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        LIST OF NAMES, RANKS, AND SERIAL NUMBERS (AND CREW DATA)
                       (last updated 30 May 1993)

This posting is intended to cut down on  the "often  asked questions" about
the Enterprise  crew  that  seem  to  pop  up  every  few   months  in  the
rec.arts.startrek.misc newsgroup.    It  is  one  of  a  number of periodic
postings posted to r.a.s.*

Please refer to the "FAQL:  LIST OF PERIODIC POSINGS TO r.a.s.* NEWSGROUPS"
article for a full list of periodic postings,  and to  the "FAQL:   LIST OF
ACRONYMS" article for acronyms used in this and other postings.

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 1) Names (Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Data, Vulcans, etc)
 2) Ranks
 3) ST:TOS Crew backgrounds
 4) ST:TNG Crew backgrounds
 5) ST:DS9 Crew backgrounds
 6) Wigs, hairpieces, and beards
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1) NAMES:

1a) Kirk's middle initial/middle name.  It is generally agreed that Kirk's
full name is "James Tiberius Kirk".  It was only given as "James T. Kirk"
in TOS, the "Tiberius" didn't come around until TAS ("Bem") and the novels.
In "Where No Man Has Gone Before", Gary Mitchell makes a gravestone for
Kirk that says "James R. Kirk", apparently before Gene had settled on a
middle name (or possibly proof that Gary was failing as a god).

1b) Spock's other name (you couldn't pronounce it, as he told the blonde in
"This Side of Paradise") isn't given in TOS or TFS.  It is given in one or
more of the books if you care to believe them.  According to the Officer's
Manual (and probably originated from D.C. Fontana), it is Xtmprszntwlfd
(pronounced with six syllables).  In the novel "Ishmael", it is given as
S'chin T'gai.

In "Journey to Babel" there's this exchange:
     Kirk:   Mrs. Sarek...
     Amanda: Amanda. I'm afraid you [can't?] pronounce the Vulcan form.
     Kirk:   Can you?
     Amanda: In a fashion, after many years of practice.

1c) McCoy's middle initial  is given  in "Friday's  Child" and  TFS as "H".
Some novels have it as "H", others as "T", and apparently  still other have
his middle name as "Edward".  Geoffrey Mandel's Officer's  Manual lists his
middle name as Horatio.

1d) Data's name was shown on a computer screen once as  "Lt.   Cmdr NFN NMI
Data" ("No First Name, No Middle Initial").

1e) As a general rule,  Vulcan males  have five-letter  names starting with
"S" and ending with "K" (Spock, Sybok, Sarek, etc.)  in honor of Surak, and
Vulcan females have names starting with "T'"  (T'Pau, T'Pring,  etc.).  The
explanations for  Saavik  are  either  "she's  part Romulan,  so the naming
convention didn't hold" or "Her name is T'Saavik, but the "T'S" is too hard
to pronounce.  This is obviously not  a hard  and fast  rule, since Sarek's
father's name is Skon, whose father's name is Solkar.   Either Surak wasn't
very many generations ago (remember, Vulcans  are long-lived)  or the "five
letter rule" wasn't observed until the last few generations.

1f) Other names from Geoffrey Mandel's  Officer Manual:   Montgomery Edward
Scott, Itaka Sulu (though George  prefers Walter  and Gene  and some novels
call him Hikaru (which is what he'll be called in ST6)) , Upenda Uhura some
sources say Nyota), Pavel Andreievich Chekov (also  stated as  such in "The
Way to Eden"), and Christopher Robin Pike.

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2) RANKS:

TOS:  (Franz Joseph's Tech Man) - all stripes 2cm wide.
     Ensign  - No stripe.
     Lr, j.g.- 1 broken stripe
     Lt      - 1 stripe.
     Lt Cmdr - 1 broken stripe above 1 stripe.
     Cmdr    - 2 stripes.
     Capt    - 1 broken stripe between 2 stripes.
     Comdr   - 3 stripes.
     Adm     - 4 stripes.

TOS:  (Fasa rulebook)
     Recruit                    - 'Enterprise Star' (ES).
     Enlisted 2nd Class         - ES with slash underneath.
     Enlisted 1st Class         - ES with 2 slashes underneath.
     Petty Officer 2nd Class    - ES with chevron underneath.
     Petty Officer 1st Class    - ES with 2 chevrons underneath.
     Chief Petty Officer        - ES with chevron and rocker underneath.
     Senior Chief Petty Officer - ES with chevron and 2 rockers underneath.
     Master Chief Petty Officer - ES with chevron and 3 rockers underneath.
     Warrant Officer            - 1 silver broken stripe.  1cm wide.
     Chief Warrant Officer      - 1 silver stripe.
     Ensign                     - No stripe.  (officer stripes are 2cm wide)
     Lt, j.g.                   - 1 gold broken stripe.
     Lt                         - 1 gold stripe.
     Lt Cmdr                    - 1 gold broken stripe above 1 gold stripe.
     Cmdr                       - 2 gold stripes.
     Capt                       - 1 gold broken stripe between 2 gold stripes.
     Comdr                      - 3 gold stripes.
     Adm                        - Thick shaded area between 2 gold stripes.

Movies:  (D Schmidt's Line Officer Requirements)
     Lt, j.g.         - 1 silver pip with gold tip.
     Lt               - 2 silver pips with gold tip. Tips facing. 0.5cm apart.
     Lt Cmdr          - 1 gold bar in a silver cage.
     Cmdr             - 2 gold bars in a silver cage.
     Capt/ Fleet Capt - 3 gold bars in a silver cage.
                        2 gold arrowheads on ends of Fleet Captain.
                        2 silver arrowheads on ends of Captain.
     Comdr            - 1 gold arrowhead on a bronze circle.
     R Adm            - 2 gold arrowheads on a bronze rectangle.
     V Adm            - 2 gold arrowheads on a bronze triangle.
     Adm              - 4 gold arrowheads on a bronze square.
     Fleet Adm        - 5 gold arrowheads on a gold pentagon.

TNG:  The  "pips" (the  circles on  the uniform  collars) signify  rank.  A
      hollow circle counts as a half circle:

     0.5:  Ensign, Junior Grade ?
     1.0:  Ensign
     1.5:  Lt., Junior Grade
     2.0:  Lt.
     2.5:  Lt. Commander
     3.0:  Commander
     4.0:  Captain
     5.0:  Commodore (from TNG Tech Manual)

All the admirals shown on TNG have had two gold  bars, one  on each collar,
each with three gold pips:
        _______
       |       |
       | O O O |
       |_______|

So perhaps  gold bars  with fewer  pips would  be used  for Fleet Captains.
We'll have to wait and see if they ever show up on future TNG episodes.

Deanna Troi's rank was given as "Lt.  Commander" in "Encounter at Farpoint"
(the pilot  episode)  and  occasionally  on  computer displays  (e.g.  "The
Child").

Wes was made an acting ensign by Picard in "Where No One  Has Gone Before",
then made full ensign in "Menage a Troi" and given a uniform.

O'Brien was addressed by Worf's father as "another chief petty officer" in
"Family".  He was referred to as "Lieutenant" by Riker in "Where Silence
Has Lease" when Riker and Worf beam over to the fake Galaxy-class vessel.
The latest set of collector's cards has a card for O'Brien and gives his
rank as Lt Jr Grade.  They apparently decided to demote him for the episode
"Realm of Fear" in order to allow Barclay to give orders to him.  Richard
Arnold (who still works for Paramount even though he lost his office when
Roddenberry died) and the Script Consultant mentioned at a March 1993
Creation con in Minneapolis that O'Brien is a lieutenant.  Forget his old
pips, forget everything else--he is a lieutenant.  Also, he was never a
petty officer because Star Fleet does not have Petty Officers.

Riker was given a field promotion to  Captain in  "The Best  of Both Worlds
Part 2", but was back to being a commander in the next episode.

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3) ST:TOS CREW BACKGROUNDS:

James Tiberius Kirk is from Riverside, Iowa; he was married in "Paradise
Syndrome", and is now a widower.  He was also in love (if he knows the
meaning of the word) with someone named "Ruth" ("Shore Leave"), and
mentioned that he almost married that little blonde lab tech that Gary
Mitchell steered Kirk's way ("Where No Man Has Gone Before") which some
have guessed to be none other than Carol Marcus.  He had a son, David
Marcus ("ST2:  The Wrath of Khan", "ST3:  The Search for Spock").  See also
the "Love Interests" monthly posting for further details.

Leonard McCoy was in love with someone named "Nancy",  whom the salt-sucker
takes the form of in "The Man  Trap".   They were  going to  mention in one
episode that he had been married with a daughter named Joanna, but it never
made it on film.  The  novel "Crisis  on Centaurus"  tells us  how he meets
Kirk, that he is divorced and has one daughter, Joanna.

Chekov's ex-girlfriend (Irena [Irini?]  Galliulin) is  seen in  "The Way to
Eden".

Saavik was  half Vulcan  and half  Romulan.   This wasn't  mentioned in the
movie (probably  cut to  save time),  but it  was in  the novelization, the
trailer shown  on  Siskel  &  Ebert,  and was  mentioned by  Stewart in the
special showing of "The Cage".

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4) ST:TNG CREW BACKGROUNDS:

William Thomas Riker is from Valdez Alaska.  His mother died while he was
young (three?).  His father (Kyle) was shown in "The Icarus Factor".  Wil
has turned down three captaincies (the Drake mentioned in "Arsenal of
Freedom" (and "Encounter at Farpoint"?), the Aries in "The Icarus Factor",
and the Melbourne in "Best of Both Worlds").  He enjoys jazz music (Frakes
wanted Riker's middle name to be the Tholonius (after the jazz musician
Tholonius Monk)), plays the trombone, is a master of poker, and enjoys
cooking.  The character was based on Decker.  He has a double that was seen
in "Second Chances".

Jean-Luc Picard is from France.  He never married, has an artificial heart
(from his wild younger days), enjoys Shakespeare, horseback riding, Dixon
Hill novels, and Earl Grey tea.  He was born on July 13, 2305 (Maurice and
Yvette Picard) in LaBarre, France.  He attended SFA from 2322-2327
("Conundrum").  He was captain of the Stargazer for 22 years.  Nine years
elapsed between the destruction of the Stargazer and Picard's assignment to
teh Enterprise-D (which would make Picard's years at captain's rank at
least 31 years).  He is responsible for the death of Jack Crusher ("Coming
of Age", as well as a few other episodes).  The full story is given in the
1991 novel "Reunion" on pages 193-198, where Wesley asks his prof about
Jack's death.  The Stargazer was going to blow up; Jack and another crewman
had to go out and cut through the nacelle; they passed out; Picard went
out, but could only save one of them, and Jack was not the one.  (Aside:
Patrick Stewart left school at the age of 15 because he was "not
interested".)  He is 59 years old in "The Neutral Zone" (current year minus
birth year), but somehow only 51 years old in "Tapestry" (send back 30
years to age 21).

Data has an ultimate storage capacity of eight hundred quadrillion bits.
His total linear computational speed has been rated at sixty trillion
operations per second (from "Measure of a Man").  He was built by Dr.
Noonian Soong, who was taught by Ira Graves ("The Schizoid Man").  He was
born on February 2, 2336 on Omicron Theta, and was at SFA from 2341-2345.
He has a dead brother Lore and a daughter Lau ("Conundrum").  He and Tasha
Yar were "more than friends" ("The Naked Now").  The character was based on
Questor, from "The Questor Tapes".  Data is left-handed (not surprising,
since Spiner is).  Data dreams.

Worf's parents were killed at Khitomer  in a  Romulan attack.   His adopted
parents, Mr.    and Mrs.   Rojenko,  (from the  planet Galt)  were shown in
"Family".  He has a brother (Commander Kurn), a dead girlfrined K'Ehleyr, a
bastard son Alexander ("Reunion", "Cost of Living", etc), and  a bonded son
Jeremy Astor ("The Bonding").

Geordi LaForge is named after a Star Trek  fan with  muscular dystrophy who
passed away  in 1975  (George La  Forge).   The character  LaForge was born
blind, given sight by Riker ("Hide and Q") which he decided he didn't want,
and decided  against  a  sight  operation  by  Dr.   Pulaski in  "Loud As A
Whisper".  Both his parents are in Starfleet; his mother is an exobiologist
and his  father  is  an  officer  (might  have  these reversed) ("Imaginary
Friend").  He was promoted majorly between season s one and two when he was
made Chief Engineer (for the  first season,  they were  going through chief
engineers left and right).

Deanna Troi has a Betazed mother (Lwaxana, daughter of the fifth house,
holder of the sacred chalice of Riix) and a human father (Alex (episode
unknown) or Ian ("The Child"), a deceased Starfleet officer), enjoys
chocolate, and was imzadi to Riker.  She was born on March 29, 2336 on
Betazed, and was at SFA form 2355-2359 ("Conundrum").  She used to have a
betazoid cat (from the episode where Picard was with the holo-horse).  She
had one child, Ian ("The Child").  Her character was based on Ilia.  She is
an empath.

Beverly C.  Crusher, M.D.  is a widow and mother of Wesley S Crusher, whose
father (Jack) was killed while serving under Picard.  She  was born October
13, 2334 (Paul and Isabel Howard) in Copernicus  City, Luna.   She attended
SFA from 2349-2355 ("Conundrum").   She was  head of  Starfleet Medical for
one year.  (Aside:   Cheryl  "Gates" McFadden  started going  by her middle
name when she stopped doing B movies).

Natassia "Tasha" Yar grew up avoiding the rape gangs and died at the
"hands" of Armus ("Skin of Evil").  When the Enterprise-C came through a
rip in time, it caused a changing of history:  the Klingons never became
friends with the Federation and Tasha Yar never died.  Tasha was sent
through the rip to repair the original timeline, apparently to survive and
bear a daughter Sela with a Romulan.  For a more in-depth explanation, see
the "TIME LOOPS" posting.  She has a sister Ishara Yar ("Legacy").

Guinan has only been on the Enterprise for a few years [episode?], and
didn't know Picard before coming on board [episode?] but somehow has known
Picard for a long, long time [episode?].  She is 700 years old (according
to Richard Arnold at a 1993 Leicester UK Convention).  Her relationship
with Picard is more than family; more than friends (from "Best of Both
Worlds II").  She was on Earth in the late 1800s ("Times Arrow").  She is
left-handed (not surprising, since Whoopi is).

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5) ST:DS9 CREW BACKGROUNDS:

Benjamin Sisko has a "sour space for Captain Picard" (because he lost his
wife during the Borg attack at Wolf 359 thanks to Locutus) and is
struggling to raise his 12 year old son Jake.  He was serving on board the
USS Saratoga three years ago during the Borg invasion, then spent some time
at the Utopia Benecia Planetary Shipyards at Mars rebuilding the fleet.
Sisko objected to being assigned to DS9.  He told Starfleet he had a son to
raise and had been asking for an Earth assignment, not this.  His important
work on DS9 gives him a new direction, but his is still very much a life
framed by tragedy.  He is a baseball fan, but since baseball died out in
the 22nd century he has to visit the holo-suite to visit players and games.
He is gentle, strong, soft-spoken, and short-tempered.

Jake Sisko is your typical "army brat" who doesn't remember life on Earth,
has been aboard four different starships, and stationed on two planets.
This transient life style has taught him how to scope out a new terrain and
assimilate quickly.  At the same time he has an inner fear of forming new
friendships because he loses them so easily.  He dreams of going to live on
Earth.  He collects holodeck programs of various places on Earth that he
uses to try to fulfill his fantasy.  Deep inside he knows that his mom
would still be alive if they did not live in space, and he has a suppressed
bitterness about it.  His father promised there would be other kids on the
station; as it turns out there are only a handful of various alien species.
Only one is his age, Nog, a Ferengi teenage boy who is a bad influence.
Jake is close with his dad; they are buddies.  The boy has no technical
expertise at all.  He struggles with his homework but is dedicated to doing
his best.

Odo is the Bajoran security chief (the character has come to be known
colloquially as "Jello Man").  He is a shapeshifter, much like Martia in
ST6.  He was found alone 50 years ago on a mysterious derelict spacecraft
that appeared in the Denarias asteroid belt and is from an unknown race.
He was found by the Bajorans and lived amongst them.  At first he was sort
of an Elephant Man, a source of curiosity and humor as he turned himself
into a chair or pencil.  Finally he realized he would have to take the form
of a humanoid to assimilate and function in their environment.  He does it,
but resents it.  As a result, Odo performs a uniquely important role in the
ensemble:  he is a character who explores and comments on human values.
Because he is forced to pass as one of us, his point of view usually comes
with a cynical and critical edge.  But he can't quite get it right, this
humanoid shape, though he continues to try.  So he looks a little
unfinished in a way.  He's been working on it a long time.  Someone might
ask him:  Why don't you take the form of a younger man?  His answer:  I
would if I could.  He has the adopted child syndrome, searching for his own
personal identity.  Although he doesn't know anything about his species, he
is certain that justice is an integral part of their being, because the
necessity for it runs through every fiber of his body -- a racial memory.
That's why he became a law man.  He has a couple of Bajoran deputies; he
doesn't allow weapons on the Promenade, and once every day he must return
to his gelatinous form.  He has no sense of smell.  He hopes someday that a
ship will come through the wormhole whose crew can tell him who and what he
is.  In order to keep the writers from using his shape-shifting ability to
constantly save the day, we find that his ability to assume ANY form is
very taxing and he must rest at the end of each day in his natural form,
rather like a bowl of Jello.  He was there when the Feds took over the
station from the Cardassians, and has his own way of doing things, though
he wants to become more human (all Star Trek shows have to have ONE
character who wants to be human).  He'll take the law into his own hands to
make things the way he wants.

Quark is the Ferengi bartender/civilian administrator.  He runs several
entertainment concessions along the promenade, including the main bar,
restaurant, gambling house, and the holo-suites upstairs where your every
fantasy can be played out.  He spends most of his time behind the bar.  If
there is some scam being run in the sector it often involves him.  But
beyond the malevolence he is a charming host, in a Ferengi sort of way, and
forges an interesting relationship with Sisko.  They actually enjoy
sparring together now and then.  The Ferengi lends a hand to dissolve a
problem for the commander -- as long as there's something in it for him.
His completely sexist attitude makes Kira an obvious adversary, and he is
consumed with passion for Dax.  He is willing to help the station's crew -
as long as there's something in it for him.  The Ferengi are ugly, sexist,
greedy little aliens who are interested only in profit and getting their
hands on anything of yours they happen to fancy.

Nog is Quark's teenage nephew.  Nog befriends (and is a constant bad
influence on) Jake Sisko.  Together they get into lots of trouble.  There
are supposed to be lots of running jokes on these characters, due to the
Ferengi nature.

Kira Nerys is the first officer, a former Bajoran terrorist and a major in
the Bajoran army.  She is having trouble adjusting to the idea of peace.
She's a strong, dominant personality, and she is frustrated by the way in
which the Bajoran leaders are frittering away valuable time by endlessly
debating what their next move should be.  This part was originally written
to be Ro Laren, but Michelle Forbes declined the role.  The character has
been renamed, but is otherwise the same.  She has been trying without
success to reach the Kai herself to air her grievances.  It is very
possible she was sent by the government to be the Bajoran administrator at
the space station simply to get her outspoken voice out of ear shot.  Kira
loathes the Cardassians.  She committed atrocities against them in the name
of freedom, some of which bother her.

Miles Edward O'Brien enjoys kayaking and poker, got married to Keiko in
TNG's season four, and had a daughter Molly in TNG's season five.  He was a
tactical officer on one of his previous assignments.  He transferred to
Deep Space Nine along with his family.  He's sorry to leave the Enterprise,
but pleased at the promotion (to Master Chief of Operations).  He will be
in charge of the comings and goings of vessels, plus the nuts and bolts
maintenance of the station.  He's constantly frustrated by the jerry-rigged
way this place is put together.  He saw the Cardassians commit unspeakable
atrocities and lost a close friend at the massacre at Setma III.  The war
changed and hardened him.  The first man he ever killed was a Cardassian
who jumped him on patrol.  As he tells the story to another Cardassian in
the NexGen episode, The Wounded, "I never killed anything before.  When I
was a kid I would worry about having to swat a mosquito.  It's not you I
hate, Cardassian:  I hate what I became because of you".  Colm Meaney has
decided that he would like to switch shows.  Keiko will not deal well with
the change of scenery and following her husband to this hellhole in order
to support his career.  Look of more domestic strife.  He would receive a
commission and would be "Chief Operating Officer" in this case.

Lt Jadzia Dax is the half-humanoid science officer (an attractive
28-year-old trill woman (Lieutenant Jadzia Dax), containing a 300-year old
worm).  For those that don't remember, the Trill is a species which forms a
symbiotic link with a humanoid life form (Dr.  Crusher fell in love with
one in "The Host").  Sisko knew and valued the last person this trill
inhabited as one of his most respected teachers, and has some deep
psychological conflicts with the fact that it now inhabits a beautiful
young woman.  Many centuries ago [on the Trills' home world], the symbionts
lived underground while the humanoids were on the surface.  Due to an
environmental disaster, they were forced to join to survive.  As time went
on this mutual support evolved to become a biological dependency, and thus
two individuals became one.  They speak with one voice.  The symbiont's
life span is far longer than the host's and, as a result, one symbiont will
be combined with several hosts during its life.  When a host dies, doctors
surgically remove the symbiont.  The worm then burrows itself into the new
host.  Dax's host was joined with her when she was an adult.  The symbiont
part of her is 300 years old, a brilliant scientist with an innate wisdom
who can draw upon a library of knowledge built of six lifetimes of
experience.  Kira forms a very close relationship with Dax and often tells
her to loosen up.  Dax admires Kira for her youthful energy, her purpose
and her drive and becomes something of a mentor to her.

Dr Julian Bashir, Lieutenant Junior Grade is the chief medical officer (in
his late 20s).  He is wet behind the ears, but thinks he knows it all.  He
just graduated from Starfleet medical (at the top of his class) and came
out here because this is where heroes are made and this is where the
adventure is (even though he was offered a cushy job at Starfleet Medical).
He is the antithesis of Kira who is street wise savvy but wiser and
cynical.  O'Brien becomes Bashir's confidant.  As a man who has seen combat
and a decorated veteran of Starfleet duty, O'Brien represents an ideal to
the young doctor.  Julian greatly respects Sisko, but is terrified of him.
He is anxious to live up the commander's expectations.  Sisko is amused by
Julian and is very patient with him.  This is the wilderness.  He's got a
lot to learn.  He was patterned after Michael J Fox.

Kai Opaka is the Bajoran spiritual leader.  She stays on the planet's
surface.  The Bajoran are supposed to be very mystic and spiritual.  She
provides sharp counterpoint to the secular nature of Starfleet.  She
challenges conventional human logic.  The Kai seems to have an awareness on
a higher plane of consciousness and knows things she cannot possibly know.
Although our people do not accept her powers at face value, we cannot
always explain them, either.  She speaks in vague, mystical indirect
language, forcing her listeners to seek her meaning.  There are hints that
he has some strange mental powers, which may or may not be explored in the
series (sounds like Guinan).  And like Guinan, she will be in about a
quarter of the episodes each season.  We will find out a lot more about
Bajorans from DS9.  It will be Opaka who finally legitimizes Federation
prsence in Bajoran space, and ultimate entry into the Fedreation itself, as
she develops a strong bond with Commander Sisko.  (Remember that Ro kinda
denies her heritage so you won't learn much about them from her.)

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6) WIGS, HAIRPIECES, AND BEARDS:

McFadden started wearing a wig so she wouldn't have to fuss with her hair
each morning.

Visitor wears a wig.  Her hair is actually shorter than the short wig she
wears on DS9.

Shatner has worn a hairpiece since before working on TOS.  He switched to a
"permed" hairpiece for the movies.

Frakes started wearing a hairpiece sometime after the first season of TNG.

Spiner was *supposed* to be bald for one scene in the episode where he grew
a beard, but they thought Stewart mike take exception to it.

Kirk somehow avoided growing a beard when he was an Indian for a month in
"Paradise Syndrome".

McCoy had a beard at the beginning of ST1 or ST2.

Data grew a beard for a short time in "Unnatural Selection".  He also
mentioned that his hair can grow.

Riker grew a beard after the first season of TNG and has kept it ever
since.

Picard had a beard in Rip Van Riker's dream.

Geordi was seen shaving in a first season episode.

Geordi started growing a beard in season six, but it's hard enough for him
to emote in his acting when you can't see his eyes.

Worf has a beard because Klingons are proud of their beards.

Riker, Worf, and Geordi bet their beards against Bev Crusher's hair color
in a sixth season episode.

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