Day 077 - 25 Jan 95 - Page 27

     
     1        have you?
     2        A.  Yes, I have.
     3
     4   Q.   I want to ask you, first of all, whether you recognise this
     5        or not?
     6        A.  Yes, I do.
     7
     8   Q.   When did you first see this, do you think?
     9        A.  Last year.
    10
    11   Q.   Last year.  Turn to page 2, please.  It says:  Animal
    12        welfare and husbandry.  Summary of supplier positions".
    13        For beef the first entry is McKey, do you see that?
    14        A.  I do.
    15
    16   Q.   What I want to know is did you or your company contribute
    17        that part of this document or not?  If you would just like
    18        to read it first to yourself?
    19        A.  Yes, I see parts in there which I know we wrote
    20        originally in the McKey document.
    21
    22   Q.   But you did not actually write this passage?
    23        A.  I did not write that, no.
    24
    25   Q.   I would like you to turn over then, please, to something
    26        which I think is unquestionably a McKey document which is
    27        at tab 3.  Do you recognise this document?
    28        A.  Yes, I do.
    29
    30   Q.   It has not got any entries in it.  It is a proforma.  Tell
    31        us precisely what this document is for and who would fill
    32        it in?
    33        A.  I have one employee who works on the technical side of
    34        the business -- he is responsible to the Group Technical
    35        Manager -- and his task in the McKey company, he is
    36        continually on the road visiting abattoirs and boning
    37        rooms.  Every time he visits one he fills in one of these
    38        audit forms and that then comes back and it ends up on my
    39        desk.
    40
    Q.   Do you read them?
    42        A.  I do read them.
    43
    44   Q.   We see it is headed "McKey Food Service", I mean the
    45        typewritten bit is headed "McKey Food Service Meat Supplier
    46        Audit Form".  Can I ask you this before we look at the
    47        detail, how long have these forms been in existence?
    48        A.  In this particular format, to my knowledge, about 12,
    49        18 months, I mean, but this is just a succession of
    50        development of a form. 
    51 
    52   Q.   Have you always had something like this? 
    53        A.  Yes.
    54
    55   Q.   Did McDonald's have any input into the production of this
    56        form?
    57        A.  They did, this particular form, yes.
    58
    59   Q.   What about the earlier ones?
    60        A.  No, they were McKey forms.