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     1        your position, it is your summary in terms of your
     2        responsibilities for health and safety systems?
     3        A.  Yes, I think it is a good summary.
     4
     5   Q.   It seems like it is a fairly standard textbook or something
     6        or statutory -----
     7        A.  It seems as though someone wants to get all the T's
     8        crossed and all the I's dotted on it, yes.
     9
    10   Q.   In terms of the performance standards on page 852, do you
    11        have performance standards as seem to be referred to in
    12        that previous thing which you agreed with?  Do you have
    13        performance standards for certain aspects of safety, as far
    14        as you know?
    15        A.  Yes, but may be they are not expressed in performance
    16        standards; maybe they are operations guides or the
    17        observation check list that we do on people who are
    18        training.  I guess that would be the performance standard.
    19        It is quite a broad heading.  We do not have a document
    20        that says, I believe, that says:  "This is the performance
    21        standard for this area".  However, many other documents and
    22        guidelines that we have cover that general heading.
    23
    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  340 makes that point in part, does it not,
    25        page 852?
    26        A.  Yes.
    27
    28   MR. MORRIS:  I do not know if I have it right, I get the
    29        impression that it is necessary to set goals for analysing,
    30        for almost like statistical analysis of problems, so that
    31        you can monitor if your standards are being met.  I asked
    32        you yesterday about general statistics apart from RIDDOR
    33        reports.  Do you feel that if the company developed
    34        statistics on a wider range of accidents, that would be
    35        helpful to you in setting standards and monitoring the
    36        situation?
    37        A.  I think that is one approach with the, sort of, more or
    38        the less significant accidents, but I think the system that
    39        we probably have in place now is more effective.  Although
    40        we do not collate all the accidents that in the blue
    41        accident book nationally within the restaurants, these are
    42        examined and we now have health and safety circles within
    43        restaurants which comprise the crew members and managers,
    44        and they discuss those aspects.  And also the regional
    45        health and safety officers, you know, collate that
    46        information through a network of appointed supervisors.
    47
    48        So, the area that you were referring to yesterday, although
    49        we do not gather that information in en masse and look out
    50        and see how many cut fingers and bruised knees we have 
    51        within our restaurants -- because a lot of these accidents 
    52        are site specific.  It may well be that in one restaurant a 
    53        person cuts their finger on the same piece of equipment.
    54        It would get lost in the national figures, so these are
    55        much better analysed on a local level.
    56
    57   Q.   If we move on to page 856, if you read 4.4?
    58        A.  I have read 4.4.
    59
    60   Q.   Do you actually have health and safety, specific health and

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