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INFO-CPM Digest             Sun,  1 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  123

Today's Topics:
                Help reading TRS80 disks on an IBMPC.
                            MYZ80 ver 1.03
                        Re: 5v out serial port
                           Re: Wordstar 4.0
                            U.S. ftp sites
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Date: 31 Oct 92 15:29:53 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!bert.eecs.uic.edu!uicvm.uic.edu![e-mail]  (Bill Mentink)
Subject: Help reading TRS80 disks on an IBMPC.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Yes, I have just acquired one of these machines.  It reminds of high school.
And the problem is I would like to be able to read and write to the machine
so I can download programs to the machine (I don't have a terminal program,
nothing for the machine.  I haven't yet found anyone locally with the programs
yet (just started), so I am floating my request for help on the net.
Also, what about CPM for the machine (its a ModelIII w/h 64k and the double
drives.)

Thanks a lot,
Bill Mentink

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Date: Sun, 1 Nov 92 18:13:27 EST
From: [e-mail] (Clarence Wilkerson)
Subject: MYZ80 ver 1.03
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

The author has given me permission to distribute this via
anonymous FTP from hopf.math.purdue.edu (128.210.3.19). Other
sites are welcome to pick it up and distribute it also.
It's in the pub/cpm directory.
This is a full demonstration version, to be used only
for non-profit purposes.

The full version with more documentation is available as
shareware from the author and should be obtained if used for
education, software development or other commercial activity.
Here's the .DOC file:




             MicroFast Z80 Emulation Engine code,
                         MYZ80 API,
     and The MYZ80 Emulator Package Versions 1.xx are each:
              Copyright 1991,1992 Simeon Cran.





                            M Y Z 8 0
                            =========

                         by Simeon Cran.

Welcome to MYZ80!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
MYZ80 is a Z80/64180 emulator package. It was written to allow you
to finally get rid of those old Z80 computers which have done so
many fine years of service. The new 80386 machines with the fast
hard drives and the snazzy OS/2 operating systems are such a
delight... but for many, the Z80 machines still have to be fired
up from to time in order to develop code for CP/M and the Z80
chip. Well, not any more, thanks to MYZ80.

Other emulators on the market are less than satisfactory
solutions. Of the small number which can actually run without
causing system errors under the later versions of DOS, apparently
none are capable of running real CP/M. Instead they use an
emulated version of CP/M which is only as accurate as the
developers have bothered to make it.

None can run CP/M 3.0, and none can run ZCPR (which is such a
useful Z80 developer's environment). Add to that their less than
perfect Z80 emulation and slow overall performance, and until
MYZ80, the 'real' Z80 machines were destined to remain in the
office.

MYZ80 provides the solution being conceived, born and nurtured to
the point where it is now the most useful Z80 emulator package
ever!


MYZ80 features.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
MYZ80 emulates the instruction set of the 8080, Z80 and Z180/64180
CPU chips. It does this with the "MicroFast Z80 Emulation Engine"
which is a very highly tuned piece of code designed to be as fast
and as accurate as technically possible on 80286, 80386 and 80486
CPUs.

MYZ80 provides an interface (the MYZ80 API) to the host computer
which allows real Z80 BDOSes to run in the MYZ80 environment. This
interface provides disk and character I/O as well as two banks of
64k RAM (with common area) and a large RAM disk. These unique
features allow MYZ80 to run 'real' CP/M 2.2, CP/M 3.0, Z-System
and ZPM3.

MYZ80 is designed for the latest multitasking operating systems
and makes Z80 programs 'host friendly'. MYZ80 will share time very
fairly with the host. Even multiple instances of MYZ80 are
supported.

MYZ80 can take advantage of the latest computer hardware for
increased performance. The Microfast Z80 Emulation Engine operates
in either 16 (80286) or 32 (80386/80486) bit mode depending on the
capabilities of the host computer.

MYZ80 runs beautifully on IBM AT compatible (or better) computers
under DOS 3.3 compatible (or later) operating systems. This
includes running under OS/2 2.0, Desqview, and Windows 3.x.


Starting MYZ80.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
MYZ80 is started from the DOS command line by simply typing the
name of its executable (CPM). However, advanced users may wish to
include optional arguments on the command line.

The first argument is the name of a boot file to be used instead
of the default (BOOT.CPM), and following arguments are saved by
MYZ80 and may be retrieved from within the MYZ80 environment.

MYZ80 always looks for its support files in the directory it
resides in. Therefore, you may start MYZ80 from any directory or
disk, and it will always find its support files (as long as they
are in the same directory as CPM.EXE).

MYZ80 may be run from a floppy disk (although a hard disk is
recommended). To do so, put CPM.EXE and the support files onto the
floppy disk, and start the program.


Leaving MYZ80.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
There are two ways to exit from the MYZ80 environment. You may
select the 'Abort and exit' choice from the pause box menu, or you
may run the MYZ80 utility QUIT.COM. The latter method also allows
you to specify an error level to return to DOS with (for use in
batch files).


Further information.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Some explanations of the terms used above and further information
will be displayed to you when you start MYZ80 for the first time.
Legal information is provided in the file READ.1ST which was
supplied with this package. All the MYZ80 utilities have online
help. Other support files for MYZ80 should be provided in the
future and will probably be available from the place where you
found this package.


The version of MYZ80 that you have now may not be perfect, but it
is pretty close! It has been released so that as many people as
possible can join the MYZ80 revolution, and keep CP/M and Z80
alive for years to come. Please enjoy it.



Simeon Cran.




     *************************************************************
     Acknowledgments:
     Due to all the great help,  I feel  compelled to  acknowledge
     the support given by a number of people in the "Z" community.
     Especially Bruce Dudley (Sysop of Z-Node 62 in Perth, Western
     Australia), and the handful of crash testers in Australia and
     around  the  world.  And  to  all  those  people   who  truly
     appreciate  the  elegance  of   the  art   of  machine   code
     optimization, please enjoy "MYZ80 by Simeon Cran."
     *************************************************************



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Date: 31 Oct 92 19:43:17 GMT
From: world![e-mail]  (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: 5v out serial port
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Radio Shack sells a little RS-232 tester for under $20 which could show if
your Kaypro is putting out the proper signals.  It's about the size of a
null-modem adapter, with seven two-color LEDs on it.  You can leave it plugged
into the computer for neat-looking blinky lights.  By the way, does your
modem have lights?  Do any of them light up when it's connected to the Kaypro?
It's possible you could have damaged the modem by plugging it into the Amiga
with power on (making a squelching noise?).  You could also damage the Amiga.
If you use the same modem with two computers,  you should get an A/B switch.

Bill Marcum  [e-mail]

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Date: 31 Oct 92 15:30:46 GMT
From: hsdndev!news.cs.umb.edu![e-mail]  (Edward P. Piecewicz)
Subject: Re: Wordstar 4.0
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Curt Schroeder) writes:
>
>Wordstar 4.0 in no longer available from MicroPro, but it can be had from
>a company that Micropro gave distribution rights to.  I don't have the company
>name and address handy (the infor is at home).  Someone else posted the infor
>during the last month or so.  So perhaps that person could post the info
>again for Uwe Nass?

Wordstar 4.0 for the Commodore 128 computers is available from TENEX Computer
Express in Mishawaka, IN.  1-800-PROMPT-1


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Date: 31 Oct 92 15:34:01 GMT
From: hsdndev!news.cs.umb.edu![e-mail]  (Edward P. Piecewicz)
Subject: U.S. ftp sites
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I just subscribed to comp.os.cpm today.  Could someone post a listing of the
known ftp sites in the U.S. where CP/M files can be obtained?

Thank you.


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INFO-CPM Digest             Mon,  2 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  124

Today's Topics:
                         22disk entry wanted
                           Re: CP/M to DOS
                    Re: televideo wordstar eproms
                 Re: What the heck is this thing????
                       small-c 21 won't compile
                         TRS-80 to MSDOS....
          WANTED: Screen Print Enlargement Software for CP/M

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Date: 30 Oct 92 00:33:59 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!aukuni.ac.nz!kcbbs![e-mail]  (Richard Plinston)
Subject: 22disk entry wanted
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    >>> Disk parameters for ICL 35/36 or Quattro

    Put a Quattro discette in the drive. log to it (ie B:<enter>)
    the type SHOW DEVS<enter>.  Physically they are 10 sectors per
    track, 80 track double sided.  36 reserved sectors.

    The Quattro can read/write IBM 360 Kb discs and Altos discs of
    some type.  See the OPTION command.  If IBM 360 can't be selected
    use CONFIG to include PC MODE, reboot and try again.

    Did you not get my earlier message on this ?



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Date: 31 Oct 92 17:05:39 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!math.fu-berlin.de!unidui!Germany.EU.net!news.netmbx.de!zelator![e-mail]  (Mathias Niemz)
Subject: Re: CP/M to DOS
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22dsk from sydex runs fine on my old 386sx but not on my new 486 mashine
(Teac drives).
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Date: 27 Oct 92 03:34:30 GMT
From: van-bc!cs.ubc.ca!utcsri!rpi!uwm.edu!caen!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.unomaha.edu!cwis![e-mail]  (John Winslade)
Subject: Re: televideo wordstar eproms
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"blair groves" <[e-mail]> writes:

>Anybody have one of the WordStar proms that re-defines the TeleVideo
>keyboard on a model 925 or model 950 terminal, or TS-800/803/803H/TPC-I
>computer to fully support WordStar?

I've known of the problems getting the arrow keys to work, but this is the
first I've heard of a new ROM.  Is this a standard issue Telewidget product
or a third-party add on ??

Good day       JSW

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Date: 26 Oct 92 02:25:56 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!metro!ipso!fawlty![e-mail]  (Steve Blanche)
Subject: Re: What the heck is this thing????
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Scott Wilken) writes:
>A friend of mine just bought what he thought was an apple compatable
[deleted bits here]
>chip numbered 6505, and a square chip in a square socket with no lettering
>on it (although a big heat sink is attached, so im thinking this thing myst
>be the CPU).
>
>It wont accept a DOS disk, so im figuring it must be a CPM machine or
>something.
>
>Has anyone seen this?  It was made in 1984 by Wang and has a model number of
>WOA-20.  If anyone has any info on what the heck this is, and what operating
>system it uses, or at least can tell me how to contact Wang, I would be
>very grateful.
Yep, Wang Office Assistant, primarily a dedicated Word Processor, used a
80186 CPU, I repaired those boxes back in '85 -'86  not very exciting,
they did have some packages other than Wordprocessing, incl. spreadsheet and
communications packages, sorry, it didnt support MS-DOS or other 'known'
operating systems. If I remember correctly, the WOA-20 had a 360k floppy
and a WOA-40 incl a 10 MB h/disk  and were sold with a printer eg Diablo.
You could use it for parts, or rip the m/bd out and buy more suitable
m/bd.
>
Steve



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Date: 27 Oct 92 18:09:25 GMT
From: yale.edu!ira.uka.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!ifi![e-mail]  (Weber)
Subject: small-c 21 won't compile
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have tried Small-C 21 from Simtel, but everytime the
compiler aborted with something like disc error on A:,
even if B: was default drive.
Has someone got the same errors ?

Where can I get the docs for this version (yes I know,
in some ancient issue of dr dobbs, but I haven't access
to them and I'd prefer something machine-readable)?

Directory: PD2:<CPM.SMALLC21>
 Filename   Type Length   Date   Description
==============================================
SMC21LIB.LBR  B   62848  850401  Small-C Compiler ver. 2.1 part #3
SMC21OBJ.LBR  B   59776  850401  Small-C Compiler ver. 2.1 part #2
SMC21SRC.LBR  B   58880  850401  Small-C Compiler ver. 2.1 part #1
--

Juergen G. Weber
Student am Institut fuer Informatik
Universitaet Stuttgart - Germany

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 92 19:47:41 EST
From: [e-mail] (Etop Udoh)
Subject: TRS-80 to MSDOS....
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

hi,

   As far as I know, the Model 4/4D/4P will run CP/M without any other
modifications, as opposed to at least the Model III which I'm aware of
which requires a hardware board....forgot who makes it....

   Anyway, theres a program/utility called supercross XT or something
of that nature which allows you to read and write other operating systems
including MSDOS but this runs under the MOdel III operating system and
Model 4 Trsdos.....

   For CP/M, there's a customized CP/M called Montezuma Micro CP/M
which comes with a system configuration program which allows you to read
, write and format different kinds of CP/M disks on your model 4 and it
also takes into consideration what kind of floppy you have, single sided,
double sided, quad density (80 track), etc....
   By the way, this is CP/M 2.2 which is far superior to Radio Shack's
 CP/M 3.0......and also available (don't know where you can find it these
days ) for this CP/M is "Monte's Toolkit" which includes disk formating
and reading utilities, including a virtual file utility for moving files
between CP/M, TRSDOS, or MSDOS.....

  As for the latter program, Supercross XT, I believe there was also an
Ibm/tandy version which allowed you to read TRS-80 disks on a DOS machine...

  The CP/M 2.2 is still currently available from a company somewhere......
the information escapes me at the moment, but I know places that still sell
TRS-80 Software and hardware


   current updated stuff available for this defunct line of computers are:

  mouse
  3 1/2" floppies
  realtime clocks
  conversion for gif files to TRS-80 high res-graphics board format
  mouse to keyboard interface
  mouse drivers...
  external drive modification using the 50 pin rear connector


  I myself have (my original computer), a TRS-80 4P, non-gate array,
 128k, high-res graphics card, and other hardware modifications...

  As far as communications programs, there's quite a bit in public
domain, including XModem and Kermit standalone programs....

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Date: 29 Oct 92 17:30:18 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx![e-mail]  (The Monster of Peladon)
Subject: WANTED: Screen Print Enlargement Software for CP/M
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Greetings:

    I'm looking for a program in CP/M, which will enlarge letters on the
monitor screen.  I currently use a Morrow MD-3.  If anyone out there knows of
such a thing, I'd be interested in receiving email about it.  Thanks very much
in advance.


                Regards,
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INFO-CPM Digest             Tue,  3 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  125

Today's Topics:
               Chris Rutowski -- Rising Star Industries
                        Kermit for Cromemco's
                       Re: 22disk entry wanted
                        Re: Kaypro 4 keyboard
                            What is MYZ80?
                         ZMODEM for CP/M ???

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Date: 27 Oct 92 19:47:35 GMT
From: concert!glv![e-mail]  (Richard Carpenter)
Subject: Chris Rutowski -- Rising Star Industries
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Does anyone know of Chris Rutowski or Rising Star Industries? They
wrote all the Valdocs software that ran on TPM on the Epson QX-10
around 1984, then went bust because Epson screwed them.

I would like to have his mailing address.

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Date: 2 Nov 92 13:39:32 GMT
From: ub!galileo.cc.rochester.edu!ee.rochester.edu![e-mail]  (Bob Kaser)
Subject: Kermit for Cromemco's
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi all.

We have a few Cromemco CS-1 computers running CDOS/CPM and some local, 10
year old, communications software.  The University has changed the
communications structure and this software is now flaky at best.  We
would like to run some version of kermit so that atleast we have standard
software and documentation as to its functionality.

These Cromemco computers only have floppy drives and serial ports so
thatwe are limited how we can obtain software.  When I contacted
Columbia they could ship us the version for our machine but not on media
that we can use.

My question is, does any one have kermit for a cromemco CS-1 that I can
get/buy/whatever on a 5 1/4 inch floppy?  Any other suggestions would
greatly be appreciated also.


Bob Kaser
System Programmer
Univ of Rochester
Dept of Elect. Eng.

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Date: 2 Nov 92 07:48:41 GMT
From: newsflash.concordia.ca!ccu.umanitoba.ca!mizar.cc.umanitoba.ca![e-mail]  (Dan Fandrich)
Subject: Re: 22disk entry wanted
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Alan Knowles) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Adriaan de Groot) writes:
>|> SO -- could I ask someone (all eight of you?)
>|> to Email me the relevant chunk of the file --
>|> the disk parameters for an ICL model 35/36 or
>|> an ICL Quattro (dunno if that's in the list) --
>|> then, heck, I'd be eternally grateful.
>
>I think you might have a little trouble with the ICL Quattro.
>I vaguely remember when I tried it that the number of reserved tracks was
>not an integer, so the directory started partway into a track. No software
>I could find could cope with this.

This can be handled with 22DISK, at least version 1.30 or better; use
the SOFS parameter instead of OFS.  From the manual:

       SOFS  indicates the number of sectors that are  used  for  storing
            the  CP/M  system  and  BIOS at the beginning of a diskette.
            SOFS is used when the number of sectors used by the CP/M  is
            not  an  integral  number of tracks,  such as for the Coleco
            Adam.

>>> Dan
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Date: 2 Nov 92 15:27:06 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!hri.com!noc.near.net!bigboote.WPI.EDU!wpi.WPI.EDU![e-mail]  (Louis J. Curran Jr)
Subject: Re: Kaypro 4 keyboard
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Rogers George) writes:
>
>I discovered I don't have a working keyboard cable!
>
>The K-4 keyboard conection is a 4-position modular. I tried an old terminal
>(vt220 I think) keyboard cable I had laying around, then hacked it so the pins
>were straight through (pin 1 to 1, etc., UNlike telephone handset cords) and
>tried again. No go.
>
>What are the pin assignments for this puppy? Is just one* of the pairs
>reversed? are the inside and outside pairs swapped somewhere along the line?
>Did I fry my keyboard on the first try? (if so, what did I fry? can I fix it?
>does a kb like this exist anywhere else in creation?)
>

All Kaypro CPM machines use the telephone cable. You can use or borrow the
cable from any telephone handset. If your machine is dysfunctional, the
problem lies elsewhere.

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Date: 27 Oct 92 22:04:54 GMT
From: comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!naos![e-mail]  (Ewen McNeill)
Subject: What is MYZ80?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I've received a number of email messages asking what MyZ80 is, and what
it does.  I didn't post this in my last message because there had been
some discussion recently.  To answer the question, here's a bit of the
documentation file...

--- cut here --- cut here --- cut here ---
                            M Y Z 8 0
                            =========

                         by Simeon Cran.

Welcome to MYZ80!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
MYZ80 is a Z80/64180 emulator package. It was written to allow you
to finally get rid of those old Z80 computers which have done so
many fine years of service. The new 80386 machines with the fast
hard drives and the snazzy OS/2 operating systems are such a
delight... but for many, the Z80 machines still have to be fired
up from to time in order to develop code for CP/M and the Z80
chip. Well, not any more, thanks to MYZ80.

Other emulators on the market are less than satisfactory
solutions. Of the small number which can actually run without
causing system errors under the later versions of DOS, apparently
none are capable of running real CP/M. Instead they use an
emulated version of CP/M which is only as accurate as the
developers have bothered to make it.

None can run CP/M 3.0, and none can run ZCPR (which is such a
useful Z80 developer's environment). Add to that their less than
perfect Z80 emulation and slow overall performance, and until
MYZ80, the 'real' Z80 machines were destined to remain in the
office.

MYZ80 provides the solution being conceived, born and nurtured to
the point where it is now the most useful Z80 emulator package
ever!

MYZ80 features.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
MYZ80 emulates the instruction set of the 8080, Z80 and Z180/64180
CPU chips. It does this with the "MicroFast Z80 Emulation Engine"
which is a very highly tuned piece of code designed to be as fast
and as accurate as technically possible on 80286, 80386 and 80486
CPUs.

MYZ80 provides an interface (the MYZ80 API) to the host computer
which allows real Z80 BDOSes to run in the MYZ80 environment. This
interface provides disk and character I/O as well as two banks of
64k RAM (with common area) and a large RAM disk. These unique
features allow MYZ80 to run 'real' CP/M 2.2, CP/M 3.0, Z-System
and ZPM3.

MYZ80 is designed for the latest multitasking operating systems
and makes Z80 programs 'host friendly'. MYZ80 will share time very
fairly with the host. Even multiple instances of MYZ80 are
supported.

MYZ80 can take advantage of the latest computer hardware for
increased performance. The Microfast Z80 Emulation Engine operates
in either 16 (80286) or 32 (80386/80486) bit mode depending on the
capabilities of the host computer.

MYZ80 runs beautifully on IBM AT compatible (or better) computers
under DOS 3.3 compatible (or later) operating systems. This
includes running under OS/2 2.0, Desqview, and Windows 3.x.
--- cut here --- cut here --- cut here ---

And a little bit detailing the system requirements, from the readme
file.

--- cut here --- cut here --- cut here ---
                       System Requirements.
                       ====================

For MYZ80 to work at all it needs:
IBM AT compatible (or better)
300k free RAM
DOS 3.3 or later
Disk drive

MYZ80 can also make good use of the following system  resources if
available (None of these is required to get  good performance  out
of MYZ80):
Hard disk drive
More than 300k free RAM
DOS 5.00
XMS memory
Multi-tasker (such as OS/2 2.x, Desqview or Windows 3.x)
32 bit CPU (80386,80486)
--- cut here --- cut here --- cut here ---

MyZ80 does meet it's claims, at least for me.  I'm running it on a
286/10, and the emulated environment is almost as fast as a 3/4Mhz Z80
running native.  On a faster machine, it'd be amazing to use.

To repeat the bit from the previous post; the latest version of MyZ80 is
version 1.03.  I've received several "where can I get it requests".
Because the only site I know that it is definitely on is a long way off
the net and pays for all traffic both incomming and outgoing, I don't
want to post the site address.  Please if I've emailed you the address
and you've retrieved it, would you _please_ upload it to some of the
bigger archive sites (could someone post a message when they've uploaded
it to Simtel, eg).  Thank you.

--
Ewen McNeill, [e-mail] (or [e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: 2 Nov 92 08:55:22 GMT
From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!cc.tut.fi![e-mail]  (Kentt{l{ Marko)
Subject: ZMODEM for CP/M ???
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi there !

I'd like to have ZMODEM documentation or source (ZMP doesn't come with source)
so if any of you have it, just E-mail it to [e-mail], please.
JMODEM would be even better...

Thanks.


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INFO-CPM Digest             Wed,  4 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  126

Today's Topics:
                       Re: 22disk entry wanted
                        Re: 5v out serial port
                       Re: ZMODEM for CP/M ???
                      televideo wordstar eproms
                           TRS80 and MS-DOS
                            WHAT IS MYZ80?

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Date: 27 Oct 92 15:03:52 GMT
From: yale.edu!jvnc.net!gmd.de!Germany.EU.net!mcsun!uknet!mucs![e-mail]  (Alan Knowles)
Subject: Re: 22disk entry wanted
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Adriaan de Groot) writes:
|> A while back I asked about copying files
|> from CP/M to MSDOS, and eight of you wrote
|> back 'use 22disk,' so I ftped it from
|> Berlin, and it's great. Thanks y'all.
|>
|> SO -- could I ask someone (all eight of you?)
|> to Email me the relevant chunk of the file --
|> the disk parameters for an ICL model 35/36 or
|> an ICL Quattro (dunno if that's in the list) --
|> then, heck, I'd be eternally grateful.

I think you might have a little trouble with the ICL Quattro.
I vaguely remember when I tried it that the number of reserved tracks was
not an integer, so the directory started partway into a track. No software
I could find could cope with this.



===========================================================================
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The University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL, UK

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Date: 2 Nov 92 16:34:20 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu![e-mail]  (CP/M lives!)
Subject: Re: 5v out serial port
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>     I have a Hayes compatible modem which, when I plug it into my Amiga,
> makes a sort of "squelch", indicating that the serial is supplying it with
> eliectricity.  It does no such thing when I plug it into the Kaypro, and,
> not surprisingly, does not respond to Hayes-commands (ATH0, etc.).  It just
> sits there.
>     Parting from this, I'll rephrase my original question:
>
>     IS the +/- 9v output in the Kaypro a sufficient standard to assume
> that my Amiga puts out the same quantity?  If this is so, then the serial
> on the Kaypro IS damaged, as the modem receives no power.

Modems are not supposed to be _powered_ from the serial port. The Amiga does
provide +12V power for external devices, but this is not _standard_ behavior.
The only thing modems are supposed to take from the serial port are modem
signals.
--

Roger Ivie                      "My God! That computer is full of Pentium!
[e-mail]                  It's a wonder that you haven't been turned
                                 into mutants!"

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Date: 2 Nov 92 20:25:03 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!ogicse!news.u.washington.edu!glia![e-mail]  (Jeff Foy)
Subject: Re: ZMODEM for CP/M ???
Message-ID: <jfoy.720735903@glia>

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kentt{l{ Marko) writes:


>Hi there !

>I'd like to have ZMODEM documentation or source (ZMP doesn't come with source)
>so if any of you have it, just E-mail it to [e-mail], please.
>JMODEM would be even better...

You should check out HMODEM-II which ZMP and RZMP were based upon. It
comes with source in C. As to Jmodem, source has always been available
for that one. Both in C and in ASM.

--
Jeffery Foy -- [e-mail]
             *** FREE BILL & KATHY SWAN ***
-*- Happy as a clam to be using Professional YAM -*-  :)

------------------------------

Date: 27 Oct 92 22:04:45 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (blair groves)
Subject: televideo wordstar eproms
Message-ID: <1992Oct27.4443.3074@dosgate>

-> >Anybody have one of the WordStar proms that re-defines the TeleVideo
-> >keyboard on a model 925 or model 950 terminal, or
-> TS-800/803/803H/TPC-I >computer to fully support WordStar?

(John Winslade writes:)
->
-> I've known of the problems getting the arrow keys to work, but this
-> is the first I've heard of a new ROM.  Is this a standard issue
-> Telewidget product or a third-party add on ??

This was not very widely spread, but I once knew a fellow that had this
eprom on his TS-803... it even came with special key caps. The product
was a third-party add-on.

Also, related info: there was a product from Digital Engineering in
Sacramento, [phone] that gave the TeleVideo 910, 912, 920, 925
and 950 Tektronix 4027 and 4010 emulation... also Selanar Graphics in
Santa Clara, [phone] offered a similar product.

Sorry to say that I can't tell you who had the WordStar modification for
these units though.

BTW, WordStar has no problem with these terminals, except that the
control commands are different than produced by the editing keys, so you
have to use the ctrl-key, as per normal for WordStar on most machines.

[e-mail]
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 92 11:11:30 GMT
From: Christopher Currie <[e-mail]>
Subject: TRS80 and MS-DOS
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

>>
>Date: Mon, 2 Nov 92 19:47:41 EST
>From: [e-mail] (Etop Udoh)
>Subject: TRS-80 to MSDOS....
>Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>
>hi,
>
>   As far as I know, the Model 4/4D/4P will run CP/M without any other
>modifications,

Yes, it will.

> as opposed to at least the Model III which I'm aware of
>which requires a hardware board....forgot who makes it....

There were boards made by Memory Merchant (Shuffleboard), Holmes,
and Omikron (the Mapper).
>
>   Anyway, theres a program/utility called supercross XT or something
>of that nature which allows you to read and write other operating systems
>including MSDOS but this runs under the MOdel III operating system and
>Model 4 Trsdos.....
>
>
There is also PC-CRoss-Zap, which runs under MS-DOS on the PC, and
is supplied by Hypersoft at:

    PO Box 51155, Raleigh, NC 27609 USA

They also make Hypercross which runs on the Model III and allows
you to read-write, under TRS-80 operating systems, PC and CP/M
disks.

>   For CP/M, there's a customized CP/M called Montezuma Micro
CP/M

>   By the way, this is CP/M 2.2 which is far superior to Radio Shack's
> CP/M 3.0......and also available (don't know where you can find it these
>days ) for this CP/M is "Monte's Toolkit" which includes disk formating
>and reading utilities, including a virtual file utility for moving files
>between CP/M, TRSDOS, or MSDOS.....
>
They also did Monte's Window, a TSR with notepad, calculator,
calendar, etc.

There are memory-mapped versions of some software, e.g. Wordstar
3.3, around for the Model 4.

>   current updated stuff available for this defunct line of computers are:
>
... goodies deleted...

>  external drive modification using the 50 pin rear connector

You shouldn't need a mod for the Model III, which is built to take
two internal and two external drives. It's the Model 4P that has
to be modified to take more than two drives.

Christopher Currie

[e-mail]

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Date: 2 Nov 92 20:20:00 GMT
From: decvax!bville.gts.org![e-mail] (Greg Vigneault)
Subject: WHAT IS MYZ80?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

 In message-ID: <[e-mail]>
 Subj: What is MYZ80?
 [e-mail] (Ewen McNeill) writes...

EM> To repeat the bit from the previous post; the latest version of
  > MyZ80 is version 1.03.  I've received several "where can I get it
  > requests". Because the only site I know that it is definitely on
  > is a long way off the net and pays for all traffic both incomming
  > and outgoing, I don't want to post the site address.

 In the Toronto, Canada, area it can be found (MYZ80103.ZIP, 75k)
 on Baudeville BBS at [phone].  Go through the call-back
 verification to get download access.

 Greg Vigneault

 Nov.02.1992.Toronto.Canada.
 [e-mail]


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Date: Fri,  6 Nov 92 23:45:09 MST
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INFO-CPM Digest             Fri,  6 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  127

Today's Topics:
                        CP/M emulator for MAC?
       Forward-chaining, Rete-type, OPS5 languages under CP/M ?
                      Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy !!!
                            PD C Compiler?
                        Re: 5v out serial port
              Re: Help reading TRS80 disks on an IBMPC.
                          Re: PD C Compiler?
                   Re: Turbo Pascal for a Kaypro II
                                vixen

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Date: 3 Nov 92 23:53:18 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!europa.asd.contel.com!paladin.american.edu!news.univie.ac.at!hp4at!mcsun!sunic!corax.udac.uu.se!tdb![e-mail]  (Mikael Kristoffersson)
Subject: CP/M emulator for MAC?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello CP/M world and lovers!

Does anyone know if there is a CP/M emulator for the Macintosh?
Or maybe any source-code to port? I would like to hear about it
if there is...

All I have seen so far is for MS/DOS or UNIX.

I do got a swedish CP/P comuter called JET-80, but my desk-top
is not large enough for the MAC QUADRA and the JET-80 :-(

I hope there is a solution to this...


********************************************************************************
Mikael Kristoffersson,                           E-mail [e-mail]
Uppsala, SWEDEN

------------------------------

Date: 2 Nov 92 18:59:38 GMT
From: pa.dec.com!sousa.ltn.dec.com!kxovax.enet.dec.com![e-mail]  (Strong datatypes for weak minds.)
Subject: Forward-chaining, Rete-type, OPS5 languages under CP/M ?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

    Anybody seen an OPS5-like language under CP/M and/or something
    somebody did under XLISP perhaps ?  One was produced years ago
    for CP/M but I haven't been able to find anyone who still has
    it.

    Regards,
    rcs

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 10:19:50 CST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy !!!

I now have MYZ80 (demo) up and running and am very happy.  However I got off
SIMTEL the Forth programming language package Uniforth and got it to give
myz80 trouble.  When I went to edit a screen I was given a invalide instruction
error.  I don't have it were with me so I can't give you the code.  I hope this
helps in futher revisions of myz80.  I love my old ADAM CP/M but I have to face
the facts; myz80 is faster (about 5X or better) on my 486 33Mhz, and is easier
to use as far as transportability goes.  I will still fire up my ADAM but out
of respect for the years it carried me through college.  I used Uniforth for
years with no problems on my ADAM and if this problem gets fixed I will
register asap.  Thank you MYZ80-master!!!

*******************************************************************************
*     C makes you think C is the worlds greatest programming language.        *
*       Forth makes you think your the worlds greatest programmer!            *
*******************************************************************************
*   Internet: [e-mail] * John A. Maier, Student of        *
*   Bitnet  : C588212@mizzou1              * Electrical Engineering at UMC    *
*******************************************************************************

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Date: 2 Nov 92 16:59:22 GMT
From: sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!torn!utzoo!censor!geac!alias!afc![e-mail]  (Andy Hunt)
Subject: PD C Compiler?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

(oops -- had a small problem there, lets try again:)

Hi, I'm looking for a reasonable C compiler for my old MAX-80.
Either a native compiler, or a cross compiler that I can
run under Unix.  Is there anything available?

Is there anyone else out there who has a MAX-80 from Lobo Systems?

Thanks!

/\ndy

Andy Hunt                      Work: [e-mail]
Sr. Software Designer          Home: [e-mail]
Alias Research                 // Cry Havoc, and let slip the Dogs of War.

------------------------------

Date: 30 Oct 92 15:23:51 GMT
From: destroyer!caen!nic.umass.edu!hamp.hampshire.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Re: 5v out serial port
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bruce H. McIntosh) writes:
> In article <[e-mail]>
> [e-mail] writes:

>>Anybody had their serial port NOT put out the 5 volts it's supposed to?
>>Anybody care to take a guess at how diffucult it would be to fix?
>
> If your serial port is a real, live RS232 (RS232 standard - there's a front
> runner for oxymoron of the month! :-) ), it is NOT supposed to put out 5vdc!
> RS232 works with a voltage swing of +/- 9vdc.
>
    Well, the "5 volts" was supplied by a friend of mine who may or may
not know what he's talking about, but certainly knows more than me.  What I
meant to say is that, whatever the voltage is, it's not putting out the right
kind of juice.
    I have a Hayes compatible modem which, when I plug it into my Amiga,
makes a sort of "squelch", indicating that the serial is supplying it with
eliectricity.  It does no such thing when I plug it into the Kaypro, and,
not surprisingly, does not respond to Hayes-commands (ATH0, etc.).  It just
sits there.
    Parting from this, I'll rephrase my original question:

    IS the +/- 9v output in the Kaypro a sufficient standard to assume
that my Amiga puts out the same quantity?  If this is so, then the serial
on the Kaypro IS damaged, as the modem receives no power.

    You've probably noticed by now that I don't have a voltage meter.
I know it's gauche to use a hayes-comp. as a meter (or LED) for my serial
ports, but hey...  :-)

                [e-mail]

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Date: 3 Nov 92 21:25:31 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!news.belwue.de!math.fu-berlin.de!mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news.netmbx.de!zelator![e-mail]  (Mathias Niemz)
Subject: Re: Help reading TRS80 disks on an IBMPC.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Watch out with some Tandy mashines. They have a strange CP/M starting
at 4000h (Pickels & Throut or so ????)
--
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E-Mail:        CompuServe: 76206,3341
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 When all else fails, read the instructions...

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Date: 4 Nov 92 02:05:06 GMT
From: access.usask.ca!ccu.umanitoba.ca!mizar.cc.umanitoba.ca![e-mail]  (Dan Fandrich)
Subject: Re: PD C Compiler?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Andy Hunt) writes:
>Hi, I'm looking for a reasonable C compiler for my old MAX-80.
>Either a native compiler, or a cross compiler that I can
>run under Unix.  Is there anything available?

Two public domain C compilers I know of are Small-C (the DDJ version), and
Micro-C.  Small-C is available at SIMTEL-20 (in the CPM.SMALLC21 directory)
and I forget where I got Micro-C (look for MC132 with archie).  I do know
the version I ftp'd had a critical file corrupted so it was useless for
Z80 code.  If I find a good version I'll post a note here.

>>> Dan
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Date: 29 Oct 92 04:14:23 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!scd.hp.com!hpscdm!hplextra!hpcss01!hpergfg2!hprdash!hprnd![e-mail]  (Greg Holdren)
Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal for a Kaypro II
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

  Sage Microsystems East:
  1435 Centre St.
  Newton Centre, MA 02159-2469
  [phone] Voice 9-11AM
  [phone] BSS

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Date: 30 Oct 92 18:54:24 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![barry.ross%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (barry ross)
Subject: vixen
Message-ID: <1992Oct30.4443.3086@dosgate>

I  am presently looking for two second hand Vixen  computers  for
sale.  Any leads?
---
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Date: Sun,  8 Nov 92 07:45:18 MST
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INFO-CPM Digest             Sun,  8 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  128

Today's Topics:
                                MIX C
     MYZ80103.ZIP - Simeon Cran's Z80 CP/M and Z-System emulator
                            PD C compiler?
                        Re: 5v out serial port
                  Re: I just got a Z80 CP/M (2 msgs)
                      Re: Missing DataStar file
                                vixen

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Date: 7 Nov 92 12:38:52 GMT
From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!psinntp!psinntp!blkbox![e-mail]  (Blake Scruggs)
Subject: MIX C
Message-ID: <1992Nov07.123852.25213@blkbox>

If * Anyone * has "MIX C" and would like to sell it, I would be interested
From what I understand, It's a CP/M based cross compiler for "C".
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 02:51:40 EST
From: "Paul V. Pullen"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: MYZ80103.ZIP - Simeon Cran's Z80 CP/M and Z-System emulator
Summary: Reposted by Keith Petersen
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have uploaded to WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil:

pd1:<msdos.emulators>
MYZ80103.ZIP    Simeon Cran's Z80 CP/M and Z-System emulator

Simeon Cran created MYZ80 for operations on AT-class machines.  It will run
both CP/M and Z-System programs.  It is designed to run on an 80x86 processor,
and apparently will run both CP/M version 2.2 and 3.0.  Ewen McNeill had a
glowing report on MYZ80 in issue 125, Volume 92 of the INFO-CPM Digest.

paul pullen
- -
Paul V. Pullen
U. S. Army Chemical Research, Development & Engineering Center
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Comm 1-410-671-2519                              [e-mail]

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Date: 2 Nov 92 15:41:48 GMT
From: casey!gaboon!afc![e-mail]  (Usenet News Feed)
Subject: PD C compiler?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi, I'm looking for a reasonable C compiler for my old MAX-80.
Either a native compiler, or a cross compiler that I can
run under Unix.  Is there anything available?

Is there anyone else out there who has a MAX-80 from Lobo Systems?

Thanks!

/\ndy

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Date: 30 Oct 92 17:41:23 GMT
From: sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!The-Star.honeywell.com!umn.edu!noc.msc.net!uc.msc.edu!shamash!timbuk.cray.com!hemlock.cray.com![e-mail].  (Otto Tennant)
Subject: Re: 5v out serial port
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

The RS-232 standard, defines a "mark" as a voltage between +3V and
+12V; a "space" as a voltage between -12V and -3V (or, just possibly,
the other way around.)  (And just maybe 15V, not 12V?)  Notice that 0V
doesn't "mean" anything.

However, folks noticed that 0V and +5V would "operate" many modems,
even though it shouldn't.

If you are seeing 0V and +5V, you are probably trying to plug directly
into the UART, which is maybe not the best thing in the world to do;
it was intended that there be some sort of line driver between the
UART and the rest of the world.  I would not care to guess what
happens to one of those chips if it is connected to a modem which
applies -12V to the input.
--
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Cray Research, Inc.              Virgil                          [phone]
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Date: 5 Nov 92 21:58:13 GMT
From: pipex!demon!skewsby.demon.co.uk![e-mail]  (Simon J Hopkins)
Subject: Re: I just got a Z80 CP/M
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Adrian Silveanu) writes:

> Hello !
> I just got a Z80 CP/M computer from a friend.
> I has a to floppy drives. Comes with a system disk, and a copy of
> WordStar. Well it was interest messing around with this computer, and
> now I want to know more!
>
> This is what I would like to find out:
>
> Where there ever any CP/M computers with a moniter other than mono?
>
> Could somebody tell me where I can find games and other programs for this
> thing? FTP's?
>
> Is the the CP/M Market dead?
>
> Does anybody have a CP/M system manual on file?
>
> Well that is about it for now, thanks!
>
> Adrian Silveanu
> [e-mail]
>
> P.S. Could you please send all your answers to my E-Mail address, because
>      I do not usually read this news group.
>
> P.P.S. Oh yes! One more thing. Is it possible to network my CP/M Computer
>     to my IBM? Through the serial port?
>
>
>
>

Read this one with interest, in the UK the Amstrad PCW range (CP/M based) still
selling well. Magazines still published to support it, together with huge range of application software and GAMES.

I don't have one myself, although do still own a CP/M machine, that also runs
UNPLUS System III Unix on a 68000 co-processor board.

Hope this of interest, if you would like details of the magazine then drop me
a note and I will get them from newsagent next time i visit.


Simon J Hopkins
Deepdale
Skewsby
York
YO6 4SG
[phone]

[e-mail]
Radio - G8PXB

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Date: 5 Nov 92 15:30:10 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!malgudi.oar.net!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu![e-mail]  (CP/M lives!)
Subject: Re: I just got a Z80 CP/M
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Adrian Silveanu) writes:
> Where there ever any CP/M computers with a moniter other than mono?

I think NEC built one. And then there's the MSX crowd in Japan (although
a Japanese foreign-exchange student just laughed when I mentioned MSX). I've
also seen a color Sony machine.

> Is the the CP/M Market dead?

If, by dead, you mean not covered by the mainstream press, yes. If, by dead,
you mean that nothing is available, no. If, by dead, you mean no one is doing
anything with it, no.
>
> P.P.S. Oh yes! One more thing. Is it possible to network my CP/M Computer
>     to my IBM? Through the serial port?

Speaking of which, does anyone have manuals for CP/NET? I'm interested
in the System Alteration Guide.
--

Roger Ivie                      "My God! That computer is full of Pentium!
[e-mail]                  It's a wonder that you haven't been turned
                                 into mutants!"

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Date: 27 Oct 92 17:08:08 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!scd.hp.com!hpscdm!icon.rose.hp.com![e-mail]  (Bill Hooper)
Subject: Re: Missing DataStar file
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Many thanks to all those who provided me with the BATCH.COM file. I now
have a working DataStar.

--
Bill Hooper
Hewlett Packard
Systems Technology Division, Systems Interface Lab
[e-mail]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: 7 Nov 92 17:44:23 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!yale.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![barry.ross%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (barry ross)
Subject: vixen
Message-ID: <1992Nov7.4443.3112@dosgate>

Have  you  got  one for sale? If it is just sitting  on  a  shelf
collecting  dust  you may wish to sell it,  before  it  de-values
anymore.
---
 ~ DeLuxe} 1.12 #10554 ~ Now using Qmail DeLuxe}...and loving it!
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
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INFO-CPM Digest             Tue, 10 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  129

Today's Topics:
                              Altos 580
                        I just got a Z80 CP/M
                          KAYPRO 10 FOR SALE
                             msdos to cpm
                  Re: I just got a Z80 CP/M (2 msgs)
                              Re: MIX C
                           small c problem

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Date: 5 Nov 92 18:30:13 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!torn!nott!cunews!revcan!cerianthus!pinetree![e-mail]  (garth jones)
Subject: Altos 580
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am look for an Os for an Altos 580, Like Cp/M 2.2, Cp/M 3.0, Mp/M, or
any other that will run Altos 580.
        Garth

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Date: 4 Nov 92 22:46:05 GMT
From: uchinews!uhuru.uchicago.edu![e-mail]  (Adrian Silveanu)
Subject: I just got a Z80 CP/M
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello !
I just got a Z80 CP/M computer from a friend.
I has a to floppy drives. Comes with a system disk, and a copy of
WordStar. Well it was interest messing around with this computer, and
now I want to know more!

This is what I would like to find out:

Where there ever any CP/M computers with a moniter other than mono?

Could somebody tell me where I can find games and other programs for this
thing? FTP's?

Is the the CP/M Market dead?

Does anybody have a CP/M system manual on file?

Well that is about it for now, thanks!

Adrian Silveanu
[e-mail]

P.S. Could you please send all your answers to my E-Mail address, because
     I do not usually read this news group.

P.P.S. Oh yes! One more thing. Is it possible to network my CP/M Computer
    to my IBM? Through the serial port?

------------------------------

Date: 4 Nov 92 21:25:00 GMT
From: saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!ogicse!adaptive![e-mail]  (Casey Bahr)
Subject: KAYPRO 10 FOR SALE
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

The subject line about sums it up, a Kaypro with one 10MB HD
and a 5.25" DSDD.  In excellent working condition.  $200 plus
COD shipping in the USA (or best offer, of course!).  Selling
because I'm upgrading to a Mac (Please, no flames from you
dedicated CP/M'rs :) )

Also comes with a handsome carrying cover, and tons of software
and manuals.  All the standard Kaypro software: Perfect Writer,
Perfect Filer, WordStar, DataStar, ReportStar, etc., etc.  Plus
I have nearly two shoeboxes full of floppies with games, accounting
programs, communications software, you name it.  There's manuals
for just about all of it, too!  A large portion of this software is
already loaded on the hard disk.

Casey Bahr
[e-mail] | ogicse!adaptive!casey | uunet!adaptive!casey
Adaptive Solutions, Inc., 1400 NW Compton Dr. Suite 340, Beaverton, OR 97006
VOICE: [phone] /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ FAX: [phone]

P.S. I'm sorry, I can't honor requests for any software I have, I just
don't have the time to do that.  Buy the machine and get it all!

------------------------------

Date: 9 Nov 92 01:49:00 GMT
From: tamsun.tamu.edu!zeus.tamu.edu![e-mail]  (ECKHARDT, JASON LEE)
Subject: msdos to cpm
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Anyone out there know of program that runs under msdos that will write cpm
disks? (on trs-80 model 4).

thanks, jason.   [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 6 Nov 92 00:46:18 GMT
From: phoenix.Princeton.EDU![e-mail]  (Michael John Neufeld)
Subject: Re: I just got a Z80 CP/M
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (CP/M lives!) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Adrian Silveanu) writes:
>> Where there ever any CP/M computers with a moniter other than mono?
>
>I think NEC built one. And then there's the MSX crowd in Japan (although
>a Japanese foreign-exchange student just laughed when I mentioned MSX). I've
>also seen a color Sony machine.

I remember seeing ads for graphics boards running on the S-100 bus, and
thus usable by a Z-80 board on the bus running CP/M.  The only company
name I can think of right now is Cromeco.  Ahhh!  Back in the good old
days - when power supplies doubled as arc welders, and portable meant
that you could transport the computer without having to use a truck. (-:

-Mike

--
*****************
Michael Neufeld - Princeton University, Computer Science Dept.
Internet e-mail: [e-mail]
Die Leichen im Keller ruehren sich immer wieder...

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Date: 6 Nov 92 17:16:43 GMT
From: mentor.cc.purdue.edu!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!ea.ecn.purdue.edu![e-mail]  (Jeffrey J Wieland)
Subject: Re: I just got a Z80 CP/M
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael John Neufeld) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (CP/M lives!) writes:
>>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Adrian Silveanu) writes:
>>> Where there ever any CP/M computers with a moniter other than mono?
>>

There was a color graphics board for CP/M Kaypros -- I know -- I have
one that I bought from one of the engineers that designed it.  It was
made by MicroSphere.  It uses the Texas Instruments TI-9918A chip,
which gives 256x192 resolution, 16 colors and 32 sprites.  This is the
same chip that a lot of game machines and early micro computers used,
like the Texas Instruments TI99.

I had started writing a set of procedures for it with Turbo Modula 2,
but I have not found the time to finish it.

I also remember reading about a color graphics board that plugged into
a standard Centronics parallel port, so you drive it from virtually any
computer.  I think I saw this back in '86 or '87.  I don't remember
what company made it.
--
                Jeffrey J. Wieland
              Communication Systems Programmer
                Agricultural Computer Network

    INTERNET: [e-mail]        ENTM 216
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Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 17:20:58 IST
From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MIX C

MIX-C was manufactured and sold by MIX Software, Richardson, Texas,
1-800-333-0330, for about 20$, with a 300 hundred pages documentation
included. Yes I am definitely talking about MIX-C for CP/M-80. No I am not
talking about Power-C for MESSDOSS which they continuously advertise (Ok, I
own, use and warmly praise both).
I will be glad to sell my CP/M-80 copy for 100$ or  more if and only if:
a) MIX C stills sells it and for 20$.
b) MIX C explicitly agrees with that deal.
In spite of the induced headache, I would certainly do that for any colleague
in search of a copy about as old as her/his computer .... ,-}

If and only if MIX Software or their legal representatives issue a clear and
unambiguous statement of complete loss of interest, I will gladly upload
my copy for public usage. The documentation will remain a problem.

Jacques Goldberg - [e-mail]  , two ZEROES in phr00jg

------------------------------

Date: 8 Nov 92 06:47:00 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!tamsun.tamu.edu!zeus.tamu.edu![e-mail]  (ECKHARDT, JASON LEE)
Subject: small c problem
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I just got smallc21 and it seems that I can't use the "%f" conversion
specifier with this compiler?!  Is this not built in this version or am
I supposed to include something? If this is a deficiency, is there another
pd compiler available with a full 'c' implementation? (ansi would be great).

jason.

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10-Nov-92 18:45:53-MST,10097;000000000000
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 18:45:20 MST
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INFO-CPM Digest             Tue, 10 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  130

Today's Topics:
                          Kaypro 10 For Sale
                     Looking for kermit for a cpm
                             myz80 query
                   Osbourne Kermit/Software Wanted
                            PD C compiler?
                      Re: CP/M emulator for MAC?
                           Re: msdos to cpm
                         Re: small C problem.
                       Re: TURBO DOS *********
                         TURBO DOS *********

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Date: 6 Nov 92 16:29:32 GMT
From: wupost!emory!ogicse!adaptive![e-mail]  (Casey Bahr)
Subject: Kaypro 10 For Sale
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

    ************ PRICE REDUCED TO $150 ****************

The subject line about sums it up, a Kaypro with one 10MB HD
and a 5.25" DSDD.  In excellent working condition.  * $150 * plus
COD shipping in the USA.  Selling because I'm upgrading to a Mac
(Please, no flames from you dedicated CP/M'rs :) )

Also comes with a handsome carrying cover, and tons of software
and manuals.  All the standard Kaypro software: Perfect Writer,
Perfect Filer, WordStar, DataStar, ReportStar, etc., etc.  Plus
I have nearly two shoeboxes full of floppies with games, accounting
programs, communications software, you name it!
A large portion of this software is already loaded on the hard disk.

Casey Bahr
[e-mail] | ogicse!adaptive!casey | uunet!adaptive!casey
Adaptive Solutions, Inc., 1400 NW Compton Dr. Suite 340, Beaverton, OR 97006
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Date: 5 Nov 92 17:41:56 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!crcnis1.unl.edu!news.unomaha.edu!nevada.edu!jimi!equinox![e-mail]  (USENET News Administration)
Subject: Looking for kermit for a cpm
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Osborne, Xerox, and IBM CPM formats.  Failing kermit, are there any other
telecommunications programs available out there?
From: [e-mail] (Tamela R. Germano)
Path: pyramid!tamela

        thanks,
            Tamela Germano

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 23:11:15 GMT
From: Christopher Currie <[e-mail]>
Subject: myz80 query
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I've been trying out myz80 and it's very impressive. But there's
one problem: I can't get CP/M Kermit to work with it. I have to
use serial port 2 for DOS communications (mouse on port 1), so I
wondered whether the emulator can use a serial port, whether it
uses port 1 by default, and if so whether there's any means of
making it use port 2 instead. I couldn't find anything about this
in the docs that came with the trial version. Does anyone know the
answer?

Christopher Currie
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 9 Nov 92 02:00:47 GMT
From: <[e-mail]>[e-mail]
Subject: Osbourne Kermit/Software Wanted
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I recently acquired an old Obsourne 1, and would like to play around
with it - unfortunately, I'm having a bootstrapping problem, because I
don't have any telcommunications software for it.  If anyone could
send me a disk with kermit on it for the osbourne, I'd really
appreciate it - I'll definitely repay your for your time and costs.
Did anyone ever make a hard disk of any size for this machine?

I'd also appreciate the names or addresses of any user's group that
might have a library of software for this machine.

Finally, if anyone has any software around for this machine, and no
longer wants it, please let me know - I'd be interested in purchasing
it.

Thanks!

   Bill
   ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: 2 Nov 92 15:41:48 GMT
From: casey!gaboon!afc![e-mail]  (Usenet News Feed)
Subject: PD C compiler?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi, I'm looking for a reasonable C compiler for my old MAX-80.
Either a native compiler, or a cross compiler that I can
run under Unix.  Is there anything available?

Is there anyone else out there who has a MAX-80 from Lobo Systems?

Thanks!

/\ndy

------------------------------

Date: 5 Nov 92 00:21:12 GMT
From: concert!glv![e-mail]  (Richard Carpenter)
Subject: Re: CP/M emulator for MAC?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mikael
Kristoffersson) writes:
>
> Hello CP/M world and lovers!
>
> Does anyone know if there is a CP/M emulator for the Macintosh?
> Or maybe any source-code to port? I would like to hear about it
> if there is...
>
> All I have seen so far is for MS/DOS or UNIX.
>
> I do got a swedish CP/P comuter called JET-80, but my desk-top
> is not large enough for the MAC QUADRA and the JET-80 :-(
>
> I hope there is a solution to this...
>
> Mikael Kristoffersson,  E-mail [e-mail]
> Uppsala, SWEDEN

Get a bigger desk.

--
Chris Carpenter                  |         "We learn from history
[e-mail]                      |       that we don't learn
Encompass, Cary, NC              |       anything from history."

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Date: 9 Nov 92 15:12:20 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!uwm.edu!biosci!ucselx!crash![e-mail]  (Don Maslin)
Subject: Re: msdos to cpm
Message-ID: <1992Nov09.071221.564@crash>

Either 22DISK by Sydex (shareware) or UniForm by MicroSolutions (commercial)
is what you seek.


              Sydex
              P.O. Box 5700
              Eugene, OR  97405
              Voice:  (503)  683-6033
              FAX:    (503)  683-1622
              Data:   (503)  683-1385

                Micro Solutions, Inc.
                132 West Lincoln Hwy.
                DeKalb IL 60115
                [phone]


------------------------------

Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 13:19:43 IST
From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: small C problem.

You just found out that real numbers are not handled by your compiler.
So what about buying MIX-C once for all for 20$?
I do not have any interest with MIX software, I just repeat from my experience,
pay these 20$ and begin to ENJOY programming in C with your beloved computer,
instead of limiting yourself with a compiler which IS a beautiful thing, for
which Mr. Hendrix deserves our eternal gratitude, a C compiler written in C,
with all the sources available, etc, etc, a superb laboratory/demonstration
object, written for that purpose, but definitely not to write APPLICATIONS.
If you read the articles in DDJ that came with the compiler, and/or Hendrix's
****excellent**** book on the compiler and library, you will see that the
exclusion of the REAL type was deliberate.
When you begin using MIX-C @ 20$ instead, you will also be amazed by the
ratio of elapsed time needed to compile and build the .COM file, not only
because of the intermediate assembly in Small C.
I don't wish to be flamed as if I was denying the extraordinary qualities
of Small C, including its null price (not quite, if you need the books and
the Microsoft M-80 assembler, although I know that NOW there are free almost
compatible assemblers, which PERHAPS correctly assemble ANY code generated
by Small-C).
I just warmly suggest to APPLICATIONS programmers to save a lot of headache
for 20$ only.
If MIX doesn't send me a new copy of the compiler which I anyway already have
after such a post ....

Jacques Goldberg - Technion, Haifa, Israel.

------------------------------

Date: 9 Nov 92 15:13:43 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!uwm.edu!biosci!ucselx!crash![e-mail]  (Don Maslin)
Subject: Re: TURBO DOS *********
Message-ID: <1992Nov09.071343.593@crash>

Yes, I know something of TurboDOS, what are your questions?

------------------------------

Date: 9 Nov 92 05:10:51 GMT
From: ub!acsu.buffalo.edu![e-mail]  (John J. Kerwin)
Subject: TURBO DOS *********
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Has anyone heard of turbo dos for the CPM if you have please e-mail me
i have a couple of question i would like to ask you


                                                 jk

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INFO-CPM Digest             Thu, 12 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  131

Today's Topics:
         Kaypro NOT for sale, :( and term emulation question.
                Need system disks for TRS-80 Model 4P
                           Re: CP/M to DOS
                   Re: Looking for kermit for a cpm
                           Re: msdos to cpm
                          Re: PD C Compiler?
                         Re: small c problem

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Date: 7 Nov 92 00:29:05 GMT
From: att!fang!gator!towers!npal![e-mail]
Subject: Kaypro NOT for sale, :( and term emulation question.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi!
My name is Chuck Stewart, and I'm the person who posted an
article trying to sell my Kaypro-4 on this newsgroup awhile back.
To all those who responded; Thank you!
I'm sorry I'm so late getting back to you all, but things got
strange around here again...:}
It seems that I will not be able to sell the Kaypro for enough to
get even a start on a used 8086, so I will have to do the best I
can with it.
To do so I will need to talk with the modern world, and that
requires VT100 or ANSI emulation instead of VT52. I asked about
this awhile back and someone mentioned   (QTerm)? (4xx)?
Does anyone know if this is it, and if it is; where can I get it?
I would be extremely grateful for any information I can receive!

    Sky Marshal; Defender of Puma-kind, and all Neko-Jin!
Modem    |---\  |       /^\  |  /  |      Charles A. Stewart
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Date: 9 Nov 92 20:11:55 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!agate!rocket.ssl.berkeley.edu![e-mail]  (Eric J. Korpela)
Subject: Need system disks for TRS-80 Model 4P
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I've adopted another orphan.  This time it's a TRS-80 Model 4P.
Unfortunately, the system disks that I got with the machine are
trashed.  Therefore I'm looking for...

A TRSDOS 6 boot disk (with appropriate utilities) for running in
model 4 mode.

An earlier TRSDOS boot disk (for running in Model 3 mode).

and

A CP/M system disk (with the transient commands) for running CP/M.

I will, of course, pay media and shipping costs.

Now if I could just find someone willing to sell me a Model 16
for the same price, my "orphan museum" would be off to a good start.

Eric Korpela                                    |  The two most common things
[e-mail]              Internet  |  in the universe are
BKYAST::KORPELA    42215::KORPELA     DecNet    |  Hydrogen and stupidity.
korpela%bkyast@ucbjade                Bitnet    |       -Harlan Ellison

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Date: 10 Nov 92 09:32:59 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!math.fu-berlin.de![e-mail]  (Thomas Wolff)
Subject: Re: CP/M to DOS
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Don Maslin) writes:

> Both 22Disk by Sydex - shareware -  and UniForm by MicroSolutions - commercial -
> will permit reading a wide selection of CP/M disk formats.

UniForm does not seem to run anymore on recent MSDOS versions. It was of
questionable use anyway, at least not generally usable, since it was not
configurable to arbitrary formats. This is both unfortunate because its
concept of installing virtual drives instead of implementing copy commands
was certainly the nicer one.
Dan Fandrich recently announced a new program to install virtual drives
handling CP/M disks (if I understood him right), but - again unfortunately -
it doesn't seem to have been released yet.

Thomas
[e-mail]

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Date: 5 Nov 92 23:24:39 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!biosci!uwm.edu!news.bbn.com!noc.near.net!bigboote.WPI.EDU!bigwpi.WPI.EDU![e-mail]  (Mr. Neat-O [tm])
Subject: Re: Looking for kermit for a cpm
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tamela R. Germano) writes:
>Osborne, Xerox, and IBM CPM formats.  Failing kermit, are there any other
>telecommunications programs available out there?

I don't specifically know what versions are available, but try
watsun.cc.columbia.edu (128.59.39.1) for anonymous FTP.  It is the official
distribution site for kermit, and it has versions for just about every
computer that ever existed.

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Date: 10 Nov 92 10:51:08 GMT
From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!think.com!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!ira.uka.de!math.fu-berlin.de!wolff@  (Thomas Wolff)
Subject: Re: msdos to cpm
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Don Maslin) writes:

>Either 22DISK by Sydex (shareware) or UniForm by MicroSolutions (commercial)
>is what you seek.

UniForm does not seem to run anymore on recent MSDOS versions. It was of
questionable use anyway, at least not generally usable, since it was not
configurable to arbitrary formats. This is both unfortunate because its
concept of installing virtual drives instead of implementing copy commands
was certainly the nicer one.
Dan Fandrich recently announced a new program to install virtual drives
handling CP/M disks (if I understood him right), but - again unfortunately -
it doesn't seem to have been released yet.

Thomas
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 5 Nov 92 22:18:06 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!cs.utexas.edu!milano!cactus.org!wixer![e-mail]  (Lindsay Haisley)
Subject: Re: PD C Compiler?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Andy Hunt) writes:
>Hi, I'm looking for a reasonable C compiler for my old MAX-80.
>Either a native compiler, or a cross compiler that I can
>run under Unix.  Is there anything available?

BDS C, one of the best CP/M C compilers is still on the market, and is
quite reasonably priced, I believe.  It's currently marketed and
supported by Jay Sage of Sage Microsystems East.  You can reach him on
his BBS at 617-965-7259 (password "DDT") or by voice at 617-569-3552,
call about 10 Eastern time.  BDS C is a nearly complete K&R
implementation which makes fairly tight code and was the leader of the
pack at one point in speed benchmarks.


--
"Everything works if you let it"    |            Lindsay Haisley
-- The Roadie                       |            [e-mail]
                                    |            ***    formerly    ****
                                    |            [e-mail]

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Date: 10 Nov 92 00:46:18 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!milano!cactus.org!wixer![e-mail]  (Lindsay Haisley)
Subject: Re: small c problem
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (ECKHARDT, JASON LEE) writes:
>I just got smallc21 and it seems that I can't use the "%f" conversion
>specifier with this compiler?!  Is this not built in this version or am
>I supposed to include something? If this is a deficiency, is there another
>pd compiler available with a full 'c' implementation? (ansi would be great).

Floating point conversion is a complex business and not easily
implemented on 8080 or Z80 based machines.  Even commercial C compilers
such as BDS C implemented floating point arithmetic via special
functions which were included in an add-on floating point library.
Programs which I wrote using floating point arithmetic ususally handled
floating point numbers as strings which were I/O'd with %s rather than
%f.  There may be floating point libraries around for small C.  This is
certainly the place to advirtise for them.  Another source of
information, or so I'm told, is the CP/M echo of FidoNet which is
reportedly a good deal more active than this one.


--
"Everything works if you let it"    |            Lindsay Haisley
-- The Roadie                       |            [e-mail]

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INFO-CPM Digest             Fri, 13 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  132

Today's Topics:
                             Model 4P....
                             myz80 query
                 Re: 22DISK problem with trs-80 4pex
                           Re: CP/M to DOS
          Re: Need system disks for TRS-80 Model 4P (2 msgs)
                         Re: small c problem

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Date: 12 Nov 92 06:55:40 GMT
From: mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!ogicse!emory!kd4nc!vdbsan!willard![e-mail]
Subject: Model 4P....
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


 the following places still carry TRS-80 I-IV software and hardware..

   and with quite a large inventory I might add...

  computer reset in garland, Texas        1-214-276-8072
                                   fax/bbs 1-214-272-7920
  p.o. box 461782
  Garland, TX  75046-1782

  Pacific Computer Exchange in Portland, Oregon  1-503-236-2949

  1031 s.e. mill
  suite b
  portland, oregon 97214


    as far as CP/M is concern, I strongly recommend Montezuma Micro
  CP/M 2.2 above all others....


  also there is a publication for TRS-80 computers I-IV mostly...

   Computer News-80
   p.o. box 680
   Casper, Wyoming  82602-0680
   1-307-265-6483     (number may be disconnected or something but
                       they are still in business and still have the
                       Computer News-80 publication which I subscribe
                       to, along with an inventory of TRS-80 hardware
                       and software.....)

                      internet:  [e-mail]
                      uucp:  [e-mail]

--
[e-mail] (Sonic Druid)
Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- [phone]

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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 02:34:01 PST
From: pallio.UUCP![e-mail] (David Goodenough)
Subject: myz80 query
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Christopher Currie) asks:
> ..... I wondered whether the emulator can use a serial port,
> whether it uses port 1 by default, and if so whether there's any
> means of making it use port 2 instead. .....

I received a message from Simeon Cran on fidonet that addressed
this issue. Polled serial I/O can be done by direct access to the
UART's at 3f8-3fe and 2f8-2fe (i.e. COM1 & COM2). These port
addresses in the 8088's I/O space map to ports 00-06 and 08-0e (or
10-16) in the Z80's I/O space. I can't remember the port addresses
for COM2, but they're there.

You'll need to know the details of how to talk to an 8250, but
there's any amount of reference material available on that
subject.

The next version (1.03) also includes BIOS/FOSSIL serial support,
although I don't have the details of that here.
     dg
---
 + SLMR 2.1a #1246 + Use the Source, Luke .....

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Date: 11 Nov 92 14:15:41 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Re: 22DISK problem with trs-80 4pex
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (ECKHARDT, JASON LEE) writes:
> I have a trs-80 model 4p and and 486/clone. I have been getting software
> of the net for the 4p but its all on my pc. So i got 22disk to hopefully
> write all this good stuff to my model 4's cpm disks.
> Unforunately, 22disk doesn't (seem) to support my version of cpm.
> I think its cpm plus 3.0 : according to anadisk it has a 2:1 interleave
> and sector ids 0-17 and 256 byte sectors.
>
> Can anyone tell me how to get this format working with 22disk?
>
> thanks, jason.
>
 The 4P will also read an Osborne format (185K capacity).  There is also
a Zenith format (152K or 156K) that should work..

Willy

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Date: 10 Nov 92 16:18:26 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!biosci!uwm.edu!linac!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!milano!cactus.org!wixer![e-mail]  (Lindsay Haisley)
Subject: Re: CP/M to DOS
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Thomas Wolff) writes:
>UniForm does not seem to run anymore on recent MSDOS versions. It was of
>questionable use anyway, at least not generally usable, since it was not
>configurable to arbitrary formats. This is both unfortunate because its
>concept of installing virtual drives instead of implementing copy commands
>was certainly the nicer one.

My experience with MicroSolutions has been that they are helpful and
responsive to tech problems.  If you are having trouble with UniForm,
you should contact them as I'm sure they keep up to date with DOS
version updates and issue updates of UniForm in response.  Although I
use and recommend 22DISK myself, I've had at least one professional CP/M
software distrbutor (thankfully, this is not yet an oxymoron) tell me
that UniForm is the more reliable of the two.

MicroSolutions runs a BBS at 815-756-9100 in the US.


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-- The Roadie                       |            [e-mail]
                            |                    * * * *
                                |               Austin, Texas, USA

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Date: 10 Nov 92 16:21:18 GMT
From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx![e-mail]  (steve scrivano)
Subject: Re: Need system disks for TRS-80 Model 4P
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Eric J. Korpela) writes:
>I've adopted another orphan.  This time it's a TRS-80 Model 4P.
>Unfortunately, the system disks that I got with the machine are
>trashed.  Therefore I'm looking for...
>
>A TRSDOS 6 boot disk (with appropriate utilities) for running in
>model 4 mode.
>
>An earlier TRSDOS boot disk (for running in Model 3 mode).
>
>and
>
>A CP/M system disk (with the transient commands) for running CP/M.
>
>I will, of course, pay media and shipping costs.
>
>Now if I could just find someone willing to sell me a Model 16
>for the same price, my "orphan museum" would be off to a good start.

There is an obscure support department at Tandy called "Tandy Software
Assembly".  Most Radio Shack employees don't know about it because they
don't read the employee manual.  Anyway, if you don't have any luck with
your post, and you can round up the original catalog numbers of the items
you need, get a Tandy employee to call this department and order it for
you.  Last I heard, you can get copies of disks, replacements, etc., for
$7.00 per disk.

Steve Scrivano
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 12 Nov 92 22:50:15 GMT
From: coyote![e-mail]  (Leonard Lorden)
Subject: Re: Need system disks for TRS-80 Model 4P
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

> I've adopted another orphan.  This time it's a TRS-80 Model 4P.
> Unfortunately, the system disks that I got with the machine are
> trashed.  Therefore I'm looking for...
> A TRSDOS 6 boot disk (with appropriate utilities) for running in
> model 4 mode.
> An earlier TRSDOS boot disk (for running in Model 3 mode).

Congrat's on the TRS-80 4P.  May I suggest a subscription to Computer
News 80 magazine.  This magazine contains all the DOS's you're looking
for, and MUCH more.  It's only $24 a year and is distributed monthly.
When you order a Model 3 boot disk, be sure that it includes the file
MODELA/III.  This file is a software ROM, as the 4P has no built in ROM,
as the rest of the Model 4 family has.
    If you're a member on GEnie, stop by the Tandy RT as we boast several
files for the Models 1/3/4 there!  CN80 magazine also provides a
download-through-the-mail service for nominal charges.
   Computer News 80
   PO Box 680
   Casper, Wyoming 82602-0680
   [phone]

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Date: 11 Nov 92 06:18:06 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!torn!nott!cunews!revcan!cerianthus!pinetree![e-mail]  (garth jones)
Subject: Re: small c problem
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

> certainly the place to advirtise for them.  Another source of
> information, or so I'm told, is the CP/M echo of FidoNet which is
> reportedly a good deal more active than this one.

The Fido Cpm echo has about 15- 20 messages a day
 Do anyone know where a list of Cp/m os disk are?



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INFO-CPM Digest             Sat, 14 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  133

Today's Topics:
                    22DISK problem with trs-80 4p
       Can a Kaypro-4 PRINT Gif's on a dot matrix (RX-80)?? :}
                        cp/m - dos conversion
                         Help, sirius files?
                           Re: CP/M to DOS
              Re: Looking for Hard Drive for Epson QX-10
                     Re: Undocumented Z80 opcodes

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Date: 11 Nov 92 01:47:00 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!spool.mu.edu!darwin.sura.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tamsun.tamu.edu!zeus.tamu.edu![e-mail]  (ECKHARDT, JASON LEE)
Subject: 22DISK problem with trs-80 4p
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have a trs-80 model 4p and and 486/clone. I have been getting software
of the net for the 4p but its all on my pc. So i got 22disk to hopefully
write all this good stuff to my model 4's cpm disks.
Unforunately, 22disk doesn't (seem) to support my version of cpm.
I think its cpm plus 3.0 : according to anadisk it has a 2:1 interleave
and sector ids 0-17 and 256 byte sectors.

Can anyone tell me how to get this format working with 22disk?

thanks, jason.

------------------------------

Date: 13 Nov 92 06:27:20 GMT
From: att!fang!gator!towers!npal![e-mail]
Subject: Can a Kaypro-4 PRINT Gif's on a dot matrix (RX-80)?? :}
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi There!

Here's an interesting question:
My Kaypro-4 , of course , cannot handle graphics.
I cannot afford a new computer for a long time. I must make do with the Kaypro.
So. I am an anime fan and I would like to PRINT OUT GIF's. (Stop laughiing!
You! In the corner! Stop laughing!  ;)
Has anyone ever written a program for a Kaypro-4 to
PRINT Gif's on a dot matrix printer?
I have an Epson RX-80.
Please stop giggling; you're making the Kaaypro nervous...:)

1    f

   Sky Marshal; Defender of Puma-kind, and all Neko-Jin!
Modem    |---\  |       /^\  |  /  |      Charles A. Stewart
Enhanced |___/  |    | (___) |/\   |    | Indiana Animation Club
Offense  |    ) |    | |   | |  \  |    | 543 Fletcher Ave. #3
Warfare  |___/   \__/| |   | |   |  \__/| Indianapolis, IN 46203
Internet: [e-mail]  Fidonet: Chuck Stewart 1:231/190
(or) Internet to Fidonet: [e-mail]
         "Right now, on the Net, I'm the Main IAC..."

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Date: 11 Nov 92 23:33:53 GMT
From: sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu![e-mail]  (Earl W Phillips)
Subject: cp/m - dos conversion
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

For quite a while, I have struggled with the problem of converting
all my old CP/M stuff to my dos computer, as many of you have (evident
by the number of messages on the subject!). I have finally succeeded.
While there are many programs out there that simulate the cp/m-os
on dos, they either lacked the ability to directly read/write a
cp/m formatted disk, or you were forced to use the old modem
technique to get the files into your dos. No More! I have discovered
a company called "Intersecting Concepts", @ 30851 Agoura Rd,
Suite 200, Agoura Hills, Ca 91301 ph:818-879-0086. They have
produced a product called "Media Master" which runs flawlessly
on my IBM-PC AT 286 w/dos v.5 that logs in my a:floppy drive
as a Morrow MD-2 (SSDD) (which was one of my old cp/m machines).
It will also log in many other 5-1/4" cp/m disk formats, up to
I think close to 70 of 'em! You can then directly read/write the
cp/m floppy disk, copying all of the files if you wish onto your
dos machine's harddrive. Then, Media Master has a cp/m-os emulator,
called "ZP/EM" which runs the cp/m software! Of course, the program
"myz80" does this well too, but Media Master is one program that
does everything in one package, negating the need to run 2 or
more pieces of software just to run cp/m on dos. BTW, all of the
standard disclaimers apply re:my working for them or getting
financial consideration from the (I don't!). I just finally found
something that works after more than 2 years of searching. Man,
it's just like sitting at the console of my old Morrow! Absolutely
seamless, I tell ya! Hope this helps all of you looking for a
solution. BTW, the price? Just about $70 bucks, ups'ed to your
door!

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Date: 13 Nov 92 11:23:56 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!sersun1!plasparc3![e-mail]  (Alastair Neil)
Subject: Help, sirius files?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Does anyone remember  the Sirius, did it run cpm? I have a collegue who has disks with
files written by an old sirius, and he would like to have access to them - but he doesn't
know what operating system the sirius ran. - Any help/suggestions very welcome.

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Date: 10 Nov 92 09:32:59 GMT
From: van-bc!cs.ubc.ca!utcsri!rpi!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!math.fu-berlin.de![e-mail]  (Thomas Wolff)
Subject: Re: CP/M to DOS
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Don Maslin) writes:

> Both 22Disk by Sydex - shareware -  and UniForm by MicroSolutions - commercial -
> will permit reading a wide selection of CP/M disk formats.

UniForm does not seem to run anymore on recent MSDOS versions. It was of
questionable use anyway, at least not generally usable, since it was not
configurable to arbitrary formats. This is both unfortunate because its
concept of installing virtual drives instead of implementing copy commands
was certainly the nicer one.
Dan Fandrich recently announced a new program to install virtual drives
handling CP/M disks (if I understood him right), but - again unfortunately -
it doesn't seem to have been released yet.

Thomas
[e-mail]

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Date: 13 Nov 92 19:31:38 GMT
From: lhdsy1!nntpserver.chevron.com!usmi02.midland.chevron.com![e-mail]  (J. S. Comeaux)
Subject: Re: Looking for Hard Drive for Epson QX-10
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I hope someone can help Chris find a Hard drive.  They do exist, but
I don't know where.  2 MB RAM disks also exist with Batter backup,
which is a good way to go.  I still use the two-disk drive system.
Tomorrow I'll bring the address of the EPSON usre's group in
Pennsylvania.

John (no signature yet)

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Date: 13 Nov 92 12:12:32 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!mizar.cc.umanitoba.ca![e-mail]  (Dan Fandrich)
Subject: Re: Undocumented Z80 opcodes
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>Does anyone have a List
>of the UNdocumented op-codes
>For the Zilog Z80 Mirco processor
>
>If so would you send me a copy
>
>
>Garret Flynn,
>Information Technology,
>University of Limerick,
>Ireland,

Not bad, but the second line is harsh and the rhyme scheme is weak.
How about:

      Does anyone have a tabulation,
      Of all of the undoc'mented instructions,
         For the Zilog Z80
         Micro-heavyweighty;
      If so, would you send me a reproduction?

But who am I to critique someone from the University of Limerick?

>>> Dan
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INFO-CPM Digest             Mon, 16 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  134

Today's Topics:
                            apple lisa....
                          infostar for sale
                         pascal mt/+ for sale
                      Re: I just got a Z80 CP/M
              Re: Looking for Hard Drive for Epson QX-10
              Re: Need system disks for TRS-80 Model 4P
                   Re: Turbo Pascal for a Kaypro II
                     Re: Undocumented Z80 opcodes
                       Undocumented Z80 opcodes

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Date: 14 Nov 92 01:11:46 GMT
From: channel1![richard.wyble%channel1.com]@uunet.uu.net  (richard wyble)
Subject: apple lisa....
Message-ID: <1992Nov13.1037.1218@channel1>

 >-    I'm looking for any information which may be available for the
 >-or rather about the Apple Lisa, not to mention what kind of machine
 >-it is.....

The Apple Lisa was, simplistically, a product ahead of its time. One might
say that it was the first Macintosh. In fact, a number of them were sold in
the late 1980's as a cheap machine which would run Mac software.

I suggest that you seek a Macintosh forum in which to ask further questions.

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Date: 12 Nov 92 04:48:58 GMT
From: channel1![richard.wyble%channel1.com]@uunet.uu.net  (richard wyble)
Subject: infostar for sale
Message-ID: <1992Nov11.1037.1211@channel1>

InfoStar is MicroPro's database management system. The modules are all here,
FormGen, DataStar, ReportStar, and SuperSort. Original packaging,
documentation, and discs. Disc format is Xerox 820, 5.25"

Make an offer.
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Date: 12 Nov 92 04:48:58 GMT
From: channel1![richard.wyble%channel1.com]@uunet.uu.net  (richard wyble)
Subject: pascal mt/+ for sale
Message-ID: <1992Nov11.1037.1212@channel1>

Pascal MT/+ for sale, original packaging, documentation, and discs. Disc
format is 8" cpm generic, and I include copies in 5.25" Kaypro DSDD. Make an
offer.
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Date: 16 Nov 92 11:22:00 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!think.com!paperboy.osf.org![e-mail]  (David George)
Subject: Re: I just got a Z80 CP/M
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Simon J Hopkins) writes:
|>
|> Read this one with interest, in the UK the Amstrad PCW range (CP/M based)
|> still selling well.

and the 6128 machines are color too.  Amstrad have just launched a new Z80 based
notebook although I don't think it runs CP/M.   It was reviewed recently in
Byte under the comment "last Z80 machine ?",  we'll see.  The Tatung Einstein
was also a color CP/M machine, although the color monitor only supported
40 columns.

David.

------------------------------

Date: 14 Nov 92 08:07:00 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu![e-mail]  (Alexandre Khalil)
Subject: Re: Looking for Hard Drive for Epson QX-10
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (J. S. Comeaux) writes...
>I hope someone can help Chris find a Hard drive.  They do exist, but
>I don't know where.  2 MB RAM disks also exist with Batter backup,
>which is a good way to go.  I still use the two-disk drive system.
>Tomorrow I'll bring the address of the EPSON usre's group in
>Pennsylvania.

  Hello Guys

  I have worked for a year and a half on QX-10 and 16 before leaving the
school where I was teaching.  At that time, I gave away 3 QX-10, 2 QX-16
2 20 Mb hard disks and all the original technical documentation.  Had to do
that as I was leaving the country and could not afford to take them along.
  In the US, I enquired about QXs for the good times sakes, and came up
with those two addresses:

   Star Technology Corporation
   900 Road 170
   Carbondale, CO 81623     [phone]

     I found their prices much too high ( $679 for a 20 Mb, 65 ms
   hard disk )

   SnyderScope International
   1594 Hilltop Drive
   El Cajon, CA 92020-8227  [phone]

     SnyderScope was in the process of closing its QX interests in 1991, so
   I don't know if they might be of help.  They might be kind and give you
   a few tips on how to hack a QX to MFM or RLL interface so that you can
   use a regular DOS drive.

  Happy hacking

>John (no signature yet)

alex khalil [e-mail]
U. of Houston-Downtown

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Date: 12 Nov 92 20:41:54 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!acsu.buffalo.edu![e-mail]  (Scott P. Toenniessen)
Subject: Re: Need system disks for TRS-80 Model 4P
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Eric J. Korpela) writes:
>
>A TRSDOS 6 boot disk (with appropriate utilities) for running in
>model 4 mode.
>
Call MISOSYS (1-800-misosys) and buy LS-DOS 6.3.1.  Model 4 TRSDOS 6
is LS-DOS with the Radio Shack name (as PC-DOS is to MS-DOS).  This
is the latest version (released last year).  I believe it is $39.

>An earlier TRSDOS boot disk (for running in Model 3 mode).
>
If you want TRSDOS 1.3, you will have to go to Radio Shack.  I would
suggest getting LDOS 5.3.1 from MISOSYS.  It works almost exactly like
LS-DOS, but in Model 3 mode.  It blows TRSDOS 1.3 out of the water.
(some Model 3 software will only run under TRSDOS 1.3, though).
>
>A CP/M system disk (with the transient commands) for running CP/M.
>
I believe Computer News 80 has Montezuma Micro CPM 2.2.  This is your
best bet.  Radio Shack CPM was based on CPM version 3.0.  I've heard
a lot of complaints about the Radio Shack port of it (never used it myself).

                   Scott

------------------------------

Date: 29 Oct 92 04:14:23 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!scd.hp.com!hpscdm!hplextra!hpcss01!hpergfg2!hprdash!hprnd![e-mail]  (Greg Holdren)
Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal for a Kaypro II
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

  Sage Microsystems East:
  1435 Centre St.
  Newton Centre, MA 02159-2469
  [phone] Voice 9-11AM
  [phone] BSS

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Date: 16 Nov 92 11:35:37 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!think.com!paperboy.osf.org![e-mail]  (David George)
Subject: Re: Undocumented Z80 opcodes
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Dan Fandrich) writes:
|> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
|> >
|> >Does anyone have a List
|> >of the UNdocumented op-codes
|> >For the Zilog Z80 Mirco processor
|> >
|> >If so would you send me a copy
|> >
|> >
|> >Garret Flynn,
|> >Information Technology,
|> >University of Limerick,
|> >Ireland,
|>
|> Not bad, but the second line is harsh and the rhyme scheme is weak.
|> How about:
|>
|>       Does anyone have a tabulation,
|>       Of all of the undoc'mented instructions,
|>          For the Zilog Z80
|>          Micro-heavyweighty;
|>       If so, would you send me a reproduction?
|>
|> But who am I to critique someone from the University of Limerick?
|>
|> >>> Dan

hmmm or even:

    There was a processor which sported,
    Some op-codes quite unsupported.
    What people discovered,
    they passed on to others.
    Who wrote software never to be ported.

David.

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Date: 10 Nov 92 14:17:58 GMT
From: mcsun!ieunet!ul.ie![e-mail]
Subject: Undocumented Z80 opcodes
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Does anyone have a List
of the UNdocumented op-codes
For the Zilog Z80 Mirco processor

If so would you send me a copy


Garret Flynn,
Information Technology,
University of Limerick,
Ireland,

E-mail [e-mail]

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INFO-CPM Digest             Tue, 17 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  135

Today's Topics:
                                BDS C
                   Children's games programs wanted
                   EPSON QX-ers Important Addresses
                       Genealogy program wanted
                              Re: MIX C
                           Re: myz80 query
                         Re: small c problem
                   Re: Turbo Pascal for a Kaypro II
                     Re: Undocumented Z80 opcodes
                       Re: ZMODEM for CP/M ???

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:40:40 -0500
From: Jay Sage <[e-mail]>
Subject: BDS C
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Lindsay Haisley was kind in mentioning me as a source for BDS C, but there
were two inaccuracies that should be corrected.  First, Sage Microsystems
East is my wife's company.  They carry all the products I like, and I am
happy to provide technical support.  In the case of BDS C, I worked with
Leor Zolman to develop the Z-System version of BDS C, with is now included
along with the older CP/M version in the standard BDS C product package.

A more serious error in Lindsay's message was the mirror-imaging of part of
Sage Microsystem's phone number.  I won't repeat the wrong number; the
correct number is 617-965-3552.  The number for the BBS was correct
(965-7259).  The recommendation to call voice late in the evening was also
correct.  The best time to find me at home is between 11 pm and midnight
Eastern time (even that will fail on occasion).  I'm happy to talk about
almost any subject related to CP/M-compatible computing.

-- Jay


------------------------------

Date: 17 Nov 92 05:31:46 GMT
From: access.usask.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!janus.arc.ab.ca![e-mail]
Subject: Children's games programs wanted
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am looking for young children's games to run on a KayPro 2 under CP/M.
I would especially like to hear about some that use graphics (on a KayPro?),
but non-graphical games might be useful as well.

The target audience is aged 3 to 7.

Thanks.

Rob Brown
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 16 Nov 92 14:38:28 GMT
From: lhdsy1!nntpserver.chevron.com!usmi02.midland.chevron.com![e-mail]  (J. S. Comeaux)
Subject: EPSON QX-ers Important Addresses
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Important addresses for all Epson QX-10 Users.

As of Dec 1990, GuildWare Inc. was still in
operation and still providing NEW products for
the Epson QX-10 for CP/M and MS DOS systems.
I counted 31 products for Epson computers.
I have used many of them and they do work well.
Now if Dan Oja could just get them to work with
mouse support :|.

GuildWare Inc
PH [phone]
P O Box 819
Marquette  MI  49855

As of June 1989, The Epson Lifeboat
newsletter of the National Epson Users Group,
was still publishing.  It provides essential
information and addresses for QX-10, QX-16,
and Equity owners.  Back issues may be available.

Epson Lifeboat
P O Box 1076
Lemont  PA  16851

Richard Shoemaker
[phone]
between 4PM and 7PM daily except Saturdays.
Richard helps MEMBERS, so don't keep him tied up
without sending your check for dues.
Annual dues were $25/year.  Public domain
disks available.   Ask for sample issue.

Roger Amidon has the final version of the
TPM operating system (V 3.88).
He also has a new ROM chip that can assist
booting into MS DOS without disk swapping.

DX Computing Co
Box 189
Hopewell  NJ  08525

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Date: 17 Nov 92 05:28:14 GMT
From: access.usask.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!janus.arc.ab.ca![e-mail]
Subject: Genealogy program wanted
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am looking for a genealogy program to run under CP/M on a KayPro 2.

All suggestions welcome.

Thanks.

Rob Brown
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:34:55 -0500
From: Jay Sage <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MIX C
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Jacques Goldberg wrote:

>> MIX-C was manufactured and sold by MIX Software, Richardson, Texas,...
>> for about 20$, with a 300 hundred pages documentation included.

   As far as I know, MIX C is still available from Ed Grey, who reads (and
occasionally posts to) this newsgroup.  I'm afraid I do not have his email
address or the phone number of his BBS handy.  Perhaps someone else will
post it.

-- Jay


------------------------------

Date: 14 Nov 92 19:17:42 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!scd.hp.com!hpscdm!hplextra!hpcc05!hpyhde4!hpycla!hpergfg2!hprdash!hprnd![e-mail]  (Greg Holdren)
Subject: Re: myz80 query
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

 COM1 => 02F8h-02FFh PC i/o => 00h-08h Z80 i/o respectivly
 COM2 => 03F8h-03FFh PC i/o => 09h-0Fh Z80 i/o respectivly

 So you have to mod. the kermit program to use a 8250 like chip at
 the Z80s io address shown.

 Greg Holdren
 [e-mail]

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Date: 12 Nov 92 18:10:57 GMT
From: agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!mucs!p4.cs.man.ac.uk![e-mail]  (Paul Martin)
Subject: Re: small c problem
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (garth jones) writes:

>The Fido Cpm echo has about 15- 20 messages a day

It also seems to share the same inhabitants.

--
Paul Martin
Internet: [e-mail]
Fidonet:  2:250/107.3

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:29:56 -0500
From: Jay Sage <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal for a Kaypro II
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

   It was nice of someone in a recent posting to recommend my wife's
company, Sage Microsystems East, as a source for Turbo Pascal for CP/M.
Unfortunately, that product is no longer available.  After Borland declined
to renew Alpha Software's license, Bill Roch (Elliam Associates) and I tried
to convince them to release the software in some form (such as licenses to
other distributors), but they refused.  This is a real shame, because Turbo
Pascal is still an excellent product.  If Borland finds it too much trouble
to count the small sums of money a license could bring in (for no work on
their part at all), the least they could do is release the product to the
public domain.

-- Jay Sage


------------------------------

Date: 16 Nov 92 13:48:42 GMT
From: think.com!paperboy.osf.org![e-mail]  (Eamonn McManus)
Subject: Re: Undocumented Z80 opcodes
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

|> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Dan Fandrich) writes:
|> |> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
|> |> >
|> |> >Does anyone have a List
|> |> >of the UNdocumented op-codes
|> |> >For the Zilog Z80 Mirco processor
|> |> >
|> |> >If so would you send me a copy
|> |> >
|> |> >
|> |> >Garret Flynn,
|> |> >Information Technology,
|> |> >University of Limerick,
|> |> >Ireland,
|> ... various limericks deleted


Eamonn McManus <[e-mail]> suggests:

Neither of the proposed alternatives scans, and the rhyming is not
good.

  An out-of-date student called Flynn
  Looks for op-codes that never were in
    The documentation;
    Experimentation
  Is needed, but patience wears thin.

Still not very satisfactory (in particular the sentences span the
lines in a rather awkward way), but it does scan.

Eamonn

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Date: 17 Nov 92 07:54:32 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!uniwa!cujo!cc.curtin.edu.au![e-mail]  (Ron Murray)
Subject: Re: ZMODEM for CP/M ???
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Kentt{l{ Marko) writes:

> I'd like to have ZMODEM documentation or source (ZMP doesn't come with source)
> so if any of you have it, just E-mail it to [e-mail], please.

   I've been promising for some time to release the zmp/rzmp sources, but
it's one of those things I just don't seem to have got around to yet! I'm
currently looking into a Windows version for PCs, so I just rooted out the
sources again. I'll try and post them in the next week or so. Be warned though
that it may not be easy to recompile zmp from the sources: I had to resort to
a few fiddles to get it to compile and run in what is, after all, a rather
restrictive environment for that sort of thing (I had only about 54k of TPA).
I was able to get it to go only by using a particular compiler, which isn't
all that common.

   There were several reasons why I didn't release the sources with zmp in
the first place: mostly, I guess, I didn't want 156 different versions of
zmp floating around (we all learned an awful lot from SD!). In these days
of PCs, Macs and "shareware", I'm more worried about someone else making
money from my code (and, of course, that of Hal Maney, who wrote Hmodem,
from which [r]zmp was derived). Perhaps releasing it all under the GPL will
help: has anyone got any suggestions on this? (Please note that any Windows
port of zmp will be released under much the same conditions as cp/m zmp was:
free to non-commercial users).

   The Zmodem specs, which you should try and get if you intend to write a
program using Zmodem, are probably in Simtel-20's zmodem directory. Try
"yzmodem.arc" and possibly "zmodem810.zip" as well.

> JMODEM would be even better...

   You may have problems with jmodem in a cp/m environment. If memory serves
me right (it's been a long time, and I don't have the docs with me), it's
basically xmodem with an impossibly large (for cp/m) packet size: up to about
14k, I believe. (The Zmodem-like protocol in Fidonet mail systems has a similar
problem, in case you wonder why I never added that capability to Foodo). It
wasn't possible to add jmodem to zmp for this reason: simple lack of memory.
(You may notice that zmp receives files in chunks of up to 16k: if these
chunks are less than 16k, then that's all the memory you have free in your
system with zmp running). It may be possible to get jmodem running by
re-coding the whole lot in assembler, or cutting down on other things, but
the real question is: why bother? Zmodem is probably more efficient under
all but the best conditions.

 .....Ron

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INFO-CPM Digest             Fri, 20 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  136

Today's Topics:
                              Kaypro 10
                          Prolog for CP/M ?
     Re: Can a Kaypro-4 PRINT Gif's on a dot matrix (RX-80)?? :}
                            Re: Kaypro 10
                              Re: MIX C
              Re: Need system disks for TRS-80 Model 4P
                   Re: Turbo Pascal for a Kaypro II
                           Uniform Upgrade

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Date: 15 Nov 92 21:17:37 GMT
From: ryptyde![e-mail]  (Tom Williams)
Subject: Kaypro 10
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Here's a bit of a teaser for anyone who wants to play the game.

I have a Kaypro 10 machine with the 10Mb drive installed.  Because of
(apparently) magnetics in the area, the format for the second partition
is nearly lost (as is all data).

Question:  Does anyone know of a PD or shareware program to help me
rebuild the format/partition?  It's little use to have a 400k partition
on a 10 meg drive, and I can't find a replacement drive for less than a
can of soda.

Thanks.

Tom

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Date: 15 Nov 92 09:29:04 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!bu.edu!wang![e-mail]  (Joel Jacobsen)
Subject: Prolog for CP/M ?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I need a PROLOG system for CP/M, PD or very low price.
I've tried Micro-PROLOG, but I need more.

            Joel

------------------------------

Date: 15 Nov 92 21:07:32 GMT
From: ryptyde![e-mail]  (Tom Williams)
Subject: Re: Can a Kaypro-4 PRINT Gif's on a dot matrix (RX-80)?? :}
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] writes:

> Has anyone ever written a program for a Kaypro-4 to
> PRINT Gif's on a dot matrix printer?
> I have an Epson RX-80.

Well, Charles, now that I've dried all the tears from my eyes and can see
what I'm doing again ...

I own a Kaypro 10 (which I'll be posting about shortly), and I seem to
remember that there is a program to print graphics with CP/M.  While I
can't remember ever using it, I do browse the local graveyards here once
in a while.

You might try writing your own program in, say, S-Basic (came with my
machine), or in C using some of the DOS C routines for GIFs (again
noticed while browsing local boards).  The GIF structure is fairly simple
once you understand how the compression algorhythm works.  You could,
then, replace the palette with patterns, one for each major color, and
send the whole lot to the printer.

A program written for the Commodore 64 and the Gemini 10x is still around
somewhere (I have a copy of the compiled program, not the source).  It's
called ShadeyDump, and converts any Commodore graphic (bitmapped with
separate palette of three selectable colors) to a pseudo-dithered
monochrome file ready for printing.  The program was featured in one of
the Commodore magazines and should be easily translated to S-Basic or C.

(I hear you snickering over there when I say Commodore, so STOP IT!!)

I hope this helps.  If I see something on a local board I'll mail it to
you.

Tom

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Date: 16 Nov 92 14:56:28 GMT
From: mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!ogicse!uwm.edu!biosci!ucselx!crash![e-mail]  (Don Maslin)
Subject: Re: Kaypro 10
Message-ID: <1992Nov16.065628.8826@crash>

Why not back up your data and reformat the drive?

------------------------------

Date: 18 Nov 92 14:51:46 GMT
From: crash![e-mail]  (Don Maslin)
Subject: Re: MIX C
Message-ID: <1992Nov18.065147.1523@crash>

Have not been in direct contact with Ed for a while, but this was formerly
his .signature:
--
 Ed Grey  \*\  Sysop of The Grey Matter BBS & RCP/M 213-971-6260
 P.O. Box #2186  \*\  Bitnet: ac959%cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm
 Inglewood, CA 90305  \*\  Internet: [e-mail]
 USA     \**\     [phone]     \**\     Fidonet: 1:102/752


                         - don

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Date: 17 Nov 92 23:26:29 GMT
From: coyote![e-mail]  (Leonard Lorden)
Subject: Re: Need system disks for TRS-80 Model 4P
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

> I believe Computer News 80 has Montezuma Micro CPM 2.2.  This is your
> best bet.  Radio Shack CPM was based on CPM version 3.0.  I've heard
> a lot of complaints about the Radio Shack port of it (never used it myself).
>
>                    Scott

The biggest complaint I've heard about RS CP/M is that it will not
utilize double sided drives...

          Leonard

** - Term limits for Sysop's! **

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Date: 17 Nov 92 19:04:08 GMT
From: eru.mt.luth.se!lunic!sunic!dkuug!daimi![e-mail]  (Lasse Hiller|e Petersen)
Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal for a Kaypro II
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Jay Sage) writes:
>   It was nice of someone in a recent posting to recommend my wife's
>company, Sage Microsystems East, as a source for Turbo Pascal for CP/M.
>Unfortunately, that product is no longer available.  After Borland declined
>to renew Alpha Software's license, Bill Roch (Elliam Associates) and I tried
>to convince them to release the software in some form (such as licenses to
>other distributors), but they refused.  This is a real shame, because Turbo
>Pascal is still an excellent product.  If Borland finds it too much trouble
>to count the small sums of money a license could bring in (for no work on
>their part at all), the least they could do is release the product to the
>public domain.

This sounds as the same problem the Macintosh community has with Borland's
Reflex database.

But perhaps some of you know that Borland _bought_ Turbo Pascal from a Danish
company called PolyData. While Borland was selling the compiler under the
name "Turbo Pascal" in the USA and elsewhere, it what still being sold in
Denmark as COMPAS Pascal. Borland furnished it with a better (WordStar-like)
Editor, which eventually appeared in COMPAS Pascal version 3.
(I still prefer the extremely simple editor in COMPAS Pascal v.2.20 ;-)
COMPAS Pascal was also available for CP/M-86 and Concurrent-CP/M.
(It was popular in the late 80's for use with the Regnecentralen Piccoline
computers -- with the 80186 CPU -- used at many schools in Denmark.)

Maybe it is worth investigating whether PolyData still holds the rights on
COMPAS Pascal?


--
Lasse Hiller|e Petersen - [e-mail] !  /*] Once upon a time at 2:30 in
Department of Information & Media Science  ! /*<  the afternoon, there lived
Aarhus University                          !/* *\ a wise&benevolent&wonderful
Denmark                                    ! L L  wizard who wore a big hat...

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 07:54:36 CST
From: Steve Westlund <[e-mail]>
Subject: Uniform Upgrade

When I recently upgraded to MS-DOS 5.0, I discovered out that my versions
of Uniform and Unidos no longer worked. Uniform is a program that allows
a PC to read CP/M disks. Unidos enables the PC to run CP/M software. Both
are produced by MicroSolutions, Inc.

I called the company and was informed that new releases of Uniform and
Unidos do run under MS-DOS 5.0. All that I had to do was send in a very
reasonable $15 upgrade fee, plus $2 shipping and handling, along with the
original software disk.

Within 10 days I received the upgrade disk in the mail. After reinstalling
the software on my system, I am happy to report that it works great!  The
new version of Uniform contains even more CP/M formats than the old one.
Here's the address and telephone number for Microsolutions, Inc.

       MicroSolutions, Inc.
       132 West Lincoln Hwy.
       De Kalb, IL 60115
       [phone]

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INFO-CPM Digest             Sun, 22 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  137

Today's Topics:
        Embedded Systems Software Engineer Position Available
                                MIX C
                            PD C compiler?
                 Re: EPSON QX-ers Important Addresses
                       Re: Help, sirius files?
                      RE: I just got a Z80 CP/M
                   Re: Turbo Pascal for a Kaypro II
                             Turbo Pascal
                               ZCPR FAQ

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Date: 18 Nov 92 22:56:32 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!news.Brown.EDU!noc.near.net!news.cs.brandeis.edu!chaos.cs.brandeis.edu![e-mail]  (Mary F Wentworth)
Subject: Embedded Systems Software Engineer Position Available
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

**** THIS IS A RE-POSTING ****

Houghton Mifflin Co.'s Language Software Group is looking to hire an
embedded systems software engineer to work in its Cambridge, MA office.

Specific Responsibilities:

Will be responsible for: porting existing HMCo language software products
(spell checker, grammar checker, electronic reference works, etc.) from 'C'
to 'Z80' and other microprocessors; preparing and presenting detailed
language software design specifications for embedded systems environments;
providing technical support for embedded systems customers; and researching
best development, test, and optimization environments for Z80 and other
embedded systems.


Qualifications:

Position requires: at least two years of 'C' and 'Z80' programming experience
in commercially-oriented, team-oriented software development environment(s);
familiarity with bank switching; experience with in-circuit emulators;
excellent 'C' and assembly language programming, interpersonal, and
communication skills; and a willingness to occasionally travel overseas.
Technical or customer support experience is desirable. B.A./B.S. degree, or
equivalent, is necessary.

This is a temporary (one year) full-time position, though it could be a
permanent position for the right candidate.

If interested, please send or fax a resume with cover letter stating salary
requirement to:

Mary Wentworth
Software Division
Houghton Mifflin Co.
One Memorial Drive
Cambridge, MA 02142

phone: [phone]
fax:   [phone]

please do not respond via E-mail.
--
                               Mary F. Wentworth

               [e-mail]

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Date: 7 Nov 92 12:38:52 GMT
From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!psinntp!psinntp!blkbox![e-mail]  (Blake Scruggs)
Subject: MIX C
Message-ID: <1992Nov07.123852.25213@blkbox>

If * Anyone * has "MIX C" and would like to sell it, I would be interested
From what I understand, It's a CP/M based cross compiler for "C".
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 2 Nov 92 15:41:48 GMT
From: casey!gaboon!afc![e-mail]  (Usenet News Feed)
Subject: PD C compiler?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi, I'm looking for a reasonable C compiler for my old MAX-80.
Either a native compiler, or a cross compiler that I can
run under Unix.  Is there anything available?

Is there anyone else out there who has a MAX-80 from Lobo Systems?

Thanks!

/\ndy

------------------------------

Date: 21 Nov 92 08:01:22 GMT
From: mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu![e-mail]  (Paul Prescott)
Subject: Re: EPSON QX-ers Important Addresses
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Do any of these Epson oriented publications/software sources include any
support for the PX-8 laptop?

Paul Prescott
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 19 Nov 92 00:14:16 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!uniwa!cujo![e-mail]  (Don Griffiths)
Subject: Re: Help, sirius files?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Alastair Neil) writes:


>Does anyone remember  the Sirius, did it run cpm? I have a collegue who has disks with
>files written by an old sirius, and he would like to have access to them - but he doesn't
>know what operating system the sirius ran. - Any help/suggestions very welcome.

If you're refering to the Sirius/Victor 9000, it was an 8086 based, non-IBM PC
compatible computer that ran both CP/M 86 and MS-DOS.  If you don't actually
have access to a Sirius, reading the disks can be a problem as they used
variable speed drives (fitting 600k+ onto a  SSDD 5.25 disk).  Best solution,
find someone with both a sirius and another PC and transfer the files by serial
cable. (I have access to such a setup, but I'm a tad far away to be useful :-) )

Don Griffiths
--
--------------------+--------------------------------------------------------
Don Griffiths       | JANET    munnari!cujo.curtin.edu.au![e-mail]
Information Systems | UUCP     uunet!munnari!cujo.curtin.edu.au!Don
Curtin University   | Bitnet   [e-mail]

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Date: 19 Nov 92 00:10:00 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pitt.edu!pitt!grgzfla![e-mail]  (Daniel C Becker)
Subject: RE: I just got a Z80 CP/M
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Adrian Silveanu) writes:

> Where there ever any CP/M computers with a moniter other than mono?

IUP (Indiana University of Pennsylvania) had a _really_ niffty color
graphic monitor.  It was made by a company called Vectrix.  It
connected to the parallel printer port and had its own Z80 processor
(intelligent peripherals - imagine that! :-)).  It was controlled by
sending ASCII command strings down the cable.  It could handle 3D
image definitions and motion.

> Is the the CP/M Market dead?

I'll add an emphatic NO!  Remember the addage "Wisdom of the Ancients".

> P.S. Could you please send all your answers to my E-Mail address, because
>      I do not usually read this news group.

Oh, alright...

--
dcb -- {Daniel C | Dan} Becker
UUCP:  ... pitt!grgzfla!dcb    USENET:  [e-mail]
   "This [quote] intentionally left blank."

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Date: 19 Nov 92 13:13:43 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!aukuni.ac.nz!kcbbs![e-mail]  (Richard Plinston)
Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal for a Kaypro II
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

     >>>>> COMPAS Pascal was available for CP/M-86 and Concurrent-CP/M

     Turbo-Pascal 3.0x was available for CP/M-86 too.  There were also
     separate MS-DOS and PC-DOS versions.  The MS-DOS version could
     be configured for serial terminals in the same way as the CP/M
     and CP/M-86.

     cheers
     theories that other MD's (I'm one) have come-up with is the levels of (female
and male) hormones that circulate in the mother (and hence get to the fetus)
may affect the baby in this way. How the mother responds to stress in her life
will determine the hormones that she produces. And everyone has bothe types of
hormones circulating in their body (estrogrens and testosterone).
>> As for the "precious gift of God..." If it wasn't for Christianity, the
human race would not have the problems that it does in dealing with
homosexuality. Every enlighted person knows that Christianity was an opiate
created to oppress the masses and that is exactly what it has done for nearly
2,000 years! Just look at all the hypocrisy in the beloved church itself - they
preach against homosexuality, etc - yet priests are regularly accused of child
molestations, infidelity (breaking the celibate laws), homosexuality with other
priests,etc....
>> Before you flame me all you religious fanatics  - think of this - I actually
had a priest tell me that knowledge (scientific in particular) is a hinderance
to faith and believing! Now if that isn't oppressing the gain of knowledge and
truth, then I don't know what is!!!!!
>> Doc

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 09:54:11 -0500
From: Jay Sage <[e-mail]>
Subject: Turbo Pascal
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

   Lasse Hiller|e Petersen's information about the origin of Turbo Pascal
was very interesting; I had not heard that before.  I remember talk about
origins of Turbo Pascal in France, where Philippe Kahn grew up, I
understand.  This was the first I heard of a Danish connection.  It would be
interesting to see if there would be another avenue to get some rights to
the code.

   I normally speak out against pirating commercial software (and not only
because I am a developer myself), but in situations like this -- where the
person who wants the software is offering payment but the payment is refused
by the producer -- I say nothing against disks being passed around.
Probably Borland does not even mind that.  These big companies, I am told,
worry about legal entanglements in connection with offering the software for
sale but not supporting it, or even from giving it away.

-- Jay Sage


------------------------------

Date: 18 Nov 92 20:23:01 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!mimbres.cs.unm.edu!constellation!a.cs.okstate.edu![e-mail]  (STOLFA ROLAND JOSE)
Subject: ZCPR FAQ
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello,

I am wondering where one can get ZCPR, weither source code is available,
etc.  Any and all pointers are welcome.

Thank you in advance...

Roland Stolfa                Internet:    [e-mail]
Computer Science Department        Disclaimer:    You've lost your mind
219 Math Sciences Building                if you think anyone
Oklahoma State University                speaks for this place!

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INFO-CPM Digest             Mon, 23 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  138

Today's Topics:
                              ALTOS 580
                             msdos to cpm
                          MUSE Manuals Offer
                   Osbourne Kermit/Software Wanted
                            Re: ALTOS 580
              Re: Undocumented Z80 opcodes (film at 11)
                           small c problem
                          Software for trade
             Televideo 806/20 with TS 800A ??? Know it ??

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Date: 13 Nov 92 22:02:01 GMT
From: yale.edu!ira.uka.de!ira.uka.de!smurf.sub.org!altger!doitcr![e-mail]  (Helmut Jungkunz)
Subject: ALTOS 580
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi, whoever is in search of operating systems for the ALTOS 580, I think I can
help. I have OASIS, MPMII and CP/M2.2, under which NZCOM runs nicely (ZCPR34).
Also, I have the DIAGNOSTIC disc, which enables one to format, handle and park
fixed disks.

I am interested in exchanging custom programs for this computer. I have seen
ZMP and MEX Overlays for it, too.

 Waiting to hear from you people.

 Ciao, regards and cu,

 Helmut Jungkunz

------------------------------

Date: 9 Nov 92 01:49:00 GMT
From: tamsun.tamu.edu!zeus.tamu.edu![e-mail]  (ECKHARDT, JASON LEE)
Subject: msdos to cpm
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Anyone out there know of program that runs under msdos that will write cpm
disks? (on trs-80 model 4).

thanks, jason.   [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 09:14:17 -0500
From: Jay Sage <[e-mail]>
Subject: MUSE Manuals Offer
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

   I am cleaning up and throwing away tons of accummulated junk.  In the
process I came across a set of MUSE manuals, which I would be happy to ship
to someone who could use them.  If you don't don't what they are, you almost
surely don't need them, but for the curious, here are some short excerpts
from the manuals:

  "Welcome to MUSE" contains all information pertinent to version 4.01
  of the MUSE Operating System... It is assumed that you are familiar with
  computer basics and the CP/M Operating System... The Multi-User System
  Executive (MUSE) Operating System is OSM's proprietary operating system
  designed exclusively for the Zeus family of computer systems.  MUSE is
  CP/M-compatible and MP/M-II compatible for RM/COBOL and CB80."

It is even possible that I have the diskettes for this system.  If it is
important, I will try looking for them.

-- Jay Sage


------------------------------

Date: 9 Nov 92 02:00:47 GMT
From: <[e-mail]>[e-mail]
Subject: Osbourne Kermit/Software Wanted
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I recently acquired an old Obsourne 1, and would like to play around
with it - unfortunately, I'm having a bootstrapping problem, because I
don't have any telcommunications software for it.  If anyone could
send me a disk with kermit on it for the osbourne, I'd really
appreciate it - I'll definitely repay your for your time and costs.
Did anyone ever make a hard disk of any size for this machine?

I'd also appreciate the names or addresses of any user's group that
might have a library of software for this machine.

Finally, if anyone has any software around for this machine, and no
longer wants it, please let me know - I'd be interested in purchasing
it.

Thanks!

   Bill
   ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: 18 Nov 92 07:15:55 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!utcsri!skule.ecf!torn!nott!cunews!revcan!cerianthus!pinetree![e-mail]  (garth jones)
Subject: Re: ALTOS 580
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Helmut Jungkunz) writes:

> Hi, whoever is in search of operating systems for the ALTOS 580, I think I ca
> help. I have OASIS, MPMII and CP/M2.2, under which NZCOM runs nicely (ZCPR34)
> Also, I have the DIAGNOSTIC disc, which enables one to format, handle and par
> fixed disks.
>
> I am interested in exchanging custom programs for this computer. I have seen
> ZMP and MEX Overlays for it, too.

That would be me! I have four machine here of which 3 will work( the
forth start to strip for parts) I don't have much in the way of software
for Altos, But I do have allot for Kaypro's. How can I get the Os from
you? I would pay any cost if you can send them to me. My snail mail
address is

        51 Mc Intosh Place
        Kanata Ontario
        Canada
        K2L 2N7

My fido address is 1:163/411.5 and my internet address is at the bottom

        Garth
BTW I have infomation on this machine, Like how to format the HD, How to
increase the size of the HD, and What type of HD will work with it.

--
  Internet: [e-mail] (garth jones)
  UUCP: pinetree!garth
  Gordon's Pinetree -- Ottawa, ON, Canada -- [phone] -- v.32bis/v.42bis

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Date: 16 Nov 92 14:47:36 GMT
From: uw-coco!nwnexus!hitech![e-mail]  (Clyde Smith-Stubbs)
Subject: Re: Undocumented Z80 opcodes (film at 11)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] writes:

>Does anyone have a List
>of the UNdocumented op-codes
>For the Zilog Z80 Mirco processor

>Garret Flynn,
>Information Technology,
>University of Limerick,
               ^^^^^^^^
>Ireland,

    Young Garret, a man of great elocution,
    upon observing the Z80's execution,
        found its gate array included,
        many instructions that were excluded,
    from the official manufacturers publication!


Sorry! I couldn't resist!
--
 Clyde Smith-Stubbs       | HI-TECH Software,       | Voice: [phone]
 [e-mail]      | P.O. Box 103, Alderley, | Fax:   [phone]
 ...!nwnexus!hitech!clyde | QLD, 4051, AUSTRALIA.   | BBS:   [phone]
 HI-TECH Software: C Compilers for all manner of machines

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Date: 8 Nov 92 06:47:00 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!tamsun.tamu.edu!zeus.tamu.edu![e-mail]  (ECKHARDT, JASON LEE)
Subject: small c problem
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I just got smallc21 and it seems that I can't use the "%f" conversion
specifier with this compiler?!  Is this not built in this version or am
I supposed to include something? If this is a deficiency, is there another
pd compiler available with a full 'c' implementation? (ansi would be great).

jason.

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Date: 19 Nov 92 06:49:17 GMT
From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!news.cc.tut.fi![e-mail]  (Kentt{l{ Marko)
Subject: Software for trade
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I`ve got:
Turbo-Pascal 3.0
Macro-80 3.44 & link-80 3.41
Fortran-80 3.44
MuLISP-80 2.15
BASIC-80 5.26
Mac 2.0
Rmac 1.1 & link 1.31
BDS C 1.50
Algol-m 1.1
S-BASIC 5.26

and I`m more than willing to trade any/some of these to:
Z80 C compiler (Hi-Tech C, MIX C, Aztec C, ...)
Modula-2 compiler
Wordstar 3.1-4
Maths prog (Mumath, calcstar, ...)
or to almost anything...



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Date: 16 Nov 92 22:31:23 GMT
From: yale.edu!spool.mu.edu!agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!mcsun!news.funet.fi!funic!news.lut.fi![e-mail]  (Willi Messmer)
Subject: Televideo 806/20 with TS 800A ??? Know it ??
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Yes, I just received againa new piece of interesting hardware, a
Televideo 806/20 and a "computer/terminal" TS800A.
It has a 19Mb hardie.

The problem is connecting the computerm to the "server". Need to make
the cable.

If you have any knowlidge or info on this system, please contact me
by email. You could in your first mail include some descriptions on
the OS (cpm-80, MmmOST, cpm-86 etc. features, putting it to multiusers
mode ....)

Thanks

Willi
[e-mail]

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Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #123
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INFO-CPM Digest             Sun,  1 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  123

Today's Topics:
                Help reading TRS80 disks on an IBMPC.
                            MYZ80 ver 1.03
                        Re: 5v out serial port
                           Re: Wordstar 4.0
                            U.S. ftp sites
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Date: 31 Oct 92 15:29:53 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!bert.eecs.uic.edu!uicvm.uic.edu![e-mail]  (Bill Mentink)
Subject: Help reading TRS80 disks on an IBMPC.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Yes, I have just acquired one of these machines.  It reminds of high school.
And the problem is I would like to be able to read and write to the machine
so I can download programs to the machine (I don't have a terminal program,
nothing for the machine.  I haven't yet found anyone locally with the programs
yet (just started), so I am floating my request for help on the net.
Also, what about CPM for the machine (its a ModelIII w/h 64k and the double
drives.)

Thanks a lot,
Bill Mentink

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Date: Sun, 1 Nov 92 18:13:27 EST
From: [e-mail] (Clarence Wilkerson)
Subject: MYZ80 ver 1.03
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

The author has given me permission to distribute this via
anonymous FTP from hopf.math.purdue.edu (128.210.3.19). Other
sites are welcome to pick it up and distribute it also.
It's in the pub/cpm directory.
This is a full demonstration version, to be used only
for non-profit purposes.

The full version with more documentation is available as
shareware from the author and should be obtained if used for
education, software development or other commercial activity.
Here's the .DOC file:




             MicroFast Z80 Emulation Engine code,
                         MYZ80 API,
     and The MYZ80 Emulator Package Versions 1.xx are each:
              Copyright 1991,1992 Simeon Cran.





                            M Y Z 8 0
                            =========

                         by Simeon Cran.

Welcome to MYZ80!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
MYZ80 is a Z80/64180 emulator package. It was written to allow you
to finally get rid of those old Z80 computers which have done so
many fine years of service. The new 80386 machines with the fast
hard drives and the snazzy OS/2 operating systems are such a
delight... but for many, the Z80 machines still have to be fired
up from to time in order to develop code for CP/M and the Z80
chip. Well, not any more, thanks to MYZ80.

Other emulators on the market are less than satisfactory
solutions. Of the small number which can actually run without
causing system errors under the later versions of DOS, apparently
none are capable of running real CP/M. Instead they use an
emulated version of CP/M which is only as accurate as the
developers have bothered to make it.

None can run CP/M 3.0, and none can run ZCPR (which is such a
useful Z80 developer's environment). Add to that their less than
perfect Z80 emulation and slow overall performance, and until
MYZ80, the 'real' Z80 machines were destined to remain in the
office.

MYZ80 provides the solution being conceived, born and nurtured to
the point where it is now the most useful Z80 emulator package
ever!


MYZ80 features.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
MYZ80 emulates the instruction set of the 8080, Z80 and Z180/64180
CPU chips. It does this with the "MicroFast Z80 Emulation Engine"
which is a very highly tuned piece of code designed to be as fast
and as accurate as technically possible on 80286, 80386 and 80486
CPUs.

MYZ80 provides an interface (the MYZ80 API) to the host computer
which allows real Z80 BDOSes to run in the MYZ80 environment. This
interface provides disk and character I/O as well as two banks of
64k RAM (with common area) and a large RAM disk. These unique
features allow MYZ80 to run 'real' CP/M 2.2, CP/M 3.0, Z-System
and ZPM3.

MYZ80 is designed for the latest multitasking operating systems
and makes Z80 programs 'host friendly'. MYZ80 will share time very
fairly with the host. Even multiple instances of MYZ80 are
supported.

MYZ80 can take advantage of the latest computer hardware for
increased performance. The Microfast Z80 Emulation Engine operates
in either 16 (80286) or 32 (80386/80486) bit mode depending on the
capabilities of the host computer.

MYZ80 runs beautifully on IBM AT compatible (or better) computers
under DOS 3.3 compatible (or later) operating systems. This
includes running under OS/2 2.0, Desqview, and Windows 3.x.


Starting MYZ80.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
MYZ80 is started from the DOS command line by simply typing the
name of its executable (CPM). However, advanced users may wish to
include optional arguments on the command line.

The first argument is the name of a boot file to be used instead
of the default (BOOT.CPM), and following arguments are saved by
MYZ80 and may be retrieved from within the MYZ80 environment.

MYZ80 always looks for its support files in the directory it
resides in. Therefore, you may start MYZ80 from any directory or
disk, and it will always find its support files (as long as they
are in the same directory as CPM.EXE).

MYZ80 may be run from a floppy disk (although a hard disk is
recommended). To do so, put CPM.EXE and the support files onto the
floppy disk, and start the program.


Leaving MYZ80.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
There are two ways to exit from the MYZ80 environment. You may
select the 'Abort and exit' choice from the pause box menu, or you
may run the MYZ80 utility QUIT.COM. The latter method also allows
you to specify an error level to return to DOS with (for use in
batch files).


Further information.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Some explanations of the terms used above and further information
will be displayed to you when you start MYZ80 for the first time.
Legal information is provided in the file READ.1ST which was
supplied with this package. All the MYZ80 utilities have online
help. Other support files for MYZ80 should be provided in the
future and will probably be available from the place where you
found this package.


The version of MYZ80 that you have now may not be perfect, but it
is pretty close! It has been released so that as many people as
possible can join the MYZ80 revolution, and keep CP/M and Z80
alive for years to come. Please enjoy it.



Simeon Cran.




     *************************************************************
     Acknowledgments:
     Due to all the great help,  I feel  compelled to  acknowledge
     the support given by a number of people in the "Z" community.
     Especially Bruce Dudley (Sysop of Z-Node 62 in Perth, Western
     Australia), and the handful of crash testers in Australia and
     around  the  world.  And  to  all  those  people   who  truly
     appreciate  the  elegance  of   the  art   of  machine   code
     optimization, please enjoy "MYZ80 by Simeon Cran."
     *************************************************************



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Date: 31 Oct 92 19:43:17 GMT
From: world![e-mail]  (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: 5v out serial port
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Radio Shack sells a little RS-232 tester for under $20 which could show if
your Kaypro is putting out the proper signals.  It's about the size of a
null-modem adapter, with seven two-color LEDs on it.  You can leave it plugged
into the computer for neat-looking blinky lights.  By the way, does your
modem have lights?  Do any of them light up when it's connected to the Kaypro?
It's possible you could have damaged the modem by plugging it into the Amiga
with power on (making a squelching noise?).  You could also damage the Amiga.
If you use the same modem with two computers,  you should get an A/B switch.

Bill Marcum  [e-mail]

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Date: 31 Oct 92 15:30:46 GMT
From: hsdndev!news.cs.umb.edu![e-mail]  (Edward P. Piecewicz)
Subject: Re: Wordstar 4.0
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Curt Schroeder) writes:
>
>Wordstar 4.0 in no longer available from MicroPro, but it can be had from
>a company that Micropro gave distribution rights to.  I don't have the company
>name and address handy (the infor is at home).  Someone else posted the infor
>during the last month or so.  So perhaps that person could post the info
>again for Uwe Nass?

Wordstar 4.0 for the Commodore 128 computers is available from TENEX Computer
Express in Mishawaka, IN.  1-800-PROMPT-1


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Date: 31 Oct 92 15:34:01 GMT
From: hsdndev!news.cs.umb.edu![e-mail]  (Edward P. Piecewicz)
Subject: U.S. ftp sites
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I just subscribed to comp.os.cpm today.  Could someone post a listing of the
known ftp sites in the U.S. where CP/M files can be obtained?

Thank you.


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Today's Topics:
                         22disk entry wanted
                           Re: CP/M to DOS
                    Re: televideo wordstar eproms
                 Re: What the heck is this thing????
                       small-c 21 won't compile
                         TRS-80 to MSDOS....
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Date: 30 Oct 92 00:33:59 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!aukuni.ac.nz!kcbbs![e-mail]  (Richard Plinston)
Subject: 22disk entry wanted
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

    >>> Disk parameters for ICL 35/36 or Quattro

    Put a Quattro discette in the drive. log to it (ie B:<enter>)
    the type SHOW DEVS<enter>.  Physically they are 10 sectors per
    track, 80 track double sided.  36 reserved sectors.

    The Quattro can read/write IBM 360 Kb discs and Altos discs of
    some type.  See the OPTION command.  If IBM 360 can't be selected
    use CONFIG to include PC MODE, reboot and try again.

    Did you not get my earlier message on this ?



------------------------------

Date: 31 Oct 92 17:05:39 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!math.fu-berlin.de!unidui!Germany.EU.net!news.netmbx.de!zelator![e-mail]  (Mathias Niemz)
Subject: Re: CP/M to DOS
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

22dsk from sydex runs fine on my old 386sx but not on my new 486 mashine
(Teac drives).
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Date: 27 Oct 92 03:34:30 GMT
From: van-bc!cs.ubc.ca!utcsri!rpi!uwm.edu!caen!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.unomaha.edu!cwis![e-mail]  (John Winslade)
Subject: Re: televideo wordstar eproms
Message-ID: <winslade.720156870@cwis>

"blair groves" <[e-mail]> writes:

>Anybody have one of the WordStar proms that re-defines the TeleVideo
>keyboard on a model 925 or model 950 terminal, or TS-800/803/803H/TPC-I
>computer to fully support WordStar?

I've known of the problems getting the arrow keys to work, but this is the
first I've heard of a new ROM.  Is this a standard issue Telewidget product
or a third-party add on ??

Good day       JSW

------------------------------

Date: 26 Oct 92 02:25:56 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!metro!ipso!fawlty![e-mail]  (Steve Blanche)
Subject: Re: What the heck is this thing????
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Scott Wilken) writes:
>A friend of mine just bought what he thought was an apple compatable
[deleted bits here]
>chip numbered 6505, and a square chip in a square socket with no lettering
>on it (although a big heat sink is attached, so im thinking this thing myst
>be the CPU).
>
>It wont accept a DOS disk, so im figuring it must be a CPM machine or
>something.
>
>Has anyone seen this?  It was made in 1984 by Wang and has a model number of
>WOA-20.  If anyone has any info on what the heck this is, and what operating
>system it uses, or at least can tell me how to contact Wang, I would be
>very grateful.
Yep, Wang Office Assistant, primarily a dedicated Word Processor, used a
80186 CPU, I repaired those boxes back in '85 -'86  not very exciting,
they did have some packages other than Wordprocessing, incl. spreadsheet and
communications packages, sorry, it didnt support MS-DOS or other 'known'
operating systems. If I remember correctly, the WOA-20 had a 360k floppy
and a WOA-40 incl a 10 MB h/disk  and were sold with a printer eg Diablo.
You could use it for parts, or rip the m/bd out and buy more suitable
m/bd.
>
Steve



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Date: 27 Oct 92 18:09:25 GMT
From: yale.edu!ira.uka.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!ifi![e-mail]  (Weber)
Subject: small-c 21 won't compile
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have tried Small-C 21 from Simtel, but everytime the
compiler aborted with something like disc error on A:,
even if B: was default drive.
Has someone got the same errors ?

Where can I get the docs for this version (yes I know,
in some ancient issue of dr dobbs, but I haven't access
to them and I'd prefer something machine-readable)?

Directory: PD2:<CPM.SMALLC21>
 Filename   Type Length   Date   Description
==============================================
SMC21LIB.LBR  B   62848  850401  Small-C Compiler ver. 2.1 part #3
SMC21OBJ.LBR  B   59776  850401  Small-C Compiler ver. 2.1 part #2
SMC21SRC.LBR  B   58880  850401  Small-C Compiler ver. 2.1 part #1
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Student am Institut fuer Informatik
Universitaet Stuttgart - Germany

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 92 19:47:41 EST
From: [e-mail] (Etop Udoh)
Subject: TRS-80 to MSDOS....
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

hi,

   As far as I know, the Model 4/4D/4P will run CP/M without any other
modifications, as opposed to at least the Model III which I'm aware of
which requires a hardware board....forgot who makes it....

   Anyway, theres a program/utility called supercross XT or something
of that nature which allows you to read and write other operating systems
including MSDOS but this runs under the MOdel III operating system and
Model 4 Trsdos.....

   For CP/M, there's a customized CP/M called Montezuma Micro CP/M
which comes with a system configuration program which allows you to read
, write and format different kinds of CP/M disks on your model 4 and it
also takes into consideration what kind of floppy you have, single sided,
double sided, quad density (80 track), etc....
   By the way, this is CP/M 2.2 which is far superior to Radio Shack's
 CP/M 3.0......and also available (don't know where you can find it these
days ) for this CP/M is "Monte's Toolkit" which includes disk formating
and reading utilities, including a virtual file utility for moving files
between CP/M, TRSDOS, or MSDOS.....

  As for the latter program, Supercross XT, I believe there was also an
Ibm/tandy version which allowed you to read TRS-80 disks on a DOS machine...

  The CP/M 2.2 is still currently available from a company somewhere......
the information escapes me at the moment, but I know places that still sell
TRS-80 Software and hardware


   current updated stuff available for this defunct line of computers are:

  mouse
  3 1/2" floppies
  realtime clocks
  conversion for gif files to TRS-80 high res-graphics board format
  mouse to keyboard interface
  mouse drivers...
  external drive modification using the 50 pin rear connector


  I myself have (my original computer), a TRS-80 4P, non-gate array,
 128k, high-res graphics card, and other hardware modifications...

  As far as communications programs, there's quite a bit in public
domain, including XModem and Kermit standalone programs....

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Date: 29 Oct 92 17:30:18 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx![e-mail]  (The Monster of Peladon)
Subject: WANTED: Screen Print Enlargement Software for CP/M
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Greetings:

    I'm looking for a program in CP/M, which will enlarge letters on the
monitor screen.  I currently use a Morrow MD-3.  If anyone out there knows of
such a thing, I'd be interested in receiving email about it.  Thanks very much
in advance.


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INFO-CPM Digest             Tue,  3 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  125

Today's Topics:
               Chris Rutowski -- Rising Star Industries
                        Kermit for Cromemco's
                       Re: 22disk entry wanted
                        Re: Kaypro 4 keyboard
                            What is MYZ80?
                         ZMODEM for CP/M ???

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Date: 27 Oct 92 19:47:35 GMT
From: concert!glv![e-mail]  (Richard Carpenter)
Subject: Chris Rutowski -- Rising Star Industries
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Does anyone know of Chris Rutowski or Rising Star Industries? They
wrote all the Valdocs software that ran on TPM on the Epson QX-10
around 1984, then went bust because Epson screwed them.

I would like to have his mailing address.

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Date: 2 Nov 92 13:39:32 GMT
From: ub!galileo.cc.rochester.edu!ee.rochester.edu![e-mail]  (Bob Kaser)
Subject: Kermit for Cromemco's
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi all.

We have a few Cromemco CS-1 computers running CDOS/CPM and some local, 10
year old, communications software.  The University has changed the
communications structure and this software is now flaky at best.  We
would like to run some version of kermit so that atleast we have standard
software and documentation as to its functionality.

These Cromemco computers only have floppy drives and serial ports so
thatwe are limited how we can obtain software.  When I contacted
Columbia they could ship us the version for our machine but not on media
that we can use.

My question is, does any one have kermit for a cromemco CS-1 that I can
get/buy/whatever on a 5 1/4 inch floppy?  Any other suggestions would
greatly be appreciated also.


Bob Kaser
System Programmer
Univ of Rochester
Dept of Elect. Eng.

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Date: 2 Nov 92 07:48:41 GMT
From: newsflash.concordia.ca!ccu.umanitoba.ca!mizar.cc.umanitoba.ca![e-mail]  (Dan Fandrich)
Subject: Re: 22disk entry wanted
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Alan Knowles) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Adriaan de Groot) writes:
>|> SO -- could I ask someone (all eight of you?)
>|> to Email me the relevant chunk of the file --
>|> the disk parameters for an ICL model 35/36 or
>|> an ICL Quattro (dunno if that's in the list) --
>|> then, heck, I'd be eternally grateful.
>
>I think you might have a little trouble with the ICL Quattro.
>I vaguely remember when I tried it that the number of reserved tracks was
>not an integer, so the directory started partway into a track. No software
>I could find could cope with this.

This can be handled with 22DISK, at least version 1.30 or better; use
the SOFS parameter instead of OFS.  From the manual:

       SOFS  indicates the number of sectors that are  used  for  storing
            the  CP/M  system  and  BIOS at the beginning of a diskette.
            SOFS is used when the number of sectors used by the CP/M  is
            not  an  integral  number of tracks,  such as for the Coleco
            Adam.

>>> Dan
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Date: 2 Nov 92 15:27:06 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!hri.com!noc.near.net!bigboote.WPI.EDU!wpi.WPI.EDU![e-mail]  (Louis J. Curran Jr)
Subject: Re: Kaypro 4 keyboard
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Rogers George) writes:
>
>I discovered I don't have a working keyboard cable!
>
>The K-4 keyboard conection is a 4-position modular. I tried an old terminal
>(vt220 I think) keyboard cable I had laying around, then hacked it so the pins
>were straight through (pin 1 to 1, etc., UNlike telephone handset cords) and
>tried again. No go.
>
>What are the pin assignments for this puppy? Is just one* of the pairs
>reversed? are the inside and outside pairs swapped somewhere along the line?
>Did I fry my keyboard on the first try? (if so, what did I fry? can I fix it?
>does a kb like this exist anywhere else in creation?)
>

All Kaypro CPM machines use the telephone cable. You can use or borrow the
cable from any telephone handset. If your machine is dysfunctional, the
problem lies elsewhere.

------------------------------

Date: 27 Oct 92 22:04:54 GMT
From: comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!naos![e-mail]  (Ewen McNeill)
Subject: What is MYZ80?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I've received a number of email messages asking what MyZ80 is, and what
it does.  I didn't post this in my last message because there had been
some discussion recently.  To answer the question, here's a bit of the
documentation file...

--- cut here --- cut here --- cut here ---
                            M Y Z 8 0
                            =========

                         by Simeon Cran.

Welcome to MYZ80!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
MYZ80 is a Z80/64180 emulator package. It was written to allow you
to finally get rid of those old Z80 computers which have done so
many fine years of service. The new 80386 machines with the fast
hard drives and the snazzy OS/2 operating systems are such a
delight... but for many, the Z80 machines still have to be fired
up from to time in order to develop code for CP/M and the Z80
chip. Well, not any more, thanks to MYZ80.

Other emulators on the market are less than satisfactory
solutions. Of the small number which can actually run without
causing system errors under the later versions of DOS, apparently
none are capable of running real CP/M. Instead they use an
emulated version of CP/M which is only as accurate as the
developers have bothered to make it.

None can run CP/M 3.0, and none can run ZCPR (which is such a
useful Z80 developer's environment). Add to that their less than
perfect Z80 emulation and slow overall performance, and until
MYZ80, the 'real' Z80 machines were destined to remain in the
office.

MYZ80 provides the solution being conceived, born and nurtured to
the point where it is now the most useful Z80 emulator package
ever!

MYZ80 features.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
MYZ80 emulates the instruction set of the 8080, Z80 and Z180/64180
CPU chips. It does this with the "MicroFast Z80 Emulation Engine"
which is a very highly tuned piece of code designed to be as fast
and as accurate as technically possible on 80286, 80386 and 80486
CPUs.

MYZ80 provides an interface (the MYZ80 API) to the host computer
which allows real Z80 BDOSes to run in the MYZ80 environment. This
interface provides disk and character I/O as well as two banks of
64k RAM (with common area) and a large RAM disk. These unique
features allow MYZ80 to run 'real' CP/M 2.2, CP/M 3.0, Z-System
and ZPM3.

MYZ80 is designed for the latest multitasking operating systems
and makes Z80 programs 'host friendly'. MYZ80 will share time very
fairly with the host. Even multiple instances of MYZ80 are
supported.

MYZ80 can take advantage of the latest computer hardware for
increased performance. The Microfast Z80 Emulation Engine operates
in either 16 (80286) or 32 (80386/80486) bit mode depending on the
capabilities of the host computer.

MYZ80 runs beautifully on IBM AT compatible (or better) computers
under DOS 3.3 compatible (or later) operating systems. This
includes running under OS/2 2.0, Desqview, and Windows 3.x.
--- cut here --- cut here --- cut here ---

And a little bit detailing the system requirements, from the readme
file.

--- cut here --- cut here --- cut here ---
                       System Requirements.
                       ====================

For MYZ80 to work at all it needs:
IBM AT compatible (or better)
300k free RAM
DOS 3.3 or later
Disk drive

MYZ80 can also make good use of the following system  resources if
available (None of these is required to get  good performance  out
of MYZ80):
Hard disk drive
More than 300k free RAM
DOS 5.00
XMS memory
Multi-tasker (such as OS/2 2.x, Desqview or Windows 3.x)
32 bit CPU (80386,80486)
--- cut here --- cut here --- cut here ---

MyZ80 does meet it's claims, at least for me.  I'm running it on a
286/10, and the emulated environment is almost as fast as a 3/4Mhz Z80
running native.  On a faster machine, it'd be amazing to use.

To repeat the bit from the previous post; the latest version of MyZ80 is
version 1.03.  I've received several "where can I get it requests".
Because the only site I know that it is definitely on is a long way off
the net and pays for all traffic both incomming and outgoing, I don't
want to post the site address.  Please if I've emailed you the address
and you've retrieved it, would you _please_ upload it to some of the
bigger archive sites (could someone post a message when they've uploaded
it to Simtel, eg).  Thank you.

--
Ewen McNeill, [e-mail] (or [e-mail])

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Date: 2 Nov 92 08:55:22 GMT
From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!cc.tut.fi![e-mail]  (Kentt{l{ Marko)
Subject: ZMODEM for CP/M ???
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi there !

I'd like to have ZMODEM documentation or source (ZMP doesn't come with source)
so if any of you have it, just E-mail it to [e-mail], please.
JMODEM would be even better...

Thanks.


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INFO-CPM Digest             Wed,  4 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  126

Today's Topics:
                       Re: 22disk entry wanted
                        Re: 5v out serial port
                       Re: ZMODEM for CP/M ???
                      televideo wordstar eproms
                           TRS80 and MS-DOS
                            WHAT IS MYZ80?

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Date: 27 Oct 92 15:03:52 GMT
From: yale.edu!jvnc.net!gmd.de!Germany.EU.net!mcsun!uknet!mucs![e-mail]  (Alan Knowles)
Subject: Re: 22disk entry wanted
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Adriaan de Groot) writes:
|> A while back I asked about copying files
|> from CP/M to MSDOS, and eight of you wrote
|> back 'use 22disk,' so I ftped it from
|> Berlin, and it's great. Thanks y'all.
|>
|> SO -- could I ask someone (all eight of you?)
|> to Email me the relevant chunk of the file --
|> the disk parameters for an ICL model 35/36 or
|> an ICL Quattro (dunno if that's in the list) --
|> then, heck, I'd be eternally grateful.

I think you might have a little trouble with the ICL Quattro.
I vaguely remember when I tried it that the number of reserved tracks was
not an integer, so the directory started partway into a track. No software
I could find could cope with this.



===========================================================================
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Date: 2 Nov 92 16:34:20 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu![e-mail]  (CP/M lives!)
Subject: Re: 5v out serial port
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>     I have a Hayes compatible modem which, when I plug it into my Amiga,
> makes a sort of "squelch", indicating that the serial is supplying it with
> eliectricity.  It does no such thing when I plug it into the Kaypro, and,
> not surprisingly, does not respond to Hayes-commands (ATH0, etc.).  It just
> sits there.
>     Parting from this, I'll rephrase my original question:
>
>     IS the +/- 9v output in the Kaypro a sufficient standard to assume
> that my Amiga puts out the same quantity?  If this is so, then the serial
> on the Kaypro IS damaged, as the modem receives no power.

Modems are not supposed to be _powered_ from the serial port. The Amiga does
provide +12V power for external devices, but this is not _standard_ behavior.
The only thing modems are supposed to take from the serial port are modem
signals.
--

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                                 into mutants!"

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Date: 2 Nov 92 20:25:03 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!ogicse!news.u.washington.edu!glia![e-mail]  (Jeff Foy)
Subject: Re: ZMODEM for CP/M ???
Message-ID: <jfoy.720735903@glia>

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kentt{l{ Marko) writes:


>Hi there !

>I'd like to have ZMODEM documentation or source (ZMP doesn't come with source)
>so if any of you have it, just E-mail it to [e-mail], please.
>JMODEM would be even better...

You should check out HMODEM-II which ZMP and RZMP were based upon. It
comes with source in C. As to Jmodem, source has always been available
for that one. Both in C and in ASM.

--
Jeffery Foy -- [e-mail]
             *** FREE BILL & KATHY SWAN ***
-*- Happy as a clam to be using Professional YAM -*-  :)

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Date: 27 Oct 92 22:04:45 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![blair.groves%canrem.com]@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (blair groves)
Subject: televideo wordstar eproms
Message-ID: <1992Oct27.4443.3074@dosgate>

-> >Anybody have one of the WordStar proms that re-defines the TeleVideo
-> >keyboard on a model 925 or model 950 terminal, or
-> TS-800/803/803H/TPC-I >computer to fully support WordStar?

(John Winslade writes:)
->
-> I've known of the problems getting the arrow keys to work, but this
-> is the first I've heard of a new ROM.  Is this a standard issue
-> Telewidget product or a third-party add on ??

This was not very widely spread, but I once knew a fellow that had this
eprom on his TS-803... it even came with special key caps. The product
was a third-party add-on.

Also, related info: there was a product from Digital Engineering in
Sacramento, [phone] that gave the TeleVideo 910, 912, 920, 925
and 950 Tektronix 4027 and 4010 emulation... also Selanar Graphics in
Santa Clara, [phone] offered a similar product.

Sorry to say that I can't tell you who had the WordStar modification for
these units though.

BTW, WordStar has no problem with these terminals, except that the
control commands are different than produced by the editing keys, so you
have to use the ctrl-key, as per normal for WordStar on most machines.

[e-mail]
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 92 11:11:30 GMT
From: Christopher Currie <[e-mail]>
Subject: TRS80 and MS-DOS
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

>>
>Date: Mon, 2 Nov 92 19:47:41 EST
>From: [e-mail] (Etop Udoh)
>Subject: TRS-80 to MSDOS....
>Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>
>hi,
>
>   As far as I know, the Model 4/4D/4P will run CP/M without any other
>modifications,

Yes, it will.

> as opposed to at least the Model III which I'm aware of
>which requires a hardware board....forgot who makes it....

There were boards made by Memory Merchant (Shuffleboard), Holmes,
and Omikron (the Mapper).
>
>   Anyway, theres a program/utility called supercross XT or something
>of that nature which allows you to read and write other operating systems
>including MSDOS but this runs under the MOdel III operating system and
>Model 4 Trsdos.....
>
>
There is also PC-CRoss-Zap, which runs under MS-DOS on the PC, and
is supplied by Hypersoft at:

    PO Box 51155, Raleigh, NC 27609 USA

They also make Hypercross which runs on the Model III and allows
you to read-write, under TRS-80 operating systems, PC and CP/M
disks.

>   For CP/M, there's a customized CP/M called Montezuma Micro
CP/M

>   By the way, this is CP/M 2.2 which is far superior to Radio Shack's
> CP/M 3.0......and also available (don't know where you can find it these
>days ) for this CP/M is "Monte's Toolkit" which includes disk formating
>and reading utilities, including a virtual file utility for moving files
>between CP/M, TRSDOS, or MSDOS.....
>
They also did Monte's Window, a TSR with notepad, calculator,
calendar, etc.

There are memory-mapped versions of some software, e.g. Wordstar
3.3, around for the Model 4.

>   current updated stuff available for this defunct line of computers are:
>
... goodies deleted...

>  external drive modification using the 50 pin rear connector

You shouldn't need a mod for the Model III, which is built to take
two internal and two external drives. It's the Model 4P that has
to be modified to take more than two drives.

Christopher Currie

[e-mail]

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Date: 2 Nov 92 20:20:00 GMT
From: decvax!bville.gts.org![e-mail] (Greg Vigneault)
Subject: WHAT IS MYZ80?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

 In message-ID: <[e-mail]>
 Subj: What is MYZ80?
 [e-mail] (Ewen McNeill) writes...

EM> To repeat the bit from the previous post; the latest version of
  > MyZ80 is version 1.03.  I've received several "where can I get it
  > requests". Because the only site I know that it is definitely on
  > is a long way off the net and pays for all traffic both incomming
  > and outgoing, I don't want to post the site address.

 In the Toronto, Canada, area it can be found (MYZ80103.ZIP, 75k)
 on Baudeville BBS at [phone].  Go through the call-back
 verification to get download access.

 Greg Vigneault

 Nov.02.1992.Toronto.Canada.
 [e-mail]


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Date: Fri,  6 Nov 92 23:45:09 MST
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INFO-CPM Digest             Fri,  6 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  127

Today's Topics:
                        CP/M emulator for MAC?
       Forward-chaining, Rete-type, OPS5 languages under CP/M ?
                      Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy !!!
                            PD C Compiler?
                        Re: 5v out serial port
              Re: Help reading TRS80 disks on an IBMPC.
                          Re: PD C Compiler?
                   Re: Turbo Pascal for a Kaypro II
                                vixen

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Date: 3 Nov 92 23:53:18 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!europa.asd.contel.com!paladin.american.edu!news.univie.ac.at!hp4at!mcsun!sunic!corax.udac.uu.se!tdb![e-mail]  (Mikael Kristoffersson)
Subject: CP/M emulator for MAC?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello CP/M world and lovers!

Does anyone know if there is a CP/M emulator for the Macintosh?
Or maybe any source-code to port? I would like to hear about it
if there is...

All I have seen so far is for MS/DOS or UNIX.

I do got a swedish CP/P comuter called JET-80, but my desk-top
is not large enough for the MAC QUADRA and the JET-80 :-(

I hope there is a solution to this...


********************************************************************************
Mikael Kristoffersson,                           E-mail [e-mail]
Uppsala, SWEDEN

------------------------------

Date: 2 Nov 92 18:59:38 GMT
From: pa.dec.com!sousa.ltn.dec.com!kxovax.enet.dec.com![e-mail]  (Strong datatypes for weak minds.)
Subject: Forward-chaining, Rete-type, OPS5 languages under CP/M ?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

    Anybody seen an OPS5-like language under CP/M and/or something
    somebody did under XLISP perhaps ?  One was produced years ago
    for CP/M but I haven't been able to find anyone who still has
    it.

    Regards,
    rcs

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 10:19:50 CST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy !!!

I now have MYZ80 (demo) up and running and am very happy.  However I got off
SIMTEL the Forth programming language package Uniforth and got it to give
myz80 trouble.  When I went to edit a screen I was given a invalide instruction
error.  I don't have it were with me so I can't give you the code.  I hope this
helps in futher revisions of myz80.  I love my old ADAM CP/M but I have to face
the facts; myz80 is faster (about 5X or better) on my 486 33Mhz, and is easier
to use as far as transportability goes.  I will still fire up my ADAM but out
of respect for the years it carried me through college.  I used Uniforth for
years with no problems on my ADAM and if this problem gets fixed I will
register asap.  Thank you MYZ80-master!!!

*******************************************************************************
*     C makes you think C is the worlds greatest programming language.        *
*       Forth makes you think your the worlds greatest programmer!            *
*******************************************************************************
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*******************************************************************************

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Date: 2 Nov 92 16:59:22 GMT
From: sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!torn!utzoo!censor!geac!alias!afc![e-mail]  (Andy Hunt)
Subject: PD C Compiler?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

(oops -- had a small problem there, lets try again:)

Hi, I'm looking for a reasonable C compiler for my old MAX-80.
Either a native compiler, or a cross compiler that I can
run under Unix.  Is there anything available?

Is there anyone else out there who has a MAX-80 from Lobo Systems?

Thanks!

/\ndy

Andy Hunt                      Work: [e-mail]
Sr. Software Designer          Home: [e-mail]
Alias Research                 // Cry Havoc, and let slip the Dogs of War.

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Date: 30 Oct 92 15:23:51 GMT
From: destroyer!caen!nic.umass.edu!hamp.hampshire.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Re: 5v out serial port
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bruce H. McIntosh) writes:
> In article <[e-mail]>
> [e-mail] writes:

>>Anybody had their serial port NOT put out the 5 volts it's supposed to?
>>Anybody care to take a guess at how diffucult it would be to fix?
>
> If your serial port is a real, live RS232 (RS232 standard - there's a front
> runner for oxymoron of the month! :-) ), it is NOT supposed to put out 5vdc!
> RS232 works with a voltage swing of +/- 9vdc.
>
    Well, the "5 volts" was supplied by a friend of mine who may or may
not know what he's talking about, but certainly knows more than me.  What I
meant to say is that, whatever the voltage is, it's not putting out the right
kind of juice.
    I have a Hayes compatible modem which, when I plug it into my Amiga,
makes a sort of "squelch", indicating that the serial is supplying it with
eliectricity.  It does no such thing when I plug it into the Kaypro, and,
not surprisingly, does not respond to Hayes-commands (ATH0, etc.).  It just
sits there.
    Parting from this, I'll rephrase my original question:

    IS the +/- 9v output in the Kaypro a sufficient standard to assume
that my Amiga puts out the same quantity?  If this is so, then the serial
on the Kaypro IS damaged, as the modem receives no power.

    You've probably noticed by now that I don't have a voltage meter.
I know it's gauche to use a hayes-comp. as a meter (or LED) for my serial
ports, but hey...  :-)

                [e-mail]

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Date: 3 Nov 92 21:25:31 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!news.belwue.de!math.fu-berlin.de!mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news.netmbx.de!zelator![e-mail]  (Mathias Niemz)
Subject: Re: Help reading TRS80 disks on an IBMPC.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Watch out with some Tandy mashines. They have a strange CP/M starting
at 4000h (Pickels & Throut or so ????)
--
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 When all else fails, read the instructions...

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Date: 4 Nov 92 02:05:06 GMT
From: access.usask.ca!ccu.umanitoba.ca!mizar.cc.umanitoba.ca![e-mail]  (Dan Fandrich)
Subject: Re: PD C Compiler?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Andy Hunt) writes:
>Hi, I'm looking for a reasonable C compiler for my old MAX-80.
>Either a native compiler, or a cross compiler that I can
>run under Unix.  Is there anything available?

Two public domain C compilers I know of are Small-C (the DDJ version), and
Micro-C.  Small-C is available at SIMTEL-20 (in the CPM.SMALLC21 directory)
and I forget where I got Micro-C (look for MC132 with archie).  I do know
the version I ftp'd had a critical file corrupted so it was useless for
Z80 code.  If I find a good version I'll post a note here.

>>> Dan
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Date: 29 Oct 92 04:14:23 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!scd.hp.com!hpscdm!hplextra!hpcss01!hpergfg2!hprdash!hprnd![e-mail]  (Greg Holdren)
Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal for a Kaypro II
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

  Sage Microsystems East:
  1435 Centre St.
  Newton Centre, MA 02159-2469
  [phone] Voice 9-11AM
  [phone] BSS

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Date: 30 Oct 92 18:54:24 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![barry.ross%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (barry ross)
Subject: vixen
Message-ID: <1992Oct30.4443.3086@dosgate>

I  am presently looking for two second hand Vixen  computers  for
sale.  Any leads?
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INFO-CPM Digest             Sun,  8 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  128

Today's Topics:
                                MIX C
     MYZ80103.ZIP - Simeon Cran's Z80 CP/M and Z-System emulator
                            PD C compiler?
                        Re: 5v out serial port
                  Re: I just got a Z80 CP/M (2 msgs)
                      Re: Missing DataStar file
                                vixen

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Date: 7 Nov 92 12:38:52 GMT
From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!psinntp!psinntp!blkbox![e-mail]  (Blake Scruggs)
Subject: MIX C
Message-ID: <1992Nov07.123852.25213@blkbox>

If * Anyone * has "MIX C" and would like to sell it, I would be interested
From what I understand, It's a CP/M based cross compiler for "C".
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 02:51:40 EST
From: "Paul V. Pullen"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: MYZ80103.ZIP - Simeon Cran's Z80 CP/M and Z-System emulator
Summary: Reposted by Keith Petersen
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have uploaded to WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil:

pd1:<msdos.emulators>
MYZ80103.ZIP    Simeon Cran's Z80 CP/M and Z-System emulator

Simeon Cran created MYZ80 for operations on AT-class machines.  It will run
both CP/M and Z-System programs.  It is designed to run on an 80x86 processor,
and apparently will run both CP/M version 2.2 and 3.0.  Ewen McNeill had a
glowing report on MYZ80 in issue 125, Volume 92 of the INFO-CPM Digest.

paul pullen
- -
Paul V. Pullen
U. S. Army Chemical Research, Development & Engineering Center
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Comm 1-410-671-2519                              [e-mail]

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Date: 2 Nov 92 15:41:48 GMT
From: casey!gaboon!afc![e-mail]  (Usenet News Feed)
Subject: PD C compiler?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi, I'm looking for a reasonable C compiler for my old MAX-80.
Either a native compiler, or a cross compiler that I can
run under Unix.  Is there anything available?

Is there anyone else out there who has a MAX-80 from Lobo Systems?

Thanks!

/\ndy

------------------------------

Date: 30 Oct 92 17:41:23 GMT
From: sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!The-Star.honeywell.com!umn.edu!noc.msc.net!uc.msc.edu!shamash!timbuk.cray.com!hemlock.cray.com![e-mail].  (Otto Tennant)
Subject: Re: 5v out serial port
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

The RS-232 standard, defines a "mark" as a voltage between +3V and
+12V; a "space" as a voltage between -12V and -3V (or, just possibly,
the other way around.)  (And just maybe 15V, not 12V?)  Notice that 0V
doesn't "mean" anything.

However, folks noticed that 0V and +5V would "operate" many modems,
even though it shouldn't.

If you are seeing 0V and +5V, you are probably trying to plug directly
into the UART, which is maybe not the best thing in the world to do;
it was intended that there be some sort of line driver between the
UART and the rest of the world.  I would not care to guess what
happens to one of those chips if it is connected to a modem which
applies -12V to the input.
--
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Date: 5 Nov 92 21:58:13 GMT
From: pipex!demon!skewsby.demon.co.uk![e-mail]  (Simon J Hopkins)
Subject: Re: I just got a Z80 CP/M
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Adrian Silveanu) writes:

> Hello !
> I just got a Z80 CP/M computer from a friend.
> I has a to floppy drives. Comes with a system disk, and a copy of
> WordStar. Well it was interest messing around with this computer, and
> now I want to know more!
>
> This is what I would like to find out:
>
> Where there ever any CP/M computers with a moniter other than mono?
>
> Could somebody tell me where I can find games and other programs for this
> thing? FTP's?
>
> Is the the CP/M Market dead?
>
> Does anybody have a CP/M system manual on file?
>
> Well that is about it for now, thanks!
>
> Adrian Silveanu
> [e-mail]
>
> P.S. Could you please send all your answers to my E-Mail address, because
>      I do not usually read this news group.
>
> P.P.S. Oh yes! One more thing. Is it possible to network my CP/M Computer
>     to my IBM? Through the serial port?
>
>
>
>

Read this one with interest, in the UK the Amstrad PCW range (CP/M based) still
selling well. Magazines still published to support it, together with huge range of application software and GAMES.

I don't have one myself, although do still own a CP/M machine, that also runs
UNPLUS System III Unix on a 68000 co-processor board.

Hope this of interest, if you would like details of the magazine then drop me
a note and I will get them from newsagent next time i visit.


Simon J Hopkins
Deepdale
Skewsby
York
YO6 4SG
[phone]

[e-mail]
Radio - G8PXB

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Date: 5 Nov 92 15:30:10 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!malgudi.oar.net!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu![e-mail]  (CP/M lives!)
Subject: Re: I just got a Z80 CP/M
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Adrian Silveanu) writes:
> Where there ever any CP/M computers with a moniter other than mono?

I think NEC built one. And then there's the MSX crowd in Japan (although
a Japanese foreign-exchange student just laughed when I mentioned MSX). I've
also seen a color Sony machine.

> Is the the CP/M Market dead?

If, by dead, you mean not covered by the mainstream press, yes. If, by dead,
you mean that nothing is available, no. If, by dead, you mean no one is doing
anything with it, no.
>
> P.P.S. Oh yes! One more thing. Is it possible to network my CP/M Computer
>     to my IBM? Through the serial port?

Speaking of which, does anyone have manuals for CP/NET? I'm interested
in the System Alteration Guide.
--

Roger Ivie                      "My God! That computer is full of Pentium!
[e-mail]                  It's a wonder that you haven't been turned
                                 into mutants!"

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Date: 27 Oct 92 17:08:08 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!scd.hp.com!hpscdm!icon.rose.hp.com![e-mail]  (Bill Hooper)
Subject: Re: Missing DataStar file
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Many thanks to all those who provided me with the BATCH.COM file. I now
have a working DataStar.

--
Bill Hooper
Hewlett Packard
Systems Technology Division, Systems Interface Lab
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Date: 7 Nov 92 17:44:23 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!yale.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uunet.ca!unixbox!dosgate!dosgate![barry.ross%canrem.com]@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (barry ross)
Subject: vixen
Message-ID: <1992Nov7.4443.3112@dosgate>

Have  you  got  one for sale? If it is just sitting  on  a  shelf
collecting  dust  you may wish to sell it,  before  it  de-values
anymore.
---
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INFO-CPM Digest             Tue, 10 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  129

Today's Topics:
                              Altos 580
                        I just got a Z80 CP/M
                          KAYPRO 10 FOR SALE
                             msdos to cpm
                  Re: I just got a Z80 CP/M (2 msgs)
                              Re: MIX C
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Date: 5 Nov 92 18:30:13 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!torn!nott!cunews!revcan!cerianthus!pinetree![e-mail]  (garth jones)
Subject: Altos 580
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am look for an Os for an Altos 580, Like Cp/M 2.2, Cp/M 3.0, Mp/M, or
any other that will run Altos 580.
        Garth

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Date: 4 Nov 92 22:46:05 GMT
From: uchinews!uhuru.uchicago.edu![e-mail]  (Adrian Silveanu)
Subject: I just got a Z80 CP/M
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello !
I just got a Z80 CP/M computer from a friend.
I has a to floppy drives. Comes with a system disk, and a copy of
WordStar. Well it was interest messing around with this computer, and
now I want to know more!

This is what I would like to find out:

Where there ever any CP/M computers with a moniter other than mono?

Could somebody tell me where I can find games and other programs for this
thing? FTP's?

Is the the CP/M Market dead?

Does anybody have a CP/M system manual on file?

Well that is about it for now, thanks!

Adrian Silveanu
[e-mail]

P.S. Could you please send all your answers to my E-Mail address, because
     I do not usually read this news group.

P.P.S. Oh yes! One more thing. Is it possible to network my CP/M Computer
    to my IBM? Through the serial port?

------------------------------

Date: 4 Nov 92 21:25:00 GMT
From: saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!ogicse!adaptive![e-mail]  (Casey Bahr)
Subject: KAYPRO 10 FOR SALE
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

The subject line about sums it up, a Kaypro with one 10MB HD
and a 5.25" DSDD.  In excellent working condition.  $200 plus
COD shipping in the USA (or best offer, of course!).  Selling
because I'm upgrading to a Mac (Please, no flames from you
dedicated CP/M'rs :) )

Also comes with a handsome carrying cover, and tons of software
and manuals.  All the standard Kaypro software: Perfect Writer,
Perfect Filer, WordStar, DataStar, ReportStar, etc., etc.  Plus
I have nearly two shoeboxes full of floppies with games, accounting
programs, communications software, you name it.  There's manuals
for just about all of it, too!  A large portion of this software is
already loaded on the hard disk.

Casey Bahr
[e-mail] | ogicse!adaptive!casey | uunet!adaptive!casey
Adaptive Solutions, Inc., 1400 NW Compton Dr. Suite 340, Beaverton, OR 97006
VOICE: [phone] /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ FAX: [phone]

P.S. I'm sorry, I can't honor requests for any software I have, I just
don't have the time to do that.  Buy the machine and get it all!

------------------------------

Date: 9 Nov 92 01:49:00 GMT
From: tamsun.tamu.edu!zeus.tamu.edu![e-mail]  (ECKHARDT, JASON LEE)
Subject: msdos to cpm
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Anyone out there know of program that runs under msdos that will write cpm
disks? (on trs-80 model 4).

thanks, jason.   [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 6 Nov 92 00:46:18 GMT
From: phoenix.Princeton.EDU![e-mail]  (Michael John Neufeld)
Subject: Re: I just got a Z80 CP/M
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (CP/M lives!) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Adrian Silveanu) writes:
>> Where there ever any CP/M computers with a moniter other than mono?
>
>I think NEC built one. And then there's the MSX crowd in Japan (although
>a Japanese foreign-exchange student just laughed when I mentioned MSX). I've
>also seen a color Sony machine.

I remember seeing ads for graphics boards running on the S-100 bus, and
thus usable by a Z-80 board on the bus running CP/M.  The only company
name I can think of right now is Cromeco.  Ahhh!  Back in the good old
days - when power supplies doubled as arc welders, and portable meant
that you could transport the computer without having to use a truck. (-:

-Mike

--
*****************
Michael Neufeld - Princeton University, Computer Science Dept.
Internet e-mail: [e-mail]
Die Leichen im Keller ruehren sich immer wieder...

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Date: 6 Nov 92 17:16:43 GMT
From: mentor.cc.purdue.edu!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!ea.ecn.purdue.edu![e-mail]  (Jeffrey J Wieland)
Subject: Re: I just got a Z80 CP/M
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael John Neufeld) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (CP/M lives!) writes:
>>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Adrian Silveanu) writes:
>>> Where there ever any CP/M computers with a moniter other than mono?
>>

There was a color graphics board for CP/M Kaypros -- I know -- I have
one that I bought from one of the engineers that designed it.  It was
made by MicroSphere.  It uses the Texas Instruments TI-9918A chip,
which gives 256x192 resolution, 16 colors and 32 sprites.  This is the
same chip that a lot of game machines and early micro computers used,
like the Texas Instruments TI99.

I had started writing a set of procedures for it with Turbo Modula 2,
but I have not found the time to finish it.

I also remember reading about a color graphics board that plugged into
a standard Centronics parallel port, so you drive it from virtually any
computer.  I think I saw this back in '86 or '87.  I don't remember
what company made it.
--
                Jeffrey J. Wieland
              Communication Systems Programmer
                Agricultural Computer Network

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Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 17:20:58 IST
From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MIX C

MIX-C was manufactured and sold by MIX Software, Richardson, Texas,
1-800-333-0330, for about 20$, with a 300 hundred pages documentation
included. Yes I am definitely talking about MIX-C for CP/M-80. No I am not
talking about Power-C for MESSDOSS which they continuously advertise (Ok, I
own, use and warmly praise both).
I will be glad to sell my CP/M-80 copy for 100$ or  more if and only if:
a) MIX C stills sells it and for 20$.
b) MIX C explicitly agrees with that deal.
In spite of the induced headache, I would certainly do that for any colleague
in search of a copy about as old as her/his computer .... ,-}

If and only if MIX Software or their legal representatives issue a clear and
unambiguous statement of complete loss of interest, I will gladly upload
my copy for public usage. The documentation will remain a problem.

Jacques Goldberg - [e-mail]  , two ZEROES in phr00jg

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Date: 8 Nov 92 06:47:00 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!tamsun.tamu.edu!zeus.tamu.edu![e-mail]  (ECKHARDT, JASON LEE)
Subject: small c problem
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I just got smallc21 and it seems that I can't use the "%f" conversion
specifier with this compiler?!  Is this not built in this version or am
I supposed to include something? If this is a deficiency, is there another
pd compiler available with a full 'c' implementation? (ansi would be great).

jason.

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 18:45:20 MST
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INFO-CPM Digest             Tue, 10 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  130

Today's Topics:
                          Kaypro 10 For Sale
                     Looking for kermit for a cpm
                             myz80 query
                   Osbourne Kermit/Software Wanted
                            PD C compiler?
                      Re: CP/M emulator for MAC?
                           Re: msdos to cpm
                         Re: small C problem.
                       Re: TURBO DOS *********
                         TURBO DOS *********

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Date: 6 Nov 92 16:29:32 GMT
From: wupost!emory!ogicse!adaptive![e-mail]  (Casey Bahr)
Subject: Kaypro 10 For Sale
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

    ************ PRICE REDUCED TO $150 ****************

The subject line about sums it up, a Kaypro with one 10MB HD
and a 5.25" DSDD.  In excellent working condition.  * $150 * plus
COD shipping in the USA.  Selling because I'm upgrading to a Mac
(Please, no flames from you dedicated CP/M'rs :) )

Also comes with a handsome carrying cover, and tons of software
and manuals.  All the standard Kaypro software: Perfect Writer,
Perfect Filer, WordStar, DataStar, ReportStar, etc., etc.  Plus
I have nearly two shoeboxes full of floppies with games, accounting
programs, communications software, you name it!
A large portion of this software is already loaded on the hard disk.

Casey Bahr
[e-mail] | ogicse!adaptive!casey | uunet!adaptive!casey
Adaptive Solutions, Inc., 1400 NW Compton Dr. Suite 340, Beaverton, OR 97006
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Date: 5 Nov 92 17:41:56 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!crcnis1.unl.edu!news.unomaha.edu!nevada.edu!jimi!equinox![e-mail]  (USENET News Administration)
Subject: Looking for kermit for a cpm
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Osborne, Xerox, and IBM CPM formats.  Failing kermit, are there any other
telecommunications programs available out there?
From: [e-mail] (Tamela R. Germano)
Path: pyramid!tamela

        thanks,
            Tamela Germano

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 23:11:15 GMT
From: Christopher Currie <[e-mail]>
Subject: myz80 query
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I've been trying out myz80 and it's very impressive. But there's
one problem: I can't get CP/M Kermit to work with it. I have to
use serial port 2 for DOS communications (mouse on port 1), so I
wondered whether the emulator can use a serial port, whether it
uses port 1 by default, and if so whether there's any means of
making it use port 2 instead. I couldn't find anything about this
in the docs that came with the trial version. Does anyone know the
answer?

Christopher Currie
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 9 Nov 92 02:00:47 GMT
From: <[e-mail]>[e-mail]
Subject: Osbourne Kermit/Software Wanted
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I recently acquired an old Obsourne 1, and would like to play around
with it - unfortunately, I'm having a bootstrapping problem, because I
don't have any telcommunications software for it.  If anyone could
send me a disk with kermit on it for the osbourne, I'd really
appreciate it - I'll definitely repay your for your time and costs.
Did anyone ever make a hard disk of any size for this machine?

I'd also appreciate the names or addresses of any user's group that
might have a library of software for this machine.

Finally, if anyone has any software around for this machine, and no
longer wants it, please let me know - I'd be interested in purchasing
it.

Thanks!

   Bill
   ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: 2 Nov 92 15:41:48 GMT
From: casey!gaboon!afc![e-mail]  (Usenet News Feed)
Subject: PD C compiler?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi, I'm looking for a reasonable C compiler for my old MAX-80.
Either a native compiler, or a cross compiler that I can
run under Unix.  Is there anything available?

Is there anyone else out there who has a MAX-80 from Lobo Systems?

Thanks!

/\ndy

------------------------------

Date: 5 Nov 92 00:21:12 GMT
From: concert!glv![e-mail]  (Richard Carpenter)
Subject: Re: CP/M emulator for MAC?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mikael
Kristoffersson) writes:
>
> Hello CP/M world and lovers!
>
> Does anyone know if there is a CP/M emulator for the Macintosh?
> Or maybe any source-code to port? I would like to hear about it
> if there is...
>
> All I have seen so far is for MS/DOS or UNIX.
>
> I do got a swedish CP/P comuter called JET-80, but my desk-top
> is not large enough for the MAC QUADRA and the JET-80 :-(
>
> I hope there is a solution to this...
>
> Mikael Kristoffersson,  E-mail [e-mail]
> Uppsala, SWEDEN

Get a bigger desk.

--
Chris Carpenter                  |         "We learn from history
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Date: 9 Nov 92 15:12:20 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!uwm.edu!biosci!ucselx!crash![e-mail]  (Don Maslin)
Subject: Re: msdos to cpm
Message-ID: <1992Nov09.071221.564@crash>

Either 22DISK by Sydex (shareware) or UniForm by MicroSolutions (commercial)
is what you seek.


              Sydex
              P.O. Box 5700
              Eugene, OR  97405
              Voice:  (503)  683-6033
              FAX:    (503)  683-1622
              Data:   (503)  683-1385

                Micro Solutions, Inc.
                132 West Lincoln Hwy.
                DeKalb IL 60115
                [phone]


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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 13:19:43 IST
From: "Jacques J. Goldberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: small C problem.

You just found out that real numbers are not handled by your compiler.
So what about buying MIX-C once for all for 20$?
I do not have any interest with MIX software, I just repeat from my experience,
pay these 20$ and begin to ENJOY programming in C with your beloved computer,
instead of limiting yourself with a compiler which IS a beautiful thing, for
which Mr. Hendrix deserves our eternal gratitude, a C compiler written in C,
with all the sources available, etc, etc, a superb laboratory/demonstration
object, written for that purpose, but definitely not to write APPLICATIONS.
If you read the articles in DDJ that came with the compiler, and/or Hendrix's
****excellent**** book on the compiler and library, you will see that the
exclusion of the REAL type was deliberate.
When you begin using MIX-C @ 20$ instead, you will also be amazed by the
ratio of elapsed time needed to compile and build the .COM file, not only
because of the intermediate assembly in Small C.
I don't wish to be flamed as if I was denying the extraordinary qualities
of Small C, including its null price (not quite, if you need the books and
the Microsoft M-80 assembler, although I know that NOW there are free almost
compatible assemblers, which PERHAPS correctly assemble ANY code generated
by Small-C).
I just warmly suggest to APPLICATIONS programmers to save a lot of headache
for 20$ only.
If MIX doesn't send me a new copy of the compiler which I anyway already have
after such a post ....

Jacques Goldberg - Technion, Haifa, Israel.

------------------------------

Date: 9 Nov 92 15:13:43 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!uwm.edu!biosci!ucselx!crash![e-mail]  (Don Maslin)
Subject: Re: TURBO DOS *********
Message-ID: <1992Nov09.071343.593@crash>

Yes, I know something of TurboDOS, what are your questions?

------------------------------

Date: 9 Nov 92 05:10:51 GMT
From: ub!acsu.buffalo.edu![e-mail]  (John J. Kerwin)
Subject: TURBO DOS *********
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Has anyone heard of turbo dos for the CPM if you have please e-mail me
i have a couple of question i would like to ask you


                                                 jk

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INFO-CPM Digest             Thu, 12 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  131

Today's Topics:
         Kaypro NOT for sale, :( and term emulation question.
                Need system disks for TRS-80 Model 4P
                           Re: CP/M to DOS
                   Re: Looking for kermit for a cpm
                           Re: msdos to cpm
                          Re: PD C Compiler?
                         Re: small c problem

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Date: 7 Nov 92 00:29:05 GMT
From: att!fang!gator!towers!npal![e-mail]
Subject: Kaypro NOT for sale, :( and term emulation question.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi!
My name is Chuck Stewart, and I'm the person who posted an
article trying to sell my Kaypro-4 on this newsgroup awhile back.
To all those who responded; Thank you!
I'm sorry I'm so late getting back to you all, but things got
strange around here again...:}
It seems that I will not be able to sell the Kaypro for enough to
get even a start on a used 8086, so I will have to do the best I
can with it.
To do so I will need to talk with the modern world, and that
requires VT100 or ANSI emulation instead of VT52. I asked about
this awhile back and someone mentioned   (QTerm)? (4xx)?
Does anyone know if this is it, and if it is; where can I get it?
I would be extremely grateful for any information I can receive!

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Date: 9 Nov 92 20:11:55 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!agate!rocket.ssl.berkeley.edu![e-mail]  (Eric J. Korpela)
Subject: Need system disks for TRS-80 Model 4P
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I've adopted another orphan.  This time it's a TRS-80 Model 4P.
Unfortunately, the system disks that I got with the machine are
trashed.  Therefore I'm looking for...

A TRSDOS 6 boot disk (with appropriate utilities) for running in
model 4 mode.

An earlier TRSDOS boot disk (for running in Model 3 mode).

and

A CP/M system disk (with the transient commands) for running CP/M.

I will, of course, pay media and shipping costs.

Now if I could just find someone willing to sell me a Model 16
for the same price, my "orphan museum" would be off to a good start.

Eric Korpela                                    |  The two most common things
[e-mail]              Internet  |  in the universe are
BKYAST::KORPELA    42215::KORPELA     DecNet    |  Hydrogen and stupidity.
korpela%bkyast@ucbjade                Bitnet    |       -Harlan Ellison

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Date: 10 Nov 92 09:32:59 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!math.fu-berlin.de![e-mail]  (Thomas Wolff)
Subject: Re: CP/M to DOS
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Don Maslin) writes:

> Both 22Disk by Sydex - shareware -  and UniForm by MicroSolutions - commercial -
> will permit reading a wide selection of CP/M disk formats.

UniForm does not seem to run anymore on recent MSDOS versions. It was of
questionable use anyway, at least not generally usable, since it was not
configurable to arbitrary formats. This is both unfortunate because its
concept of installing virtual drives instead of implementing copy commands
was certainly the nicer one.
Dan Fandrich recently announced a new program to install virtual drives
handling CP/M disks (if I understood him right), but - again unfortunately -
it doesn't seem to have been released yet.

Thomas
[e-mail]

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Date: 5 Nov 92 23:24:39 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!biosci!uwm.edu!news.bbn.com!noc.near.net!bigboote.WPI.EDU!bigwpi.WPI.EDU![e-mail]  (Mr. Neat-O [tm])
Subject: Re: Looking for kermit for a cpm
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tamela R. Germano) writes:
>Osborne, Xerox, and IBM CPM formats.  Failing kermit, are there any other
>telecommunications programs available out there?

I don't specifically know what versions are available, but try
watsun.cc.columbia.edu (128.59.39.1) for anonymous FTP.  It is the official
distribution site for kermit, and it has versions for just about every
computer that ever existed.

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Date: 10 Nov 92 10:51:08 GMT
From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!think.com!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!ira.uka.de!math.fu-berlin.de!wolff@  (Thomas Wolff)
Subject: Re: msdos to cpm
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Don Maslin) writes:

>Either 22DISK by Sydex (shareware) or UniForm by MicroSolutions (commercial)
>is what you seek.

UniForm does not seem to run anymore on recent MSDOS versions. It was of
questionable use anyway, at least not generally usable, since it was not
configurable to arbitrary formats. This is both unfortunate because its
concept of installing virtual drives instead of implementing copy commands
was certainly the nicer one.
Dan Fandrich recently announced a new program to install virtual drives
handling CP/M disks (if I understood him right), but - again unfortunately -
it doesn't seem to have been released yet.

Thomas
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 5 Nov 92 22:18:06 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!cs.utexas.edu!milano!cactus.org!wixer![e-mail]  (Lindsay Haisley)
Subject: Re: PD C Compiler?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Andy Hunt) writes:
>Hi, I'm looking for a reasonable C compiler for my old MAX-80.
>Either a native compiler, or a cross compiler that I can
>run under Unix.  Is there anything available?

BDS C, one of the best CP/M C compilers is still on the market, and is
quite reasonably priced, I believe.  It's currently marketed and
supported by Jay Sage of Sage Microsystems East.  You can reach him on
his BBS at 617-965-7259 (password "DDT") or by voice at 617-569-3552,
call about 10 Eastern time.  BDS C is a nearly complete K&R
implementation which makes fairly tight code and was the leader of the
pack at one point in speed benchmarks.


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Date: 10 Nov 92 00:46:18 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!milano!cactus.org!wixer![e-mail]  (Lindsay Haisley)
Subject: Re: small c problem
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (ECKHARDT, JASON LEE) writes:
>I just got smallc21 and it seems that I can't use the "%f" conversion
>specifier with this compiler?!  Is this not built in this version or am
>I supposed to include something? If this is a deficiency, is there another
>pd compiler available with a full 'c' implementation? (ansi would be great).

Floating point conversion is a complex business and not easily
implemented on 8080 or Z80 based machines.  Even commercial C compilers
such as BDS C implemented floating point arithmetic via special
functions which were included in an add-on floating point library.
Programs which I wrote using floating point arithmetic ususally handled
floating point numbers as strings which were I/O'd with %s rather than
%f.  There may be floating point libraries around for small C.  This is
certainly the place to advirtise for them.  Another source of
information, or so I'm told, is the CP/M echo of FidoNet which is
reportedly a good deal more active than this one.


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INFO-CPM Digest             Fri, 13 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  132

Today's Topics:
                             Model 4P....
                             myz80 query
                 Re: 22DISK problem with trs-80 4pex
                           Re: CP/M to DOS
          Re: Need system disks for TRS-80 Model 4P (2 msgs)
                         Re: small c problem

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Date: 12 Nov 92 06:55:40 GMT
From: mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!ogicse!emory!kd4nc!vdbsan!willard![e-mail]
Subject: Model 4P....
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


 the following places still carry TRS-80 I-IV software and hardware..

   and with quite a large inventory I might add...

  computer reset in garland, Texas        1-214-276-8072
                                   fax/bbs 1-214-272-7920
  p.o. box 461782
  Garland, TX  75046-1782

  Pacific Computer Exchange in Portland, Oregon  1-503-236-2949

  1031 s.e. mill
  suite b
  portland, oregon 97214


    as far as CP/M is concern, I strongly recommend Montezuma Micro
  CP/M 2.2 above all others....


  also there is a publication for TRS-80 computers I-IV mostly...

   Computer News-80
   p.o. box 680
   Casper, Wyoming  82602-0680
   1-307-265-6483     (number may be disconnected or something but
                       they are still in business and still have the
                       Computer News-80 publication which I subscribe
                       to, along with an inventory of TRS-80 hardware
                       and software.....)

                      internet:  [e-mail]
                      uucp:  [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 02:34:01 PST
From: pallio.UUCP![e-mail] (David Goodenough)
Subject: myz80 query
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Christopher Currie) asks:
> ..... I wondered whether the emulator can use a serial port,
> whether it uses port 1 by default, and if so whether there's any
> means of making it use port 2 instead. .....

I received a message from Simeon Cran on fidonet that addressed
this issue. Polled serial I/O can be done by direct access to the
UART's at 3f8-3fe and 2f8-2fe (i.e. COM1 & COM2). These port
addresses in the 8088's I/O space map to ports 00-06 and 08-0e (or
10-16) in the Z80's I/O space. I can't remember the port addresses
for COM2, but they're there.

You'll need to know the details of how to talk to an 8250, but
there's any amount of reference material available on that
subject.

The next version (1.03) also includes BIOS/FOSSIL serial support,
although I don't have the details of that here.
     dg
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Date: 11 Nov 92 14:15:41 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Re: 22DISK problem with trs-80 4pex
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (ECKHARDT, JASON LEE) writes:
> I have a trs-80 model 4p and and 486/clone. I have been getting software
> of the net for the 4p but its all on my pc. So i got 22disk to hopefully
> write all this good stuff to my model 4's cpm disks.
> Unforunately, 22disk doesn't (seem) to support my version of cpm.
> I think its cpm plus 3.0 : according to anadisk it has a 2:1 interleave
> and sector ids 0-17 and 256 byte sectors.
>
> Can anyone tell me how to get this format working with 22disk?
>
> thanks, jason.
>
 The 4P will also read an Osborne format (185K capacity).  There is also
a Zenith format (152K or 156K) that should work..

Willy

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Date: 10 Nov 92 16:18:26 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!biosci!uwm.edu!linac!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!milano!cactus.org!wixer![e-mail]  (Lindsay Haisley)
Subject: Re: CP/M to DOS
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Thomas Wolff) writes:
>UniForm does not seem to run anymore on recent MSDOS versions. It was of
>questionable use anyway, at least not generally usable, since it was not
>configurable to arbitrary formats. This is both unfortunate because its
>concept of installing virtual drives instead of implementing copy commands
>was certainly the nicer one.

My experience with MicroSolutions has been that they are helpful and
responsive to tech problems.  If you are having trouble with UniForm,
you should contact them as I'm sure they keep up to date with DOS
version updates and issue updates of UniForm in response.  Although I
use and recommend 22DISK myself, I've had at least one professional CP/M
software distrbutor (thankfully, this is not yet an oxymoron) tell me
that UniForm is the more reliable of the two.

MicroSolutions runs a BBS at 815-756-9100 in the US.


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Date: 10 Nov 92 16:21:18 GMT
From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx![e-mail]  (steve scrivano)
Subject: Re: Need system disks for TRS-80 Model 4P
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Eric J. Korpela) writes:
>I've adopted another orphan.  This time it's a TRS-80 Model 4P.
>Unfortunately, the system disks that I got with the machine are
>trashed.  Therefore I'm looking for...
>
>A TRSDOS 6 boot disk (with appropriate utilities) for running in
>model 4 mode.
>
>An earlier TRSDOS boot disk (for running in Model 3 mode).
>
>and
>
>A CP/M system disk (with the transient commands) for running CP/M.
>
>I will, of course, pay media and shipping costs.
>
>Now if I could just find someone willing to sell me a Model 16
>for the same price, my "orphan museum" would be off to a good start.

There is an obscure support department at Tandy called "Tandy Software
Assembly".  Most Radio Shack employees don't know about it because they
don't read the employee manual.  Anyway, if you don't have any luck with
your post, and you can round up the original catalog numbers of the items
you need, get a Tandy employee to call this department and order it for
you.  Last I heard, you can get copies of disks, replacements, etc., for
$7.00 per disk.

Steve Scrivano
[e-mail]

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Date: 12 Nov 92 22:50:15 GMT
From: coyote![e-mail]  (Leonard Lorden)
Subject: Re: Need system disks for TRS-80 Model 4P
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

> I've adopted another orphan.  This time it's a TRS-80 Model 4P.
> Unfortunately, the system disks that I got with the machine are
> trashed.  Therefore I'm looking for...
> A TRSDOS 6 boot disk (with appropriate utilities) for running in
> model 4 mode.
> An earlier TRSDOS boot disk (for running in Model 3 mode).

Congrat's on the TRS-80 4P.  May I suggest a subscription to Computer
News 80 magazine.  This magazine contains all the DOS's you're looking
for, and MUCH more.  It's only $24 a year and is distributed monthly.
When you order a Model 3 boot disk, be sure that it includes the file
MODELA/III.  This file is a software ROM, as the 4P has no built in ROM,
as the rest of the Model 4 family has.
    If you're a member on GEnie, stop by the Tandy RT as we boast several
files for the Models 1/3/4 there!  CN80 magazine also provides a
download-through-the-mail service for nominal charges.
   Computer News 80
   PO Box 680
   Casper, Wyoming 82602-0680
   [phone]

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Date: 11 Nov 92 06:18:06 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!torn!nott!cunews!revcan!cerianthus!pinetree![e-mail]  (garth jones)
Subject: Re: small c problem
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

> certainly the place to advirtise for them.  Another source of
> information, or so I'm told, is the CP/M echo of FidoNet which is
> reportedly a good deal more active than this one.

The Fido Cpm echo has about 15- 20 messages a day
 Do anyone know where a list of Cp/m os disk are?



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INFO-CPM Digest             Sat, 14 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  133

Today's Topics:
                    22DISK problem with trs-80 4p
       Can a Kaypro-4 PRINT Gif's on a dot matrix (RX-80)?? :}
                        cp/m - dos conversion
                         Help, sirius files?
                           Re: CP/M to DOS
              Re: Looking for Hard Drive for Epson QX-10
                     Re: Undocumented Z80 opcodes

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Date: 11 Nov 92 01:47:00 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!spool.mu.edu!darwin.sura.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tamsun.tamu.edu!zeus.tamu.edu![e-mail]  (ECKHARDT, JASON LEE)
Subject: 22DISK problem with trs-80 4p
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have a trs-80 model 4p and and 486/clone. I have been getting software
of the net for the 4p but its all on my pc. So i got 22disk to hopefully
write all this good stuff to my model 4's cpm disks.
Unforunately, 22disk doesn't (seem) to support my version of cpm.
I think its cpm plus 3.0 : according to anadisk it has a 2:1 interleave
and sector ids 0-17 and 256 byte sectors.

Can anyone tell me how to get this format working with 22disk?

thanks, jason.

------------------------------

Date: 13 Nov 92 06:27:20 GMT
From: att!fang!gator!towers!npal![e-mail]
Subject: Can a Kaypro-4 PRINT Gif's on a dot matrix (RX-80)?? :}
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi There!

Here's an interesting question:
My Kaypro-4 , of course , cannot handle graphics.
I cannot afford a new computer for a long time. I must make do with the Kaypro.
So. I am an anime fan and I would like to PRINT OUT GIF's. (Stop laughiing!
You! In the corner! Stop laughing!  ;)
Has anyone ever written a program for a Kaypro-4 to
PRINT Gif's on a dot matrix printer?
I have an Epson RX-80.
Please stop giggling; you're making the Kaaypro nervous...:)

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Date: 11 Nov 92 23:33:53 GMT
From: sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu![e-mail]  (Earl W Phillips)
Subject: cp/m - dos conversion
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

For quite a while, I have struggled with the problem of converting
all my old CP/M stuff to my dos computer, as many of you have (evident
by the number of messages on the subject!). I have finally succeeded.
While there are many programs out there that simulate the cp/m-os
on dos, they either lacked the ability to directly read/write a
cp/m formatted disk, or you were forced to use the old modem
technique to get the files into your dos. No More! I have discovered
a company called "Intersecting Concepts", @ 30851 Agoura Rd,
Suite 200, Agoura Hills, Ca 91301 ph:818-879-0086. They have
produced a product called "Media Master" which runs flawlessly
on my IBM-PC AT 286 w/dos v.5 that logs in my a:floppy drive
as a Morrow MD-2 (SSDD) (which was one of my old cp/m machines).
It will also log in many other 5-1/4" cp/m disk formats, up to
I think close to 70 of 'em! You can then directly read/write the
cp/m floppy disk, copying all of the files if you wish onto your
dos machine's harddrive. Then, Media Master has a cp/m-os emulator,
called "ZP/EM" which runs the cp/m software! Of course, the program
"myz80" does this well too, but Media Master is one program that
does everything in one package, negating the need to run 2 or
more pieces of software just to run cp/m on dos. BTW, all of the
standard disclaimers apply re:my working for them or getting
financial consideration from the (I don't!). I just finally found
something that works after more than 2 years of searching. Man,
it's just like sitting at the console of my old Morrow! Absolutely
seamless, I tell ya! Hope this helps all of you looking for a
solution. BTW, the price? Just about $70 bucks, ups'ed to your
door!

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Date: 13 Nov 92 11:23:56 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!sersun1!plasparc3![e-mail]  (Alastair Neil)
Subject: Help, sirius files?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Does anyone remember  the Sirius, did it run cpm? I have a collegue who has disks with
files written by an old sirius, and he would like to have access to them - but he doesn't
know what operating system the sirius ran. - Any help/suggestions very welcome.

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Date: 10 Nov 92 09:32:59 GMT
From: van-bc!cs.ubc.ca!utcsri!rpi!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!math.fu-berlin.de![e-mail]  (Thomas Wolff)
Subject: Re: CP/M to DOS
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Don Maslin) writes:

> Both 22Disk by Sydex - shareware -  and UniForm by MicroSolutions - commercial -
> will permit reading a wide selection of CP/M disk formats.

UniForm does not seem to run anymore on recent MSDOS versions. It was of
questionable use anyway, at least not generally usable, since it was not
configurable to arbitrary formats. This is both unfortunate because its
concept of installing virtual drives instead of implementing copy commands
was certainly the nicer one.
Dan Fandrich recently announced a new program to install virtual drives
handling CP/M disks (if I understood him right), but - again unfortunately -
it doesn't seem to have been released yet.

Thomas
[e-mail]

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Date: 13 Nov 92 19:31:38 GMT
From: lhdsy1!nntpserver.chevron.com!usmi02.midland.chevron.com![e-mail]  (J. S. Comeaux)
Subject: Re: Looking for Hard Drive for Epson QX-10
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I hope someone can help Chris find a Hard drive.  They do exist, but
I don't know where.  2 MB RAM disks also exist with Batter backup,
which is a good way to go.  I still use the two-disk drive system.
Tomorrow I'll bring the address of the EPSON usre's group in
Pennsylvania.

John (no signature yet)

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Date: 13 Nov 92 12:12:32 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!mizar.cc.umanitoba.ca![e-mail]  (Dan Fandrich)
Subject: Re: Undocumented Z80 opcodes
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>Does anyone have a List
>of the UNdocumented op-codes
>For the Zilog Z80 Mirco processor
>
>If so would you send me a copy
>
>
>Garret Flynn,
>Information Technology,
>University of Limerick,
>Ireland,

Not bad, but the second line is harsh and the rhyme scheme is weak.
How about:

      Does anyone have a tabulation,
      Of all of the undoc'mented instructions,
         For the Zilog Z80
         Micro-heavyweighty;
      If so, would you send me a reproduction?

But who am I to critique someone from the University of Limerick?

>>> Dan
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INFO-CPM Digest             Mon, 16 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  134

Today's Topics:
                            apple lisa....
                          infostar for sale
                         pascal mt/+ for sale
                      Re: I just got a Z80 CP/M
              Re: Looking for Hard Drive for Epson QX-10
              Re: Need system disks for TRS-80 Model 4P
                   Re: Turbo Pascal for a Kaypro II
                     Re: Undocumented Z80 opcodes
                       Undocumented Z80 opcodes

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Date: 14 Nov 92 01:11:46 GMT
From: channel1![richard.wyble%channel1.com]@uunet.uu.net  (richard wyble)
Subject: apple lisa....
Message-ID: <1992Nov13.1037.1218@channel1>

 >-    I'm looking for any information which may be available for the
 >-or rather about the Apple Lisa, not to mention what kind of machine
 >-it is.....

The Apple Lisa was, simplistically, a product ahead of its time. One might
say that it was the first Macintosh. In fact, a number of them were sold in
the late 1980's as a cheap machine which would run Mac software.

I suggest that you seek a Macintosh forum in which to ask further questions.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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                      Written Fri, 11-13-92, at 5:37pm
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 ~ DeLuxe} 1.25 #12515 ~
--
Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA

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Date: 12 Nov 92 04:48:58 GMT
From: channel1![richard.wyble%channel1.com]@uunet.uu.net  (richard wyble)
Subject: infostar for sale
Message-ID: <1992Nov11.1037.1211@channel1>

InfoStar is MicroPro's database management system. The modules are all here,
FormGen, DataStar, ReportStar, and SuperSort. Original packaging,
documentation, and discs. Disc format is Xerox 820, 5.25"

Make an offer.
---
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--
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Date: 12 Nov 92 04:48:58 GMT
From: channel1![richard.wyble%channel1.com]@uunet.uu.net  (richard wyble)
Subject: pascal mt/+ for sale
Message-ID: <1992Nov11.1037.1212@channel1>

Pascal MT/+ for sale, original packaging, documentation, and discs. Disc
format is 8" cpm generic, and I include copies in 5.25" Kaypro DSDD. Make an
offer.
---
 ~ EZ 1.39 ~ [e-mail] (Richard J. Wyble)
--
Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA

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Date: 16 Nov 92 11:22:00 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!think.com!paperboy.osf.org![e-mail]  (David George)
Subject: Re: I just got a Z80 CP/M
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Simon J Hopkins) writes:
|>
|> Read this one with interest, in the UK the Amstrad PCW range (CP/M based)
|> still selling well.

and the 6128 machines are color too.  Amstrad have just launched a new Z80 based
notebook although I don't think it runs CP/M.   It was reviewed recently in
Byte under the comment "last Z80 machine ?",  we'll see.  The Tatung Einstein
was also a color CP/M machine, although the color monitor only supported
40 columns.

David.

------------------------------

Date: 14 Nov 92 08:07:00 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu![e-mail]  (Alexandre Khalil)
Subject: Re: Looking for Hard Drive for Epson QX-10
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (J. S. Comeaux) writes...
>I hope someone can help Chris find a Hard drive.  They do exist, but
>I don't know where.  2 MB RAM disks also exist with Batter backup,
>which is a good way to go.  I still use the two-disk drive system.
>Tomorrow I'll bring the address of the EPSON usre's group in
>Pennsylvania.

  Hello Guys

  I have worked for a year and a half on QX-10 and 16 before leaving the
school where I was teaching.  At that time, I gave away 3 QX-10, 2 QX-16
2 20 Mb hard disks and all the original technical documentation.  Had to do
that as I was leaving the country and could not afford to take them along.
  In the US, I enquired about QXs for the good times sakes, and came up
with those two addresses:

   Star Technology Corporation
   900 Road 170
   Carbondale, CO 81623     [phone]

     I found their prices much too high ( $679 for a 20 Mb, 65 ms
   hard disk )

   SnyderScope International
   1594 Hilltop Drive
   El Cajon, CA 92020-8227  [phone]

     SnyderScope was in the process of closing its QX interests in 1991, so
   I don't know if they might be of help.  They might be kind and give you
   a few tips on how to hack a QX to MFM or RLL interface so that you can
   use a regular DOS drive.

  Happy hacking

>John (no signature yet)

alex khalil [e-mail]
U. of Houston-Downtown

------------------------------

Date: 12 Nov 92 20:41:54 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!acsu.buffalo.edu![e-mail]  (Scott P. Toenniessen)
Subject: Re: Need system disks for TRS-80 Model 4P
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Eric J. Korpela) writes:
>
>A TRSDOS 6 boot disk (with appropriate utilities) for running in
>model 4 mode.
>
Call MISOSYS (1-800-misosys) and buy LS-DOS 6.3.1.  Model 4 TRSDOS 6
is LS-DOS with the Radio Shack name (as PC-DOS is to MS-DOS).  This
is the latest version (released last year).  I believe it is $39.

>An earlier TRSDOS boot disk (for running in Model 3 mode).
>
If you want TRSDOS 1.3, you will have to go to Radio Shack.  I would
suggest getting LDOS 5.3.1 from MISOSYS.  It works almost exactly like
LS-DOS, but in Model 3 mode.  It blows TRSDOS 1.3 out of the water.
(some Model 3 software will only run under TRSDOS 1.3, though).
>
>A CP/M system disk (with the transient commands) for running CP/M.
>
I believe Computer News 80 has Montezuma Micro CPM 2.2.  This is your
best bet.  Radio Shack CPM was based on CPM version 3.0.  I've heard
a lot of complaints about the Radio Shack port of it (never used it myself).

                   Scott

------------------------------

Date: 29 Oct 92 04:14:23 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!scd.hp.com!hpscdm!hplextra!hpcss01!hpergfg2!hprdash!hprnd![e-mail]  (Greg Holdren)
Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal for a Kaypro II
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

  Sage Microsystems East:
  1435 Centre St.
  Newton Centre, MA 02159-2469
  [phone] Voice 9-11AM
  [phone] BSS

------------------------------

Date: 16 Nov 92 11:35:37 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!think.com!paperboy.osf.org![e-mail]  (David George)
Subject: Re: Undocumented Z80 opcodes
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Dan Fandrich) writes:
|> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
|> >
|> >Does anyone have a List
|> >of the UNdocumented op-codes
|> >For the Zilog Z80 Mirco processor
|> >
|> >If so would you send me a copy
|> >
|> >
|> >Garret Flynn,
|> >Information Technology,
|> >University of Limerick,
|> >Ireland,
|>
|> Not bad, but the second line is harsh and the rhyme scheme is weak.
|> How about:
|>
|>       Does anyone have a tabulation,
|>       Of all of the undoc'mented instructions,
|>          For the Zilog Z80
|>          Micro-heavyweighty;
|>       If so, would you send me a reproduction?
|>
|> But who am I to critique someone from the University of Limerick?
|>
|> >>> Dan

hmmm or even:

    There was a processor which sported,
    Some op-codes quite unsupported.
    What people discovered,
    they passed on to others.
    Who wrote software never to be ported.

David.

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Date: 10 Nov 92 14:17:58 GMT
From: mcsun!ieunet!ul.ie![e-mail]
Subject: Undocumented Z80 opcodes
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Does anyone have a List
of the UNdocumented op-codes
For the Zilog Z80 Mirco processor

If so would you send me a copy


Garret Flynn,
Information Technology,
University of Limerick,
Ireland,

E-mail [e-mail]

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INFO-CPM Digest             Tue, 17 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  135

Today's Topics:
                                BDS C
                   Children's games programs wanted
                   EPSON QX-ers Important Addresses
                       Genealogy program wanted
                              Re: MIX C
                           Re: myz80 query
                         Re: small c problem
                   Re: Turbo Pascal for a Kaypro II
                     Re: Undocumented Z80 opcodes
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:40:40 -0500
From: Jay Sage <[e-mail]>
Subject: BDS C
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Lindsay Haisley was kind in mentioning me as a source for BDS C, but there
were two inaccuracies that should be corrected.  First, Sage Microsystems
East is my wife's company.  They carry all the products I like, and I am
happy to provide technical support.  In the case of BDS C, I worked with
Leor Zolman to develop the Z-System version of BDS C, with is now included
along with the older CP/M version in the standard BDS C product package.

A more serious error in Lindsay's message was the mirror-imaging of part of
Sage Microsystem's phone number.  I won't repeat the wrong number; the
correct number is 617-965-3552.  The number for the BBS was correct
(965-7259).  The recommendation to call voice late in the evening was also
correct.  The best time to find me at home is between 11 pm and midnight
Eastern time (even that will fail on occasion).  I'm happy to talk about
almost any subject related to CP/M-compatible computing.

-- Jay


------------------------------

Date: 17 Nov 92 05:31:46 GMT
From: access.usask.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!janus.arc.ab.ca![e-mail]
Subject: Children's games programs wanted
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am looking for young children's games to run on a KayPro 2 under CP/M.
I would especially like to hear about some that use graphics (on a KayPro?),
but non-graphical games might be useful as well.

The target audience is aged 3 to 7.

Thanks.

Rob Brown
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 16 Nov 92 14:38:28 GMT
From: lhdsy1!nntpserver.chevron.com!usmi02.midland.chevron.com![e-mail]  (J. S. Comeaux)
Subject: EPSON QX-ers Important Addresses
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Important addresses for all Epson QX-10 Users.

As of Dec 1990, GuildWare Inc. was still in
operation and still providing NEW products for
the Epson QX-10 for CP/M and MS DOS systems.
I counted 31 products for Epson computers.
I have used many of them and they do work well.
Now if Dan Oja could just get them to work with
mouse support :|.

GuildWare Inc
PH [phone]
P O Box 819
Marquette  MI  49855

As of June 1989, The Epson Lifeboat
newsletter of the National Epson Users Group,
was still publishing.  It provides essential
information and addresses for QX-10, QX-16,
and Equity owners.  Back issues may be available.

Epson Lifeboat
P O Box 1076
Lemont  PA  16851

Richard Shoemaker
[phone]
between 4PM and 7PM daily except Saturdays.
Richard helps MEMBERS, so don't keep him tied up
without sending your check for dues.
Annual dues were $25/year.  Public domain
disks available.   Ask for sample issue.

Roger Amidon has the final version of the
TPM operating system (V 3.88).
He also has a new ROM chip that can assist
booting into MS DOS without disk swapping.

DX Computing Co
Box 189
Hopewell  NJ  08525

------------------------------

Date: 17 Nov 92 05:28:14 GMT
From: access.usask.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!janus.arc.ab.ca![e-mail]
Subject: Genealogy program wanted
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am looking for a genealogy program to run under CP/M on a KayPro 2.

All suggestions welcome.

Thanks.

Rob Brown
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:34:55 -0500
From: Jay Sage <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MIX C
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Jacques Goldberg wrote:

>> MIX-C was manufactured and sold by MIX Software, Richardson, Texas,...
>> for about 20$, with a 300 hundred pages documentation included.

   As far as I know, MIX C is still available from Ed Grey, who reads (and
occasionally posts to) this newsgroup.  I'm afraid I do not have his email
address or the phone number of his BBS handy.  Perhaps someone else will
post it.

-- Jay


------------------------------

Date: 14 Nov 92 19:17:42 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!scd.hp.com!hpscdm!hplextra!hpcc05!hpyhde4!hpycla!hpergfg2!hprdash!hprnd![e-mail]  (Greg Holdren)
Subject: Re: myz80 query
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

 COM1 => 02F8h-02FFh PC i/o => 00h-08h Z80 i/o respectivly
 COM2 => 03F8h-03FFh PC i/o => 09h-0Fh Z80 i/o respectivly

 So you have to mod. the kermit program to use a 8250 like chip at
 the Z80s io address shown.

 Greg Holdren
 [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 12 Nov 92 18:10:57 GMT
From: agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!mucs!p4.cs.man.ac.uk![e-mail]  (Paul Martin)
Subject: Re: small c problem
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (garth jones) writes:

>The Fido Cpm echo has about 15- 20 messages a day

It also seems to share the same inhabitants.

--
Paul Martin
Internet: [e-mail]
Fidonet:  2:250/107.3

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:29:56 -0500
From: Jay Sage <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal for a Kaypro II
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

   It was nice of someone in a recent posting to recommend my wife's
company, Sage Microsystems East, as a source for Turbo Pascal for CP/M.
Unfortunately, that product is no longer available.  After Borland declined
to renew Alpha Software's license, Bill Roch (Elliam Associates) and I tried
to convince them to release the software in some form (such as licenses to
other distributors), but they refused.  This is a real shame, because Turbo
Pascal is still an excellent product.  If Borland finds it too much trouble
to count the small sums of money a license could bring in (for no work on
their part at all), the least they could do is release the product to the
public domain.

-- Jay Sage


------------------------------

Date: 16 Nov 92 13:48:42 GMT
From: think.com!paperboy.osf.org![e-mail]  (Eamonn McManus)
Subject: Re: Undocumented Z80 opcodes
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

|> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Dan Fandrich) writes:
|> |> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
|> |> >
|> |> >Does anyone have a List
|> |> >of the UNdocumented op-codes
|> |> >For the Zilog Z80 Mirco processor
|> |> >
|> |> >If so would you send me a copy
|> |> >
|> |> >
|> |> >Garret Flynn,
|> |> >Information Technology,
|> |> >University of Limerick,
|> |> >Ireland,
|> ... various limericks deleted


Eamonn McManus <[e-mail]> suggests:

Neither of the proposed alternatives scans, and the rhyming is not
good.

  An out-of-date student called Flynn
  Looks for op-codes that never were in
    The documentation;
    Experimentation
  Is needed, but patience wears thin.

Still not very satisfactory (in particular the sentences span the
lines in a rather awkward way), but it does scan.

Eamonn

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Date: 17 Nov 92 07:54:32 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!uniwa!cujo!cc.curtin.edu.au![e-mail]  (Ron Murray)
Subject: Re: ZMODEM for CP/M ???
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Kentt{l{ Marko) writes:

> I'd like to have ZMODEM documentation or source (ZMP doesn't come with source)
> so if any of you have it, just E-mail it to [e-mail], please.

   I've been promising for some time to release the zmp/rzmp sources, but
it's one of those things I just don't seem to have got around to yet! I'm
currently looking into a Windows version for PCs, so I just rooted out the
sources again. I'll try and post them in the next week or so. Be warned though
that it may not be easy to recompile zmp from the sources: I had to resort to
a few fiddles to get it to compile and run in what is, after all, a rather
restrictive environment for that sort of thing (I had only about 54k of TPA).
I was able to get it to go only by using a particular compiler, which isn't
all that common.

   There were several reasons why I didn't release the sources with zmp in
the first place: mostly, I guess, I didn't want 156 different versions of
zmp floating around (we all learned an awful lot from SD!). In these days
of PCs, Macs and "shareware", I'm more worried about someone else making
money from my code (and, of course, that of Hal Maney, who wrote Hmodem,
from which [r]zmp was derived). Perhaps releasing it all under the GPL will
help: has anyone got any suggestions on this? (Please note that any Windows
port of zmp will be released under much the same conditions as cp/m zmp was:
free to non-commercial users).

   The Zmodem specs, which you should try and get if you intend to write a
program using Zmodem, are probably in Simtel-20's zmodem directory. Try
"yzmodem.arc" and possibly "zmodem810.zip" as well.

> JMODEM would be even better...

   You may have problems with jmodem in a cp/m environment. If memory serves
me right (it's been a long time, and I don't have the docs with me), it's
basically xmodem with an impossibly large (for cp/m) packet size: up to about
14k, I believe. (The Zmodem-like protocol in Fidonet mail systems has a similar
problem, in case you wonder why I never added that capability to Foodo). It
wasn't possible to add jmodem to zmp for this reason: simple lack of memory.
(You may notice that zmp receives files in chunks of up to 16k: if these
chunks are less than 16k, then that's all the memory you have free in your
system with zmp running). It may be possible to get jmodem running by
re-coding the whole lot in assembler, or cutting down on other things, but
the real question is: why bother? Zmodem is probably more efficient under
all but the best conditions.

 .....Ron

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                                 ***
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INFO-CPM Digest             Fri, 20 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  136

Today's Topics:
                              Kaypro 10
                          Prolog for CP/M ?
     Re: Can a Kaypro-4 PRINT Gif's on a dot matrix (RX-80)?? :}
                            Re: Kaypro 10
                              Re: MIX C
              Re: Need system disks for TRS-80 Model 4P
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Date: 15 Nov 92 21:17:37 GMT
From: ryptyde![e-mail]  (Tom Williams)
Subject: Kaypro 10
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Here's a bit of a teaser for anyone who wants to play the game.

I have a Kaypro 10 machine with the 10Mb drive installed.  Because of
(apparently) magnetics in the area, the format for the second partition
is nearly lost (as is all data).

Question:  Does anyone know of a PD or shareware program to help me
rebuild the format/partition?  It's little use to have a 400k partition
on a 10 meg drive, and I can't find a replacement drive for less than a
can of soda.

Thanks.

Tom

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Date: 15 Nov 92 09:29:04 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!bu.edu!wang![e-mail]  (Joel Jacobsen)
Subject: Prolog for CP/M ?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I need a PROLOG system for CP/M, PD or very low price.
I've tried Micro-PROLOG, but I need more.

            Joel

------------------------------

Date: 15 Nov 92 21:07:32 GMT
From: ryptyde![e-mail]  (Tom Williams)
Subject: Re: Can a Kaypro-4 PRINT Gif's on a dot matrix (RX-80)?? :}
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] writes:

> Has anyone ever written a program for a Kaypro-4 to
> PRINT Gif's on a dot matrix printer?
> I have an Epson RX-80.

Well, Charles, now that I've dried all the tears from my eyes and can see
what I'm doing again ...

I own a Kaypro 10 (which I'll be posting about shortly), and I seem to
remember that there is a program to print graphics with CP/M.  While I
can't remember ever using it, I do browse the local graveyards here once
in a while.

You might try writing your own program in, say, S-Basic (came with my
machine), or in C using some of the DOS C routines for GIFs (again
noticed while browsing local boards).  The GIF structure is fairly simple
once you understand how the compression algorhythm works.  You could,
then, replace the palette with patterns, one for each major color, and
send the whole lot to the printer.

A program written for the Commodore 64 and the Gemini 10x is still around
somewhere (I have a copy of the compiled program, not the source).  It's
called ShadeyDump, and converts any Commodore graphic (bitmapped with
separate palette of three selectable colors) to a pseudo-dithered
monochrome file ready for printing.  The program was featured in one of
the Commodore magazines and should be easily translated to S-Basic or C.

(I hear you snickering over there when I say Commodore, so STOP IT!!)

I hope this helps.  If I see something on a local board I'll mail it to
you.

Tom

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Date: 16 Nov 92 14:56:28 GMT
From: mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!ogicse!uwm.edu!biosci!ucselx!crash![e-mail]  (Don Maslin)
Subject: Re: Kaypro 10
Message-ID: <1992Nov16.065628.8826@crash>

Why not back up your data and reformat the drive?

------------------------------

Date: 18 Nov 92 14:51:46 GMT
From: crash![e-mail]  (Don Maslin)
Subject: Re: MIX C
Message-ID: <1992Nov18.065147.1523@crash>

Have not been in direct contact with Ed for a while, but this was formerly
his .signature:
--
 Ed Grey  \*\  Sysop of The Grey Matter BBS & RCP/M 213-971-6260
 P.O. Box #2186  \*\  Bitnet: ac959%cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm
 Inglewood, CA 90305  \*\  Internet: [e-mail]
 USA     \**\     [phone]     \**\     Fidonet: 1:102/752


                         - don

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Date: 17 Nov 92 23:26:29 GMT
From: coyote![e-mail]  (Leonard Lorden)
Subject: Re: Need system disks for TRS-80 Model 4P
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

> I believe Computer News 80 has Montezuma Micro CPM 2.2.  This is your
> best bet.  Radio Shack CPM was based on CPM version 3.0.  I've heard
> a lot of complaints about the Radio Shack port of it (never used it myself).
>
>                    Scott

The biggest complaint I've heard about RS CP/M is that it will not
utilize double sided drives...

          Leonard

** - Term limits for Sysop's! **

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Date: 17 Nov 92 19:04:08 GMT
From: eru.mt.luth.se!lunic!sunic!dkuug!daimi![e-mail]  (Lasse Hiller|e Petersen)
Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal for a Kaypro II
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Jay Sage) writes:
>   It was nice of someone in a recent posting to recommend my wife's
>company, Sage Microsystems East, as a source for Turbo Pascal for CP/M.
>Unfortunately, that product is no longer available.  After Borland declined
>to renew Alpha Software's license, Bill Roch (Elliam Associates) and I tried
>to convince them to release the software in some form (such as licenses to
>other distributors), but they refused.  This is a real shame, because Turbo
>Pascal is still an excellent product.  If Borland finds it too much trouble
>to count the small sums of money a license could bring in (for no work on
>their part at all), the least they could do is release the product to the
>public domain.

This sounds as the same problem the Macintosh community has with Borland's
Reflex database.

But perhaps some of you know that Borland _bought_ Turbo Pascal from a Danish
company called PolyData. While Borland was selling the compiler under the
name "Turbo Pascal" in the USA and elsewhere, it what still being sold in
Denmark as COMPAS Pascal. Borland furnished it with a better (WordStar-like)
Editor, which eventually appeared in COMPAS Pascal version 3.
(I still prefer the extremely simple editor in COMPAS Pascal v.2.20 ;-)
COMPAS Pascal was also available for CP/M-86 and Concurrent-CP/M.
(It was popular in the late 80's for use with the Regnecentralen Piccoline
computers -- with the 80186 CPU -- used at many schools in Denmark.)

Maybe it is worth investigating whether PolyData still holds the rights on
COMPAS Pascal?


--
Lasse Hiller|e Petersen - [e-mail] !  /*] Once upon a time at 2:30 in
Department of Information & Media Science  ! /*<  the afternoon, there lived
Aarhus University                          !/* *\ a wise&benevolent&wonderful
Denmark                                    ! L L  wizard who wore a big hat...

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 07:54:36 CST
From: Steve Westlund <[e-mail]>
Subject: Uniform Upgrade

When I recently upgraded to MS-DOS 5.0, I discovered out that my versions
of Uniform and Unidos no longer worked. Uniform is a program that allows
a PC to read CP/M disks. Unidos enables the PC to run CP/M software. Both
are produced by MicroSolutions, Inc.

I called the company and was informed that new releases of Uniform and
Unidos do run under MS-DOS 5.0. All that I had to do was send in a very
reasonable $15 upgrade fee, plus $2 shipping and handling, along with the
original software disk.

Within 10 days I received the upgrade disk in the mail. After reinstalling
the software on my system, I am happy to report that it works great!  The
new version of Uniform contains even more CP/M formats than the old one.
Here's the address and telephone number for Microsolutions, Inc.

       MicroSolutions, Inc.
       132 West Lincoln Hwy.
       De Kalb, IL 60115
       [phone]

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INFO-CPM Digest             Sun, 22 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  137

Today's Topics:
        Embedded Systems Software Engineer Position Available
                                MIX C
                            PD C compiler?
                 Re: EPSON QX-ers Important Addresses
                       Re: Help, sirius files?
                      RE: I just got a Z80 CP/M
                   Re: Turbo Pascal for a Kaypro II
                             Turbo Pascal
                               ZCPR FAQ

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Date: 18 Nov 92 22:56:32 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!news.Brown.EDU!noc.near.net!news.cs.brandeis.edu!chaos.cs.brandeis.edu![e-mail]  (Mary F Wentworth)
Subject: Embedded Systems Software Engineer Position Available
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

**** THIS IS A RE-POSTING ****

Houghton Mifflin Co.'s Language Software Group is looking to hire an
embedded systems software engineer to work in its Cambridge, MA office.

Specific Responsibilities:

Will be responsible for: porting existing HMCo language software products
(spell checker, grammar checker, electronic reference works, etc.) from 'C'
to 'Z80' and other microprocessors; preparing and presenting detailed
language software design specifications for embedded systems environments;
providing technical support for embedded systems customers; and researching
best development, test, and optimization environments for Z80 and other
embedded systems.


Qualifications:

Position requires: at least two years of 'C' and 'Z80' programming experience
in commercially-oriented, team-oriented software development environment(s);
familiarity with bank switching; experience with in-circuit emulators;
excellent 'C' and assembly language programming, interpersonal, and
communication skills; and a willingness to occasionally travel overseas.
Technical or customer support experience is desirable. B.A./B.S. degree, or
equivalent, is necessary.

This is a temporary (one year) full-time position, though it could be a
permanent position for the right candidate.

If interested, please send or fax a resume with cover letter stating salary
requirement to:

Mary Wentworth
Software Division
Houghton Mifflin Co.
One Memorial Drive
Cambridge, MA 02142

phone: [phone]
fax:   [phone]

please do not respond via E-mail.
--
                               Mary F. Wentworth

               [e-mail]

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Date: 7 Nov 92 12:38:52 GMT
From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!psinntp!psinntp!blkbox![e-mail]  (Blake Scruggs)
Subject: MIX C
Message-ID: <1992Nov07.123852.25213@blkbox>

If * Anyone * has "MIX C" and would like to sell it, I would be interested
From what I understand, It's a CP/M based cross compiler for "C".
[e-mail]

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Date: 2 Nov 92 15:41:48 GMT
From: casey!gaboon!afc![e-mail]  (Usenet News Feed)
Subject: PD C compiler?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi, I'm looking for a reasonable C compiler for my old MAX-80.
Either a native compiler, or a cross compiler that I can
run under Unix.  Is there anything available?

Is there anyone else out there who has a MAX-80 from Lobo Systems?

Thanks!

/\ndy

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Date: 21 Nov 92 08:01:22 GMT
From: mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu![e-mail]  (Paul Prescott)
Subject: Re: EPSON QX-ers Important Addresses
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Do any of these Epson oriented publications/software sources include any
support for the PX-8 laptop?

Paul Prescott
[e-mail]

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Date: 19 Nov 92 00:14:16 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!uniwa!cujo![e-mail]  (Don Griffiths)
Subject: Re: Help, sirius files?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Alastair Neil) writes:


>Does anyone remember  the Sirius, did it run cpm? I have a collegue who has disks with
>files written by an old sirius, and he would like to have access to them - but he doesn't
>know what operating system the sirius ran. - Any help/suggestions very welcome.

If you're refering to the Sirius/Victor 9000, it was an 8086 based, non-IBM PC
compatible computer that ran both CP/M 86 and MS-DOS.  If you don't actually
have access to a Sirius, reading the disks can be a problem as they used
variable speed drives (fitting 600k+ onto a  SSDD 5.25 disk).  Best solution,
find someone with both a sirius and another PC and transfer the files by serial
cable. (I have access to such a setup, but I'm a tad far away to be useful :-) )

Don Griffiths
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Information Systems | UUCP     uunet!munnari!cujo.curtin.edu.au!Don
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Date: 19 Nov 92 00:10:00 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pitt.edu!pitt!grgzfla![e-mail]  (Daniel C Becker)
Subject: RE: I just got a Z80 CP/M
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Adrian Silveanu) writes:

> Where there ever any CP/M computers with a moniter other than mono?

IUP (Indiana University of Pennsylvania) had a _really_ niffty color
graphic monitor.  It was made by a company called Vectrix.  It
connected to the parallel printer port and had its own Z80 processor
(intelligent peripherals - imagine that! :-)).  It was controlled by
sending ASCII command strings down the cable.  It could handle 3D
image definitions and motion.

> Is the the CP/M Market dead?

I'll add an emphatic NO!  Remember the addage "Wisdom of the Ancients".

> P.S. Could you please send all your answers to my E-Mail address, because
>      I do not usually read this news group.

Oh, alright...

--
dcb -- {Daniel C | Dan} Becker
UUCP:  ... pitt!grgzfla!dcb    USENET:  [e-mail]
   "This [quote] intentionally left blank."

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Date: 19 Nov 92 13:13:43 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!aukuni.ac.nz!kcbbs![e-mail]  (Richard Plinston)
Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal for a Kaypro II
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

     >>>>> COMPAS Pascal was available for CP/M-86 and Concurrent-CP/M

     Turbo-Pascal 3.0x was available for CP/M-86 too.  There were also
     separate MS-DOS and PC-DOS versions.  The MS-DOS version could
     be configured for serial terminals in the same way as the CP/M
     and CP/M-86.

     cheers
     theories that other MD's (I'm one) have come-up with is the levels of (female
and male) hormones that circulate in the mother (and hence get to the fetus)
may affect the baby in this way. How the mother responds to stress in her life
will determine the hormones that she produces. And everyone has bothe types of
hormones circulating in their body (estrogrens and testosterone).
>> As for the "precious gift of God..." If it wasn't for Christianity, the
human race would not have the problems that it does in dealing with
homosexuality. Every enlighted person knows that Christianity was an opiate
created to oppress the masses and that is exactly what it has done for nearly
2,000 years! Just look at all the hypocrisy in the beloved church itself - they
preach against homosexuality, etc - yet priests are regularly accused of child
molestations, infidelity (breaking the celibate laws), homosexuality with other
priests,etc....
>> Before you flame me all you religious fanatics  - think of this - I actually
had a priest tell me that knowledge (scientific in particular) is a hinderance
to faith and believing! Now if that isn't oppressing the gain of knowledge and
truth, then I don't know what is!!!!!
>> Doc

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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 09:54:11 -0500
From: Jay Sage <[e-mail]>
Subject: Turbo Pascal
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

   Lasse Hiller|e Petersen's information about the origin of Turbo Pascal
was very interesting; I had not heard that before.  I remember talk about
origins of Turbo Pascal in France, where Philippe Kahn grew up, I
understand.  This was the first I heard of a Danish connection.  It would be
interesting to see if there would be another avenue to get some rights to
the code.

   I normally speak out against pirating commercial software (and not only
because I am a developer myself), but in situations like this -- where the
person who wants the software is offering payment but the payment is refused
by the producer -- I say nothing against disks being passed around.
Probably Borland does not even mind that.  These big companies, I am told,
worry about legal entanglements in connection with offering the software for
sale but not supporting it, or even from giving it away.

-- Jay Sage


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Date: 18 Nov 92 20:23:01 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!mimbres.cs.unm.edu!constellation!a.cs.okstate.edu![e-mail]  (STOLFA ROLAND JOSE)
Subject: ZCPR FAQ
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello,

I am wondering where one can get ZCPR, weither source code is available,
etc.  Any and all pointers are welcome.

Thank you in advance...

Roland Stolfa                Internet:    [e-mail]
Computer Science Department        Disclaimer:    You've lost your mind
219 Math Sciences Building                if you think anyone
Oklahoma State University                speaks for this place!

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INFO-CPM Digest             Mon, 23 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue  138

Today's Topics:
                              ALTOS 580
                             msdos to cpm
                          MUSE Manuals Offer
                   Osbourne Kermit/Software Wanted
                            Re: ALTOS 580
              Re: Undocumented Z80 opcodes (film at 11)
                           small c problem
                          Software for trade
             Televideo 806/20 with TS 800A ??? Know it ??

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Date: 13 Nov 92 22:02:01 GMT
From: yale.edu!ira.uka.de!ira.uka.de!smurf.sub.org!altger!doitcr![e-mail]  (Helmut Jungkunz)
Subject: ALTOS 580
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi, whoever is in search of operating systems for the ALTOS 580, I think I can
help. I have OASIS, MPMII and CP/M2.2, under which NZCOM runs nicely (ZCPR34).
Also, I have the DIAGNOSTIC disc, which enables one to format, handle and park
fixed disks.

I am interested in exchanging custom programs for this computer. I have seen
ZMP and MEX Overlays for it, too.

 Waiting to hear from you people.

 Ciao, regards and cu,

 Helmut Jungkunz

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Date: 9 Nov 92 01:49:00 GMT
From: tamsun.tamu.edu!zeus.tamu.edu![e-mail]  (ECKHARDT, JASON LEE)
Subject: msdos to cpm
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Anyone out there know of program that runs under msdos that will write cpm
disks? (on trs-80 model 4).

thanks, jason.   [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 09:14:17 -0500
From: Jay Sage <[e-mail]>
Subject: MUSE Manuals Offer
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

   I am cleaning up and throwing away tons of accummulated junk.  In the
process I came across a set of MUSE manuals, which I would be happy to ship
to someone who could use them.  If you don't don't what they are, you almost
surely don't need them, but for the curious, here are some short excerpts
from the manuals:

  "Welcome to MUSE" contains all information pertinent to version 4.01
  of the MUSE Operating System... It is assumed that you are familiar with
  computer basics and the CP/M Operating System... The Multi-User System
  Executive (MUSE) Operating System is OSM's proprietary operating system
  designed exclusively for the Zeus family of computer systems.  MUSE is
  CP/M-compatible and MP/M-II compatible for RM/COBOL and CB80."

It is even possible that I have the diskettes for this system.  If it is
important, I will try looking for them.

-- Jay Sage


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Date: 9 Nov 92 02:00:47 GMT
From: <[e-mail]>[e-mail]
Subject: Osbourne Kermit/Software Wanted
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I recently acquired an old Obsourne 1, and would like to play around
with it - unfortunately, I'm having a bootstrapping problem, because I
don't have any telcommunications software for it.  If anyone could
send me a disk with kermit on it for the osbourne, I'd really
appreciate it - I'll definitely repay your for your time and costs.
Did anyone ever make a hard disk of any size for this machine?

I'd also appreciate the names or addresses of any user's group that
might have a library of software for this machine.

Finally, if anyone has any software around for this machine, and no
longer wants it, please let me know - I'd be interested in purchasing
it.

Thanks!

   Bill
   ([e-mail])

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Date: 18 Nov 92 07:15:55 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!utcsri!skule.ecf!torn!nott!cunews!revcan!cerianthus!pinetree![e-mail]  (garth jones)
Subject: Re: ALTOS 580
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Helmut Jungkunz) writes:

> Hi, whoever is in search of operating systems for the ALTOS 580, I think I ca
> help. I have OASIS, MPMII and CP/M2.2, under which NZCOM runs nicely (ZCPR34)
> Also, I have the DIAGNOSTIC disc, which enables one to format, handle and par
> fixed disks.
>
> I am interested in exchanging custom programs for this computer. I have seen
> ZMP and MEX Overlays for it, too.

That would be me! I have four machine here of which 3 will work( the
forth start to strip for parts) I don't have much in the way of software
for Altos, But I do have allot for Kaypro's. How can I get the Os from
you? I would pay any cost if you can send them to me. My snail mail
address is

        51 Mc Intosh Place
        Kanata Ontario
        Canada
        K2L 2N7

My fido address is 1:163/411.5 and my internet address is at the bottom

        Garth
BTW I have infomation on this machine, Like how to format the HD, How to
increase the size of the HD, and What type of HD will work with it.

--
  Internet: [e-mail] (garth jones)
  UUCP: pinetree!garth
  Gordon's Pinetree -- Ottawa, ON, Canada -- [phone] -- v.32bis/v.42bis

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Date: 16 Nov 92 14:47:36 GMT
From: uw-coco!nwnexus!hitech![e-mail]  (Clyde Smith-Stubbs)
Subject: Re: Undocumented Z80 opcodes (film at 11)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] writes:

>Does anyone have a List
>of the UNdocumented op-codes
>For the Zilog Z80 Mirco processor

>Garret Flynn,
>Information Technology,
>University of Limerick,
               ^^^^^^^^
>Ireland,

    Young Garret, a man of great elocution,
    upon observing the Z80's execution,
        found its gate array included,
        many instructions that were excluded,
    from the official manufacturers publication!


Sorry! I couldn't resist!
--
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Date: 8 Nov 92 06:47:00 GMT
From: cs.utexas.edu!tamsun.tamu.edu!zeus.tamu.edu![e-mail]  (ECKHARDT, JASON LEE)
Subject: small c problem
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I just got smallc21 and it seems that I can't use the "%f" conversion
specifier with this compiler?!  Is this not built in this version or am
I supposed to include something? If this is a deficiency, is there another
pd compiler available with a full 'c' implementation? (ansi would be great).

jason.

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Date: 19 Nov 92 06:49:17 GMT
From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!news.cc.tut.fi![e-mail]  (Kentt{l{ Marko)
Subject: Software for trade
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I`ve got:
Turbo-Pascal 3.0
Macro-80 3.44 & link-80 3.41
Fortran-80 3.44
MuLISP-80 2.15
BASIC-80 5.26
Mac 2.0
Rmac 1.1 & link 1.31
BDS C 1.50
Algol-m 1.1
S-BASIC 5.26

and I`m more than willing to trade any/some of these to:
Z80 C compiler (Hi-Tech C, MIX C, Aztec C, ...)
Modula-2 compiler
Wordstar 3.1-4
Maths prog (Mumath, calcstar, ...)
or to almost anything...



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Date: 16 Nov 92 22:31:23 GMT
From: yale.edu!spool.mu.edu!agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!mcsun!news.funet.fi!funic!news.lut.fi![e-mail]  (Willi Messmer)
Subject: Televideo 806/20 with TS 800A ??? Know it ??
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Yes, I just received againa new piece of interesting hardware, a
Televideo 806/20 and a "computer/terminal" TS800A.
It has a 19Mb hardie.

The problem is connecting the computerm to the "server". Need to make
the cable.

If you have any knowlidge or info on this system, please contact me
by email. You could in your first mail include some descriptions on
the OS (cpm-80, MmmOST, cpm-86 etc. features, putting it to multiusers
mode ....)

Thanks

Willi
[e-mail]

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