Day 007 - 06 Jul 94 - Page 26


     
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         Q.   There are, however, still 22 countries using HCFCs 22?
     2        A.  Also correct.
 
     3   Q.   We notice in Latin America that there are a number of
              countries using HCFCs 22, do you see that?
     4        A.  Yes, several.
 
     5   Q.   All hydrocarbons, and that only two, Argentina and El
              Salvador, are using paper board?
     6        A.  Yes.
 
     7   Q.   On the right hand column, we see a whole list of dates for
              phase-out of foam?
     8        A.  Yes.
 
     9   Q.   What is the reason for that?
              A.  At that point in time McDonald's US had announced its
    10        planned phase-out of foam packaging containers.  It was
              completed before this date -- no, the foam phase out was
    11        not completed at that date yet, so that was to reflect
              when the foam clam shells would have been phased out.
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         Q.   Do you know why Latin America followed suit or intended to
    13        follow suit?
              A.  I am not 100 per cent aware of why.
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         Q.   Mr. Langert might know the answer to that?
    15        A.  OK.
 
    16   Q.   Turn over the page, please, 489E?
              A.  OK.
    17
         Q.   This is about six months later, 21st May 1992?
    18        A.  Yes.
 
    19   Q.   Roughly speaking, perhaps a bit more.  We found now there
              are still in the world no-one using CFCs?
    20        A.  Yes.
 
    21   Q.   Right?
              A.  Correct.
    22
         Q.   That the number using HCFCs has been reduced to nine?
    23        A.  Yes, a dramatic reduction in Latin America especially.
 
    24   Q.   Except one, Venezuela, the whole of Latin America is using
              paper?
    25        A.  Yes.
  
    26   Q.   Venezuela is using hydrocarbon? 
              A.  Correct. 
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         Q.   Turn on to 489F:  January 14th 1993, still (as one perhaps
    28        might expect) no CFCs, still nine HCFCs, and Venezuela
              being the sole user of hydrocarbons still in Latin
    29        America?
              A.  Yes.
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         Q.   So, broadly speaking, not much change between these two

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