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INFO-CPM Digest             Sun,  1 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue   1

Today's Topics:
                 MEX 1.14 fixes uploaded to SIMTEL20
                            SIMTEL20.ARPA
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Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1989  00:58 MST
From: Keith Petersen <[e-mail]>
Subject: MEX 1.14 fixes uploaded to SIMTEL20

Now available from SIMTEL20 via standard anonymous FTP:

Filename            Type     Bytes     CRC

Directory PD2:<CPM.MEX>
MEX114FX.LBR            BINARY      2816  FC00H

Here is the author's short doc file:

     This library contains a patch that fixes several
longstanding bugs in MEX V1.14.  The patch does not add any new
features;  the idea was to fix a few things that never quite
worked as documented, and to fix the CompuServe "A" protocol
which stopped working when ComuServe made changes to its
software.  Since the program's author no longer seems to be
interested in updating this free program, I decided to fix what I
could by patching.  Please note, however, that MEX is a
copyrighted program and as such should not be distributed with
this patch installed.


                             WARNING

               In order to make room in the
               program for these fixes, it was
               necessary to use some Z80-specific
               instructions.  Once this patch file
               has been installed, MEX will no
               longer run on an 8080 or 8085
               processor.  If your system does not
               have a Z80 or Z80 compatible CPU,
               DO NOT INSTALL THIS PATCH!


     Installing the patch will cause the following changes in
MEX:

     1.  CompuServe "A" protocol now works correctly.  Also fixed
         are the long delays that used to occur if a capture file
         was open when a CopuServe transfer was begun.

     2.  The "/N" symbol, which represents a carriage return/line
         feed pair, now works correctly in key strings and
         SENDOUT commands.

     3.  Key strings containing a slash character can now be
         saved and loaded correctly.

     4.  If GLOBAL T is in effect and an XMODEM download is
         aborted to terminal mode because of too many errors or
         timeouts, the system no longer crashes the next time
         terminal mode is exited.

     5.  The TERM command has been made more reliable.  Under
         certain circumstances it could cause a sytem to lock up.

     6.  MEX now signs on as version 1.14C.


     Use MLOAD.COM, available from most RCP/M systems, to install
the patches into MEX.  Assuming that all necessary files are on
the current directory, that you want to keep your original
version, and that you will call the new version MEX114C.COM, the
command would be:
     MLOAD MEX114C=MEX.COM,MEX114FX.HEX

     Questions or comments regarding this patch file should be
addressed to Howard Goldstein at:

     CompuServe:  [71435,1203]

     Newton Centre Z-Node:  617/965-7259

     Ladera Z-Node:  213/670-9465

     Home:  111 Park St.  #10-P, New Haven, CT  06511.  Voice
     Phone:  [phone] (evenings and weekends)

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Date: 31 Dec 88 03:27:43 GMT
From: [e-mail]  (Clarence W. Wilkerson Jr.)
Subject: SIMTEL20.ARPA

Simtel20 is a DEC20 running TOPS20 ???. The directory structure
is a little strange, and binary files have to be transfrred in the
tenex mode to get around the 36 bit word length on Simtel20.
It can be a little slow ( my U of R. connections come out about
500 characters/sec, compared to UR<->Cornell ftp rates of 20-50
kbytes! However, it's a great resource.

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INFO-CPM Digest             Mon,  2 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue   2

Today's Topics:
             Accessing the modem on a C 128 in CP/M mode
                        MEX Plus EXEC function
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Date: 30 Dec 88 18:50:51 GMT
From: ima!cfisun!lakart![e-mail]  (David Goodenough)
Subject: Accessing the modem on a C 128 in CP/M mode

I have a C128, and a CP/M terminal program. I want to configure the
terminal program to talk to the modem (1670) attached to my 128. Does
anyone have ANY ideas at all as to how to do this. The following
are necessary:

MODEM input status  : how can I tell if a character is ready to read
MODEM input        : how do I get a character from the modem once the
              routine above has told me it's ready
MODEM output status : how do I tell if the modem is able to accept
              another character
MODEM output        : how do I give a character to the modem once I know
              it can take one.

I'll take any suggestions at all - If you have MODEM740 or IMP (or MEX
or anything) running I'll take that. I'm looking for any ideas at all.

Other optional things that would be nice are:

BREAK : how do I start and stop a break condition on the modem
DTR   : how do I enable and disable DTR (this is used to hang up the modem)
BAUD  : how do I change the baud rate (1200 / 300 selection will be enough
    or even just 1200 alone)
MODE  : how do I change the communications mode (# data bits, # stop bits
    parity etc.)

Please E-mail me with responses, I'll forward anything I get to anyone that
asks. Also please E-mail to the address below, rather than to where this
article came from.

    Thanks in advance,
--
    [e-mail] - David Goodenough        +---+
                            | +-+-+
    ....... !harvard!xait!lakart!pallio!dg        +-+-+ |
AKA:    [e-mail]                +---+

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Date: Sun, 1 Jan 89 10:29:57 est
From: [e-mail] (Gordon Marwood)
Subject: MEX Plus EXEC function


I have come across a MEXPlus command which does not seem to be documented.
This is the EXEC command.  I wondered whether it was a synonym for READ, but
this is not the case.

Using EXEC by itself produces a response "File not found" and adding a file
and adding a file name (I used a .MEX file) produces the response "File
xxx.COD not found.

Does anyone know what the EXEC function in MEXPlus is for ?

                             Happy New Year!

                                Gordon Marwood

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INFO-CPM Digest             Tue,  3 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue   3

Today's Topics:
                     Turbo Pascal: wanted to buy
                  XINU ported for CP/M-type systems
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Date: 2 Jan 89 06:46:49 GMT
From: [e-mail]  (Michael V. Snyder)
Subject: Turbo Pascal: wanted to buy

Does anyone have a CP/M version of Turbo Pascal that they no longer use?
I am interested in buying outright, with manuals and licencing agreement,
not pirating.  (Borland is one of the Good Sam companies I refuse to
rip off).  No one, including Borland, seems to be selling it anymore,
though, so if you're willing to part with it, you can sort of name
your price.  I will be very grateful.
                    Sincerely,
                    Michael Snyder
                    196 W. 11th Ave. #509
                    Columbus, OH  43210
                    [phone]

______________________________________________________________________________
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| Fine young fellow - stirred up lust, |          Michael V. Snyder          |
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| Years of struggle - Coffin - Dust.   |    "everything you know is wrong"   |
|______________________________________|_____________________________________|
( poem appropriated from rec.humor )

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Date: 2 Jan 89 04:04:29 GMT
From: cwjcc!hal!ncoast![e-mail]  (Mike Squires)
Subject: XINU ported for CP/M-type systems

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Richard Secrist, DEC U.S.) writes:
>
>    Was that true ?  I mean a XINU to run, not that it was ported (sounds

Ed Schramm (sir-alan![e-mail]) ported XINU to CP/M some time
ago.  He tried to post it to Royal Oak, but that did not work for obvious
reasons.  I will make it available for downloading/anonymous uucp access on
my system, plus what I have collected of the UZI files.  Look in either the
"cp-m" download area of the UNaXcess BBS or in /usr/spool/uucppublic/cp-m.
Anonymous uucp login is "uucp", no password; use "bbs" for the BBS.

(XINU availability depends upon Comer releasing it for public access; I have
no idea what the current status of XINU is.)

Mike Squires Allegheny College Meadville, PA 16335 814 332 3347
uucp: ..!cwjcc!ncoast!{mikes,peng!sir-alan!mikes} or ..!pitt!sir-alan!mikes
BITNET: [e-mail] (VAX) MIKES AT SIR-ALAN!PITT.UUCP (IBM)
Internet: sir-alan![e-mail]
BBS: 814 337 3159 (TB+) 814 337 0348 (2400/1200)

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INFO-CPM Digest             Wed,  4 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue   4

Today's Topics:
                        redirection of output
                    Redirection of printer output
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Date: 3 Jan 89 19:59:44 GMT
From: uhccux![e-mail]  (Greg Lee)
Subject: redirection of output

From article <[e-mail]>, by [e-mail] ("Craig Pepmiller"):
" My father works on a Kaypro II and a Kaypro 10.  He is trying to redirect
" output form the serial port (printer) to a disk file.  Is there a CPM
" instruction to do this?  Maybe a small utility?

PIP

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Date: Tue, 03 Jan 89 13:35:57 CST
From: "Craig Pepmiller" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Redirection of printer output

My father works with a Kaypro 10 and a Kaypro II.  He is trying to capture
output that would normally be sent to the printer (serial port) to a disk file.
Can this be done in CPM?  Can anyone tell me the command sequence or utility to
do it?

Thanks,

Craig Pepmiller

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INFO-CPM Digest             Thu,  5 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue   5

Today's Topics:
                   Help Resurrect Royal Oak RCP/M !
                       INFO-CPM Digest V88 #294
                        redirection of output
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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 89 14:41:45 PST
From: [e-mail] (Richard Secrist, DEC U.S.)
Subject: Help Resurrect Royal Oak RCP/M !

    The Royal Oak RCP/M has been an important resource for the
    CP/M community at large as well as those of us who can't
    FTP.  Recently it's hard disk died and there were no funds
    for replacement.  A post office box has been established
    where donations can be sent to help restore and maintain
    this vital CP/M resource:

        RCP/M Royal Oak Support Fund
        P.O. Box 36238
        Detroit, MI  48236

        Checks should be made payable "Keith Petersen".

    Keith is the Co-SysOp of RCP/M Royal Oak and will handle
    the funds since the system doesn't have it's own bank
    account.

    Keith's long-standing and superlative efforts in the CP/M
    community deserve our praise and thanks.  In my opinion
    Royal Oak is the single most important and best RCP/M in
    the country and those of us who share this zeal for things
    CP/M should support his continued efforts at Royal Oak.

    Richard Secrist,
    DEC


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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 89 11:29:09 MST
From: Raymond Carter  STEWS-NR-AD 678-1536 <[e-mail]>
Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V88 #294

I thought I saw in the latest catalog from Central Computer
that they had Turbo-Modula2 for sale.

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Date: 4 Jan 89 14:19:13 GMT
From: [e-mail]  (Clarence W. Wilkerson Jr.)
Subject: redirection of output

I assume the question was to redirect output from an existing
application program for which no source code was available, to
a disk file. If you wanted to capture incomming stuff off the
serial ports, KERMIT might be more convenient than PIP.
CP/M does not treat IO devices the same as files like
UNIX, so one can not easily ( with out hacking your bios,
) capture IO into files. I can imagine a small utility
sitting under CCP capturing calls to RDR or whatever,
and writting a log file. However, many CP/M programs using serial
ports go directly to the hardware, so there is still a
problem. Can you be more specific as to the capability needed?

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INFO-CPM Digest             Fri,  6 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue   6

Today's Topics:
           "The Computer Journal" Subscription Information
                     PC Pursuit pricing amendment
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Date: Wed 05 Jan 1989 12:09:22 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: "The Computer Journal" Subscription Information

There have been a number of requests for more information about
subscriptions to The Computer Journal.  I finally remembered to bring in one
of their flyers.  Here are the subscription rates (a one-year subscription
is six issues):

                  US            Canada                 Foreign
                                                Surface          Air

  1 Year        $16.00          $22.00          $24.00         ($38.00)

  2 Year        $28.00          $42.00

  Back Issues   $ 3.50 ea       $ 3.50 ea       $ 4.75 ea
   six or more  $ 3.00 ea       $ 3.00 ea       $ 4.25 ea

Prices probably could be quoted for the missing columns in the table if
anyone needs the information.  The foreign-air rate is not in the TCJ flyer
but is my recollection of the figure Art Carlson told me ($14 extra for air
mail).

The two-year Canada figure does not seem quite right to me.  If the
surcharge is $6 on a one-year subscription, then a $12 surcharge on two
years would give a figure of $40 (28+12).  Similarly, the two-year foreign
surface subscription would be $44 (28+2*8) and air subscription, $72
(28+2*22).

Checks, VISA, and MasterCard are accepted.  Subscriptions should be sent to:

        The Computer Journal
        190 Sullivan Crossroad
        Columbia Falls, MT 59912 (that's Montana)
        [phone]


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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 89 21:51:52 EST
From: telenet!nessus![e-mail] (System Administrator)
Subject: PC Pursuit pricing amendment

              ADDITIONAL ANNOUNCEMENTS and ANSWERs to COMMON QUESTIONS
                   REGARDING PC PURSUIT PRICE CHANGE ANNOUNCEMENT.


          To ALL PC Pursuit customers:

          There  has  been  an  overwhelming  response  to the recent price
          change announcement/letter  (see related  bulletin).   So much so
          that my  personally responding  to EACH  in a timely manner is an
          impossibility.  However, we  are  reading  all  the  mail.   This
          bulletin  contains  some  related  new  announcements, as well as
          answers to common concerns.

          First, the following announcements:

          1.   WE HAVE DECIDED TO WAIVE THE  LIMITATION OF  ONE ACCOUNT PER
               PERSON.   There is  now NO LIMIT to the number of PC Pursuit
               accounts that  can  be  ordered/owned  by  a  single person.
               Thus, if  you have  determined that  a 60 hour usage cap (or
               90, or  any multiple  of 30  hours) is  more appropriate for
               your typical  usage, you can order the appropriate number of
               accounts.

          2.   In order  to provide  you with  plenty of  time to determine
               what your  requirements are, WE HAVE DECIDED NOT TO BILL YOU
               FOR ANY OVER CAP USAGE UNTIL MAY 1, 1989.  The fixed monthly
               charge will  still increase  to $30  as of February 1, 1989.
               However, you will not be billed for any non-prime time usage
               over 30 hours until the month of May 1989.  Please note that
               the actual statement for  May usage  won't appear  until mid
               June.

          3.   When  we  begin  billing  for  monthly  usage  over 30 hours
               (beginning with May's usage),  WE WILL  SUBTRACT THE AVERAGE
               TIME IT  TAKES TO CONNECT (APPROXIMATELY 1 MINUTE) FROM EACH
               CALL BEFORE ADDING UP THE TIME.  Therefore, you will  not be
               charged for a call to a BUSY line (as long as you disconnect
               the call immediately upon seeing the  "BUSY" message).   The
               exact  amount  of  time  to  be subtracted will be announced
               within the next few weeks.


          Addressing other common concerns:

          1.   Many people are suggesting  that it  is the  30 hour monthly
               usage  cap,  not  the  fixed  monthly increase to $30, which
               concerns  them  the  most.    Because  PC  Pursuit  must  be
               transformed to a profitable service to continue offering it,
               the primary alternative left  was  to  have  a  higher fixed
               monthly  price  with  a  higher  CAP (or a much higher fixed
               price  and  no  CAP).    Raising  the  fixed  monthly charge
               penalizes those  who use  the service  less than  30 hours a
               month (which is statistically the vast majority).  We do not
               believe that  the smaller  volume user  should subsidize the





               more serious  (higher volume)  user.   Thus, we  have the 30
               hour cap, which is appropriate for the new $30 fixed monthly
               charge.  To accommodate higher volume users, we  have waived
               the 1 account per user limitation (see above).

          2.   When over  cap usage  billing begins in May 1989, a detailed
               statement will be mailed to you no less  than 10  days prior
               to your  credit card (or checking) account being debited, if
               your account is to be charged for more  than just  the fixed
               monthly charge.

          3.   The announcement  inadvertently states that all cities *now*
               support all three baud rates.  The target was to provide all
               baud  rates   to  all   cities  by  the  end  of  the  year.
               Unfortunately,  some  cities  have  had  deployment  delays.
               Latest  schedules  target  the  end  of  January to complete
               deployment.

          4.   Some customers were sent terms and  conditions that (through
               a typesetting  error) do not include paragraph 7(d) -- which
               is clearly missing since these copies show 7(c)  followed by
               7(e).    Unfortunately,  7(d)  states  our policy of 30 days
               notice for prices changes (or  other  changes).    Some have
               concluded  that  since  their  copy  of  the  Ts & Cs do not
               include this paragraph,  that  Telenet  can  not  change the
               pricing for  them.   I truly  apologize to those who have an
               erroneous   copy.      However,   the   law   clearly   (and
               appropriately)  provides  for  any  business  to  be able to
               change its pricing structure, and/or service offering in any
               way with  reasonable notice.  The Ts & Cs simply clarify our
               implementation  of  "reasonable  notice".    Lack   of  this
               paragraph does not remove the basic business right to change
               pricing (or other changes) with reasonable notice.

          Everyone here at Telenet wants to work with  our customers.   The
          announcements provided  here are  to accommodate  the concerns of
          many of you, and are a direct result of input received from you.

          I urge each of you to  take  advantage  of  the  next  few months
          (before  MAY)  to  determine  what  your  typical  monthly  usage
          actually is.  Our statistics clearly show that most of you should
          not be  effected by the 30 hour usage cap.  If you find that your
          usage is higher,  you  now  have  the  option  to  order multiple
          accounts (blocks  of 30  hours per month) before over cap billing
          begins in May.

                                        Sincerely,

                                        Peter Naleszkiewicz
                                        Outdial Services Product Manager


--
    Dave Purks
    PC Pursuit Technical Coordinator
    Telenet Communications Corp
    ..!uunet!telenet!dpurks

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INFO-CPM Digest             Fri,  6 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue   7

Today's Topics:
                         Balcones <-> Xerox ?
                          PCPI CP/M drivers
                         Real estate software
                            Turbo Modula 2
                            Where are you?
                           Xerox 16/8 BIOS
                     Zcpr & HLLs - Summary (long)
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Date: 6 Jan 89 04:54:24 GMT
From: eve.usc.edu![e-mail]  (Mitch Mlinar)
Subject: Balcones <-> Xerox ?

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ted Nolan) writes:
>
>Ok.. How do you use the slot to get extra bankable memory for CPM?
>

The extra slot can has all the Z-80 address lines as well as telling whether
it is in the ROM/video bank or in RAM.  There is also a nice 32k hole from
4000-BFFF in which to drop a RAM chip (or chips if you have bank selection
located there).

Of course, you have to have an operating system that can use it.

-Mitch

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Date: 5 Jan 89 21:23:51 GMT
From: uop![e-mail]  (Nick Sayer)
Subject: PCPI CP/M drivers

Hello again. I'm kludging my ProDOS hard disk driver to work
with removable floppies and wonder if anyone can help me out in
coming up with the proper data tables for it. My trouble is that
I haven't worked with a removable device before, and don't know
how big (in relation to the size of the directory) to make the
"directory check vector." Any hints from netland? Thanks in
advance.

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Nick Sayer | Packet Radio: N6QQQ @ W6FGC-2 | Fido: 161/31
uucp: ...!sdcsvax!ucbvax!ucdavis!uop!mrapple
Disclaimer: "The BBC would like to appologize for that last announcement."
cat flames > /dev/null

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Date: 5 Jan 89 23:10:06 GMT
From: aramis.rutgers.edu!porthos.rutgers.edu![e-mail]  (Gadi )
Subject: Real estate software

Does anyone know of any real estate management softare?
I need something that runs under Apple IIe DOS/PRODOS or
CP/M (PCPI Starcard)

                                 Gadi
--


uucp:   {ames,att,harvard,ucbvax,iuvax}!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!friedman
arpa:   [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 6 Jan 89 11:06:11 MST
From: Raymond Carter  STEWS-NR-AD 678-1536 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Turbo Modula 2

In reference to several questions about availability of Turbo
Modula 2, I submit the following information.

In the latest catalog from Central Computer Products (vol VI, no 2)
on page 13 they list CP/M Turbo Modula 2 for sale for $69.
Their order line is 1-800-456-4123.

If anyone actually orders it, we might be interested in their
response, support, etc.

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Date: 4 Jan 89 16:02:07 GMT
From: ima!cfisun!lakart![e-mail]  (David Goodenough)
Subject: Where are you?

About three weeks ago I announced that a terminal program was available.
I have had two requests where my mailing address has not worked. These
are the addresses I am using:

xait!harvard!uwvax!astroatc!nicmad!rat
xait!garp!ames!mimsy!uunet!mcvax!cernvax!ethz!lavi!wlye

If you requested QTERM, and you think either of these is you, please
get back to me so I can get a copy through to you.
--
    [e-mail] - David Goodenough        +---+
                            | +-+-+
    ....... !harvard!xait!lakart!dg            +-+-+ |
AKA:    [e-mail]                +---+

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Date: 6 Jan 89 04:51:50 GMT
From: eve.usc.edu![e-mail]  (Mitch Mlinar)
Subject: Xerox 16/8 BIOS

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ted Nolan) writes:
>
>Any information anyone has on the 8/16 would be welcome.  I've got one,
>but no sofware for the silly thing.  I didn't follow the install
>instructions for CPM, I looked at the hard disk BEFORE reiniting it, and
>there was a lot of stuff there for factory use, including a demo that
>played music, so I know there's sound somewhere, but I can't find it in
>the Xerox manuals.  I know there's direct screen access too, I can get it

The Xerox manuals (generic ones) are awful.  You need the full up software
development guide(s).  Rather than bore everyone with all the details of
Xerox operation, I suggest you call my bulletin board: [phone].  I
hardly get on there much myself (way too busy), but it is dedicated to 8-bit
CP/M (QP/M) stuff and has a strong Xerox group.  I remember several messages
I glossed over in just the past month about 820-II (16/8) manuals; did not
really read them, though...

-Mitch

P.S.  If you don't have a means for getting on, leave me e-mail and I will
scare up something.  However, I am not quick with responses these days.

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Date: 5 Jan 89 11:26:17 GMT
From: imagen!atari!portal!cup.portal.com![e-mail]  (David O Goodman)
Subject: Zcpr & HLLs - Summary (long)

Recently, in article <[e-mail]>, I inquired:
> Does anyone have suggestions for a graceful way in which to pass the
> address of a ZCPR 3.x environment descriptor to a program written in a
> high level language, so that the program can make use of the various ZCPR
> facilities?  Specifically, rather than hard-wiring the environment
> descriptor address into the program, thus making it non-portable, what
> would be a good way for a utility written in bds-c to learn the
> environment descriptor address?
> ...
> Any ideas, suggestions, or further discussion would be appreciated.  If I
> receive mail on this subject, I will summarize to the net.

Most of the comments received were public postings, so  I won't quote them
extensively.

Apparently, according to the collective wisdom of the net, there is no
formal mechanism for passing a pointer to the environment descriptor (ENV)
to a program written in an HLL.  Should such a mechanism exist?  More on
that latter.

Several different approaches were mentioned, some of which were generally
applicable to any language, and some of which were peculiar to bds-c.


I. Find the environment descriptor by searching memory for the identifying
string 'Z3ENV'.

  Marc Wilson ([e-mail]) in <[e-mail]> wrote:
  >      The *easiest* way is to code a loop that begins at the top of memory
  > and scans downwards for the string "Z3ENV".  As long as you're between the
  > BIOS and the top of memory, the only place that that string should appear
  > is at address ENV+3.  That'll give you the environment address.
  >
  >      Note that this technique is *extremely* dangerous on any system that
  > supports memory-mapped I/O ( i.e. Apple CP/M ), for obvious reasons.

  Both Jay Sage ([e-mail]) and Bridger Mitchell ([e-mail])
  pointed out that a simple memory search is not sufficient, since 'Z3ENV'
  could exist at other locations than the ENV, (named directory buffer,
  disk i/o buffers, etc).  They mentioned that if this technique is used,
  a check should be made to be sure the ENV address indicated by the
  search agrees with the self-contained address at ENV+1Bh.

  I used this technique several years ago for a few programs, but finally
  rejected it because it is not bulletproof.  As Marc Wilson mentioned,
  the search can produce very interesting results on any system with
  memory mapped i/o; that alone seems sufficient reason to reject it for
  any program meant for general distribution.


II. Write a module, perhaps ASM or a C structure, which mimics the z3env
header, then jumps to the runtime package entry point; link this module in
at the correct address.

  Several good folks from whom I received mail suggested this approach.
  The catch, of course, is linking such a module at the correct address.
  I don't see that one has that option.  I'm no authority on HLLs as run
  under cp/m, but since the final binary must start execution at 100h,
  would not a designer place the runtime package/initialization code at
  that address?


III. Compile and link in the usual way; hand patch the final binary by
moving the first few bytes (where the Z3 header goes) to the end of the
file, together with a mover routine.  Patch a Z3 header in the space thus
left at the beginning.  At run time, pick up the ENV pointer from the
header, store it at some fixed location, move the first few bytes back to
the beginning of the file, and jump to the beginning.

  This ingenious idea came from Bridger Mitchell ([e-mail]).
  It is certainly generally applicable, not only to bds-c, but to any .COM
  file.  The only negative is the rather kludgy way in which the final
  binary must be put together, but even that could be automated, as
  Bridger points out, with a ZEX script.


IV. Incorporate a Z3 header in CCC.ASM, the source code for the bds-c
runtime package.  Assemble to a customized runtime package (C.CCC) to be
used with ZCPR.

  Andrew Scott Beals ([e-mail]) in <[e-mail]> wrote:
  > Have my eyes been deceiving me?
  >
  > Everyone who owns a [legal] copy of BDS C knows that you get the source to
  > "C.CCC", which is the run-time header that gets prepended to all .COM
  > programs.  The solution is to simply take Bridger's code (jmp 10bh ! db
  > 'ZENV3',1 ! dw 0) and put it at the head of the source to C.CCC ...

  No, Andy, your eyes haven't been deceiving you!  And yes, I own a legal
  copy of bds-c!

  Andy's suggestion makes a lot of sense, though it is applicable to bds-c
  only, and is not a general solution to the problem of Zcpr/HLLs.  It was
  also my first tentative solution to the problem, before posting my
  inquiry.  It can perhaps be done, but it is not quite as simple as Andy
  suggests, and has a few disadvantages.

  According to the documentation (I haven't actually tried this, yet), and
  without going into excessive detail, that part of the standard library
  which is written in C would have to be recompiled, using a new standard
  header which accorded with the new C.CCC.  That part of the library
  written in assembly language would have to be reassembled, as most such
  functions reference absolute addresses in the runtime package.  So, now
  we have a second, non-standard set of libraries and a second,
  non-standard runtime package, different files with identical names, and
  we must remember to get the right pieces of the right package when we
  put it all together at 4:00 AM!

  Also, the linker (CLINK) plugs certain information into absolute
  addresses in C.CCC.  This can be worked around by using various linker
  options; unfortunately using those options deprives us of the
  possibility of using the -n (no warm boot) option, which allows the
  application to simply 'return' rather than warm booting.

  Nevertheless, this could work for bds-c.


Without getting into a debate on the side-issue of assembly language vs
high-level language programming for cp/m, a few thoughts come to mind.

Cp/m has come a long way since plain vanilla cp/m 2.2, and offers many
more advanced facilities.  The environment descriptor is fundamental to
making use of these facilities.  If we were designing the operating system
from scratch, no doubt the environment descriptor address would be
available from a system call.

This could not be done when we had only the Digital Research bdos.  Now,
however, we have a whole new generation of bdos replacements being used in
our 'Z' systems.  Would it not be appropriate to consider incorporating a
system call which returns a pointer to ENV in these new bdos's?

--

Dave Goodman
[e-mail]
...sun!portal!cup.portal.com!dgee

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Date: Sat,  7 Jan 89 01:30:42 MST
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #8
To: [e-mail]

INFO-CPM Digest             Sat,  7 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue   8

Today's Topics:
                         Balcones <-> Xerox ?
                  Redirecting printer output to file
                    redirection of output (2 msgs)
                Redirection of printer output (3 msgs)
                           Xerox 16/8 BIOS
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 5 Jan 89 04:04:53 GMT
From: joyce!aaifs![e-mail]  (Ted Nolan)
Subject: Balcones <-> Xerox ?

Ok.. How do you use the slot to get extra bankable memory for CPM?

                Ted Nolan
                [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 06 Jan 89 18:22:08 PST
From: Bridger Mitchell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Redirecting printer output to file

When a large quantity of output is to be redirected, utilities that
rely on an in-memory buffer are inadequate.

BackGrounder ii includes a print spooling command that will redirect
output of any number of successive programs, limited only by the
capacity of the disk to hold the output file.  The companion "Q"
utility prints files from a queue as a true background process, i.e.
while you are running other programs.  The spooling features were
reviewed in Profiles, May 1988.

--bridger mitchell

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Date: 4 Jan 89 15:35:58 GMT
From: ima!cfisun!lakart![e-mail]  (David Goodenough)
Subject: redirection of output

From article <[e-mail]>, by [e-mail] (Greg Lee):
> From article <[e-mail]>, by [e-mail] ("Craig Pepmiller"):
> " My father works on a Kaypro II and a Kaypro 10.  He is trying to redirect
> " output form the serial port (printer) to a disk file.  Is there a CPM
> " instruction to do this?  Maybe a small utility?
>
> PIP

Not quite. I think what is required is PIP FILE.XYZ = LST: I have a TSR
that catches console output, and it should be trivial to modify it to
catch LST: output.
--
    [e-mail] - David Goodenough        +---+
                            | +-+-+
    ....... !harvard!xait!lakart!dg            +-+-+ |
AKA:    [e-mail]                +---+

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Date: 5 Jan 89 10:20:47 GMT
From: uhccux![e-mail]  (Greg Lee)
Subject: redirection of output

From article <[e-mail]>, by [e-mail] (William Swan):
" >" My father works on a Kaypro II and a Kaypro 10.  He is trying to redirect
" >" output form the serial port (printer) to a disk file.  Is there a CPM
" >" instruction to do this?  Maybe a small utility?
" >
" >PIP
"
" Actually, no. What is needed is some form of i/o capture utility. I believe

I was a little terse -- I couldn't remember anything more than that I
had used PIP for this on the Kaypro II.  Now it's coming back to me.  A
terminal program with a capture-text-in-file mode should work.  But you
can use PIP if you're desperate.  You have to modify PIP with DDT by
inserting a few assembler instructions to read the port.  This is a
supported hack -- there's a little room left in PIP for this very
purpose.  As I recall, there is ascii text in the PIP code saying where
the right place is.
            Greg, [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 5 Jan 89 16:00:14 GMT
From: uhccux![e-mail]  (Greg Lee)
Subject: Redirection of printer output

From article <[e-mail]>, by [e-mail] (Andrew Klossner):
" ...
" [The contributor who suggested PIP has apparently confused
" printer->disk with disk->printer.]

Well, there is some confusion, anyhow.  I thought the original posting
concerned redirecting stuff coming from the serial port.  If it was
stuff going to the serial port instead, what I said about PIP is
not relevant.  By the way, the Unix-like shell that was once marketed
by New Directions allows this other type of redirection, also.  It's
a real nice program.
            Greg, [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 6 Jan 89 17:56:40 GMT
From: tikal!sigma![e-mail]  (William Swan)
Subject: Redirection of printer output

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Rusty) writes:
>>My father works with a Kaypro 10 and a Kaypro II.  He is trying to capture
>>output that would normally be sent to the printer serial port to a disk file.
>
>I seem to recall someone posting or commmenting about a program that would
>do what Craig is asking for, but it MAY have been for IBM-PC style systems
>(sorry).  Was there such a posting HERE, or was I dreaming?  Can anyone
>REALLY help craig?

It was here.

There was a program (called IOCAP) I saw some time ago that captured console
I/O and shunted it to a file. It was out of the CPMUG disks. I just took a
look through a printout of the SIMTEL20 archives, and found:
    kaypro/iocapkp.lbr
which might be the same thing. Unfortunately, my tape of the archives is at
another site and I don't have access to it (Jon, could you e-mail me a copy
of said .LBR file if convenient?), so I can't verify that it is this same
program.

If it is, it shouldn't be difficult to modify to capture printer output
instead - as long as the utility in question uses the LST: (PRN:?) device
and not direct port i/o.

I've thought such a utility would be handy at times.


--
William Swan    ..!tikal.Teltone.COM!sigma!bill

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Date: 4 Jan 89 21:41:44 GMT
From: cadnetix.COM!cadnetix![e-mail]  (Rusty)
Subject: Redirection of printer output

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] ("Craig Pepmiller") writes:
>My father works with a Kaypro 10 and a Kaypro II.  He is trying to capture
>output that would normally be sent to the printer (serial port) to a disk file.
>Can this be done in CPM?  Can anyone tell me the command sequence or utility to
>do it?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Craig Pepmiller

The suggestions I have seen so far don't hack it.  PIP will redirect INPUT,
maybe (on a lucky day, anyway), but he wants to redirect OUTPUT.

I suppose he could hook his K10 up to his KII and use a terminal program
on the recieving Kaypro to capture the data.

I seem to recall someone posting or commmenting about a program that would
do what Craig is asking for, but it MAY have been for IBM-PC style systems
(sorry).  Was there such a posting HERE, or was I dreaming?  Can anyone
REALLY help craig?

-----
Rusty Carruth  UUCP:{uunet,boulder}!cadnetix!rusty  DOMAIN: [e-mail]
Cadnetix Corp. [phone]x681 \  5775 Flatiron Pkwy. \ Boulder, Co 80301
Radio: N7IKQ    'home': P.O.B. 461 \  Lafayette, CO 80026

------------------------------

Date: 5 Jan 89 03:58:03 GMT
From: joyce!aaifs![e-mail]  (Ted Nolan)
Subject: Xerox 16/8 BIOS

Any information anyone has on the 8/16 would be welcome.  I've got one,
but no sofware for the silly thing.  I didn't follow the install
instructions for CPM, I looked at the hard disk BEFORE reiniting it, and
there was a lot of stuff there for factory use, including a demo that
played music, so I know there's sound somewhere, but I can't find it in
the Xerox manuals.  I know there's direct screen access too, I can get it
from the monitor level, but not from CPM, so I can't make VDO work.  As
I say, any info or software would be nice!

                    Ted Nolan
                [e-mail]
                [e-mail]


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INFO-CPM Digest             Sun,  8 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue   9

Today's Topics:
                     RCP/M Royal Oak Support Fund
                        redirection of output
                    Redirection of printer output
                 Whatever happend to Turbo-Modula-2?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 5 Jan 89 00:27:34 GMT
From: [e-mail]  (Ted Medin)
Subject: RCP/M Royal Oak Support Fund

 Ok this is the address for Royal Oak, lets send a check of any size
to get Keith's hard disk back on the air.

 RCP/M Royal Oak Support Fund
 Box 36238
 Detroit MI 48236

Make the check payable to Keith Petersen. After all the good he's done
we can trust him with this. Thanks Keith.

------------------------------

Date: 4 Jan 89 18:34:22 GMT
From: tikal!sigma![e-mail]  (William Swan)
Subject: redirection of output

>" My father works on a Kaypro II and a Kaypro 10.  He is trying to redirect
>" output form the serial port (printer) to a disk file.  Is there a CPM
>" instruction to do this?  Maybe a small utility?
>
>PIP

Actually, no. What is needed is some form of i/o capture utility. I believe
there is one somewher in the CP/MUG archives that could be modified to do
this (called, I believe, IOCAP), but I don't know of a utility to do this.

PIP will copy a file to the printer port, but it won't divert printer output.

--
William Swan    ..!tikal.Teltone.COM!sigma!bill

------------------------------

Date: 5 Jan 89 01:55:53 GMT
From: tektronix!tekecs!frip![e-mail]  (Andrew Klossner)
Subject: Redirection of printer output

    "My father works with a Kaypro 10 and a Kaypro II.  He is
    trying to capture output that would normally be sent to the
    printer (serial port) to a disk file.  Can this be done in CPM?
    Can anyone tell me the command sequence or utility to do it?"

There is no standard way to do this.  It wouldn't be hard to write a
utility to do it; the utility would shuffle itself to high memory and
load the application (like DDT), capture the BDOS "print character"
vector, and buffer and write a disk file.

[The contributor who suggested PIP has apparently confused
printer->disk with disk->printer.]

  -=- Andrew Klossner   (uunet!tektronix!hammer!frip!andrew)    [UUCP]
                        ([e-mail])  [ARPA]

------------------------------

Date: 4 Jan 89 21:37:15 GMT
From: ea.ecn.purdue.edu![e-mail]  (Jeffrey J Wieland)
Subject: Whatever happend to Turbo-Modula-2?

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Raymond Carter  STEWS-NR-AD 678-1536) writes:
>I thought I saw in the latest catalog from Central Computer
>that they had Turbo-Modula2 for sale.

In the latest one I have, its listed in the index (along with CP/M Turbo Pascal)
but it isn't on the pages listed.  I too am interested in the fate of TM2.  I've
been using it develop some graphics modules for the MicroSphere graphics board
that I have in my Kaypro 2X.  I is noticeably faster than Turbo Pascal for
this.  The bit and cardinal operations seem to be particularly fast.  I got
my copy second hand; Echelon had my still uncashed check when they folded.

                Jeff Wieland
                [e-mail]

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INFO-CPM Digest             Tue, 10 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue  10

Today's Topics:
                               Tape Lib
                            Turbo Modula 2
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 9 Jan 89 15:53:43 GMT
From: rochester!kodak!ektools![e-mail]  (Richard W. Lourette)
Subject: Tape Lib

    I am looking for a DBaseII application that will manage the ser-
    mon tape library for our church.  The application would be
    required to print labels of specific selections on demand as well
    as manage the selections on file.  Any information on a this or a
    similar application would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in
    advance...

                Rich Lourette
                ( ..rochester!kodak!ektools!rwl )

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Date: 9 Jan 89 13:19:53 GMT
From: ea.ecn.purdue.edu![e-mail]  (Jeffrey J Wieland)
Subject: Turbo Modula 2

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Raymond Carter  STEWS-NR-AD 678-1536) writes:
>In reference to several questions about availability of Turbo
>Modula 2, I submit the following information.
>If anyone actually orders it, we might be interested in their
>response, support, etc.

I called Central Computer last week about TM2.  They said that it is not
available now; however, they expect to have it for sale sometime in
February.  They could not tell me who the vendor is (or will be).

                Jeff Wieland
                [e-mail]

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INFO-CPM Digest             Wed, 11 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue  11

Today's Topics:
                   CP/M Wordstar 4.0 with a Wyse50
                          Qterm and Cpm 3.0
                            ZCPR and HLLs
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 10 Jan 89 12:50:03 GMT
From: emcard!stiatl![e-mail]  (Todd Merriman)
Subject: CP/M Wordstar 4.0 with a Wyse50

Has anyone patched Wordstar 4.0 (CP/M) for a Wyse50?  The installattion that
comes with WS doesn't work!  Please send me the patch(es).

------------------------------

Date: 11 Jan 89 00:18:01 GMT
From: [e-mail]  (Simon Gales)
Subject: Qterm and Cpm 3.0

I'm trying to patch Qterm to work on c128 in cp/m mode.  I'm using the
standard auxillary status/io bdos calls.  I have used DEVICE and CONF to
set the AUX device to 1200 baud (rs232).

When I fire up Qterm, everything works fine until I type somthing to the
modem - I can get the help menu, etc, but typing 'AT' locks the system.

Are these bdos cals set up properly in commodore's version of cp/m+?

--
/--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
  Simon Gales@University of Ky         UUCP:   {rutgers, uunet}!ukma!simon
  (- Insert Virus Code Here -)         Arpa:   [e-mail]
  MaBell: [phone]/257-3597      BitNet: [e-mail]

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Date: Mon 10 Jan 1989 14:57:44 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: ZCPR and HLLs

   There is one comment about gaining access to Z-System facilities with
programs written in high level languages that I neglected to make earlier.
There is, in a weak sense, an operating system call that returns the ENV
address.  The ZCPR command processor since version 3.3 has placed the
environment address in the HL register on entry to a program.  If the high
level language allows the user to gain control before some initialization
package loses the information in HL, then this can be used (but, as always,
should be validated before it is trusted).  This is essentially a
modification of Bridger's patch suggestion or the suggestion of recoding
C.CCC.  It is much easier just to save the contents of HL than it is to
create the whole Z header as Bridger described.  Such a program, however,
will fail with versions of ZCPR before 3.3.  BackGrounder ii has supported
this facility from the beginning, however, and will work fine.

   Having a real DOS call is a very interesting idea.  Perhaps the DOS
version function call could return the ENV address as well.  The problem is
that the new DOSs may already be absolutely full, with no spare bytes for
this.  But it is certainly a suggestion worth passing along to the authors.
Also, if you are using one of the public-domain DOSs (Z80DOS, P2DOS,
NOVADOS), then you can try putting it in yourself.

   Another possibility is to load an RSX that would provide this extended
service.  The roughly 2K memory cost might, however, be too much to pay.  It
might be an interesting and easy way to experiment, however.

-- Jay


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INFO-CPM Digest             Thu, 12 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue  12

Today's Topics:
                         Need Wunderbuss info
                        PCPI Technical Support
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 11 Jan 89 20:40:22 GMT
From: hamal.usc.edu![e-mail]  (Dick Mead)
Subject: Need Wunderbuss info

    I was recently given a Morrow Wunderbuss WB14 Rev.1 Wunder Bus I/O
S100 motherboard, less any docs..If anyone has any technical docs, or any
docs at all, I would gladly pay for duplication. Thanks.

 Dick Mead  <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: 11 Jan 89 06:52:47 GMT
From: astroatc!nicmad!madnix![e-mail]  (David Douthitt)
Subject: PCPI Technical Support

Do any of you kind souls out there have technical details on the PCPI
CP/M card?

I'm mostly interested in 1. How to write drivers and 2. How to access the
Apple and get the 6502 to operate and whatever.  Also any data on the
PCPI Memory map and BIOS format or source would be nice.

I thank you much.  By the way, if you are just plain interested in the
PCPI card or in anything I find out, drop a line.  We should start
setting up some sort of an informal network of PCPI users.

          --- david

--
:::: David Douthitt :::: Madison, WI :::: The Stainless Steel Rat ::::
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To: [e-mail]

INFO-CPM Digest             Fri, 13 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue  13

Today's Topics:
                               Amstrad
                         The Computer Journal
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Thu, 12 Jan 89 11:16:30 MST
From: Raymond Carter  STEWS-NR-AD 678-1536 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Amstrad

I see the Amstrad 9512 (CP/M+) system advertised in Computer Shopper
for what looks like a fairly good price.
This brings to mind two questions I was wondering if someone could
answer:

1.  How much data can be stored on each of the 3-inch disks.

2.  Has anyone sucessfully transplanted 3.5-inch disks, or added one
to the system?  (3.5's are a whole lot more readily available,
and a bunch cheaper, too.)

Thanks for any responses!!

------------------------------

Date: Wed 12 Jan 1989 16:20:09 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: The Computer Journal

I received the following query from someone whose return address was
not accepted by my mailer.

>> Is the computer journal a CP/M-80 magazine?  A hardware hackers
>> magazine?

TCJ does not focus exclusively on CP/M-80, but it has a very strong
interest in that direction.  It is one of the few remaining magazines
with a hobbyist orientation.  I have a regular column on Z-System
(an advanced CP/M replacement operating system), and Bridger Mitchell
has a regular column on topics in advanced CP/M (things like file
structures, subtleties of the DOS and BIOS, and so on).  Rick Charnes
will now be contributing regularly.  His articles will deal with uses
of Z-System and DateStamping, among other things.

-- Jay Sage


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INFO-CPM Digest             Sat, 14 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue  14

Today's Topics:
                       Conversion Oki 82 -> 92
                       Redirection(s) -> conix
                            ZCPR and HLLs
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Jan 89 09:49:17 EST
From: Jerry Glomph Black <@ll-vlsi.arpa:black@ll-micro>
Subject: Conversion Oki 82 -> 92

I remember a company (Rainbow Tech.?) made a small kludge board to turn the
generally uncapable Okidata 82 printer ('draft mode' text only) into a model
92 (has not-so-NLQ, and bit-mapped graphics).  I haven't seen it advertised
for a quite a while, but there must be some out there, somewhere. Anyone know
where I could get one?

Jerry Black (black@[e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: 13 Jan 89 05:16:55 GMT
From: joyce!aaifs![e-mail]  (Ted Nolan)
Subject: Redirection(s) -> conix

Computer Helper Industries Inc makes a CPM add-on/replacement called
CONIX that does redirection.  You can redirect console input and output
as well as printer output.  You also get pipes, a fairly sophisticated
batch file language, named or tree directories, utilities and online
manuals.  I haven't taken the time to get it up on my 8/16, but it
ran pretty well on my 820-II before my hard disk went read-only.
The complete package is about $70, and shareware versions start at
$20

I have no connection with CHI except as a customer, etc etc.  Here's the
address:

    Computer Helper Industries Inc
    PO Box 680
    Parkchester Station, NY 10462
    [phone]

                    Ted Nolan
                [e-mail]
                [e-mail]

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Date: 12 Jan 89 23:39:54 GMT
From: portal!cup.portal.com![e-mail]  (David O Goodman)
Subject: ZCPR and HLLs

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:

> There is, in a weak sense, an operating system call that returns the ENV
> address.  The ZCPR command processor since version 3.3 has placed the
> environment address in the HL register on entry to a program.  If the high
> level language allows the user to gain control before some initialization
> package loses the information in HL, then this can be used (but, as always,
> should be validated before it is trusted).  ...

The problem, or course, is that the IF ("if the high level language..."),
is a very big IF indeed!  It seems to me that most HLLs running
under cp/m must, of necessity, have the entry to their initialization
routines at 100h, where they will execute before any routine the
programmer provides.

>   Having a real DOS call is a very interesting idea.  Perhaps the DOS
> version function call could return the ENV address as well.  The problem is
> that the new DOSs may already be absolutely full, with no spare bytes for
> this.  But it is certainly a suggestion worth passing along to the authors.

The suggestion was a system call which would return the ENV address.  It
seems to me that this would provide a standardized way for any program,
ASM or HLL, to obtain the information.  Presumably, the present system
would also have to be maintained for backward compatibility.

But the present system is really, with all due respect to Jay, a kludge,
albeit an ingenious one.  When ZCPR 3.0 was written, the Cp/m world was
stuck with the Digital Research bdos, so another way had to found to
transfer the ENV address to a transient program.  Z3INS was the answer;
and under ZCPR 3.3/3.4 Jay ingeniously converted the original installation
system to an auto-install system.

Now, however, we have alternatives to the Digital Research bdos, and one
or the other of these alternatives are probably going to be used on most
up to date systems.  We expect to be able use calls such as #27 (return
ALLOC address), #31 (return DPB address); what is conceptually different
about call #nn (return ENV address)?

--

Dave Goodman
[e-mail]
...sun!portal!cup.portal.com!dgee

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Date: Sun, 15 Jan 89 01:30:51 MST
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #15
To: [e-mail]

INFO-CPM Digest             Sun, 15 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue  15

Today's Topics:
                    bondwell model-2 laptop owners
                     CP/M for the TRS80 Model II
               Radio Schlock TRS-80 Model II hard drive
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 13 Jan 89 18:02:52 GMT
From: mcvax!cernvax!ethz!solaris![e-mail]  (Mitchell Wyle)
Subject: bondwell model-2 laptop owners

I am looking for other owners of the bondwell model-2 laptop
to swap ideas, war stories, and software via e-mail.

I would also appreciate pointers to vendors who sell h/w or s/w for the
bondwell model-2.    Thanks.
--
-Mitchell F. Wyle                         [e-mail]
Institut fuer Informationsysteme          [e-mail]
ETH Zentrum / 8092 Zurich, Switzerland    [phone]

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Date: 13 Jan 89 19:29:01 GMT
From: att!alberta!auvax![e-mail]  (Richard Loken)
Subject: CP/M for the TRS80 Model II

Cheap computing is now available to YOU the consumer!

I was feeling flush this week so I bought a copy of P&T CP/M for my Model II
(to replace an old pirated copy of Lifeboat CP/M).

TriSoft in Texas is selling P&T CP/M with complete documentation and a visual
editor and DSDD capability for US$85.00.  An upgrade of an old legal copy of
CP/M is even cheaper.

If you have considered using CP/M instead of TRSDOS or upgrading an old version
or going legal this is the time to do it.

But thats not all!!

Micropro is selling CP/M Wordstar Version 4 for US$89.00 as well so I bought a
copy to replace my copy of version 2.x.

It is very hard to find a good reason to buy a new computer.

     *********        73
    **********        Richard Loken VE6BSV
   .      ****
  ..      ****        Athabasca University
 ....     ****        Athabasca, Alberta Canada
..........****        alberta!auvax

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Date: 13 Jan 89 19:39:38 GMT
From: att!alberta!auvax![e-mail]  (Richard Loken)
Subject: Radio Schlock TRS-80 Model II hard drive

Now that I have four eight inch drives running on my Model II I thought it would
be kind of nice to run a hard disc and maybe two floppies (oh heck run four).

At one time Radio Schlock sold a 15M hard drive for the price of a used Volvo
which from the pictures seems to be the size of a VW Microbus.

Questions.

What were these drives and how common are they?

Have any of you put a hard disc of any form on a Model II and what did you
learn from it?

How easy is it to make the hard disc bootable?  Have you found a way to boot
the hard disc with elegance, say so that if a floppy is in drive 0 then you
boot from drive 0?

Am I being really ignorant?

     *********        73
    **********        Richard Loken VE6BSV
   .      ****
  ..      ****        Athabasca University
 ....     ****        Athabasca, Alberta Canada
..........****        alberta!auvax

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Date: Mon, 16 Jan 89 01:30:15 MST
From: [e-mail]
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #16
To: [e-mail]

INFO-CPM Digest             Mon, 16 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue  16

Today's Topics:
           Capturing console/printer output to a disk file.
                    Redirection of printer output
                      TRS-80 Model-II hard disks
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Date: Mon, 16 Jan 89 07:58:35 IST
From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Capturing console/printer output to a disk file.

Strangely enough, nobody has yet quoted that CP/M 3 (alias CP/M + ) does it,
built in! (and an RSX hack could do it, if it wasn't there anyway).

So the next question will be, where to find CP/M 3 for those Kaypros, I guess.

                                                   Jacques J. Goldberg
                                                   Happy LOBO+CP/M-3 owner.

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Date: 16 Jan 89 05:52:51 GMT
From: [e-mail]  (Mike Morris)
Subject: Redirection of printer output

In article <> [e-mail] (Andrew Klossner) writes:
>
>    "My father works with a Kaypro 10 and a Kaypro II.  He is
>    trying to capture output that would normally be sent to the
>    printer (serial port) to a disk file.  Can this be done in CPM?
>    Can anyone tell me the command sequence or utility to do it?"
>
>There is no standard way to do this.  It wouldn't be hard to write a
>utility to do it; the utility would shuffle itself to high memory and
>load the application (like DDT), capture the BDOS "print character"
>vector, and buffer and write a disk file.
>
>[The contributor who suggested PIP has apparently confused
>printer->disk with disk->printer.]
>
>  -=- Andrew Klossner   (uunet!tektronix!hammer!frip!andrew)    [UUCP]
>                        ([e-mail])  [ARPA]

On the chance that he is having to repeat my efforts with wordstar, I had
to write a serial printer driver for Wordstar 3.01 years ago...  If he needs
it (to crib code from if nothing else) I'll be happy to send it to him.
It sits in the patch space, and opens a file and then procedds to dump all
printer output to it.  When the printer is done, the file is closed, all
neat and pretty.  One of the projects on the stack is to hack my BIOS to
implement another redirection target (UL1: or something) to be a modification
of that old patch - to some file like OUT.OUT, which would then be renamed.

Or something.

Lastly, one kludge that I used one time was a serial print buffer, with the
output stalled with a ^S.  I dumped the file into it, then ran the
modem program, after it was up I started the capture function, swapped
ports on the buffer, and a ^Q sucked the file in.  It worked, but it took
a couple of tries and a breakout box to do it.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
#Include disclaimer.standard
#Include quote.cute

The opinions above probably do not even come close to those of my employer(s).

US Snail: ...............UUCP: .........................Also:
   Mike Morris [e-mail]  ..... WA6ILQ
   P.O. Box 1130
   Arcadia, Ca. 91006-1130

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Date: Sun, 15 Jan 89 16:27:59 CST
From: [e-mail] (Margaret H. Knox)
Subject: TRS-80 Model-II hard disks

Richard,

  To answer some of your questions:

There are a number of sources for new/used hard disks for the Model-II,
-12,-16, and -6000.  Pacific Exchange sells them, as does Kilgore's
Electronics (Ft. Worth, TX).  Computer Shopper also has ads, both
display and classified, from folks with drives to sell.  There is now
everything from 8.7 mbyte drives up to 70 mbyte (and I know some
folks using the 12 Mbyte controllerr with a 330 mbyte drive).

Most of the machines will boot directly from the hard disk (if
available, and with the boot track software written).  Some of the
older Model-II's did not come with the boot rom for the hard disk.
On those models you have the choice of finding a new boot rom, or
of booting first from floppy, then telling it so switch to the hard
disk.  [Note:  This is also what you do if you want to partition the
hard disk for both CP/M and TRSDOS or CP/M and XENIX.  You set it up
to boot TRSDOS/XENIX directly, or use the floppy to link to the CP/M
partition of the hard disk.]

Holler if I can help.


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Date: Tue, 17 Jan 89 01:30:19 MST
From: [e-mail]
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #17
To: [e-mail]

INFO-CPM Digest             Tue, 17 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue  17

Today's Topics:
                      Epson PX-8 FILINK software
                             MicroEmacs?
                                Minix
                   Question about altos mp/m//cp/m
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Date: 16 Jan 89 10:52:22 GMT
From: mcvax!hp4nl!kunivv1!phoibos![e-mail]  (Ge Weijers)
Subject: Epson PX-8 FILINK software

Could anyone tell me what file-transfer protocol is used by the Epson
FILINK software on an Epson PX-8. I'd link to use it for file transfer
purposes to non-Epson systems. Any hints would be welcome.

Ge' Weijers.
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
University of Nijmegen,
Toernooiveld 1
the Netherlands.

UUCP: [e-mail] -or- [e-mail] -or- {backbone!}kunivv1!phoibos!ge

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Date: 16 Jan 89 19:49:53 GMT
From: [e-mail]  (Mark W. Eichin)
Subject: MicroEmacs?

After 4 years at MIT, I have become addicted to emacs. Now that I am
back in the micro world, is there a version of emacs (or some editor
with emacs-like bindings) that runs under CP/M or TurboDos? Rebinding
wordstar to have similar commands won't quite do it...
    Mark Eichin    <[e-mail]>
ps. Post discussion, but email any pointers to real code...
/Happy Hacking........\\.............Mark Eichin/
<[e-mail]><SIPB member & Watchmaker>

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Date: 16 Jan 89 16:03:46 GMT
From: pacbell!pbhyd![e-mail]  (Tom Edwards)
Subject: Minix

I tried to mail to Joseph E. Poplawski using the full mailing address he had
given in his letter but it was rejected, so I'm mailing this via the net.
Please excuse the interruption, if you're not interested.

>From: [e-mail] (Joseph E Poplawski)
>Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
>Subject: Some questions...

>Has anyone out there ported Minix to the Commodore 128 native mode using
>either Power-C or Super-C, or to CP/M 3.0 mode?  I already own the book with

>Commodore 128 and 64 to connect to UNIX systems for the purposes of sending and
>receiving mail.  I am not sure if setting up News for the commodore would be


Jo,

I too would be interested in having Minix on my 128 (and being able to
mail/port to Unix systems.

Let me know what you find out.

Thanks,

Tom
--
--
Tom S. Edwards           {att,bellcore,sun,ames,pyramid}!pacbell!pbhyd!tse

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Date: 16 Jan 89 22:06:27 GMT
From: vax5![e-mail]
Subject: Question about altos mp/m//cp/m

I am looking at purchasing and altos machine which has some software that
I am interested in.  The hard-disk (10 or 20 meg) boots mp/m which I guess
is a multi-user cp/m.  It has an 8" floppy drive, and mp/m seems to read
the mp/m (double density) floppies ok, but it can't read the single density
cp/m floppies that have the software I am more interested in.  It's a
leftover machine so the people getting rid of it don't know what it can do.
Documentation is next to non-existent.

My question is this:  Is that 8" drive a dual density drive and do I need a
single density cp/m boot floppy to get it started or what?

please reply directly to me at one of the following:

Internet:     [e-mail]..cornell.edu or [e-mail]
BITnet:       btcx@crnlvax5
SPAN/HEPnet:  CUSPIF::CARCICH (6287::CARCICH)

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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 89 01:30:34 MST
From: [e-mail]
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #18
To: [e-mail]

INFO-CPM Digest             Wed, 18 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue  18

Today's Topics:
                             PX-8 FILINK
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Date: Tue, 17 Jan 89 13:14:06 EST
From: John C Klensin <[e-mail]>
Subject: PX-8 FILINK

FILINK is yet another variation on the XMODEM theme, but has its
own idiosyncracies.  As far as I know--and I tried to find out some
time ago when they were still "supporting" the machine in the US--Epson
was never willing to release the details of the protocol.  They did
distribute versions of the software for one of their desktop CP/M
machines, for at least one of their PC clones, and for the IBM PC itself.
The latter never worked, at least in the copy I got; I can't speak
for the others.

Two suggestions:  There is a version of CP/M kermit set up for the
PX-8 which works well as long as you don't try transferring large
files to and from the optional diskette drive.  And there is another
program that Epson sells, called "Geneva Connection" or something like
that in the US, which supports XMODEM and does so reasonably well.
FILINK seems to be mostly a write-off.

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Date: Thu, 19 Jan 89 01:30:18 MST
From: [e-mail]
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #19
To: [e-mail]

INFO-CPM Digest             Thu, 19 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue  19

Today's Topics:
                      Epson PX-8 FILINK software
                       INFO-CPM Digest V89 #18
                        Turbo Pascal Reissued
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 18 Jan 89 02:37:46 GMT
From: eve.usc.edu![e-mail]  (Mitch Mlinar)
Subject: Epson PX-8 FILINK software

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ge Weijers) writes:
>Could anyone tell me what file-transfer protocol is used by the Epson
>FILINK software on an Epson PX-8. I'd link to use it for file transfer
>purposes to non-Epson systems. Any hints would be welcome.
>

I know you are in the Netherlands, so suggesting that you go to the
simtel20 archives is not possible.  However, they have the source code
to a FILINK-compatable modem program.  Source is included, so the rest
(protocol) should be easy to determine.

I *did* try to email this to you, but it bounced.

-Mitch

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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 89 16:21 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #18

Reference the MIT grad who asked about EMACS.  Apparenly Perfect Writer
is a very clos approximation to EMACS.  Unfortunately Perfect Software
is now defunct.  Perfect Writer was bundled with the CPM Kaypro
computers.  I don't know of the legality of just getting a copy, but
perhaps you can find a Kaypro user who is using WS and no longer wants
his Perfect Writer.  It is not an exact clone, but I recently started
using EMACS on a MULTICS machine and I have only found one or two
commands which I had to look up.

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Date: Tue 18 Jan 1989 15:02:38 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Turbo Pascal Reissued

Some time ago I indicated that Turbo Pascal would again become available.
Having seen an announcement on the Lillipute Z-Node, I can now make the
information public.  Alpha Systems has acquired rights to sell Turbo Pascal
and has prepared a new manual.  The cost is $60 plus $3 shipping and
handling in the US.  The ordering information is as follows:

        Alpha Systems
        711 Chatsworth Place
        San Jose, CA 95128

Since I am passing on this information, I honor-bound to add the following
caveat.  Sage Microsystems East and I, personally, have received a great
many reports of serious order fulfillment problems with Alpha Systems.
Therefore, although Alpha's notice indicates that it will accept payment in
the form of a check, money order, or COD shipment, I recommend that only COD
be used.  That way, if you never receive the product, at least you have not
paid for it.

-- Jay Sage


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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 89 01:30:12 MST
From: [e-mail]
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #20
To: [e-mail]

INFO-CPM Digest             Fri, 20 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue  20

Today's Topics:
                        help: info on Intertec
              Seeking [XY]modem, or Kermit for Kaypro II
                  Soft-Sector for Northstar Horizon?
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Date: 18 Jan 89 12:43:33 GMT
From: ssbell!mcmi!hdr!unocss![e-mail]  (Marcus S. Lewis)
Subject: help: info on Intertec

I have a friend who recently acquired an Interetec machine, and all she
got was a box of hardware and a disk with an absolute minimum of S/W.
That is, a system disk w/ pip and stat on it.
Does there exist a terminal emulator for this machine? Does there exist
documentation?  I have a lot of stuff, but I can't read her disks, and she
cant read mine (I have a Heath H-100).  If I can PIP KERMIT over to her or
SMODEM, we can talk, but I am not up to a major effort.  She plans to run
a packet radio system with this thing.
Tnx in advance.  She's been asking for a couple of weeks now.
Marc Lewis

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Date: 19 Jan 89 23:00:26 GMT
From: att!ihlpf![e-mail]  (00771a-Shumway)
Subject: Seeking [XY]modem, or Kermit for Kaypro II

(Donning my software archeologist's pith helmet)

I'm trying to acquire a shareware or PD implementation of either
Xmodem, Ymodem, or Kermit for a Kaypro II running CPM 2.2H. A
friend is making a great leap forward by upgrading their non-profit
arts administrative office systems from a Kaypro II to the brave
new world of a Macintosh SE.  They've got com software for the Mac
but hope to avoid keying their proposals, budgets, boiler plate and
2000 person mailing list into the Mac. Quite!

Said Kaypro uses 5.25" diskettes, formatted to hold 390K which I
assume is DSDD.

Anyway, If you've a CPM box that can write this format I'll gladly
send a floppy (formatted if need be) to anyone gracious enough to
run off a copy for me.

Many Thanks,

Jesse Fred Shumway    [phone]
att!ih1ap!phread
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 19 Jan 89 22:42:59 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Soft-Sector for Northstar Horizon?

Well, after a three-month disruption (work and hobbies don't always mix),
I have resumed my search for a C compiler.  I've narrowed it down to BDS,
Aztec and Toolworks.  I had called Leor Zolman about BDS, and made a most
distressing discovery: he doesn't distribute on hard-sector floppies.
Subsequent examination of the literature from MANX and Software Toolworks
revealed that they can't help me and my DSDD 10-sector drive, either.  So,
I guess I *first* need to get a soft-sector drive onto my system.  Anyone
remember that cute song about Dear Henry and the bucket?

Anyway, I am pursuing two solutions.  The first is to simply purchase a soft-
sector controller and a drive, and hammer out the driver in Z-80 assembler.
The disadvantage of this is cost: a new Compupro Disk 1B lists for $620.
As the guy who sold me this system concluded, at these prices one is better
off buying a PC clone.  So, does anyone know of less expensive boards, or have
one they want to sell?  Does it bother anyone else that S-100 boards are
getting more expensive while watches, calculators, VCR's and CD players have
dropped in price?

The other possibility is to build a SCSI ontroller, as some people on this
list have done, and buy a SCSI drive.  Assuming that I can find S-100 format
prototyping boards, this would probably be cheaper.  Also, I would relish
getting back to component-level work.  Any leads on prototyping boards?
Has anyone on this list, in addition to Doug Braun, done this?

                -Jim.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Gonzalez                AT&T: 617-873-2937
BBN Systems and Technologies Corp.     ARPA: [e-mail]
Cambridge, Massachusetts        UUCP: ...seismo!bbn!gonzalez
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Date: Sat, 21 Jan 89 01:30:29 MST
From: [e-mail]
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #21
To: [e-mail]

INFO-CPM Digest             Sat, 21 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue  21

Today's Topics:
                     Conversion of OKI 82 to IBM
             Soft-Sector for Northstar Horizon? (2 msgs)
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Date: 20 Jan 89 02:02:14 GMT
From: xanth!nic.MR.NET!hal!ncoast![e-mail]  (David Chou)
Subject: Conversion of OKI 82 to IBM

Jerry Black asked about a product from Rainbow Technologies which converted
the OKIDATA ML-82/83 to a ML-92...well not quite.  The product I have from
the company is called PC-Writer and it performs functions similar to a ML-92
converted to support IBM-PC/Epson NLQ and graphics.  Generally, the product
is good, subject to the limitations of the OKIDATA itself.  It also does not
always behave exactly like the Epson in specialized functions, but it is close.

I have had the card for nearly three years.  It consists of a small board
which clips over the existing ROMS.  At the time it was around $100.  I have
seen the company sell it for $80 recently.  I recommend that you call the
company.  I called them to iron out some early bugs in the firmware and the
people graciously sent me two replacement sets of PROMS.

Rainbow Technologies
17972 Skypark Circle
Suite E
Irvine CA 92714  [phone]

Dave Chou   ncoast![e-mail]

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Date: 20 Jan 89 13:11:39 GMT
From: [e-mail]  (Clarence W. Wilkerson Jr.)
Subject: Soft-Sector for Northstar Horizon?

Advertises in Coimputer Shopper
They have Xebec 1420 SASI boards witha a floppy interface
for $29 + $8 for manual. The manual to the Adaptec 4000
has a schematic for a SASI host adapter for a S100.

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Date: 21 Jan 89 05:27:31 GMT
From: [e-mail]  (Mike Morris)
Subject: Soft-Sector for Northstar Horizon?

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>Well, after a three-month disruption (work and hobbies don't always mix),
>I have resumed my search for a C compiler.  I've narrowed it down to BDS,
>Aztec and Toolworks.  I had called Leor Zolman about BDS, and made a most
>distressing discovery: he doesn't distribute on hard-sector floppies.
>Subsequent examination of the literature from MANX and Software Toolworks
>revealed that they can't help me and my DSDD 10-sector drive, either.  So,
>I guess I *first* need to get a soft-sector drive onto my system.  Anyone
>remember that cute song about Dear Henry and the bucket?
>
>Anyway, I am pursuing two solutions.  The first is to simply purchase a soft-
>sector controller and a drive, and hammer out the driver in Z-80 assembler.
>The disadvantage of this is cost: a new Compupro Disk 1B lists for $620.
>As the guy who sold me this system concluded, at these prices one is better
>off buying a PC clone.  So, does anyone know of less expensive boards, or have
>one they want to sell?  Does it bother anyone else that S-100 boards are
>getting more expensive while watches, calculators, VCR's and CD players have
>dropped in price?
>
>The other possibility is to build a SCSI ontroller, as some people on this
>list have done, and buy a SCSI drive.  Assuming that I can find S-100 format
>prototyping boards, this would probably be cheaper.  Also, I would relish
>getting back to component-level work.  Any leads on prototyping boards?
>Has anyone on this list, in addition to Doug Braun, done this?
>
>                -Jim.


There is another solution - call Workman and Associates in Pasadena, Ca.
at 818-791-7979 (BBS: 791-1013) and order BDS from them.  One of their
services is disk format conversion from (and to) over 350 different
formats, including 8", 5 1/4", 3 1/2", CP/M (-80, -86, -68k), MS/PC-DOS,
UNIX, Atari, etc, etc, etc.  I just got off the phone with Barry Workman,
and he has no problem with supplying a copy of the BDS with a second set
of North Star 10 sector floppies - in fact he has the media in stock.

Let me know if this helps.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
#Include disclaimer.standard
#Include quote.cute

The opinions above probably do not even come close to those of my employer(s).

US Snail: ...............UUCP: .........................Also:
   Mike Morris [e-mail]  ..... WA6ILQ
   P.O. Box 1130
   Arcadia, Ca. 91006-1130

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Date: Sun, 22 Jan 89 01:30:35 MST
From: [e-mail]
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #22
To: [e-mail]

INFO-CPM Digest             Sun, 22 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue  22

Today's Topics:
                  CP/M RAMdisk driver for RamFactor?
                       Fate of Turbo Modula 2 ?
                  Soft-Sector for Northstar Horizon
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Date: 22 Jan 89 00:57:55 GMT
From: marque!studsys![e-mail]  (jetzer)
Subject: CP/M RAMdisk driver for RamFactor?

I run CP/M (MicroSoft version 2.23) on an Apple //e, and I have recently added
a 256K RamFactor RAMcard (it is currently in slot 7, but this can be changed).

Does there exist a driver (preferably public domain) so that I can run
the RamFactor as a RAMdisk?  (I know AE has a driver for their RamWorks, but
don't know of one for the RamFactor.)

--
Mike Jetzer
"Hack first, ask questions later."

------------------------------

Date: 18 Jan 89 11:30:00 GMT
From: mcvax!unido!nixpbe!ugun21![e-mail]
Subject: Fate of Turbo Modula 2 ?

[e-mail] writes:

>    I was wondering if anyone on USENET knows anything about the fate of
>Echelon and/or the Turbo Modula 2 compiler they used to sell.  I own a
>copy of the compiler for my SB180 (purchased through MicroMint), and it
>seems I have another orphan.

>    Does anyone know who 'owns' the rights to Turbo Modula 2 ???  And,
>is it possible to get any information about bug fixes/updates ???  Also,
>I'd like to find documentation on the additional two BIOS calls in the
>new BIOS version (3.2, ZRDOS version 1.7) that came packaged with the
>compiler.  It seems the new calls are there for allocating/releasing
>unused chunks of the RAM disk, but I can't confirm this.  Any ideas?
>Please MAIL replies - I'll summarize and post if enough interest is
>expressed, but I think this is a low interest topic!

1. As far as I know, Micromit (Vernon, CT: [phone]) now 'owns'
   TM-2 (Ref.: Ken Davidson)
2. I use TM-2 on an SB180FX, it allocates-frees RAM disk blocks
   automatically to load modules into.

        Josef Moellers

    paper mail:            e-mail:
c/o Nixdorf Computer AG        USA:  uunet!linus!nixbur!mollers.pad
Abt. EG-3            !USA: mcvax!unido!nixpbe!mollers.pad
Unterer Frankfurter Weg
D-4790 Paderborn
tel.: [phone]

Standard disclaimer: Blablabla opinion blablabla employer blablabla!

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 21 Jan 89 22:03:47 EST
From: [e-mail] (CLarence Wilkerson)
Subject: Soft-Sector for Northstar Horizon

The following got mangled:
Computer Surplus Store, which advertises in Byte and Computer Shopper
has Xebec 1420 SASI boards which will handle two winchester and two
floppies. The price is $29 + $8 for manual(essential). You will also
need a SASI-SCSI host adaptor for your computer. This can be pretty dumb.
The Adaptec 4000 manual ( also $8 from C.S.S ) has a schematic for a
S100 host board. They also sell Apple host adaptors, and JDR sells one for
PC's for $50.

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Date: Tue, 24 Jan 89 01:30:17 MST
From: [e-mail]
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #23
To: [e-mail]

INFO-CPM Digest             Tue, 24 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue  23

Today's Topics:
               STARLINK - an alternative to PC Pursuit
                 Where is Ron Murray, author of ZMP?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1989  00:55 MST
From: Keith Petersen <[e-mail]>
Subject: STARLINK - an alternative to PC Pursuit

The following is provided "as-is" for its informational value.  It is from
a file that was recently uploaded to my BBS.  I cannot answer questions as
I have no connection with this service.

--Keith Petersen  <[e-mail]>

---cut-here---

STARLINK is an alternative to PC Pursuit.  You can call 91 cities in
28 states during off-peak hours (7pm-6am and all weekend) for $1.50
per hour.  All connections through the Tymnet network are 2400 bps
(1200 bps works too) with no surcharge and there are no maximum hours
or other limitations.

There is a one time charge of $50 to signup and a $10 per month
account maintenance fee.  High volume users may elect to pay a $25
per month maintenance fee and $1.00 per hour charge.

The service is operated by Galaxy Telecomm in Virginia Beach, VA and
users may sign up for the service by modem at 804-495-INFO.  You will
get 30 minutes free access time after signing up.

This is a service of Galaxy and not TYMNET.  Galaxy buys large blocks
of hours from TYMNET.  To find out what your local access number is
you can call TYMNET at [phone] 24 hours per day.  Don't ask
them questions about rates, etc., as they don't know.  Call Galaxy
instead.

Galaxy says they will soon have their own 800 number for signups and
information.

The following is a listing of the major cities covered.  There are
others that are a local call from the ones listed.

Eastern Time Zone

Connecticut
  Bloomfield
  Hartford
  Stamford

Florida
   Fort Lauderdale
   Jacksonville
   Longwood
   Miami
   Orlando
   Tampa

Georgia
   Atlanta
   Doraville
   Marietta
   Norcross

Indiana
   Indianapolis

Maryland
   Baltimore

Massachusetts
   Boston
   Cambridge

New Jersey
   Camden
   Englewood Cliffs
   Newark
   Pennsauken
   Princeton
   South Brunswick

New York
   Albany
   Buffalo
   Melville
   New York
   Pittsford
   Rochester
   White Plains

North Carolina
   Charlotte

Ohio
   Akron
   Cincinnati
   Cleveland
   Columbus
   Dayton

Pennsylvania
   Philadelphia
   Pittsburgh

Rhode Island
   Providence

Virginia
   Alexandria
   Arlington
   Fairfax
   Midlothian
   Norfolk
   Portsmouth

Central Time Zone

Alabama
   Birmingham

Illinois
   Chicago
   Glen Ellyn

Kansas
   Wichita

Michigan
   Detroit

Minnesota
   Minneapolis
   St. Paul

Missouri
   Bridgeton
   Independence
   Kansas City
   St. Louis

Nebraska
   Omaha

Oklahoma
   Oklahoma City
   Tulsa

Tennessee
   Memphis
   Nashville

Texas
   Arlington
   Dallas
   Fort Worth
   Houston
   San Antonio

Wisconsin
   Brookfield
   Milwaukee

Mountain Time Zone

Arizona
   Mesa
   Phoenix
   Tucson

Colorado
   Aurora
   Boulder
   Denver

Pacific Time Zone

California
   Alhambra
   Anaheim
   El Segundo
   Long Beach
   Newport Beach
   Oakland
   Pasadena
   Pleasanton
   Sacramento
   San Francisco
   San Jose
   Sherman Oaks
   Vernon
   Walnut Creek

Washington
   Bellevue
   Seattle


STARLINK is a service of Galaxy Telecomm Division, GTC, Inc., the
publishers of BBS Telecomputing News, Galaxy Magazine and other
electronic publications.

------------------------------

Date: 22 Jan 89 21:11:34 GMT
From: hpfcdc!hpldola!hp-lsd![e-mail]  (Bill Stubblebine)
Subject: Where is Ron Murray, author of ZMP?

Recently I installed ZMP on my Ampro Z80 LB+.  ZMP is a ZMODEM program
for CP/M, and can be found in the SIMTEL20 archives.  ZMP works great
for 9600 baud binary file transfers on channels with ^S/^Q flow
control, but the terminal portion of the program seems to drop
characters at 9600 baud.  I'd like to try speeding up the terminal
portion so I can use it for interactive work as well.

I would like very much to get in touch with Ron Murray, author of ZMP.
The only address I found for Ron was this one in the ZMP doc file:

    Ron Murray
    Z-Node 62
    Perth, Western Australia
    (061+) 09-450-0200

Would anyone having an e-mail or postal address for Ron (or Ron, if
you're reading this) please respond to one of the addresses below.
Thanks.

                                Bill Stubblebine
                8245 N. Union Blvd.
                                Colorado Springs, CO  80918
                [e-mail]   (Internet)
                ...!hplabs!hp-lsd!was      (UUCP)
                                [phone]

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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 89 01:30:27 MST
From: [e-mail]
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #24
To: [e-mail]

INFO-CPM Digest             Wed, 25 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue  24

Today's Topics:
                               Archives
                     Comm-Ex User's Manual Needed
                     Help:  Morrow MT-70 terminal
                           Intertec Kermit
              Redirection of printer output--a thank you
                   Sinclair ZX-8x Keyboard Upgrades
                             UUCP Gateway
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Tue, 24 Jan 89 09:11:18 GMT
From: Paul Clayson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Archives

I know how to get PD:<CPM.xxxxxxxx> files from the Simtel20 archives
via Listserv and Trickle machines on Bitnet, but how can I get at the
PS:<ARCHIVES.CPM> files mentioned in the file INFOCPM LIST from
[e-mail]?

Also, does anyone use JRT Pascal and know ways to...
       1 - Write to the printer
   and 2 - Produce stand-alone .COM files from .INT files?

Thanks for any help,
                     Paul Clayson   [e-mail]
                                    [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 24 Jan 89 16:19:50 GMT
From: [e-mail]  (Tom Barron)
Subject: Comm-Ex User's Manual Needed

  I am posting this request for David McCracken, a reporter for
the Chicago Tribune, who owns a Morrow Micro-Decision and a
communications software package called Comm-Ex.  He lacks a
manual for the latter and the manufacturer is out of business.

  If anyone has such a manual and is willing to help please
send me mail (I'm not a regular reader of this group though it
does my heart good to see that it's so active.)

  Thanks in advance,

Tom Barron        internet:    [e-mail]
Computer Science            [e-mail]
University of Chicago    bitnet        [e-mail]
[phone]        uucp        ...uunet!gargoyle.uchicago.edu!thos

------------------------------

Date: 24 Jan 89 15:39:56 GMT
From: mentor.cc.purdue.edu![e-mail]  (Bill Bormann)
Subject: Help:  Morrow MT-70 terminal

An odd series of events has delivered to me a Morrow MD-5 system with
a Morrow MT-70 terminal.  The terminal looks rather interesting, but I
have zero (0) documentation on the device, so I am in the dark as to
the escape sequences used to control it.  I'd be grateful if anyone
reading this newsgroup could point me to a source of documentation for
this terminal, or a public domain program (with source) that exercises
MT-70 features.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 24 Jan 89 22:53:59 IST
From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Intertec Kermit

IF your machine is a SUPERBRAIN, and IF your STAT shows the diskette to
have 180 kbytes capacity, j{ust send me by e-mail your snailmail
address, I will send you what you need (KERMIT, as you know, means free).

Sorry, can't push your e-mail address into my IBM mainframe mailer.
DOn't miss the tw{o ZEROES of phr00jg in my own address.

                                         Jacq{ues

PS: terminal emulator. {I have written for myself an ADM 3A  emulator on
t{he Superbrain, and will add it. It's Ok for work wi{th Unix and IBM 7171
systems.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 24 Jan 89 08:25:43 CST
From: "Craig Pepmiller" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Redirection of printer output--a thank you

Most gracious thanks to David Goodenough at (?) Xerox.  He sent me the HEX and
source for a small utility called REDIR that did just what was needed.

David--no modifications were needed, so your code is at least fairly generic.
I have tried to thank you directly but haven't been able to work out the return
path.  Thanks again.

Thanks to the net and CP/Mers in general, this is truly a wise and generous
list!

Craig Pepmiller
Computing Services
University of Missouri--Columbia

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 24 Jan 89 07:20:51 PST
From: [e-mail] (Richard Secrist, DEC U.S.)
Subject: Sinclair ZX-8x Keyboard Upgrades

    Does anyone have any success stories of upgrading their Sinclair
    ZX-8n keyboards to "real" ones ?  I have a close-hardware-cousin
    Forth machine (Jupiter Ace) who needs a similar procedure.

    Thanks,
    rcs

------------------------------

Date: Mon 24 Jan 1989 13:50:50 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: UUCP Gateway

   I have recently tried to send return mail to people with addresses like
[e-mail].  All these messages have been bounced.  Does
anyone know what is wrong with this address or, if there is nothing wrong,
what else I might try to get the messages through.  Thanks.

Jay Sage


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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 89 01:30:46 MST
From: [e-mail]
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #25
To: [e-mail]

INFO-CPM Digest             Fri, 27 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue  25

Today's Topics:
                   HLL Access to the Z Environment
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Wed 26 Jan 1989 12:31:21 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: HLL Access to the Z Environment

Dave Goodman responded to my earlier message on this subject.

>> But the present system is really, with all due respect to Jay, a kludge,
>> albeit an ingenious one.  When ZCPR 3.0 was written, the Cp/m world was
>> stuck with the Digital Research bdos, so another way had to found to
>> transfer the ENV address to a transient program.  Z3INS was the answer;
>> and under ZCPR 3.3/3.4 Jay ingeniously converted the original
>> installation system to an auto-install system.

>> Now, however, we have alternatives to the Digital Research bdos, and one
>> or the other of these alternatives are probably going to be used on most
>> up to date systems.  We expect to be able use calls such as #27 (return
>> ALLOC address), #31 (return DPB address); what is conceptually different
>> about call #nn (return ENV address)?

I thought that this was what I was suggesting.  At the moment there is no
such support in the DOSs.  Adding another full function call, while nice,
may entail too great a penalty in the code.  The new DOSs already have new
function calls to identify themselves, and I was suggesting the possibility
that this new call could be modified to serve as the GETENV function as
well.  This was just a way to keep the code shorter.

NZCOM makes it easy to allocate space for an expanded DOS, but doing so
entails risks, since there are quite a number of programs that make use of
the standard sizes defined by Digital Research.  We probably will soon be
playing with DOSs and CCPs that are larger than standard.

I realized that few HLLs would allow one to get control of the code before
they obliterate the contents of the HL register pair.  In any case, however,
the patch required to capture the value in HL is quite a lot easier to
implement than one that has to simulate a full Z3 header on the program.  In
fact, it seems almost trivial except for figuring out where to store the
address so the program can find it later.  Perhaps the ENV address could be
put in the word at 101H and the byte at 100H changed to C9H (RET) to prevent
catastrophic reexecution using the GO command.  This would be system
independent (unlike trying to use some area in page 0).  But I don't know
much about the inner structure of HLL programs, so there may be obvious
answers (or problems) that I am ignorant of.

I cannot go into any details at this time, but there is a good chance that
sometime this year a version of a popular high level language with integral
support for Z-System features will be released commercially.  If anyone has
any suggestions as to what features they would like to see supported, please
let me know.  Obviously the ENV address will be available.  The next item on
my list was support for DIR: (named directory) references in all file and
directory specifications.  Access to TCAP functions (via a standard Z
library) would be desirable also.  Have I missed any important functions
that must be built into the main compiler code (and could not be handled by
a function library)?  Thanks for any input you can offer.

-- Jay Sage


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Date: Sat, 28 Jan 89 01:30:30 MST
From: [e-mail]
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #26
To: [e-mail]

INFO-CPM Digest             Sat, 28 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue  26

Today's Topics:
                            Amstrad Disks
                       mex & downloading files
                           Osborne I malady
                           pallio / pappio
                        RCP/M Royal Oak status
             Subsrciption Rates for The Computer Journal
                         Thanks on UUCP Help
                            UZI Utilities
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Thu 27 Jan 1989 10:50:06 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Amstrad Disks

A short while back someone asked about the capacity of diskettes on the
Amstrad computer.  I have a PCW512 with one single-sided double-density
drive and one double-sided quad-density drive.  Diskettes formatted for the
former hold 173K (and both sides can be used, giving a total of 346K on the
physical diskette).  This morning, when I made these measurements, I could
not find an empty quad diskette.  A quick estimate (formed by trying --
after only three hours' sleep last night and without a calculator -- to add
the space free to the space occupied in several user areas as shown by SDZ)
gave a value of just over 700K.  One would expect roughly 2 x 346 = 692, but
there is some additional space as a result of fewer system tracks.  If the
person asking this question needs an exact figure, I would be happy to make
a more careful measurement.

-- Jay Sage


------------------------------

Date: Fri Jan 27 09:13:59 1989
From: [e-mail]
Subject: mex & downloading files

OK, thanks guys for all your help with the Profiles dilemma.  Now I've
got another problem.  It'll probably seem quite silly to all you cp/m
experts out there but I need to know how to download a file from a bbs.
I'm using a Kaypro 2X running cp/m 2.2g (no upgrades have been done
here :-) )with an Anchor Automation Signalman Mark XII
modem.  I'm using MEX 112 as my communications software.  Here's the
scenario:  I logged onto the KUGROS (Kaypro BBS) and I moved around
to the area that I wanted (By the way I don't just have a problem
with this bbs it's that I DON'T KNOW what I'm doing!!)  The prompt is
"To DOWNLOAD A FILE enter FILENAME.EXT or 1 to 11" The numbers
corresponding to a specific file.  The xmodem protocol is set on my
version of mex and on the bbs so of course I enter the number
corresponding to the file I want to download and the bbs gives me a msg
that the file is ready to be downloaded and it's waiting for me to give
it something.  My question is WHAT am I supposed to do here?  The GENIE
system says something about starting a receive file.  Is that the same
as turning on capture mode?  If so how long does it take for something
to look like it's happing?  I need step by step info here - you're
explaining it to someone who's about to
pull her hair out.  I tried changing the protocol to xonxoff (which
according to the documentation on the bbs is for simple ASCII text
transfers) and boom I can download the file with no problem both ascii
and binary files, but when I get to trying to run the files, for example
unarc.com, it will not run.  What's the problem?  I am totally confused
and the documentation I have on MEX112 either isn't complete or it
wasn't written to be a step by step tutorial for the COMPLETE NOVICE.  I
know I probably should have learned all this stuff a LONG time ago (when
cp/m was the in os) but I
never had the interest (bad term).  If someone has some simple (and I
really mean simple) documentation they could send me I'd REALLY
appreciate it or if you could explain downloading to me so that I can
understand it I'd appeciate that also.  As I said it's not the bbs it's
just my lack of knowledge on the subject.  I had the same problem on
GENIE.  Right now I'm using the university computer system  - an AT&T
3b15 and it's so much easier to ftp from sites than to download from a
bbs.  You just find the file you want and say "get fn.ft" and in a few
minutes you have it.  Of course I'm using procomm, I guess it's kermit
protocol(?), and I'm connected to the LAN.  Can life be that simple
using my kaypro2x?  I really would like it to be.  I too have considered
changing from cp/m to dos but I've found out that there's so much
software out there that it's not necessary for me to do so -- if I can
just get to it, DOWNLOAD it, and make it work.  Hey I'm trying.  I've
had the KAYPRO business pak since late '84 or early '85 and I'm just
starting to see what awaits me through the use of my modem.  I just
learned how to connect to a bbs over the Christmas holiday. (OK quit
laughing)
Well I guess this just about covers it this go round.  Thanks in advance
for all your help and advice.  You really don't know how much I
appreciate it.

--
==============================================================================
#             A day at work is not like a day in paradise !!!             #
#                                          #                                 #
#        Rhonda Ragland                 #    University of Virginia       #
# Internet: [e-mail]             #    Applied Mechanics Program    #
# Bitnet:   [e-mail]       #    Charlottesville, VA  22903   #
# UUCP:     ...!uunet!virginia!watt!rr2g   #    [phone]               #
==============================================================================

------------------------------

Date: 27 Jan 89 16:11:00 GMT
From: uxg.cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso.uiuc.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Osborne I malady

I have an Osborne I SS/DD 80-col mod. computer that I'm not using very much,
and one of the reasons is because it has a habit of munching sectors about
once an hour (when it writes to disk, of course).  More often than not, it
does it to the directory.  Have any of you Ozzie owners come across this
sort of thing in the past?  I'm wondering if it's going to cost much $$$
to get it fixed.  Yes, I've already cleaned the heads.  It happens with
both drives, so my guess is that it's not any moving parts.  And it does
it regardless of how long it's been running.  And yes, I have the Executive
fan installed.

---------------------------------------
L. Haskins -- [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 26 Jan 89 21:04:18 GMT
From: ima!cfisun!lakart![e-mail]  (David Goodenough)
Subject: pallio / pappio

Apologies to all that are not interested, but I don't know how else
to get this out.

I only just caught this, but in the uucp summary I saw the following line
under outgoing mail from other sites:

>From: xait!uucp    To: pappio!dg

If you tried to reach me at pappio!dg and got bounced, try pallio!dg
--
    [e-mail] - David Goodenough        +---+
                        IHS    | +-+-+
    ....... !harvard!xait!lakart!dg            +-+-+ |
AKA:    [e-mail]                +---+

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1989  01:28 MST
From: Keith Petersen <[e-mail]>
Subject: RCP/M Royal Oak status

In answer to several inquiries...  RCP/M Royal Oak should be back
on-line soon after having its hard disk repaired.  Bob Clyne and I had
to pay for the repair out of our own pockets as we have received no
support since it was announced that we needed it.

--keith

------------------------------

Date: Thu 27 Jan 1989 10:50:44 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Subsrciption Rates for The Computer Journal

Although I posted a similar message not very long ago, I am still
getting questions about the subscription rates for The Computer
Journal (TCJ).  Also, I have now talked to Art Carlson, the publisher,
and have learned that my overseas rates were not entirely correct.

                                1 YEAR          2 YEARS
                                ------          -------

        United States             $16             $28

        Canada                    $22             $42

        Surface Foreign           $24

        Air to Europe             $32

        Air to Elsewhere          $38

I did not ask Art Carlson about two-year rates outside the US and
Canada.  The figures might be a bit daunting anyway!  I should add
that a one-year subscription means six issues.  Subscriptions can be
ordered by writing or calling:

        The Computer Journal
        190 Sullivan Crossroad
        Columbia Falls, MT 59912  (that's Montana!)
        406-257-9119

TCJ accepts checks, MasterCard, and VISA.

For those who might be interested, here is an abstract of the table of
contents of the Jan/Feb 89 issue, which just came out.

    Information Engineering by C. Thomas Hilton
        The first part of a series on using the information in our
        databases.

    Modula-2 by Dave Moore, Alex Pournelle, and Barry Workman
        Good reference books are hard to locate.  This list will help
        you find the ones you need.

    Temperature Measurement and Control by Matthew K. Rogoyski
        An inexpensive, automated temperature measuring interface for
        agricultural applications of computers.

    ZCPR3 Corner by Jay Sage
        Z Systems Associates, Z-Nodes, Z-Plan for computer clubs,
        Amstrad computer, and ZFILER.

    Real Computing by Richard Rodman
        National Semiconductor NS32032, hardware for the experimenter,
        CPUs in the series, and software options.

    SPRINT by C. Thomas Hilton
        This may be the best choice for a professional word processor.

    ZCPR3's Named Shell Variables by Rick Charnes
        Using shell variables and the shell stack.

    REL-Style Assembly Language for CP/M and Z-System by Bruce Morgen
        Part 2: Segments, EXTRN, and relieving programming drudgery.

    Advanced CP/M by Bridger Mitchell
        Environmental programming and a tale of too hasty system
        design.

In addition, there is an editorial column, a letters column, and "The
Computer Corner" by Bill Kibler.


------------------------------

Date: Thu 27 Jan 1989 11:08:38 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Thanks on UUCP Help

Thanks to all who helped me with the linkage from ARPA Net to UUCP.
Here are some of the suggestions I received for replacing a return
address like "[e-mail]".

   [e-mail]

        This was the address that was recommended most frequently.  I
        have been using it, and it seems to be working.

   [e-mail]

        Rutgers, I was told, has some responsibility for UUCP and thus
        should be able to handle the routing.

   [e-mail]

        This was recommended for connection to Great Britain.

Some otheres were:

   [e-mail]
   [e-mail]
   [e-mail]
   [e-mail]

-- Jay Sage


------------------------------

Date: 27 Jan 89 16:07:33 GMT
From: mailrus!sharkey!cfctech!rphroy!pte![e-mail]  (Chris Rende)
Subject: UZI Utilities

I missed the UZI utilities that were recently posted. Could someone please
mail them to me?

Thanks,

car.
--
Christopher A. Rende                Multics,DTSS,Shortwave,Scanners,StarTrek
uunet!edsews!{rphroy!}pte!car       Minix,PC/XT,TRS-80 Model I: Buy Sell Trade
...!mcf!pte!car                     Precise Technology & Electronics, Inc.

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Date: Mon, 30 Jan 89 01:31:02 MST
From: [e-mail]
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #27
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INFO-CPM Digest             Mon, 30 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue  27

Today's Topics:
                   anon ftp site for commodore 128
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Date: 29 Jan 89 18:23:23 GMT
From: loligo![e-mail]  (Perrone Ford)
Subject: anon ftp site for commodore 128

Hello,
    Iam tryingto find an anon. FTP sight for  some cpm software to
be used on a commodore 128.  It is kaypro compatible.

    Also, What would be the best way to transmit the software to him.
he is at a remote site (via modem) and Iam on a SUN 3/60.  We
have a PC connected to our ethernet that has a dial out modem...
and we also have a dial up to an mdi that can connec ...connect
to the sun...although i don't know if we can pass data over it....in
a binary form....

    Thanx....I'll be watching.

Perrone Ford
(sys. anal.  Florida State U. Computing Center)

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INFO-CPM Digest             Tue, 31 Jan 89       Volume 89 : Issue  28

Today's Topics:
               Address correction for Royal Oak support
                   Fast IIe 80 col. driver patched
                    Wanted -- info about '82 Zeda
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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1989  01:24 MST
From: Keith Petersen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Address correction for Royal Oak support

I have received several messages saying that mail addressed to the
Royal Oak Support Fund was returned by the post office as
undeliverable.  This problem was caused by the fact that we are
sharing the box with another BBS and I neglected to include a "care
of" line in the address.  Sorry for the inconvenience this caused.

Here is the correct address:

    RCP/M Royal Oak Support Fund
    c/o Detroit Download Central
    P.O. Box 36238
    Detroit, MI  48236

Please make checks payable to me because the system does not have a
bank account of its own.

Thanks!

--Keith Petersen

Co-SysOp, RCP/M Royal Oak

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Date: 30 Jan 89 10:25:23 GMT
From: uop![e-mail]  (Nick Sayer)
Subject: Fast IIe 80 col. driver patched

For those of you with enhanced //e's (or equiv) that run CP/M,
you may remember that when using the PCPI "Fast //e 80 col" driver,
you get mousetext when reverse video is displayed.

I have patched this driver to properly handle enhanced //e's
and the mousetext has been banished. On the down side, you
can't send a ctrl-X to get the mousetext as you could without
the driver. Also, (at least on the IIgs) I can't tell the
difference between having the driver working and not having
it. But that's not my department.

Anyone who wants the revised "New" fast 2e driver, just give
me a shout.

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Nick Sayer | Packet Radio: N6QQQ @ WB6V-2 | Fido: 161/31
uucp: ...!sdcsvax!ucbvax!ucdavis!uop!mrapple
Disclaimer: "The BBC would like to appologize for that last announcement."
cat flames > /dev/null

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Date: 30 Jan 89 22:09:29 GMT
From: netnews.upenn.edu!eniac.seas.upenn.edu![e-mail]  (Robert A. Levene)
Subject: Wanted -- info about '82 Zeda

Hello, CPM world.

I just got (for free; its monitor is flaky) a Zeda CPM computer.

Its circuit board says it's from 1982, and the owner, who didn't want
to fix it, says it's a CPM machine.

However, I have no software for it, nor have I any idea what version
of CPM it uses.  Description follows:

It has a full keyboard, keypad, monitor, 2 full-height 5 1/4"
floppies.  (It resembles a TRS-80 Model 3)

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,
Rob Levene

--
Robert A. Levene          Moore School of Electrical Engineering
Kappa Alpha Society                   University of Pennsylvania
Internet: [e-mail]           Philadelphia, PA

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