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- Aug. 26, 1991: Interview:Sylvia Ann Hewlett
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- TIME--The Weekly Newsmagazine--1991
- Aug. 26, 1991 Science Under Siege
- </history>
- <article>
- <source>Time Magazine</source>
- <hdr>
- INTERVIEW, Page 10
- Watching a Generation Waste Away
- </hdr>
- <body>
- <p>Economist SYLVIA ANN HEWLETT argues that America is callously
- treating its youth like excess baggage and throwing away its
- future prosperity
- </p>
- <p>By Janice Castro/New York and Sylvia Ann Hewlett
- </p>
- <p> Q. Feminists call you a backslider and a traitor,
- conservatives say you sound like a big-spending liberal, and
- liberals say you sound like a reactionary. Why do so many
- different groups attack you?
- </p>
- <p> A. Because I am extremely concerned about what is
- happening to the American family. Those of us in the sane center
- are always being clobbered by both the left and the right. We
- think of ourselves as a nation that cherishes its children, but,
- in fact, America treats its children like excess baggage. In all
- other countries, childbirth is seen as an event that is vitally
- important to the life and future of the nation. But in the U.S.
- we treat child rearing as some kind of expensive private hobby.
- </p>
- <p> Q. In what ways?
- </p>
- <p> A. Our tax code offers greater incentives for breeding
- horses than for raising children. We slash school budgets and
- deny working parents the right to spend even a few weeks with
- their newborns. We spend 23% of the federal budget on the
- elderly but less than 5% on children. We refer to pregnancy as
- a "temporary disability," putting it on a par with breaking your
- leg.
- </p>
- <p> Q. What is the impact on children?
- </p>
- <p> A. Children of all races and income levels are suffering.
- Nearly one-third of our children drop out before finishing high
- school; only 6% do so in Japan, 8% in western Germany.
- </p>
- <p> Q. What kinds of changes are needed to address these
- problems?
- </p>
- <p> A. We need parenting leaves, for one thing. When Brazil
- rewrote its constitution in 1988, it was seen as an inalienable
- right for mothers to spend some time with their newborn
- children. In this country, 60% of working women have no
- maternity leave. If they must spend time at home with their new
- baby, they stand to lose their job.
- </p>
- <p> Q. What about private child care?
- </p>
- <p> A. Most parents cannot afford decent child care. I spoke
- recently with a young father in Phoenix. He and his wife must
- both work to make ends meet. He told me what it felt like to put
- his five-week-old baby daughter in what he called a kennel:
- third-rate day care. It was all they could afford. They have no
- health benefits, and neither had the right to time off when
- their daughter was born. The worst part is that their situation
- is normal in this country. But the average European country now
- guarantees five months off with full pay after the birth of a
- child. You would never find a five-week-old child in day care.
- </p>
- <p> Q. In your new book, When the Bough Breaks: The Cost of
- Neglecting Our Children, you maintain that this is a peculiarly
- American problem. Why?
- </p>
- <p> A. When it comes to family policy, we're caught between
- two fantasy worlds, one described by the right, one described
- by the left. The left behaves as if we do not have children.
- They have focused on equal opportunities, ignoring the fact
- that individuals who are nurturing children cannot compete on
- equal footing with those who are not. The left has been so
- concerned with the rights of people to live however they choose
- that they cannot even decide what a family is.
- </p>
- <p> Meanwhile, the right talks about traditional family values
- but does nothing to help families. They act as if we are living
- in the '50s, when women stayed home to raise the children. Day
- care was a dirty word. A hands-off government policy on
- families made more sense then. More families were intact, for
- one thing.
- </p>
- <p> Q. In part because there were strong social prohibitions
- against divorce, parents were expected to put their children's
- interests first, and staying together was viewed as the best way
- to care for children.
- </p>
- <p> A. Yes, even if that is not always true. At least we put
- the children first. These days we treat divorce as just another
- personal choice. Birth control has made it possible to choose
- when to have children, and liberalized divorce laws have made it
- easy to abandon them. Parents now spend 40% less time with their
- children than they did about 15 years ago.
- </p>
- <p> Q. What about the argument that working women have brought
- these problems on themselves and are now asking the government
- to pick up the slack?
- </p>
- <p> A. No, no, no. Working mothers are always the scapegoat.
- But look, real hourly wages have fallen 19% since 1973, so most
- families need two jobs just to get by. If women were not
- working, the American family would be in desperate financial
- trouble by now. Yet we seem to expect women somehow to rear
- their children in their spare time. We persist in thinking of
- child care as a woman's issue. It's not. Fathers are more to
- blame for the parenting deficit in our society.
- </p>
- <p> Q. Why?
- </p>
- <p> A. Too many still think that taking care of the children
- is women's work. And after divorce, almost half the fathers
- drop out of sight.
- </p>
- <p> Q. In your book, you argue that the liberalization of
- social attitudes and the changes in family law are partly to
- blame. Weren't no-fault and other divorce reforms intended to
- help women and children?
- </p>
- <p> A. But they made it too easy to dump the children.
- Twenty-four percent of the children in this country are growing
- up without fathers. At one time, society viewed divorced fathers
- as somewhat irresponsible. Now we see them as eligible males.
- We have forgotten that while marriages may not last, parenthood
- is forever. We are living with the appalling consequences of all
- this neglect. Teenage suicides have tripled since 1960. Since
- '71, the number of teenagers hospitalized for psychiatric care
- has increased from 16,000 to 263,000. More than 80% of them have
- no father at home.
- </p>
- <p> Q. You started out as a development economist interested
- in Third World countries. What made you focus your work on the
- American family?
- </p>
- <p> A. My own experience, to a great extent. I entered the
- work force at a time in the early '70s that many of us saw as
- the Golden Age of expanding opportunities for women. I was
- teaching at Barnard College, which was a leading center of
- women's studies. But when I began to have children, I discovered
- that a lot of people seemed to feel women were somehow cheating
- if they asked for things like maternity leave. Feminists said
- I was asking for "special privileges, a free ride." The men on
- the faculty told me that getting pregnant would jeopardize my
- chances for tenure--and they were right. I didn't get it. The
- thing that really brought home to me the serious problems that
- American families face was the realization that I was better off
- than most. I had a loving and supportive husband and a very
- decent income. I was armed to the teeth with advanced degrees.
- If I was having so much trouble, what about all those women
- without choices?
- </p>
- <p> Q. When did you begin to blame government policies for the
- problems of working parents?
- </p>
- <p> A. About the same time that my first child was born, one
- of my sisters had her first baby. She was teaching at a
- secondary school in Manchester, England. I was astounded when
- she told me that she had seven months' maternity leave at full
- pay. I thought she must live in an enlightened place. But when
- I looked into it, I discovered that it was the U.S., not
- Manchester, that was out of step with the rest of the world.
- </p>
- <p> Q. What accounts for that difference?
- </p>
- <p> A. In the U.S. we have confused equal rights with
- identical treatment, ignoring the realities of family life.
- After all, only women can bear children. And in this country,
- women must still carry most of the burden of raising them. We
- think that we are being fair to everyone by stressing identical
- opportunities, but in fact we are punishing women and children.
- </p>
- <p> Q. In what ways?
- </p>
- <p> A. Working women pay a steep price for motherhood. Look
- what happens: if you take a 27-year-old American woman right
- now, she is doing very well. Whether she is a lawyer or a bus
- driver, she is earning almost 90% of the male wage. But the same
- woman at 35, with two children, working full time, is earning
- 46% of the male wage.
- </p>
- <p> Take a Frenchwoman, age 27: she's earning 75% of the male
- wage. She is not doing as well as her American counterpart
- because she does not have the same opportunities. But take her
- at 35, with two children, working full time, and guess what?
- She's still earning 75% of the male wage. She isn't losing
- ground. And that is because of the extraordinary investment
- France has made in preschool, maternity leave and other family
- supports. She does not have to quit her job when her children
- are small or limit herself to simple jobs close to home. She
- does not lose seniority and career momentum.
- </p>
- <p> Q. Can we afford to match those programs?
- </p>
- <p> A. Good family policy is cost effective. The confusion and
- stress and emotional deprivation in the home are robbing our
- children of the chance to succeed. We are facing a growing labor
- shortage in this country. Yet because of the rising skill
- demands of the workplace, many of our dropouts are simply
- unemployable. A technology-based economy cannot absorb workers
- who are not literate and who lack rudimentary mathematical
- skills.
- </p>
- <p> Q. Aren't you describing mostly the inner-city poor?
- </p>
- <p> A. No. As tragic as their situation is, the problems
- afflict middle-class children as well. Even high school
- graduates are coming up short in meeting the demands of the
- workplace. Chemical Bank has reported that it must interview 40
- high school graduates to find one person who can be trained to
- become a teller. All they are seeking is eighth-grade-level
- skills, and they cannot find them in most high school graduates.
- </p>
- <p> Q. Beyond parenting leave, what do you think we need to do?
- </p>
- <p> A. We need access to free prenatal care. Companies should
- provide flextime and compressed schedules for working parents
- so that they can have more time with their families. We need
- mortgage subsidies for young families and tougher enforcement
- of child-support laws. We should throw sand in the machinery of
- divorce, force parents to think about what they are doing. We
- must hold parents accountable for the welfare of their children,
- and ourselves responsible for the care of America's youth.
- Otherwise we will not make it. Our standard of living will
- steadily decline. And the truth is, only a society that
- cherishes its children deserves to thrive.
- </p>
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