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2 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Can I just check on that last answer before
3 you go on, please, Mr. Rampton? Is what you are saying
4 that after they indicated they thought four years support
5 of Britain in Bloom was long enough and they were
6 contemplating withdrawing it from Bin it for Britain, then
7 you gave them the award in recognition of past services?
8 A. No, no.
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10 Q. What are you saying then?
11 A. That during the course of this period of time they
12 received the -- I mean, they were still funding the Britain
13 in Bloom award when they got their first award and were
14 (and are still) funding Bin it for Britain when they
15 received the second award. The point I was making is that,
16 I think like many companies, they determine a period of
17 time over which they will engage in a sponsorship, then
18 they say: "We think we have done that for long enough".
19 It is then always open to us with them, as indeed other
20 companies, to suggest other ways in which they might care
21 to support our work.
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23 Q. What you are saying is you are not hoping that they will go
24 on for ever because you give them an award? That is the
25 import of your evidence?
26 A. No, not at all. The awards are given to a range of
27 people who are in no position to assist us in that way.
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29 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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31 MR. RAMPTON: You told us, I think, that your Group is a
32 charity?
33 A. Yes.
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35 Q. It has a Council?
36 A. Yes.
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38 Q. Are they all trustees, the members of the Council?
39 A. Yes.
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41 Q. How many members of the Council are there?
42 A. 25 members of the Council.
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44 Q. Are they, as it were, in the position, many of them or not,
45 of non-executive directors in the sense they do not have to
46 do the day-to-day running of the Group?
47 A. That is exactly so. They none of them do the
48 day-to-day running of the Group.
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50 Q. From what walks of life do these 25 Council Members come?
51 A. They come from -- the Tidy Britain Group is made up of
52 members who become members by invitation and that
53 invitation comes about as a result of them having shown an
54 interest in our work, and included on the Council are --
55 included in the membership are organisations like the
56 Guides and the Scouts, The National Federation of Women's
57 Institutes, The Institute of Waste Management and The
58 Institution of Environmental Health Officers and some
59 companies like Shell and Coca Cola and McDonald's. Those
60 companies are able to elect a Council and the Council are
