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     1        one, such as the countries in the UK, everybody is at high
     2        risk of these diseases which are caused in some
     3        considerable part by the typical industrialised diet such
     4        as is eaten in the UK.
     5
     6        Perhaps I should explain the term "industrialised".  It is
     7        a loose term, but I think fair.  The meaning of that word
     8         -- the term "western diet" can also be used -- is that
     9        since industrialisation there has been a tendency for
    10        diets in western countries and also in what you might call
    11        westernized or industrialised parts of developing
    12        countries to become higher in fat, saturated fat, sugar,
    13        salt, when people drink alcohol; correspondingly low in
    14        fibre; generally low in vegetables and fruit.  Taken
    15        together, and also taken in every individual part, that
    16        diet is pathogenic; that is to say, the diet as a whole
    17        increases your risk of the diseases that Sir Richard Doll
    18        referred to, and also specific aspects of that diet
    19        increase the risk of specific diseases.
    20
    21   Q.   If we move on to specifically diet and cancer.  You say in
    22        your statement that the evidence on diet and cancer is
    23        voluminous and has been judged a sufficiently reliable
    24        basis for recommendations to various bodies.  Can you just
    25        expand a little bit on that?
    26        A.  Well, first of all, there is no doubt that the
    27        evidence is voluminous.  My own organisation, for example,
    28        has been conducting Medline searches on diet and cancer --
    29        that is to say, searches using the on-line database which
    30        is gathered on medical matters.  It is called Medline.
    31        There are now published in leading peer review journals
    32        something of the order of 300 or 400 papers every year on
    33        diet and cancer, and my own organisation has now collected
    34        a database of, I think, now approaching 5,000 papers;
    35        again leading papers and peer review journals on diet and
    36        cancer.  That is as far as them being voluminous is
    37        concerned.
    38
    39   Q.   Is that your job to monitor those reports?
    40        A.  Yes.
    41
    42   Q.   You obviously cannot read every one?
    43        A.  It is the job of the division of which I am the head,
    44        yes.  Going to your second point, about the evidence being
    45        consistent enough as to be a basis for public health
    46        recommendations -- is that your question?
    47
    48   Q.   Yes.
    49        A.  Well, one of the points I make in my statement is that
    50        every time an authoritative scientific committee has been 
    51        commissioned by government or by a relevant scientific or 
    52        medical body to take a view on diet and cancer since 1982, 
    53        they have always broadly come to the same conclusion.  To
    54        put it another way, if the question was:  Has there ever
    55        been an expert committee commissioned by government or an
    56        authoritative scientific or medical body on diet and
    57        cancer that has come to the view there is no connection
    58        between diet and cancer, or no relevant connection between
    59        diet and cancer, the answer to that question is, no;
    60        although, again, there are individual scientists who take

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