Day 156 - 17 Jul 95 - Page 03


     
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     2   Q.   -- as long as their clock card was not filled in?
     3        A.  What do you mean their "clock card"?
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     5   Q.   What I am saying is people could have worked passed their
     6        legal time, if that had not be been recorded so that you
     7        could have seen it?
     8        A.  But ninety-nine times out of 100 people, it was in
     9        their own interests to clock in and out.
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    11   Q.   Just so that they could clock out at 9.45 or 10 o'clock and
    12        carry on working and some other means could be found for
    13        paying that person?
    14        A.  That is obviously a way around it.
    15
    16   Q.   All I am saying is that you were only there for 35 hours a
    17        week, so you would not personally know at the actual time
    18        everybody finished ---
    19        A.  No.
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    21   Q.   -- in reality?
    22        A.  No, but also you can look at it the other way, that the
    23        management team that I built up and created, part of their
    24        responsibilities was to enforce my policies as well.
    25
    26   Q.   The ethnic mix that Mr. Magee had quoted in his statement
    27         -- do you want to go to his statement?  I do not know
    28        which file it is in.
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    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is pale blue volume II in section B which
    31        is towards the back.  It is divider 3 at the bottom of page
    32        12.
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    34   MR. MORRIS:  At the bottom of page 12 Mr. Magee says about
    35        regarding ethnic mix in the store, about 15 per cent
    36        Chinese, 15 per cent Mauritian, 30 per cent Greek origin,
    37        15 per cent white and 25 per cent blacks, as he puts it.
    38        I know you have already said that you employed people,
    39        whoever was willing -- the words used -- and able to work
    40        for you, but would that roughly represent kind of an
    41        accurate picture?
    42        A.  I could not really tell you.
    43
    44   Q.   Is there anything that sticks out in your mind as being
    45        inaccurate about it?
    46        A.  No, it does not appear to be.
    47
    48   Q.   You can put that to one side for the moment.  In your own
    49        statement -- do you have that?  Yellow X.
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    51   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If you go to the divider 18 in that? 
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    53   MR. MORRIS:  If you look at page 10 of your supplementary
    54        statement, at the bottom of page 10, you say that you deny
    55        many employees worked in excess of 39 hours; crew were not
    56        scheduled to work more than 39 hours a week.  When you say:
    57         "crew were not scheduled to work more than 39 hours a
    58        week", was that a rule, you would not schedule anyone to
    59        work more than 39 hours a week?
    60        A.  Well, it was a general policy that I had used for so

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