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     1        outside?
     2        A.  There are no -- there are two quite different things.
     3        All the contract farms are Freedom Food approved.  So, as
     4        the pigs cycle round, we can actually put at any time any
     5        of our Freedom Food weaners into any of those farms, right?
     6          But there can be either/or at different times because
     7        they go in batches.  There are about 12 or 13 weeks, and we
     8        can have, say, a Freedom Food batch go to a farm and the
     9        next batch will be a commercial batch that go to a farm.
    10
    11   Q.   What you mean, if they are kept under Freedom Food
    12        conditions on those farms then they will be Freedom Food
    13        approved ---
    14        A.  Yes.
    15
    16   Q.   -- is that right?  Ones which are not kept on farms under
    17        Freedom Food conditions would not be?
    18        A.  Irrespective of if they are Freedom Food pigs or
    19        commercial pigs, all the finishing units are to the Freedom
    20        Food's approved standard.
    21
    22   MS. STEEL:  You mean each farm would have facilities that would
    23        be approved under the Freedom Food system -----
    24        A.  They are approved.
    25
    26   Q.   Yes, but the indoor part would not be, would it?
    27        A.  Not our own indoor pigs -- our indoor sows are not.
    28
    29   Q.   No, all the indoor parts of the other farms that you
    30        contract out to?
    31        A.  They are all Freedom Food approved.
    32
    33   Q.   If they raise the pigs indoors, though, they would not be
    34        Freedom?
    35        A.  They do not raise the pigs indoors.  They are the
    36        contract farmers.  We supply the weaners to them.
    37        I explained when I was here previously.  We supply the
    38        weaner pigs, to them and they finish the pigs in those
    39        farms, which are contract farmers, and all of those farms
    40        are Freedom Food approved.  That is quite simple.
    41
    42   Q.   But the meat that was produced on those farms would not
    43        automatically be Freedom Food approved?
    44        A.  No, they can be either/or.
    45
    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The farms are Freedom Food approved so that
    47        if you put them through the Freedom Food system on that
    48        farm, rather than the commercial system, if I can call it
    49        that, on that farm, they will be Freedom Food pork?
    50        A.  Correct. 
    51 
    52   Q.   Or whatever? 
    53        A.  Yes.
    54
    55   MS. STEEL:  On top of the 100,000 pigs, you buy pigs from
    56        elsewhere at markets and things like that?
    57        A.  No, we do not buy one pig at market.
    58
    59   Q.   You do buy other pigs from elsewhere, though, from
    60        slaughtering?