Day 018 - 26 Jul 94 - Page 21


     
     1   Q.   Did you examine the birds -- you seem to have examined a
              hundred of them?
     2        A.  I palpated the wing bones of about a hundred birds,
              yes.
     3
         Q.   You found no broken bones?
     4        A.  Nor dislocations either.
 
     5   Q.   Did you conclude the disturbance of hanging the birds on
              the line was as low as could be hoped for?
     6        A.  Under the circumstances of existing practice, yes.
 
     7   Q.   When they are hanging on the line, hanging by shackles, is
              there any mechanical assistance to help them calm down?
     8        A.  Yes.
 
     9   Q.   What is that?
              A.  It goes by the term of a breast comforter.  It is a
    10        plastic sheet against which the birds are drawn as they
              are conveyed by the overhead line.  The breast of the bird
    11        makes contact with that plastic sheet and this has a
              calming or quietening effect on the bird's physical
    12        activity.
 
    13   Q.   Is this something one could achieve manually?  If you
              stroke a bird that is in a state of alarm, can you calm it
    14        down?
              A.  To some extent yes, so it is probably fulfilling a
    15        similar function.
 
    16   Q.   Do you think it is an effective device, this?
              A.  Yes, one to be commended.
    17
         Q.   You made measurements showing how long it took for the
    18        birds to reach the stunning bath from the point of
              shackling?
    19        A.  Yes.
 
    20   Q.   You measured the time at 1.16 seconds which would be,
              I suppose, more or less constant, would it not, because
    21        the line moves at a constant speed?
              A.  It can be varied but that would be normal.
    22
         Q.   Does that seem to you an acceptable period of time from
    23        the animal welfare point of view?
              A.  It is well within the recommendation in the code of
    24        practice.
 
    25   Q.   There is a risk, is there not, that a bird which is
              hanging by its legs goes into the stunning bath with its 
    26        head, does it not? 
              A.  Correct. 
    27
         Q.   It is a bath full of water through which an electric
    28        current runs?
              A.  Yes.
    29
         Q.   Is there a risk that a bird may miss the water?
    30        A.  Under some circumstances, yes.
 

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