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2 MS. STEEL: It is possible but she would like it to be fairly
3 definite so she knows whether she has to come back.
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5 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. Someone has to check the position with
6 Mr. Mallinson, or can we be confident about that now?
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8 MR. RAMPTON: We cannot be absolutely confident, but I know that
9 Mr. Mallinson is telephoning his secretary today, so we
10 will know today. We will know before Ms. Dibb goes abroad,
11 I hope, whether he can be inked in as a certainty.
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13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I do not want to enquire about the details of
14 her holiday, obviously, but is Ms. Dibb going to be
15 somewhere where she can get to a phone and communicate
16 without great difficulty? I appreciate the whole point of
17 going away on holiday is not to think about work, but if
18 she did not mind she can communicate, can she, by phone?
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20 MS. STEEL: If the Plaintiffs have not found out before she
21 leaves, then she will telephone us.
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23 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It looks almost certain as if they will know
24 before she goes but I am only enquiring in case there is
25 some problem. Shall we say this, that we will hope to hear
26 Ms. Dibb's evidence on that Thursday and Friday?
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28 MR. RAMPTON: Yes.
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30 MR. JUSTICE BELL: But there will be communication between the
31 parties to sort that out, hopefully, within the next 24
32 hours.
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34 MR. RAMPTON: We will communicate also, of course, with your
35 Lordship's clerk.
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37 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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39 MR. RAMPTON: In fact, Mr. Hill has gone outside now to
40 telephone Mr. Mallinson's secretary in the hope that within
41 the next ten minutes or so we can have an answer which will
42 help everybody. My Lord, can I say what this chart
43 represents?
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45 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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47 MR. RAMPTON: It does not represent what I might call tablets of
48 stone; what it represents is how Mrs. Brinley-Codd
49 estimates that the case will run if all the witnesses are
50 called. What she has done is to put -- I think it is pink
51 in your Lordship's copy -- at about the end of March the
52 start of what one might call the employment witnesses who
53 deal with specific as opposed to general allegations made
54 by the Defendants, starting from Monday, March 27th.
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56 One can see that there is a blank over Easter to Thursday
57 13th through, as Americans say, Monday 24th April. Then
58 one can see that, assuming that we have to call all our
59 witnesses and that that is because the Defendants call all
60 their witnesses, one would not, in fact, finish employment