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Newsgroups: comp.sources.testers,comp.answers,news.answers
Path: senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!nic.hookup.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uunet!sparky!root
From: kent@sterling.com (Kent Landfield)
Subject: comp.sources.testers - Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
Message-ID: <cst_756404402@Sterling.COM>
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Summary: Frequently asked question list for comp.sources.testers
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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 16:20:06 GMT
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Frequently Asked Questions for comp.sources.testers
This article contains the answers to Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
concerning comp.sources.testers. To submit questions (preferably with
an answer) send email to: sources-testers-faq@sterling.com
Many FAQs, including this one, are available on the archive site
rtfm.mit.edu in the directory pub/usenet/news.answers. The name
under which a FAQ is archived appears in the Archive-name line at
the top of the article. This FAQ is archived as sources-test-faq.
This article addresses:
o What was comp.sources.testers created for ?
o Why not use alt.sources ?
o How do I get added of deleted from the list of testers ?
o Where do I test my news software at ?
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Subject: What was comp.sources.testers created for ?
CHARTER:
The purpose of this newsgroup is to give authors of software packages a
place to post in hopes of finding people willing to test their packages.
No source should ever be posted to comp.sources.testers.
comp.sources.testers should be used as a first stage before posting to
any of the source newsgroups, including alt.sources, comp.sources.misc,
comp.sources.games, comp.sources.unix, the various machine specific source
groups, and even comp.sources.reviewed.
Most of the subject lines should look like
Subject: Need beta testers for ppmtovcr, another portable bitmap converter
or perhaps final announcements like
Subject: Done with gamma testing for ppmtovcr, posted to c.s.misc
along with acknowledgments. Cross posts into comp.sources.testers are fine
when there's an appropriate subject group. Topics like
Subject: What metrics do you use for evaluating object-oriented programs?
belong in comp.software-eng, not comp.sources.testers.
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Subject: Why not use alt.sources ? It seems to have been serving
the community well.
There are those that would *disagree*... Initially, alt.sources was
established as a place where the net could post sources that was not
moderated, such as comp.sources.unix. Its usage has evolved into a
group where authors post beta software in hopes that people take the
time to compile/debug them. The author then hopes to hear of problems
from those who took the time to look at their packages. This approach
forces all problems to be aired in public. Communication with the author
before beta testing begins is not how alt.sources works today, flooding
the net with alpha/beta software is.
Blasting sources out everywhere is not for c.s.testers. The idea is to
put people together to work towards improving a package. Authors may
not want to post alpha (read that as knowingly buggy) code to the world.
Many times the author of a package would like to have a small group of
people actively working on a program. Often the author sets up a mailing
list for the group members to use to pass ideas and bug fixes back and
forth. It is much easier to post "oops, I was dumb" messages to an
isolated, much smaller, and more interactive group than to post messages
of this type to the world.
Another problem with alt.sources is that many sites do not take the
newsgroup because they are on the end of slow links which must pay to
receive news. With comp.sources.testers, a site of this type can
receive this low volume newsgroup and still be a part of the potential
beta testing community.
And as for the signal to flame ratio in alt.sources... Never mind. :-)
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Subject: Is there a list of people willing to try things out ?
The following have offered to be Beta Testers on a request by request
basis. Do not expect that they will always have the time or interest
to be a tester. Their inclusion on this list is strictly voluntary
and they should be commended for their contributions.
Nathan Bailey
ins499y@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au
System: 486-33 SVGA Win3.1 MS-DOS
Jose T Banez
jayb@wpi.edu
System: 386sx-16, msdos5, win3.1, vga, math coprocessor.
Kevin Boneham
boneham@suntan.eng.usf.edu
Systems: SunOs 4.1.3 with twm or olwm,
486dx-50mhz with msdos 5.0
386dx-33mhz with msdos 6.0
windows 3.1.
Mike Borzumate
faf@faf.org
Systems: 386 MS-DOS, MS-WINDOWS, ULTRIX 4.1, SunOS 4.1.1
David Boyd
Sterling Software
dwb@sterling.com
Systems: Suns, Dec Risc, Dec Alpha
Jon Charette
egotrip@wpi.wpi.edu
System: 386SX-20, VGA, Win3.1, MS-DOS, some UNIX
Randy Cutshaw
randy@biosym.com
Systems: Mac IIvx, Quadra 660av, Quadra 840av,
Apple MPW with C++ and MacApp, Symantec Think C++.
and IBM 486/66, 16mb ram, CD drive, P9000 video card
tape drive. Visual C++.
Lloyd Goad
lgoad@lnetbbs.win.net
System: 486 DOS WIN3.1
Steffen F. Haeussermann
stcsh@sninj.com
SNI Inc. of North America
Systems: SNI MX300i with SINIX V5.41 (SVR4)
HP-Apollo 425e with Domain OS 10.4
AT-486 with BSDI V1.0
AT-486 with Consensys 1.3 (SVR4)
AT-486 with SCO-ODT V1.0
AT-486 with Windows NT
AT-486 with Windows 3.1 and Visual C
Tom Harvey
tharvey@mcs.dundee.ac.uk
System: Apple Macintosh
Teemu Hakala
Teemu.Hakala@krk.fi
Systems: Sun Sparc, X, 486SX, DOS/Win31
Steve Hoffman
steveh@eskimo.com
System: DOS, WINDOWS
Peter Kraatz
pkraatz@netlink.nix.com
System: 386sx 33mhz with SVGA, 8megs ram, MS-Dos, Windows 3.1,
Soundblaster Pro, U.S. Robotics 14.4 Sportster modem.
Peter Leonard
PELeonard@Vassar.edu
System: Amiga 3000T/30 Workbench 2.1,
Amax II+ Macintosh Emulator with System 7.01.
Terry Monnett
tmonnett@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
System: Macintosh 610, system 7.1 with a cd-rom
Nancy I Nagle
nagle@anthro.utah.edu
System: Macintosh
Nathan Neulinger
nneul@cs.umr.edu
System: Macintoshs
Christopher Pankhurst
csap@socs.uts.edu.au
System: Xwindows and IBM XT or AT
Lorenzo Patocchi
patol@info.isbiel.ch
Systems: Sun Sparc 10 286/386/486, 33/66MHz, Tseng/S3 Svga 1M, CD-Rom
Jason Philbrook
jasonph@wpi.edu
System: DOS, WINDOWS
David Pifke
socrates@crl.com
Systems: 386DX-40 (w/ 387) with Linux, OS/2 2.1, and MSDOS (with
Windows 3.1) partitions. Non-root access to a SunOS system.
Ben Pomeranz
bap5@lehigh.edu
System: 386DX 33MHz, MSDOS, Sound Blaster
Christopher Samuel
Computer Unit, UCW Aberystwyth, Aberystwyth, WALES
RFC: ccs@aber.ac.uk
UUCP: *!mcsun!uknet!aber!ccs
JNT: ccs@uk.ac.aber
Joju Sebastian
Joju.Sebastian@lambada.oit.unc.edu
System: DOS
Robert Smithson.
RCS1000@archer.demon.co.uk
Systems: OS/2 ver 2, Windows 3, MS-DOS
Alex Teng
idpt555@tpts1.seed.net.tw
System: DOS, WINDOWS, NOVELL, UNIX, NT
Jerry D. Vergeront
verge@selway.umt.edu
System: 386sx-25, msdos5, win3.1, vga, sound blaster
Kent Villard
villard@venus.cc.hollandc.pe.ca
System: 100% IBM compatible with DOS/WINDOWS
Dan Weeks
z_weeksdj@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
System: 386SX-25MHz, Math-coprocessor, DOS 5.0, Windows 3.1, Visual C++
David Zawalick
zawalick@soda.berkeley.edu
Systems: DOS, Windows, OS/2, X, UNIX
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Subject: How do I get added or deleted from the list of testers ?
Send email to:
testers@sterling.com
Make sure that you clearly indicate you want to be included or removed
from the list. Please include the types of platforms that you have
available for testing. I will from time to time contact you to assure
that you still wish to be included on the list.
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Subject: Where do I test my news software at ?
Please do *not* post test messages to comp.sources.testers !
If you wish to test your news software, create a local group and try
using that first. When that works, locate a regional group to test
posting articles to the world. Ask your upstream feed for the name
of a regional newsgroup nearest you. If you really feel that you
must post a test message that needs to go to most every news system
worldwide, use misc.test, or news.test. Just remember, messages
posted to the world costs other sites money.
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