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- From: Cluster User <cluster_user@yale.edu>
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- Subject: Re: Does Clinton Know ?
- Date: 25 Jun 1996 15:26:58 GMT
- Organization: Yale University
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- mje@pookie.pass.wayne.edu (Michael Edelman) wrote:
- >Cluster User (cluster_user@yale.edu) wrote:
- >
- >: Carter promised to try to get to the bottom of what the government might or
- >: might not know about UFOs. But as far as I know, he dropped the whole subject
- >: after getting in to office.
- >
- >So says the folk tale that lives on.
- What?
- >
- >Actually, he had promised to open up any confidential files containing
- >evidence of alien spacecraft or similar phenomena. He later stated that
- >he had his staff investigate, and discovered there were no such secret files.
-
- Well, the real question is: did Carter lie about there being "no secret files",
- or was he duped into believing there were none? Because, of course, now we all
- know that there are/were plenty of them- in large part thanks to the Freedom of
- Information Act.
-
- Any way you look at it, the Carter issue is interesting. I can't really decide
- which way it went, maybe it was a mixture of both. My best guess is that he
- must have been denied access to them by a government worried about this new
- renegade president claiming he's going to open the vault doors to military
- secrets. That seems likely, because I think at some level of government there
- are strategies to deal with the temporary nature of individuals elected to the
- presidency, to keep these individuals isolated from certain information deemed
- too important for any transient to know about. That would be realistic, since
- presidents are an unpredictable ingredient in otherwise stable government
- control structure. Any guy off the streets could theoretically become
- president... yes, even a commie! If even wackos loners like J.E. Hoover could
- get a grip on presidents, imagine what a group of generals or some other people
- of power working backstage within the government could do, or have done. They
- could build an inpenetrable inner control structure, and may have. The real
- question is, what would keep them from doing it?
-
- I know, many people think this is "conspiracy talk"- we've been trained well.
- Fact is, the government is a power structure- and are we really so naive to
- believe that it is somehow unique in that it just "stops acquiring" control at
- a certain point? Or that our wondrous "checks and balances" are so powerful
- that they can always diffuse any foci of power? No such "perfect machine" has
- ever been designed, and we can all be sure that Ed Hoover was not just an
- anomaly. In fact, it is only anomalous that such an paranoid idiot could
- amalgamate so much power. Imagine what a group of smart people could do...
-
- >So either every president has been in on the conspiracy, or there are no
- >such files.
-
- No, logically that isn't what you are left with. read above.
-
- >Jimmy was not known for keeping secrets; he revealed the existence of the
- >F-117 program (to the shock and disgust of the defense community) in
- >order to show that he wasn't as anti-defense as some critics charged.
- >I don't think he'd be above leaking some saucer data for votes.
-
- If Carter was not known for not keeping secrets, then you can be pretty sure
- that he was kept away from anything really secret. Who do you think the
- existence of the F-117 program was a secret from by that point in it's
- development- the Soviets? I doubt that. It was a secret from the people paying
- for it, U.S. taxpayers, and I bet the defense community would be pissed off
- that Jimmy would give us some idea what we pay for. The military would much
- rather spend its money secretly.
-
- maybe Jimmy got his revenge against a government that made him look like a fool
- on the UFO issue. Maybe Jimmy was told that by releasing some conventional,
- benign secrets, he would be more believable regarding the claim of no UFO
- files. Who the hell knows what went on. There is no point in guessing.
-
- >And Clinton? Think he wouldn't leak some saucer data to get hisself a
- >little extra political oomph?
-
- He signed the document exempting the government from releasing the Area 51
- chemical inventory, effectively blocking rightful citizen law suits against the
- government. That says it all. And now that Hillary got screwed for seeing
- psychics, you can bet he's going to stay away from anything that smacks of
- "paranormal."
-
-