Day 128 - 24 May 95 - Page 02
1 Wednesday, 24th May 1995.
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3 MS. STEEL: Before we start, I want to make an objection that a
4 large part of the evidence of Mrs. Barnes yesterday was not
5 in her statement; the first one is only two and a half
6 pages long and the second one is just about Mr. Hopkins.
7 There were a huge number of things that she discussed, gave
8 evidence about, that were not referred to in her statement
9 at all. For example, safety circles, the publications such
10 as ---
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12 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Keep your voice up, please.
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14 MS. STEEL: -- publications such as High Levels magazine, the
15 Crew News, and things like that. I would also like to say
16 that if the Plaintiffs are intending to rely on health and
17 safety information in High Levels and the Crew News
18 magazine, and other documents that were mentioned
19 yesterday, they ought to disclose copies of those
20 documents. Also, they ought to disclose a copy of
21 Successful Health and Safety Management that has been
22 referred to in a number of cases by Mrs. Barnes. So far as
23 I am aware, we do not have a copy.
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25 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. What I would like you to do is go on
26 with your cross-examination. If there is a part of
27 Mrs. Barnes' evidence which you say you were taken unaware
28 of because it was not in her statement, or was not
29 disclosed to you by virtue of being in a document which was
30 disclosed, then draw my attention to that when we come to
31 it.
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33 One of the difficulties, or a potential difficulty -- it
34 may not be a difficulty -- is that witnesses on both sides
35 have, in their evidence, in many cases, gone beyond what
36 was in their statement. If that was happening on one side
37 but not the other, I might be moved to correct it, but
38 since it has happened both in respect of witnesses called
39 by Mr. Rampton and in respect of witnesses called by
40 yourself and Mr. Morris, then even-handedness, it seems to
41 me, is called for, for me not to stop or object to one
42 party doing it, because if I am going to indulge the
43 parties on one side, I must indulge the parties the other.
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45 Anyway, carry on with your cross-examination now.
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47 MRS. JILL BARNES, recalled.
48 Cross-examined by MS. STEEL
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50 Q. You started at McDonald's as a Trainee Manager?
51 A. I did, yes.
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53 Q. Can you just say what that would involve?
54 A. Well, my initial term at McDonald's was spent in crew
55 uniform. The first three to four months was spent working
56 on the stations and learning the procedures, and at the
57 same time learning two of the management systems as well.
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59 Q. So you spent part of your time on the crew stations and
60 part of your time learning the management system?