Day 162 - 25 Jul 95 - Page 10

     
     1        a handle, you lift up the toaster and you can remove the
     2        buns, the middle and the bottom one, with the spatula
     3        again.
     4
     5   Q.   But are they like in a slot?  You cannot lift up the top of
     6        them and come from above to get them?
     7        A.  No, you do not have to.  It is actually on the bottom
     8        side of it.
     9
    10   Q.   Like a normal toaster, but on its side?
    11        A.  That is right.
    12
    13   Q.   So if they got stuck, you would not be able to lift them up
    14        to get them out; and, if the spatula could not work, you
    15        would have to put your fingers in to try and get them out?
    16        A.  No.  If you start again, you can use the spatula to
    17        bring them down and remove them out.  If they are stuck on
    18        the top layer, you just used to use a spatula to remove
    19        them.
    20
    Q.   But the lower layer?
    22        A.  Again, you can do the same thing.  There is a gap in
    23        between.
    24
    25   Q.   What is the position on the regular bun toaster?
    26        A.  It is the same.
    27
    28   Q.   The same?
    29        A.  The same; it is just, instead of two layers, one layer.
    30
    31   Q.   So you are not aware of any complaints by the crew of ever
    32        getting burned when they were using the toasters?
    33        A.  Using the toasters?
    34
    35   Q.   Yes.  Sorry, you do say -----
    36
    37   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You did say, yes, you could accidentally get
    38        burned if you touched a hot surface?
    39        A.  That is correct.
    40
    Q.   But what you are saying is that you do not have to go and
    42        burn yourself by having to use your fingers to pick up the
    43        buns?
    44        A.  That is correct.  You can use a spatula instead of your
    45        hands.
    46
    47   MS. STEEL:   How many spatulas were there?
    48        A.  Each grill has got two spatulas.
    49
    50   Q.   So the minor burns that you were aware of, they were not 
    51        from crew members sticking their fingers in to try and get 
    52        the buns out when they were stuck? 
    53        A.  No.
    54
    55   Q.   You are not aware of anyone getting burned like that?
    56        A.  Not at all.
    57
    58   Q.   Do you know how they got the burns when they were working
    59        the bun toaster?
    60        A.  The bun toaster?  As I said yesterday, it could be the