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                 ORTK BULLETIN #4 (Organizing on the Internet)
                           By Ed Komarek 5/11/95

INTERNET:

     Your ORTK internet organizers are hard at work.  All we ask is
that all you folks on our free membership and mailing list please be
patient with us.  We don't want to lose anybody.  Because we are having
to learn as we go along, we will be making mistakes.  We are doing our
best to protect privacy while at the same time allow for free and open
exchanges.  Our main membership list is in the process of being
protected so that I and anybody else won't mail it out again--we hope.
I really was lucky that the chunk of list in my computer was mailed out
because last Monday the library computer here crashed my disk and
everything on it was lost including the part of the mailing list I had.
(I know I'm supposed to have a backup but we are still learning.)  I
lost maybe 15 members from last weekend so if you do not receive this
in your email box, but see it posted someplace,  please re-subscribe by
emailing me Ed Komarek at:  [e-mail] or subscribe
directly to  Laurent's listserve.

     I think you can now subscribe and unsubscribe directly on the
listserve that Laurent has set up.  We also have an ORTK awaiter
address that Eric is handling.  We will soon consolidate all the
addresses together. We hope to do this after we get all the bugs in our
mailing systems worked out.  There is bound to be confusion until we
get our membership and mailing list all in one place, either with the
awaiter address or with the listserve.  If you are getting double or
triple mailings, let us know and we will try to work things out. Its
quite possible with all the confusion that you might get dropped from
the main list. If you go more than a week without getting a post it
might be good to re-subscribe to  Laurent's listserve. Check in with
Laurent if you are having trouble.  Remember, Ed here is still pretty
computer illiterate.

Included at the bottom of the Bulletin is a explanation from Laurent on
what he has done with the listserve and how you can get on board.
Hopefully, those of you that are more computer literate than the rest
of us can work with him to perfect the system

ORTK NEWSLETTER

     Dan Pinchas the editor of the ORTK Forum (our newsletter) reports that
the ORTK Forum is now available to the regular membership and is on its way
to Mark Hines our internet editor for posting at the internet site:
http://www.duke.edu/~dpk/ortkinde.html   The new newsletter is not there at
the site yet but should be soon.  New members that want more information on
ORTK just click on the 1994 date on our internet page for the last
newsletter. The best way to learn more about ORTK is to subscribe and we
will send you our weekly bulletins to keep you up to date and informed.
Thanks to Mark for editing this Bulletin #4.

ALLEDGED ROSWELL ARCHIVAL FILM FOOTAGE

     I have received some questions from our members as to what's going
on. Here, thanks to Patricia, is some material. Notice that ORTK's John
Holman was there.  Lets hope that his friend, ORTK internet member
Paul, can get us some more information.

[condensed]

From: [e-mail] (chrisw)
Mr. Ray Santilli invited media and researchers to a showing of the
Roswell film at the Museum of London, on 5th May 1995. Colin Andrews
flew to London from his Connecticut home to attend, having been invited
to an earlier private viewing of some of the material in January this
year. Colin has just returned to his UK office from London and sent
this report:

The meeting started at 1.00 PM, in the lecture theatre. We arrived at
12.30 PM. Many familiar faces were there, some as follows:

George Wingfield
Robert Irving
Bob Kiviat (Fox/Paramount Films)
Phillip Mantel (BUFORA)
Michael Hesemann (Germany)
Nick Pope (MOD - Ministry of Defence - UK Government)
Carlton TV - UK
BBC radio 1 - UK
Daily Express UK
NBC - USA
Many other media
Reg Presley (Troggs pop group and friend of Colin)
Pete (Troggs)
Ray Santilli (Film owner)
Harry.... (Santilli's accountant)
His office staff
Researcher from Italy and Germany
John Holman - UK
Kent Jeofries - USA
total approx. 100

Everybody was frisked and NO cameras or recorders, etc. were allowed
inside the theatre. The showing started at 5 mins. past one with no
introduction; the lights were simply turned off. The film started by
saying:

"The film you are about to see is taken from 16 mm original films on
3 minute-long canisters and was purchased from the person who filmed
it. All copyright is with Merlin Communications Ltd."

[Description of film:]
At a table in a well-equipped [operating] theatre, two people in white
outfits and hoods and visors over eyes (all-in-one suits) were
inspecting the being. A third person was observing from behind a glass
screen in the wall of the theatre; he/she was also wearing an outfit
with a larger glass visor.

One of the surgeons looked closely at the body and was gesturing where
he/she would be cutting and pulling the legs apart inspecting the
vagina. The female being had no breasts. It had five fingers and a
thumb [6 digits] on each hand and RP says he counted six toes also (I
could only see 5.) The ears were smaller than ours and located lower on
the head than ours, level with the mouth. The head was larger
(especially behind) and the eyes were larger, at least as big as golf
balls. It had a small nose and small mouth, which was open. The body
was very muscle-bound with very short, stocky legs and larger
human-looking feet. The belly was very large and looked 8 month's
pregnant, which it was not. The ears had the same major spiral trough
as ours but was smooth and featureless above, more simple and basic
than ours.

The surgeon cut from below the neck/chin down to the vagina and I
believe a tee-line outwards across the lower stomach. The chest and
stomach were exposed and the heart removed and placed into a tray with
other substances from around that immediate area. The lungs were
removed from behind into another tray. The camera was handheld, and
would on occasion move in close, losing focus in so doing. The flesh
and attachments to the organs being removed were moving and responding
to those actions in a very convincing manner -- as if real. There were
small amounts of fluids running down the side of the body when the body
was opened and organs removed. The colour of the liquid was dark and
bloodlike. After the organs were cut out with a scalpel the surgeon cut
a continuous line around the middle of the head and I think over the
top, and peeled back the skin from rear to front over the eyes,
revealing the scalp. He took a saw and cut across the head and removed
the brain with other material and placed it into another tray. Before
the brain procedure started the surgeon removed a black lens layer from
each eye, revealing white eyes just like ours under it. The eyes had
pupils like ours which were looking up into the head (as a deceased
human would.)

The single black layer of material was slightly disc-shaped to fit over
the eye pupil. It was as if a filter lens/contact lens had been fitted
into the eye. The right leg had a serious open wound, exposing the
major bones from the lower part of the upper leg to middle calf area.
The surgeon moved the leg, inspecting the joint.

A large clock was on the wall to the side of the table and time I
believe began at 10.30 and was seen again around 11.25. A wall-mounted
telephone was visible, as were glass bottles and medical instruments.

The body and procedures looked very authentic and in my opinion would
have been hard to fake, but perhaps not impossible with current
techniques.

At the end of the film, the lights came on and with no comment people
were expected to leave. I was talking with Nick Pope (MOD) when a large
group gathered at the rear of the theatre around Ray Santilli and
minders who were already saying he will not answer questions and [that]
the photographer is 80 odd [years old] and does not want the questions
and exposure.

No other questions were answered and he was whisked out with the media
and myself staying with him. I shook his hand earlier and he
acknowledged me. I asked him as we all crowded around him, "Will you be
seeing us in your office?" He said, "Yes, later." A TV interviewer
said, "How am I supposed to interview you without being given access to
any other material?"

When I was interviewed by BBC radio 1 outside, they told me that BBC TV
had purchased a small amount of film and would be showing it next
month.

It is believed that a major U.S. media company has made a bid. A fax
bid was received on 3rd May from a group of Attornies in Washington
representing an unnamed client (possibly U.S. Government) offering 1.8
million dollars for all materials to be returned to the USA. Mr. Takano
(CA contact in Japan) faxed me in USA thanking me for my help putting
them in touch with Santilli and said Santilli was going to fly to Hong
Kong on ... May to show them the film. Update to follow later. 6th May
1995 - Colin Andrews UK.


UPDATE ON THE LIST SERVE (Continued in 2/2)
By Lawrence Levesque