Day 150 - 07 Jul 95 - Page 19


     
     1   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  They are allowed to do that, were they?
     2        There is no reason why they should not look in their file
     3        if it was given to them?
     4        A.  No.  We ask them, in fact, to bring it down, to be
     5        honest.
     6
     7   Q.   Sorry?
     8        A.  We ask them to bring it down themselves.  So there was
     9        no, sort of, sending it -- we would send it internally; we
    10        ask them to bring it down.
    11
    12   MR. ATKINSON:  How long has that arrangement been in operation,
    13        by that I mean that people on return are paid their
    14        previous rate?  One thing there, if the rate has gone up in
    15        the meantime, what happens then?  Do they start on the old
    16        rate?
    17        A.  Well, assuming that the new rate is higher than the
    18        rate at which they were paid when they were going out, then
    19        they would get the uplifting in pay.  So we would not, in
    20        effect, take the opportunity to pay them less than the
    21        starting rate.  Quite frankly, they would not want to come
    22        and work for me if that was the case anyway.  But if the
    23        pay rate has gone up from the Company side of it, then that
    24        would be reflected in their starting rate.
    25
    26   Q.   So if they had been given, say, a 20p an hour increase
    27        above the starting rate when they were at their original
    28        store, they come back to the store, in the meantime the
    29        basic starting rate has gone up ---
    30        A.  Right.
    31
    32   Q.   -- then what is the position then?  What do they get then?
    33        A.  Then we can maintain that 20p ceiling, variance, if you
    34        like, when they start again.
    35
    36   Q.   I was going to ask you that question and I got
    37        sidetracked.  How long, to your knowledge, has this
    38        particular system been in operation?
    39        A.  Since I joined McDonald's.  I was doing the practice
    40        myself as a Restaurant Manager and I have not known it to
    41        stop since then.
    42
    43   Q.   One question which might occur to people:  Why on earth do
    44        you do this because would it not be cheaper to treat them
    45        as though they had started afresh and ignore any previous
    46        amount of money they were receiving?
    47        A.  Well, it would have been cheaper, but the idea is I do
    48        not think any self-effacing individual is going to come
    49        back for less than the outgoing rate.  At the end of the
    50        day, as a Restaurant Manager, in fact, in all positions 
    51        I have to work with these people and I need to be able to 
    52        look them in the eye and not feel that I have "one up on 
    53        them", so to speak.  So, having known the individuals very
    54        well as a Restaurant Manager -- to be honest, if they do me
    55        the honour of coming back to work because they think it is
    56        a good place to work, and I know in Leicester at the time
    57        there were plenty of opportunities to find out of term time
    58        work, then I take that personal pride quite deeply and
    59        would be quite willing to re-employ them back on the rate.
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