Day 156 - 17 Jul 95 - Page 15
1 own, then they would receive another check list, you know,
2 whenever. If we did not feel that they were competent
3 enough to actually take it over, No. 1, they would not pass
4 the OCL and, No. 2, we would not put them on there anyway.
5
6 Q. So the second one is for the purposes of confirming the
7 first one, and it is not until after the second one that
8 they move on to doing something?
9 A. That is correct. It is basically two Managers doing
10 OCLs is obviously better than just one doing them all the
11 time.
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13 Q. But they would still also continue doing the first job that
14 they had been trained do so they did not forget that and so
15 ---
16 A. Yes.
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18 Q. -- particularly during busy periods they would be on the
19 one that they knew how to work?
20 A. Yes, where they were strongest at, yes.
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22 Q. I just wanted to go back to the unions and the locker room
23 business. I actually asked you, I said it was
24 Mrs. Brinley-Codd asking you about the incident of removal
25 of leaflets from Mr. Magee's locker that reminded you of
26 the time when you saw the leaflets on the table. You said,
27 no, that specific incident did not remind you. What was it
28 that was said that reminded you of the incident of the
29 leaflets, union leaflets, on the table?
30 A. It was actually that when Patty actually approached
31 me. That is what actually reminded me of it, because
32 I stated before that, you know, it was just totally
33 irrelevant to me. I had completely forgotten about it. It
34 was of no interest to me as well, and after X amount of
35 years it was not something to think about.
36
37 Q. What was it, just a general question on unions or was it a
38 specific incident that Mrs. Brinley-Codd mentioned that
39 triggered your memory on this?
40 A. I cannot remember if it was either; I just remember
41 being asked the question and then it rang a bell in my head
42 and I remembered.
43
44 Q. But you say it definitely was not mention of the locker
45 incident that reminded you?
46 A. Sorry, I do not understand what you mean.
47
48 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Might it have been some mention of whether
49 there had been any incident relating to a locker and,
50 perhaps, union literature which prompted you to remember
51 the matter of union literature on the table?
52 A. It was purely when Patty mentioned to me that this
53 allegedly happened.
54
55 Q. What, the locker business?
56 A. No, the leaflets on the table. The locker business,
57 I just do not know anything about it.
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59 MS. STEEL: Did she say where the information about leaflets on
60 the table had come from?
