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INFO-CPM Digest             Sat,  1 Sep 90       Volume 90 : Issue  136

Today's Topics:
                           CP/M internals?
                           kaypro II kaput
                    Kaypro II needs help! (2 msgs)
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Date: 31 Aug 90 17:44:30 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!samsung!munnari.oz.au!sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au!levels![e-mail]
Subject: CP/M internals?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Kent Boortz) writes:
>
> Could someone explain to me how a typical CP/M (8085) system is working?
>
> Kent Boortz
> [e-mail]

Check out some old Zsystem code.  Or look to TCJ magazine for some articles.
Some of Jay Sage's stuff is on SIMTEL.  Good luck on finding 8085 CP/M code.
You may need to stick to 8080 stuff.

There is an old book named "CP/M programmers' reference" by QUE.  It is the
most extensive ref. on the Official CP/M's & related stuff. (Not by DRI that
is!)
Ronn

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Date: 29 Aug 90 14:36:42 GMT
From: apctrc!drd![e-mail]  (Mike Rovak)
Subject: kaypro II kaput
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

synchrods![e-mail] (Dan Senderowicz) wrote:
} My old kaypro II just died of old age. The cpu board works but
} there is no video. The crt gun is cold, indicating probably that
} the tube is bad (filament) or something is wrong with the power
} supply (maybe the transformer)...

I just recently unloaded a II here in Tulsa.  Fortunately for me, my
video died earlier, and my local Kaypro dealer replaced the video board
and the tube.

My understanding of the kaypro II video is that there are several types
of tubes in II's, each requiring a matching video board.  Therefore, the
first thing I would do would be to try to find an exact replacement tube
from an electronics parts place, assuming that a voltmeter says that your
filament voltage and high voltage are still intact.

If this fails, there is an outfit which advertised in the Kaypro mags
called ERAC which carried spare parts, especially video.  Sorry, I don't
have any further information about them, except to say that you might try
calling Microsphere in Oregon to get additional hardware type help or
phone numbers.

--Mike

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Date: 30 Aug 90 09:44:13 GMT
From: ucselx!crash![e-mail]  (Marc Wilson)
Subject: Kaypro II needs help!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Roger Hanscom) writes:
>
>Hello All --
>Any Kaypro II users out there??  I've got one that acts like someone's
>leaning on the three key.  When I power it on, the "A>" prompt comes up,
>but then a line and a half of threes follows.

Sounds like a similar problem I had with another SBC...

>Does the keyboard (serial) go in via a PIO, SIO, or a TTL 8-bit serial shift
>register (74LS164 ??) ?  Any comments would be appreciated.

The keyboard is served by one of the two SIO chips you see on the motherboard
of the machine.  For the II-83, it's the chip at U70.  For the 2/84, it's the
chip at U11.  Replace it, and see if your problem goes away.  Mine did.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: 31 Aug 90 17:30:56 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au!levels![e-mail]
Subject: Kaypro II needs help!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

> the keyboard (serial) go in via a PIO, SIO, or a TTL 8-bit serial shift
> register (74LS164 ??) ?  Any comments would be appreciated.
>
>               roger           [e-mail]
>                               [e-mail]


Hi:  In the 84 model I have there are 2 SIO's.  The keyboard uses half of one.
I'm not relly sure of the old units, but I have a schematic & I'll get back to
you on it.  As I recall, the 83 units only have one serial on the back panel
and no internal modem. So, I'd assume that one half of the SIO is for the port
and the other half is the keyboard.  That might get you going.  Catch up with
you soon. . .   Ronn

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 6-Sep-90 09:06:57-MDT,6266;000000000000
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INFO-CPM Digest             Thu,  6 Sep 90       Volume 90 : Issue  137

Today's Topics:
                           boot disk needed
                       CP/M internals? (2 msgs)
               CP/M Z80 assembly programming reference
                     Epson QX-10 Vt-100 Emulator
                         Help with Turbo-Dos
               how to get rid of an old S-100 machine?
                           kaypro II kaput
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Date: 2 Sep 90 19:13:57 GMT
From: VAX1.CC.UAKRON.EDU!math-cs.kent.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast![e-mail]  (Phil Smith)
Subject: boot disk needed
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

A friend of mine acquired an ancient portable machine
an Access. It appears to be functional, but it seems
that we need a boot disk for it.
Can anyone help us out?
Thanks in advance

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Date: 4 Sep 90 13:58:27 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au!levels![e-mail]
Subject: CP/M internals?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>
> There is an old book named "CP/M programmers' reference" by QUE.  It is the
> most extensive ref. on the Official CP/M's & related stuff. (Not by DRI that
> is!)
> Ronn
>
>

IMHO that is. BTW it is actually called "CP/M programmers' ENCYCLOPEDIA"
Sorry 'bout that.  It does have alot of stuff on utilities & languages too.
Very recommended. (Especially if it's in a clearance sale!)

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Date: 5 Sep 90 06:23:43 GMT
From: rochester!crdgw1!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!bionet!agate!linus!nixbur!nixpbe!peun11![e-mail]  (Moellers)
Subject: CP/M internals?
Message-ID: <josef.652515823@peun11>

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:

>IMHO that is. BTW it is actually called "CP/M programmers' ENCYCLOPEDIA"
>Sorry 'bout that.  It does have alot of stuff on utilities & languages too.
>Very recommended. (Especially if it's in a clearance sale!)

You would not, by any chance, have an ISBN?

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Date: 3 Sep 90 00:51:50 GMT
From: usc!cs.utexas.edu!mailrus!uflorida!stat!sun13!prism!prism.gatech.EDU![e-mail]  (David P. Forrai)
Subject: CP/M Z80 assembly programming reference
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have never programmed assembly language before and I'm looking for a
good reference on programming the Z80 under CP/M.  All of my programming
experience has been with high level languages (BASIC, FORTRAN, C).  I
appreciate any suggestions!

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Date: 6 Sep 90 02:43:21 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!helios!tamuts![e-mail]  (Mark Lehmann)
Subject: Epson QX-10 Vt-100 Emulator
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Does anyone know of a EPSON QX-10 VT-100 emulator?  If so could
you either send me the address of where you got it, or send me
a copy of it if it is public domain?  I will pay postage and disk
costs.  Thanks.

Mark Lehmann
tamuts.tamu.edu!n160ao

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Date: 3 Sep 90 15:25 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Help with Turbo-Dos
Message-ID: <840*[e-mail]>

I don't know exactly how appropriate this will sound, but im having a LOT of
trouble getting my Turbo Dos (1.41) System to work properly.  Basically
I have the following setup.   Tandon 703 hard disk (30 meg?) 8" 1.2 Meg
floppy, 4 slave processors, and a master processor.  What I want in the
end is to have turbo dos running on all the processors.  I am missing the
GEN and PAR files to generate a proper osmaster.sys, osslavea-d.sys and
osload.com.  If ANYONE can help me out on this, it would be greatly
appreciated, and Im fully willing to give you a little reward in return
for your help.  Please send replies to [e-mail]

Thanks

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Date: Mon, 03 Sep 90 22:47:00 EDT
From: Herbert Lin <[e-mail]>
Subject: how to get rid of an old S-100 machine?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have an old Compupro S-100 machine (512 K), 20 MB hard
disk etc.  Any ideas on how to sell it or get rid of it to a
deserving (tax-deductible) organization that could use it?

thanks...

herb lin
HLIN@NAS (from Bitnet)
[e-mail] (from Internet)

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Date: 2 Sep 90 01:05:48 GMT
From: sci34hub!cdthq![e-mail]  (gary)
Subject: kaypro II kaput
Message-ID: <DkJuo1w161w@cdthq>

[e-mail] (Mike Rovak) writes:

> synchrods![e-mail] (Dan Senderowicz) wrote:
> } My old kaypro II just died of old age. The cpu board works but
> first thing I would do would be to try to find an exact replacement tube
> from an electronics parts place, assuming that a voltmeter says that your
> filament voltage and high voltage are still intact.

Note that measuring the high voltage on a tube requires a special
HV meter. You're trying to test something in the area of 8-9KV here,
at very low current levels. Do NOT try to measure it with your average
VOM; it's not designed for it. FYI, a color tubes' HV is generally
20KV or higher. Don't poke around with it unless you have the proper
tools and someone standing by to shut off power in emergencies.

Gary Heston, at home....

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INFO-CPM Digest             Fri,  7 Sep 90       Volume 90 : Issue  138

Today's Topics:
                             AMSTRAD PCW
                           C for the kaypro
                       INFO-CPM Digest V90 #137
                   Micromint SB180 System For Sale
                             Molecular 32
                     MOVCPM on the TRS-80 Model 4
                          Surplus-ed Boards
                     SYSGEN on the TRS-80 Model 4
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Date: 7 Sep 90 17:11:12 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au!levels![e-mail]
Subject: AMSTRAD PCW
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (2249 Scott Russell ) writes:
> I have an Amstrad PCW82whatever which a bought several years ago mostly to be
> used as a word processor. It is a CP/M based system but uses the strangest
> little 3" diskette cartridges (NOT 3 1/2"!).
>
> If anyone has one of these, do you know how I could adapt a 5 1/4" floppy disk to this machine? Is there a conversion routine to input/output DOS format disks?

Yes, there are 3 companies offering conversion kits now.  See a recent issue of
PCW world for info on these.  An article on that was in one not too long ago,
but they probably advretise as well.  I can get the exact issue if you like.

>
> Also, the word processor that it uses is called Locascript. It is great for me!
> Do you know if it comes in a MS-DOS version?

Same issue of said mag had an article on that as well.  As I recall, there is
an MS-dos version it said.

>
> I really would like to know if anyone is still using this machine.

A friend of mine here has one and my previous girlfriend did too. . .
Jay Sage said he has one.

> I hate to get rid of it.
>
what?  a loyal computerist? :-)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
> "All comments the product of a warped mind and do not reflect the opinions of
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Ronn

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Date: Thu, 6 Sep 90 14:59:20 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Rhonda Gaines)
Subject: C for the kaypro
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Is there a public domain C compiler for cpm?  Specifically Kaypro?


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Date: Thu, 6 Sep 90 17:22 CST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #137

> csd.edu  (David P. Forrai)
>Subject: CP/M Z80 assembly programming reference
>Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>
>I have never programmed assembly language before and I'm looking for a
>good reference on programming the Z80 under CP/M.  All of my programming
>experience has been with high level languages (BASIC, FORTRAN, C).  I
>appreciate any suggestions!
>
You might try  8080/z80 assembly language by Alan R. Miller
published by wiley. ISBN 0-471-08124-8



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Date: 6 Sep 90 21:44:33 GMT
From: lpi.liant.com![e-mail]  (Dustin Clampitt)
Subject: Micromint SB180 System For Sale
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Well, I've decided it's time to clean out my toy box before
I start any new projects, and one of the toys that I think
I'm going to dispose of is my SB180 system.

Here's my setup:

    * SB180 (6Mhz)
    * XBIOS
    * SCSI board
    * Hard disk controller w/10 Meg Miniscribe
    * 2 360K floppies
    * 1 760K floppy (flaky, but I can include a replacement)
    * Integrand case w/power supply

Interested?  I don't even know how much I'd ask for the thing. If I get
an offer that seems reasonable (probably depending on my mood :-) I'll
let it go.  Else I'll probaly just gut it and turn the board into some
sort of controller.

Dustin Clampitt

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Date: 6 Sep 90 07:25:00 GMT
From: dsl.pitt.edu!pitt!darth!insight![e-mail]  (Brian Hughes)
Subject: Molecular 32
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

    While knee deep in a cold Montana stream, minding my own vacation oriented business, back home in Pittsburgh my Molecular 32 took a nasty brownout in the neck.  Everything's OK mechanically.  Turns out the operating system was scrambled. Alas, it also turns out the disks that came with the mnachine held the wrong operating system. They were/are for the Mole 36 - supporting 5.25 technology.

  So... anyone out there running a Mole - the 8" tech.  machine?  I need the genstar programs to reload.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  The machine has been running as a 5 user system at my church.

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Date: Thu, 6 Sep 90 20:02 CDT
From: LANCE TAGLIAPIETRA <[e-mail]>
Subject: MOVCPM on the TRS-80 Model 4
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi All,

I am having troubles moving the Montezuma Micro CP/M on my TRS-80 Model 4.
For Example:
        movcpm 48 *
        save 44 cpm48.com
        sysgen cpm48.com

I save the new system onto my system disk (a backup of course!) but the
resulting system does not recognize any of the files on my disks.  I re-boot
with a 64K system disk, and the files still exist on the disk. Am I doing
something wrong here? Is this a trait of the MOVCPM program?

Lance Tagliapietra  [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 6 Sep 90 09:49:25 PDT
From: [e-mail] (R. Hanscom)
Subject: Surplus-ed Boards
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello All --

I stumbled onto some S-100 cards last weekend that I'm very curious about,
and wonder if any cp/mer's might know about them.  First, an "Advanced
Digital" super six.  It looks like a complete CPU on a card.  128k DRAM,
floppy controller, two (?) serial ports, and a parallel port.  Of course there
is no documentation.  Anybody know about these things??  Are they worth
trying to get running (forgot to mention that it's a 6 MHz Z-80).  Are
there any sources of dox??  Also snagged an old 64K static ram card
(George Morrow) with 32 2K SRAM chips (very useful), but right in the
middle of these guys is a "82S100".  What is that ... a memory manager
of some sort??, PAL??  Anybody know??

        roger           [e-mail]
                        [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 6 Sep 90 20:22 CDT
From: LANCE TAGLIAPIETRA <[e-mail]>
Subject: SYSGEN on the TRS-80 Model 4
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello All,

I am trying to install Z80CCP and ZCPR1 on my TRS-80 Model 4
running Montezuma Micro CP/M and I am having problems with the
SYSGEN program. Using sysgen, I place a copy of the current 64K
system into memory. I then save this image as cpm64.com. Using
DDT I load this image into memory, and overlay the Z80CCP code.
I veryify that the Z80CCP correctly overlayed the cp/m ccp. When
I try to instatll the modified system with SYSGEN, the system
locks up.  SYSGEN will read the original cpm64.com and place it
on disk.  I can make small changes to the cpm64.com with ddt,
and sysgen will still accept it for loading onto system tracks,
so I don't think that I am getting caught by SYSGEN making a
CRC or checksum. I am basically following the instructions in
the ZCPR1 installation file.

I am running out of ideas for getting the new CCP onto a system
disk. I have found where the ccp is kept on the system disk,
and I can even get it off into memory with one of the zap
programs. Would like to avoid having to type all the Z80CCP
hex data into a zap program by hand to get it onto disk, when
SYSGEN should do this form me.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Lance Tagliapietra  [e-mail]

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INFO-CPM Digest             Mon, 10 Sep 90       Volume 90 : Issue  139

Today's Topics:
                             AMSTRAD PCW
        Help!  Term program for Epson QX-10 needed desperately
              Movcpm  and  Zcpr3  on the TRS-80 Model 4
                     Sysgen and installing Z80CCP
          vt100 for QX-10, or for anything, for that matter
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Date: 5 Sep 90 18:51:05 GMT
From: deejay!dyna!gensof!modus![e-mail]  (Luciano Mannucci)
Subject: AMSTRAD PCW
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (2249 Scott Russell ) writes:
> I have an Amstrad PCW82whatever which a bought several years ago mostly to be
> If anyone has one of these, do you know how I could adapt a 5 1/4" floppy
> disk to this machine? Is there a conversion routine to input/output DOS
> format disks?

I'm afraid that the only way to exchange data with a DOS machine is
through the serial port. You need to by an expansion from Amstrad wich
sells the propper software and cable too.

> Also, the word processor that it uses is called Locascript.It is great for me!
> Do you know if it comes in a MS-DOS version?

If I remember well, this *good* WP comes from a software house called
locomotive, somewere in UK. They have written a BASIC too.

>
> I really would like to know if anyone is still using this machine.
> I hate to get rid of it.

My sister does. She feels it's a good baby.


luke.
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Date: 7 Sep 90 14:45:07 GMT
From: unccvax![e-mail]  (b. daniels)
Subject: Help!  Term program for Epson QX-10 needed desperately
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Help

A friend of mine desperately needs a terminal program for his old cpm
Epson QX-10 with the following qualities:

1.  VT100 terminal emulation

2.  Xmodem (or better)  file transefer ability

it also needs to work with a modem connected to the serial port


Anyone who can Email me a program fitting this description (or have
me mail them a 5 1/4" disk)  please respond!  It will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance,
BRian


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Date: Sun, 9 Sep 90 14:09:02 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Movcpm  and  Zcpr3  on the TRS-80 Model 4
Message-ID: <5A09090D3B2102F4-SCTNVE*EUDOH@sctnve>

>                      MOVCPM on the TRS-80 Model 4
>                      SYSGEN on the TRS-80 Model 4

    well, I have trouble with the MOVCPM  under MM CP/M also, as does a
  friend of mine in minnesota so it be a bug in the program itself...

  I have an auto install program for Zcpr3 with the only difference
being that you boot up under MM CP/M first before you actually boot up
Zcpr3, but I guess you can make it auto-boot with the config program....
  So far it runs under MM CP/M on my 80 track drive...and haven't really
gotten around to installing it on my system disk (40 track single sided).
  The guy I got it from is supposed to be sending me some more utilities
 for it, since it only came with the basics to install it...

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Date: Sat, 8 Sep 90 20:29 CDT
From: LANCE TAGLIAPIETRA <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sysgen and installing Z80CCP
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello All,

Since I made my plea for help about SYSGEN on the TRS-80 Model 4, I
have discovered a few more things as I attempt to install Z80CCP.

I verified that DDT is loading the Z80CCP overlay correctly over the
old CCP which I placed in memory with SYSGEN. I am using the correct
offset.

SYSGEN seems to be checking a few bytes in the image, and will lock
the system up if those bytes do not agree with the cp/m ccp. I found
these by using ddt to fill areas of the cp/m ccp with 00H untill
SYSTEN would lock up (requiring reset) when looking at the memory
image of cp/m. I used divide-and-conquer until I located 5 bytes in
the ccp that cannot be changed to 0: (in the sysgen image) 0d28:10,
0d29:16, 0d2a:04, 0d2c:bf 0d2d:08. Other times sysgen will say I
a bad image and abort when I try to use the modified image.

Using DU-V85 (a disk utility available on simtel20) I found the
sectors on my system disk where the ccp is located. I have also worked
out the correct offset for DDT so that I can overlay the Z80CCP
correctly over the old version as Yanked off my system disk with DU
(no offset for SYSGEN).  What I need is a routine that will take
sectors from a file and write them to disk. DU will talk sectors
Yanked into memory and put them into a file, but not the reverse.
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks again for your reply.  It is nice to know that at least someone
read my posting.

Lance Tagliapietra  [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 7 Sep 90 10:08 EDT
From: Pickled Twinkies <[e-mail]>
Subject: vt100 for QX-10, or for anything, for that matter

QTerm is it. You have to do some customizing, but, if you have an external
modem, you can make it a generic cp/m program.

Send to [e-mail] the following mail message.
   Send HELP to [your addrexss on the bnet]
   Send INDEX to [your address]

(sorry. my terminal just crashed - it's a Mac at work using Shiva. What do
you expect?)

   -John

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Return-Path: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 90 15:21:12 MDT
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Reply-To: [e-mail]
Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #140
To: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

INFO-CPM Digest             Wed, 12 Sep 90       Volume 90 : Issue  140

Today's Topics:
                         Amstrad information
               MicroSoft Fortran-80 for Apple CP/M ???
                        Model 4 SYSGEN/MOVCPM
                PCPI AppliCard Drivers wanted/needed!
       problems with pd:<cpm.dskutl>du-v89.lbr file du-v89.com
                            Z80CCP works!
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 90 01:36:01 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Will Rose)
Subject: Amstrad information
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


Mail to <[e-mail]> bounced, so here's some useful addresses:

I've lost your message about Amstrads, but the basic position is that they
are extremely common in the UK and almost unknown in the US.

You can hang 5.25" drives off them without much trouble, and also (I think)
do the other things you wanted.  Oh yes, I think there *is* an IBM version
of Locoscript, for the PC-compatible Amstrads.

Your best bet is to subscribe to one of several UK magazines; try
  8000 Plus
  The Old Barn
  Somerton
  Somerset
  England  TA11 7PY

or:
  Amstrad PCW
  116-120 Goswell Road
  London
  England EC1 7RD

If you didn't want to subscribe, you could just buy a couple of back-
numbers; they are full of ads and so on.

Good luck - Will

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"If heaven too had passions  | Will Rose
     even heaven would       | UUCP: {nosc ucsd hplabs!hp-sdd}!crash!pnet01!cw
     grow old."  -  Li Ho.   | ARPA: crash!pnet01![e-mail]
                             | INET: [e-mail]


UUCP: {nosc ucsd hplabs!hp-sdd}!crash!pnet01!cwr
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 1990 13:07:54 CDT
From: [e-mail] (John D. Baker)
Subject: MicroSoft Fortran-80 for Apple CP/M ???
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I recent picked up a copy of Fortran-80 at a compu-bargain store.

It was supplied in the Apple 5.25" CP/M format.  However, when I tried to
run it, it appeared to operate OK, but it would not even compile the demo
programs that came with it and produced zero-length '.REL' files.

I followed the examples in the manual very carefully and the same thing
occurred each time.

Could this version be MS-SoftCard specific??  I use the PCPI AppliCard with
2 Disk ]['s and 2 UniDisk 3.5's using UNI35.DVR.

I had problems with MBASIC when I installed the UniDisk 3.5's. I found out that
the version I had was SoftCard specific (I was later able to obtain a generic
version which works just fine).

Are some versions of MS-Fortran-80 SoftCard Specific even in terms of program
operation (ignore special runtime routines)???

Better yet, can someone direct me to a good PD/SW CP/M FORTRAN system
(FORTRAN 77, extensions isf possible)??

Hangin' in there w/ CP/M  (looking for ZCPRx.y where x=MAX(version),
                               y=MAX(release).

John D. Baker ->An Apple CP/M-80 nut[ov]

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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 90 14:10+0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Model 4 SYSGEN/MOVCPM
Message-ID: <900910121031.951985@DMZRZU71-UNI-MAINZ--GERMANY>

There are difficulties in using SYSGEN with a non-DRI CCP on the Model 4.
It seems that SYSGEN looks for a checksum and will not accept Z80CCP or
ZCPRx. The solution is to write a program that will overlay the original
system with the new CCP or to extend Z80CCP with an in-memory-loader
which will move Z80CCP to it's location.
Problems with the new 48K-BIOS might result from the fact, that the newly
generated BIOS contains the same drive parameters as the original version,
2 physical drives SSSD 40 Trk. If you have installed other drives, the
original BIOS wouldn't recognize them. You must then insert a MM SYS DISK
containing CONFIG.COM into A: and configure the new System to a freshly
formatted disk, I missed the details.

For information about about a better (banked) BIOS and ZCPR33, support for
80-Micro 320 K RAM etc., mail me your hardware configs.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ruediger Soerensen, University of Mainz, W. Germany
                    Dpt. of Meteorology

BITNET:         ROGER@DMZRZU71
                  CPM@DMZRZU71
paper mail:
                    R. Soerensen
                    Universitaet Mainz
                    Inst. f. Meteorologie
                    D-6500 Mainz 1
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 1990 13:10:21 CDT
From: [e-mail] (John D. Baker)
Subject: PCPI AppliCard Drivers wanted/needed!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Can anyone direct me to source for the AppliCard driver to operate
an SVA MegaByter (8" controller for Apple ]['s)

Thanks,

John D. Baker ->An Apple CP/M-80 nut[ov]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Sep 90 07:54 CDT
From: LANCE TAGLIAPIETRA <[e-mail]>
Subject: problems with pd:<cpm.dskutl>du-v89.lbr file du-v89.com
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello All,

In my efforts to get z80ccp installed on my system, I downloaded the
file pd:<cpm.dskutl>du-v89.lbr from simtel20.  I found that it did not
work like du-v85 that I had been using.

Du-v89.com would not read sectors with the + and - commands, but would
stay on the sector selected when right after the Track command was
given.  I have du-v85, and it properly reads sectors after every + and
- command.

Has anyone else noticed this problem? I am running a cp/m system with
Montezuma Micro BIOS.

Lance Tagliapietra  [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Sep 90 07:44 CDT
From: LANCE TAGLIAPIETRA <[e-mail]>
Subject: Z80CCP works!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I finally did get Z80CCP running on my Model 4.  It works with all the
software I have tested it with, except SYS2M, a utility for putting the
cp/m system into the ram drive to speed up warm boot operations. Many
thanks to those who offered suggestions to my query for help:

robechq![e-mail]
[e-mail] "Ian Cottrell"
[e-mail]  Wayne Sung

I found out that SYSGEN for my system would not be helpful for installing
Z80CCP, but that I could move the z80ccp.com file sector by sector to
overlay the system tracks. Which is what I did, using DU-V85.COM, after
I found out where the ccp was stored on the system tracks.

My next project is to increment my cp/m experience by installing zcpr1
to see how it compares, and then z80dos. This may seem foolish, but the
idea is to get more knowledge about how cp/m is put together, as a program,
and on the disk.

Lance Tagliapietra

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 90 00:24:31 MDT
From: [e-mail]
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #141
To: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

INFO-CPM Digest             Thu, 13 Sep 90       Volume 90 : Issue  141

Today's Topics:
                           C for the kaypro
                Comm program for Dynabyte 5200 system
                              CP/M Books
                         Help with Turbo-Dos
                          s-100 motherboard
                     Sysgen and installing Z80CCP
                             turbo pascal
                                 ZCPR
                    ZSDOS relative clock detection
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 10 Sep 90 18:28:00 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au!levels![e-mail]
Subject: C for the kaypro
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Rhonda Gaines) writes:

> Is there a public domain C compiler for cpm?  Specifically Kaypro?
>
>

There are two versions of Small-C that I KNOW of.  Vers 2.1 I have and was
distributed by MT Books of Redwood City, CA a while back (Dr.Dobbs Fame)
I don't think it's really PD, but it's as close as you're likely to get.
I've got a Kaypro too & was looking for a better compiler (still am)

I'm basically giving in & buying a commercial one soon, but can't decide which.
I have a lot of code for C/80 & BD Software has a new Z-system compatible
compiler for cheep (90 or 60$ depending, see TCJ # 42 Z-corner for more info)
and Hi Tech C has been rumoured to be going for cheep lately in the US and is
supposedly ANSI compatible; Hence my indecision.

You can ask Jay Sage about BDS Z, since I think he can distribute it thru Sage
microsystems East.  He is on the net, but commercial things don't belong here I
think.  So you may want to contact him direct.  I might buy both BDS Z & Hi
tech if I can get a deal on Hi tech.  Let me know what you find out.

Also, I can send you the Small-c archive if you like; just send me yer address
& I'll see about the ok'ness of it ( I believe it's like shareware -25$ ???)

Bye   Ronn

------------------------------

Date: 9 Sep 90 02:38:01 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!aplcen!haven!umbc3!umbc5.umbc.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Comm program for Dynabyte 5200 system
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Does anyone know where I can obtain a communications program, preferably
one that supports xmodem, kermit, or other standard protocols, for a
Dynabyte 5200 CP/M system with the standard 5-1/4 inch floppy drives?

Also, does anyone know anything about expanding the memory for this
system? Although the system has 64K, the manual mentions something
about it being able to use up to 400K of bank-switched memory. Thanks
in advance for any information.

------------------------------

Date: 8 Sep 90 15:44:00 GMT
From: astroatc!nicmad!madnix!deety![e-mail]  (David Douthitt)
Subject: CP/M Books
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

My personal favorite is "The Programmer's CP/M Handbook", by
Andy Johnson-Laird.  Not only is he very knowledgeable about
CP/M, but my understanding is that DR licensed their source code
to him for development.  He's a licensed DR developer.

The book has these chapters:

    1. Introduction
    2. The Structure of CP/M
    3. The CP/M File System
    4. The Console Command Processor (CCP)
    5. The BASIC Disk Operating System
    6. The BASIC Input/Output System
    7. Building a New CP/M System
    8. Writing an Enhanced BIOS
    9. Dealing with Hardware Errors
   10. Debugging a New CP/M System
   11. Additional Utility Programs
   12. Error Messages

Another good book, which doesn't get as deep into CP/M as Andy's book,
is "Mastering CP/M", by Alan R. Miller (published by Sybex) (by the way,
Andy's book is published by Osborne-McGrawHill.).  Alan's book puts more
emphasis on writing for CP/M, using macro assemblers like M80.

Here are the chapters:

    1. CP/M Organization and Operation
    2. Duplicating and Altering CP/M Disks
    3. Adding Features to BIOS
    4. Building a Macro Library
    5. Using BDOS for Nondisk Operations
    6. Reading Disk Files With BDOS
    7. Writing Disk Files With BDOS
    8. The CP/M Directory

Hope this whets your appetite.  Good reading to ya!

------------------------------

Date: 9 Sep 90 16:11:56 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!ccu.umanitoba.ca![e-mail]  (Brian Leclair)
Subject: Help with Turbo-Dos
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am unable to correctly generate an OS for my turbo-dos system.  I have
the following setup, I'd appreciate it if someone could forward me the
proper gen and par files.

Turbo-Dos 1.4
HDC-1001 Hard Disk Controller with Tandon 702 drive (i've got the tables for the hard disk)
Super Six S-100 Single
(5) Super Slave cards.
I have no line printers or other attached S-100 systems

I'd like each slave processor to run the same configuration of turbo-dos,
and the console too.
 The console is 9600 baud, and the other slaves at 9600 aswell.

can anyone send me the proper Gen and Par files?
If necessary, I'll download the directories of all my origional disks and
send them to you.

[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 9 Sep 90 21:04:06 GMT
From: snorkelwacker!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!csd4.csd.uwm.edu![e-mail]  (circuit)
Subject: s-100 motherboard
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

    I am interested in dumping my old s-100 motherboard in my
IMSAI for a new one or a slightly used one. Does anyone know a place
that I might be able to find one. I would also be interested in an old
CompuPro chassis and motherboard too. I have also been looking for a
68020 card , has anyone found one , have one or know of where one exists?!

    Any help, leads or opinions are welcome !

thanks




--
[e-mail]       Illuminati/Conspiracy International &
[e-mail]           Shadow-NET/Alternative Reality



------------------------------

Date: 9 Sep 90 22:46:45 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!bruce!trlluna!rhea.trl.oz.au![e-mail]  (Allan Duncan)
Subject: Sysgen and installing Z80CCP
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

From article <[e-mail]>, by [e-mail] (LANCE TAGLIAPIETRA):
...
> SYSGEN seems to be checking a few bytes in the image, and will lock
> the system up if those bytes do not agree with the cp/m ccp. I found

It is _copy protection_!  Sysgen and CCP contain the serial number of
the o/s, and sysgen checks if they match before doing a copy.  I think
it was to cater for OEM specials that were not supplied with a sysgen,
and you could only get new copies from the supplier, rather than create
your own.

Allan Duncan    ACSnet    [e-mail]
[phone]    ARPA    [e-mail]
        UUCP    {uunet,hplabs,ukc}!munnari!trl.oz!a.duncan
Telecom Research Labs, PO Box 249, Clayton, Victoria, 3168, Australia.

------------------------------

Date: 9 Sep 90 13:57:06 GMT
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!van-bc!ubc-cs!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!ccu.umanitoba.ca![e-mail]  (Brian Leclair)
Subject: turbo pascal
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am using turbo-pascal on a turbo-dos system (CP/M).  Turbopascal has it's
terminal type set to TVI-950.  Does anyone else have any other terminal
types they can send me? (Ansi, VT-100, etc)

------------------------------

Date: 11 Sep 90 02:18:51 GMT
From: clyde.concordia.ca!ccu.umanitoba.ca![e-mail]  (Brian Leclair)
Subject: ZCPR
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Im new to CP/M systems, and i've seen alot of references to ZCPR, can anyone
give me a brief description of exactly what it is?

[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 11 Sep 90 03:26:42 GMT
From: usc!samsung!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!ea.ecn.purdue.edu![e-mail]  (Jeffrey J Wieland)
Subject: ZSDOS relative clock detection
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am rewriting my clock interface overlay for David Goodenough's new
release of UUCP for CP/M.  I need to be able to detect the presence of
the relative clock driver.  It does seem to be documented in the manual
anywhere.
--
                Jeff Wieland
            [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 90 13:15:18 MDT
From: [e-mail]
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #142
To: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

INFO-CPM Digest             Fri, 14 Sep 90       Volume 90 : Issue  142

Today's Topics:
                             AMSTRAD PCW
                Comm program for Dynabyte 5200 system
                Need cpm for Morrow Design machine...
                          Surplus-ed Boards
      Where can I get a uncompress for files compresses with LZH
                                 ZCPR
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 10 Sep 90 13:47:26 GMT
From: wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!sunic!liuida!isy!lysator.liu.se![e-mail]  (MindWalker)
Subject: AMSTRAD PCW
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Luciano Mannucci) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (2249 Scott Russell ) writes:
>> I have an Amstrad PCW82whatever which a bought several years ago mostly to be
>> If anyone has one of these, do you know how I could adapt a 5 1/4" floppy
>> disk to this machine? Is there a conversion routine to input/output DOS
>> format disks?

>I'm afraid that the only way to exchange data with a DOS machine is
>through the serial port. You need to by an expansion from Amstrad wich
>sells the propper software and cable too.

*BEEEEP*  "Wrong guess. Do you want to go for double jeopardy where the stakes
can really change ??"

Seriously, it _IS_ possible to exchange files with an IBM without having
to resort to the serial cable/RS232C mess and it doesn't even require a
typist and an IBM !!!

A couple of years ago, my father bought an add on 5.25" drive from a company
called Peartree computers in England. I don't know if they still exist.
However, this beast enabled you to read/write 80 track 720kB CP/M 3.3 disks
and 40 track (320kB ??) IBM disks, the latter using special conversion
software that came with the machine.

So start checking London's Yellow Pages and good luck !!

/MHd
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Programming isn't a science,         | EMAIL: [e-mail]
it's an art.                         |        [e-mail]
Why is it called common sense,       |        [e-mail]
when so few possess it ?             |

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Date: 14 Sep 90 17:35:05 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jato![e-mail]  (Jeff Dickson)
Subject: Comm program for Dynabyte 5200 system
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Z80 SBC, M80/L80 availability
Summary:
Expires:
References:
Sender:
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Jeff Dickson)
Followup-To:
Distribution: usa
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Keywords:

    Hi! I'm interested in acquiring Z80 CP/M goodies. A long time ago
when I had an Apple IIe I had a Z80 soft-card. Spent a fraction of my time
doing 6502 Assembly language (yuch) - the rest doing Z80 Assembly language
programming (yeah). After that I went to a CCP/M 86 S100 system that I still
have. It uses the 80186. Don't really use it nor have a desire to learn 8086
assembly language. Have been and am an advocate of the Amiga computer since
1985.
    I want to regain the ability to be able to incorporate the Z80 in
future projects.  The Z80 is dirt cheap and a fantastic processor to write
code for.

    Please, anyone who is looking to dump Z80 SBC's (and naturally CP/M)
and/or software M80, L80, etc. please get back to me.

                            Jeff

------------------------------

Date: 11 Sep 90 16:25:28 GMT
From: snoopy![e-mail]
Subject: Need cpm for Morrow Design machine...
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Does anyone know where I can get a copy of cpm for a Morrow Design
Micro Decision machine.  A friend of mine desperately needs it.

Thanks,




[e-mail]  "They say their punch cards got burned up,
[e-mail]   and they want to know if we can recover them."

------------------------------

Date: 11 Sep 90 12:52:03 GMT
From: snorkelwacker!usc!samsung!munnari.oz.au!sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au!levels![e-mail]
Subject: Surplus-ed Boards
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (R. Hanscom) writes:
>
> I stumbled onto some S-100 cards last weekend that I'm very curious about,

Good score.  I don't know anything about those tho, sorry.  But I used to work
at the lab there, and there was a company down Vasco Road south of East Ave.
The guy who was VP (or?) left the Instrument shop at the lab to do S100 there
and then returned to the shop (?) before I left myself.  You might want to go
into the instrument shop & ask for him.  Unfortunately, I can't remember his
name.  You can give Gary Michalak a call & he might point you in the right
direction, regardless.  He's a pretty cluey bloke.  You can find him in the
directory. . .  Tell him hello from Big Ronn.

> but right in the
> middle of these guys is a "82S100".  What is that ... a memory manager
> of some sort??, PAL??  Anybody know??

It's an old Signetics PROM, call Eric Davis in the CAMAC Test Facility for more
poop on it.  Tell him "Stomey" sent you!  (please) :-)


C'ya    Ronn

------------------------------

Date: 13 Sep 90 00:42:22 GMT
From: unccvax![e-mail]  (b. daniels)
Subject: Where can I get a uncompress for files compresses with LZH
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I recently got qterm, but it is compressed with the LZH compresser!
The docs say either EXL.COM or CRLZH??.LBR will fix it, but I cannot
find either of these at the FTP sites I have tried so far.
Please e-mail me if you know where these (or any file that will work) can
be found...

Thanks in advance,
Brian


--
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I access the net, therefore I am...
                        Brian Daniels ([e-mail])
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------------------------------

Date: 12 Sep 90 18:27:48 GMT
From: snorkelwacker!usc!samsung!munnari.oz.au!sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au!levels![e-mail]
Subject: ZCPR
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Brian Leclair) writes:
> Im new to CP/M systems, and i've seen alot of references to ZCPR, can anyone
> give me a brief description of exactly what it is?


Sure, ZCPR is a replacement CCP (Console Command Processor) for CP/M systems.
It's difficult to grasp if you're not familiar with CP/M and how it's
structured, so I'd suggest that you find a quick descriptive article on it
(CP/M that is) to see how the rest will sit with you.  CP/M has access to
basically a 64Kbyte address space using a Z80 (That's where the Z comes from
in ZCPR) and parts of the operating system (CP/M) use various parts of it.
There is the BIOS, BDOS, CCP and TPA. . .
BIOS is the routines that allow interface to the particular hardware you've
got.  They come with the machine (hopefully) and are written by the computer's
manufacturer, originally.  You may replace this with specialty code if you can
find something for your machine still available.
BDOS are simple routines used for manditory functions.  They are all standard
by number & use so any CP/M program can call them to get something common
accomplished.  You can replace it with some thing like ZRDOS or ZSDOS I
believe.
CCP is what interfaces the User (you) to the BDOS & other things.  So ZCPRx
really is the front end of choice for many users since it's newer, faster,
nicer and generally more capable of keeping you sane while operating the micro
at hand.  It's can have many things in it depending upon which version you
have.  It's up to 3.4 now & you can buy an auto-install version (NZCOM) from
many places (ALPHA, etc.) for about $69.00 US.  Some of the features you may
find valuable are: Named directories, Standard Video Terminal Capabilities,
Aliasing and Shells (allows history of command line inputs & lots of other
labour saving features), multiple command lines & so much other stuph that it'l
spin you out.  It's definitely worth 69 bucks.  I understand NZCOM is so simple
to use that there is no excuse to run ZCPR over the stock CP/M CCP (except for
poverty or apathy)  you can also have the older versions (3.3) for free if you
can slog thru alot of system programming (tedious).
Any ways,  That's probably more than you wanted to know except that the TPA is
the Transient Program Area, Basically it's what is left over that you run
applications in. (Wordstar, etc)
Good luck,  go & get some issues of The Computer Journal or Microcornucopia if
you want to go further.

Ronn

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Date: Mon, 17 Sep 90 18:15:20 MDT
From: [e-mail]
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #143
To: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

INFO-CPM Digest             Mon, 17 Sep 90       Volume 90 : Issue  143

Today's Topics:
                           Amstrad PCW info
                       Aztec C Manual wanted!?
                            Locoscript PC
                       LZH un-archiver for CP/M
                  MAXRom and TEAC FD55 drive 1.2M??
                       NEC PC-8500 User's Guide
                Need cpm for Morrow Design machine...
                    Northstar Advantage Book Disk
                        SuperBrain System Disk
                    terminal emulation for kaypro
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 14 Sep 90 15:26:51 BST
From: D M Pickles <[e-mail]>
Subject: Amstrad PCW info
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Regarding the recent missives about Amstrad PCW's etc: I am a PCW owner
inthe UK, and can confirm there are several external 3.5" and 5.25" disc
drives marketed for it by various companies over here... there is also
a 3" external drive (i.e. one which takes those nasty little Amstrad-
specific diskettes) intended to be hooked up to a PC.  I believe several
of the packages come with software intended to transfer files from the
Amstrad's CP/M to MS-DOS format too.

There is also *definitely* a MS-DOS version of the Locoscript WP software,
only recently released by Locomotive Software - called surprisingly,
Locoscript-PC.  Costs about 100 pounds.
Locomotive do produce a BASIC (called Mallard Basic, which is bundled with
the PCW along with CP/M+ and Locoscript), and lots of other stuff like
LocoSpell, LocoMail (self explanatory) LocoFile (pop-up database), LocoFont
(different fonts for the PCW's bundled printer, plus several more I don't
remember off-hand, all of which are ancillary to LocoScript.

If anyone wants any more specific info, contact me by Email and I'll
delve into my back-issues of Amstrad magazines!

--David Pickles   ([e-mail]1a)

------------------------------

Date: 14 Sep 90 13:18:28 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au!levels![e-mail]
Subject: Aztec C Manual wanted!?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello You ol' C hounds:

Does anybody have an extra copy of an Aztec C manual?  I got my compiler with
the KayproI bought & have never been able to figure it out.
I'll pay ya fer a copy or buy yer old one if you want to give it up.. .
Thanks for any replies.

Ronn

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 15 Sep 90 11:15:45 GMT
From: Christopher Currie (IHR) <[e-mail]>
Subject: Locoscript PC
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Locoscript PC (ie MS_DOS version of Amstrad Locoscript) is produced
by Locomotive Software, Dorking, Surrey, RH4 1YL, UK.
 Tel. (UK)-0306-740606. No fax number given. The recommended
retail price is 125 pounds, but you can probably get a discount.

Christopher

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 15 Sep 90 11:20:27 GMT
From: Christopher Currie (IHR) <[e-mail]>
Subject: LZH un-archiver for CP/M
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

There is an UN-LZH dearchiver available for CP/M from
wsmr-Simtel20.army.mil, either in the directory <CPM.ARC-LBR>, or
in <CPM.ZIP>, or in <CPM.SQUSQ>. I can't check the filename
or directory at the moment because our network link
is down. I've got a copy at home but I can't
remember what it's called.

Christopher

------------------------------

Date: 17 Sep 90 15:52:37 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au!levels![e-mail]
Subject: MAXRom and TEAC FD55 drive 1.2M??
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Help:

I bought a uC MAXRom for my 84 Kaypro.  Now I am trying to connect a Quad
density drive to it for 750K storage capability.  Will a standard 1.2M
AT type floppy drive work.  Probably not.  Alternatively, Can I strap my
TEAC 1.2 FD55 to act like a Quad density drive?  What are the differences
between 1.2M and 720K quad drives.  Spindle speed only?  Same # of tracks?
I'm getting bogged down without proper specs for these things.
Thanks for any info...
Ronn

------------------------------

Date: 17 Sep 90 06:24:15 GMT
From: unmvax!pprg.unm.edu!topgun!mustang!data![e-mail]  (Jonathan Hahn)
Subject: NEC PC-8500 User's Guide
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have a few extra User's Guides for the NEC PC-8500 laptop I'd like to
sell.  List price from NEC is $15.95.  I'll let each go for $9, or $10
if I need to ship.  Or, I'll trade for an 8500 telcom user's guide.

-jonathan hahn
--
[e-mail]                wk: [phone]
..!ames!amelia!hahn                    hm: [phone]

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Date: 12 Sep 90 18:25:04 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!peregrine!sceard!ncr-sd!simasd!simasd!pnet07![e-mail]  (Don Maslin)
Subject: Need cpm for Morrow Design machine...
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I can probably help out with a system disk for your friend's Morrow.  However,
the Morrow used many variants of CP/M which were dependent upon the model
and the monitor prom version.  That's the 24 pin chip in about the middle of
the board which probably has a sticker on it that says MD-ROM Rev n.n and
what looks like a Hex checksum on it.

With that information, I can perhaps help out.

UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm
ARPA: simasd!pnet07![e-mail]
INET: [e-mail]

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Date: 17 Sep 90 19:20:10 GMT
From: dev!dgis![e-mail]  (Timothy Swenson)
Subject: Northstar Advantage Book Disk
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I was just given a NorthStar Advantage by a friend (at least
I think it is an Advantage, the Horizon had the Terminal in
a seperate unit, where as my system as the terminal and cpu
and disks all togheter).
    I am looking for a book disk for the beast.  It seems
to work OK, it's just that I do not have a book disk to test
it with.  It keeps telling me to put a book disk it.
    If someone out there has one, I am willing to pick
up the postage and cost of the disk.  I'd like to at least
see if the beast is working.

    Tim Swenson
    [e-mail]
    [e-mail]

P.S.  Once I get a boot disk, any one got any PD software?

------------------------------

Date: 12 Sep 90 19:25:04 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!peregrine!sceard!ncr-sd!simasd!simasd!pnet07![e-mail]  (Don Maslin)
Subject: SuperBrain System Disk
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Need a system (boot) disk for a SuperBrain CP/M computer.  Will pay media,
mailer, & postage costs.  Thanks.

UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm
ARPA: simasd!pnet07![e-mail]
INET: [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 17 Sep 90 13:31:03 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Rhonda Gaines)
Subject: terminal emulation for kaypro
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have a Kaypro 2X that I use to access the computer systems
on campus.  I need to access Sun & AT&T machines.  Logging on is no
problem.  The problem comes in when I use the jove editor. What
terminal emulation should I be using to use jove? Or should I be
using a different editor all together?  The editors (I know of
available) are: jove, emacs, vi.  I've tried vt100, and adm5.  adm5
works better than vt100 but not the best.  Any ideas?  What about a
different terminal program?  I have kconnect (developed here for use
w/ kaypros), mex, and mdm7.

Any ideas/comments appreciated.

 -Rhonda


--
Rhonda Gaines                   |   University of Virginia
phone:  [phone]            |   Thornton Hall
bitnet: [e-mail]  |   Applied Mechanics Program
internet: [e-mail]   |   Charlottesville, VA  22903-2442

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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 90 01:15:06 MDT
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INFO-CPM Digest             Wed, 19 Sep 90       Volume 90 : Issue  144

Today's Topics:
        80 Track  drives as B-drive on AMSTRAD CP/M computers
                      AMSTRAD Computers and ZCPR
             Personal to Ian Justman (Re: Timer patches)
                terminal emulation for kaypro (2 msgs)
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 18 Sep 90 11:06:11 GMT
From: usc!samsung!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!smurf!gopnbg!altger!doitcr![e-mail]  (Helmut Jungkunz)
Subject: 80 Track  drives as B-drive on AMSTRAD CP/M computers
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello people,

I keep reading all sorts of very costfull advices on additional drives on
AMSTRAD CP/M computers. We, the Schneider/Amstrad CPC User Group (SCUG) of
Munich, offer help to everyone, who wants to add a second drive to his AMSTRAD.

Our advice is to always try and get a DSQD (i.e. 80 Track) drive, even if you
can use only one side for the time beeing. We have a universal driver program
to support a single-sided 80 track format with 360K capacitiy for all AMSTRAD
CP/M computers that can also be use by the CPCs in BASIC! By using a hardware
switcfor head select, one might also use the other side of the disk, by
simply switching to the second head. Be careful not to modify the drive itself,
use jumper points, wherever possible. There are also some drives enabling
double-stepping via jumper select, so that exchanging information with 40 track
drives is also possible, as long as you are the receiving side. If you initiate
such a disk, make sure to use a virgin disk, or, even better, a disk formatted
by the destination drive.

The format is called B360K and available as public domain. A BASIC formatter,
a CP/M 2.2 formatter and a multipurpose CP/M Plus formatter are included in
the package. Although copyrights are held by the author, Andreas Kisslinger,
you are free to copy and distribute these programs, provided no commercial
pricing is charged. If you must charge copyiing, then please be moderate.

Information anprograms can be obtained through me. Send a preformatted disk
of your format, labelled wtih your format name and your address plus a short
handwritten note what it is that you want to this address:

Schneider/Amstrad CPC User Group Munich, c/o Helmut Jungkunz, Zacherlstr. 14,
8045 Ismaning, Germany  Tel. [phone]

Use any brand of dri, it'll work on almost all known drives. There are some
drives, though, that can only access 77 tracks correctly, those were used in
older computers. Modern drives should all be capable of accessing at least 80
to 82 tracks.

Note: avoid strange formats, try to stick to the original formats
as soon as you want anybody else to ever read your disks.

With best regards,

Helmut


------------------------------

Date: 16 Sep 90 20:50:32 GMT
From: snorkelwacker!ira.uka.de!smurf!gopnbg!altger!doitcr![e-mail]  (Helmut Jungkunz)
Subject: AMSTRAD Computers and ZCPR
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello people,

I am the head of the Munich  Schneider/Amstrad CPC User Group (SCUG) and
I am also SIG-OP of NBBS 08165/60041   300 1200 2400 Baud which represents
the direct contact to ZNODE #51, the only European ZNODE.
You have to be a registered user with NBBS to access this system, though.
Membership is paid on time-dependant credits. So- you decide, when your
money is going down the line, not a stupid bank computer.

Fees are  v e r y   moderate, believe me.

Besides, we are looking for AMSTRAD users all over, to improve the performance
of our equipment. Many utilities can be programmed in a portable manner, so
they can both run on PCWs and CPCs without any changes. This is a very important
point, which is often overlooked and creates lots of unnecessary work.

Very good standard routines can be found in SYSLIB versions, latest of which is
version 4. All Help-files and 30 MB of utilities for ZCPR can be accessed here.
Note: Z3PLUS is testes and works fine on the AMSTRAD PCW as well! So now you
can make use of all the fine goodies for CP/M Plus as well!

3" discs are no pronlem to get over here. They're not too expensive (about 3 to
4 US \$s each, depending on exchange rates, I suppose).

User Groups, please do get in contact with us! We use all kinds of CP/M Machines
Atari Sts and IBM compatibles. We don't want any contacts with illegal copiers
of software, we want good and friendly contacts to all colleagues.

Hope to hear from you soon!

Ciao,

-> Helmut Jungkunz <-

------------------------------

Date: 18 Sep 90 15:46:59 GMT
From: bu.edu!mirror!pallio![e-mail]  (David Goodenough)
Subject: Personal to Ian Justman (Re: Timer patches)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Ian,
Firstly, can you get me an E-mail address that won't bounce: sactoh0
keep sending back stuff addressed to sctoh0!ijsys!ianj, it looks
like the sactoh0!ijsys link is down: I've tried sending this five
times now, and it keeps bouncing (see below).

--- cut here --- cut here --- cut here --- cut here --- cut here ---
>From xait!think!ames!pacbell!sactoh0!uucp  Tue Sep 18 08:16:51 1990
Received: by pallio.UUCP (CP/M MAIL V2.1b)
    id XX00011d21; Tue, 18 Sep 90 08:16:51 EDT
Received: from think.UUCP by XAIT.Xerox.COM with UUCP;
    Tue, 18 Sep 90 07:44:29 -0400
Received: from mail.think.com by Early-Bird.Think.COM;
    Tue, 18 Sep 90 07:32:06 EDT
Return-Path: <pacbell!sactoh0![e-mail]>
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    Tue, 18 Sep 90 07:32:14 -0400
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    id AA07333; Tue, 18 Sep 90 07:32:10 -0400
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Received: by sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (smail2.5)
    id AA00966; 17 Sep 90 23:47:05 PDT (Mon)
Subject: Warning From uucp
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
Date: 17 Sep 90 23:47:05 PDT (Mon)
>From: xait!think!ames!sactoh0.SAC.CA.US!uucp (UNIX-to-UNIX Calling PROGRAM Admin)
To: pacbell!ames!think!xait!pallio!dg

We have been unable to contact machine 'ijsys' since you queued your job.

    ijsys!mail ianj   (Date 09/16)
The job will be deleted in several days if the problem is not corrected.
If you care to kill the job, execute the following command:

    uustat -kijsysN20bf

    Sincerely,
    sactoh0!uucp

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##### Data File: ############################
>From pacbell!ames!think!xait!pallio!dg  Sun Sep 16 18:48:03 1990 remote from sactoh0
Received: by sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (smail2.5)
    id AA19823; 16 Sep 90 18:48:03 PDT (Sun)
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    Sat, 15 Sep 90 18:38:53 -0700
Received: from xait.UUCP by Early-Bird.Think.COM;
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Received: from pallio.UUCP by XAIT.Xerox.COM with UUCP;
    Sat, 15 Sep 90 20:16:23 -0400
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    id XX00011cfd; Sat, 15 Sep 90 18:37:00 EDT
To: think!ames!pacbell!sactoh0!ijsys!ianj
Subject: Timer patches
>From: ames!think!xait!pallio!dg (David Goodenough)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 90 18:37:00 EDT
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>

Ian,
> I got the latest version of UUCP, and I have a small problem with
> the timer overlay I wrote. .....
> ..... but they act as if the routines weren't there to begin with.

The one possible cause is the value in HL when you return from the timer
patch. The code that calls the timer code expects HL to be zero on
return. If it's non-zero, then the programs assume an error, and don't
use the patch value, and prompt anyway. I don't know if this is the case,
but it's the only thing I can think of. Check what is happening, and let
me know.

            Yours,
--
    [e-mail] - David Goodenough        +---+
                        IHS    | +-+-+
    ..... !harvard!xait!pallio!dg            +-+-+ |
AKA:    [e-mail]              +---+

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Date: 19 Sep 90 01:09:52 GMT
From: ogicse!milton!blake.u.washington.edu![e-mail]  (Finn)
Subject: terminal emulation for kaypro
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Rhonda Gaines) writes:
>I have a Kaypro 2X that I use to access the computer systems
>on campus.  I need to access Sun & AT&T machines.  Logging on is no
>  (stuff gone)
>different terminal program?  I have kconnect (developed here for use
>w/ kaypros), mex, and mdm7.
>

I haven't seen kconnect, but mex works just fine.  Tell whatever
that you connect with that your terminal is an
ADM3A
and the terminal emulation will work just fine.

------------------------------

Date: 19 Sep 90 00:03:20 GMT
From: eru!hagbard!sunic!news.funet.fi!hydra!hylka![e-mail]
Subject: terminal emulation for kaypro
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Rhonda Gaines) writes:
> problem.  The problem comes in when I use the jove editor. What
> terminal emulation should I be using to use jove? Or should I be

Try using either adm3a or vt52. I don't recall which, but either of
these should be ok for Kaypro.

Flame me, if I fouled up..

Juha Laiho  [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 90 23:09:01 MDT
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INFO-CPM Digest             Thu, 20 Sep 90       Volume 90 : Issue  145

Today's Topics:
                        CPM Companion (2 msgs)
                        RASM86/LINK86 (2 msgs)
          vt100 for QX-10, or for anything, for that matter
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Wed, 19 Sep 90 12:29:40 EDT
From: Mack Goodman <[e-mail]>
Subject: CPM Companion
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Could someone send me a brief description of what this device
is, and could it be useful for me.  I have a Northstar Advantage.
This device is called " CPM Companion 2.2 "  It is a black box
with a couple of ports on it and a "edge" connector?

Private replys may be most appropriate,  Thanks in advance.

Mack Goodman

------------------------------

Date: 20 Sep 90 22:25:03 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!hubcap!ncrcae!ncr-sd!simasd!simasd!pnet07![e-mail]  (Don Maslin)
Subject: CPM Companion
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Not private, please.  Let us all know!

UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm
ARPA: simasd!pnet07![e-mail]
INET: [e-mail]

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Date: 19 Sep 90 09:17:37 GMT
From: pacbell.com!pacbell!sactoh0!ijpc![e-mail]  (Ian Justman)
Subject: RASM86/LINK86
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Does anyone have said programs in subject line?  When I got my
CompuPro 8/16 from a friend of mine's work, I didn't get the
assembler, and the linker doesn't want to cooperate with command
structure.  If it'll help, I'm running Concurrent DOS 4.1, and I
need both programs to do a more detail system regen.

Thanks in advance.

------------------------------

Date: 20 Sep 90 06:26:07 GMT
From: crash![e-mail]  (Marc Wilson)
Subject: RASM86/LINK86
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ian Justman) writes:
>Does anyone have said programs in subject line?  When I got my
>CompuPro 8/16 from a friend of mine's work, I didn't get the
>assembler, and the linker doesn't want to cooperate with command
>structure.  If it'll help, I'm running Concurrent DOS 4.1, and I
>need both programs to do a more detail system regen.

     You only need RASM/LINK if you're going to re-assemble
HEADENTR.A86.  You can alter the system to your hearts content with
CDOSINST and the appropriate XIOS.CON file.

     Do you have documentation for this?  You DO know that you're
supposed to use GENCCPM to re-generate the OS?  Ok, then.

     Now, both RASM86 and LINK86 are *NOT* public domain.  They are
copyrighted software packages, and as such cannot be passed around.
What you need to do is to find a copy of the "Programmer's Utilities"
package for CP/M-86.  You'll find RASM and LINK there.

     Oh, BTW... RASM 1.0 will *NOT* correctly assemble HEADENTR, nor
will LINK86 1.0 link it correctly.  In order to do it, I used RASM86
v1.3 from the Assembler Plus Tools package, and LINK86 v1.02 from my
copy of DRI's C compiler.  This was forced on me because the
XIOS320.CON file supplied by CompuPro won't allow a PC-DOS partition
due to a bad media byte.  I had to re-assemble it.

     If you can tell me what you want done, I suppose I can assemble
it for you.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Marc Wilson
     ARPA: ...!crash![e-mail]
           ...!crash!pnet01!pro-sol![e-mail]
     UUCP: [ cbosgd | hp-sdd!hplabs | sdcsvax | nosc ]!crash!mwilson
     INET: [e-mail]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Marc Wilson
     ARPA: ...!crash![e-mail]
           ...!crash!pnet01!pro-sol![e-mail]
     UUCP: [ cbosgd | hp-sdd!hplabs | sdcsvax | nosc ]!crash!mwilson
     INET: [e-mail]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Date: 20 Sep 90 00:35:56 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!think.com!mintaka!spdcc!ima!mirror!pallio![e-mail]  (David Goodenough)
Subject: vt100 for QX-10, or for anything, for that matter
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In response to someone asking about terminal programs, [e-mail]
(Pickled Twinkies) says:
> QTerm is it. You have to do some customizing, but, if you have an external
> modem, you can make it a generic cp/m program.
>
> Send to [e-mail] the following mail message.
>   Send HELP to [your addrexss on the bnet]
>   Send INDEX to [your address]

Two things: the address is [e-mail] - lakart is where
it _USED_ to be, but they went of line about 18 months ago, and pallio now
talks directly to xait. PLEASE DON'T USE lakart.uucp, because it probably
won't work.

Also, the lines would be:

/send help to address
/send index to address

where 'address' is your address in '@' syntax for domain sites, or '!'
syntax for UUCP hosts. The '/' is important, and the first three words
must be in lower case.

BTW, the site that I use to resolve '@' addresses understands
[e-mail], so bitnet users can get this stuff without any fuss.
--
    [e-mail] - David Goodenough        +---+
                        IHS    | +-+-+
    ..... !harvard!xait!pallio!dg            +-+-+ |
AKA:    [e-mail]              +---+

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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 90 00:24:36 MDT
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #146
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Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

INFO-CPM Digest             Mon, 24 Sep 90       Volume 90 : Issue  146

Today's Topics:
                     How "hard" is CR-LF (3 msgs)
                     Kaypro LQ printer JUKI 6100
                   MAXRom and TEAC FD55 drive 1.2M
                          New cp/m user help
                    terminal emulation for kaypro
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 21 Sep 90 11:07:55 GMT
From: agate!linus!nixbur!nixpbe!peun11![e-mail]  (Moellers)
Subject: How "hard" is CR-LF
Message-ID: <josef.653915275@peun11>

Hi,
Can somebody tell me how "hard" the CR/LF sequence is built into CP/M?
I'm asking this as I want to read a text-file line by line and need a
definite place to terminate the line.
UNIX uses a single \n, but with a two character sequence, I'm not sure
if LF is always the last character and the second last character is
always a CR which I can discard.

Regards,

--
| Josef Moellers        |    c/o Nixdorf Computer AG    |
|  USA: [e-mail]    |    Abt. PXD-S14        |
| !USA: [e-mail]    |    Heinz-Nixdorf-Ring    |
| Phone: [phone]    |    D-4790 Paderborn    |

------------------------------

Date: 22 Sep 90 16:48:02 GMT
From: crash![e-mail]  (Marc Wilson)
Subject: How "hard" is CR-LF
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <josef.653915275@peun11> [e-mail] (Moellers) writes:
>Hi,
>Can somebody tell me how "hard" the CR/LF sequence is built into CP/M?
>I'm asking this as I want to read a text-file line by line and need a
>definite place to terminate the line.

     It's not built into CP/M at all.  It's just that most terminals
and hardcopy drvices of the time required both the CR and the LF to
get to the first position on the next line.

>UNIX uses a single \n, but with a two character sequence, I'm not sure
>if LF is always the last character and the second last character is
>always a CR which I can discard.

     Why don't you just scan for the CR?  If you find one, then look
at the next character.  If it's a LF, then throw it away.  If it's
not, you've got a weird file.

     You could always therminate the line at 80 characters or CR,
whichever comes first.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Marc Wilson
     ARPA: ...!crash![e-mail]
           ...!crash!pnet01!pro-sol![e-mail]
     UUCP: [ cbosgd | hp-sdd!hplabs | sdcsvax | nosc ]!crash!mwilson
     INET: [e-mail]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Marc Wilson
     ARPA: ...!crash![e-mail]
           ...!crash!pnet01!pro-sol![e-mail]
     UUCP: [ cbosgd | hp-sdd!hplabs | sdcsvax | nosc ]!crash!mwilson
     INET: [e-mail]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Date: 23 Sep 90 09:21:41 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix![e-mail]  (Ewen McNeill)
Subject: How "hard" is CR-LF
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Marc Wilson) writes:
>      Why don't you just scan for the CR?  If you find one, then look
> at the next character.  If it's a LF, then throw it away.  If it's
> not, you've got a weird file.
IMHO, the best idea is to scan for a LF.  If you find a CR, then
ignore it.  This means that you can read in text files that were
produced on Unix/Amiga/whatever which only have LFs, directly.

If more CP/M utilities did this (UNARC does when typing a file from
an archive), then life would be much nicer, and I could throw away
my unix2cpm program.

---
Ewen McNeill.                Email: [e-mail]

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Date: 24 Sep 90 05:25:53 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx![e-mail]  (Alex Nghiem)
Subject: Kaypro LQ printer JUKI 6100
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have just inherited a Kaypro Letter Quality Printer, also
known as JUKI 6100. If you have the dip switch settings for
this printer, could you send me E-mail?

Thanks,
Alex Nghiem

__________________________________________________________________________
This article is posted for discussion only. Any misrepresentation,
if any, is purely unintentional. Any opinion expressed or implicit in
these remarks are solely my own.

[e-mail]
!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!nghiem
[e-mail]
!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!ccwf!nghiem

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Date: 21 Sep 90 12:37:16 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au!levels![e-mail]
Subject: MAXRom and TEAC FD55 drive 1.2M
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
> Help:
>
> I bought a uC MAXRom for my 84 Kaypro.  Now I am trying to connect a Quad
> density drive to it for 750K storage capability.  Will a standard 1.2M
> AT type floppy drive work.  Probably not.  Alternatively, Can I strap my
> TEAC 1.2 FD55 to act like a Quad density drive?  What are the differences
> between 1.2M and 720K quad drives.  Spindle speed only?  Same # of tracks?
> I'm getting bogged down without proper specs for these things.
> Thanks for any info...
> Ronn

Just following up to my own posting. . .

I have a new drive, an FD-55FV, which is a real quad density.  It goes nicely
just in case anyone cares about this type of thing.  I was told by the TEAC
local guru that it is possible to strap an FD-55GFR (1.2M) to act like a Quad.
Although I have not received the docs in the mail yet. Anyways . . .
They are really quiet as well!
Ronn


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Date: 22 Sep 90 01:36:08 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!jarthur![e-mail]  (Bill Gribble)
Subject: New cp/m user help
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I hate to post blind to a newsgroup, but here goes:

A friend who doesn't have news access just acquired a cp/m machine
  (a Kaypro 4) and knows nothing about the os.  Can someone direct him
  to good books, PD software sites (preferably ftp) and send some good
  general information?

The name of a good PD terminal program would also be greatly appreciated.
  Any email can be directed to jwarren@hmcvax.{bitnet | claremont.edu}.
  Thanks in advance.

                                          Bill Gribble

*****************************************************************************
**   Bill Gribble                     Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA   **
**   [e-mail]   [phone] ext 2038              **
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Date: 21 Sep 90 12:29:28 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au!levels![e-mail]
Subject: terminal emulation for kaypro
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Rhonda Gaines) writes:
>> problem.  The problem comes in when I use the jove editor. What
>> terminal emulation should I be using to use jove? Or should I be
>
> Try using either adm3a or vt52. I don't recall which, but either of
> these should be ok for Kaypro.

Hello u Kaypro'ers:
ADM3 is the stock terminal type for Kaypros, unfortunately, my VAX here don't
support anything but VT-type terminals.  There is an emulator on SIMTEL if you
can access it.  Other wise the MAXROM 84 from microcornucopia will give you
VT52 emulation in ROM.  I got it a few months ago & have had no problems with
at all.  Actually, I just got a quad drive for 50$A and now have 780K storage!
I love it.  For 79$US it's a fair deal.  Anyways there you go . . .

>
> Flame me, if I fouled up..

No worries, mate!  Are you masochistic?  ;-/

>
> Juha Laiho  [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 25 Sep 90 01:15:31 MDT
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INFO-CPM Digest             Tue, 25 Sep 90       Volume 90 : Issue  147

Today's Topics:
                            CPM Companion
                         How "hard" is CR-LF
                            Kaypro Termcap
                           Turbo-Dos help!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Mon, 24 Sep 90 16:14:36 EDT
From: Mack Goodman <[e-mail]>
Subject: CPM Companion
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have looked at this and have more information.  But as of yet,
no one has replied.  Again, if anyone out there knows anything
about this device, PLEASE tell me.

It has three rs-232 type female connections on the back.  These
are labeled, modem, printer, and terminal.

There is also a disk drive and a small indicator light which
says "virtual disk" next to it.

Hope this hepls someone identify this hardware.

Thanks
Mack Goodman

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Date: 24 Sep 90 00:20:57 GMT
From: attcan!telly!lethe!druid![e-mail]  (D'Arcy J.M. Cain)
Subject: How "hard" is CR-LF
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <josef.653915275@peun11> [e-mail] (Moellers) writes:
>Hi,
>Can somebody tell me how "hard" the CR/LF sequence is built into CP/M?
>I'm asking this as I want to read a text-file line by line and need a
>definite place to terminate the line.
>UNIX uses a single \n, but with a two character sequence, I'm not sure
>if LF is always the last character and the second last character is
>always a CR which I can discard.
>
A quick and dirty method that I have used successfully in both DOS and CP/M
is to simply ignore CRs and use \n as the line terminator.  This will work
most of the time.  It even ports to Unix unchanged although it is a little
wasteful of the CPU checking for non-existent CRs.

--
D'Arcy J.M. Cain (darcy@druid)     |
D'Arcy Cain Consulting             |   MS-DOS:  The Andrew Dice Clay
West Hill, Ontario, Canada         |   of operating systems.
+ 416 281 6094                     |

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Date: 25 Sep 90 03:46:36 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!bu.edu!mirror!pallio![e-mail]  (David Goodenough)
Subject: Kaypro Termcap
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

A couple of people expressed interest in a termcap for a Kaypro a while back.
There are two versions here, for the non-graphics (1983) Kaypros and for the
graphics (1984) Kaypros.  They should work just fine, but of course I don't
guarentee anything.  And no, the 500 ms. delay on the clear screen command is
not a typo.  The Kaypro 4 ('84) really does need it, even at 1200 baud!

--- cut here --- cut here --- cut here --- cut here --- cut here ---
k4|kp84|Kaypro84:am:bs:co#80:li#24:cl=500^Z:cm=\E=%+ %+ :nd=^L:up=^K
        :ho=^^:ce=^X:cd=^W:al=\ER:dl=\EE
        :so=\EB0\EB1:se=\EC0\EC1:us=\EB3:ue=\EC3
        :kl=^H:kr=^L:ku=^K:kd=^J
k3|kp83|Kaypro83:so@:se@:us@:ue@:tc=kp84
--- cut here --- cut here --- cut here --- cut here --- cut here ---

You may also want to mess with a delay on the ce, cd, al and dl
capabilities, since they might take some time too.
--
    [e-mail] - David Goodenough        +---+
                        IHS    | +-+-+
    ..... !harvard!xait!pallio!dg            +-+-+ |
AKA:    [e-mail]              +---+

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Date: 25 Sep 90 06:21:57 GMT
From: clyde.concordia.ca!ccu.umanitoba.ca![e-mail]  (Brian Leclair)
Subject: Turbo-Dos help!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am having some problems with my turbo-dos system.  I have included the
gen and par files in this text.  The problem is very simply, it doesn't work!
I can hear the slaves loading the OSSLAVE(A-D).SYS over the floppy, and I can
see their bus lights flashing, but I get no prompt or copyright software 2000
notice on the terminals.  Can someone please look over these gen/par files
; S6LDR8.DO  (MAKES OSLOAD.SYS AND OSLOAD.COM)
;
gen s6ldr8 osload.com
gen s6ldr8 osload1.com ;l1400
delete osload.sys
rename osload1.com osload.sys

----- END OF FILE -----

; S6LDR8.GEN    (OSLOAD.COM/OSLOAD.SYS  GEN FILE)
STDLOADR        ; STANDARD LOADE
S6NIT           ; SUPER SIX HARDWARE INITIALIZATION
CONDR           ; CONSOLE DRIVER
S6DSK           ; SUPER SIX DISK DRIVER
S6DST58F        ; SUPER SIX DISK SPEC TABLE
HARDISK         ; HARD DISK DRIVE FOR HDC1001
HARDTBLS        ; HARD DISK TABLE HEADER
TM703A          ; 52MB HARD DISK
S6SIO           ; SUPER SIX SERIAL I/O DRIVERS
RTCNUL          ; REAL TIME CLOCK DRIVER

----- END OF FILE -----

; S6LDR8.PAR    (OSLOAD.COM/OSLOAD.SYS  PAR FILE)
CONBR = 8E              ; 9600 BAUD CONSOLE
DSKAST = 0,DSKDRA       ; A = FLOPPY 0
         1,DSKDRA       ; B = FLOPPY 1
         0,DSKDRB       ; C = HARD DISK 0

DRVTBL = 2,2
LOADFN = 0,"OSMASTER","SYS"
MEMTOP = (0)            ;(0)   = DON'T TEST MEMORY

----- END OF FILE -----

; S6MLT8.DO  (GENERATES OSMASTER.SYS)
GEN S6MLT8 OSMASTER.SYS

----- END OF FILE -----

; S6MLT8.GEN  (OSMASTER.SYS  GEN FILE)
STDMASTR        ; STANDARD NETWORKING MASTER
FASLOD          ; OPTIMIZED PROGRAM LOADER
CPMSUP          ; CP/M FUNCTION SUPPORT MODULE
MPMSUP          ; MPM FUNCTION SUPPORT MODULE
QUEMGR          ; MPM QUEUE MANAGER
S6NIT           ; HARDWARE INITIALIZATION
CONREM          ; REMOTE CONSOLE DRIVER (FOR REMOTE MASTER OPERATION)
S6SIO           ; SUPER SIX SERIAL I/O DRIVERS
S6RTC           ; SUPER SIX REAL TIME CLOCK DRIVER
LSTCTS          ; LIST DRIVER FOR 9600 BAUD PRINTER (CTS HANDSHAKE{PIN 20})
LSTPAR          ; LIST DRIVER FOR PARALLEL PORT
S6DSK           ; SUPER SIX DISK DRIVER
DST8FR          ; DISK SPEC. TABLES FOR 8 INCH
HARDISK         ; HARD DISK DRIVE FOR HDC1001
HARDTBLS        ; HARD DISK TABLE HEADER
TM703A          ; 52MB HARD DISK
S6SOM           ; SUPER SIX SIGNON MESSAGE
MCDSS           ; MASTER CIRCUIT DRIVER FOR SUPER SLAVES
SSLOAD          ; SUPER SLAVE INITIAL LOAD
SSBOOT          ; SUPER SLAVE OPERATING SYSTEM BOOT
PATCH           ; PATCH MODULE

----- END OF FILE -----

; S6MLT8.PAR   (OSMASTER.SYS  PAR FILE)
;CONBR = 0CF            ; 19.2K BAUD RATE WITH DTR HANDSHAKE
;CONBR = 8E             ; 9600 BAUD CONSOLE
CTSBR = 67              ; 1200 BAUD CTS PRINTER

SRHDRV = 0FF            ; SEARCH SYSTEM DISK FOR CMMAND FILES
COMPAT = 0F8            ; RECORD/FILE LOCKING COMPATIBILITY FLAGS

;  PRINTER ASSIGNMENTS

PTRAST = 1,LSTDRA       ;  PRINTER A = CTS PRINTER(local)
         0,LSTDRB       ;  PRINTER A = CENTRONICS  (local)

DSPPAT = 1,2            ; ASSIGN EACH PRINTER TO ITS OWN QUEUE
QUEAST = 0,(0),0,(0),0,(0),0,(0),0,(0),0,(0)

; DISK DRIVE ASSIGNMENTS

DSKAST = 0,DSKDRA       ;  A = FLOPPY 0
         1,DSKDRA       ;  B = FLOPPY 1
         0,DSKDRB       ;  C = HARD DISK 0

DRVTBL = 2,2            ; FIRST TWO DRIVES 8"
BFLDLY = (258)          ; 10 SECOND BUFFER FLUSH DELAY
AUTUSR = 080            ; DEFAULT TO PRIVLEGED, USER 0
NMBUFS = 12             ; NUMBER OF BUFFERS (16)
NMBMBS = 0A             ; PRE-ALLOCATE NMBSVC*2 MESSAGE BUFFERS
NMBRPS = 0A             ; PRE-ALLOCATE NMBSVC*2 REPLY WAITING BUFFERS
NMBSVC = 4              ; NUMBER OF "SERVER PROCESSES" (NUMBER OF SLAVES)
NMBSSA = 4              ; NUMBER OF SUPER SLAVES SLAVES SUPPORTED ON FIRST DRIVER

;--------------------------------------------------------------------
;                      SSASTA EXPLANATION
;
; EACH ALPHANUMERIC CHARACTER IN THE STRING IS CONCATENATED TO THE END
; OF THE OSSLAVE.SYS SEARCH NAME
; FOR EXAMPLE:
; SSASTA = 'AB'   <--- SEARCHES THE FIRST SLAVE FOR 'OSSLAVEA.SYS' AND
;                      THE SECOND SLAVE FOR 'OSSLAVEB.SYS'
;--------------------------------------------------------------------

SSASTA = 'ABCD            '     ;SUPER SLAVE SYSTEM ASSIGNMENT TABLE

; TURBODOS 1.41-1 PATCH
; APPLICATION: Z80 CONFIGURATIONS WITH 'LCLUSR' MODULE.
; PURPOSE: TO MAKE OPTIMIZED CONSOLE STATUS FUNCTIONS TO RETURN
; STATUS IN L-REG (AS WELL AS A-REG).
CINTRY+22 = PATCH,44
PATCH = 21,00,00,7D,0C9

----- END OF FILE -----

;  SSLAVBK4.DO  (Generates four banked slave systems :)
;  "OSSLAVEA.SYS", "OSSLAVEB.SYS", "OSSLAVEC.SYS" and "OSSLAVED.SYS"

gen sslavbka osslavea.sys;kfc00
gen sslavbkb osslaveb.sys;kfc00
gen sslavbkc osslavec.sys;kfc00
gen sslavbkd osslaved.sys;kfc00

----- END OF FILE -----


;SSLAVBKA.GEN file to generate an "OSSLAVEA.SYS" (banked)
; (NOT SSLAVBKA, SSLAVBKB, SSLAVBKC, SSLAVBKD  ARE EXACTLY THE SAME SO
;    I HAVE ONLY INCLUDED SSLAVBKA.GEN/PAR)

STDSLAVE        ;STANDARD NETWORKING SLAVE
BNKMGR          ;BANKED MEMORY MANAGER
BNKREQ          ;NETLOD EQUIVALENT FOR BANKED SYSTEMS
CPMSUP          ;CP/M FUNCTION SUPPORT MODULE
MPMSUP          ;MP/M FUNCTION SUPPORT MODULE
QUEMGR          ;QUEUE MANAGER
SSNIT           ;SUPER SLAVE HARDWARE INITIALIZATION
CONDR           ;CONSOLE DRIVER
SSLSTPAR        ;PRINTER DRIVER FOR CENTRONICS
LSTCTS          ;PRINTER DRIVER FOR 9600 BAUD, CTS HANDSHAKING
SSSIO2          ;SUPER SLAVE SERIAL I/O DRIVER FOR 2 SERIAL PORTS
SSCKTDR         ;SUPER SLAVE CIRCUIT DRIVER
SLVRES          ;SLAVE RESET DETECTION
SSRTC           ;SUPER SLAVE REAL TIME CLOCK
SSBNK           ;SUPER SLAVE BANK SELECT DRIVER
SSSOM           ;SUPER SLAVE SIGN ON MESSAGE
PATCH           ;PATCH MODULE

----- END OF FILE -----


; SSLAVBKA.PAR file to generate an "OSSLAVEA.SYS" (banked)

USRSOM = 0D,0A,'Advanced Digital Corp. Banked Super Slave A ready.$'

SRHDRV = 0FF            ;SEARCH SYSTEM DISK FOR .COM FILES
COMPAT = 0F8            ;FILE/RECORD LOCKING COMPATIBILITY FLAGS
;CPMVER = 022           ;INHIBIT CB-80 RECORD LOCKING
;CONBR = 0CF            ;USE 19.2K BAUD TERMINAL FOR CONSOLE WITH CTS
CONBR = 0CE             ;USE 9600 BAUD TERMINAL FOR CONSOLE
CTSBR = 67              ;1200 BAUD CTS PRINTER
ATNCHR = 0              ;USE "BREAK" KEY FOR ATTENTION
PRTMOD = 1              ;DEFAULT PRINT MODE = SPOOLED
;
PTRAST+6 = 00,LSTDRA    ; PRINTER C = CENTRONICS
           01,LSTDRB    ; PRINTER D = SERIAL
QUEAST+6 = 0,(0),0,(0)  ; QUEUE ASSIGNMENT TABLE, LOCALLY GENERATED QUEUE
DSPPAT+2 = 3,4          ; PRINTER C USES QUEUE C, PRINTER D USES QUEUE D
QUEPTR = 3              ; COME UP ON PRINTER C
;
AUTUSR = 80             ;DEFAULT = USER 0, PRIVILEGED
;
;       TO USE AUTO LOGON FACILITY OF TurboDos:
;
;         PUT SEMI-COLON (;) IN FRONT OF PRECEDING LINE.
;         COPY "LOGON.COM" TO USER 31 AND RENAME IT
;         TO "WARMSTRT.AUT". THEN CREA
PTRAST+6 = 00,LSTDRA    ; PRINTER C = CENTRONICS
           01,LSTDRB    ; PRINTER D = SERIAL
QUEAST+6 = 0,(0),0,(0)  ; QUEUE ASSIGNMENT TABLE, LOCALLY GENERATED QUEUE
DSPPAT+2 = 3,4          ; PRINTER C USES QUEUE C, PRINTER D USES QUEUE D
QUEPTR = 3              ; COME UP ON PRINTER C
;
AUTUSR = 80             ;DEFAULT = USER 0, PRIVILEGED
SLRSEQ = "|","|"        ;SLAVE RESET SEQUENCE (UP TO 5 CHARACTERS)

----- END OF FILE -----

Please direct responses to [e-mail]  either via this
forum, or preferably EAN.

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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 90 05:15:09 MDT
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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V90 #148
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INFO-CPM Digest             Wed, 26 Sep 90       Volume 90 : Issue  148

Today's Topics:
                               AZTEC C
                  MAXRom and TEAC FD55 drive 1.2M??
                            N* information
                   Personal to Jacques J. Goldberg
                         Sierra Data Sciences
                    terminal emulation for kaypro
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Wed, 26 Sep 90 03:38:22 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: AZTEC C
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]
Subject:   AZTEC C
Resent-From: [e-mail]
Resent-To: ac959.at.cleveland.Freenet.Edu
Resent-Date: Thu 20 Sep 1990 12:02-MDT

Hi:
I sent a letter to them about a year ago to an address in
Microcornucopia from about that era (82) Anyways, It bounced and I
found a new address, (I'm not sure if it's different!)  But was going
to give it another shot.  I just really want the manual since I've got
the floppies & system stuff.  I think my compiler is stuffed because
it doesn't like Semi-colons at the end of lines!?  And spaces either.
Also, I just need a good reference over all.  Thank you for your help.
I'll get my version; I think It's 1.05?

See ya, Ronn

          ===========================================
          ===========================================

Hello Ronn,

I've got a copy of the AZTEC II C (v 1.05) manual that you can
buy for $20.00 (including S&H in the USA).  I've had it for some
time and I never really got to use it, so I might as well let
someone who wants it get to use it.

Also, I sell the MIX 'C' compiler for CP/M.  It is a full K & R
implementation of the 'C' language that comes with a
tutorial/manual which, in my opinion, alone is worth the price
of the package.  Price of the package is $20.00 plus $5.00 for
S&H in the USA (CA must add sales tax).  It's a true bargain for
the beginning and intermediate 'C' language programmer.  Since I
support TeleVideo CP/M systems on my BBS, I only 'stock' the
software on TeleVideo (5.25" DD,DS) formatted disks.  If you
cannot transfer to your disk format, I can put the software on
almost any UNIFORM supported format for $2.50 per disk (2 disks)
or I can arrange for you to download the software from the BBS
directly to your computer.

If you are interested in either or both of the above items, you
can contact me in one of the ways listed below.  Take care.

### 
--
 Ed Grey  \*\  Sysop of The Grey Matter BBS & RCP/M 213-971-6260
 P.O. Box #2186  \*\  Bitnet: ac959%cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm
 Inglewood, CA 90305  \*\  Internet: [e-mail]
 USA     \**\     [phone]     \**\     Fidonet: 1:102/752

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Date: 24 Sep 90 23:58:58 GMT
From: zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!percy!nosun!techbook![e-mail]  (Frank Zsitvay)
Subject: MAXRom and TEAC FD55 drive 1.2M??
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>Help:
>
>I bought a uC MAXRom for my 84 Kaypro.  Now I am trying to connect a Quad
>density drive to it for 750K storage capability.  Will a standard 1.2M
>AT type floppy drive work.  Probably not.  Alternatively, Can I strap my
>TEAC 1.2 FD55 to act like a Quad density drive?  What are the differences
>between 1.2M and 720K quad drives.  Spindle speed only?  Same # of tracks?
>I'm getting bogged down without proper specs for these things.
>Thanks for any info...
>Ronn

   Well, in theory you could use a 1.2 meg drive as a 750k drive, but it would
be a waste of money to do so.

C

   the ibm 1.2 meg drives have the equivalent of 8 inch drive electronics,
at least a subset.

   a nifty thing you could do if you wanted to use the 3.5 inch drives,
a 3.5 inch 720k ibm drive is electrically the same as a dsqd 96tpi 5.25
inch drive.

   problems with going the 1.2 meg drive route....   the tracks these drives
write are substantially narrower than even the dsqd drive tracks, to say
nothing of the dsdd tracks.   also, the write current is also greater.

   these drives can write an ibm 360k format, but the chances of another
type of drive reading it is about 50/50.

   if you already have a 1.2 meg drive, see if you can trade it either for
a real dsqd drive, or for a 720k 3.5 inch drive.

,
--
[e-mail] - one of these days i'll get it right...

Version 2 of anything is usually the version that works.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 26 Sep 90 03:41:19 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: N* information
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Date: 17 Sep 90 19:20:10 GMT
From: dev!dgis![e-mail]  (Timothy Swenson)
Subject: Northstar Advantage Book Disk
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I was just given a NorthStar Advantage by a friend (at least
I think it is an Advantage, the Horizon had the Terminal in
a seperate unit, where as my system as the terminal and cpu
and disks all togheter).
        I am looking for a book disk for the beast.  It seems
to work OK, it's just that I do not have a book disk to test
it with.  It keeps telling me to put a book disk it.
        If someone out there has one, I am willing to pick
up the postage and cost of the disk.  I'd like to at least
see if the beast is working.

        Tim Swenson
        [e-mail]
        [e-mail]

P.S.  Once I get a boot disk, any one got any PD software?

            ========================================
            ========================================

Hello Tim, for help with your Northstar Advantage, I suggest
that you call Bob Dean, Sysop of the Drexel Hill Northstar BBS
[phone].  I'm sure that he would be able to assist you.
Take care.

###

--
 Ed Grey  \*\  Sysop of The Grey Matter BBS & RCP/M 213-971-6260
 P.O. Box #2186  \*\  Bitnet: ac959%cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm
 Inglewood, CA 90305  \*\  Internet: [e-mail]
 USA     \**\     [phone]     \**\     Fidonet: 1:102/752

------------------------------

Date: 25 Sep 90 18:45:03 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!hubcap!ncrcae!ncr-sd!simasd!simasd!pnet07![e-mail]  (Don Maslin)
Subject: Personal to Jacques J. Goldberg
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Jacques -

For reasons that I don't fully understand, both a 'reply' and a 'send'
to you have bounced so I am resorting to broadband.  Your assumptions
were correct.  Please send to:

                      7742 Via Capri
                      La Jolla CA 92037

Thanks -                                      Don Maslin


UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm
ARPA: simasd!pnet07![e-mail]
INET: [e-mail]

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Date: 26 Sep 90 03:50:33 GMT
From: ucselx!bionet!uwm.edu!dogie.macc.wisc.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!abcfd20.larc.nasa.gov!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!sci.ccny.cuny.edu!dsndata!unocss!  (mlewis)
Subject: Sierra Data Sciences
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I recently acquired a Sierra Data Sciences SBC and system and have a
teeny tiny problem.  There are two serial ports on teh board, clearly
marked as to which is a terminal port and which is the printer port.
The problem is that there is a largish number of jumper points directly
below the header on the board, which I must assume are there to configure
the port characteristics.  I have no idea what the jumpers ought to look
like, and my clone won't talk to it, or vice versa.  The monitor listing
implies I don't even need a disk to get the board talking, the jumpers
may have been set for some really bizaare terminal.  My clone only requires
a three-wire with 6-8-20 jumpered to make my modem do its magic.

Dies ANYONE out there have a jumper layout for this beast?  The PC traces
to the jumper block are not at all obvious, and my familiarity with a
Z-80 DUART is academic at best.

Thank much in advance.

Marc

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Date: 25 Sep 90 06:31:17 GMT
From: ogicse!littlei!intelisc![e-mail]  (Shannon Nelson)
Subject: terminal emulation for kaypro
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Rhonda Gaines) writes:
>I have a Kaypro 2X ...
>

... and she wants to connect to various computers.  The Kaypro screen uses
a superset of the adm3a terminal commands.  In other words, Mex, Kermit and
other modem programs will (should) work fine if you tell your host that you
have an adm3a.  Unfortunately, that is a rather slow and limited set of
commands.  The following termcap and terminfo entries have worked well for
me over the last few years.  They make use of the Kaypro's extra features,
such as insert line, delete line, clear-to-eol, etc.

To use the termcap entry, save it to a file such as /home/me/kaypro.tc.  Now
tell everyone about it by typing
    setenv TERM kaypro; setenv TERMCAP /home/me/kaypro.tc
if you use C-shell.  In Bourne or Korn shell, type
    TERM=kaypro ; TERMCAP=/home/me/kaypro.tc ; export TERM TERMCAP

To use the terminfo entry, save it to a file such as kaypro.ti.  Now, set
your terminfo database to your own directory by typing either
    setenv TERMINFO /home/me
or
    TERMINFO=/home/me ; export TERMINFO
and then compiling the terminfo file with the command "tic /home/me/kaypro.ti".

No, I don't guarantee perfect results, but it usually works for me.

--------------------------- termcap -------------------------------------
#
#        Shannon Nelson
#        7/12/85
#
#
ky|kaypro:am:cr=^M:do=^J:nl=^J:bl=^G:\
    :le=^H:bs:cm=\E=%+ %+ :cl=1^Z:co#80:ho=^^:li#24:ma=^K^P:nd=^L:up=^K:\
    :dl=\ER:al=\EE:\
    :kd=^J:ku=^K:kl=^H:kr=^L:\
    :ce=^X:cd=^W:\
    :dC=3:dT=3:

--------------------------- terminfo ------------------------------------

kaypro,
    am, xon,
    cols#80, lines#24,
    bel=^G, clear=^Z$<1>, cr=\r, cub1=\b, cud1=\n,
    cuf1=\f, cup=\E=%p1%'\s'%+%c%p2%'\s'%+%c, cuu1=^K,
    dl1=\ER, ed=^W, el=^X, home=^^, il1=\EE, ind=\n,
    kcub1=\b, kcud1=\n, kcuf1=\f, kcuu1=^K,
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INFO-CPM Digest             Fri, 28 Sep 90       Volume 90 : Issue  149

Today's Topics:
                        cp/m operation system
                        CPM Companion (2 msgs)
              MAXRom and TEAC FD55 drive 1.2M?? (2 msgs)
                         Sierra Data Sciences
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Date: 26 Sep 90 20:32:01 GMT
From: ingr!ne1300!dog1![e-mail]  (new user)
Subject: cp/m operation system
Message-ID: <baerdj.654381121@dog1>

A friend of mine was given an Osborne one cpu.  The only problem is that
they did not give her the cp/m system disks.  I have called Digital Research
and they told me that they no longer sell the system disks and that my best
bet is to try and find someone that has an osborne and ask them to make
me a set of floppy's and send them to me.

If anyone out there has an osborne that could help, pls let me know.

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Date: 26 Sep 90 09:10:21 GMT
From: pacbell.com!pacbell!ditka!qiclab!techbook![e-mail]  (Frank Zsitvay)
Subject: CPM Companion
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mack Goodman) writes:
>Could someone send me a brief description of what this device
>is, and could it be useful for me.  I have a Northstar Advantage.
>This device is called " CPM Companion 2.2 "  It is a black box
>with a couple of ports on it and a "edge" connector?
>
>Private replys may be most appropriate,  Thanks in advance.
>
>Mack Goodman

  i apologize for this seemingly unseemless thread, but the local
piece of s--t mail system here keeps barfing this mail message back
to me, which really doesn't make a whole lot of sense since we
had this thread going in mail for the past 2 or three cycles.  (i know
it's a local thing because the system barfs the message within 10 seconds
of sending it.)

now, back to the discussion....

when this thread was so rudely interrupt by a flakey mail system,
Mack Goodman wanted to know how to get his Companion (a cp/m 2,2
machine) up and running, mainly because his northstar advantage
didn't know what to do with a soft sectored disk.

---
   well, the companion would be able to read and write soft sectored
disks with no problem, assuming you could find a boot disk for it.
if you can find such a disk, then you would be home free.  just gut the
ns advantage and use it's disk drives for the companion, and term software
on the ns itself.

   whether a system uses hard sector or soft sectored disks is mostly
a function of the controller.   check the controller in the advantage and
see if it uses a 179x or a 765 chip.   if it does, then it's a matter
of software.   if it uses discrete logic, or one of the 177x controller,
then you're out of luck.   i say 179x and 177x meaning the series, as there
is a 1791 and a 1793.  same for the 177x series.  the differences is in the
interface electronics, but both are the same from a software point of
view.

   if you are knowledgable about cp/m and assembly language, you can do
one of two things...  either configure cp/m for the companion, or rewrite
the bios routines in the advantage to allow the use of soft sectored
disks.   and, if you can find a bios listing for a kaypro or other good
cp/m machine, you could hack that until it works.   this is basically
how products like uniform work, they replace those sections of the bios
with code similar to the machine it's trying to emulate the disk format.

   for the advantage, if it uses a 179x controller chip (like most decent
cp/m machines do) then all you would need are the addresses of the controller
ports.   get a bios listing for sometthing like a kaypro, and just change
the addresses in the bios to point to the right place.  do this in ram
with ddt and sysgen it onto a disk, and you would have yourself a boot disk
for any floppy you want.

   for the companion, you would do something similar, except you would have
to find the ports addresses, and since you don't have any docs, that can
be somewhat difficult.  what i would do is open the machine, and look
at the circuit board traces to see what address the controller chip
is located, and go from there.

   once you get a disk system working on the companion, the rest is easy,
since then you could do your system exploring via software on the
machine itself, which is much easier in my opinion from doing it from
circuit board traces.

   where are you located at??  you might be able to find a cp/m machine
cheap, and you wouldn't even need to do some serious hacking to get it
working, either.    unless it is something you like do, which is why
i go through this sort of torture.  (one man's pleasure, another man's
pain...)

   i don't suppose a month goes by where someone offers their cp/m machine
to me for the price of hauling it away.  if you look, you can find some
real bargains out there...


--
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Version 2 of anything is usually the version that works.

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Date: 28 Sep 90 00:26:36 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!ogicse!pdxgate!eecs![e-mail]  (Glenn LeBrasseur)
Subject: CPM Companion
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Don't forget that the old sugart 400's that came with the N* only have
35 tracks, as opposed to 40.
Also the WD1771 only supports single density (and single side). It will of
course handle an 8in floppy such as sugart 800 for a wopping 256KB.

[e-mail]

I can see the future; It's a place about 70 miles east of here...

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Date: 27 Sep 90 01:22:30 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!hellgate.utah.edu!cc.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu![e-mail]  (Roger Ivie)
Subject: MAXRom and TEAC FD55 drive 1.2M??
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Frank Zsitvay) writes:
>
>    Well, in theory you could use a 1.2 meg drive as a 750k drive, but it would
> be a waste of money to do so.

Not if you happen to have a bunch of 1.2 meg drives hanging about... :-)

>    problems with going the 1.2 meg drive route....   the tracks these drives
> write are substantially narrower than even the dsqd drive tracks, to say
> nothing of the dsdd tracks.   also, the write current is also greater.

Not true. 80 tracks is 80 tracks, right? They get the extra capacity by
running at 500 KHz data rate instead of 250 KHz used by dsqd.

The only real problem with using a 1.2 MB drive is that they tend to use
pin 34 as Diskette Changed rather than Drive Ready. This confuses most
CP/M machines. This might be jumperable depending on the drive. The
alternative is to just ground it so the drive always looks ready.
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Date: 28 Sep 90 14:01:43 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!descartes.math.purdue.edu![e-mail]  (Clarence Wilkerson)
Subject: MAXRom and TEAC FD55 drive 1.2M??
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I agree with Roger Ivie. I use the 1.2 meg on an AT to read and write
floppies to
my QD CP/M disks, and it works.

Clarence Wilkerson

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Date: 27 Sep 90 19:08:51 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!mailrus!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast![e-mail]  (Tim Stradtman)
Subject: Sierra Data Sciences
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (mlewis) writes:
>
>I recently acquired a Sierra Data Sciences SBC and system and have a
>teeny tiny problem.  There are two serial ports on teh board, clearly
>marked as to which is a terminal port and which is the printer port.
>The problem is that there is a largish number of jumper points directly
>below the header on the board, which I must assume are there to configure
>the port characteristics.  I have no idea what the jumpers ought to look
>like, and my clone won't talk to it, or vice versa...

The jumpers are setup so that you can swap 2/3 and 4/5, and play around
with 6,8 and 20.  In general, for a modem you want something like:

    o     o     o     o    o    o     o    o     o
        !           !          !          !
        o     o     o     o    o    o     o    o     o

You won't be able to follow the traces without an ohmeter, as some
of them are on the inner layers of the board.  If you want, I
can send you the wiring.  I'd send it now, but I don't remember it
exactly...

I used to work for SDS, and have a complete set of manuals available,
as sell as a working 4 user system.

Hope this helps
Tim

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