Day 096 - 03 Mar 95 - Page 07
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2 Q. The reason they are not finished outside, is it not, is
3 because they would be too kept too close together for the
4 ground to be able to sustain them?
5 A. No. The sunburn problem is the main problem. It is a
6 very serious problem with pigs outside.
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8 Q. Could I clarify something? You said the company owns
9 roughly 100,000 pigs?
10 A. Yes.
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12 Q. Then you said that you keep 6,300 sows ---
13 A. That is correct.
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15 Q. -- on your farms?
16 A. That is correct. We keep the 6,300 sows on our farms.
17 The 100,000 pigs are not all on our farms.
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19 Q. They are not all on your farms?
20 A. No.
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22 Q. No, how many are on your farms?
23 A. About 40,000.
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25 Q. So the other 50, 55,000 are on the system where you supply
26 the pigs and the other farms supply the labour, etc.?
27 A. That is correct. We call it "a contract system".
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29 Q. Are all those other places recognised by the Freedom Food
30 or under the Freedom Food system?
31 A. Yes, all of our finishing units are.
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33 Q. Finishing units?
34 A. That is we what we refer to the outside -- no, sorry,
35 not outside -- on our contract farms we call them
36 "finishing units" as well because that is what they do and
37 they are all Freedom Food approved.
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39 Q. The outdoor ones?
40 A. No, no, the contract farmers are, where we send the
41 remaining pigs that we do not have on our farms, the 60,000
42 pigs.
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44 Q. But your indoor ones are not Freedom Foods?
45 A. No.
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47 Q. And neither would the contract farmers be either then?
48 A. Yes, they are.
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50 Q. The indoor ones?
51 A. They are all Freedom Food approved, so if we need to
52 send Freedom Food pigs from our outdoor units, they can go
53 on to -----
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55 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What is being put to you, I think, is that
56 not all the 50 to 60,000, whatever it is which were on
57 other -- did the 100,000 include breeding sows or not?
58 A. Yes.
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60 Q. Not all the other 53 or 54,000 on the contract farms are
