) They first
aired all of the first season episodes in the same order as their original
airings on Nick. They were then shown a second time, in the same order, and
then during the third "loop" of first season episodes (sometime in January,
1993), they began airing the second season, once again in the same order as
the original Nick showings. As of the end of February, 1993, they had aired
all of the second season shows except for "Fake Dad" and "Monkey See, Monkey
Don't" and they have started repeating the second season from the beginning
once again.
It's also worth noting that Much always airs episodes in the same form as
their *original* Nick airings, so edits that appear in later Nick airings
(i.e. the cuts to "PTM", etc.) are not reflected in the Much airings. Much
also aired "Son of Stimpy", which was only aired on MTV in the US, not on
Nick.
From Trevor Paul Bugera (umbuger2@ccu.umanitoba.ca):
On MUCHMUSIC's news show they had a little clip that Much was going to cut
R&S from the schedule after thursday, but in August (around the 7-9th) they
are going to have what they called all 13 episodes back to back. Tis a
shame because it is my only source of R&S. I'll have to tape them.
Editor's Note: The marathon was aired August 14, 1993, followed by Weird Al
Television. MuchMusic's original versions of R&S may be replaced with
edited ones if they return. City TV has rights to air R&S in Canada now,
but when it starts is still a mystery. A video of "The Royal Canadian
Kilted Yaksmen Theme" is being broadcasted, and according to rumor, it has
charted #30 on the MuchMusic top songs of the week recently.
From Jack Lee (cjlee@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca):
In Toronto, Ontario, Canada, R&S is being shown on CITY-TV Channel 57 on
Wednesdays @ 8pm. Two episodes at a time!
From Adam Frampton (frampton@access.digex.net):
The Canadian government is going on the Internet, starting November 5.
Some nice little places to flame-- er send constructive critism are:
Canadian Brodcasting Commision: utgpu!plan9!chyk!<cbc@utcc.utoronto.ca
(is this the place that banned RnS??)
C TV (did they air RnS?): utgpu!plan9!chyk!<ctv@utcc.utoronto.ca
There are several other channels.. but no MuchMusic. See the EFFector
newsletter for a complete listing (issue 6.02 I believe)
C. United Kingdom
As of September 1, 1993, Nickelodeon is broadcasting on some cable systems
in the United Kingdom (what and which cable systems?). Nick has opted not to
show R&S in the UK, but instead, they sold the rights to BBC2. Details of
this deal are sketchy, but will be added here as soon as I get them.
** UK R&S Fans: Please send e-mail of the official UK times of
R&S so it can be added to the FAQ!
From Edwin Yau (ey@unix.brighton.ac.uk):
>Norman G. Sippel (ngsippel@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu) writes:
>I was wondering...isn't EuroNick playing R&S? Wouldn't BBC2 overlap or
>some junk?. :)
As far as I can tell from satellite listings and so on (and unless any UK
satellite viewer can prove me wrong), EuroNick hasn't been showing R&S at
all! Somehow the BBC managed to get a hold of it first! I guess it's their
answer for not getting "The Simpsons" for non-satellite viewers. At present
R&S will most likely be scheduled for an evening (6pm) air-time on Def-II,
either on Tuesday or Friday.
D. New Zealand
From Mark Weatherhead (ZOOL175@csc.canterbury.ac.nz):
At the moment R&S is being aired on Channel 2 at 6:00pm on Saturdays. They
are currently showing (again) mostly episodes from the first series, we have
hardly seen any of the second series.
Unfortunately, R&S seems to attract a lot of attention from the sort of
people who believe that they "know best" what people should and shouldn't be
watching, so probably the program will be re-scheduled at a different
time--again.
From Paul Q. (physajh@otago.ac.nz):
Ren & Stimpy in NEW ZEALAND has gone from obscurity to dementia. Not only is
it now prime time T.V. (yes, yes I knew it was on WHAT NOW but I'm usually
still unconscious at 0800 hours Saturday, and Yes, Yes I saw SOME episodes
at 4.30pm but I usually still have a headache then too!!)
Anyway in NEW ZEALAND our major national T.V. and Radio Magazine stated in
an entire one page article the following facts.
Editor's Note: NZ showings are on the rocks as well as Canadian showings.
Keep looking in your TV book for times and channels. Listings for NZ shows
have been provided by Kerrin Jones (Kerrin.Jones@comp.vuw.ac.nz) in the R&S
Encyclopedia. Kerrin has a temporary lapse in Internet service and hopes to
be back on soon; until then, a friend will e-mail the list for Kerrin.
E. Australia
From Darren O'Shaughnessy (darren@cs.anu.edu.au):
The Ren & Stimpy show is being shown in Australia on Network Ten's "The Big
Breakfast". It runs from about 7:30 - 8:00, Monday to Friday, although the
time does vary. No cuts appear to have been made, and the episodes seem to
be in the right order, without omissions (so far). The first episode was
screened 5/7/93 (7/5/93 to you yanks).
From Gerald C. Chick (g.chick@trl.oz.au):
Ren & Stimpy has been showing since 5 July 1993 (or maybe earlier, but I
think that was the first episode), daily at approximately 7:30 AM on the
TEN Network's Big Breakfast Show. If advertisements for NERF-pellet machine
pistols (with imitation Borg) and "Tinkle Tots" make you want to chunder,
set your video.
Editor's Note: Listings for this have been provided by Darren O'Shaughnessy
(darren@cs.anu.edu.au) in the R&S Encyclopedia.
From Zik Saleeba (zik@zikzak.apana.org.au):
>freako@suburbia.apana.org.au (damian caynes) writes:
>Here in oz we get ren n stimpy at a ridiculous timeslot, like 7:30am on
>monday... this is damn awkward and i've only caught one episode, tho i was
>hooked instantly. I was half asleep and they were goin off like Itchy &
>Scratchy on illegal substances, and it was preeeeeeeety strange...
And what's worse they're moving it to 7am starting tomorrow! It's
being edged out to make space for "The Adventures of T Rex" - Jurassic
Park has a lot to answer for :-( Imagine the horror at hauling
yourself out of bed at 7:30am only to catch a last few tantalising
seconds of Ren'n'Stimpy followed by some trashy dinosaur `toon.
Eucccch!
From Darren O'Shaughnessy (Darren.OShaughnessy@cs.anu.edu.au):
>From: Norman G. Sippel (ngsippel@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu):
>
> Darren,
>
> I can wait till this weekend to upload the new FAQ, so I'll wait for your
> update tomorrow (if you would please include new shows). Can you give me
> more on this "Maynard F#" and "JJJ" ? What are they?
>
The TV guide says that Ren & Stimpy's timeslot (7 a.m. Monday) has been
taken by some monstrosity called "Piggsburgh Pigs". I don't know when, if
ever, we'll see more episodes :( Lucky I've got them all on tape to watch at
my leisure.
Maynard F# Crabbes is a mad DJ on the national alternative radio
network JJJ. He liberally intersperses so-called normal music with stuff
like ABBA, Weird Al Yankovic, and now Ren & Stimpy, and has a penchant for
Hawaiian shirts, flares, and rectangular specs. Do you really want to know
more? 8*}
Editor's Note: Send them mail that you want R&S back! Check out the
address' section of the FAQ!
F. Iceland
From Jon Ingi Ingimundarson (jii@rhi.hi.is):
Our state-owned television RUV started broadcasting the first season
shows two weeks ago. Currently they've shown show #3 and show #6
as listed in the Ren and Stimpy FAQ. It airs Wednesday at 6:30pm.
The listing in the papers goes something like this:
"Ren and Stimpy: A cartoon show about the dog Ren and the cat
Stimpy."
The tv-station has apparently bought 6 episodes.
They were shown on our state-owned televsion station RUV (Rikisutvarpid-
Sjonvarp). RUV broadcasts between ca. 18:00-23:30 weekdays and 12:00-
1:00 weekends. And show around 5-10 US shows each week (this week
it's 4). Why RandS were chosen is a mystery to me.
Although they were shown at a very bad time (18:30) they got an ok
publicity and luckily weren't dragged into the whole Beavis+Butthead,
The Program stupidity.
The shows were shown complete, without (as usual) commercials and in
Stereo. (Editor's Note: Maybe I should move to get uncut episodes? :)
It is not certain that season 2 will be shown here since tv-stations
often buy shows only for one season and then move onto the next show.
Editor's Note: Jon keeps a listing of episodes for Iceland in the R&S
encyclopedia. If you like it, e-mail him your compliments!
G. Other Nations, Countries, and Uncharted Regions Of Space
Dozens of other countries have or will be getting R&S. Please e-mail the
times, places, and other relevant information if you want your country
(especially United Kingdom) added to this section. (And no, home video
airings don't count :)
One person e-mailed me asking "Can I do an airing list?" I told them to
please make it clear and consise, use my numbering scheme (confusion is
minimized by using standardization between continents), and if they want me
to add it to the R&S Encyclopedia, please follow a nice format (use mine as
an example if you wish).
All countries are appreciated!! John K. will soon get to see this section,
so please, let him know you are watching!!
Note To Country Episode Keepers: Please e-mail your new lists when they are
ready, and please continue using the R&S Encyclopedia numbering system. Good
job on your work and thank you for your continuing support!
3. My site seems to get two R&S newsgroups. What's the deal?
At the time a newsgroup for R&S was being discussed, the original idea was
for the alt.fan group. Many (including Nick Sayer) counter-proposed that it
should be under alt.tv. When it came time to create the groups, both
newsgroups went out. It is the poster's opinion that since it is a TV show,
it belongs in alt.tv. The alt.tv group is not called 'ren-and-stimpy'
because that would be too long for certain (broken) news programs and
operating systems. 'ren-&-stimpy' is inappropriate because it contains a
non-alphanumeric character other than '- or _'.
Many sites, like the editor's, have both newsgroups' postings going into one
newsgroup, so duplicate postings will be prevalent at times.
Currently, UseNet considers alt.fan.ren-and-stimpy bogus, but people are
still using it. They are trying to stop using it, but it doesn't seem too
successful. If you know about the current situation about the "bogusness"
of alt.fan.ren-and-stimpy, please e-mail me. Recently, I received an e-mail
expressing the bogusness of it and trying to get me to convert to alt.tv
when I posted there the other day.
*:NOTE:* As an added bonus, keep tabs on rec.arts.animation and rec.arts.tv
for R&S news because some people do NOT get the R&S newsgroups. Also,
rec.music.dementia will have lists of the Dr. Demento show's Funny Five
which sometimes features the "Happy Happy Joy Joy" and "Don't Whiz On The
Electric Fence" songs!
4. How do I pronounce Ren's name?
The name is apparently Dutch [*], and thus an English pronunciation will
only be approximate. It ends up as "Hork" (rhymes with "pork"). They play
with this in the show and intentionally mispronounce it "HO-ack" or "HO-ehk"
from time to time. His first name rhymes with "pen," of course.
[*] From what we know about Ren's cousin Sven, he is Danish.
It seems like both Ren and Sven are a mixture of different European
cultures.
5a. Who makes R&S?
The creative force behind R&S is John Kricfalusi. He is also Ren's voice.
John K.'s last name is pronounced "KRIS-fah-loo-see". He is 36 and from
Ottawa.
John K is "stunned" that so many adults watch R&S. (See #18 for the scoop
about his reaction to this FAQ)
From ebh@mink.att.com:
He [John K] was a major creative force (under the [Ralph] Bakshi umbrella)
behind the New Adventures of Mighty Mouse, and he was also involved with The
Jetsons.
Stimpy's voice is Billy West. Billy West is also the voice of "Doug," one of
the other Nicktoons. West used to work at WBCN in Boston, which is famous
for shock-radio. He is also "Announcer," "Sven," "Ren," and "Flies (from
Ren's Toothache)" according to _Film_Threat_ (and what I know). (I have a
file about his background I have posted. E-mail me for it or if you have an
FTP site I can put it on please.)
When John K. left R&S, Billy West is doing Ren on an interim basis until a
new person could be found. He debuted on "What'll We Do Till Then?" with
Stimpy blowing himself up like a balloon. Vanessa Coffey, the producer for
all the Nicktoons, has announced that they are looking through talent
agencies for a replacement.
Billy West is scheduled to come to Miami University of Ohio in early
October. More details will be posted when I get them (and yes, Miami is
where I go to college).
Second season credits list "The Spumco Players" or "The Players", presumably
the voice artists. They include (from "In The Army / Powdered Toast Man"):
Harris Peet, Cheryl Chase, Michael Pataki, Bob Camp, Vincent Waller, John
K., Jim Smith, Henry Porch, Charlie Birssette and Billy West. Many of these
are people with other jobs within Spumco.
So far there have been two acknowledged guest stars: Gary Owens as Powdered
Toast Man, and Frank Zappa as The Pope (both in "Powdered Toast Man"). Gary
Owens has also appeared in several bumpers as the part of the announcer.
Three unannounced guest stars have appeared on R&S. In "Stimpy's Fan Club,"
Soleil Moon Frye (of "Punky Brewster" fame) was one of the fans. In "Visit
To Anthony", Randy Quaid guest stars, and Anthony plays himself.
The creative organization is called "Spumco". The company motto is "The
Danes call it quality." ("Spumco" has also been reportedly an acronym which
has long been forgotten.) See #7b for details.
The boy whose picture is shown with the motto is Jimmy, the hapless boy -
the company mascot (From lazlo@triton.unm.edu). It's said that he is John
K.'s oldest creation for T.V. and his "best" character (_Cinfantastique_).
After John K. was fired, there was a split. A "puppet" company called
"Games Productions" (a.k.a. "Stabco" and "Milkmen") makes and creates Ren
And Stimpy. John K. is on his own with Spumco making "George Liquor" and "He
Hog" for this fall. Games Productions is very tightly controlled by Nick, so
their scripts don't seem to be half as funny as John K.'s where he was wild,
wacky, and funny.
Billy West ended up getting the job of Ren (for Season 2 though), and Ron
Hughart is now directing some of the shows. Ron H. works within the
organization as a Timing Director. Recently, Games Productions changed its
name to Games Animations. What this exactly means for R&S is yet to be seen.
5b. Where can I send my mail about R&S?
****************************************************************************
If the Tiny Toons fans can write in and get results, why not us?! :) Please
write into Nickelodeon! Tell them whether you like seeing weeks of reruns,
the quality of material decreasing, or any other gripes or compliments about
R&S! Your letter does count if we all do our part in sending them in!!!!
****************************************************************************
John K. responded to my letter, so let Spumco know you exist! :) OH JOY!!
****************************************************************************
*:NOTE:* Avoid using standardized letters--they look bad because Nick would
think only a few people are writing in instead of hundreds and are usually
thrown away. Be original :).
****************************************************************************
From eediot@bloated.sack.usa:
Ren Hoek And Stimpson J. Cat
1004 John K.'s Creations Memorial Blvd.
Hollywood, Yugoslavia, Europe 55555 (I couldn't help myself:)
From zuckerma@aludra.usc.edu:
Spumco International (that's how it's listed in the Greater LA phone book)
5625 Melrose Avenue (Editor's Note: Second Floor, according to Jenny Lerew)
Hollywood, CA 90038
(Home of John Kricfalusi and the other starving artists:)
It's located a few blocks west of the Paramount Studios lot.
Other important addresses from Joel Schenkle (donnell@polyp.micro.umn.edu):
President Of Viacom: Nickelodeon:
Sumner Redstone Nickelodeon Headquarters
98 Baldpate Hill Road 1515 Broadway, 21st Fl.
Newton, Mass. 02160 New York City, N.Y. 10036
(a big shot) (home of Geraldine Laybourne, Pres. of Nick)
MuchMusic: (Any other foreign addresses of R&S stations?)
(From djcl@io.org and Toastman P. Bugera [umbuger2@ccu.umanitoba.ca])
MuchMusic
299 Queen Street West
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
M5V 2Z5
(Canadian source of R&S)
**
From Alojz Kiseli (9045387u@lux.levels.unisa.edu.au):
Well, the address for Channel 10 in Adelaide (where I live) is
125 Strangeways Tce.
Nth Adelaide S.A. 5006
Phone no: (08) 239 1010
I've already given them a call, they don't seem to know much about it.
Is it sheer ignorance? I doubt it....
Try ask the guys on the newsgroups to lobby channel 10 in their state,
that way if we get enough support, something might actually happen.
Fingers crossed...
**
In _Wild_Cartoon_Kingdom_, they want copies of letters people are sending
into Nickelodeon. If you want to let them have a copy (which they may
reprint and let Nick publicly know you don't like the situation) or whether
you approve/disprove their publicity of R&S, here's their address:
Wild Cartoon Kingdom
9171 Wilshire Blvd., #300
Beverly Hills, California 90210
(pro John K. media)
If you send letters to bring back the funniness and wackiness into Ren and
Stimpy or something similar, please treat these people with respect. Is
there a public address for Games Productions/Animations?
**** Write In! John Switzer (from alt.fan.ren-n-stimpy) wrote in and got
into _Ren_And_Stimpy_Exposed_ magazine! (And thanks for submitting our 1992
presidential slogans, John!) Tell them you want the real R&S--no substitutes!
And comments, suggestions, additions, deletions, and/or corrections should
be sent to ngsippel@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu. See the preface and #17 for more
details.
6. What's the deal with the character and shows with "George Liquor" ?
Nick has had a struggle with the character "George Liquor." He is a
"typical" macho man (who shares hobbies with "Earl Pitts, American," if you
have heard his funny commentaries created by Gary Burbank on 700 WLW in
Cincinnati, Ohio, but without the beer [for now]) who likes to treat R&S
like they're in the army. He likes guns (as shown in _Film_Threat_) and
wants to win at everything. He is your average plain egotistical guy who
treats everyone rough especially Mr. Horse and The Judge in "Dog Show."
Nick shudders at this character because he is so "adult." His cartoons are
probably the ones which John K. got himself into trouble. We see a glimpse
of him in "The Boy Who Cried Rat!" as the man who runs R&S out of the trash
cans; he also appears in "Robin Hoek" as the sheriff. The second season
basically revolves around him. He was the one who sent R&S to the army (and
gave Ren the $20 which he in turn gave to the Sergeant), dog show (and gave
Ren the barbed treatment), and many other places (including in "In The Army"
where R&S have a picture of him on the wall between their beds). He treats
them with little respect and kindness, so when Ren revolts against George,
he throws a fit. In "Man's Best Friend," there is a scene where Ren hits
George over the head with a oar for 3 minutes and in slow motion once (which
will be cut out of the final version, by the way) for a total of over twenty
hits.
This type of violence wasn't taken lightly by Nick; they banned "Dog Show"
and "Man's Best Friend." In _R&S_Exposed_ magazine, they totally ignored
the character completely. When George was first presented, someone in Nick
thought his last name was "lick her"; Nick still didn't like the idea of a
character named after a chemical depressant. The jury is still out on the
future of his cartoons and his character. The official word is that George
Liquor was given back to John K. (because of Nick's so-called ruined image)
and will be appearing in future Spumco projects. Currently, there is a deal
in the works for George to appear in his own show for FOX or another network.
George Liquor is played by Michael Pataki. He has appeared in many movies
and series, including the most recent appearances as the voice of "The Cow"
on "The New Adventures of Mighty Mouse" and "Sewer King" on "Batman: The
Animated Series." He's been on several "Star Trek" shows and movies, both
new and old.
June 1993: "Man's Best Friend" is being re-animated according to
_Cinfantastique_ magazine, June 1993, so George is going soft for Nick.
John K. is going to bring back George in a show with Jimmy The Hapless Boy
in a similar format and attitudes as R&S in the fall.
BTW, he's my favorite character on R&S besides R&S and PTM :).
July 1993: I want to mention that Nick shudders at George with the same
shudders as Ren. They don't like Ren mad or upset because they think it
will scare the kids. Bologna.
October 1993: Billy West expressed that Nick is going to have "Man's Best
Friend" re-animated. Those joiks! :(
December 1993: George, according to _Wild_Cartoon_Kingdom_ issue 2, was
handed back to John K. from Nick conditionally. For example, he can't be a
child molester or a mass murderer. (John K. was quoted to say something to
the effect, "How many people does he need to kill to make him a mass
murderer?" :)
7a. What are the words to...
... the 'Log' song?
"What rolls down stairs alone or in pairs
rolls over your neighbor's dog?
What's great for a snack and fits on your back?
It's Log, Log, Log!
It's Log, Log, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood.
It's Log, Log, it's better than bad, it's good!
Everyone wants a log! You're gonna love it, Log!
Come on and get your log! Everyone needs a Log!"
... the words to Stimpy's insane ravings in "Mad Dog Hoek"?
From _Cinfantastique_ magazine, June 1993, p. 46:
"I like Darren, he is my friend! I like you AND him--he
likes me and I like him!! He likes you, I HOOOOPE! I LIKE
HIS AUTOGRAPH, IT IS A NICE PICTURE!!!!! HE IS NIIIIICCEE!!!"
... the jingle for "Sugar Sod Pops"?
"If you like grass, if you like dirt,
eat Sugar Sod Pops, it can't hurt!"
... the Oath?
"I do hereby promise only to watch the Ren & Stimpy show,
to make under-leg noises during the good scenes,
to wear unwashed lederhosen every single day of
the rest of my life."
At least one poster claims 'under-leg' is underling,
but the consensus is for the former. Under-leg noises
being farts, of course. (Hardly an episode goes by
that someone doesn't cut one). Underlings are people
working under a boss. So the former makes more sense.
By the way, Under-leg is the proper spelling, not "underleg,"
according to the R&S calendar. (Also appeared in the R&S Comics)
... the words to the "New Fan Initiation" Oath Of Servitude?
(Bring $1 million in small change before reciting:)
I, (Insert Full Name Here), human, promise to watch the R&S Show
until my eyeballs implode, even if it goes into 10 years of reruns!
(And?!) I promise to memorize whole episodes and recite the lines
shamelessly in unwelcome situations. (And? And? Oh Yeah!) I promise
to wear unwashed lederhosen every single day of the rest of my life!
(That's It! You're in our secret club!)
... Nurse Stimpy's oath?
"I do solemnly swear by the sacred bedpan to fix the patient,
and ease his wretched suffering, even until all hope is lost."
... The Muddy Mudskipper theme song?
"Who's the greatest mudskipper of them all?
Who can skip in the mud with the greatest of ease?
What kind of wonderful guy?
Who can crawl like a dog without scraping his knees? [*]
Who's got segmented eyes?
It's Muddy Mudskipper, it's Muddy Mudskipper
It's the Muddy Mudskipper show!"
[*] According to _Wild_Cartoon_Kingdom_ (a Film Threat publication),
they claim the line should be "Who can skip in the mud without breaking
his knees." Which is correct?
... Stimpy's "Gritty Kitty" poem?
"Gritty Kitty ain't so pretty, but it's really thick
It fills my cat box oh so snug, it always does the trick
I like to rub it on my toes and squish and squish and squish
It ne'er offends my tender nose, like a smelly fish
Its texture is a joy to me, it's just as smooth as silk
It makes my little whiskers twitch, it stays crunchy even in milk
I may not be the president, I may not be the pope
But as long as I have Gritty Kitty, I shall never mope."
... The "Happy Happy Joy Joy" song?
"Hello, boys and girls. This is your old pal, Stinky Wizzleteats. [*]
This is a song about a whale. No! This is a song about being happy!
That's right! It's the Happy Happy Joy Joy song!
[chorus]
Happy Happy Joy Joy Happy Happy Joy Joy
Happy Happy Joy Joy Happy Happy Joy Joy
Happy Happy Joy Joy Happy Happy Joy Joy
Happy Happy Joy Joy Joy!
I don't think you're happy enough! That's right! I'll teach you to
be happy! I'll teach your grandmother to suck eggs! Now, boys and
girls, let's try it again!
[chorus]
If'n you aint the grandaddy of all liars! The little critters of
nature... They don't know that they're ugly! That's very funny, a
fly marrying a bumblebee! I told you I'd shoot! But you didn't
believe me! Why didn't you believe me?!
[chorus without last line]
Happy Happy Happy Happy
Happy Happy Happy Happy
Happy Happy Joy Joy Joy!"
* Stinky's last name debate is over. The calendar of R&S and
the flood of fall 1992 articles about our twisted twosome
(including U.S.A. Today newspaper) has supported "Wizzleteats."
... Ren's speech just before going to sleep in "In The Army?"
"Good night, Stimpy. Now all I need is eight hours of
uninterrupted sleep."
... Ren's speech after the peeling-H-bombs scene in "In The Army"?
"Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper
of the cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he
knows it. That's why he's gonna kill us. So we have to beat it.
Yeah. Before he lets loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry,
little missy! I'll save you!"
... The Hangin' Song in "Out West"?
"OOOOhhh, Lord loves a hangin', that's why he give us necks
It tightens up our vocal chords, and loosens up our pecs.
So if you are a horse thief and guilty to the bone,
Go ahead and blame a friend and you won't hang alone!
It may be hard to swaller, but you'll be three feet taller,
And find new ways to entertain your friends.
You say you are a villian, but can't abide by killin',
Go ahead and steal yourself a horse.
Two three eleven or five seven [take it, boys].
I'm a pickin' and I'm a swingin'!
I'm ignorant, and I'm ugly!
That you are, boys.
OOOOhhh, The Lord loves a hangin', and so do we by heck!
So go and get a lasso and decorate your neck!
Oh we is awful ignorant and uglier than sin,
so go ahead and cut us down... And hang us all again!
Hangin', that is. Swing a spell.
(Ya'll bring the kids next time, ya hear?)" [*]
[*] This line was edited out at the last minute. This line came
from the article from _Film_Threat_ magazine.
... the words to the "Royal Canadian Yaksmen Anthem"?
Follow the bouncing Ren as you sing! (Karaoke Time:)
"Our country reeks of trees,
Our yaks are very large,
And they smell like rotting beef carcasses.
And we have to clean up after them
And our saddle sores are the best.
We proudly wear women's clothing
And searing sand blows up our skirts.
And the buzzards, they soar overhead,
And poisonous snakes will devour us whole,
Our bones will bleach in the sun.
And we will probably go to /hell/ [*],
And that is our great reward,
For being The-uh Ro-yal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen!"
(Repeat As Necessary)
[*] Hell is never said but is bleeped out all the time and is crossed out in
the Karaoke section. (And yes, Karaoke is spelled correctly!:)
... Ren's crazy speech in "Space Madness"?
"...I'll just lie back and think pleasant thoughts.
Chicken pot pie... Chocolate covered RAIsins...
EEGlazed Hammmmm... They think I'm crazy... But I
know better... It is not I who am crazy... It is
I who am MAD!... Didn't you hear 'em? Didn't you
see the crowds?!! Oh my beloved ice cream bar...
How I love to lick your creamy center... eeyaaarghruch...
eeyaarghrunch... eeyaarghrunch... And your oh-so-nutty
chocolate covering... You're not like the others...
You like the same things I do... Wax paper...
Boiled football leather... Dog breath... WE'RE NOT
HITCHHIKING ANYMORE... WE'RE RIDING...
(Stimpy: "Stop it. You're talking crazy")
Oh no... I know what you want... You coveteth my ice
cream bar!
(Stimpy: "Come on now")
No you don't! You can't take it from me now!
I've had this ice cream bar since I was a child...
People... Always trying to take it from me... Why don't they
leave me ALONE?!!!
(Stimpy: "Easy now...")
Back off man!!!... Don't make me use this... One
step closer, I'm warning ya... Don't make me use it!
Now you've done it! You... forced me to use it!!!...
... the words to Stimpy's Ode To Ren commercial?
"What is a friend?
A friend misses you when you are away, for even for a short while,
A friend is always there to try your latest inventions,
and to protect you from yourself, and only a true friend would scratch
your back, pluck your eyebrows, do your nails, and brush your teeth
all out of the goodness of his heart. Ren is my best pal.
[Announcer: R&S - an ode to friendship.]"
... the words to the song about the board game in "Sven Hoek" ?
"Don't whiz on the electric fence!" (TV Show Version)
Someone timed a test print of the segment of this song and
reported to the group that 3-4 lines of song is missing. The song has
turned up on the R&S CD "You Eediot" in its full glory.
... the words Sven repeats in "Sven Hoek" ?
From: David R. Zinkin (zinkin@eerie.acsu.buffalo.edu)
I just checked my tape of "Sven Hoek" to confirm the quote. It's
"Daaaah, he is Ole, you are Sven. He is Ole, you are Sven."
Sven says it twice, once after Sven tells him to "say something
intelligent" and once after Stimpy says "Daaah, hello, superior
creature!"
Editor's Note: Sven says this a total of four times and holds up
his hat everytime he says it.
... Mr. Horse's Spanish response in "World Crisis"?
Ren claims it translates to "No sir, he doesn't like it," but
Mike Loux discovered a hidden joke.
From Mike Loux (mloux@rm42.ucc.uconn.edu):
"Las cucarachas entran, pero no pueden salir."
(The cockroaches enter, but they can't leave)
7b. What is the meaning behind or origin of...
[ Much of the items that seem like obscure or trivial humor are in
fact non sequiturs. There's no meaning. They're just there for the
hell of it. ]
... Hwarfing?
The action of Stimpy coughing up a hairball (usually on Ren).
(This should end the debate on its spelling.)
... Vitamin "F" in "Powdered Toast With Vitamin 'F'"?
"F" is for "Fart." (No big surprise:)
... "Raymond Spum" or "Spum"?
Raymond Spum is a joke and a made-up alias for John Kricfalusi. Anytime
he didn't like a cartoon he worked on or was in protest about it, he
used this fictitious name. John K. also used it in the first season
credits. All the stories about him are fiction; what do you think R&S
is? :)
Blaine Erickson (erickson@uhunix.uhcc.hawii.edu) has posted to the
group adding that "spum" is not a real Danish word, and that the
Danish word for quality is "kvalitet".
John K. has claimed that "spum" is a brand name of a product in
Denmark.
... "George Liquor"?
In _Film_Threat_ magazine, John K. said that he saw a sign in the late
seventies with the words "George Liquor". He was so crazy over the name
(and the fact that someone forgot to put in the possessive) that he went
and drew the picture. (The sign was for a business selling alcohol,
obviously.) By the way, his cousin's name is Corn Liquor and was going
to appear in a future episode called "Hillbilly Hoek" (_Cinfantastique_
magazine). (This episode will probably not be produced unfortunately.)
See the George Liquor section for more details.
... "Stinky Wizzleteats"?
According to _Cinfantastique_ magazine, it came from "The Littlest
Giant" when Bob Camp talked about Ren's Cow's "Wizzled Teats".
John K. loved it so much, he used it as a name.
... The Crocostimpy Bus? [ "Untamed World" ]
Non sequitur. For the original joke according to _Cinfantastique_
magazine, the Crocostimpy was going to say "What's The Big Sleep, Ren?"
(a reference to Big House Blues quote by Stimpy) and hop onto the bus.
A bunch of lady Crocostimpies were going to follow the bus on foot
and yell "He's dead, you idoit! Don't you know what dead is?"
Now you know the rest of the story.
... "We're not hitchhiking anymore! We're riding!" [ "Space Madness" ]
From jeffy@athena.mit.edu:
This is apparently from the movie "Centurion." The line was
delivered by Kirk Douglas (see below).
From Jon Bondurant (gowan@sugar.NeoSoft.COM):
This is actually wrong. I've seen the movie several times and
it's actually _Champion_. Kirk Douglas plays a loner who boxes one night
to get out of debt and later decides to take it up as a profession. At
one point, he goes off the deep end and becomes very self-serving and
full of himself. He tries to convince his brother, Connie, that it's
all for the best. (paraphrased) "C'mon, Connie..we're in the big time,
we've made it. We're not hitchhiking any more, we're riding!"
It's actually a pretty good movie.
... The face that rises and sets over Hollywood during "Stimpy's Big
Day?"
From ebh@mink.att.com:
The face is apparently Kirk Douglas. According to John K.,
Kirk Douglas was the [partial?] inspiration for Ren.
... The various narrations in the "Happy Happy Joy Joy" song?
"I'll teach your grandmother to suck eggs"
This apparently paraphrases an old saying. There are many film and
TV uses of this phrase. It means (roughly) to teach someone
what they already know. Furthermore, "to suck eggs" is apparently
a euphemism for nosing into other people's business.
From zeus@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu:
"The little critters of nature -- They don't know that they're ugly."
This is a line from the film "Summer Magic" starring Berl Ives and
Hayley Mills.
... Ren's various insane ravings?
So far Ren has been portrayed as being outright insane in
at least two cartoons (his general level of sanity is
as questionable as any cartoon character's, of course,
but we're talking serious psychosis here): "In The Army"
after he's done peeling H-bombs, and in "Space Madness".
During both of these intervals Ren gives speeches that
are as nutty as a fruitcake. Talking about running from
marmosets, boiled football leather, things like that.
As far as the net knows (at the moment), these are simply things
that the writer(s) thought were silly enough for a raving looney
to think sensible.
... the man playing the accordian in "Sven Hoek" ?
This is the first live action character on the show.
From the many pictures I have seen in the different pictures,
it looks like Bob Camp. It appears to be a "throw together" opening;
according to _Cinfantastique_, it was put together at the last second.
... Husband and Wife from "The Boy Who Cried Rat!" and several others?
John Kricfalusi is said to be a big fan of J. R. "Bob" Dobbs and
Connie of the SubGenius culture. They are an incarnation of a married
couple of the 1950s and the like. Otherwise known as "Mr. and Mrs.
Pipe" or the '50s suburbanites.
(If you want any other quotes or segments explained or included with
explanations, please e-mail me.)
8. Is it "No sir, I _DON'T_ like it", or "No sir, I _DIDN'T_
like it"?
Both. "Don't" is heard in "Stimpy's Big Day/The Big Shot," and "didn't" is
heard in "Fire Dogs," and "Marooned." In Season II we have a new variation
in "Out West:" "WELL sir, I don't like it." Another variation is in "Rubber
Nipple Salesmen:" "WEll sir, I don't think I have a use for rubber nipples!"
By the way, Billy West is now doing Mr. Horse. Games Production plans to
use Mr. Horse as a remembrance to John K., not as a weapon against him.
Mr. Horse has appeared as a cameo on several cartoons but has starred in two
bumpers. Yes sir, those appearances were Emmy material! :)
FYI: He is on the picture in Anthony's bedroom in "Visit To Anthony" and on
Ren's wall (behind Stimpy and the flensing machine) in "Nurse Stimpy."
9. Does anyone have a list of episodes?
It is posted at the same time as this FAQ list. A more complete breakdown of
showings and background is also posted at the same time called "The Ren And
Stimpy Encyclopedia." See #16 for more information about archived
information.
10. What is the title of the one that spoofs "Wild Kingdom"?
This is a point of controversy. The titles read "A Cartoon / Written by Jim
Smith & John K. / Storyboards by Jim Smith / Directed by John K. / Untamed
World".
Some believe it is titled simply "Untamed World" under the theory that the
first thing you see doesn't have to be the title. It would have been awkward
to put the credits after "Untamed World" because of how the action goes. It
would have been similarly awkward to start off with "Written by". "A
Cartoon" was thus simply used to intro the credits.
Some believe that since "A Cartoon" is capitalized and appears by itself
that it must be a title, and call it "A Cartoon" or "A Cartoon: Untamed
World".
Official word from Spumco has reached the author (from
jeffy@athena.mit.edu) that Spumco folk internally referred to it as
"Nature Show".
In one of the new cartoons, a sequel named "Untamed World 2: Lair Of The
Lummox" may prove the name to be "Untamed World." Keep your VCRs ready,
folks, because they are getting close to airing this one soon.
The R&S Comics use the title "Untamed World" for their aquatic adventure
(with Mr. Sea Horse:).
11. Does Nickelodeon censor R&S?
The opening titles contain scenes from "Big House Blues" and point to the
possibility that Nickelodeon has cut scenes from the show. In particular,
Nick's rendering of BHB does NOT show the scene where Ren is 'drinking from
the porcelain bus.' Additionally, although Nick originally showed the
entire "Magic Nose Goblins" ending, they have since then started doing a
quick fade as the scene panned over the 'field of green.' There are other
places in the series where editing may have taken place. In particular, in
"Untamed World", there is a blackout, then a wipe to the next scene.
Nowhere else does this take place.
From jeffy@athena.mit.edu:
There were a few incidences in "Big House Blues." In one scene, the
dogcatcher asks R&S if they like to have fun; R&S agree. "Well go ahead,
have fun!" [then, in the missing footage, the dogcatcher turns his back, and
says in a feminine voice, "See if I care."] [If you freeze frame it, you can
see the dogcatcher turn around and put his hands on his hips in a rather
feminine stance. Just a brief glance.] Also, during the sleep sequence, Ren
ends up kissing Stimpy, then wakes up, screams, says something about having
to "clean himself," and goes to toilet, drinking out of it (not vomiting
into it). Or maybe it's eating, who can say.
From ja1r+@andrew.cmu.edu:
Like that other Jeff said, Ren dreams he's having a romantic encounter and
ends up kissing Stimpy, at which point he instantly wakes up wide-eyed and
dashes over to the PHENOMENALLY rusty and filthy prison toilet, takes a
loooong drink to wash his mouth out (!), glares back and Stimpy and shouts,
"HAVE YOU *NO* SENSE OF PERSONAL HYGIENE???"
Editor's Note: I have finally seen unedited BHB at a local animation
festival. Most people have forgotten about Stimpy's "sleeper" eyes, and at
the end of the credits, there is a skull and crossbones. I have also read
that John K. said that Ren was dreaming of a female chihuahua.
Furthermore, several cartoons have been nixed by Nick including "Man's Best
Friend (starring George Liquor)" and "Dog Show" because they are too
"adult." The list seems to continue to grow. "Powdered Toast Man," besides
it political punch at the end, has caused Catholicism to condemn it because
of its portrayal of the Pope. "Out West" uses the word "Lord" and "hangin'"
in the same sentence, which makes Nick weary.
On "Sven Hoek," I have seen a test print. Nick edited the nose goblins down
and took away the Sven's line "I finally get a good look at them!" They took
out the sequence where Sven and Stimpy play circus in the closet (and Stimpy
pretends to be a sword swallower who has a bad accident). They also edited
out where Ren looks into the camera and says "And I'm going to gouge your
eyes out! Yea, that's what I'm gonna do!"
On a side note, Nick edited the new WWDTT. It aired "eat olive loaf" and
when it should be "eat olive loaf till you puke!" And on MTV's airing of
"Sven Hoek" certain pieces of music were changed for unknown reasons.
Some other cuts are mentioned below in the questions, but their is one
final stop in our journey of edits and lost footage. In "Haunted House,"
George Liquor was supposed to be the bloody head fairy, not a knock-off
of "Doug." (_Cinfantastique_ magazine) On "PTM", the "Pope" was changed
to "The Funny Little Man With A Pointy Hat," and PTM's closing joke with
the Constitution and Bill of Rights was edited out all together. "Fake
Dad" was edited down from a half-hour to a regular 11 minute cartoon
according to _Cinfantastique_. "Visit To Anthony" was changed because
Billy West played Ren for one scene only, and its quality is not very good.
Here are some circumstances I have a questions about:
1. What is on Kowalski's butt in "Fake Dad" ?
2. Is it true that Sven and Stimpy had a dinner
ala Lady and the Tramp in "Sven Hoek" ?
3. What happened to Stimpy teaching Ren how to rub
two squirrels together in "The Great Outdoors" ?
4. Why did Bob Camp change the soundtrack in "Sven Hoek" ?
5. Will Nick release R&S uncut on VHS? LaserDisc?
6. Why and what did they cut out of in "Rubber Nipple Salesmen"
with George Liquor?
7. Why did "The Cat Who Laid The Golden Hairball" end so stupidly?
8. What were the original lyrics to the song in "Sven Hoek" ?
9. What will they edit in "Man's Best Friend" ?
10. Is "Hollywood Hoek" a real episode or a dream?
11. Why does "Untamed World" have a unfocused camara during the chase?
12. What (and why) is missing from "Visit To Anthony" that was so bad
that part of it was reanimated with Billy West doing Ren?
(The scene is the one where Ren bulges his eyes out--the cut to
the scene looks funny)
13. When will the next new third season show air?!
14. Why is there a cut in animation during the last part of Father's
meeting with R&S in "Visit To Anthony" ?
15. What was cut out of "Fake Dad"?
16. What is in "Untamed World 2" that frightens Nick?
17. Why did Nick cut out the "policeman" scen in "Son of Stimpy"?
(1.) Billy West told me this: whatever you believe it is.
(5.) VHS videos are out--check out the product section of the document.
Laser Discs are currently unavailable.
(6.) After reading _Cinfantastique_ magazine, I finally found out what
happened in "Rubber Nipple Salesmen" with R&S. Ren knocks on the door, and
George pops out with the oar (a reference to Man's Best Friend), beats them
up, takes them inside, and scales them. Then George cleans them and throws
their parts into the sink, and they say "I think this is going to be a hard
sell."
(8.) The complete words are on the R&S CD. Check out the product section of
this FAQ.
(9.) Another edit mentioned in _Cinfantastique_ magazine was "Man's Best
Friend". Nick will air it only after the violent parts are reanimated
(including the oar hitting scene, the greatest scene in R&S history).
12. What about the music?
Apart from a few selections, there is not a single piece of original music
in the whole show. Instead, R&S quotes extensively from the classical
repertoire, as well as 50's style TV themes and takes. In the second season,
Raymond Scott's works including "Powerhouse" and "Toy Trumpet" have made it
onto the show. (Carl Stalling, the famous Warner Brothers musical composer
and director, used his pieces quite frequently.) Space prohibits a complete
listing of music here.
For some reason, "Sven Hoek" has two versions of background music for
reasons unknown. One version has aired consistently on Nick, and the other
on MTV. MTV's version has the Raymond Scott and "Death March of a
Marionette" pieces missing.
John K. is the voice of Stinky Wizzleteats, according to _Cinfantastique_
magazine, of the "Happy Happy Joy Joy" song.
From Jeffy@athena.mit.edu:
John K apparently wrote "The Muddy Mudskipper Show" theme, and the [words to
the (?)] "Happy Happy Joy Joy" song.
From jondr@sco.com:
Chris Reccardi wrote the [music to the (?)] HHJJ song. He has done work for
Tiny Toon Adventures, among other things.
Editor's Note: The "Happy Happy Joy Joy" song has made it big. It has hit
several charts on different programs (like Dr. Demento, see
rec.music.dementia) and radio stations. It also appears in "Rubber Nipple
Salesmen" and "Sven Hoek" as a single instrument solo. It has recently
appeared in "Haunted House" when Stimpy sings it in the shower.
From otg@csi.compuserve.com:
The closing theme is not an original composition. It's a version of the
Howlin' Wolf (Chester Burnett) classic blues "Killing Floor". No doubt. In
fact, it's VERY similar to the arrangement on the Howlin' Wolf Chess Box.
Editor's Note: Official word is that Howlin' Wolf's song is NOT the closing
theme, but it may sound like it.
Plans for "Der Screamin' Lederhosen" and their R&S record have been
scrapped. The musical group plays the opening and closing music of R&S,
which was created in a jam session. Members of the group include Chris
Reccardi (bass), Scott Huml (drums), and Jim Smith (guitar). Only Jim Smith
works at Spumco now, with the other two at Stabco; Der Screamin'
Lederhosen's has broken up (according to John K. himself in a letter I
received).
Two new R&S CDs are coming out--check out the product section of this FAQ.
13. Where can I get R&S... ?
... animation cels?
Some are going to be auctioned off in December 1992.
Rumor has it that the cell from Big House Blues went for the most
at a price (I believe) $7500. (Details are sketchy about this auction.)
If you want one and don't have a lot of money, enter the contest that
_Ren_And_Stimpy_Exposed!_ magazine is running for us loyal fans; the
cel is from "The Boy Who Cried Rat!" where R&S are in front of the
house looking for a plan. Unfortunately, it's over, and I didn't
win :(.
From David Loshin (loshin@think.com):
As I have mentioned in a previous post, I have seen production animation
cels offered for sale by a place called
American Royal Are Corp.
473 Old Country Road
Westbury, NY 11590
The price was $495.00, and they have cels from shows from the first
season (at least; perhaps more). The phone number is 1-800-888-9449.
... board games?
I just got this for Christmas (so I don't know the price). You can get
it at Toys R Us (that's what bag it came in and was confirmed).
R&S: THE LOG CEREAL GAME
Each player gets a comic strip (four strips printed on both sides, eight
episodes) and picks pieces from the big box of cereal. If its your own
piece you need to complete the puzzle, say a R&S phrase and put it down
onto your strip. If you don't say the phrase, you lose the piece. If
you pick someone else's piece, they have to say a phrase before getting
it. If a LOG piece is picked, follow the directions. There is a History
Eraser button strip, and if completed, the game never took place!
Overall, a good concept. My only gripes are as follows. "Space Madness"
and "Stimpy's Invention" are printed on the same mat. All the pieces
are cardboard! I wish there were some plastic pieces. There is no
hangin' scene in the "Out West" strip! =O( =O(
Contents of game: Log cereal pieces, Log action pieces, comic strip
pieces, R&S sticker, History Eraser Button strip, and 4 comic strips.
Rating: Buy it when it comes to an Odd/Big Lots near you!
... books?
_Pat_The_Stimpy_ (A Nitty Gritty Touchy Smelly Book)
(I've seen pictures of this book)
Basically, it is "sense"-full (as apposed to Stimpy's senseless:)
book. An undying tribute to Ren And Stimpy and the 1980's fad
of puffy and scratch 'n sniff stickers. Touch Stimpy, smell the
mountain of stinky socks, and more to sense.
From Richard Goldstein (richardg@cheesewiz.EBay.Sun.COM):
Nick is marketing the heck out of R&S, but this was truly hysterical.
It is illustrated by Chris Reccardi. The book ain't cheap ($9.95), but
I got it as a gift. It was found in a plain old bookstore.
ISBN # 0-448-40199-1.
... bookmarks?
A flat plastic Stimpy or Ren can save your place in your book. Found it
at Cartoon Corner. Each bookmark has tire treads over it because the
box cover for it has a truck chasing after R&S.
... calendars?
"Advance Comics Catalog" reports that a 18 month calendar for
1993 and 2nd half 1992 will be available in August from Andrews
& McMeel. It'll cost $8.95 and will be in full color (from
michaelb@sol.cse.fau.edu)
Editor's Note: I have one which is a 12 month from the same company.
There is a 1994 calendar from the same people. BUYER BEWARE! My first
calendar had 9 months, and its replacement had 14-15 months (duplicate
months). Apparently, their machine is broken. =O( The calendar features
season 2 shows like "Sven Hoek" and "Son of Stimpy."
... card games?
From John Nolin (john@porta.b24a.ingr.com):
Just saw it at WE B Toys last night.
The card game resembles Go fish in that you try to collect the most
pairs of like cards. Some of the cards include:
Yak Powdered Toastman
Bloated Sack of Protoplasm Mr. Horse
The back of the box said that you could "pick" any pair of cards from
your opponent if you had the "Magic Nose Goblin" card.
Looks sorta neat, but had a $7 price tag for a single deck of cards.
... cereal box offers?
Kellogg's offers (USA only for now):
Frosted Mini-Wheats: 2 UPC Codes (Proofs Of Purchase) for a SNICK
water-filled keychain.
Corn Pops: 2 UPC Codes (Proofs Of Purchase) and $6.95
for a pair of R&S Shorts.
Rice Krispies Treats: 2 UPC Codes (Proofs Of Purchase) for 2 R&S
Posters.
... coffee cups?
A company called "Custom Screenprinting" makes them (from
bub@vuse.vanderbilt.edu).
... colorforms?
From Franklin C Malemud (fmalemud@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu):
Hey I just returned from the store Cartoon Corner in the Columbus City
Center, and now have in my possession....Ren & Stimpy Colorforms.
The scenerio board is the Space Madness cockpit, and you have a
veritable plethora of objects to manipulate including a toothbrush, a
glazed ham, Ren in the water shap that floats, Stimpy, Stimpy sans head,
Ren, Ren sans head, etc...it is quite enjoyable and was only 6 bucks, so
recommend it to all y'all. I think the Cartoon Corner is a nat'l chain,
so you may want to look it up in u'r yellow pages and give em a call.
... comic books?
See Also #16 and #17 for more information)
Marvel Comics have released the first issue in late October 1992.
Future updates about the comics will be going into its own document.
E-mail Fred Ochs at ochs@cs.wmich.edu for your copy of it when it was
ready to be published! (Coming soon to an ftp site near you:)
... dolls and action figures?
Nick has a deal with Mattel to make Ren and Stimpy dolls. According
to _Previews_ magazine, there will be four dolls. One set of two
(one Ren and one Stimpy) will each say six phrases from the show.
(Stimpy's string to talk will be a hairball on his mouth.) The other
set will make flatulating sounds. The "Farting" dolls cost about $15
and the "Talking" dolls cost $35 or so. Mattel is also producing
action figures: Cmdr. Hoek and Cadet Stimpy, Army R&S, and plain ol'
R&S. Deluxe R&S figures are a "bathtub" Ren and a "catbox" Stimpy.
Dakin also has a deal with Nick and has produced two plush toys. They
are available at stores like "Cartoon Corner" and "Spencer Gifts."
Prices run from $14.99 to $35 apiece. For Christmas 1993, Dakin redid
the R&S Dolls: Stimpy is now dressed in Santa clothes, and Ren is now
dressed in Reindeer antlers and bells. (They are about the same price as
the original dolls.)
At Cartoon Corner, mini-dolls of our duo have turned up. Ren is wearing
a "Powdered Toast Man" T-Shirt, and Stimpy has on a "Gritty Kitty"
T-shirt on.
... GIFs?
Check Adam Frampton's R&S FTP list. He posts it bi-weekly on
alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy. (See #17) BTW, the official ftp site for the
R&S documents is aug3.augsburg.edu. (See FTP information)
... key chains?
Cubed Ren and Stimpy bodies which you can mix and match.
... moving stickers?
Cracker Jacks is holding a advertising gimmick with Nick putting
these beauties in their boxes. Make Stimpy hwarf onto Ren by changing
your viewpoint. Cracker Jacks are at a grocery store near you.
... pillows?
From Kevin Bell (finjkb@finaid.indstate.edu):
I was down at the local Spencer's yesterday and saw something new in the
R&S line: Pillows! It's a huge pillow retailing for $19.95 in the 3-D
shape of your favorite cartoon character's face! I personally prefer the
Stimpy over Ren. Ren just doesn't translate as well.
Editor's Note: "He's talking to pillows, kids!" -- Stimpy Pillow, SBD
... postcards?
They have turned up in novelty stores like Spencer Gifts.
Thirty-two postcards for $5.99. (At last look locally, they dropped
in price to a little over $3.)
... posters and shirts?
They've now spread to most any mall T-shirt store.
... sounds?
See Also #17 about the FTP site guide and above question about "GIFS?".
From rogue@cellar.org:
ab20 was closed back in May (1992). The entire archives have
been shuttled to wuarchive.wustl.edu and nic.funet.fi. The Ren
& Stimpy sounds are part of the Amiga archives. (wuarchive has done
some shuffling of the ab20 files, and no longer has a mirror of the
old site. The sounds may have been moved to another directory.)
From bkariger@aunix.fullerton.edu:
We can rightly claim to be the first to have contributed digital
samplings of Ren & Stimpy audio to INet and several other networks.
(Well, OK, we are 98% sure of it; and we would like to know of any
other uploads, both earlier and later.) They originally appeared in
the Info-Mac archives. (The Info-Mac archives are available (by using
FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on
sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files and indices are in
/info-mac/help.) They are in the /info-mac/sound directory:
... video games? (In the order of being released)
Nintendo Gameboy: "Space Madness"
Cadet Stimpy is trying to save Cmdr. Hoek! Stimpy can shoot hairballs
and collect Powdered Toast.
Super Nintendo: "You Veediots!"
Help R&S get through 4 episodes including TBWCR and ITA.
Sega Genesis: "Stimpy's Invention"
Play Ren or Stimpy! Stimpy's Mutato Machine has transformed
their neighborhood into a dangerous place. Can R&S stop it?
One or two players; one player games have the other character running
behind them (like Sonic 2) and can use him to solve puzzles.
... videos and CDs?
Previous announcements that "Big House Blues" was available on
"Tournee of Animation" tapes were in error.
I finally got the info, according to roscoe@csd4.csd.uwm.edu:
(Note: I had to compress the original post for brevity.)
VIDEOS ($14.98 each)
Classics Vol. I - Stimpy's Invention, Untamed World,
Space Madness, Breakfast Tips, Log,
and Goodbye.
Stupidest Stories Vol. I - Stimpy's Big Day/Big Shot,
Robin Hoek, and 2 Dr. Stupid bits.
Stinkiest Stories Vol. I - Nurse Stimpy, Ren's Toothache,
Cat Who Laid The Golden Hairball,
and 2 PTM segments. (Ed: Corrected Info)
Have Yourself A Stinky Little Christmas - Son Of Stimpy makes it
to video with two new
Christmas videos!
CDs ($13.98 each)
Crock O' Christmas CD - 6 Christmas songs, 4 original compositions,
and a story featuring Ren as "Ebeneezer
Scrooge" and Stimpy as "Nat King Cole."
(Sure to be unforgettable:)
You Eediot! - Ren and Stimpy are music biz wannabes: Stimpy wants
to spread happiness and joy, while Ren wants to make
a million dollars. 6 favorite Ren And Stimpy songs,
4 new compositions, and a story.
Some other things mentioned in the post that are coming soon:
R&S trading cards (not Nicktoon trading cards) - (Pyramid brand??)
R&S will be in Comics Interview #122 (Interview with Bill Wray)
From Chris Bray (cbray@uafhp.uark.edu):
> Kurt Philip White (u9360212@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au) writes:
> Did anyone hear the radio interview that Ren and Stimpy did in
> Australia on the 31st October? it was aired on JJJ on Sunday Afternoon
> Fever, and consisted of Maynard asking what sounded like pre-recorded
> R&S a few questions, and in between played a couple of songs off "You
> Idiot" (sp?).
This is from a promo CD called "Little Eediot". I found a copy in a
local used CD store...It's actually 2 CD's...The first being the 12
minute interview with spaces for the DJ's voice...(34 tracks) and the
2nd CD being 3 songs from You Eediot...
... water squirters?
At Cartoon Corner, they had R&S's which you could fill up with water.
When you squeeze their body, water comes out of their mouths. (Stimpy
looks like he's going to hwarf. One can put green Nick Gak in Stimpy
to make him look like he's hwarfing:)
... further information?
_Ren_and_Stimpy_Exposed!_ is entire magazine devoted to our favorite
heroes (Fall/Winter 1992). It had a mailbag where the newsgroup,
alt.fan.ren-and-stimpy, did get a mention!
There is a new spread about R&S on a magazine called _Cinfantastique_.
It's supposed to rival _Film_Threat's_ spread in the amount of
information. Look for it at Walden Books ($5.50). It carries through the
story _R&S_Exposed_ and _Film_Threat_ began and includes edits of our
favorite cartoon.
Go to the library and check out Reader's Guide To Periodicals.
There are a whole slew of R&S articles from the year of 1991, 1992,
and 1993. (Newspapers had many articles too.)
_Film_Threat_ magazine has a 18 page article in its December 1992
issue (number 7). A reprint (basically it is) of the R&S story is
in a magazine called _Wild_Cartoon_Kingdom_. It has even more pictures,
info., George Liquor, and the connection between John K. and Batman: The
Animated Series. _Wild_Cartoon_Kingdom_ came out with a second edition
featuring Batman TAS Movie and Jimmy the "Hapless" Boy. WCKs are must
buys!
From Jason Price (Jason.Price@launchpad.unc.edu):
I just got back on this news group and I dunno if anyonez seen this...
I was walking thru the mall and happened to walk into Walden books to
look for a AMiga mag and there it was.....In the thousands of mags IT
stood out like a sore thumb...... " Wild Cartoon Kingdom" by RIP
Magazine.. I got the last copy of it in the store and the guy told me
that it was sent to them out of thin air. If you ever wanted to know
anything about Ren & Stimpy this mag has it.. What Nick thinks about
R&S, pics of John K, the whole cartoon cast, A full episode guide, SOME
of the BEST !! pics from your fave episodes. I mean the mag cost 3.95
but it was worth it. It also has a BIG section on BATMAN and a nother
full episode guide and real cool pics. DEFINITELY a collectors ITEM.. I
have to go see if they have any more..... The sad thing is that we had a
thunderstorm and my windows were up...YES... my mag got wet..;-( ..
gotta like those water marks.NOT!! I just thought I'd throw it in...
LOOK FOR IT, ASK FOR IT.
From Joel Schenkle (donnell@mantaray.micro.umn.edu):
Actually, it is put out by the fine folks at "Film Threat". I think they
are doing this to avoid reissuing the R&S issue of FT, their most
popular issue, and already a collectors item.
... watches?
From Synthia Petroka (sap@lucid.com):
I just picked up two different Ren & Stimpy watches at the local Toys R
Us in San Jose. They were originally marked at $6.99 but were on sale
at $3.98. They are digital watches, and one has a flip cover with a
moving animation sequence of our heros bumping butts from the Happy
Happy Joy Joy song.
For you locals, I was at the store on Capitol at McKee and I found them
amongst the other cartoon digital watches near the electronics section.
They also had some Log Cereal Games.
... "Frontier Log," "Powdered Toast," "Gritty Kitty Litter," etc?
"You sick little monkey!"
"Don't you know cartoons will ruin your MIND?!"
-- Ren, "Stimpy's Big Day"
... other products for the drooling fanboy in each of us?
Stay tuned.
14. Is there a fan club?
Well, this document was created for the fan club on alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy. :)
From jeffy@athena.mit.edu:
Hahaha! It never occured to me, until I was looking at a just-finished copy
of X Magazine #10 ("Big Ren & Stimpy Blow-Out" issue, plug plug) to post the
address of the Almost-Official Ren and Stimpy Fan Club. So:
Ren & Stimpy Fan Club
2930 Jacob St.
Hamtramck, MI 48212
15. What about the future of R&S? (R&S Headline News)
Nutshell:
We have completed the shows for Season 2.
Nick is probably saving "Untamed World 2" and "Man's Best Friend"
for Season 3 (they know that it's the last of the John K. material).
Gory Details:
Dateline
Premiere Date to April 1993:
The future of R&S is very murky at the moment. Rumors are flying of John K's
dismissal for submitting inappropriate material and being behind schedule.
The rights to the characters are owned by Nick, so it's conceivable that R&S
could go on under new management. All of this is way up in the air as this
goes to print.
John K. has been removed as head of R&S, and Spumco has lost the rights to
produce R&S. Bob Camp, one of John's partners at Spumco, will head a new
studio. The name of the company, who is still working on R&S, and other
facts are all still up in the air as the public is concerned.
Nick announced in late fall 1992 that new Ren And Stimpys will be playing
starting on November 7, 1992 and play new ones bi-weekly. Nick is also
looking for a replacement for Ren (and probably Mr. Horse) because John K.
has decided to quit doing the voice. (Billy West is doing the interim Ren,
as mentioned above. Although its more like Ren and Peter Lorre combined,
it's just not John K. But I am biased on this point, though.)
According to a recent poster, John K. now believes that R&S are "dead." He
may correct in the sense that some of their best material is now banned
including the disputed "Out West" cartoon. Nick has six shows left to air
but will hold out as long as possible to keep them fresh; it looks like
re-run mania until February, a ratings month.
It looks like Ren And Stimpy cult fans are in for a bumpy ride. Nick has
ordered 65 (sixty-five) episodes for Season 3, which means the creativity
will go down for sure (if they don't it will be a surprise). The remaining
Season 2 shows have episodes when Ren is played by Billy West. "Monkey See,
Monkey Don't" and "Fake Dad" were the only two new R&S from February
sweeps--not to mention an edited Powdered Toast Man reappeared with the
title of the "pope" changed to "the funny little man with the pointy hat."
On the other end of the spectrum, John K. is now working on two shows for
the fall: "He Hog" (a superatomic pig) and a variety show hosted by George
Liquor ("Hello! I'm George Liquor, American!").
"Out West," BTW, did make a come back unedited in February sweeps. I
believe Nick wanted to save their newest song until the "HHJJ" song died
down in popularity.
"The Great Outdoors" and "The Cat Who Laid The Golden Hairball" have
premiered. Nick is premiering the rest of the cartoons by single airings.
MTV is showing R&S at erratic times; keep an eye on your local listings.
April 24, 1993 Update: "Stimpy's Fan Club" airs, and Nick-Mania is showing
eight shows of our favorite duo. Oh Joy Of Joy!
May 8, 1993: Other new shows have aired and unaired episodes have been in
limbo. They have been covered in the guide and encyclopedia. John K. is
planning to bring back the show in a similar format an attitudes with George
Liquor (Ren-type personality) and Jimmy The Hapless Boy (Stimpy-type dufus)
in a television show, according to _Cinfantastique_ magazine. Nick Mania has
SNICK Mania so that R&S gets played two more times than usual--Oh Joy!
"Visit To Anthony" has been aired.
May 23, 1993: "Kilted Yaksmen" premieres! Big hoopla about it along with
gigantic flying skirted crocostimpies. :-)
Summer 1993: Due to my co-op assignment, I haven't been able to keep a month
to month journal on R&S, but many things have happened. _Film_Threat_ has
re-released their article on R&S in a magazine called _RIP_ (or something
similar), but details are currently sketchy. R&S Comics have been selling
like hotcakes; I know of five places that sell it out consistently in my
area alone! Currently, the comic book is up to #10 (I'm looking for #5);
first editions are hard to find, so Marvel Comics has released the first
four issues of R&S is a package re-release; other re-releases may be
evident! (IMHO, I really liked the artwork in the first story of #9 because
the artist captured the look, feel, and backgrounds of the show.) See the
section on the comic book for more details about the R&S Comic book.
I've been reading a lot of different newsgroups about video games and
animation this summer, and I have discovered something. The R&S video game
on GameBoy is a cool game (according to our beloved Judex:), and there are
continual posts about R&S on rec.arts.animation. So make sure you check out
both! (Look for R&S references in other topics too)
Now onto the show, Ren And Stimpy. A desert of reruns has plagued the fans
of the show, but we've almost made it to the next season! Season 3 should
start August 28, but what Games Animations, the new company, will produce on
its own has yet to be seen. Rumors of a 65 shows for season 3 are still
flying and may be true; "Rocko" (as advertised on Slime Time sweepstakes)
will premiere as a new Nicktoon. Will Rocko take over R&S's spot on Sunday?
How long can trusted Cadet Stimpy and fans hold out? How long before John
K. wishes he pushed the history eraser button on creating R&S??? :)
(BTW, see the R&S Encyclopedia for more month by month commentary)
October 1993: New shows are coming November 20, 1993!!!
December 1993: Three shows have premiered and have flopped (except NO Pants
Today). :( "Untamed World 2" has been edited to death according to WCK 2's
"Nick Boners" section; it may never show up uncut.
16. What about the comic book?
(Check out the R&S Comics guide coming soon!)
The comic book is produced by Marvel Comics. It is currently up to issue
ten. My friend Jamal can explain the going's on with it better than I can.
(Thanks Jamal for the info!)
From Jamal Hannah (jamal@silver.lcs.mit.edu):
I also recently talked to an animation-student friend of mine on the phone
who knows the main artist of the Ren & Stimpy comic pretty well. (Mike
Kazaleh is the main artist.. he's also known for his work on his own comic:
"Captain Jack", from Fantagraphics Books, as well as some stories in the
comic "Critters", also from Fantagraphics Books. More recently Mike has
done work on "The Mighty Mutimals." ... All of these comics would be in the
back-issue's section of a comic store. They are worth looking up, because
Mike Kazaleh has an art style and a zany type of humor of his own that is
quite enjoyable. Mike has also done animation work for Ralph Bakshi-he
designed "The Cow" in "The Adventures of Mighty Mouse" (as well as
animated sequences with him)... in fact, if you really want more Ren &
Stimpy info from Mike himself, you can try writing to him through Marvel
comics or Fantagraphics Books (Editor's Note: what are their address?)
Supposedly, John K. didn't like Mike Kazaleh's work in the Ren & Stimpy
comic, but that's most likely because Mike puts alot more of "himself" into
the work than John K.. (I'm sure John is rather cynical about most of what
is going on with his characters at this point.. to think that if he had just
kept the rights to the characters and gotten a loan, and released the
cartoons on local access cable stations, or somethign simmilar, he may have
made less money at first, but would have kept complete creative control of
his creations and storylines!)
17. Where can I find archived information on R&S?
The official spot for R&S information stored at aug3.augsburg.edu via ftp
(This is anonymous ftp.). To get the FAQ and other documents through
e-mail: send an electronic mail message to ren-n-stimpy@aug3.augsburg.edu
and it will autoreply. With each new updated FAQ, I will be sending a
message telling the people who asked for it to resend to the listserver if
they want the updated version.
I have written a supplemental guide to Nick Sayer's
Not-So-Official-Episode-Guide called "The Ren and Stimpy Encyclopedia." It
contains miscellaneous info. which the other guide doesn't cover, including
the components of shows, SNICK airings, and titles of scripts that are in
production. It is under the filename called "ren-n-stimpy.encyclopedia".
(It was called "The Ren And Stimpy Extra" previously.)
FTP Sites For Ren And Stimpy are what you are searching? Then try Adam
Frampton at frampton@access.digex.com for a list of them! (Look for his
periodic postings on alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy.)
18. Has John K. seen this FAQ or the other R&S documents?
RUMOR: According to "Lobo" at Auggie BBS (aug3.augsburg.edu), he has shown
it to John K., and he flipped out. He said we did a "good job." More details
as they come. (BTW, Lobo is a good friend of mine)
December 1993: I am sending a copy of the January documents to John K, which
he requested. Hopefully, we'll get some comment on our newsgroup. =O)
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Here's an article of interest from Jenny, our connection to John K.:
In article <C8BCqL.2Fv@news.cis.umn.edu> donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu
(BogusMan) tries to hide his true, evil intentions with:
------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
In article <1993Jun06.174803.8107@quake.sylmar.ca.us>
Jenny.Lerew%bbs@quake.sylm
>
>
>After a year or so of browsing the posts here, I am still regularly
>amazed at the amount of information "Judex" seems to be able
>to tap into...what's the deal, guy? Are you a bartender at Small's?
>Do you have a bug on Spumco's phone? Quite a mystery...even John K.
>--while perusing some posts I printed out for him--expressed surprise
>ala "How does this guy know all this stuff?".
>
>BTW, I enjoy reading his opinions/updates, which are(as well as I can
>remember) consistently accurate. Funny too. Just curious!
>
>
I read. And remember what I read. Just the way I am.
Tell John Hello, and give him my best wishes. Can't wait for his next
project, whatever it may be!
Pax
--Judex--
PS: I started watching the show from day one, that helps a lot too.
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Be afraid, be very afraid. All is not what it seems. Since the end
of the cold war, and the break-up of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw
Pact, many espionage units of those groups have been left out in the
cold, so to speak. A lot of them, with no more military masters to
report to, have turned capitilist with a vengence and are now into
industrial and commercial espionage.
One such spy cell is working in the United States, camouflaged as
edu types at various institutes of higher learning. This cell is working
for the fledgling Russian Animation Technocrat (RAT) and is in the
process of stealing all information on the US cartoon industry technology.
Once this information and technology is in the hands of RAT, RAT will
be able to produce cartoons at one tenth of the US cost and will corner
the world toon market, world domination still being a Russian goal.
I am only sure of two of the three members of this spy cell, and will
most likely loose my life for revealing this information, but here goes:
Judex and Norman are spies! And I have my doubts about Adam too!
The Space "See what happens when you don't take your medication" Ranger
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Just wanted to say that Jenny is our spy! Judex and I just read a lot! :)
(Editor's Note: I love getting the final word:)
19. What are John Kricfalusi's future projects?
The following are from different sources, with several of them corroborating
each other. I acknowledge the newsgroup, the magazines, and Billy West.
The NBC Peacock
An apparent move to finance future projects, John K. has designed a
commercial for NBC. It has a peacock pulling off a plunger and displaying
its plummage.
From Jon C Austin (ja2592@gamera.acs.appstate.edu):
>David Price (dprice@convex.com) writes:
>I just spotted something the other night. Several times I have seen
>that NBC runs a 10-15 second cartoon at the top of the hour which
>parodies their old peacock logo. The cartoon peacock at first has no
>tail. Then he takes a deep breath and strains really hard. The tail
>pops out in rainbow colors - the end. They also play the old peacock
>logo music from the 1960's.
>Why am I mentioning this? Because the other night I noticed that for
>a few seconds at the beginning, the familiar "John K." signature
>appears in the corner of the screen. The peacock has that "John K."
>look.
>SO, does this mean that John K. has some working relationship with NBC
>now? Hmmmm. Maybe there is a new series in the works.
NBC this season contracted with a number of graphic artists to make
variation on the NBC peacock. You see different ones at different times
throughout the broadcast schedule : the morphing peacock. the
peacock collage, and yes, the John K. peacock. He was contracted
by NBC to make one: the one that David describes above.
These do not show at the same time every day. But I have noticed
the John K. peacock has run at 8PM EST the last two Thursday nights.
From Mike Cohen (isis@netcom.com):
I remember a great quote from John K in that piece that had me ROTFL. He
said something like "I always dreamt of animating a bird that blows
something wonderful & colorful out of its butt".
"He Hog The Atomic Pig"
From Ron O'Dell (keeper@cats.ucsc.edu):
Excerpts from what appeared in last weekend's "USA Weekend":
Ren & Stimpy's creator John Kricfalusi, ousted by Nickelodeon last
year, makes his cartoon comeback with `He Hog the Atomic Pig'.
The swine's power: supersensitive taste buds. He fights crime with
his sidekick, Half-life, a decaying molecule. Look for the powerful
porker on cable or video next year.
"The Ripping Friends"
Here's a quote from _Wild_Cartoon_Kingdom_ from John K. about the show:
"It's about the world's most manly men, who win their battles through sheer,
raw manliness and willpower. They don't have superpowers, but they have the
suits. They think superheroes are wimps because they have to cheat to win
their battles--how manly are you if you have a superpower? You could beat
the crap out of anyone! That's not very manly. A manly guy will take the
pain along with the victory. It's got to hurt to win--that's
_The_Ripping_Friends_."
No Official Title Yet: "George Liquor's Variety Show"
No real info yet, but it might have George paired up with Jimmy The Hapless
Boy doing R&S-type humor.
"Brik Blastoff Of The Outback"
From Paul Martin Barry (pmbarry@acs.ucalgary.ca):
The December issue of Film Threat has some more info and a couple pictures
of "He-Hog the Atomic Pig", along with a shelved project John K. was
working on "Brik Blastoff of the Outback". Brik Blastoff seems to be
along the same lines as "The Killing Friends", although he revamped it to
include some nudity for a pitch to the Playboy Channel. Playboy
apparently "just didn't get the humor."
He-Hog is being independently financed, with some funds coming from the
Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. (CBC) It is slated to appear in
early 1994 on the CBC, with an appearence in the US soon after possibly
on either USA Network, or the cartoon channel (ugh).
Editor's Note: BTW, it's the Cartoon Network, not the cartoon channel, and
the "Killing Friends" should be the "Ripping Friends."
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