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- From: billp@io.com (Bill Peterson)
- Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.paranet.ufo
- Subject: Re: Jung
- Date: 15 Jun 1996 00:30:21 -0500
- Organization: Illuminati Online
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- In article <4ptd2v$rpj@buffnet2.buffnet.net>, <zylka@buffnet.net> wrote:
- >billp@io.com (Bill Peterson) wrote:
- >
- >
- >
- >>What you are saying is interesting, but many skeptics/debunkers refer
- >>to "mass hallucination" as if there really was such a phenomenon; they
- >>frequently will point to Jung as a reference. Periodically, someone
- >>points out that Jung, when faced with the physical evidence, never
- >>said that UFO's were hallucinations. Skeptics/debunkers never seem
- >>to hear this message.
- >
- >I believe that one has to place Jung's comments on UFOs within the
- >context of his greater weltenschaung. Jung developed the theory of
- >psychological archetypes. Much of what he borrowed from to develop
- >and lend credence to his theory came from mythology.
- >
- >Jung believed that modern man in general had (has) become
- >disillusioned due to the de-mystification of established religious
- >institutions. Psychological life for Jung was "symbolic." And he
- >believed that at his heart, man needs symbols to complete the process
- >of individuation. This sort of "iconology" was historically the
- >function served by religion. In his later writings, particularly,
- >Jung frequently lamented the "loss" of esotericism and saw this as our
- >collective loss. As a result, Jung felt that we are driven to replace
- >it. And, that is precisely where UFO lore came in, in Jung's view.
- >It was a new, modern, "technological" way for mankind to replace their
- >"old" mythological gods and heroes/villains. In essence, Jung saw the
- >flare of ufology to be a reaction to the loss of the mystical. He
- >makes reference, for example, to Vatican Council II -- the Catholic
- >Church being, in his opinion, up til then the final bastion in the
- >Western World of mystical communion with the esoteric mythology that
- >man needs and responds to for his psychological growth.
- >
- >Within this context, Jung saw the UFO phenomenon as "The New
- >Mythology."
- >
-
- This could be totally true, and the aliens are manipulating it, just
- as they did the earlier "gods" thing. This is more like an idea by Vallee.
- Perhaps they are leading us, and Jung is right. But the UFO's are
- physical, tangible, technological, machines. Of that there is no
- doubt. I have the greatest respect for Jung, and feel that his
- understanding of the Collective Unconcious was inspired. What is
- difficult though, is to understand the great load of suffering that
- the global psyche has to carry. I'm not sure Jung penetrated that.
-
- As for religion, there is a religious frame of mind, that has nothing
- to do with any organized human religion. Free thinkers of all ages
- have understood that organized religion is for those who are empty
- and seeking. This was just a human structure, and temporary. What
- the mind creates, it can destroy.
-
- BP
- --
- Disclaimer: I only speak for myself, and sometimes I wish I hadn't!
-