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           = MARILLION AND FISH FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS =
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                             Version 1.5

                             Compiled by
                           Jeroen Schipper

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CONTENTS

**** Questions 0-3 are in Part 1 of this FAQ ****

4. New Marillion
   4.1  When and why did Fish leave Marillion?
   4.2  Who is Steve Hogarth and what did he do before Marillion?
   4.3  What is a banquo?
   4.4  What is a fifteen stone first-footer?
   4.5  Will there be a reunion show with Fish?
   4.6  Who is Privet Hedge?
   4.7  What's Brave all about?
   4.8  What studio albums and singles were released?

5. Fish Solo
   5.1  Why is Fish called Fish?
   5.2  What's this talk about a new book called "The Masque"?
   5.3  What does Fish mumble at the end of "Vigil"?
   5.4  Doesn't the guy on the Vigil cover look like Mark Kelly?
   5.5  Who is "Speaking in Tongues" dedicated to and why?
   5.6  Does Fish have net access?
   5.7  Fish the actor?
   5.8  What solo projects did Fish do?
   5.9  What's the Funny Farm?
   5.10 Do you have some more info on Suits?
   5.11 What studio albums and singles were released?

6. Books, videos, bootlegs
   6.1  What books are there on Marillion/Fish?
   6.2  What videos are there?
   6.3  What's a bootleg?
   6.4  How many bootlegs are there?
   6.5  Where can I buy bootlegs?

7. Fanclubs
   7.1  Addresses of Marillion fanclubs
   7.2  Addresses of Fish fanclubs
   7.3  What about the official bootlegs?

8. Other bands
   8.1  I like Marillion. What other bands can you recommend?

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THE ANSWERS

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4.   NEW MARILLION

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4.1  When and why did Fish leave Marillion?

Friday September 16, 1988 was a black day for Marillion fans. Fish
announced that he had left Marillion to start a solo career. It was
explained in a letter to the fanclub:

  "During the process of writing the new album it became apparent
   that differences, both musically and lyrically, between Fish and
   the rest of the band were irreconcilable"

Fish said:

  "I've had a brilliant 7 years with Marillion; however, recently the
   musical directions of the band have diversified to such an extent
   I realised the time had come to embark on a solo career"

The Fish-era was ended with the release of "The Thieving Magpie" which was
a double live album with tracks from 1982-1988, a thank-you to the fans.

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4.2  Who is Steve Hogarth and what did he do before Marillion?

After Fish left Marillion, the band started auditioning new singers to
fill the empty place. Not much luck until Steve Hogarth showed up. He got
the job, but asked for a week to think it over.  He agreed and 'Hogy'
became the new singer of Marillion. He also plays some keyboards, even at
live concerts, but singing is more important. Mark Kelly still does most
of the keyboards.

Before Marillion, Hogarth sang in several bands including 'The Europeans'
and 'How we Live'. He also played all the keyboards on the Australian
avante-pop band Do Re Mi's first album.

Here's a (pretty complete) discography of his pre-Marillion material:

DO RE MI
     19??  Domestic Harmony              CD Catalog #CDV2367, Virgin UK

THE EUROPEANS

7"   1978  Europeans/Voices                     Heartbeat Pulse 2
     1979  On the Continent (or Avon Calling)   Heartbeat HB 1
7"   1982  The Animal Song/ Someone's Changing  A&M AMS 9239
LP   1983  Vocabulary                           A&M AMLX 68 558
12"  1983  American People/ Going to Work(long
           version)/Someone's Changing/ New
           Industry                             A&M AMX 158
7"   1983  American People/ Going to Work       A&M AMS
7"   1984  Recognition/ New Industry            A&M AMS 9714
LP   1984  Live (Limited Edition)               A&M SCOT 1
LP   1984  Recurring Dreams                     A&M AMA 5034
7"   1984  Acid Rain/ edits from Recurring
           Dreams                               A&M FREE 1 (promo)

HOW WE LIVE

7"   1986  Working Town                         Portrait PRT 650088 7
MC   1986  Working Town & Interview (promo)     Portrait XPC 650088
12"  1986  All the Time In the World/ All the
           Time (7" vers.)/Lost At Sea          Portrait PRT 650088 6
7"   1987  All the Time In the World/ Lost at Sea Portrait PRT 650088 7
LP   1987  Dry Land                             Portrait PRT 450618 1
12"  1987  Games In Germany/ Lost At Sea/ India Portrait PRT ?

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4.3  What is a banquo?

In the song Uninvited Guest Hogarth sings: "I'm the Banquo at your
banquet".

In Shakespeare's Macbeth, Banquo is one of Macbeth's friends. Eventually
(you'll have to read the whole thing to find out the details) Macbeth has
him killed.  Later, Banquo's ghost (or many say just a 'mad vision' of a
ghost that Macbeth has) shows up at a banquet he is holding in honor of
Macbeth's ascension to the Scottish throne. Macbeth goes crazy, because he
thought he had had Banquo killed.  It's a great play (plug) as is just
about anything by Shakespeare (plug plug). A must-read for anyone who just
LOVES Hogarth's lyrics. :)

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4.4  What is a fifteen stone first-footer?

Also from Uninvited guest: "I'm your fifteen stone first-footer".

First-footer is a Scottish term relating to the New Year (Hogmanay). A
first-footer is a person (usually this has to be a tall, dark and handsome
male with a lump of coal!) who is the first person to enter your house on
January 1st. That persons would be about 15 stone (which is 15 * 14 = 210
pounds). When this person comes into your house, you must give him all the
food he/she wants!  In other words, after The Bells (midnight on 31
December) you have to ensure that your "first footer" is a tall, dark,
etc, male, and he should be carrying a small lump of coal, which would
traditionally go onto your fire (remember it's cold and dark at New Year
in Scotland!).  The early hours of 1 January are traditionally spent going
from house to house in your neighbourhood visiting people and welcoming in
the New Year (drinking!).

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4.5  Will there be a reunion show with Fish?

There has been a rumor that EMI once suggested a reunion show. Rothery and
Kelly were vehemently against it, Hogarth and Trewavas were for it, and
Mosley was ambivalent, so they decided to can the idea. It's not totally
impossible there'll be a reunion show, but don't wait up...

The closest thing to a reunion was a charity single that both Fish and
Marillion took part in. The single "Sailing" (by Rock Against
Repatriation) was recorded on two days, many British bands and singers
took part. Marillion and Fish were invited to come on different days,
Marillion was not informed that Fish also took part, and Fish wasn't
informed about Marillion as well...

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4.6  Who is Privet Hedge?

Cristopher Hedge (which is his real name) has been with the band for many
years and he takes care of the sound at concerts (at the mixing table) and
also in the studio. There is an interview in Fanzine 2 of the Dutch Marillion
Fanclub (spring '92). It is mainly about the kind of equipment he uses.

Privet is an actual word and it is a small shrub or bush that is used for
hedges around yards.  Not surprisingly it's mainly a british word.

     PRIVET n. any of a genus of shrubs or trees of the olive family, with
     bluish-black berries and spikes of white flowers, often grown for
     hedges.  Also called Lingustrum vulgare (the common privet).

So the name Privet is a nickname given jokingly because of the guy's
surname.

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4.7  What's Brave all about?

Brave is the new Marillion album that will probably be released in January
1994. Here are some fragments from an on-stage interview with Hogarth and
Pete Trewavas:

(To Pete:) "Can you describe the new album?". Pete starts talking about the
music: "Brave" is gonna be a concept album like Misplaced_CH, one long
piece of music. Quite specific, he said it was gonna be 64 minutes (yeah!).
It has 19 tracks, some of which are just bridges between the real songs.
And there are no hitsingles on it, they're pretty much doing what they
want.

(To Hogarth:) "What's the album lyrically about?". Hogy tells a long story:
He lived in Bath (I think it was) for a while and one day he heard a police
message on the radio. The police had found a young girl wandering on a
highway bridge (which is illegal). The girl was in some kind of shock
and wouldn't talk at all, so the police didn't know her name. That's why
they were asking on the radio if anybody knew that girl. This what the
album is about, Hogy said he was very touched by this. And before he gave
back the microphone he said "and may I add that this is just gonna be
he best piece of music we've ever made!".

Initially the title of the album was "Severn", as the highway bridge
mentioned above was a bridge over the river Severn.

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4.8  What studio albums and singles were released?

Marillion with Hogarth has released the following albums and
singles so far (CAPITALS are albums):

1989  SEASONS END
          Side 1: The King Of Sunset Town/Easter/The Uninvited Guest
                  Seasons End
          Side 2: Holloway Girl/Berlin/Hooks In You/The Space
1989  Hooks in You/After Me
1989  Uninvited Guest/The Bell in the Sea
1990  Easter/The Release

1991  HOLIDAYS IN EDEN
          Side 1: Splintering Heart/Cover My Eyes (Pain And Heaven)
                  The Party/No One Can
          Side 2: Holidays In Eden/Dry Land/Waiting To Happen/This Town
                  The Rakes Progress/100 Nights
1991  Cover My Eyes (Pain and Heaven)/How Can it Hurt
1991  No One Can/A Collection
1991  Dry Land/Holloway Girl
1992  Sympathy/Kayleigh (live w/Hogarth)

1992  A SINGLES COLLECTION
          Side 1: Cover my Eyes (Pain and Heaven)/Kayleigh/Easter
                  Warm Wet Circles/Uninvited Guest/Assassing/Hooks in You
          Side 2: Garden Party/No One Can/Incommunicado/Dry Land/Lavender
                  I Will Walk on Water/Sympathy

1992  LIVE AT THE BORDERLINE (fanclub bootleg, see question 7.3)
          Splintering Heart/Easter/King of Sunset Town/Waiting to Happen/
          Sympathy/Kayleigh/Lavender/Heart of Lothian/Uninvited Guest/
          Slainte Mhath/The Release/Hooks in You/Garden Party

1992  LIVE AT CARACAS (fanclub bootleg, see question 7.3)
          Splintering Heart/Holidays In Eden/Script For A Jester's Tear
          Easter/Hotel Hobbies/Warm Wet Circles/That Time Of The Night
          Kayleigh/Lavender/Heart Of Lothian/Cover My Eyes/Slainte Mhath
          The Space/Waiting To Happen/Hooks In You

1994  BRAVE (not yet released)

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5.   FISH SOLO

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5.1  Why is Fish called Fish?

Contrary to the rock 'n' roll legend, Fish was not so called due to his
drinking exploits (though these were many), but to an old bedsit habit.
His aged landlady would only let him have one bath a week, so he would
make a night of it by taking in sweets, cigarettes, cans of beer, and a
good book.  There he would sit quite happily for most of the evening.
Many a time friends coming to see him would have to wait hours until he
emerged as the landlady wouldn't tell him anyone was there.

According to the book "Market Square Heroes":  "Fish, says Fish, suited
him because of the nickname the friend had bestowed after waiting nearly
two hours for him to finish having a bath, and because it was also the
off-stage nickname of Chris Squire, the bass player of Yes, who Fish says
he greatly admired, and not least because it was the name of the leader of
a gang of romantic street-smarts in a TV show from Derek's teenage years.

'It was for all those reasons.  I identified with all those characters in
my head, the partying musician, the leader of the outlaws, and the lazy
slob lying in the bath for hours keeping his bottom warm.'"--p100.

This is why his friends called him "Fish"!

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5.2  What's this talk about a new book called "The Masque"?

Mark Wilkinson and Fish at one point were planning to release an artbook
called "The Masque". The book was to include _all_ the cover art Mark
Wilkinson has done for Marillion and Fish with explanations by Fish
himself on how each piece relates to the lyrics.

The book has supposedly been ready now for many years, but due to various
problems it has not yet been published.  First there were legal issues
with Marillion about the royalties, Then they couldn't find a publisher. I
don't know what the latest excuse is, but it's definitely not for sale
yet. As soon as it is, you'll read about it on the Freaks mailinglist.

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5.3  What does Fish mumble at the end of Vigil?

This is very difficult to hear on the album, but it's easier to hear on
live versions of Vigil. He says:

  "And the boy stood, and stared at the Hill,
   And the Hill stared back..."

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5.4  Doesn't the guy on the Vigil foldout look like Mark Kelly?

Only if you have the first pressing ;-) Look real close (much better
visible on the LP cover) at the picture that's on the inside of the
booklet, and you'll see three men sitting around a fire. They're sitting
in the middle of a lot of garbage at the bottom of the Hill.  The one on
the left is Mark Kelly, the one on the right is John Arnison (the manager
of Marillion).

And there's more: the car on top of the Hill has a license plate that is
very similar to Mark Kelly's license plate at the time...

On the barrel on the left of the picture, the one with the toxic waste
dripping out, it says: "Welcome Skyline Drifters". This was the name
Marillion used on several gigs in the eighties. Notice the jester cap
hanging out of the barrel. Now look at the Seasons End cover.

On later pressings the faces were painted black.

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5.5  Who is "Speaking in Tongues" dedicated to and why?

Speaking in Tongues (from the album "Internal Exile") is 'dedicated' to
EMI, on which his first album "Vigil" was released. Fish was not at all
happy with EMI and wanted to change to another record label. So he changed
to Polydor and wrote this song to express his feelings about EMI. Polydor
was not happy with this, but they let him put it on the album anyway.

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5.6  Does Fish have net access?

No. Although there once was a rumor, Fish does not have net access.  He
does know of the existence of this list and occasionally people have sent
him printouts of the digests. Fish said once that he'd love to join the
list, but don't expect it to happen. He doesn't have the time for it.

_IF_ he would join the list, some people say they expect a flame war
against Marillion and others were worried about posting any negative
comments on Fish.

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5.7  Fish the actor?

Fish has done a little acting, mainly some TV stuff. He also auditioned
(believe it or not) for a role in Aliens III.

He had a guest star role on an episode of Zorro, where he plays a farmer
who's persecuted for being a witch. The episode is called "The Newcomers".

In a mini-series on the BBC called "Jute City", he played a hired heavy,
who tried to kill John Sessions' character in the series (if only it was
for real and he had succeeded!). They also subliminally advertised Fish's
album eg. when he went in a pub, the song "Internal Exile" was on the
jukebox.

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5.8  What solo projects did Fish do?

Fish can be heard on a number of CD's from other artists, this list has
album title and the tracks Fish can be heard on. Also some singles he
participated in, mainly for charity.

Album: Soundtrack Quicksilver (Tony Banks)
     Shortcut to Somewhere

Album: Still (Tony Banks)
     Angel Face
     Another Murder of a Day

Album: Spartacus (Jeff Wayne)
     Fish has some spoken lines and sings two songs

Album: Fall of the House Usher (Peter Hammill)
     Fish is credited, but he doesn't sing anything on the album

Album: Outpatients '93 (The Funny Farm Project)
     Fish sings three songs, including one with Steve Howe on guitar

Single: Live-in World
     Various artists including Fish

Single: Spirit of the Rain Forest
     Various artists including Fish

Single: Say it with Pride
     Various artists including Fish

Single: Sailing - Rock Against Repatriation
     Various artists including Fish

Single: Better World
     Sciennes Primary 6 children and Fish

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5.9  What's the Funny Farm?

The Funny Farm is Fish's own recording studio in Scotland. He build this
studio, so he could write/produce his own music there. But also to promote
other Scottish bands, who can use the studio as well. The first result of
this is the CD "Outpatients '93", which features tracks from several
unknown Scottish bands. To make the CD bit more interesting, Fish put three
of his own songs on it as well:

   "Time and a Word" (with Steve Howe),
   "The Seeker"
   "Out of my Life".

These are all cover songs that didn't make it to "Songs from the Mirror".

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5.10 Do you have some more info on Suits?

The tracklisting will be something like:

   Pipeline, Raw Meat, Emperor's Song, Lady let it Lie, Out of my Life,
   Somebody Special, Mr. 1470, Jumpsuit City.

Fish has played all these tracks many times during tryouts at the Outpatients
tour. Unfortuantely, due to many reason (yet all unknown) the Suits album
won't be released before May 1994. Too bad, because since I was at two
of the tryout I'm convinced "Suits" will be another GREAT Fish album!


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5.11 What studio albums and singles were released?

Short overview of what Fish has done so far. Again the album titles
are in CAPITALS:

1989  VIGIL IN A WILDERNESS OF MIRRORS
          Side 1: Vigil/Big Wedge/State of Mind/The Company
          Side 2: A Gentleman's Excuse Me/Family Business/View From The
                  Hill Cliche
1989  State of Mind/The Voyeur 1989  Big Wedge/Jack and Jill
1990  A Gentleman's Excuse Me/Whiplash
1990  The Company/Punch and Judy (live)

1991  INTERNAL EXILE
          Side 1: Shadowplay/Credo/Just Good Friends (Close)
                  Favourite Stranger
          Side 2: Lucky/Dear Friend/Tongues/Internal Exile
1991  Internal Exile/Carnival Man
1991  Credo/Poets Moon
1992  Something in the Air/Dear Friend (live)

1993  SONGS FROM THE MIRROR
          Side 1: Question/Boston Tea Party/Fearless/Apeman
          Side 2: Hold your head Up/Solo/I Know What I Like/Jeepster
                  Five years
1993  Never Mind the Bullocks (featuring Hold Your Head Up)/Question/
      5 Years

1993  PIGPEN'S BIRTHDAY (Fanclub bootleg (2CD), see 7.3)
1993  DEREK DICK AND HIS AMAZING ELECTRIC BEAR (Fanclub bootleg (2CD), 7.3)
1993  UNCLE FISH AND THE CRYPT CREEPERS (Fanclub bootleg (2CD), see 7.3)
1993  FOR WHOM THE BELLS TOLL! (Fanclub bootleg (2CD), see 7.3)
1993  TOILING IN THE REEPERBAHN (Fanclub bootleg (2CD), see 7.3)

1994  SUITS (not yet released)

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6.   BOOKS, VIDEOS, BOOTLEGS

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6.1  What books are there on Marillion/Fish?

This listing contains some information on the 3 books that are available
on Marillion and Fish (currently nothing on Fish solo).

Title        : Marillion in Words and Pictures
Author       : Carol Clerk
Published by : Bobcat Books: London, 1985
ISBN         : 0.7119.0768
Order No     : OP 43512
Other        : Softcover, 47 pages
Approx. price: US$5.95

     Exclusive distributors:
       Book sales Limited
       8/9 Frith St.
       London W1V 5TZ, UK

     This book is mostly color and black and white photos of the band,
     especially Fish, in concert and just hanging out. But it also gives
     a good overview of the band's history from the early days through
     the release of Misplaced Childhood. Some of its highlights are
     the recipe for Grendels, an explanation of the Fish/Derek conflict,
     and some insights into "The Web" and Misplaced Childhood.


Title     : The Script: An illustrated biography
Author    : Clive Gifford
Publisher : Omnibus Press, London, 1987
ISBN      : 0.7119.1113.4
Order No  : OP 44304
Other     : Softcover 96 pages
Price     : Approx. US$10.95

     Exclusive distributors:
       Book Sale Limited
       8/9 Frith St.
       London W1V 5TZ, UK

     The Script is an illustrated bio of the group by Clive Gifford.
     It's only 96 pages (with a lot of pictures), so it is not as
     extensive as "Market Square Heroes". This book was written after
     the release of "Misplaced Childhood," but before "Clutching at
     Straws." It has a complete discography of all of Marillion's
     singles, albums, videos, demos, bootlegs, promos, etc. with
     descriptions of distinctive features of the work (i.e. picture
     disk).

Title     : Market Square Heroes: The Authorized Story of Marillion
Author    : Mick Wall (foreword by Fish)
Publisher : Sidgwick and Jackson Limited
ISBN      : 0-283-99426-6
Other     : 310 pages

     Address:
       1 Tavistock Chambers, Bloomsbury Way
       London WC1A 2SG
       Great Britain

     Market Square Heroes: The Authorized Story of Marillion is probably
     the most informative of the Marillion books I've seen.  It has the
     least amount of pictures,  but those they have are of a historical
     nature.  I'd say it is the most honest of the various books -- it's
     a real biography, not just a cheap attempt to raise money off of
     the fans.  After reading the book, I felt I knew Fish, Steve
     Rothery, Pete, Ian, and Mark.  The book is tailored for the fan
     however -- Mick Wall's appreciation of the band and the songs are
     quite in evidence.

     It has on the back cover that "The main reason the band and I
     [Fish] wanted this book to be written, was because there's never
     been anything published that truly got to grips with the real story
     of Marillion."  I'd agree.

     If you are looking for facts on Marillion through the release of
     Clutching at Straws, I'd recommend Market Square Heroes -- if you
     want pictures of Fish and the band, go somewhere else . . .

Title     : Marillion: `The Thieving Magpie' (La Gazza Ladra)
Author    : Roger Day
Publisher : Wise Pulications, London 1989
ISBN      : 0.7119.1837.6
Other     : Order No. AM74758.


     This book contains scores for everything on The Thieving Magpie,
     including Freaks and the whole of Misplaced Childhood.

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6.2  What videos are there?

Currently 7 videos exist, all of Marillion. Here's the listing:

Title : Recital of the Script
Time  : 55:00
     Script for a Jester's Tear/Garden Party/Chelsea Monday/
     He Know You Know/Forgotten Sons/Market Square Heroes

     Very good live video from a concert at the Hammersmith Odeon. It
     says on the back:

       "It was the night a dream came through - when two years of motorway
        madness, greasy spoon meals, and interminable club gigs suddenly
        all seemed worthwhile. Hammersmith Odeon - the oft-sought but
        seldom attained aim of every rock band. A capacity audience
        hanging on to every note and a massive stage for Marillion to
        present their stunning visual theatrics in spectacular style.
        Powerful, dramatic music; provocative lyrics and superlative
        musicianship.  A night to remember - for Marillion to savour with
        understandable relish as a major milestone in their career"

Title : Grendel/The Web (EP)
Time  : 28:00

     Contains: Grendel/The Web (live)

     This video has two live tracks; both were encores at the Hammersmith
     Odeon concert of "Recital of the Script". It says on the back:

       "'Grendel' was originally released on vinyl in October 1982 - our
        first ever release on EMI - and an unplanned third encore at the
        Hammersmith Odeon show in April 1983. 'The Web' has not been per-
        formed live since this show....."

Title : 1982-86 The Videos
Time  : 35:00

     Market Square Heroes/He Knows You Know/Garden Party/Assassing/
     Kayleigh/Lavender/Heart of Lothian/Lady Nina

     All the videoclips up to 1986. Some are very good, especially Garden
     Party is very funny.

Title : Incommunicado C/W Sugar Mice
Time  : 8:46

     Contains: Incommunicado/Sugar Mice (videoclips)

Title : Live from Lorely
Time  :

     Slainte Mhath/Assassing/Script for a Jester's Tear/Incubus/Sugar Mice
     Hotel Hobbies/Warm Wet Circles/That Time of the Night/Kayleigh/
     Lavender/Heart of Lothian/The Last Straw/Incommunicado

     Good live video, recorded in St. Goarshausen (Germany) on July 18,
     1987. It starts with "La Gazza Ladra" as intro and some backstage
     shots.

Title : From Stoke Row to Ipanema
Time  : 90:00

     Hooks in You/Uninvited Guest (videoclips)
     Eric (live rehearsal)

   Hollywood Rock Festival, Brazil 1990
     Kayleigh/Lavender/Hooks in You (live)

     Easter (video)
     The Ultimate Gift (live rehearsal)

   De Montfort Hall, Leicester, England, 24th April 1990
     The King of Sunset Town/Easter/Holloway Girl/
     Berlin/Season's End (live)

     This video contains some interview with the band, especially to
     introduce Steve Hogarth, who recently joined the band at this time.


Title : A Singles Collection
Time  :

     Sympathy/Cover My Eyes/No One Can/Dry Land/Hooks in You/
     Uninvited Guest/Easter (with Hogarth)
     Warm Wet Circles/Incommunicado/Kayleigh/Lavender/Assassing/
     Garden Party (with Fish)

     Once again a lot of videos, only the first 4 tracks were not released
     on a video before. Accompanies the CD with the same name. In the
     USA this video is called "Six of One, Half a Dozen of the Other"

Title   : Kerrang! Metal Monsters
Catalog : R0471VH

     This is a Kerrang! compilation tape (or video LP actually) that has
     various video's, including He Knows You Know. Full tracklisting:

     Iron Maiden - "Aces High"
     Whitesnake - "Slow An' Easy",
     Helix "Gimme Gimme Good Lovin'"
     Wendy O. Williams "It's My Life"
     MARILLION "He Knows You Know"
     Motorhead "Killed By Death"
     Scorpions "Rock You Like A Hurricane"
     W.A.S.P. "Love Machine"
     Queensryche "Queen Of The Reich"
     Armored Saint "Can U Deliver"
     Alcatrazz "God Blessed Video"
     Bon Jovi "Runaway"
     Kiss "Heaven's On Fire"

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6.3  What's a bootleg?

A bootleg is a record that contains an illegal or unauthorized recording
of the band. They're also called "ROIO's": Recording Of Illegal/
Indeterminate Origin. These recordings are used to make LP's and in the
last few years CD's. Most have a catchy title and a nice photograph on the
front. How about the first Hogarth-Marillion CD bootleg, which is called
"Something Fishy Going On"....

The source of the recordings can vary from someone who taped a concert
with his walkman, to an original DAT recording directly from the equipment
of the band. Sometimes a radio broadcast is used. Quality of the bootleg
can vary from very poor to excellent.

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6.4  How many bootlegs are there?

There are many bootlegs on vinyl (LP), but I'm not sure how many exactly,
but it is around 250 boots. Far less bootlegs are available on CD,
currently there are 56 known bootlegs for both Fish and Marillion.

A full listing of these CD-bootlegs is available from the listserver, see
question 1.7 for info how to get it.

This listing contains info on date, time, label and location. It also
contains tracklistings and a short review of the disc.

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6.5  Where can I buy bootlegs?

They're usually hard to get because bootlegs are illegal. But if you're
lucky, you can run into some at a record store. They're generally easier
to buy in Europe than the States.

Another way is to buy bootlegs is via mail-orders. Mail order companies
that carry Marillion and Fish boots are located in Germany and Italy, but
this changes often. Check specialized magazine's for ads, otherwise ask on
the list if anyone has more info. Sometimes bootlegs are even offered for
sale on the list.

The Marillion and Fish fanclubs also offer several 'official' bootlegs for
sale, more on this in question 7.3.

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7.   FANCLUBS

Here's a list of all known fanclubs from Marillion and Fish. Both have a
network of fanclubs ("The Web" for Marillion and "The Company" for Fish).
This does not mean the other fanclubs are not official, or not don't get
any support from the bands.

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7.1  Addresses of Marillion Fanclubs

*** The Web UK
    P.O. Box 533
    Richmond, Surrey TW9 2EX
    United Kingdom

*** The Web Holland
    Postbus 208
    2740 AE Waddinxveen
    The Netherlands

    Phone: +(31)-1228-11446 (only Monday between 19:00 and 21:00 CET)
    Membership: Fl.24,50 (Dutch guilders)

*** The Web USA
    P.O. Box 7013
    Streamwood
    Illinois 60107-7013
    Unites States of America

*** Blue Angel
    25.15 Avenue Cachin
    59282 Douchy-les-Mines
    France

*** Real to Read
    P.O. Box 8
    20090 Aeroporte Milano, Linate
    Italy

*** The Release
    Heudorfstrasse 10
    D-7440 Nuertingen
    Germany

*** Jester
    UL-Brzozowa 30/22
    40-170 Katowice
    Poland

*** Flaming Shroud
    23, Dawes Close
    Armitage, Rugeley, Staffs
    WS15 4BE
    England

*** The Marillion Fanzine
    52, Wheelwright Lane
    Holbrooks, Coventry CV6 4HH
    England

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7.2 Addresses of Fish fanclubs

*** The Company Scotland
    P.O. Box 3
    Haddington
    East Lothian EH4 3TA
    Scotland

*** The Company Holland
    P.O. Box 23815
    2502 GV Den Haag
    The Netherlands

    Phone: +(31)-70-399.88.90

*** The Company North America
    dept. kd
    PO Box 20766
    Castro Valley, CA 94546

    For now, one year subscription is $15 and this includes special
    merchandise discounts. This will not be a detailed as the Company
    Scotland thus I recommend keeping your subscription to the Company
    Scotland if you desire that in depth information that Fish details
    there.

*** Company Austria
    Kaistrasse 24/3/19
    1100 Vienna
    Austria

*** The Company Germany
    Post Fach 3022
    5205 St. Augustin 3
    Germany

*** The Company Belgium
    Distelstraat 63
    1030 Brussels
    Belgium

*** The Company Italy
    Via Latuada 20
    20135 Milano
    Italy

*** Company Scandinavia
    Per Hansson
    Lindormsgatan 55
    502 37 Boras
    Sweden

*** Company France
    BP50, 92332
    Chatillon-Cedex
    France

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7.3 What about the official bootlegs?

MARILLION:
Marillion have released two live CD's on their own label, called Racket.
The first one is called "Live at the Borderline" which was recorded at the
Borderline club in London at May 9, 1992. The second disc is called "Live
at Caracas" and was recorded in Caracas Argentine on September 30, 1992.
The Caracas recording is much cleaner and according to some better than
the Borderline disc. Others prefer the Borderline disc because it's closer
to a 'real' live concert (i.e. it's not perfect). More info is in the
bootleg list (see chapter on bootlegs).

These bootlegs are only available to fanclub members, they can order two
copies of each disc.

FISH:
Fish too has released several official bootlegs, 5 total. These are all
high quality double CD's with at least 100 minutes of material and cost
only 14 pounds (plus 1 pound postage in the UK, more elsewhere).  Five
more CD's will be released in the future.

The 5 2CD bootlegs of The Company Scotland are available ALSO for
non-members.  I think you can buy any quantity. The Fish bootlegs are also
for sale in many local CD shops in the USA, for prices between $20 and
$30 US dollars, keep your eyes open! If you're clueless where to look, ask
someone on the list.

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8.   OTHER BANDS

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8.1  I like Marillion. What other bands can you recommend?

There are many bands that make the same kind of music (often referred to
as "progressive rock") as Marillion. Here are some suggestions you may
want to check out:

     Anglagard                          Genesis        (*)
     Aragon                             Haze
     Arrakeen                           i.Q.
     Asgard                             Pallas
     Cathedral (US)                     Pendragon
     Chandelier                         Pink Floyd     (*)
     Dream Theater  (*)                 Rush           (*)
     Peter Gabriel  (*)                 Shadowland     (*)
     Galahad                            Twelft Night

(*) has its own mailinglist.

This is just a small selection of many good bands that make great music.
Every now and then there is a discussion on the Freaks list on different
music than just Marillion/Fish. That's were I got some of the above
mentioned bands. Further you can check out the UseNet newsgroup
alt.music.progressive.

A special mailinglist for progressive music is Gibraltar (address?). They
have a quite big survey file, available via ftp at ftp.uwp.edu in
pub/music/lists/gibraltar/1993survey. This list covers over 1000 bands.
Highly recommended.

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