Day 018 - 26 Jul 94 - Page 15


     
     1   Q.   Are there any -- before I ask that question -- I did not
              ask you, and I cannot remember if you said, I apologise if
     2        you did, does fresh air get into the shed in any way or is
              it completely enclosed?
     3        A.  Fresh air gets into the shed by -----
 
     4   Q.   It is not an air conditioning system?
              A.  By mechanical ventilation which is thermostatically
     5        controlled.
 
     6   Q.   How do they cope if they have weather such as we have been
              cursed with in these last three or four weeks?
     7        A.  This depends a lot upon the ventilation system used in
              the particular shed.  They do vary from shed to shed.
     8        I did not check out the ventilation system for a heat
              stress situation at this particular unit.
     9
         Q.   So we must ask Dr. Pattison what techniques they use to
    10        keep the temperature to an acceptable level?
              A.  Yes.
    11
         Q.   This question I shall ask again in relation to different
    12        areas of your expertise and your inspections of these
              different operations.  I am about to leave the broiler
    13        unit at Sun Valley and move to their slaughtering
              facilities, but before we do that I would like to ask you
    14        this:  Were there any aspects of the operation at the unit
              which you would wish to see improved?
    15        A.  Within the limitations of the existing criteria for
              broiler production, I think they are at a high standard
    16        and they should maintain that high standard.  I would like
              to see the development of genetic strains which are less
    17        prone to leg weakness of grade 3 level.  I do not feel it
              is necessarily within the remit of Sun Valley poultry to
    18        achieve that.  It is the breeding companies which are
              unrelated companies to Sun Valley.
    19
         Q.   How many chickens do the British consume every year,
    20        Dr. Gregory?
              A.  Broiler chickens and hens, it would be around 650
    21        million, I believe, but I am open to correction.
 
    22   Q.   That is about one a month per head population, roughly?
              A.  OK.
    23
         Q.   Can we go away now -----
    24
         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  While it is there, what would the genetic
    25        variation be?  Would it be so they were lighter and not so
              heavy on their feet or legs, or would it strengthen their 
    26        legs or would it be much more sophisticated than that? 
              A.  We are doing research at Bristol which is aimed at 
    27        answering your very question.  The findings are showing
              that the likely avenue for success is to improve the
    28        criteria they are using when they select the birds.  They
              are selected for growth rate.  They are not selecting
    29        adequate criteria in terms of walking ability.
 
    30        That is one particular breeding company we are
              collaborating with.  So it could be achieved just by

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