Day 156 - 17 Jul 95 - Page 14

     
     1        obviously if we can have one break rather than two, it is
     2        better, so what I suggest is we have 10 minutes now.
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     4   MS. STEEL:  I was going to ask for longer than that.
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     6   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Right.  You tell me how long?
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     8   MS. STEEL:  20 minutes.
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    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I will come back at ten two.  I do not want
    11        to quibble about a minute here or there.  You have nearly
    12        20 minutes then and you ought to be able to finish it
    13        then.  Then we will be absolutely confident, even with any
    14        re-examination, that we will have a very early day and you
    15        can concentrate on the rest of your preparation for
    16        tomorrow.  If you do genuinely want more, tell Mr. Riley
    17        and he will telephone.
    18
    19                       (Short Adjournment)
    20
    MS. STEEL:   Just one thing about the delivery team:  Were the
    22        delivery team also solely and exclusively responsible for
    23        bringing boxes out when they actually needed to be used or
    24        was that just done by any crew?
    25        A.  Yes, that was done basically by a person who we would
    26        put in a back room or anyone that was free.
    27
    28   Q.   You mentioned in your evidence-in-chief about the training
    29        plan and new crew would be accompanied by someone from the
    30        training squad for two to three days, when they would have
    31        the observation check list carried out.  Then you went on
    32        to say:  "If they failed, they would then be retrained or
    33        corrective coaching would take place until they did pass".
    34          So, once they had taken the OCLs they got on with the job
    35        themselves and, obviously, there would be someone on their
    36        travel path and things like that, checking from time to
    37        time but, basically, they would just get on the with job?
    38        A.  Yes, but as I have mentioned before, it is basically
    39        once you have had two of these check lists done by two
    40        different Managers then, yes, we would -- and they both
         obviously passed, then they would basically be left to get
    42        on with the job.
    43
    44   Q.   Those two that were done, were they both done on the same
    45        day or were they -----
    46        A.  No, it could be, you know, one on Monday, one on
    47        Tuesday or one on Monday and one on the following Friday.
    48
    49   Q.   Within a fairly short space of time?
    50        A.  That is correct, yes. 
    51 
    52   Q.   The person on the training squad accompanying them, you 
    53        said that was for two to three days, so that was up to the
    54        first OCL?
    55        A.  Yes, but also the way the training programme was
    56        designed, that you start off with the easiest tasks and
    57        move on to the complicated tasks and that would be,
    58        I suppose, six months.  So, initially, they would have the
    59        observation check list done on them.  If they passed that
    60        and you left them on an area for two to three days on their