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From: spw2562%ritcv.UUCP@seismo.CSS.GOV
Newsgroups: net.general
Subject: internet mailing summary
Date: 25 Nov 85 18:43:12 GMT
Here's my promised posting of internetwork mailing.. There was a
HUGE amount of mail in response to the original posting.. ppl are
really interested in this... It took me 3 days to sort out all
the mail... 8-)
___________________________________________________________________________
Here is a summary of the current information at NETSERV about some
of the networks that are connected to the ARPA Internet (CSNET X25Net,
Arpanet, Mailnet, etc.) and to CSNET PhoneNet.
Please note that the use of the ARPA Internet is restricted to authorized
individuals and is regulated by the Defense Communications Agency.
==========================================================================
Internet ==> Internet user@host.ARPA
Internet ==> PhoneNet user%host@csnet-relay.ARPA
PhoneNet ==> Internet user@host
Note: CSNET-RELAY rewrites the address and
appends ".ARPA" to the host name.
Internet ==> BITNET user%host.BITNET@wiscvm.ARPA
BITNET ==> Internet BSMTP with "user@host.ARPA"
NOTE: SEE GATEWAY BSMTP FOR DETAILS OF BSMTP.
Internet ==> DEC ENET user%host.DEC@decwrl.ARPA
DEC ENET ==> Internet RHEA::DECWRL::"user@host.ARPA"
Internet ==> JANET user%host.JANET@ucl-cs.ARPA
JANET ==> Internet user%host.ARPA@ucl-cs
Internet ==> MAILNET user%host.MAILNET@mit-multics.ARPA
MAILNET ==> Internet user%host.ARPA@mit-multics
Internet ==> UUCP user%host.UUCP@seismo.ARPA or
user%host.UUCP@harvard.ARPA
Note: The seismo and harvard hosts use the
"pathalias" software to find the correct UUCP
routing address.
UUCP ==> Internet hosta!...!hostz!seismo!user@host.ARPA or
hosta!...!hostz!harvard!user@host.ARPA
Note: "hosta" is the sender's nearest neighbor.
The sender must specify a UUCP routing path to
"hostz", a host with a direct connection to some
UUCP->Internet gateway, such as "seismo" or
"harvard".
Internet ==> XEROX user.registry@XEROX.ARPA
Note: Do NOT use "%" between "user" and "registry".
Some Xerox registries are "pa" and "wbst".
XEROX ==> Internet user@host.ARPA
PhoneNet ==> PhoneNet user@host
Note: CSNET-RELAY rewrites the address and
appends ".CSNET" to the host name.
PhoneNet ==> Internet user@host
Note: CSNET-RELAY rewrites the address and
appends ".ARPA" to the host name.
Internet ==> PhoneNet user%host@csnet-relay.ARPA
PhoneNet ==> BITNET user%host.BITNET@csnet-relay
Note: Some PhoneNet hosts have software that
allows "user@host.BITNET". Ask your CSNET liaison.
BITNET ==> PhoneNet BSMTP with "user%host@csnet-relay.ARPA"
Note: See Info Message sites-8 for details of BSMTP.
PhoneNet ==> DEC ENET user%host.DEC@decwrl
DEC ENET ==> PhoneNet RHEA::DECWRL::"user%host@csnet-relay.ARPA"
Phonenet ==> JANET user%host.JANET@ucl-cs
JANET ==> Phonenet user%host%csnet-relay.ARPA@ucl-cs
PhoneNet ==> MAILNET user%host.MAILNET@csnet-relay
Note: Some PhoneNet hosts have software that
allows "user@host.MAILNET". Ask your CSNET liaison.
MAILNET ==> PhoneNet user%host%csnet-relay.ARPA@mit-multics
PhoneNet ==> UUCP user%host.UUCP@seismo or
user%host.UUCP@harvard
Note: The seismo and harvard hosts use the
"pathalias" software to find the correct UUCP
routing address.
UUCP ==> PhoneNet hosta!...!hostz!seismo!user%host@csnet-relay.ARPA or
hosta!...!hostz!harvard!user%host@csnet-relay.ARPA
Note: "hosta" is the sender's nearest neighbor.
The sender must specify a UUCP routing path to
"hostz", a host with a direct connection to some
UUCP->Internet gateway, such as "seismo" or
"harvard".
PhoneNet ==> XEROX user.registry@XEROX
Note: Do NOT use "%" between "user" and "registry".
Some Xerox registries are "pa" and "wbst".
XEROX ==> PhoneNet user%host@csnet-relay.ARPA
[All messages from PhoneNet sites are relayed through CSNET-RELAY.ARPA.
Thanks to Richard M. Alderson, III <Alderson@SU-Score> for corrections
to MAILNET information in the original CSNET-FORUM article. --CDM]
Arpanet ==> BITNET user%node.BITNET@gateway
gateway = UCBVAX.ARPA or WISCVM.ARPA
Arpanet ==> CSNet user%node.CSNET@csnet-relay.ARPA
Arpanet ==> Usenet ...!user@gateway
Usenet ==> Arpanet ...!gateway!user@arpanode
gateway = seismo or ucbvax
Usenet ==> BITNET ...!psuvax1!user%bitnode.BITNET
...!psuvax1!user@bitnode.BITNET
...!gateway!bitnode.BITNET!user
gateway = psuvax1 or talcott
BITNET ==> Usenet MAILER@PSUVAX1 using BSMTP
Lots of ppl inquired about this one...
To send from BITNET to Usenet, construct a file as follows...
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv Start of file
HELO yournode.BITNET
VERB ON
TICK 0001
MAIL FROM:<youruid@yournode.BITNET>
RCPT TO:<user@node.UUCP>
DATA
Date: Current date goes here
From: youruid@yournode.BITNET
To: user@node.UUCP
Subject: gateway
< Put the text of your message here. The blank line between the sebject and
< the beginning of you text is necessary. End you text with a '.' on a line
< by itself, and end the mailing with 'QUIT' on a line, as shown below.
.
QUIT
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ End of file
Send the file to mailer @ psuvax1 as a punch file, class = M, i.e. mail class.
example: on VMS running JNET:
SEND/FILE/PUNCH/CLASS=M filename.ext MAILER@PSUVAX1
Thanx to everybody who sent info, especially to the person who sent me all
the info on Internet and Phonenet. I lost your id. Can you also send me
the GATEWAY BSMTP file? RIT students have restricted access to BITNET, and
I can't get it myself..
==============================================================================
Steve Wall [Snoopy] @ Rochester Institute of Technology
USnail: 6675 Crosby Rd, Lockport, NY 14094, USA
Usenet: ...!ritcv!spw2562 Unix 4.2 BSD
BITNET: SPW2562@RITVAXC VAX/VMS 4.2
Voice: Yell "Hey Steve!"
Disclaimer: What I have just said may or may not have anything
to do with what I was actually thinking...
From: jsdy%hadron.UUCP@seismo.CSS.GOV (Joseph S. D. Yao)
Newsgroups: net.followup
Subject: Re: internet mailing summary
Date: 27 Nov 85 06:08:54 GMT
I am impressed. This is quite an effort; public thanks to steve
wall aka snoopy. One caveat I think must be added (since I fell
into it >1ce in younger days).
In article <9072@ritcv.UUCP> spw2562@ritcv.UUCP (snoopy) writes:
>UUCP ==> Internet hosta!...!hostz!seismo!user@host.ARPA or
> hosta!...!hostz!harvard!user@host.ARPA
> Note: "hosta" is the sender's nearest neighbor.
> The sender must specify a UUCP routing path to
> "hostz", a host with a direct connection to some
> UUCP->Internet gateway, such as "seismo" or
> "harvard".
None of hostb ... hostz may be on the ARPAnet or some other net
that will swallow @'d addresses. For instance, if I want to send
ARPA mail from aplvax and forget that umcp-cs is also an ARPA host,
I might construct:
umcp-cs!seismo!eric@ucbvax.ARPA
Well, when it gets to umcp-cs, the address is:
seismo!eric@ucbvax.ARPA
which gets shipped across the ARPAnet to ucbvax, which then looks for
seismo!eric
Well, this is a bad example since ucbvax just happens to call seismo
right back, cross-country (3250 miles), and I think that there is an
eric there -- but not the one i was sending mail to, on ucbvax!
[Potential flamers -- I didn't say HOW ucbvax called seismo back.]
The bottom line is, that you want the shortest UUCP route to an ARPA
server. You may have gathered from above that it's possible to go
through the ARPA net and then back onto UUCP, which is true, and
left as an exercise for those who don't want to send a stamped
self-addressed packet envelope.
Incidentally, seismo.CSS.GOV (sometimes incorrectly identified as
seismo.arpa) has been complaining that so much mail passes through
their site every day, that if they charged a penny a kilobyte they
could all retire as billionaires. One report says that factions are
split between doing that and losing their mail-forwarding software.
;-) Seriously, if anyone can find a site other than seismo to
forward through, I know some folk who'd appreciate it.
--
Joe Yao hadron!jsdy@seismo.{CSS.GOV,ARPA,UUCP}