Day 150 - 07 Jul 95 - Page 09


     
     1   Q.   It may seem a very silly question to you, but why did you
     2        care about the crew?
     3        A.  Because it would be impossible to operate any
     4        restaurant without having people who want to work for you,
     5        want to do a very good job and, to be honest, basic human
     6        nature that I have got is that I perceive that people want
     7        to do the best job they can.
     8
     9   Q.   We have heard something about turnover in stores -- I do
    10        not want to deal with that immediately now -- we have heard
    11        something in the case about the turnover in McDonald's
    12        stores.  Obviously -- this, I would have said, is
    13        uncontroversial on all sides -- there is turnover of staff?
    14        A.  Yes.
    15
    16   Q.   People come and they go?
    17        A.  Yes.
    18
    19   Q.   What have you found, not necessarily at Leicester but
    20        generally where you have been in the managerial position,
    21        to be the effect of turnover on your relationships with the
    22        crew?  By that I mean it might be said that as people come
    23        and go, you do not really develop any relationship with
    24        them over a long period, and so it might be said, well,
    25        they are just faces to you, they are just names, they are
    26        just numbers?
    27        A.  That is my point previously, was that in order to run
    28        any successful business, in this case we are talking,
    29        I guess, about a McDonald's restaurant, but the idea of
    30        people having pride to work in the restaurants and, to be
    31        honest, my personal pride in running a restaurant where
    32        people want to work in and they are not just turning over.
    33        If I run a restaurant with bad reputation for, not looking
    34        after people, that is not in anyone's interests.
    35
    36   Q.   The interaction with the crew, did that also involve some
    37        socialising with them?
    38        A.  Absolutely.  We would -- or I would, as a Restaurant
    39        Manager, organise trips up to, I think we went to Alton
    40        Towers, Christmas events, so that just as a bit of a "thank
    41        you" as well for people's work and enthusiasm as well as
    42        the Managers.
    43
    44   Q.   We talked a little about the multi-racial aspects of
    45        Leicester.  Were there any particular problems caused by
    46        that?  Did you have any problems that you would say were
    47        particularly related to that?
    48        A.  In running the restaurant?
    49
    50   Q.   Yes, in running the restaurant. 
    51        A.  None that spring to mind that make Leicester stand out 
    52        any different from the other restaurants that I have worked 
    53        in.
    54
    55   Q.   So how long did you stay -- you may have said this -- as
    56        Store Manager of Leicester?
    57        A.  I think it was about 14 months.  March 86, I got
    58        promoted to Supervisor.
    59
    60   Q.   Was that Area Supervisor?

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