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- From: s_walter@irav1.ira.uka.de (Thomas Baetzler)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.reviews
- Subject: MINI-REVIEW: Edge text editor version 1.704
- Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.applications
- Date: 12 Nov 1993 05:44:23 GMT
- Organization: The Amiga Online Review Column - ed. Daniel Barrett
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- Keywords: text editor, ARexx, commercial
-
-
- PRODUCT NAME
-
- Edge 1.704
-
-
- BRIEF DESCRIPTION
-
- Edge is a very customizable and very configurable text editor with
- powerful ARexx support.
-
-
- AUTHOR/COMPANY INFORMATION
-
- * USA
-
- Name: Inovatronics, Inc.
- Address: Suite 209b
- 8499 Greenville Avenue
- Dallas, TX 75231-2499
- USA
-
- Telephone: (214) 340-4991
- FAX: (214) 340-8514
-
- * UK
-
- Name: Inovatronics, Ltd.
- Address: Unit 11, Enterprise Center,
- Cranborne Road,
- Potters Bar,
- Hertfordshire 8N6 3DQ
- United Kingdom
-
- Telephone: +44 707 662861
- FAX: +44 707 660992
-
- * Germany
-
- Name: Inovatronics GmbH
- Address: L|tticher Stra_e 12
- 53842 Troisdorf-Spich
- Germany
-
- Telephone: +49-2241-40 68 56
- FAX: +49-2241-40 67 73
-
-
- E-mail: inovatronics (BIX)
- 75300,61 (Compuserve)
- inovatronics (Portal)
-
-
- LIST PRICE
-
- Sorry, I do not have information about the list price handy. The
- going price was DM 100.- at the Cologne World of Commodore.
-
-
- SPECIAL HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE REQUIREMENTS
-
- HARDWARE
-
- 1 MB RAM is required.
-
- An accelerated Amiga (higher than 68000 CPU) is highly
- recommended but not required.
-
- SOFTWARE
-
- AmigaDOS 2.04 or higher is required.
-
- It is assumed that ARexx is running on your system.
-
-
- COPY PROTECTION
-
- None.
-
- Edge can either be run off the original disk, or installed on a
- hard disk.
-
-
- MACHINE USED FOR TESTING
-
- My test setup includes:
-
- o Amiga 3000, ECS chipset, Kickstart 3.0, Workbench 3.0.
- o 2 MB of Chip and 8 MB of 32 bit FAST Ram.
- o Picasso II graphics card with 2 MB RAM installed.
- o Piccolo graphics card with 2 MB RAM installed.
-
-
- INSTALLATION
-
- The supplied Installer script will copy all necessary files to a
- directory of your choice. The full installation takes up about 800 KB of
- hard disk space.
-
-
- ABOUT THIS REVIEW
-
- First of all, I have to mention that these are my first impressions
- of Edge. I have just played around with it a few hours, and so my opinions
- might yet change considerably. I'm planning to release a full review in a
- few weeks after I have familiarized myself well enough with the product. In
- the meantime, please feel free to mail me your comments and observations
- about Edge.
-
-
- GENERAL INFORMATION
-
- Why first remark upon seeing Edge was, "Why yet another editor?"
-
- After all, there's CygnusEd, TurboText, GoldEd, DME, and dozens of
- others - is there really room for one more? The answer is plain and simply,
- yes. Edge has no radically new features, but it manages to incorporate all
- the good features of the other editors. It can be totally customized to
- your liking and your needs. Like you'd expect from a OS2.x application, you
- can select fonts and colors of your liking, and have it run on the Workbench
- or a user selectable screen in any resolution. You have complete control
- over menu layout and functions, so you can easily extend Edge to do whatever
- you want. Configurability even goes as far as to allow you to change
- keyboard and mouse button definitions.
-
- It's got "unlimited" Undo just like CygnusEd, and it's got folding
- like TurboText. If you wanted to, you could make it look and behave just
- like either of the two.
-
- Edge is a very powerful tool in the hands of the experienced user.
- To use it to its full extent, you should be familiar with ARexx or at least
- with programming in general. Customizing Edge takes some guts once it gets
- beyond redefining preferences, requester texts and general menu layout. The
- average user will probably satisfied with the features the plain Edge has to
- offer.
-
-
- SYSTEM CONFORMANCE
-
- Edge's general layout adheres basically to the Style Guide rules set
- up by Commodore. It uses GadTools gadgets and (if you desire) ASL
- requesters, which then can be redirected to the requester library of your
- choice. The text scrolling doesn't use hacks to obtain extra speed, and
- consequently doesn't interrupt serial data transfers. It also works just
- fine on redirected Picasso and Piccolo screens.
-
- Still, Edge isn't as stable as it should be. In the course of this
- test, I have managed to crash the program once or twice. However, I have
- been reassured by Inovatronics that they intend to stamp out every bug they
- can get a fix on.
-
-
- SCROLLING
-
- Speed is something most users expect from a powerful text editor.
- It has to be responsive to input to be usable. Edge delivers in this
- department, at least on the A3000. The scrolling speed is configurable, and
- can easily set to approximate that of your favourite editor. However, with
- horizontal scrolling there seems to be no provision to specify a scroll
- width. If you move against the right scroll border, the whole display just
- scrolls one character to the left. I could not get Edge to do jumps of
- several characters width, which would mean that horizontal scrolling would
- occur less often (see the BUGS section, below).
-
- Fast vertical scrolling using shift cursor up or down is a bit jerky.
- I, like many CygnusEd users, love the way CED produces a still legible
- display in this mode.
-
-
- EDITING FEATURES
-
- Edge provides all of the usual Copy, Cut and Paste functions... but
- twice! One set of the functions operates on a local buffer that is private
- to each display, and the other uses the system Clipboard.
-
- Cutting and pasting of columnar blocks is also supported, and it's
- blindingly fast! I took a massive 511 KB text file of about 8500 lines, and
- cut the first column, and it took Edge all of 10 seconds to copy it to the
- Clipboard. With CED, such an operation takes several minutes! Reinserting
- that block where it belonged is maybe as fast, but I wasn't able to verify
- this with text cut to the Clipboard, since Edge inserts that text above the
- old text, and not where it belongs. Later on, I found out that this is a
- limitation of the supplied menu file, which doesn't give the user a menu
- with the appropriate "PASTE CLIP GLOBALCOLUMNAR" entry.
-
- Search and Replace operations work on about the same scale.
-
-
- MACRO RECORDING
-
- The ability to define macros on the fly is the hallmark of the truly
- powerful editor. With Edge, all you do is select the appropriate function,
- choose a key to bind the macro to, and right then the recording starts.
- Until you stop the macro recording, every action in the editor is tracked
- and recorded as an ARexx program. This means that you could use the macro
- function to create a skeleton ARexx program that you could extend later on!
-
- However, in the current version of Edge, there are some caveats. It
- is completely possible to type in recursive macros, even without bad
- intentions! Just imagine you wanted to redefine the return key to insert
- two returns instead of one: the straightforward way would be to select
- return as the key to bind the macro to, and then to hit return twice.
- However, during execution, this leads to (at least theoretically) endless
- recursion. If you're quick on the uptake, you can hit ESC in time to bring
- up a command requester to execute "hi", which forces all currently running
- ARexx programs to halt immediately. All you have to worry about then is the
- batch of "ARexx execution interrupted" requesters that will pop up.
-
- I'm also still searching for a way to revert a macro key definition
- without reloading the whole keyboard setup.
-
-
- FOLDING
-
- Another power-feature is text folding. Edge lets the user define
- special fold marks that encapsulate the text to be folded. However, those
- marks must be placed in the first column of the text to be recognized. The
- line the fold start marker is in is not folded away, but remains visible.
- This provides an easy way to label a fold.
-
- Hiding and showing of folds can occur at three levels. For example,
- the normal "Hide" operation hides the fold the cursor is currently in.
- "Hide nested" hides this fold as well as all folds that enclose this fold.
- "Hide all" affects all folds in the current document.
-
- The fact that Edge uses certain sequences to delimit folds has its
- pros and cons. While they are a pain in the ass with plain text, they can
- be integrated without problem with any kind of programming language. Having
- the fold markers in your source text also makes sure they are around next
- time you're using Edge.
-
- With ANSI C, be sure to change the fold markers to something different
- from /*FS*/ and /*FE*/ - otherwise you might get some really funny compiler
- errors when you comment out folded parts of your code.
-
-
- WINDOWING
-
- Edge can edit multiple files at once, with multiple views on each
- file. Basically, the number of files and views depends on how much your CPU
- and memory can handle. Each view on a file gets it's own window, so it's
- perfectly possible to have vertical and horizontal splits. All views are
- linked, so that the changes in one view are copied to all other views of
- that particular text passage. This works admirably well, except for the
- rendering of a marked block - this works only in the currently active view.
-
-
- AREXX AND WINDOWS
-
- Normally, each invocation of Edge opens a new file on the first
- Edge's screen. However, you can also force Edge to be opened several times.
- Each copy has an unique ARexx port, named EDGE1, EDGE2, etc. Individual files
- and views have their own unique ports, whose names are created by extending
- the executing Edge's port name. The port of the only view of the first file
- edited on the first edge is of course EDGE1.1.1, while EDGE2.1.3 would
- address the third view of the first file edited on the second running copy
- of Edge. This way, information is easily shared among different views and
- files.
-
-
- MISCELLANEOUS
-
- Reviewing every feature of Edge would surely go beyond the scope of a
- mere Mini-Review, so I'll just summarize some of the other neat features of
- Edge. For one thing, I liked they way Edge handles the local setup of files.
- When a file is saved, an appropriated icon is created. Its tooltypes
- contain the local setup at the time of the Save operation, so you can resume
- your work where you left off. Edge actually places the cursor where it was
- when you saved, and things like TAB settings or bookmarks are preserved as
- well.
-
- Searching and eventually replacing text is no problem at all. Like
- you'd expect, there is a history of strings to search for, and you can
- select the direction of the search as well as whether you'd like to search
- circular - continuing at the start when you reach the end, and vice versa.
- Pattern search is there, as well as a function to copy blocks directly to
- the search and replace buffers.
-
- Freely configurable templates allow for speedy typing. All you have
- got to do is set up a list of templates, and configure a completion key of
- your liking. You then type in a few characters of the template - just enough
- to provide unique identification - and then hit the completion key. Supplied
- is a templates file for the C language that demonstrates how to set such a
- beast up. With this file, you just type w <complete>, and it inserts a full
- template for a while-construct.
-
-
- UNREVIEWED FEATURES
-
- Since information about certain functions of Edge is hard to get, I
- have skimped on the following subjects:
-
- - Dictionaries. Edge does have some kind of dictionary support. From
- what I can tell right now, it looks neat for programming, but
- unusable for ordinary typing.
-
- - Error lists. Obviously some functions to work with compiler
- generated error lists. I haven't found out about these yet.
-
-
- DOCUMENTATION
-
- This is currently one of my major gripes with Edge: the box
- contains only a small booklet of 22 pages, of which 4 pages are a feature
- list, and another 4 pages are dedicated to an ASCII chart. The rest is a
- basic installation description and a guided tour through some of the
- functions of Edge.
-
- The bulk of the documentation is provided as AmigaGuide file. Sure,
- it's all in there, but there's no starting point! I really wish Edge had at
- least some printed programming documentation which explains how the
- individual parts of the program tie together. Looking for certain
- information in an AmigaGuide file surely gives the phrase "RTFM" ("Read The
- Fine Manual") a new meaning.
-
-
- LIKES AND DISLIKES
-
- As mentioned above, the printed documentation should be improved. I
- love having an AmigaGuide file around for reference, but it's just no
- substitute for at least a small tutorial.
-
- Currently, there is no synchronized edit feature. I'm thinking of
- something along the lines of the CygnusEd "ed -sticky" feature, where the ed
- command invokes the editor, and waits until the last view on the edited file
- is closed. This is crucial if you want to use Edge in a newsreader or
- something like that.
-
- I have tried to simulate this behaviour via ARexx: the invoking
- program creates a well-known ARexx port and waits for a quit message from
- Edge. Inside Edge, a "quit & save" function first saves the file, and then
- notifies the caller before closing the window. This function is implemented
- as a short ARexx macro, which leads to an interesting problem: the window
- expects to receive the outstanding ARexx completion message before it
- closes, but ARexx only sends it after having closed the window. Using the
- FORCEREXX option to ignore this doesn't strike me as The Right Thing.
- Ideas, anybody?
-
- The way ARexx is used to make Edge work fascinates me. It means that
- you can use Edge as just about anything! I have already made wild plans to
- use it as the cornerstone of a truly flexible LaTeX system,...
-
-
- COMPARISON TO OTHER SIMILAR PRODUCTS
-
- I'm fairly competent with CygnusEd, as you'd expect from somebody
- who's been registered user since back when CEDpro I came out. If I were to
- sum up my comparisons in one sentence, I'd say that Edge has all the power
- and flexibility you'd expect of a real winner, but that CED has the advantage
- due to maturity and reliability.
-
-
- BUGS
-
- The current binding of the folding keys doesn't not work for my
- German keyboard definition. I suspect the "NumericPad" qualifier is broken.
-
- Entering the wrong scroll values can produce nasty results. I tried
- to emulate CED's jumping horizontal scroll by entering a n-scroll value of
- 40. That itself wasn't fatal. Trying to scroll was.
-
- Insertion of columnar blocks cut to the clipboard doesn't work with
- the default menu. The text is inserted as if it were a "normal" block. This
- could be circumvented by offering the appropriate "paste columnar" submenu
- item.
-
- Edge doesn't prevent the user from entering recursive macros. If I
- bind something to key X, hitting X should not result in a call to the macro
- of X later on, but should instead insert the native meaning of X. This way,
- failed macro definitions could be cancelled quite easy.
-
- Macro recording also has its troubles when recording a menu selection
- that is not an atomic command. I tried to record a macro that would split
- the current window vertically, and then panel all windows horizontally. The
- menu binding "window splitvertical" was inserted in the macro file
- correctly, while the binding of the "panel horizontally" menu entry, a call
- to an ARexx macro program, got lost somehow.
-
-
- VENDOR SUPPORT
-
- Inovatronics have support conferences on Compuserve, Bix and Portal,
- as well as free technical support via fax and telephone for registered users.
-
- I have currently no information about their product update policies
- regarding Edge.
-
-
- WARRANTY
-
- Standard warranty as applicable by local law.
-
-
- CONCLUSIONS
-
- This mini-review has left me with mixed feeling about Edge. It is
- surely a very powerful and flexible product, but at the present it is still
- flawed. Some documentation of the current weak points would surely help the
- user to avoid them. With continuous support and upgrades, Edge could very
- soon become the new state of the art editor. Inovatronics is just the right
- company to do this, as we have seen from their other products, like CanDo
- and DirOpus.
-
- With regard to the rather lengthy bug list and the sparse
- documentation, I'd rate Edge 1.704 as three stars out of five, with the
- option to increase this rating to four or even five if new versions with
- proper documentation and fewer bugs become available.
-
-
- COPYRIGHT NOTICE
-
- Copyright 1993 Thomas Baetzler. All rights reserved.
-
- You can contact me at:
-
- s_walter@irav1.ira.uka.de (fast, will be forwarded to me)
- Thomas_Baetzler@mil.ka.sub.org (slow, but stable and reliable)
- Medic BSS, 2:2476/454.2@fidonet (fido, neither fast nor reliable)
-
- Thomas Baetzler, Herrenstr. 62, 76133 Karlsruhe, FRG
- Voice: ++49 (0)721 29872 Medic BBS: ++49 (0)721 496821
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