CP/M/CPM_CDROM.iso/simtel/archives/cpm/8012-1.txt

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 3-Dec-80 04:05:00,653;000000000000
Date: Wednesday, 3 December 1980  04:05-MST
From: GZ at MIT-MC (Gail Zacharias)
To:   INFO-CPM at MIT-MC
cc:   GZ at MIT-MC
Subject: up/down loading programs

At FJW's request I have placed 3 files in the CPM directory:
    CPM;DOWN   LOAD  - a lisp program for simple down-loading
    CPM;UP     LOAD  - a lisp program for simple up-loading
        CPM;UPDOWN DOC   - documentation on using the programs
These have not been tested at non-ITS sites - if you can get them
to work somewhere else, you should probably let people know (they are
meant to be run as LISP init files).  Please send any comments directly
to me as I am not on this list.
 4-Dec-80 18:23:00,774;000000000000
Date: Thursday, 4 December 1980  18:23-MST
From: Frank J. Wancho <FJW at MIT-MC>
To:   INFO-CPM at MIT-MC
Subject: [W8SDZ: New SDZ hex file]

Date: 12/04/80 19:43:01
From: W8SDZ
Re:   New SDZ hex file


This [MC:CPM;SD HEX] is SD.HEX as of 12/2/80.  This file replaces
earlier versions, which had a problem in the print routine which
caused it to print garbage from memory after the last file name was
printed.  When loaded, the COM file CRC = 87 6C.  See SD.ASM
[MC:CPM;SD ASM] as of 12/2/80 for details on assembly options,
including a narrower display for those with 64 character screens.  SD
is compatible with CP/M 1.4, 2.x and MP/M.  Under CP/M 2.x or MP/M, it
will show SYS files if the following command is used SD *.* S .

Keith Petersen, W8SDZ
 5-Dec-80 05:36:00,1696;000000000000
Date: Friday, 5 December 1980  05:36-MST
From: Frank J. Wancho <FJW at MIT-MC>
To:   INFO-CPM at MIT-MC, NORTH-STAR-USERS at MIT-MC
Subject: [W8SDZ: New developments at Northstar]

Date: 12/05/80 01:59:22
From: W8SDZ
Re:   New developments at Northstar

Northstar is going to offer CP/M directly.  Apparently they are
expanding their support for CP/M to the point where it makes more
sense to offer it direct instead of referring sales to Lifeboat.
   Northstar will soon be offering a new memory board that has some
sort of memory-mangement built into it so that the Z80 processor can
address over 300k of ram WITHOUT BANK SWITCHING!  The process is said
to be transparent to the user, making the system look as if it had
over 300k of RAM!
--------------------

The N* CP/M will retail for $230 and include support for their hard
disk.  The hard disk version from Lifeboat is $250.  My dealer has
placed an order for it and I will be receiving that copy to evaluate.
I'll have a report for you soon after I get it.

If we can combine that memory management board and, say, Godbout's
recently announced 128K RAM board, maybe we can seriously consider
offloading some of our medium sized FORTRAN programs into dedicated
single-user micros...

--Frank

P.S. In a slightly related topic for N* hardware hackers who have the
older series processor board made prior to about April this year: I
have the phantom line modification instructions available for anyone
who wants to try it.  N* claims it shouldn't, but several local users
have tried it here and claim it works.  If there is enough interest, I
will key it in and pass it along to try at your own risk...
 5-Dec-80 23:19:00,641;000000000000
Date: Friday, 5 December 1980  23:19-MST
From: GYRO at MIT-MC (Scott W. Layson)
To:   INFO-CPM at MIT-MC
Subject: Disk controller

Reading MC:CPM;DSKCMP DOC, I see that someone [all the names were deleted] has
a CP/M 2.2 CBIOS for the Versafloppy II, as well as a bootloader.  I would kill
to obtain these [well, almost].  I.e., I have a Versafloppy II and rather dislike
SDOS; not only is it inherently slow, but I can't run SPEED under it.  To whoever
has this 2.2: hello, are you out there?  Can anyone give me any hints as to who
it might be?  The message seemed to imply that the software lived on a CBBS.

-- Scott Layson
 6-Dec-80 01:29:00,2152;000000000000
Date: Saturday, 6 December 1980  01:29-MST
From: Frank J. Wancho <FJW at MIT-MC>
To:   INFO-CPM at MIT-MC
Subject: CRCK.ASM and MLIST.HEX Available

[ Administrivia: Do you prefer receiving these more detailed
descriptions of the files added to CPM; or the short one-liners?
Replies to INFO-CPM-REQUEST@MIT-MC, please.  --Frank]


From Keith Petersen (W8SDZ@MC):

MC:CPM;CRCK ASM

                         CRCK.ASM version 4.2
                       by Keith Petersen, W8SDZ
                          (revised 10/6/80)

              ----> NOTE: MUST BE ASSEMBLED BY MAC <----

    CRCK is a program to read any CP/M file and print a
    CYCLIC-REDUNDANCY-CHECK number based on the CCITT standard
    polynominal:

             X^16 + X^15 + X^13 + X^7 + X^4 + X^2 + X + 1

    Useful for checking accuracy of file transfers.  More accurate
    than a simple checksum.

    Optionally will write an output file to the default drive, listing
    the CRC's of all files checked in a single session.

    COMMANDS:   CRCK [drive:]<filename.filetype> [F]
--------------------

MC:CPM;MLIST HEX

     MLIST.COM - V3.4 by Keith Petersen, W8SDZ (revised 9/21/80)

    This program lists any size ASCII file by name, reading up to 16k
    of the file into memory at one time, in order to minimize disk
    activity during printout.

    Allows listing of multiple files by using normal CP/M ambiguous
    file names (i.e., MLIST *.ASM).  Before each file is printed, the
    FILENAME.TYPE is displayed.

    Use CTL-S to pause, CTL-C to abort.
    Other characters are ignored.

    This program allows CP/M 1.4 users to have protected ASCII files
    on a remote system, provided that the CCP 'REN' (rename) and
    'TYPE' functions have been changed to some other characters and
    MLIST.COM has been renamed to TYPE.COM.  To protect a file, rename
    it so the last character of the file type is #.  Example -
    MYFILE.AS#

    CP/M 2.x users may use 'TAG.COM' to set the f1' attribute of a
    file, which will prevent this program from listing it.

====================
 7-Dec-80 13:34:00,839;000000000000
Date: Sunday, 7 December 1980  13:34-MST
From: BHUBER at USC-ECL
To:   INFO-CPM at MIT-MC
cc:   BHuber at USC-ECL
Subject: Apple and CP/M

I am [slowly] learning what CP/M can and cannot do as I become more familiar
with the Microsoft card.  I have looked around for additional reading matter
on this subject, but don't really find a lot of information.  Rather than ask
a whole bunch of questions, I plan to learn via the "hack" approach.  But
there is one application that I am most anxious to transition over from the
regular Apple software:  a mailing list program that can handle multiple disk
drive data.  Much to my dismay, Lifeboat wasn't much help; apparently not
too much software has been (or is capable of being?) converted to the Apple
CP/M -- problem centers around the unique disk format.

Comments?

Bud
 8-Dec-80 02:14:00,861;000000000000
Date: Monday, 8 December 1980  02:14-MST
From: POURNE at MIT-MC (Jerry E. Pournelle)
To:   INFO-MICRO at MIT-MC, INFO-CPM at MIT-MC, ENERGY at MIT-MC
Subject: terminal inquiry

I am revamping my system and its possible a terminal (rather
than the memory-mapped system I am using) would be better.  If
money is not really critical (I wouldn't care to spend enormous
sums on just a terminal because it would be cheaper to get
another micro and make it simulate a terminal) what are good
terminals?
    Good = Typewriter key layout; cursor control keys; gold
key (ie if possible able to set all bits); prefer programmable
keys to aid in text editing; essential that it have ALL ASCII
characters including ~ and | and such like.
    For that matter, I know little of terminals and would be
interested in knowing what DOES make one better than another...
17-Dec-80 04:44:00,146;000000000000
Date: Wednesday, 17 December 1980  04:44-MST
From: WLG at MIT-MC (Wayne Gordon)
To:   INFO-CPM at MIT-MC

please add me to this list.

wlg
19-Dec-80 20:00:00,1145;000000000000
Date: Friday, 19 December 1980  20:00-MST
From: Frank J. Wancho <FJW at MIT-MC>
To:   INFO-CPM at MIT-MC
Subject: More files

Of those who bothered to express an opinion, it was 5:1 in favor of
the long form announcements of new files available in MC:CPM;.

New are:

TY2741 ASM - a modification of an old version of PLINK to emulate an
EBCDIC or Correspondence Code terminal.  Can be modified to work in
reverse by exchanging the CALLs.  Does not support shifted codes, but
can be extended to do that.  Should anyone do that, please submit the
changed version.

The rest below are from W8SDZ (Keith Petersen):

SD ASM and SD HEX - upgraded version of SD (Sorted Directory).

DIRF ASM and DIRF MAC -

    This file contains routines which can be included in any CP/M
    program to allow listing the directory.  No sorting is done
    because that would require use of more memory above the program.
    These routines use the 80h default buffer for all operations so if
    you have data there be sure to move it before running this
    directory function.  Assume all registers destroyed when calling
    'DIRF'.
19-Dec-80 20:03:00,4745;000000000000
Date: Friday, 19 December 1980  20:03-MST
From: Frank J. Wancho <FJW at MIT-MC>
To:   INFO-CPM at MIT-MC
Subject: SIG/M December Newsletter

        The SIG/M Report (December 1980)
             by Bruce Ratoff

   The    SIG/M software library seems to have drawn great interest
from  CP/M users both in and out of our  geographical  area.  The
November  SIG/M  meeting at UCTI saw long lines of ACGNJ  members
waiting  to  copy the available diskettes.  Many thanks  to  Jeff
Kashinsky,  whose system got a real workout doing the copying.    A
number    of  individuals  have  volunteered  their  assistance  in
distributing  the library.  Their names and phone  numbers  (some
BBS,  some  voice) appear below.  It is hoped that this  interest
will  continue,  for a group such as SIG/M needs broad support in
order to succeed.

   One    regrettable mishap has occurred in compiling the  library
disks.    Diskette number 4,  a collection of CP/M  utilities,  was
defective at the time of the users' group meeting. Henry Kee, who
compiled  this diskette,  seems to have discovered (the hard way)
an  incompatibility  between Digital Research  PIP  and  Cromemco
CDOS. The end result was several bad files. The diskette has been
re-created and verified, and will be available for copying at the
next  users'  group  meeting.  Those  of  you  who  received  the
defective copies will of course receive a new one at no charge.

            SIG/M LOCAL COORDINATORS

   The    following  people  and organizations have  offered  their
assistance in distributing the library:

  Kevin O'Connell                609-461-4351
      Distribution for southern New Jersey

  Ray Glueck                    201-227-5361
      Conversion/distribution on Micropolis format.

  Dave Hardy - Technical CBBS            313-846-6127
      Distribution via modem in Dearborn, MI

  Howard Moulton - SJBBS             (R)617-388-5125
      Distribution via modem in Amesbury, MA

  Keith Petersen - Remote CP/M             (R)313-588-7054
      Distribution via modem in Royal Oak, MI

  Kelley Smith - MP/M-Net            805-527-9321
      Distribution via modem in Simi Valley, CA

  Bruce Ratoff - Remote CP/M             (R)201-283-2724
      Distribution via modem in Iselin, NJ

   Note  that  the  (R)  symbol indicates  a  modem  system  that
requires "ring back".  These systems are accessed by dialing  the
listed    number,  letting the phone ring exactly once,  hanging up
and  dialing again within a time limit (usually 40  seconds).  If
you  had  previously  offered your help and your  name    does  not
appear above, let me know and it will be listed next month.

   We are of course always looking for more help.  If you operate
a  dial-up system with software exchange capability,  or you  can
assist in distributing the library to some group of users not yet
represented, please contact us by phone or via letter to our post
office box: SIG/M, P.O. Box 97, Iselin, NJ 08830

               SIG/M CHAIRPERSONS

      Bruce Ratoff, Iselin, NJ    201-283-2724
      Bill Chin, Clifton, NJ    201-778-5140
      Marty Nichols, Dover, NJ    201-361-7180
      Henry Kee, Flushing, NY    212-539-3202


              CURRENT SIG/M VOLUMES

      SIG/M001    Standard ADVENTURE object code.
      SIG/M002    Standard ADVENTURE source code.
      SIG/M003    Super ADVENTURE object code.
      SIG/M004    Assembler-language utilities.
      SIG/M005    8080/8085 diagnostics package.
      SIG/M006    6502 monitor and simulator.
      SIG/M007    modem and BBS utilities.

   These  diskettes are available for a donation of $4    each,  at
the  users' group meetings or by writing to SIG/M at the  address
given above.  When ordering the diskettes by mail, please include
an additional $2 for postage. The catalog listings of each volume
may  be found on all participating BBS's,  or may be obtained  by
sending a self- addressed stamped envelope to SIG/M.

            TIP-OF-THE-MONTH

   Changing  the CP/M 2.2 backspace:  As many of you  know,  CP/M
version 2 allows hardcopy-style line editing,  via the rubout and
control-U  keys,  as  well as CRT-style  line  editing,  via  the
backspace  (control-H) and control-X keys.  As supplied,  the CRT
editing keys use a "backspace, forward space, backspace" sequence
to erase characters from the screen.  If your terminal requires a
character code other than control-H (08H) to move the cursor left
one character, you may patch the correct character into locations
1373H and 13ADH of MOVCPM. If you then use the modified MOVCPM to
create a new system, it will use the new backspace character that
you have designated.

   If  you have a CP/M question or know a "trick" that you  would
like to see as a "tip-of-the-month", please contact me via either
the mailing address or telephone number listed above.
21-Dec-80 20:40:00,485;000000000000
Date: Sunday, 21 December 1980  20:40-MST
From: Frank J. Wancho <FJW at MIT-MC>
To:   INFO-CPM at MIT-MC
Subject: INDEX available

(This mailing is also a test a new format of this mailing list.)

MC:CPM;-CPM- INDEX contains a brief abstract of each file in the CPM
directory on MIT-MC.  This file will be updated with an abstract of each
new file as it is added to this directory.

As usual, this, and all files in CPM may be FTP'd from MC without
logging in.

--Frank
22-Dec-80 20:45:00,375;000000000000
Date: 22 Dec 1980 at 1945-PST
From: Walt at Rand-Unix
To:   Info-CPM at Mc
Subject: Console Status

My CP/M 2.2 Interface Guide says function 11 returns FF when a character is
ready.  Two different machines say it returns a 1.  Is the manual wrong?
Does CP/M generally consider nonzero "close enough" when the manual says FF?
Someone please unconfuse a CP/M novice.
22-Dec-80 23:10:00,284;000000000000
Date: Monday, 22 December 1980  23:10-MST
From: Frank J. Wancho <FJW at MIT-MC>
To:   Walt at RAND-UNIX
cc:   INFO-CPM at MIT-MC
Subject: Console Status

Depends on your CBIOS.  I'd check for non-zero/zero rather than
specifically for FFH/0 to be on the safe side.

--Frank
24-Dec-80 17:18:00,410;000000000000
Date: 24 Dec 1980 (Wednesday) 2018-EDT
From: PLATTS at WHARTON-10 (Steve Platt)
To:   info-cpm at MIT-MC
Subject: copyrights of mc:cpm; software

  What are the copying rights of the SW stored under this account?
I'd like to include the mass in the PACS (Phila. Area Computer Society)
CP/MUG library.
  If some is copy restricted and some isn't, please say so in
CPM; -CPM- INDEX.  Thanx.
   -Steve
24-Dec-80 19:12:00,1102;000000000000
Date: Wednesday, 24 December 1980  19:12-MST
From: Frank J. Wancho <FJW at MIT-MC>
To:   PLATTS at WHARTON-10
cc:   INFO-CPM at MIT-MC
Subject: copyrights of mc:cpm; software

All of the software in this directory is in the public domain.  As far
as I know, only MicroTELNET (MTNxx) is copyrighted (by me) and is not
for sale.  I would prefer that you hold off distributing that version
(1.3) off net until the next version becomes available.

This query brings up a point that I would like to take the opportunity
to reinforce:  software submitted for inclusion in the CPM directory
MUST be in the public domain.

How to submit a file: I normally receive each file as a message from
which I trim off the mailer header and trailer, and copy to the CPM
directory.  I then download the file and either assemble or LOAD it to
verify that it is a good copy, and then announce its existence to this
list.  There is nothing to stop you from submitting a file directly
and making your own announcement, provided that you also download the
copy and make the same verification.

--Frank
28-Dec-80 16:17:00,347;000000000000
Date: Sunday, 28 December 1980  16:17-MST
From: HGBaker.Symbolics at MIT-Multics
To:   info-apple at MIT-MC, info-cpm at MIT-MC
Subject: Microsoft CPM

Does anyone have any experience with this?  Do the standard down-loading things
work with the Com card?
Does anyone have programs to convert to/from DOS and Pascal disks to CPM?
Thanks.
29-Dec-80 18:18:00,1261;000000000000
Date: Monday, 29 December 1980  18:18-MST
From: Frank J. Wancho <FJW at MIT-MC>
To:   INFO-CPM at MIT-MC
Subject: [CLJ: forwarded]: Keybits' Wordsearch

[Note: This is NOT from me, FJW.  Thus, private replies to CLJ@MC,
please; public replies to INFO-CPM@MC, of course.  --Frank]

Date: 12/29/80 18:49:23
From: CLJ
To:   INFO-CPM-REQUEST

Two things:
A review:  I just bought wordsearch from Keybits

Po box 592293,   Miami Florida [phone].
It is a spelling system program (which i am not using in composing this
message)  which runs on CPM machines.  It seems to work fairly well.
It will prepare a list of all words not in a dictionary, but in a documetn--
etc.  it allows you to update dictionaris easily.   (You can see now why I
bought it.)  It set me back $195--but its worth it in our application.
I use it with Magic Wand.  The author appears to be a wordstar user--and itws
control structure is modelled after wordstar.


A question:  Is anyone out there familiar with Pascal/M from a supplier
called Sorcim?  If so, is it any good?  Is there a better Pascal to
use on CPM machines.  I want it for two uses.  education and general
scientific programming.  Does this afeect your recommendation?

Regards
Chuck
30-Dec-80 06:26:00,312;000000000000
Date: Tuesday, 30 December 1980  06:26-MST
From: ELIOT at MIT-MC (Eliot Scott Ramey)
To:   INFO-CPM at MIT-MC

What is MTN, on the CPM directory.  I once saw it refered to as, Micro TELNET.
But that doesnt really explain what it does, or is.  please, can someone give me a description of it?
                    -Eliot.
30-Dec-80 13:55:00,1334;000000000000
Date: Tuesday, 30 December 1980  13:55-MST
From: Frank J. Wancho <FJW at MIT-MC>
To:   ELIOT at MIT-MC
cc:   FJW at MIT-MC, INFO-CPM at MIT-MC
Subject: What is MTN

MTN 1.3 is a modem program written for the Z80 and designed to run
under CP/M with up and download capabilities and auto-dial modem
control.  It has many dynamically changeable options, such as Modem
(internal DCHayes or PMMI, or external), Dial/Redial/Hangup, Record
ON/OFF, Write to disk, Xmit from disk using wait-for-LF-echo, Flow
control for input (XON/XOFF or none), Binary or Text mode record or
transmittion of files, half or fullduplex, 10 soft keys with up to 31
characters per key, status report of settings and buffer state,
interactive mode to set each mode, and "built-in" help documentation.
There is also a startup customization sequence which will let you
predefine these modes and keys and save that version to run later.

Since I wrote that version and released it for free, Lifeboat came out
with BSTMS for $200, which is very similar, but will run on an
8080/Z80 machine.  Meanwhile, bug reports and feature requests have
been coming in, and a new version of MTN is currently being written
and debugged with old bugs fixed and several new features implemented.

For the rest of the details, read MC:CPM;MTN DOC.

--Frank
12-Dec-80 15:32:00,1190;000000000000
Date: Saturday, 12 December 1980, 17:32-EST
From: David Vinayak Wallace <Gumby.MIT-OZ@BRL>
Subject: Floppy Disk Warning!!!
To: Jerry E Pournelle <POURNE@Mit-Mc>
Cc: info-cpm at BRL
Via:  Mit-Mc; 12 Dec 82 17:28-EST
Via:  Brl; 12 Dec 82 17:49-EST
Via:  Brl-Bmd; 12 Dec 82 17:52-EST

    Date: 12 December 1982 02:53-EST
    From: Jerry E Pournelle <POURNE@Mit-Mc>

        Query: does anyone have a program that will cause the
    heads to load although nothing is being read?  This to allow use
    of head cleaning disks.  I suppose this might be specific to the
    controller used?  I have a CompuPro Disk One in two separate
    machines (8085/8088 and z-80).  It's nt simple to get them to
    clean the heads, or is it?

It's surprisingly simple. You can write a simple basic program or just
do it interactively. Look up the controller IO addressses in your manual
and then look up which numbers cause the heads to seek to track 77. You
can then just do OUT xx,yy for the appropriate values of xx and yy. be
careful about hax and decimal! your manual will probably give you the
numbers in HEX or OCTAL! Either convert them yourself or have basic do
it for you.