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     1        statements, and there are two of them but particularly the
     2        second statement, should stand as the evidence you give in
     3        answer to the allegations made by Mr. Magee in so far as
     4        I do not ask you about them specifically?
     5        A.  I would prefer if we went over it to be honest with
     6        you.
     7
     8   Q.   Mr. Giardina, there may be some things that Mr. Magee has
     9        said -----
    10
    11   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It may be that Mr. Giardina -- I wonder, in
    12        case there may be leading questions, if I might just -----
    13
    14   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, certainly.
    15
    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I have two statements in front of me and
    17        Ms. Steel and Mr. Morris have them as well.  One was signed
    18        by you and is dated 14th June 1993; the second one is
    19        signed by you and dated 4th July 1995.
    20        A.  Yes.
    21
    22   Q.   It is fairly recent.  The second one particularly deals
    23        with specific matters which appear in Mr. Magee's statement
    24        which we all have a copy of as well.  What Mr. Rampton is
    25        asking you -- let me ask you, first of all, are the
    26        contents of those statements true?
    27        A.  Yes, they are.
    28
    29   Q.   Do you have any reservation about us taking them to be your
    30        evidence, subject to any questions you are asked by
    31        Mr. Rampton, Ms. Steel or Mr. Morris, so far as Mr. Magee's
    32        allegations are concerned?
    33        A.  No, that is fine.
    34
    35   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, that fits the bill because there are only
    36        a few things I shall not mention specifically.  I will not
    37        say why I will not, but it may be obvious when one sees
    38        what the omissions are.  For example, I will not ask Mr.
    39        Giardina about a flood in the back room.
    40        (To the witness):  Can I ask you about your food policy for
    41        crew when you were the Manager at Seven Sisters during
    42        their breaks?
    43        A.  Basically, it was any sandwich, any fries, any drinks,
    44        any desserts.
    45
    46   Q.   Were they allowed to go out?  Suppose they were doing an
    47        8-hour shift, they had to have a 45 minute break, did they
    48        not?
    49        A.  That is correct.
    50 
    51   Q.   Were there pubs, restaurants and cafes in that area of 
    52        London? 
    53        A.  Yes.
    54
    55   Q.   Sandwich shops?
    56        A.  Yes.
    57
    58   Q.   Were they permitted to go out and have their break outside
    59        if they wanted?
    60        A.  Yes, obviously as long as they let us know they were

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