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     1        until something like the end of the first week of July.
     2        Then one can see that there is remaining issue of the
     3        rainforests and publication, closing speeches in November
     4        and, after a break for preparation and then, presumably,
     5        judgment perhaps -- I think I mean December -- some time in
     6        1996.
     7
     8        I do not proffer this document in terrorem in any sense at
     9        all.  It does not contain as many breaks as we have had so
    10        far.  I report to your Lordship merely this, that out of 53
    11        days when we could have sat since 12th September your
    12        Lordship has, in fact, heard evidence on only 29.
    13
    14        I fully understand the reason for that and I am not
    15        suggesting in any sense that I dissent -- it would be
    16        impertinent to do so in any sense -- from the course which
    17        your Lordship has chosen to take in this case.  I do,
    18        however, observe that there is a three week break at
    19        Christmas coming up, and that it might be that your
    20        Lordship would think that we could get on a bit more
    21        quickly after Christmas than we have so far.
    22
    23        The other observation I make is that, as I said to your
    24        Lordship, I think, on Thursday, we would not propose to
    25        call employment witnesses about specific allegations that
    26        might be an injured hand or a bossy manager unless and
    27        until we were confident that the Defendants were going to
    28        call the witness who made the allegation.  Here I am
    29        talking about this country.
    30
    31        My Lord, to that end, what we would respectfully submit is
    32        that it would be helpful to everybody -- your Lordship
    33        included -- if by the end of January of next year the
    34        Defendants were able to indicate whether they were going to
    35        call all those witnesses and, if not, which ones they were
    36        going to call and which ones they were not going to call.
    37
    38        I say the end of January because that gives them not only
    39        the Christmas break, it actually gives them very nearly a
    40        month of sitting time to make the necessary enquiries.
    41
    42        What I do not wish to do, partly because it is a waste of
    43        my client's time and money, but also because it is a waste
    44        of the court's time, is to call witnesses to deal with
    45        allegations which, in fact, the Defendants are not going to
    46        be able to prove because they have no witness coming to
    47        court to prove it.
    48
    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  When I get into the pink, those are
    50        Defendants' witnesses or potential witnesses on employment, 
    51        are they? 
    52 
    53   MR. RAMPTON:  No, my Lord.  The ones that are named in the first
    54        part of the pink are Plaintiffs' witnesses running through
    55        until the end of the first week of May.  The Defendants'
    56        witnesses do not start on that scenario until Monday,
    57        8th May.  We have put in our general witnesses first in
    58        February and March.  We start, according to this scheme,
    59        specific witnesses on 27th March.  We go through to Easter
    60        and beyond Easter, as I say, until the end of the first

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