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From: faigin@aero.org (Daniel P. Faigin)
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Subject: soc.culture.jewish FAQ: Holocaust, Antisemitism, Missionaries (9/10)
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Summary: The Holocaust and Antisemitism, Jewish Missionaries
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Frequently Asked Questions on Soc.Culture.Jewish
Part 9: The Holocaust, Antisemitism, and Missionaries
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[Last Post: Thu Sep 8 11:07:09 1994]
This posting is an attempt to answer questions that are continually asked on
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Judaic movements. You SHOULD NOT make any assumption as to accuracy and/or
authoritativeness of the answers provided herein. In all cases, it is always
best to consult a competent authority -- your local rabbi is a good place to
start.
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Individual honorifics are omitted.
The FAQ was produced by a committee and is a cooperative work. The
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transliteration scheme. As a result, the same original word might appear with
a variety of spellings. This is complicated by the fact that there are
regional variations in the pronunciation of Hebrew. In some places, the
common spelling variations are mentioned; in others --- not. We hope that
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Subject: Organization
This portion of the FAQ contains answers to the following questions:
Section 15. Churban Europa (The Holocaust)
15.1. Why do Jews seem to treat the Holocaust as their tragedy alone?
15.2. Where can I get information on the Holocaust?
15.3. How do I get tickets to see the United States Holocaust Memorial
Museum?
Section 16. Antisemitism
16.1. Why is antisemitism used to mean anti-Jewish?
16.2. Is there any truth to the myth of the Jewish American Princess?
Section 17. Countering Missionaries
17.1. What about (sic) "Jews for Jesus" or (sis) "Messianic Jews"?
17.2. Is belief in Jesus-as-God compatible with any Jewish movements?
17.3. What do missionary groups believe?
17.4. What sort of deceptive terminology do missionaries use?
17.5. How can these missionaries be countered?
17.6. Who is financing "Jews for Jesus" and similar groups?
All portions of the FAQ are organized as digests, and should be
undigestifyable by software such as Gnus or rn. Please report any
difficulties.
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Subject: Archival and Credits
Anonymous FTP:
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ftp://israel.nysernet.org/israel/lists/scj-faq/FAQ/01-FAQ-intro
ftp://israel.nysernet.org/israel/lists/scj-faq/FAQ/02-Who-We-Are
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ftp://israel.nysernet.org/israel/lists/scj-faq/FAQ/04-Observance
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ftp://israel.nysernet.org/israel/lists/scj-faq/FAQ/06-Jewish-Thought
ftp://israel.nysernet.org/israel/lists/scj-faq/FAQ/07-Jews-As-Nation
ftp://israel.nysernet.org/israel/lists/scj-faq/FAQ/08-Israel
ftp://israel.nysernet.org/israel/lists/scj-faq/FAQ/09-Antisemitism
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Comments and corrections are welcome. Note that the goal is to present
a balanced view of Judaism; where a response is applicable to a particular
movement only, this will be noted. Unless otherwise noted or implied by the
text, all responses reflect the traditional viewpoint.
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Subject: 15.1. Why do Jews seem to treat the Holocaust as their tragedy alone?
QUESTION: Why do Jews seem to talk and act as if the Holocaust was their
tragedy alone?
ANSWER: We don't, and in fact, a hefty percentage of articles on the Holocaust
go out of their way to mention the number of gentiles murdered, as well as
soldiers and civilians killed in the war itself.
But we focus upon it for several reasons: (1) It destroyed a third (1/3) of
world Jewry, almost all of European Jewry, and obliterated the entire European
Jewish culture. (2) It was directed primarily at Jews - Hitler himself wrote
that his real war was against Judaism and the idea of absolute morality, the
antithesis of amoral nationalism. (see his discussions with his friend,
Hermann Rauschning) (3) It happened just 50 years ago, which is recent.
It is important to mention other attempts at mass extermination or national
destruction, such as Armenian, Cambodian, East Timorese, Kurdish, etc.
One should also mention other large scale injustices such as Black African
enslavement in America, but to make clear that even if it is not the same as
the Holocaust, it's still a moral problem.
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Subject: 15.2. Where can I get information on the Holocaust?
Additional information may be found in the Antisemitism Reading List,
available as usenet/news.answers/judaism/reading-lists/antisemitism from
rtfm.mit.edu.
Information is also available on the newsgroup soc.culture.jewish.holocaust,
which is a storagehouse for all kinds of information from various sources on
the Holocaust in Europe that occurred between 1942-1945 (along with the events
leading up to it that happened in the early 30's). In that group you will find
Holocaust materials from both personal testimonies of survivors and their
families and "hard" facts from historians and observers.
Also available on rtfm.mit.edu, although not produced by the
soc.culture.jewish folks, is various information on the Holocaust used to
answer the "revisionists". Look on rtfm.mit.edu in the news.answers/holocaust
directories. You'll find information on Auschwitz (auschwitz/part01,part02),
Operation Reinhard -- A Layman's Guide to Belzec, Sobibor, and Treblinka
(reinhard/part01, part02), and a two-part report that provides common answers
to the various revisionists claims that the Holocaust never occured
(lechter/part01, part02). Additional information may be found in ihr/part01,
part02. If you are using WWW or Mosaic, the relevant pointer is:
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/holocaust/top.html
Alas, Nazi-ism didn't end with the Holocaust, and there has been a resurgance
of neo-Nazi groups in Germany. Between October 1992 and April 1993, the Simon
Wiesenthal Center conducted a covert operation to determine the strength,
financial base, and ultimate leadership of Germany's neo-Nazi movement.
Center officials also wanted to find out the links between Germany's radical
right and similar organizations in the United States, and to determine the
degree of commitment on the part of German police towards the enforcement of
laws passed by the German parliament over the years to thwart the resurgence
of Nazism in the Bundesrepublik. The results of this operation are documented
and available on the net. To obtain the Wiesenthal infiltration report, send
the command GET FASCISM SWC.OPREP to listserv@oneb.almanac.bc.ca. In order to
obtain a complete listing of all of our archives, include the command INDEX,
which returns a list of roughly thirty megs of data.
A Holocaust bibliography is also available. It contains thousands of
listings for those interested in research. To obtain it, simply send a
message to kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca and place the word BIBLIO in the
Subject: field of your message. The 23-part bibliography will be sent to you
immediately.
Lastly, there is plenty of information available on the Jerusalem1 gopher. You
can try it by typing:
gopher jerusalem1.datasrv.co.il
or following the URL:
gopher://jerusalem1.datasrv.co.il
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Subject: 15.3. How do I get tickets to see the United States Holocaust
Memorial Museum?
Opened in April 1993, on the fiftieth anniversary of the Warsaw ghetto
uprising, the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C.,
summons all who enter its portals to rise to an important and extraordinary
challenge: to remember and immortalize the 6 milion Jews and millions of other
Nazi victims of World War II -- Gypsies, Poles, homosexuals, the handicapped,
Jehovah's Witnesses, political and religious dissidents, Soviet prisoners of
war -- who were murdered in the most horrifying event of our time: the
Holocaust.
The main task of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum is to present the
facts of the Holocaust, to tell the American public as clearly and
comprehensively as possible what happened in that darkest chapter of human
history. To this end, the Museum has reconstructed the history of the
Holocaust through multiple media: the meaningful arrangement of objects as
well as the presentation of documentary photographic and cinematographic
materials. This museum holds the world's largest and most diversified
collection of Holocaust-related objects; but in its display it is a
"conceptual museum" rather than a traditional, object-oriented one: it's
primary purpose is to communicate concepts, complex information, and
knowledge, rather than merely to display objects of the Holocaust, unrelated
to the historical context of each individual exhibit.
A visit to the museum, or a tour through the virtual exhibition, will be an
interesting and challenging learning experience but, at the same time, it also
will be a thought-provoking, disturbing, and personally upsetting one. And so
it should be.
The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum is a free, Federal Museum
dedicated to presenting the history of the persecution and murder of six
million Jews and millions of other victims of Nazi tyrrany from 1933-1945. To
accomodate large numbers of visitors expected by the museum, and to ensure a
meaningful experience for every one, the museum is now open on a time-ticket
basis, which means that a ticket is required for admission, and that tickets
are marked with a specific time and day in order to regulate the number of
people passing through the exhibits at any given time.
Tickets may be obtained in one of three ways: you can visit or call
Ticketmaster at 1-800-432-SEAT and purchase tickets for a specified date and
time using a credit card. Currently, there is a $3.50 phone charge and a
$1.00 per ticket handling fee. Tickets to the museum are free, except for the
handling charges which go directly to Ticketmaster. A second method of
obtaining tickets is to go directly to the walk-up window and request them.
Demand is heavy, and only a portion of each day's tickets are set aside for
walk-up business. The last, and most difficult, method of obtaining tickets
is to call your elected representative and request assistance in finding
tickets. The Museum is not part of the Smithsonian system, and therefore some
Congressmen do not bother to request complimentary tickets from the museum.
Some do.
The Museum is open from 10:00-5:30 daily, except for Christmas (go figure!)
and certain Jewish holidays (to be determined). The telephone number is (202)
488-0400. Their internet domain is ushmm.org. They have established an
experimental WWW Server. The URL is the following:
URL: http://www.ushmm.org/home.html
For those of you who do not have access to a WWW client (browser) like Mosaic
or Lynx, the Holocaust Memorial Museum is also included in the main menu of
the Global Jewish Information Network Server. It is accessible by telnet:
telnet www.huji.ac.il
login: JEWISHNET
No password required
The URL for the Global Jewish Information Network is the following:
URL: http://www.huji.ac.il/www_jewishn/www/t01.html
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Subject: 16.1. Why is antisemitism used to mean anti-Jewish?
Aren't Arabs Semites too?
The word "anti-Semitism" was coined in Germany in 1879 by Wilhelm Marr as a
more euphonious way of saying "Judenhass" (Jew-hatred), and has always meant
exactly that. Its antonym, "Semitism" connoted a positive attitude toward the
Jewish people. The word has become too sanitized and too easily
misunderstood, which is exactly what Marr tried to accomplish with the word's
creation.
According to a (now discredited) nineteenth century theory that held that
racial groups and linguistic groups coincide, Semites are natives of a group
of Middle Eastern nations which are closely related in ethnicity, culture and
language. Under this theory, the modern day Semites would be the Jews and
Arabs. In ancient times, the Assyrians, Canaanites, Carthaginians, Aramaeans
and Akkadians (one of the ancestors of the ancient Babylonians) were also
counted among the Semitic nations. It should be noted that many of these
groups contributed much to the development of modern culture, in particular the
Phoenicians (Semitic seafarers including Canaanites, Aramaeans and northern
Israelites), the Babylonians, as well as the Arabs and Jews.
One theory that has been voiced among the practitioners of ancient history is
that these groups emerged from a common home in Arabia during the early
Sumerian period. More likely, they were descended from various waves of people
who entered the Middle East, only the last of which brought the Semitic
languages. Like the Babylonian king Hammurabi, Abraham appears to have been an
"Amurru" or West Semite, a group that spread out from the Levant to as far east
as Ur and Babylon. Hebrew and Aramaic are both West Semitic languages.
The modern day "Semites" all claim to trace their ancestry to Noah's son, Shem,
from whom they take their name.
Given that the theory of "semites" and non-"semites" is now discredited, the
preferred term to use is "Antisemitism", which has a general connotation of
"anti-Jewish". When written in this fashion, it helps to eliminate the
confusion with the discredited theory. (The use of the non-hyphenated form is
a suggestion of the distinguished historian James Parkes.) Emil Fackenheim,
the Jewish philosopher, has also adopted this spelling, explaining "... the
spelling ought to be antisemitism without the hyphen, dispelling the notion
that there is an entity 'Semitism' which 'anti-Semitism' opposes" (Emil
Fackenheim, "Post-Holocaust Anti-Jewishness, Jewish Identity and the
Centrality of Israel," in World Jewry and the State of Israel, ed. Moshe
Davis, p. 11, n. 2).
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Subject: 16.2. Is there any truth to the myth of the Jewish American Princess?
While there may be a few token women who fit the stereotype, it's a cruel slur
frequently directed at Jewish women in general, and not always by Jews. (see
William Styron's _Sophie's Choice_, especially chapter 7 for some very
offensive Jewish portrayals, including the JAP.)
The most common use of the slur "JAP" is by Jewish men who rationalize their
habit of dating gentile women by slandering the Jewish women whom they
*could* be dating. Many who use the term are unaware of its offensive
nature, so if someone uses it innocently, politely ask them not to use the
term.
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Subject: 17.1. What about (sic) "Jews for Jesus" or (sic) "Messianic Jews"?
QUESTION: Are groups calling themselves "Jews for Jesus" or "Messianic
Jews[sic]" Jewish movements?
No, they are Christian organizations. Sadly, their membership includes persons
who are technically Jewish, but who believe and practice Christianity.
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Subject: 17.2. Is belief in Jesus-as-God compatible with any Jewish movements?
No, the belief in Jesus-as-God is idolatry for Jews.
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Subject: 17.3. What do missionary groups believe?
Their own statements express their beliefs.
Consider the following confession from the "Jews for Jesus" organization:
-----------
| What evangelical Christians should know about
| JEWS FOR JESUS; [the "O" in FOR is
| A C0NFIDENTIAL REPORT: a six-pointed star -RL]
| _not_ to be distributed to Non-Christians
|
| \ /HAT WE BELIEVE...
| \/\/
|
| While others are content to call themselves "inter-denominational" or
| "interfaith," we define ourselves as evangelical fundamentalists and we
| seek the cooperation of individuals and Christian bodies which can be so
| described by their work. Though we will not allow ourselves to be
| committed to any one segment of the church, we believe in affiliation with
| a local church and in accountability to the church for service and
| discipline.
|
| We feel that we are an arm of the local church. The calling of those
| who minister with Jews for Jesus is primarily that of evangelists, and
| we're always mindful of the fact that we should not usurp the authority of
| the local pastor. As we effectively win and disciple Jewish people, we
| feel that they should either take their place in a local church of
| evangelical character, or establish a congregation and call their own
| minister. We feel it is our duty to aid the church at large, and we
| consider ourselves as a working arm of the body to gather in the Lost
| Sheep of the House of Israel.
|-------------------End Statement------------------------------
Also consider the following excerpt from Usenet:
| From: Harvey.Smith ... (Harvey Smith)
| Subject: Doctrinal statement of the UMJC and
| the Messianic Jewish Computer Net.
| Message-ID: <139891.2A95C447@paranet.FIDONET.ORG>
| Date: 21 Aug 92 17:01:06 GMT
|
| [...]
|
| As Messianic Jewish believers we believe:
|
| 1. That we are a part of the universal body of Messiah comprised of both
| Jews and Gentiles and consider Biblical Christianity to be Biblical
| Judaism.
| [...]
|
| 4. Our eschatology is as fortold in Matt. 24, Revelation etc..
| Most are Pre-Millenial without dispensationalism.(overlaping
| dispensations).
|
| 5. We relate to many different denominations and fellowships, some MJ
| congregations are Baptist, some Pentecostal, some Charismatic, some
| Lutheran etc.. Being an Evangelical is the covering that we best
| relate to.
|
|------------------------------------------
Remember these excerpts when a Hebrew-Christian tries to claim that he
practices Judaism. The reality is that he believes and practices
Christianity.
If he's technically Jewish, try teaching *him* about Judaism, which teaches
that one should love one's neighbor as oneself, that one should not bear a
grudge, that the righteous of all nations have a share in the world to come,
that G-d is close to all who sincerely call to Him, and that the Messiah will
usher in a time of peace.
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Subject: 17.4. What sort of deceptive terminology do missionaries use?
Consider the front (pun intended) of a "Communications Card" published by the
"Messianic Jewish Movement International" describing how they hide
Christianity behind a Jewish mask...
_________________________________________________________________
| C O M M U N I C A T I O N S C A R D __/\__ |
| 1. USE THE RIGHT TERMINOLOGY (I Cor 9:20) >_ _< |
| \/ |
| DO SAY DON'T SAY |
| |
| (A) MESSIAH YESHUA/MESSIAH JESUS (A) JESUS CHRIST |
| (B) MESSIANIC/COMPLETED/FULFILLED JEW (B) CONVERT |
| (C) A BIBLE BELIEVER (C) A CHRISTIAN |
| (D) COME TO A MEETING OF BIBLE BELIEVERS (D) COME TO CHURCH |
| (E) 2ND PART OF BIBLE OR NEW COVENANT (E) NEW TESTAMENT |
| (F) TREE (F) CROSS |
| ... |
-----------------------------------------------------------------
The verse in question (I Cor 9:20) reads "I made myself a Jew to the Jews, to
win the Jews; ... I made myself all things to all people to save some at any
cost."
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Subject: 17.5. How can these missionaries be countered?
QUESTION: What can a Jew do to help counter the Hebrew-Christian missionaries?
ANSWER: Numerous books have been written on the subject. Above all else, be
prepared. Support Jews for Judaism. They're a Jewish organization in the
U.S. and Canada which opposes cults and missionary efforts directed at Jews.
They can assist you.
Jews for Judaism can be reached at P.O. Box 15059; Baltimore, MD 21208
(410)602-0276, plus they have regional offices in several major cities in the
U.S. and Canada.
Jews for Judaism offices:
Main Office: P.O. Box 15059 ; Baltimore, MD 21208 Baltimore
Telephone (410)602-0276
Los Angeles: (213) 854-3381
New York: (718) 692-2668
New Jersey: (914) 356-1915
Harrisburg: (717) 233-JEWS (5397)
Detroit: (313) 968-JEWS (5397)
Toronto: (416) 789-2851
In general, missionaries are closed-minded, obstinate, and illogical, relying
upon pat memorization rather than reason. Debate with missionaries takes
place on the alt.messianic altnet newsgroup. For a good example of the types
of debates which take place there, read the annotated dialogue in the back of
the book _You take Jesus, I'll take G-d_ (Levine).
Another source of information on how to counter missionaries is the Jerusalem
Institute of Biblical Polemics. They provide the following online services:
1. Private Counseling. If you have any questions regarding missionaries
(either Christian or Hebrew-Christian) and how to refute them, you can get
answers by sending an e-mail message to: jibp@jerusalem1.datasrv.co.il.
2. Discussion Groups. For those interested in a higher level of involvement,
you can join their discussion group called m-debate. Through on-going
discussion of various problems, they seek to find the best way of
confronting missionaries and helping Jews currently trapped by the
Christian beliefs. To subscribe to m-debate send an e-mail message to
listserv@jerusalem1.datasrv.co.il with a blank subject line and the
following message: sub m-debate [your first and last name]
3. Literature. A collection of literature is available on the jerusalem1
gopher. You can access the jerusalem1 gopher through either the "Other
Gophers" option or by entering the following command: gopher
jerusalem1.datasrv.co.il. Upon successfully accessing the jerusalem1
gopher, you can view the material by choosing the Religious Institutions
option and then select JIBP. If you cannot access the gopher, ask for a
current list of topics by sending a message to the e-mail address
jibp@jerusalem1.datasrv.co.il. Select the items you wish to receive, and
they will send them to your e-mail account. They can also provide quantity
pricing of their printed material.
4. Biblical Polemics. JIBP provides a magazine in both electronic and hardcopy
form. To subscribe ($15/year), send a check or money order to: JIBP, P.O.
Box 13099, Jerusalem 91130. Don't forget to include both your snail mail
and e-mail addresses!!
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Subject: 17.6. Who is financing "Jews for Jesus" and similar groups?
Here are some 1991 budgets of missionary organizations which target Jews for
conversion to Xianity (amounts in U.S. dollars):
Jews for Jesus - 10.2 million dollars ($ 10,200,000.00)
Friends of Israel Gospel Ministry - 5 million dollars ($5,000,000.00)
Chosen People Ministries - 5-7 million dollars.
[formerly the ABMJ - American Board for Missions to the Jews]
( Source: Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability, (800) 323-9473.)
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