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     1        established 100 crew, probably about 30 per cent of them
     2        were full-time.
     3
     4   Q.   You will have noticed, I expect, Mr. Giardina, that in his
     5        witness statement Mr. Magee -- my Lord, this is pages 12
     6        and 13 of his statement -- makes quite a meal of what he
     7        proposes was the ethnic breakdown of the crew in his time.
     8        Did you notice that?
     9        A.  I did, yes.
    10
    11   Q.   Is that something which you ever concerned yourself with?
    12        A.  Not really, no.
    13
    14   Q.   Is the local area, I do not know what we call it, Holloway
    15        perhaps?
    16        A.  Yes.
    17
    18   Q.   Is that a mixed area?
    19        A.  Very mixed, yes.
    20
    MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I meant to ask, you started when you were 16
    22        in Enfield.  Is that the area you came from?
    23        A.  Yes, I actually live in Enfield.
    24
    25   Q.   Were you born in North East London?
    26        A.  I was born in Hertford and then my parents moved over
    27        to Enfield in 1972.
    28
    29   Q.   So you were really brought up in North East London; it is
    30        what you call your home area anyway?
    31        A.  Yes.
    32
    33   MR. RAMPTON:  Were your parents born in this country?
    34        A.  No.  They both were born in Sicily and emigrated over
    35        here in the early 60s.
    36
    37   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Perhaps I should just call it North London.
    38
    39   MR. RAMPTON:  Your Lordship's geography of that part of the
    40        metropolis is better than mine.
    41
    42        (To the witness):   What about the under 18s, which you say
    43        were never more than 10 per cent -- what time did the
    44        restaurant close?
    45        A.  It closed at 11 p.m. every day.
    46
    47   Q.   Roughly speaking, what proportion of the under 18s were
    48        females, can you remember?
    49        A.  No, I cannot remember.
    50 
    51   Q.   Were there very few females or were there quite a lot, it 
    52        varied, I suppose? 
    53        A.  Maybe three, four, maximum.
    54
    55   Q.   Did any of the regular crew members -- you say you closed
    56        at 11.00, would there have been days when you trickled over
    57        to 11.10, 11.15, that kind of thing?
    58        A.  Yes, sometimes you might get a little pub rush at the
    59        end of it and we would stay open another five, 10 minutes
    60        maximum.