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OCR: STALLMAN: There's still copy-protection, and the fact want to bring up the word "ethics" - I felt very un- of FORTH, where the public domain is the soul of it that you don't get the source (codes]; you can't change comfortable last night with a couple of people who got and it's also the curse. The advantage of a programming the program around and learn something up and talked about how they made their living by language is that you can do anything you want to do. STEVEN LEVY: I want to answer Mark's point about stealing from the telephone company. I think it's one so you need complete access to the source code, of intellectual property. I never meant to say that the MIT thing to be a high school kid wanting to show off that course, and then you need to be able to use the products people we ...