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1 MR. RAMPTON: Those are government documents. The document
2 which, my Lord, I understand no longer still exists is the
3 Survey of Catering Wages which is the last -----
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5 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Which is the year of publication?
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7 MR. RAMPTON: It is published in 1987 and at the beginning your
8 Lordship will see it tells you the date when each part
9 became available.
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11 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, but I am surprised to hear, though it
12 may be right, that a 1987 survey actually gives the figures
13 at April of that year. It may well be right because I can
14 remember, for instance, when my practice involved looking
15 at those almost every week, that one could often get, sort
16 of, A and B at one time and then had to wait several months
17 before C, D and E came out and things of that kind.
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19 MR. RAMPTON: Your Lordship is probably right. I have not read
20 it.
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22 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Could I just have a look because I am fairly
23 familiar with it?
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25 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, there are only two parts there which are the
26 only two parts, I think, that McDonald's have used, so far
27 as I am aware. (Handed).
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29 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That is fair enough. It says quite clearly
30 -- I will show them to Ms. Steel and Mr. Morris -- April
31 1987 and the dates of publication, which rather does
32 confirm my recollection, they got around to D in November
33 1987 and they got round to E in December 1987, so they
34 obviously came out through the year after April 1987.
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36 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, there was one other thing Mr. Morris made
37 an enquiry about and which Ms. Mead can also deal with, as
38 to why it is in the table of reasons for termination --
39 I forget what the number is -- there were only some 23,000
40 answers given -- it was D -- the total was only 23,376.
41 Ms. Mead can deal with that too.
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43 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Do you know the answer to that?
44 A. I do, yes, and you were quite right, it does represent
45 three quarters of the year. It represents the period from
46 April to the end of December 1992. Because of the way the
47 payroll works, the payroll year begins from April, so it
48 covers those three quarters.
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50 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Could I have one of the New Earnings Surveys
51 back, please? Any one will do. If I might suggest, what
52 I suggest you do is cross-examine Ms. Mead about anything
53 where you think she can help one way or the other from her
54 position as an officer of the Second Plaintiff or from her
55 experience of working for the Second Plaintiff in various
56 positions.
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58 I will not stop you, if you want her to look at figures to
59 which she cannot speak from her personal knowledge which
60 have come from various sources, be it surveys or New
