Day 148 - 05 Jul 95 - Page 16


     
     1        had, there may be sections in it which are not only
     2        irrelevant (about which I mind not very much at all except
     3        it will waste time) but which may be commercially
     4        sensitive.  That is why I would like the chance to review
     5        it.
     6
     7        I have listened carefully to what Ms. Steel says and I do
     8        think there is some force in some of the things she has
     9        said.  I do not know whether she is right, but they sound
    10        convincing to me, and I would like the opportunity to go
    11        through it again, see whether in the light of the evidence
    12        which has been given we ought to be giving more.  I dare
    13        say we ought now, but I would exclude from the revised
    14        discovery anything which is both irrelevant and
    15        commercially sensitive.
    16
    17   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What I would invite you to do -- I say "you",
    18        someone to do -- is think about this again.  If there is
    19        any objection to disclosing any part of it, to be prepared
    20        to tell me why that should be so.
    21
    22   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, certainly.  There are bound to be things
    23        about, for example, custody and safety which I would not
    24        disclose anyway.
    25
    26   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You volunteered that the matter will be
    27        reconsidered.
    28
    29   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes, I think it should be.
    30
    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What I am really saying is when it is
    32        reconsidered and you come with an answer -- you have
    33        already grappled with it obviously -----
    34
    35   MR. RAMPTON:  It was a long time ago.
    36
    37   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is one thing to say it is irrelevant.
    38        About that I might say, well, I think it is in the
    39        interests of everyone that even though you say it is
    40        irrelevant it be disclosed.  Then we can see what is
    41        relevant or not, painting, admittedly, with a broad brush
    42        (which I know is a phrase I am rather fond of).  If you are
    43        saying, well, it is not only relative but it is
    44        commercially sensitive, then be prepared, without obviously
    45        going into any detail, to say why that should be so.
    46
    47   MR. RAMPTON:  I will indicate the area or the reasons without
    48        going to any detail but, my Lord, take customer safety as
    49        an example, I honestly cannot remember, but there are bound
    50        to be sections in the Operations and Training manual about 
    51        customer safety.  For all that the Defendants might love to 
    52        see it, I would not contemplate disclosing that document. 
    53
    54   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No.  What I suggest is we leave it there
    55        because you are going to reconsider the matter.
    56
    57   MR. RAMPTON:  I am going to -- perhaps I said that too soon.
    58
    59   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Although the Court of Appeal has said
    60        recently that disclosing parts of documents is all right in

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