Day 030 - 03 Oct 94 - Page 17


     
     1        A.  Yes, because it seems to be, in this context, this
     2        comes to the centre of the matter, because in your
     3        statement complained of, one of the things that is said,
     4        as I recall from memory, is something like, "This is not
     5        cranky opinion.  This is established medical fact".  Is
     6        that a rough -----
     7
     8   Q.   Something like that.
     9        A.  You would agree that is roughly what part of the
    10        statement complained of?
    11
    12   Q.   Yes.
    13        A.  Well, it seems to me the crux of the matter here is
    14        what is meant by "established medical fact".  My own view,
    15        subject to the court's judgment, is what is meant by that
    16        is the concurrence of judgment -- is the concurrence of
    17        judgment of expert committees that are set up for that
    18        purpose; as I say, either by governments or by
    19        authoritative scientific bodies.  If that is what is meant
    20        by fact, which is to say a judgment based on fact, then I
    21        think the statement complained of is fair.
    22
    23   Q.   We will come to that later on.  Let us just go to that
    24        now.  Would you say it is generally accepted -- would you
    25        like to put the case of what you feel is generally
    26        accepted by -----
    27
    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just wait a moment.  Is this set out in more
    29        detail in -- is the answer to that question in Mr.
    30        Cannon's supplemental statement?
    31
    32   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, it is on page 2.
    33
    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am sure there would be no objection by
    35        Mr. Rampton -- why not let Mr. Cannon have his statement
    36        in front of him and go to the relevant part?  I will
    37        underline it and you can ask him if he wants to add
    38        anything to it or explain it in any way.
    39
    40   MR. MORRIS:  Do you have a copy of your statement?
    41        A.  Yes, I have.
    42
    43   Q.   If you go to page 2 you have said:  "It is generally
    44        accepted by authoritative scientific bodies that a diet
    45        high in fatty meat, dairy products, fat, saturated fat,
    46        sugar and/or salt, and correspondingly low in vegetables,
    47        fruit, starchy foods, and fibre, such as that typically
    48        eaten in the UK, is an important cause of disorders and
    49        diseases that are disagreeable (tooth decay,
    50        constipation), debilitating (obesity, diseases of the 
    51        bones and gut), and also deadly (stroke, heart attacks, 
    52        and various cancers including those of the breast and 
    53        colon)."
    54
    55        Can you just outline how you came to that conclusion, that
    56        it was generally accepted by authoritative scientific
    57        bodies?
    58        A.  Well, a couple of comments on what you said.  You
    59        missed out "eg", that is to say, "for example".  That is
    60        not a complete list.  As I say, in the beginning of my

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